 Oh, why do I have to scream every time I go live? Ah, you said it again. I just, you know, I think you need to get used to people seeing you for who you are. No, no, it doesn't go up. Disgusting creature. Oh man. Ah, that's bad. What do you mean? It's a truth. It is the truth but come on. Daitis. We are live and in what's a what's the live and Diving, I don't know any of where the rimes a lot of wars coming to PC That is maybe then you'll complete it for me. Hmm already Actually, it's actually more likely that I will it's on PC. Yeah, it's already listed on steam as well Right, but presumably not to purchase yet, right? No wish list over the matter. Yeah. Yeah Good stuff feels weird man as soon as we get a blood-borne. That's just Up to you. Oh Yeah, I just switched over to the store. I had Vice City pulled up Yeah, Vice City is no longer listed on steam now They have delisted all of the old Grand Theft Auto games clearly. What's the deal with that? They're doing a remaster. So if they get rid of the old version, you can't get them Oh, they do that with Dark Souls. Yeah, see your only option is to get the new one for that I Don't see why that would be My assumption they don't want you to buy the old version, but again if the new version is great Like surely it shouldn't be a problem Yeah, but it's just that the new version will be sold with like a heavy price markup So they don't want people like because those games were like a couple of like a couple of quid Yeah, because they were old so they're going to want everyone to pay, you know a full full game full price For essentially what's going to be a re-skin. I mean it well Yeah, I'm curious to see what they do and how substantial the changes are Yeah, we'll probably have an online component and it'll be full of shitty trash and then they'll milk that shit for the next five, six, seven, eight, nine years Some that I think that we are I'm not sure if it's been overlooked or not, but the soundtrack probably not gonna be as good I've been very set in, or very set in was my favorite GTA by far. I love my city. Yeah San Andreas are usually default so it was my favorite, but Vice City would be like the one right after The soundtrack was like really formative as well in terms of just musical tastes and stuff And it's not gonna be as good. It won't it's not gonna be as good because it's gonna cost too much money to get all of the songs Yeah, not like rockstar doesn't have money though, but hey Hopefully they re-release GTA 5 what I hope for Seven Um, anyway, welcome to EFAT 157. Yeah, there you go. I remembered Yeah, and since it is Halloween We we got us a spooky movie technically speaking, you know, because sometimes I forget the zombie movies are just horror So I just enjoy them so much that I'm not even thinking about it. Yeah, like yes It's just a straight-up scary movie and what a wonderful guest to have for it Welcome, Count Dracula. Welcome back actually Hello. It's been a while. Well, not really actually because I spoke to you not long ago on drinkers channel Yeah And funnily enough this film came up Yes, yes, it does have to do with me seeing it and then being like, oh, I should show my friends Actually, it's pretty good. Um, I Figure the Cuz I know people gonna want us to talk about the recent Batwoman news We'll do that once when Stankula is gone. Don't worry. I feel like he's gonna have no fucking clue what we're talking about So we'll probably just jump right eggs. You don't have all the time in the world unfortunately, but Yeah, at one point I'm gonna need like run away to like catch like the last train home Oh, okay. Yeah, so we'll we'll try and just get to talking about it so you can get all your perspectives and shit out with it. So I Don't know. I guess I should mention like this has been recommended to me like a million times I just didn't watch it for no particular reason. I was like, I'll get around to it. I'm pretty sure it was Fringes just talking to you. I was like I have three. I think they were all career movies I was like, I'm gonna watch the ball because they should and The results were great good and bad And this one's not bad. Yeah, this is the one that I thought was great So, oh, yeah, I was like you guys you'll go see it But I mean, you know, we could just quickly be like what was Initial sort of short review from from from you people's well, I guess we could start with dank They're just go from left to right Oh, okay training Busan actually Got me interested in like Korean movies because I had people like telling me for ages I should watch this like I always liked old boy But old boy the only reason I was interested in that was because it was one that got quite popular in the West for how good it was Never mind the American remake. That was absolute dog shit But I watched the old boy and I liked old boy for years and people says oh You need to try training Busan because there was a lot of like hype around it when it came out And I watched it and I would go as far as to say that it is the best zombie movie that I've ever seen Hands down. Yeah, it's like I've seen a lot of zombie movies like 28 days later and stuff like that would be probably be a close second But a train to Busan. I just think it's absolutely phenomenal. I think it's brilliant Probably you for any what's just initial thoughts and shenanigans. Oh, I Remember just being really impressed when I watched it It's a really great story and it feels like they tapped they I When it was over, I wasn't there thinking I you know like you didn't really take full advantage of this concept You didn't really fully explore these characters and try to uh eat something out. You didn't fully execute on the theme It's like a really great well-rounded story Yeah, that's that's my notes, please write more Please make more things. Um, yeah, it's just the same the same thing for me When I was watching I was just picking up lots of stuff where I was just like man, this is like this is like my jam this is like what I want stories to be doing and Then I started getting impressed with all kinds of different things in terms of because we'll probably talk about it a bit more But just our zombies on a train But then they're like we did this and this and this and we went in and out of it with different way And like all the ways that they do it's like man I don't even know that there's anything left for them to do with a train. They've kind of nailed it Because you'd think Surely, they'll just be trapped in like a cart, right? And that's gonna be about it And it's like they do a lot of dynamic stuff in this film considering the environment Metal what are your thoughts? It's none of your business. All right. He rags Well, I really like Really Huh, no, it's okay. You're quiet. I got I can't go first I know it's confused now You can go metal. Okay. Bye No, nothing, you know lot to add really Really good stuff they did with the whole train setting And I really like the characters. I cared about the characters, which is a big plus these days You don't get that Characters are mostly pretty shit. So Yeah, that's it. I don't have anything else to add really All righty, they go rags. Now's your time. Yeah, I really really liked train to Busan I really enjoyed that it had for a movie called train to Busan a lot of it does take place on a train however They were smart to not have us on the train for the entire movie It's been proud of gotten a little doll. They took us to different places. They gave us a break from it They got us to some new settings and new environments that they took advantage of I think all of the characters behave pretty rationally Considering what's happening around them. They don't rely on Characters acting really stupidly in order to just have a plot progress I Really liked a lot of the acting. I like the the effects of the zombies and how they move around Just generally generally very impressed with how this one turned out. I really enjoyed watching it. It was good stuff Definitely if not the top zone you I've seen definitely up there I think the issue really a lot of good ones Don't really come to mind in the first place. Yeah, there's a lot of bad zombie stuff a lot of stankers Because I was I was talking to Danke about I was like so Mike the competition gains this probably stuff that includes Shaun of the dead and he said 28 days later And then I'm already like Now what it's like? Like neither living dead daughter dead originals Yeah, I'd have to see some of the originals return of the living dead and day of the dead things like that. I just It's just like 28 weeks later was like, oh, I had a cool opening scene and that was it I'd have to watch that one again to be able to world war Z Fuck that movie that had Some Sick the zombies can smell that and then they'll just run around That was I've been on the internet smell cancer coming from a mile away I'm on the internet long enough to do that That movie man that that are that whole production like when wire mess and hits video just breaking it all down Like hey, just hope there's like a little pissed off at this Seen it was one of the re-shoots Someone a chat mentioned I am legend. That was all right. I Wonder I've said about that one though. Um, they are I'm not sure I categorize that as a zombie movie or not. It's like cuz they are Slightly more intelligent I say slightly I guess significantly more intelligent to it to be fair Because those things plan stuff. I just I want if you get to the point with zombies of planning things I just wonder if you can still call them zombies. I just wonder how I categorize it. That's not but I'm well I mean, what if you had a movie that was about like somebody who is a zombie? They're dead and they eat like brains, but they're sentient I'm fine with them behaving in somewhat intelligently. Yeah, I don't know where the the the line is where I draw I was like well once the zombies are smart You know, that's uh, oh, yeah, they're also think about they burn in sunlight as well, right? Oh Oh, oh, so they have Well, so I'm sure we talked about those four rights, but I said like I think they're closer to vampires than we will Zombies Uh, yeah, I daybreakers is one of my favorite zombie movies Really good. That almost contradicts your statement on what terms are more there No, it doesn't because they never use the word zombies in the film What about um, I saw the remake of the crazies That's a zombie movie. They didn't even listen to what I said Um So, yeah, I if you get given traits, then you go categorize this as either vampire or zombie I should be like if they've been in the sunlight It really tends to ward one of those two rather than the other But um at the same time if all the characters in that movie called them zombies, I'd be fine. We call them zombies um Vampire in the comics zombies in the zombie line was Fine. Um, yeah, I remember everyone when it came it was one of those movies It was like, um, like the hangover when it came out people wouldn't shut the fuck up about it And I saw it and I'm like this all right I tried to rewatch it. I think like two years ago. I Someone didn't get into it. I don't know if it was like in a move that day or something But I don't know. I just couldn't get through it. I stopped halfway through something I don't know. Maybe it's one of those things where like the if the comedy just doesn't You then You know, I can yeah, that's like the main thing with that film if you're not lost All I know is the whole lot out of it. The second one was like a bomb in a ball. I saw a cynics naturally do it I watched I watched that actually like last week And The second zombie land double tap. I just I just thought it was kind of stupid Like I get it. I own a zombie land. It's tongue-in-cheek. It's a complete take the piss type of thing But like they sort of did this whole thing where there's like, oh, there's whole new Breeds of zombies and there's a super zombie and it's called the fucking t1000 and like the guy Empties like whole clips into it and even you know, the golden button to kill a zombie is you shoot it in the head And he even shoots it in the head and it doesn't die and that's like the whole whole shit Moment and then that's that's just it like after that they die really easy as fuck Like which is why I didn't get why Why build these things up like that just to have them like die so easily like that but it didn't make fucking sense I was happy. I was happy. I was happy they brought back that little young actress back even though she got fat Even though she got Okay Yeah, hollywood usually doesn't do that like they brought the little girl back But she's all grown up now and even though she she's fat and she had teeth like a raw derelict houses Like they still got it in the movie. So that was nice. Yes, I did find a truck of twinkies after all They're in 2014, uh, there was zombie verse. I haven't seen that. That looks like a zombie verse That sounds so Tastic and they make what a damn out of cuban body parts or something. I don't know. Maybe I'm not sure if maybe that would be Yeah, that's that's a that's an interesting one there Um, oh, of course How could we forget the greatest zombie movie of all maybe the greatest film of all time? army of the dead Oh Thanks, we're going to do that to us so rude Yeah, because we're discussing zombie films and that is a zombie film. I guess you could say that It is really really bad. It might have been zombies. I don't know so We'll probably just go chronological with this movie and talk a little bit about a lot of stuff in it. Um, I figure that's the best way to do it Uh, some people when they go into this thing, they don't know what it is Um, but most people know it's just zombies on a train. That's the like the hook and So the first thing you get is just like a little little bit of nice sprinkling of uh, of a wheel building in the there's these Leaks are a commonality at least to some degree in this area and it frustrates the locals And they're like no worries. Sure. It's fine. By the way, just for clarity. We are not talking about, um We're not talking about like the vegetable We're talking about like spills and seepage There might be a few people who are very very confused Yeah, it's like, oh leeks. I mean, they're fine. I guess I don't know why they'd really annoy That much of the populace if they were just out and about I would probably I imagine that that could annoy people if you just had leaks all over the place Yeah, well that that's different. If you had leaks all over the place Sure, but if we're just talking around and you just kept tripping over on leaks Yeah, that would that if we had them to that degree sure, but that that's just kind of anything Point if you're just walking around tripping on them. That's anything cats Um, there are loads of cats around uh Benches bottles lots of benches and bottles Yeah, but like where you're tripping over them through uh So the that's the thing and our our Apparent just pov character for this scene Very sillily isn't paying full attention to the road and hit something Your average encounter on your average day you accidentally hit something while you're driving An animal and so it's like all bloodied and dead and so that that's nice and normal But the thing is It don't stay dead. Oh well, you know, it doesn't stay, uh, not moving. Let's put it around Yeah, yeah, which gives you the full on like I I wonder if this scene Is something that was ended up putting in they put it in later or it was always here because If the movie had started without this it's very normal, right guy at work He's got some some things wrong goes see his family bit of a All good relationship with the different and it's only like People look awkwardly at the like a crowd at the train station and then someone falls over Someone's get you know, I mean like that's slower build up But this scene is basically like it only takes what like two minutes to reassure the audience Like something fucking crazy is going on here and then they're like, all right now. I didn't choose the character There's been a few movies that have sort of done that like no Like movies just sort of avoid like coming in with the news headlines and shit like that Like right away and like zombies all over the place unless it's a movie set like long after the zombie Result like fucking thing first happened. But like Sean of the dead I know this sounds weird, right? But Sean of the dead actually did it very well Because they did like some subtle fucking things like you were sitting like having a conversation And there was a shit ton of ambulances and police cars going by in the background It was never focused on but it was happening in the background And it was like you were focused on the conversation But there was that little hint that something funny Is going on I like that like that it was sort of and they they did the same in train to busan But they did like lots of little subtle hints, although I suppose that A fucking zombie deal getting up After like that That was a little bit direct But I mean when it gets to the park we're like the dad and the daughter They sort of do like the same like little subtle hints Yeah, and there's still gonna be viewers who are like wait, what's what's the deal with the deer exactly like because I think you can infer pretty quickly. There's like, oh shit zombie virus But I mean there's gonna be some people who are just like, oh god, what's going on? Those pupils are all white. It's like that's spooky, but you know enough of um A bit of an actiony hook so that when you get the next 10 minutes or so of just character You'll be like, when are we gonna go back to that deer? What's going on there? Is that the virus? Oh, yeah, just keep you keep your audience in a Bit of suspense there Um, but yeah, sure one of the dad is one of the fucking best approaches They got loads of things going on in the background while you're just learning all about Sean Um, yeah So, yeah, uh, that's your little hook and you're just like, hmm, and then we get introduced to our main dude Um, and that's the thing the there's a whole set of cast names in this and this is going to be the same thing with fucking A squid game if we get to talking about that where I'm just going to be calling them by More so their position in the story rather than their their actual names because I'm really shit with pronouncing them and I can't quite remember them To go like they remember the characters very well though That's the I suppose an irony, right? It's just like, uh, I know exactly who this guy is I don't really know his name because I often Miss hear it or I can't pronounce it probably or I'm just like it's uh, sometimes it'll be three words in a row um It's just unfamiliar territory, but he is main guy to me or protagonist That is the uh the easy way um Yeah, yeah, he's doing doing some work. He um, I forget specifically is his job like he manages accounts He's a fun manager. He's a fun manager. Yeah And so he's scrolling on his little computer He's looking stressed out and we're getting lots of information about how local wildlife is getting fucking destroyed likely because of pollution and um he says uh sell related funds and um is is is person's like, whoa, that's a crazy thing to do and then um I think before Like like we can even understand fully what's happening here. It's just um, this is more so information That's going to be relevant probably later when we find out exactly what the origin of this thing is um, we immediately get into uh What to kids what do kids like these days? It's just like the movie bit like yeah That's the that's the funny thing about that is that uh, it's perfectly fine for a parent to ask that whether or not they're um You know super invested in their kids and stuff Um, but it's just that it's just a hint along with much more overt information The scene later that he he and his daughter don't have the greatest relationship. He uh Really loves it, but he spends so much time working. It's very clear. He doesn't fucking know much of anything about it um, at least about her interests anyway, and um, he's like immediately arguing with his wife or ex-wife, I guess at this point about like, oh my god, um The daughter wants to see her and she's gonna go on the train on her own if you don't take her It's just like she's crushed. She's like fucking five That's how she can do that Um, but even the daughter's like convinced if she can get on the train the mum can get her on the other side, which I'm assuming she would be stopped right because she's so young She would have to be somebody You'd be surprised Maybe I would like it. I think what was it? I think there's like certain rules I know in britain like uh, I think it's children as young as eight Uh can fly on their own Damn Damn Is it like but with the the knowledge that they meet someone Is that with the knowledge that they meet someone at the beginning and end of the flight or? I don't know. I think it's something I think it's something like that. I don't know I don't I don't exactly send many young children flying to random places. You know, I'm not epstein Right, but like I know that I know that children can just get on trains Like I like I've seen them I've seen like young kids who are about like five or six like just getting on trains and shit like that to go Like to and from school Like that that I have seen like I consider that to be extremely a responsible parent thing, but you know, I've seen it Well, yeah, um, she's almost to that point. So the dad is like, all right, fuck. I'll take you Jesus. Um After giving her a wee in 20 presumably 2016. It's like, oh my god, dude It's fucked up gotta get a the proto switch that you would have access to because he's so rich Um, exactly Yeah, the problem funnily enough because I think I mentioned this to you guys when I was watching it I thought that the the sort of angle here was gonna be that he bought her a wee when the wee you was the cool thing to have Right now, but it's just that he bought her something that someone else has already bought her. So it's just awkward No, he he already bought her. He bought it Wait, he bought her? Yeah, he bought her. He bought her the same present twice. That's how little he gave a shit Oh, damn. I actually I thought the idea was that she'd been given that as a gift from like the mum or something And he just hadn't looked into it. But yeah, okay, if he bought her the same thing She looks at him and says something like children's day last year Yeah, basically. Yeah. Yeah saying like you bought me this on children's day last year Yeah, so that's that's the thing he's Clearly not remembering details like that because he's 100 in his work basically and uh Yeah, this is what I like. It's just story telling wise. It's like Wait, I came here for the zombies tonight. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, wait Yeah, I get you they get you set up a bit with characters They give you that little deer hook at the beginning like oh spookiness is gonna happen dost you wait Or you know, we're gonna cash this check eventually and then sure enough once uh The the tizm start going down and we've already got people we care about Um And yeah, it just becomes really clear that she's continuously disappointed in him as a Not only like in his relationship with her But as we started to discover her view of him and how he relates to other people Um And even his mum like What was cool as well is that we see him putting his clothes away And it's just the classic sort of everything is perfectly set for every day So all the outfits and stuff and uh his mum is like Daughters like you need to fix the shit with your wife You have to fix the shit with your daughter and you didn't even go to the recital and he's just frustrated because you know that he's working his ass off sort of thing Um, yeah And it's got to be one of the most stressful jobs ever but it doesn't matter because it's like your family life's falling apart and um Get up particularly like I thought it was quite moving And I was only like almost what 10 minutes into the film where he's just watching the recital recording and um, yeah The daughter is doing a song and she slowly stops singing and just stays at the camera It's just like It's it's really just a lot of this is It's like carried by the acting but it's not really like complex stuff. It's just Done well. It's acted well. They spend the time To make this stuff stick. They don't try to blow past it. They set it up for later yeah um Yeah, with with that knowledge you're already just it's just someone telling you about a guy right now That's what this film is. It's just like this guy You just you know, you you you've got a problem and that is his relationship with his family and hopefully he can get it solved in the background you're like So he's gonna get attacked by zombies and that's gonna be something that happens throughout the film, isn't it? The zombie part isn't actually gonna be what this is about as they often say the heart of the film um Yeah, he needs to do better as falcon would say Oh, no, yes The legendary captain falcon. So he's uh, it's just commits to all right then We're gonna I'm gonna take her to Busan because that's like one of the most obvious things she desperately wants I can at least take care of that But as they're moving through town some weird shits going on Just um, I think they get some news reports as well as they see like a big fire Uh, like a building on fire such as Skyscraper's on fire. Yeah Um While having a chat as well and I think one of the things he tells her Because she says like how did you know that uh The song I was singing I didn't finish it and he was like even if you don't see me. I'm there And that's gonna be Relevant uh to think about Yep. Oh, yeah There's a lot of little bits like that you you just just keep them in your back pocket sort of thing because the script is Purposeful instead of just random Mm-hmm Yeah I find that with uh, just a lot of the scripts that I really love It's not um about sorting out the problem of the scene which is like we need to get them over here So have a character say go over there. All right good now. We're over here Like it's it's much more like let's think about the entire movie Yeah, exactly. Oh, it's it's the standard thing of like typically good dialogue achieves more than one thing And in this instance, it's like well, yeah, this is something that would be said at this moment But also it'll be really important later on in terms of theme and stuff like that Yes Just hit all of those beats Now um something I want to point out because I thought it was kind of amusing both me and Fringy on our first viewings of this film As they show the train everyone's boarding we get like a more sharper focus on um a woman Like a hostess helping people in and we both have the same thought. Oh, she's probably our second main character like Because uh, it's just like the we're gonna start and you see the conductor as well And I was like, oh, he's probably a main guy too. Maybe maybe not. I don't know Just uh, you never know because when you start a film like this Where you know there's going to be several characters You're wondering which ones are going to be the ones that end up surviving, you know, you grow Yeah, hostess lady pretty sure she'll be fine. You know, she's probably gonna make it real far um And yet, uh, everything's just setting up people getting on everything's pretty normal and we're already now in case Any audiences were starting to get uh, I don't know frustrated with this still just getting a couple more characters introduced And no one of them is like there's a bunch of school kids Who uh, is like a baseball team I think Yeah, that's how they all have bats and stuff and there's like the hot girl that everybody likes And she's interested in the one guy who doesn't want anything to do with it and uh That bastard And he's even the detail of he's pretending to listen to music But he's not because he just doesn't want to talk to anybody apparently that seems to be the attitude tricks And he's nervous around girls Well, I think I think he seems sort of fed up with her I don't know if it was this whole like oh, i'm playing hard to get thing because he seemed like genuinely annoyed by her But then at the end of the movie Like Nervous Nervous disinterested it didn't seem it seemed to me that he wasn't interested in it but um, he's definitely interested in her in the sense that uh Fucking shut up phone in the sense that there's there's an investment of like I like these people He's just uh There's something you can interpret about that little moment It could just be that he's like a little bit introverted, but that's going to become an interesting thought Uh when things kick off Mm-hmm. Yeah, he's just kind of like leave me alone. Hmm Uh And our our characters get on it's all it's all looking good It's kind of funny because if you know it's a zombie feel whatever it's getting on the trade You're like, oh boy, you're gonna be getting out any second now zombies are gonna get on this train but yeah, um There's a woman who awkwardly stumbles onto the train Uh And she's she's worrying about what looks to be her leg. We can't quite make it out and she just gets into the into the restroom Just when the train's leaving unfortunate and uh, I just like this little bit where um The I don't know the one of the sort of host people Just looks up the stairs and you can just see there's lots of people crowding around something Someone looks like two people fighting or something like that and you really can't make out anything else and you're just like, oh, that's weird Yeah, they're building up Yeah, that was like the little subtle hand. You don't you know something's going on, but you don't actually see what it is Yeah, and then the much more of it went with the the kids looking out the window and she sees them get tackled Like oh And yeah, the implication being that the whole uh town city whatever is getting Overrun just as this train is leaving so People on the train. They wouldn't necessarily have any idea um, but yeah, the the Lady who stumbled on she's just making all the noises and um, it's the first sort of examples We're getting of the makeup, which my god the makeup in this movie is fucking great Yeah, it is really impressive and It's not just the makeup too. There's a lot a lot of stuff comes together to make these Zombies feel Being and spooky The way that they move The way that they look the noises that are added not just from them But some of the ones in post just like is cracking and it's really uh, it's really kind of it's it's spooky Yeah, I'll try and show a couple of clips of that while we're going through for the for the people who can See and hear the screen as well because there's just so many examples that I really like but uh definitely impressive um But yeah, then we have A businessman character who's immediately like some some weirdo is in the in the toilet get him out like Which is just nice on rewatch that you realize the first thing we see that guy do is like There's a weird person get him away Don't like as well. Thank you person and um Main character's just gone to sleep while these kids walking around and she's spotted this as well And so you've got like host guy businessman And the little girl just checking out this this bathroom and for a moment We're stressed out as an audience for like jesus christ as a fucking zombie they they open it up and no, it's just a hobo man Because they tricked us using filmmaking those bastards I hate that and uh, yeah, it's just hobo guy needs just saying they're all dead over and over again. I think Yeah, it's like oh, that's uh reassuring and so yeah, um We're still sort of at that point. Just like that was almost like a fake out, but uh, what's happening with the other girl Um, and I think the business guy says, uh, if you drop out of school, you'll end up like him Yeah, the little girl's like my mom says only like bad people say that that he was like did she drop out of school? Yeah prick And yeah, there's plenty to infer from that if it's just like If you look at the actions of hobo man and businessman throughout this And that it's like you wouldn't want to end up like hobo man. It's like It just dims the heart both of those characters have uh But yeah, um, and it turns out zombie lady's already exited the restroom and she's just walking through the uh well one of the Cots and um cars rather I guess she makes it to the sides before she collapses So again, it's sort of like you can't help but think like oh man, if someone will just stab her in the brain We can save so many people right now Just do quick Uh Yes, and then Little girl ends up at a different restroom With someone who I can only refer to as chat. I think I have to be yes I think chat is the after name. Yeah chat is appropriate Yeah, and he tells it you're gonna have to use a different run because uh My girl's busy in there for for a little bit and it is funny because he's like, hey, honey How's it going in there? She just bags on the door. He's like, okay Okay, I'll let me be Sure I guess it's playing with us a little bit again because it's just like The fact that all he hears is a bang. It's like could there be a zombie in there? What could be happening? Just keeping us nice and just Just having the others going on and then yeah, and then hostess our second main character We're sure of it the spots the the girl on the floor and it's like, holy shit. I'm gonna call for help And she's going Which um, this is the benefit all zombie films get I assume you guys sort of see this as well where The first set of people to get bitten you get them for free because humans are very helpful In times like that a lot of the time they will pick someone up and be like, oh gotta get them straight up It's like you okay miss like oh gosh and um I don't think the zombies have any bonus strength in this right some stuff does that no they don't seem to Um, there's a lot of hand to hand like pushing and shoving with zombies I think they're I don't think they're particularly strong or well coordinated Or they've got they've got like major downsides as well where a They can't see in the dark like even even if even if the room is like somewhat let If it's back when the dark they can't see in it I think uh, the only buff that we can presume that they have is pretty good endurance and rage Just that rage will get them Um And yeah, we got more characters We're just observing that the there's riots breaking out and the like huge amount of police They're just everywhere, but it's unclear what's happening exactly Like hmm. Yeah, and then uh ladies dead or seemingly and hostess is like my goodness gracious We've got to get someone here right now to help But but but and there's just this this cool This is like it just feels like a zombie moment where it's they're slowly rising behind them And you can get them cracking sounds and stuff and now I just looks back I don't think it is that it was that a slow rising one or is that one of the ones where she like That so that because they do this thing like three two or three times in the movie Where a zombie is just kind of on the floor And then they lift up in this weird way And I they used wires Or if they got a legit like contortionist or someone to play those roles as the zombies do this weird standing up motion Um I kind of want to look into it and see what they did because it looks really creepy and unnatural the way that they just sort of stand up I think it's both because uh, there is A scene. I can't remember what one it's in and it's in a What's it called kingdom? That's what it's called in a Yeah, the korean Medieval korean zombies and there is a scene in that where there's like this female zombie that's like Got her neck like snapped and her arms all contorted and shit and like she's on the ground and she does this like Spinning weird spiral. She's almost like an insect. But as I was looking at it. I was like that wasn't CGI that bitch actually did that And I was like, what the fuck man? And I thought it must be a contortionist or something because that was fucking mental Yeah, that's so weird This one Cirque du Soleil shit This one looks mostly normal, but there are ones in this and I'm gonna try and show them when we get to them But the one I remember is the soldier with the best located shoulder What was I remember is They're running toward a zombie who's facing away from them And it breaks its neck backward to look at them And then it flips its body around and then it starts running at them. I remember being like, fuck in hell What is going on? Like what did you just do to yourself? It's like it's that desperate to grab people It's a really quick way to spit around uh So yeah, uh, she's they are they're a function over form Yeah And so yeah, uh, we know that she's probably gonna be in trouble And then everyone's just like hanging out and chilling out in uh in the high school's action And they just see this woman slowly walking through with another woman on her back biting her neck It is the most like what the fuck And what's great about it is the Even when she's on the floor doing it, they're still they don't know what to think until the zombie I guess completes the the bite thing and just rises up and the music kicks in as well and everyone's like, oh, fuck This is actually like terrifying Yep. Yeah And um, yeah, there's a lot of interesting sort of like What I like about this film is that all the humans react differently Several of them were frozen several of them are already screaming and then several of them want to help like Just different different sort of things will happen. But the most interesting one is um I guess if I call him introverted high school guy He's uh Immediately tries to help when one of his friends gets attacked while everyone else sort of stays still Now instant instant characterization. All right, just just add water very important Every action everyone takes an action scene is something that I find frustrating and a lot of Mainstream stuff. They don't understand that when you have people do nothing that is characterization Yes Yeah, and the the hostess Of the floor Immediately changes into a zombie the shit that she does with her body as well while just screaming the bloods is spraying Oh my god So, yeah, um, and that's just a signal that this shit spreads fast Very fast. Um, and so they I think that is one of my complaints about the movie is that it seems to be inconsistent with health I don't know about that. What reference would you give? I don't know. I uh, so the first woman she gets She gets bit On the train and she's going for Well, maybe it's like once they like if they die then it's immediate once they die. Maybe that's where oh definitely Yeah, it's So when they bite them it's standard zombie rules at least for modern times Which is that this bite is going to kill you over time. It's like a timer in a second. You die. You're a zombie Okay, all right. All right. All right. I don't know if they have walking dead rules Where you become a zombie whether or not you're bitten if you die Um, I guess we never get examples of that, but I think you do have to be bitten in this. That would be my guess Yeah And uh, yeah, I would think I give as best faith as I can to this and be like it'll take longer If you're bitten on the hand than if you're bitten on the neck that sort of stuff Yeah I because Yeah, there's there's examples of that like in the movie. Yeah as well, yeah Because yeah, we see people get bitten to fuck like on the neck and it takes like a couple seconds before They back up again versus people are bitten in the hand and it'll take them like two minutes or so before they change Yeah, which uh, but just fast in general Because I think walking dead it can take like days or whatever right if you're bitten on like your fingernail or something Yeah, I think so. Thanks a while Um, yeah, and I think that was the same for resident evil actually or at least resident evil three It took a while for the pips to change Yeah a bit on the chest, right? Yeah, and it still took a minute just to change Yeah Yeah, I don't know how though how um, how good those films are probably uh, she got a bit in the neck the arm And her hands I think she a bit four times in resident evil one. I can't remember but uh, I can't remember either Well, either way, uh the natural assumption here is that violence is breaking out people are fucking trying to kill each other for some reason so everybody needs to move into the other carts, but uh The more you look at it it's like these things are not people Or at least they don't seem to be acted like people and like yeah the What are the main sort of hosts guys just watches someone just nibbling on someone's hand just like what the fuck And um, I think that's where the high schoolers get sectioned off in the cart in the other direction While he tries to get everybody to move back back back through the yeah the cars And what's cool about this is that it's panic It's insane this screaming and like that and then it just cuts to our main character Who's really far away just looking through the the restrooms to find his daughter and everything's just quiet So it's like yeah, no Takes a while for them to get there The film does a good job of establishing where on the train people are um, which is more difficult than it sounds because when you're on a train like that every every I guess so was every compartment every Section what are the Well, they call them cars. I think in ours. Yeah all the cars they look the same because the train But they do a good job to say I'm over in such and such and they refer to such and such cars and they They they Will pause to show on the wall what the number is of the train to make the characters aware of it Yeah, so you never feel like you're just lost like you don't have a sense of scale or direction or location There was a part round about there was sorry there was there was a part round about this But when I was sort of trying to comprehend I was like hold on how did they get zombie outbreaks like on either side of them On the train and it was during our first watch through and never noticed it But I noticed that when the dad's like sitting someone actually runs past them holding their arm And they've just came from the park of the train where everything got fucked up And obviously they've been bit and they're sprinting down to like the opposite side of the train And then obviously they turned and fucked up that part of the train And that's how they had zombies on either side of them and that was something that I completely missed on a first watch Well, and it's um like I said the high schoolers They go the other direction right at the beginning So they lock themselves on one side of the train the zombies in the middle Then there's our main character and then past that they might be more as well. It's like uh there's lots of splits And that a lack of awareness of that actually gets some people killed later on because they don't know where the safe cars are necessarily um Yeah, I'm just Curious if it if it's anything to do with um, I guess it's because there's a lot of um things that you can latch onto when I think it's framing um And where like the camera is positioned it always It's always on the left hand side of the Or for the most part it's on the left hand side of the train And like you can see on the other side the direction that the train is going in pretty clearly so that it's just not confusing I think it's just really clear visual vocabulary that helps People figure out where everybody is Yeah, um, you're gonna want to have a lary like a versatile verb Yeah, I I'd imagine you're gonna want to avoid confusing people wouldn't you? It's like so many cars and so many characters at different positions You're really gonna have to do the best we can to let people know like I was just making sense Well, just give people something that they can latch onto that they will subconsciously Figure out where people are um And I think yeah, I I'm as as the scene's playing and I'm looking at it. Yeah, it seems like There were just ways it was communicated that were kind of subtle And then you can sort of figure it out and they give you enough information to figure it out. It's just Good filmmaking really yeah, and uh It's finally caught up with the main characters car while he's looking for a Daughter who's now behind him because he was almost going to check the restroom But he went past it and what's cool is just this is just normal loads of people are screaming and rushing while other people Just like what is going on? What are you running from? And then one guy comes through and he's holding his neck and he just staggers into a seat And um, so it's it's already just getting to pay off now It's like the guy who's been desperately telling everybody to move to get out to move to get out The hostess catches up with him and just bites him immediately and it's like down he goes Yep, uh all the sacrifices he was making got him killed just to help other people which uh Probably were pointing that out as we go, but yeah, he gets uh thrashed out his neck by the hostess lady And um, I feel like this is a great little moment for not only just confirming information We already had but definitely for our protagonist He watches someone get bitten several times and then she turns immediately grabs someone else bites them And then the one that she started on immediately gets up So it's just like yeah, this happens quick and it's fucking No, I'm fucking around and it just pans all the way back to him and he's like, okay Okay, I know exactly what is going on now. Thank you for showing me like an accurate exact timeline And uh, there's just this really cool shot of I'm guessing it would have been done with attaching almost the camera to the actor the zombie rather I guess but he's um Running at a and they build up the the music as well, but he's just chasing and it's it's a particularly intense shot like It's just thrashing while chasing out a guy and then um, it probably is like some kind of some kind of belt Yeah, probably. Yeah, waist with like a camera strung in front of him and um It becomes a little bit more intense too because right behind him is just many zombies like it's already Completely infected like most people because it's just really hard to escape them Especially in those numbers to the point where they pile up on each other. Um, yeah, which is I thought I I mentioned this to you guys But I thought I first saw that in game of thrones, but that came out 2018 This was 2016 which I mean now I'm starting to think I think they just took it um It doesn't surprise me because season eight was a fucking disaster. Well, but one was he did that shit too though, so um I'd have one was he did a very gratuitous I was gonna say no, we will see the one right where they make a mountain of zombies to climb over It's the only scene I know from that movie. Yeah, I watched it, but that one got around Oh, look at them doing a fucking zombie mountain music Did they do the one way like a group is sprinting and they smash into it like they create a tidal wave Is that something that happens in okay when they're running around? And um They're running around in the city like after they've climbed over the wall And there's just yeah a tidal wave of zombies, but it's all CGI And they they do that in Busan, but it's only it's it's not a tidal It's not as ridiculous like it was there was two times practical It's much more like bowling pins where they they clog themselves up and fall over straight away It's not like yeah in when they stop at the train station In all the military ones so when the glass breaks I think they had a practical just a big pile of Just like what faux bodies essentially That was underneath a lot of the actors as they were going over the top So it looked really good That you know, it didn't look out of place It really did give that appearance that they were crawling all over each other Yeah, it wasn't like some exaggerated like that wouldn't happen like Sort of nonsense like they did in world war z like it did actually look real and as for like a waterfall as zombies there was a There was a part where they had that and it was shortly after that scene, but it wasn't ridiculous It was still believable and it's the bit when the soldiers were falling out of the upper window to on top of the train Like that. Yeah, that was reasonable that bit and that's where you got the soldier that like Broke his shoulder and was running around like a fucking mongo. Yeah Yeah, we're already supposed to assume I think that just some of the ones at the front trip and then the ones at the back are so desperate to get over them They go up above them and then more and more and it just clogs and they crash down and Yeah, these these uh zombies. They're not uh, they're not graceful. No, um, they're ferocious And yeah, this is the this is the one I was talking about where uh Our guy is running forward and he sees a zombie in front of him Who hasn't spotted him yet? But then he like breaks his head back flips his body and then comes at it But it's just like with the sound effects, especially with like how Pumped this scene is It's just oh, it's so intense. You're just like fucking yeah And it's so claustrophobic as well Which uh, this movie definitely benefits from not the fact that we got super fast zombies and very little spaces to run Mm-hmm Um, yeah, the movie doesn't even though it takes place in a train. Did you feel like the movie was Because I never felt claustrophobic Oh, I definitely did I'm planning. Yeah, I think that's I think it's a subjective tism Could you just I don't know they did a good job at making it feel enclosed But you never got like the like they've got I don't know. Maybe it's just me Um, yeah, there's loads of references All the times that they try and you know when they get on they realize that they are in a car That's between two with broken doors that have zombies in each of them It's just a moment of like the only option we have is hopefully getting into an even smaller space that they hopefully don't realize Or even in um, obviously when they're crawling through the the top parts like, um How enclosed everything gets it's just yeah, they're like, uh, and there's just so little escape options Uh, meanwhile in a lot of zombie movies, you'll have The scaring the the scariness of the the fast zombies is that you do have plenty of places to go But they will still be right behind you sort of thing Uh So yeah, um, you know Still probably like half the train is chill and we finally catch back up to where Chad was and he's just like Lots of people running around screaming the fuck's going on Which is still just this cool element that it's like infecting the trade from one side to the other slowly. Uh, Yep And yeah, um, I love his response No, like at first he's sort of like grabbing the women and just holding her back And he's looking at her like what the hell's wrong Like he's just sort of staring like what the fuck's going on and he's trying to sort of be Chill about it But see when he looks behind and sees all those zombies and the women it just starts throwing punches Oh, dude, it's so legendary because like he does it He does everything he's super normal But also led like a fucking great person because um The two him and his wife just see a guy biting a woman And it's so bizarre that they freeze for a bit and he immediately goes to protect his wife because that's who he is And then she's like fucking dumb ass to help it. He's like, oh Yeah, like, okay. I yeah, and he's just like, hey weird guy get off the lady Stop Yeah, then he just comes he's like, whoa, what the fuck's wrong with you Like why is this just like how you deal with like a drunk? I guess you're like, yeah Are you nuts? Yeah As our character just sneaks by him as he's being attacked and uh I think because he's got a child at that point. You don't have to infer anything necessarily But you can definitely see on a rewatch this like yeah, he doesn't fucking care about any of these people He's just protecting himself and his daughter Um, and yeah, there's just this great moment where he sees them all And he's like honey You can run right It's just oh shit. This is this is not fun. Uh, she's also a fucking great actress in this by the way I guess they all are Yeah, they're very good. Yeah, just selling that uh emotion. So of course these two are now at the end of the line Oh, that's another just the way that fucking zombie gets up. Uh, try and show that. Yeah as well Nice and creeptastic And yeah, um, it's a little bit undersold because the audio as well really fucking nails it for this The clickety-clackin and squelching. But yeah, there's uh, several Yeah, that frame fucking hell man. That was that's good. And so, um Yeah, a whole bunch of characters are making it into like the main car that's got the main set of survivors left Our protagonist gets in which means the only people left now a pregnant lady and chad And uh businessman immediately is like close the fucking door to do it close it right now. Fuck them And uh, our protagonist tries but it's not quite working. He needs to sort out a manual release, I think And uh, he's got a choice to make Will you lock these two out? Or will you wait for them to get there? And it's like a It's such a classic moment for all these kinds of films because it's just a great way to create tension Right because we as an audience like oh, we want them to survive Um, and I think I don't know about you guys, but I was just like yeah He's gonna let him in and then he'll close it in the last minute. That's probably how it's gonna go Yeah, that's what I thought was gonna happen as well, but he closes them out It's just like wow And uh, bam, you can tell the faces as well You can tell there's enough time to let him in especially the pregnant lady, but he's just like nah It's too risky. Bye. Bye. The fucking chad just punches what out I guess it can be closer. He does not give a shit But the thing is you can't lock these doors you can only hold them And so she just opens it back up and I'm assuming our protagonist just gives up in terms of preventing them And so yeah, they get in and they close it right before And the scene sort of calms back down. That's that's uh Because we realized these guys ain't smart The zombies so they can't open they can't really use handles Or access things however they work um And so there's no way to lock the door and so we just sort of decide like I guess you can just leave it As long as they don't activate it, right and then uh, they quickly realize like they're desperate to get to us because they can see us Like I was just impressed the The wife immediately tosses water onto the uh the door and puts newspapers on it It's just like damn That'll do it Are those smart characters we're having? That weird What? And so yeah, but yeah This shows a lot about the characters in this movie because they understand what has happened It's like oh apparently there's rules to these guys or they they can only act at a certain Uh in a certain moment Yeah, like let's leverage the fact that we've got brains and they don't Yes, like oh, we're just gonna close this down. Oh, this thing is not moving. This is running against it Oh, just let it go Oh, let's just shut the doors and cover it up. It's like, okay that show now. They can't see us because Yeah, there's all these they do calm down. They're just like There's no humans. What the fuck they're very um They're very in the moment sort of creatures, you know, they just don't live for much else. Yeah, they're quite the Epicureans No, that's what we could you could say this this starts the archipelago main protagonist I guess. Well, yeah, so immediately. He's like you don't mean apology. He's like no, I don't This is like you fucking asshole. I would have feed you to the zombies and he's like He wraps up doesn't he and he says you guys weren't the only ones in danger, which is an argument But when he says what a piece of work because if you just look at the context like you could have easily let us in You decide it not to And so like, you know, it's it's definitely a more so I'll feel better about myself I say I did it for the sake of the the the many all right. That's totally why I did it Wasn't out of fear for myself or anything um And so, yeah, uh, they just all the confirmation is happening. We got a good like Probably 40 characters still so just like man, you have to thin these numbers, you know Can't be having this many people in in the climax. So what what's gonna happen? We just find out that uh, they're on their way to Busan I think ultimately but there's gonna be potential for stops and they find out that one of them is safe Yes, no, like that's where we will go um And the conductor's just like That's that's the I guess what thrusts the train because someone might argue like why not try and get off at any Place and I think it's because they're trying to head to places that the military have control Yes, yeah, um, and they they're told that the first area they're gonna go to has that and uh Oh, look at that as well. Uh chat asks someone to give up their seat because his wife is pregnant and they do Sacrifices people may uh Yeah, I think the we get intermittent a couple of calls from Main character with different different people. He's obviously he's talked to is like, uh, he's got a friend who's connected to the army and someone who uh someone who works with Uh, the company, right? Are they the same person? I can't remember I think uh, I think the same guy. Yeah um, and then of course his mum Who the last thing she tries to get through to him before something's clearly going wrong with her Is to take care of that daughter of yours Mm-hmm Because uh, yeah, everyone everyone's getting fucked in this horrific world unfortunately, and uh, yeah, his mum his mum just starts going blah blah blah blah and um It sounds like she hangs up as she does that so you have to picture that she as a zombie was like, uh, fuck this call I don't want to deal with it As she was turning that was the last act. I will hang up on him. No need for him to hear me uh Gurgling, you know, sometimes it's awkward, you know what he's called like do I hang up? Do you hang up who's like, uh, someone's gotta be the Up and I think she made the right call by avoiding that kind You know, we've all been there. We have Yeah, and so um, it's just a matter of all right gonna get to this and next Oh, I think they actually slowed down don't they in one stop And a whole bunch of people are immediately like help Yeah, let me in And uh, it's just Cruel because you have all of our characters have to watch loads of people get eaten in front of them It's like a showcase because you can't stop to help them because the zombies are all over them It's just like yeah, if you didn't need more evidence that uh Shit's fucked. This is bad. We're in a bad position right now Um, and yeah, there's uh, just I think footage on the news of just loads of people all over the place getting fucked up by uh by Zambies The just confirming though that they are a little stupid and uh, that's that's going to be a main advantage, I'd imagine Um, yeah, and then uh, they uh They they're all moving forward. I think down the cars and um they decided to sort of sit in an area and um His daughter gives up her seat for an old lady Yeah, the old lady and their sister. Yeah Who are also going to be relevant characters Oh, yeah And he's like, okay daughter you fucking you got to stop like worrying about other people you got to worry about yourself And uh, the subtitles literally have him say like you got to like chill on the whole being so good thing Like watch out for yourself. Yeah, but at a time like this No, that's what I mean It's not it's not an unreasonable thing to say that you need to look out for Yourself is what his goal is there, but then she says Uh granny's knees always would hurt or whatever like the idea is just uh A basic understanding of decency that she doesn't want to give up basically You can tell it's like struggling for him to uh square it away, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, I guess you could give up a seat But like seriously you got to you got to put yourself first and there's just uh actions to sort of judge throughout the film about that in terms of What the right thing is to do in all these different circumstances um Yeah, and I think uh, we just see Businessmen's talking to people about uh different stops Because he's very much on his own sort of adventure as well And it reminds the main character to talk to his guy about just trying to get more information as well as an option in the next stop and While he's doing that the first thing chad says to the daughter is like is that your real dad? And his wife's like dude And uh, yeah, they just confirm his job that he's like, ah, he's a blood sucker Um Yeah, there's there's loads of little bits like this in the film where there's just standard dialogue But it makes the characters that was more endearing um good stuff And yeah, she just like offers I think a little sweet and then They're talking about the pregnancy and uh The Like she puts a hand on it or something like the chat is just like I made that You can't he's just a really down-to-earth kind of guy that you like, you know, yeah Yeah, I think uh He snuck up on me a little bit. We'll get to the moment where I was like, holy fuck. This guy's great But uh, I'll rewatch. I just like I immediately like him from the second. He's on screen He's um, just fully understandable as a person And yeah, um, it's just a nice little human moment of like a baby's on the way and everyone's happy about that It's like yay in the middle of the zombie park flips. Whoo Um And so yeah, he gets the call and uh, the friend is like I'll get you out while everyone else goes with the main army And what's gonna happen with them is they'll be quarantined and put through all kinds of different checks and stuff While if you go A different exit we can get you out straight away He's like, uh-huh Um, and he goes through it all but what he doesn't realize is the hobo man was listening to that conversation Or at least he he realizes he was there too late And so he's just gonna hope the hobo man is kind of just a nobody crazy man That's fine. Don't worry about it. I'm sure he doesn't realize anything Yeah, and um, you can't help but think of course about Like, oh, you're gonna get you and your daughter out the nice and safe way while the others are gonna have to go through, uh Whatever else just like, I don't know. Um, I guess you could pull out some people additionally if you wanted to or you could not it's But he's committing to just him and his daughter Yeah And so it feels like an act break almost And uh, we we so we're arriving now at this uh stop And the hopes are the the army's got this place under control And uh, it's gg and it's kind of funny because it's just like, hmm We're a third into the movie and they're trying to say that the army is gonna sort of all out like, hmm Yeah, I don't know all the army's just gonna kill everybody sort of thing Yes, there are concerns there is suspense and yeah, uh, the the station itself is just blank nobody meets them It's just like, hmm But um, of course they start getting out But businessman doesn't head out in that stop. He immediately goes to the conductor and says we gotta leave now go to busan And then he even says uncouple it and just take us And it's like I think he says how many people can be, um Taken in the in the main compartment. I'm not sure that that's because he wants to Save as many as possible rather. He just wants to know that he can definitely go in there. Yeah Um, because I don't think he cares about anybody but himself Yeah, doing a good job of making very unlikable in this movie. Oh, yeah, uh, whenever I see people talk about this movie They fucking hate that man and I understand that We'll get into it Yeah, very hateable. So I think I don't know if we mentioned earlier the that school Guy the baseball guy immediately grabbed a weapon when he realized there's danger. He immediately grabbed the Yeah, the baseball bat from Yeah, the um The surviving high schoolers all the guys have baseball bats and the girl is just staying behind Yeah, uh, the main high schooler guy Um Yeah, he grabs the conductor and he's just like how many can fit we got to go right now and he says not only can they Not uncouple it without like a you know special Uh station. I'm assuming to do that Um, but he also says he's not leaving without you know other people Which is uh baffling to businessmen I guess to deal with this from several people in the story. What the fuck is wrong with you? Yeah, I'm back Oh, we're just they just arrived at the station. We're just talking about how uh Uh conflicting sort of motivations for characters, right? Cause like a lot of them just want to get out because they believe this place is safe Uh, the conductor is just like I want to make sure we get as many people as possible business But it's like can we just uncouple and leave me and you like I just want to go Yeah Just a little trip just just me and you um And so yeah, because this is it's a fucking zombie horror movie and everyone is chill at this moment They sort of just all their little escalator just feel like all right that there we go. You just sit there like oh, man What's gonna go wrong? And uh, yeah, uh, he obviously makes sure to just try and Slink away our main character with his kids while everyone else is going the main way and even uh chat notices And he's just like, uh, just ignore him. Let him do whatever the fuck he's doing Um, but unfortunately for him hobo man overheard the conversation And in an attempt to justify why he is following them He then lets the girl know what they're doing there and then she is like we've got to tell other people And he's like fuck that this is for me and you And she like tries to leave and I think he stops her and then um It's like you you've got to help them and he's like no, we don't forget them. We're on our own and she like stops Just says you already care about yourself. That's why My mum left whatever. It's like oh fucking hell Bringing this up here right now Because zombies to deal with And yeah before we can see anything resolution of that chat notices There's a riot shield with some blood on the floor Which to be fair could then you know that could exist for any reason really, but it's still just a little bit like Why would that be the case like I guess someone could have left the riot shield on the floor And yeah, uh hobo man spots someone that's looking to meet them, but you can see he's walking a little little odd Uh So our characters get in there It's just like this the suspense building of like where someone's about to go could catastrophically wrong And you can just see all the soldiers outside Standing and then As well Little on the fucking escalator was going down. It's so great. It's so fucking great Yeah, that because you see that because they're on escalators going down to I guess like the plaza or the open the main area They open space and so you see The feet of the crowd outside first Yeah, and you could just tell by the the feet and the legs that they're That they're zombies the way that they're just sort of stumbling around and they're all in the boots and the camo And you know like all shit, you know like this is really really bad and so It's uh once you get low enough You can see their faces and then the zombie spot them and they all start spreading toward them And it's like a conveyor belt feeding them humans because they're just cycling down And it's oh, I'm so unfortunate. Um, but again Chad just immediately grabs his wife and lifts her over and it's the way he does it It's like he just goes nope It's honestly great because even she is like, wow, what the fuck you he's just like go go go go Uh, just quick action smart guy and wife first Really hard not to love this guy already um And yeah, so obviously a lot of Let's call them father get get wiped out here a lot of bonus lives our characters have get taken out um, and it really whittling us down to the people we know but um Yeah, the high schoolers are obviously trying to trying to get out of there too Conductors spots it from the top of the steps along with businessmen. So everyone's just panicking try to get back to the train That is now the goal And so coming back to main character Uh, even his like bonus exit has been overthrown with zombies too And it's only just what he's he gets a phone call from his friends saying he can't get through to his men So something's fucking wrong And um something that is something to be honest if he's trying to help him out like something He probably should have mentioned to him. Oh, yeah, the station's safe. I haven't been able to talk to any of my men Or probably not know what about Well, I guess the problem is we don't know exactly when this happened. It could have been recent, I guess um, might have already got through to him and then uh, sort of like a montage cut on the train, but Yeah, um as soon as he sees the zombies, he immediately looks back at his daughter And this this is because the thing about films like this is i'm never quite sure what's gonna happen because they don't Uh adhere to tropes as often as uh, west movies will often do And so like there was a chance here. I was like, is the kid gonna die? Are they actually gonna kill her because of like Because she has loads. Well, I say loads There's a zombie right Zombie running right for it and you're just like, holy fuck. Is this gonna be the horrible reality that our main character has to Watch his kid die in an attempt to save it But an elbow comes right in when it needs to from chad To uh, yeah, that just means that he took the time to help a kid when trying to escape himself. I'm just like, oh, what a legend Yeah And um, yeah, he has the MVP this entire fucking movie though. Oh, yes Yeah, absolutely. Yes. You should be everyone's favorite character. It's obvious. Yeah handstone and so um He and the high schoolers are just getting everybody in that they can while main character gets attacked by a zombie so he's Bit busy shows a book in its mouth Again, just yeah, that's probably a smart move. I guess I have to bite down on that and uh, we get a complete glorious role reversal where Chad has got the door. It's locked and um, our character is stuck on the other side And there's not even a hesitation. Chad is immediately like come on get the fuck out of there asshole run. Yep And uh, I like that he takes the time to call him an asshole still. Yes, great. He calls it asshole throughout the film Um And yeah, hobo guy actually helps the main character So he puts his coat on top of the zombie and because the zombie can't see him He basically just is completely confused, which I think Is a nice way of sort of partially setting up what we're going to be getting later And um, the main character he gets in like half a second before all the army zombies gets in Like that's how much they put on the line to save him And uh, it's really interesting to think about in terms of the whole sacrifice stuff because what knock-on effect will that have What will main character do as a result of uh People saving his life and stuff Yeah, we get to the really unfortunate part a lot of people in their rush to get back to the train Open a car up and a bunch of zombies pour out of it. They're just like And I totally see that happening in real life. Absolutely when you're that terrified. Yeah Yeah, it just runs like I want to get back in there. It's like oh shit and then you're dead And so they get dragged in one a direction away But more of our main characters are making it back onto the car that they were in in the first place and the conductor Is just watching until he doesn't kind of have to decide when he's gonna leave And I think he does it via he's got a host that's left and the host has got a Little walkie-talkie and you'll tell him when to leave But even at this point the businessman is like let's go and he's like no we've got to save more people you fuck You're a piece of shit And then we get the part where the zombies burst through the window all the bodies just flying down And um one of them that falls this is the one that dag was talking about like he's His arm it's like broken behind his head Oh, yeah And he um he separates the two grannies I don't know why this bit made me laugh so much like It's the way he runs And it's just The poor guy's just hungry. He just wants to eat some meat whether or not his arm is fucked Um Yeah, uh more and more people just getting on and and at this point They're all closing the doors on the zombies as they get there so It's stressful because they're only just making it but at the same time We know that two of our main fucking dudes are all still in the actual station. They're not even at the train yet Yeah, yeah Yeah, and um, we get another moment of they get on to um Desperately main character's wife old lady and kid Get on to a car Nondescript we don't know like they just get on to one And uh right before they close it hobo guy is like no, no let me in too and uh, she decides she'll save him Wonder if that'll have repercussions too in a good way But yeah, they close it and like seconds before the zombies get there Um And so everyone is safe And then it just cuts back to uh the doors that our main characters are struggling with and it's just that car There's so many people left to get the fuck out of here Um and businessman is like we can't wait any longer. You gotta fucking go and they teleconductor to start up the train Which is just like At this point, you don't I think you want to be on the train rather than off at this station It's um, yeah exactly safer. I guess if you're in a safe car, you know Um And yeah, this whole time they're just trying before they leave the doors They just want to get the the the man like the manual lock in So they can move away, which wouldn't have been so hard if he had chosen not to save uh protagonist man Just uh, just interesting how everything's sort of flowing out and gets it locked up They basically crack through it straight away because of the pressure from all the zombies and they're like headbutting it and stuff Um Yeah, and then we get another unfortunate moment where the high school kids Has to watch all of his friends die because they went first without uh Sort of checking the land out and they just get hit by a bunch of zombies And an interesting detail is when he sees that they are done for He freezes And he's like just stuck and it's actually our protagonist that wakes him the fuck up. It's a good a good going and uh Really whittling down the characters now we we we dealt with we got very few left, uh But we get a scene that's pretty fucking badass The three characters are just sprinting to try and get on to what remains of the options for the cars to jump on And uh, the two at the front being high school get your kid and and may retire They just get right on but chad's a little bit too far behind so we can't quite reach them And there's this part that I think is consistently confused everybody just for second Yeah, which had like moves away from the train and you're like, what are you doing? And uh, it's the same sort of Knowledge as the pov of our main character is like, why are you doing that? We're like, why are you doing that? It's like because there's three zombies headed right for him But he grabs a baton and a shield and just fucks them up. Yep One of the last four Yeah, and then continue spreading until you can get on with them And it's just uh, that was the point where I was like, I don't want this guy to die Yeah I'm going to live forever Um He's an action hero Absolutely. Yeah And so everyone's back on with probably more than half of them having died No Yeah The overwhelming majority of the train is fucked at that point they get way too on the fucking escalators Yeah, the so this the way works now is like the conductor's car is obviously fine The car behind him is fine. The car behind that is fine. Then loads of zombies then the uh, the wife And uh, the kid Then loads of zombies and then our characters the main ones It's uh, everyone's been split into these sections now Um, the two cars behind the conductor is the uh, we're like the main set of random people are Because yeah, our our peeps just realized the car they got onto is in between two other ones that have lots of zombies on them And the doors are smashed So, uh, they realized the best thing they can do is get into the uh, restroom basically Yeah, wife immediately goes for that one door as well Yeah, she's quick thinking which she was before as well So not a great situation to be in and because phones still work There's no reason for them to not to they get to notify our main characters that they are stuck I think they're in like car nine and uh, our guys are in car 12 or something like that Yeah, that's what's about right and there's zombies between them Because this is a film that doesn't forget that phones exist It's really neat And yeah, what's uh, what's kind of cool here is um Chad almost has a sense of like Like we can't reach him Because of that and in it's our protagonist that immediately takes off his coat in preparation for Taking out the zombies and Chad is like what you're gonna you're just gonna go You're gonna go through him How do you fucking do that and then in the background Chad's sort of in a way when he's like you're you're gonna go through them But but you're a pussy Look at your twig arms And so yeah, uh in the background while they're discussing that the high school is preparing to uh Wrap shit around your arms that makes it harder for zombies to bite you Which uh genuinely shocking to see because it really was So much zombie content where they never care about that Oh, yeah, like it's it's the smart thing to do in like a zombie apocalypse because you get so Like there are tropes whether it's shit that is so fucking obvious Everybody knows the bites fucking up. So get some leather or some plastic or something to go around your fucking arms Right, that's normal or it's always the one where it's like, oh Better better not look behind me for like a whole 30 seconds And then you get that silent stealth ninja zombie that nobody heard or seen Even though talking to a character who can see right over their shoulder And then they get fucking grabbed behind the bit in the neck Like i'm happy that there's none of that fucking bullshit in this but this this is smart This is like a smart thing this this just makes me think that like Americans are retards and like Koreans are like really smart And we'd actually survive in a scenario like this Um, so they're setting up to basically try and reach through the zombies or at least they're not going to try and kill them They're just going to try and get through them fast enough and then close doors behind them. That's the idea and um He says uh, you're a fun manager You're like Your whole thing is leaving useless people behind as he passes them a weapon And I just think that the implication there is just like you understand that in this environment, you're one of the most useless people Yeah, this is fucking great. And and because on top of the fact that he's been saved several times by chat at this point Got some thematic shit going on Yeah, then we just get this shot of the preparing as a trio to take all the zombies and it's just like This film's cool Also, you have writing characters like i'm going front. It's like, all right. Yeah makes sense. I believe yeah You're going front Um, and yeah, and they go through a tunnel and he's like we've got to wait until we get light back So, you know easier to see and it's interesting how that's going to play out soon enough Um, and yeah, so the idea I think is to just stick the shit out of them It's when he's when he pecks one up and just slams them into the fucking roof I fucking love that but Oh, he just he hits so heavy and like you actually for a moment are just like bad these zombies get fucked up Yeah He's a big guy too so you can believe it. Yeah, he's um, I think once he takes the coat off you can fully realize like oh He's like he's a big jungler. It's like. Yeah. Yeah um big guy And so yeah, the main idea here is just if they can breach through them Even for a moment and then close the door. That's all they need to do It's not about like making sure they stab everyone in the head so that they get through them or whatever um, and they're they're working out really well and uh It's just uh once once you get your opportunities you go through Um, unfortunately, they are successful. They get through but the next car is filled with the high school friends. Yeah, which uh Uh high school a boy just completely freezes and so they start trying to deal with it and this is another time where um, I'm assuming you guys might have been on the same page but they They do the film thing where they show the two people struggling the two people struggling cut back to our guy Who's frozen cut back and back and I was like, oh, he's gonna he's gonna overcome it, right? He's gonna He's gonna spring to action But no, it's uh, they go through a tunnel And the zombies get completely confused. They don't know whether people are anymore and it's uh, it's just a weakness They've added to these zombies for this universe that when it's dark They can't actually see people and that's the main way that they figure out who they're attacking Um secondary being sound Yeah, so ironically even though It only gets batman batwoman dark And the zombies have white eyes like batwoman does when she uses her night vision They cannot see they don't have night vision They don't have yeah, even though their eyes look like they don't have night vision like batwoman does Um, and yeah, I just think it's a need that they avoiding the tunnels and it's the tunnels that actually help them so it's like a Little bit of um, like yeah, damn, you know interesting thing about uh And yeah, I think uh, what's cool is Something falls and it's like it slightly disturbs them And so our character uses the bat to hit something pretty far away to move them all across It's just like, oh my god Stop showing me people learning stuff and using it to their advantage. I'm not used to this terrifying It is terrifying Isn't fair Yeah, and so they get past uh car number two And I think uh with the knowledge they've learned there They decide what if we you know, put the number of your phone into my phone Then activate that phone once we're halfway through and then they rush to the other side and then we can get through Um, yeah They basically like they defeat each of these cars in different ways. It's just like damn film Like you really just how dynamic we're being right now in terms of figuring stuff out as we go and characters just trying to use their heads to Best create scenarios that can benefit them and again just um Maintaining all of the the effects the the darkness and they keeping track of their uh the gps on their phone to know when the Try the tunnels are coming up Yeah, because it's really useful and their smartphones are using their they are using the technology that they have To do things it's great And yeah, they reach um the wife and kid And it's just a nice little moment. She even slaps him Or like hits him. He's like Not a nice little touch. I I saw when he threw away hit the chat's phone He has like uh, that's like the picture of the uh, uh Shit, how do you call these pictures that they do ultrasound picture of his baby on his phone as a background You can see that when it's ringing. He's like, aw The nice detail right there Yeah Because he made that don't you know he did make that And he did very well. I assume um, yeah, they get into the other restroom until they um We'll get off to wait for the next tunnel, which I think they say is two minutes of tunnel Yeah, so it's gonna be a decent chunk of time to try and do something almost cool is uh Instead of it being like strictly logistics next position and just like where are we going nice and stuff? They they lock us all in and he just goes hey jerk feel good seeing you kid. Thanks to me And it pans over and he just goes why is your ringtone so shit? He's just like what's wrong with our ringtone? Yeah, it's gotta change it. Yeah How do I change it? He's like it's not bad. How do I change it though? And the kid laughs and he's like you think that's funny little rat Like how tall are you and he fucking like Huffs up his chest. It's just it's just nice in terms of uh, it's a little bit nice chill human shit Yeah, and so they he's just figuring out where the tunnel is and that's how they're gonna deal with the next section and um You know, I think it's enough evidence at this point that as much as he did lock the door in the beginning He's absolutely a person who's willing to sacrifice to help people I think chat has noticed that pretty strongly at this point And so he says, um I bet you never get to play with your daughter Like as a thing about how committed he is With other things. He's like when she gets older. She'll understand why you work so hard It's just like oh shit, man Is um, it's not being such a good guy He says dad, dad's get all the shit, but no praise, but it's about the sacrifice, right? It's like movie You're doing a theme here. You doing like yeah, what are you doing? How do you make me feel? I just want to see if people get eaten by zombies Yeah, I'm imagining an alternate universe where people only know like the shitty movies we get here in the west And they just think oh, this isn't how movies are supposed to be this is this sucks It's been a lot of time. They spend a lot of time tell us who these people are Like what the fuck I do I do like how he ruins it after it though Like they're looking at him as if like what what a profound and amazing thing to see and they're looking at him and he goes What did I say something cool? And I can't help but feel like it's a little bit deliberate in that He's the chat's not got long left. Unfortunately. Yeah You're making me really like him. Oh no Um, and yeah, because we get the scene of basically uh, he calls the girl For the high schoolers and tells her we're on the way let us in and then she's like excellent We'll do it and then everyone in the car starts getting way paranoid and they're like the fuck. Do you mean let the people in? Do you want us all to die? And it's like And they're all this is like this shot where they're all just staring at her Like you must be insane to just let random people in it's like I mean, but They they were us, you know not long ago. It's like yeah, I guess and She like begs the The host guy to do something about it, but even he's just like, I don't know man And he was the one that was saying we have to wait for other people And I just think that the idea here is that um the more catastrophic everything gets Um the more paranoia is seeping in and the more you just like you want to reduce any chances of dying Yeah Let's spread in that fear Um, but yeah, the so the they've got to get through I think Like two carts or even one actually they're pretty close to where they got to go But it's filled with zombies and so the plan is to go up through where the the luggage is kept If they can just cycle through that while the tunnel's on they won't be spotted and if they make a limited sound Should be okay And um, they throw something behind them again, so it just drags all the zombies up clears the way and honestly watching it happen You're just like oh my god You're just cleverly using your environment and everything that you have at your disposal to get past these zombies And um Everyone's what's interesting about this to me is protagonist gets off and then he lifts his daughter off and then uh Uh chad helps his wife down And so they're both very concerned about them nobody helps hobo man get down Oh, yeah, he's nobody's like Charge, you know, like it's just you know, you'll be fine. You got this kind of on his own no one's like yeah everyone's got there Yeah And uh, he slips on the little covers they have on the seats Which um, yeah unfortunate, but it makes just enough noise That it's it's clear that we're in trouble now and there's this cool moment where the little girl goes to help him And protagonist holds it back and does it himself It's like oh shit And uh Yeah, um the unfortunate thing is they're almost out of time And there's just this cool bit with the tunnel Finishes all the main characters. They move to the sides and uh our guy pushes the hobo into into the seats and pushes himself back To the seats and so they all clear out before the zombies can see them. It's just a nice little bit Yeah and um Yeah, the idea is like the zombies are getting closer and closer and closer just naturally and so Protagonist just commits to we just got to run like that. That's our only thing here and um Not that it makes a huge difference But uh, he steps on a can which would be enough noise to be like yeah now Now it's urgent as they start running and because of the fact that they're urgent. They couldn't quite get the door closed Which means chad's trying to hold it closed While they they all they need to do is just get into the safe cart which which Theoretically it's just opening a door and closing it right and then everyone's safe and and chad can can get him there too Thing is with the knowledge that the girl gave them they have made it so that it is really hard to get through to that door now They've like um attached like uh strings to it and they uh, I think I don't know if they have anyone holding it yet But it's a relatively clever idea in terms of just giving it more strength. Unfortunately You've now pitted humans against humans and there's a glass door between them Like the zombies might not be smart enough to know exactly how and when to smash a thing But they've got the baseball bat and so It's just something I really enjoyed while watching it because in an attempt to absolutely prevent any infection They're going to just screw everything up now because the only choice our characters have is to break that door down And that's because the the paranoia that they can't let them in sort of thing Um and yeah, even chad is just like fucking smash it like we got to get through uh While he's trying to hold I think a zombie's head gets through the door so we can't close it any further than that gap But And what's cool about that is while they're figuring out that door Uh protagonist goes back to help him with that door while um, they're figuring it out Yeah, he uh He hits that woman's head and she goes down and she looks like she's down for the count still wiggling though This is like this is something and yeah, so they start smashing that door And the thing is you know that the second they smash through it. That's a liability, right? It's like uh, but the thing is you got no choice. It's like otherwise. They'll just die anyway And yeah, the doors he's losing his grip on the door So he puts his hand on it and the woman who was knocked down isn't quite out actually And she turns back up and bites him in the hand No And it's just yeah, that's like the classic drama you get was zombie movies the second someone's bit everyone knows what it means It's like they're still they're still talking to him. They're still fighting. It's like, yeah, but You're dead now. You're on a timer Um And yeah, so they managed to finally smash through it But the second door from the other side of the car the businessman closes it on and but to get an arm through and now it's just a matter of Strength from either side, which you'll deal with a lot of people on one side and a lot of people on the other. Yeah Um And yeah, so the that's just As people who've seen this movie and I gave I gave them all homework So they should have should have watched this movie Okay, no because I wouldn't say this is the best way to consume it This is just us trying to find ways to sort of go through topics and stuff, but It becomes clear That chat is not going to be able to hold it for much longer and it's cracking which means You got to get through that next door right now or we're fucked and uh not to mention that The wife is like a couple seats behind just watching them and chat realizes like oh shit. She's probably not going to want to leave me So you're gonna have to take her Yeah That's what he says before she goes as well because there was a bit early on the movie back when either the whole I made that Like seen uh with the wife mentions. He hasn't chosen a name Yeah, because apparently apparently it's a korean custom that the dad chooses the name Oh, okay Apparently it's something like that So basically as he's leading the wife away when he turns around and shouts out the name of the baby It's fucking off. I can't handle that scene. Oh, yeah, I can't big feels because oh, yeah, yeah He's been nothing but a good man throughout Yeah, and even says hey arsehole Yeah, uh, you think about how Protagonist left him for dead in the opening and at this point he's struggling to Save his own life because he knows it. Just he's gonna have to leave him behind It's like man, you pull that an arc. I guess What Yes, we should well just quickly discover that the most meaningful parts of this film They don't really do with the zombies necessarily. That's just the hook He's like come watch it for the zombies, but then you're like all these people though Yeah Yeah And uh going into this I didn't even know it was a zombie movie Oh, I I prefer that people wouldn't know just because it's a little bit fun to let the film introduce it It's own way, but yeah Yeah, um I mean it's it was uh, it's it's gotta be good for a hook right a lot of normal people would just be like I'll check on a zombie movie on a train. Let's do it. Um Yeah, she's dragged away and uh door smashes and he he still isn't out of chad moves yet He's still got one left He picks up a zombie after fucking punching a few of them out He picks up a zombie turns them sideways and just creates a barricade basically This is just like man, you're epic Who's a tank? Man's just a fucking if it was left for dead, he would turn into a tank like And yeah, uh, protagonist gets up to the door is helping push it and I think Um, the two there's two people on the other side of the door that are trying to pull people off And a couple of them realize how fucked up this is And so the door finally opens they get in And they close it right as uh chad's barricade falls apart And um, you can call that a victory. I suppose they get in And uh, we just get a really great moment of uh main character Just go and fucking nuts on the businessman being like the fuck's wrong with you. We could have saved him could have saved them Because uh, yeah, we also lose uh grandma sister as well Right, um It's a little logistically speaking it looks as if He grabs the the wife and the daughter But he's just too late to grab her or at least I think she's like you're not gonna have enough time to grab me And so she doesn't make any real effort. He just has to end up closing the door on her And yeah, none of that would have happened if they hadn't if they just let them in But there is an argument to say like You know, like if we like had a survival sort of situation with a bunch of people It would be like if if a bunch of randoms wanted to come in you do have to consider a lot of stuff Absolutely. Yeah, um I think but I think this is why this is so effective because you can relate to both sides In some way Yeah, it's just that we've been hanging out with these guys for so long that it's just an absurdity to us that you But if you would be in there, you don't really know what's happening Like you don't know how The disease, I guess is transmitted or everything It's like man, can we really it really take the risk and let them all in And then we're all infected ourselves like And yeah, it's uh, there's there's reason to it But there's also just crazy levels of paranoia and when he he like punches him and says you motherfucker He immediately is like he's infected. Look at him. You can see it his eyes And he's just looking at him like motherfucker Yeah Um, but yeah, uh, there's he does this little like speech And then the crowd is relatively silent and it pans and then you just hear a voice go like get the fuck out of here And the camera struggles in terms of like wait who said that and it's such a great sort of like moment of This is the crowd. This is the mob. They just want you gone. We don't even know who's specifically saying it But that's how they feel. They're all like Tearing up someone look like angry and very distrustful And so, um, I think our characters are just like at this point May as well just fucking not be with these people anyway Yeah, it's not worth it And yeah, you know, you got like a pregnant lady and a kid both crying their eyes out And there's just this shot where she's not even looking at them as she's crying the wife because it's like, oh, yeah She's probably thinking about Chad right now Yeah, yeah And so sorry sad Yeah, and I think hobo guys are the first one to be like, okay, fine. We'll go to the other cart It's probably the mo in he's probably the one who's most used to being told to go Oh, yeah, don't you think about that? Exactly Even in the apocalypse, no one wants no one likes the hobo I save people and everything love me Yeah, um, so they all move to the other cart. Uh, they close the door and What's interesting is the paranoia from this group of humans Means that they decide to Secure the door between them and the survivors before the door between them and the zombies They all work on making sure that the other survivors can't get to them Which to me Is like man, I feel like the film is saying like the Their attitude as being pieces of shit ends up being the reason that they die because the other door isn't secure yet And um A character who nobody's really paid any attention to Is quite upset that she just lost her sister because of that Um, and she's just having a little moment to herself about like you fucking idiot always helping people before yourself Which is I think what their relationship was from what we see That girl just looked out for the other one all the time She's like what was the point of that so stupid Yeah, even uh, yeah even earlier when they were deciding who gets to sit down on the chair One of them was like no you sit down you're older. You know that sort of thing And yeah, and she just looks on at the selection of people and they were all just fucking yelling at each other So I think she gets a vibe of you know what feeling a little bit nihilistic right now Like And uh, yeah businessman notices it just too late And she opens up the door and it just I think it just cuts to like Our survivors just hearing screaming and blood like just getting splattered across the door Because uh zombies are in Um And someone I just want to bring up now because I think it's kind of interesting Uh, we find out the the host and the businessman survive And I think on first viewing I was like, how did they do that? But What's interesting is uh, soon after the zombies attack they actually go through a tunnel smaller is robot and for me Not for me. Uh, he's not for me Not for me. That's only you roofs Um, well, yeah, I was just saying they go through a tunnel soon after that happens and so presumably a businessman and Host would have used that opportunity to get to the uh the restroom Sure, I just think it's neat to think about Super neat and so this was a part I think because at this point I'd seen like the first third before I decided to rewind and just watch it with ringing and I think at this point It's like man. It feels like we've had a whole movie now, but there's still a third of the film left Mm-hmm. I guess yes other stuff has got to happen Um, and so of course they are heading to Busan But uh, the tracks are fucked on like a I think it's just like a train yard before getting to Busan So they're gonna have to trade trains Yeah, and that seems like a relatively simple prospect, right? In theory, but nothing without an apocalypse. Nothing is simple And yeah, just pacing wise we just calm down for a bit and just accept the fact that things have gone to shit Um And something interesting happens We get a call from The guy who works underneath the main character and he Theorizes that it's a good chance that this infection originated with their company um And he like starts Whimpering on the on the phone saying like is this us was this our fault? And like this is just there's no way to be sure but uh, I felt like at this point the story was like Oh, man All the bloodsucker comments the leaving the week behind not helping them the Company itself in aid of becoming hyper successful has caused incredible damage to the world um And all of the things that have been happening in terms of like in a microcosm throughout this story Getting some big themetisms right now. There's a sacrifice and then Um, this is right after Chad has died to save all of them And our character starts washing the blood off his hands. Yep Joe's like theme And yeah, just trying to reconcile this is a situation he's in and there's also a little conversation he has with his daughter where she, uh He said she couldn't sing because she couldn't see him In relation to the recital And uh that she practiced the song just for him Because she's of course going to be changing her mind a little bit about him after the recent events All the things that he's done. Yep That's right some uh Things to keep in mind because I'll be relevant soon enough and then the yeah the train has a sudden stop Which is because they've reached the train yard and there's a fuck up on the track So now they got to switch trains and um our conductor is just looking for one that's viable Uh, well our main characters just get out and start looking around I think the interesting thing with the conductor Oh, go go for it. No you you go I was just gonna say something I like when the conductor is giving us speeches It's like you get the impression that he doesn't even know who he's giving it to at this point. Yeah, like Oh, yeah He's sort of saying it and he he's relaying the message But like the look in his eyes is almost like I don't actually know that there's anybody left But I need to do this anyway, you know, just just in case to let them out No, um Yeah, and we just revealed that uh, the two of them are definitely hiding in the um in the restroom So that is our totality of our characters. It's like, how will this play out? That's just another Neat thing to stay on the train theme We're still in the train yard have to change trains, but we here we go get a little change of color A little little new thing that's not inside of the train We just go outside for a little bit even though we're going back to another train They very much maintain the train Yeah, just try to sit train station train yard. It's like we just still changing it up Also, hi rex. Nice. Hello. Welcome back. Are we off the train? We're just yeah, we're just getting into the train yard now. So yeah Obviously panicked looking around Um, but the thing is all the doors are closed. So, you know what feeling pretty safe Yeah, I'm feeling feeling pretty good Uh, conductive manages to find while avoiding a couple of zombies The there is a train you can use much smaller one, but hopefully this one can get them the rest of the way Think things are looking up and um So we cut the businessman who looks out of the restroom and sees there's still plenty of zombies on There's still some that are pretty close too and um Close the door again and the host guy is like, so how's it looking out there? He's like clear we can do it. Yeah He doesn't have the most convincing face in the world I don't really know This is like, yes, it is clear and uh Yeah, I think you can see this coming Quite a mile away. It's like he's gonna push you Yeah And he does and it gives him the opportunity to get out and like the asshole he is he doesn't lock any doors behind him Or is not which means That wonderful selection of zombies is now going to be following him um Meanwhile, uh, the runaway train enters the uh the station and uh screws with I guess you could say like the Because this is the thing I think at this point it's not going to be coordination for like What trains should be coming in at what points? So there's gonna be crashes potentially, uh Even the conductor spots it. It's just like a train that's on fire crashes in and it separates high school people from the rest of our main characters And um, we do there the way they split this is we get their story first Which is they go to a try to get through a train. They open one door and the other door is stuck And so they have to just smash the glass with one of them handy little Glass smashes and unfortunately for them Uh businessman finds the same opportunity with them And he grabs the girl and throws her into the zombies to try and save himself Yeah, not even hesitation and uh High school kid doesn't see that that was the reality of the situation just that she's being bitten And so he gets the zombie off tosses him out closes the door While businessman finishes breaking the window and gets out And uh, this is the last of the high school people as in From his POV, I mean like, um And so he's absolutely losing his mind because that's all of them dead Well, I can't handle it Yeah He just sits there waits for her to turn And then she bites him Yeah Good people shitty ending because business would happen to bump into him Like this Simple as that Uh And yeah that he gets out and he spots the conductor with his uh with his train And uh, I mean I'm curious about I guess we'll explain that part first just find the visual for it. Yeah Yeah, but he's a great dude businessman That's a little bit over Yeah, I like the conductor guy as well. He always is kind of like let's stay as long as we can Let's you know help some more people get on Uh like, oh the the rail is blocked I gotta go out. I gotta find another train and get us another one. So it goes out and does that, you know I like the conductor a lot. I I was being ironic when I said the businessman, but yes the conductor is a great guy. Um He sees businessman and businessman steps on Either a rail or a stone wrong and so he falls over and conductor decides i'ma i'ma go save him Because these are nice dudes and the second he tries it businessman tosses him into the zombies to try and give himself more time Yeah, um, but the zombie jumps in in a way that he's on top of the conductor, but bites businessman It's not quite clear, but you definitely see a reaction from him and I think you hear a sound cue as well Um, but then he immediately goes for the conductor No help from business when he immediately just goes to the train Another in his kill count It's just like fuck sake He's a real piece of work And ducked it down and yeah, what's cool about um Main characters is the our guy was knocked out for a little bit But when he wakes up he's just got a pane of glass between him and just loads of zombies because of the way that the train is fallen Um, it's just interesting visual from to wake up to I guess So, um, it just sneaks out of the bottom Like yeah, this will be easy, but there's a obviously with the train being damaged Uh parts of it fall and it blocks the entrance and so we've not He needs time to be able to move that before he can get anyone else out and um Just it's just Watching at this point having the businessman storyline versus protagonist storyline of the differences in terms of everyone's actions We get a obviously this was just killing everybody to get further and further while the glass smashes on one of the sides and because We're basically dealing with a child a pregnant lady and hobo man so When you go that many zombies heading towards you, uh Yes, because he's been pretty self-preservationy. Mr. Hobelman at this point in the story up to this point even But um, I think he realizes as much as many people would either all three of them dial. He does yeah And so he decides to put himself in the way Also kind of returning to favor I guess to yeah, he's been saved a couple of times in this storyline So he saves them this time And it's uh, that's something people Except for the businessman asshole Yeah And yeah, there's a there's just a great little moment where the kid goes through and before The the wife finishes going through she just shares a look with with hobelman because It's it's obviously his he's the reason they're alive and he's not going to make it Look down. Yeah um Yeah, which means we're really down to four characters now Fucking everybody's getting slaughtered. Yeah, I'm sure that'll be fine, right? Right There's been loads of f's in the chat because just so many people died so quickly F's for everyone paying all the respects Um And yeah, there's just this this wonderful little shot that I think was going to be used for promotional stuff too With it trying to get to the train while an army of zombies is sprinting behind them Yeah, it's neat And uh, they do get on But a couple of zombies grapple onto it and then grow out zombies grapple onto them and then zombies grapple onto them And we get something that I don't think I've ever seen before it is like a blanket of zombies that is attached to the train Um, oh and they do a little the water falling thing again I think they did that to explain how our characters are managing to consistently outrun them Oh, yeah, because obviously they're both going to be slowed by pregnancy and holding someone else, but Um, yeah, they're just building this huge thing following them and uh This is cool But I have seen you guys reverent where like one of the zombies starts to like jump over the whole blanket like Fucking demon thing. It's just like coming toward him and he just dodges it And he fligs into like one of the metal stoppers for like Just fucking slabs into it. It's just like oh, there he goes I think the sound effects again, oh, yeah um Yeah, you know, um, we get the happy ending he kicks off the zombies and uh that's that credits All right. Oh, well, that's not what happened. What what do you mean? You're lying. You're lying right now No, you're lying. You're the liar well Um, I thought that that was actually potentially the ending um, that he's gonna That it won't be hard to defeat conductory man in some way shape or form But it wouldn't cost because like these three together. I feel like there's a whole story you can tell with that as well, but That's a different story to tell this one ends with That it's quite neat as well because he sees his skin Meaning like oh shit zombie closed door on him done, but he's not turned yet So he just awkwardly opens the door like hey mister. I ain't feeling so good Yeah It's like god damn it and you because you're not gonna jump off You're not gonna do that Well, no, this is and this is the most human he gets as a character He basically just says like I just want to get back to my mom. Yeah, mom. Yeah It's like oh, he is a person. He's a real bad person, but yeah He's a human being. He was a fried. He's yeah Um, because yeah, presumably he was bitten quickly on some part of him, but uh, he yeah But he they have a bit of a back and forth until I quite like it when he he realizes that he's the zombie And he's like crying and he looks down and it's just long enough to be like wait He then he's goes. He's like, oh fuck It comes the inconsistent transformation times thing Uh, maybe with this one This one seems a bit longer than the other ones for sure I don't know that it changes much of anything. He just gets to talk for a little bit where he wouldn't have before We just don't know how long he's been sitting there I'm trying to think of Uh If you remember Chad actually became he had like paylice before he became a zombie He's there for a little bit And uh, that's the same for our main character and for um, uh, businessman. So I think Relatively consistent. I think it's fine. Yeah, I'd have to check. I think it's fine. I think it's okay He's not there over multiple scenes and stories Like in I don't know resident evil for example. It's the first one. It pops to mind Fuck there's no way you can make a consistent ruling with the resident evil Yeah Just when they when they get bitten in the middle and they just die at the end or to get turned at the end Um, but yeah, this fight scene just a microcosm of the whole film's like philosophy basically, uh he's attacked and um, then I think his daughter screams and that distracts the zombie and he goes for the hit And then he like tries to like, whoa, no, no, no and gets him back and He's close to being killed and then the wife tries to help him. But then the zombie goes for here and um From what I could tell it was on the second watch too that I I think this is what's happening I think protagonist decides to um, if I get him To like because he puts his hand on his mouth And I think he uses that as like a yeah just chew on that for a minute And I can move you into position to get you away And I I assume it was a decision of like I ain't risking those two I think so maybe yeah But yeah, um This is by the way, I thought that the girl was fine in the whole movie But it's the round about this point the film where she becomes a better actress than most people who are working today Yeah, she's excellent. Yeah. Yeah, really is the second. She sees him bitten She's already reacting as though he's dead, which is just like obviously she understands how this works Um, but yeah fling's businessman off And uh, it's just sad for us an audience because you're like, oh man Here we go When I watched this whole scene. I was on the edge. I was like, I don't want him to get bitten or die I I wanted him to live. I like this character He's come so far. You know, yeah He became a better person everything And then he gets bitten and you're like, no you Bastards made me care about the character in the movie you fucks I forgot how it felt like yeah Also, uh The james had people bitten on the leg slash hand do turn slower only exception being the teen The thing about the teen if he's talking about the girl, she's bitten on the thigh But she's bitten for a certain like a decent amount of time Like I don't know you could be like you could just argue that it chomped into that thigh, you know So, uh, you get a little bit of room with zombie stuff I think you just have to however long it takes we'll be correlating with the significance of the bite unless it's like a blatant contradiction I'm mostly okay with it Uh, if there's wiggle room and stuff And um, it's not overly inconsistent. Oh, oh god. We're losing everyone Oh my god Can me me me mell and dan can we do this can we bring it home? Let's hope we can Yes Uh, so and now I forgot what I was saying. So just go on ahead Well, there's some things about as well like uh, was that the best strategy and it's like, I don't know It's a stressful environment and I think like I said my take is that he commits to Uh, sacrificing himself to make sure those two survive Yeah It's also as well as like he's not a fighter. Remember, he's a fund manager. He's He's not a big buff guy. He doesn't know how to fight like there was There was so many opportunities where all he had to do was sort of grab the guy by the scruff and throw him over the railing Yeah, and it could have like easily done it But again, he's not a fighter. So he probably just doesn't know that shit But obviously like him sacrificing himself is obviously like the smart thing to do Yeah, I think he stays on the train. Then he'll just kill the women in jail I think he's just a guarantee to him that um They're safe unless his main goal Especially the with the pressure he's got from chad having died for him to be in this position in the first place um So when I really love When he's gotten rid of him is he immediately starts trying to work with the like he needs to make it so that they can definitely keep going And if you look the the daughter immediately wants to go to him The wife is like already looking at him like he's a zombie Because of just the nature of this whole thing and I just think it's just really good stuff in terms of she's already like petrified of him Um But yeah, he uh, he just quickly figures out like you just need to hit the break when you're in a position that you're gonna need it And um, I think even like when he sits her down to look at it She's just scared of him the whole time It's a great dynamic change because he was the one person protecting her the whole time And now she's like terrified of him because he's a zombie at any moment now Um And yeah, when he says goodbye to the daughter, holy shit Yeah, she's going for it. I don't know where they found that child. I don't know But she's so good They straight up It's like having an adult in a child to be acting because like it's just uh, it's pretty heartbreaking watching it Basically say goodbye to him. She's like damn dude and well, she doesn't even want to she um He's gripping him and he has to pull your hand off Which um, you know, just we got that it's like a reflection of the beginning of this being that she was Desperate to get to the mum even if it means like just ditching him At this point he has to ditch her for her own safety Because the little adventure they've been on um Yeah, I don't know. It's just he's running out of time so uh Closes the door in here and uh the wife grabs her as well And there's just this shot where she's just losing her shit while trying to make sure the child doesn't actually get to him before he changes And it's just tragedy all around, you know Yeah, it's a big sad I was saying this is um Before I cut out there So this is kind of like the opposite of a series like I don't know maybe Final destination where when it comes to the characters, you're just like oh shut up just fucking die Yeah, we'll see the we've we've watched so many zombie movies We're not only do we want some characters to die, but then you have like an army of the dead where it's like will they make it? I'm like, I don't care. Like why would I care? They just horrible all of the horrible people and I barely know any of them. It's like whatever But uh, man these characters don't want any of them to die um and yeah, I mean uh, he Goes to the edge of the train and as he's turning he's just thinking about The the birth of his child. Oh, that's fucking heartbreak in that But that that whole bit is fucking heartbreaking Yeah, yeah, he smiles right before dropping himself off the train Because you know what he's probably at peace with the fact that he did fucking great And uh, it's all about sacrifice And the thing is um, funnily enough, I don't know about you guys, but when I was watching the film I thought it was gonna end there I was like, I don't know how you get a better ending than that because that just seems to complete the film Yeah, yeah, that's where I thought it would end too And I think after everything that they'd all been through like oh, they're just sitting there on that fucking train What the fuck happened to them and everything like we just so I think after like all of the struggle There would need to be like some kind of at least a hint towards a resolution Well, so this is the thing for me. I was like, I can assume that they made it or whatever And so I was curious what they were gonna do I was very fucking happy with the with the ending So they realized that the way is blocked in a tunnel that's uh, I'm pretty sure they're just basically at Busan at this point And so they get out And they're heading into like this Horrifically dark tunnel with a bunch of corpses on the outside of it with one of them like even jitters Because there's zombies. Yeah And so I think when I was first watching I was just like god damn it There's probably zombies in that tunnel. Please don't do this to me You cannot end this film with those two getting killed that would be fucked Like it's not fair Um But the environment here that we realize is that these zombies are dead on the edge of the tunnel because anything that the approach gets sniped by the uh The military that are on the other side. You're like, oh, okay But there's a moment of you can't quite tell necessarily with silhouettes whether or not these these people are zombies or not And so um, they get the go ahead to you know for safety just execute them. Don't risk it But what comes to save the day is the song that she couldn't sing Because the the idea here being that the dad may be dead, but he's always going to be with her Yep, and yeah, they hear the song and so they're like, nope, they're definitely not zombies If you remember as well the film closes out with her singing it and again, it's just like, where did you find her? What the fuck? Child, what are like, what do you tell kids? Like to so that so that they they're acting but they don't think about the fact they're acting too much and I don't know Natural It's where the god she's maybe I don't know as korea. You've heard of it with the kpop stands. They probably like legitimately made the child cry They beat her like slapped her You will deliver an amazing performance all the beatings will continue Well, you know what we have to make some sacrifices with great Sacrifice that's what's so powerful about it. You're gonna be a star don't you That's trained to boost on Yeah Very good Just fully recommend one of the best zombie movies ever great character. Yeah, that was really impressive really well paced Really fun environments. Yeah intelligent decisions made by people based on just really interesting information that they acquire through very dynamic and natural ways Um It's just filmed very competently. I just don't don't like the soundtracks fucking Banging to go with a lot of the action scenes in different parts and then yeah the actors man Just bringing that script to life. So How long was this movie because it felt long but not in a bad way Oh, yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on, you know It was chunky like you you get through a sequence and you're like, man, that was that was quite the meal and it's like it's not over Oh boy Absolutely good stuff Nice to see something good once in a while And yeah, the uh pleased with that movie the actor for chad is going to be one of the main Eternals in a new mcu movie. You guys excited Oh Why would you tell me this This is something I definitely want to talk to to dachler about you excited for the american remake of this film No, it's gonna be absolute shit. There's like, oh, we're gonna be there's literally no need to make it We already have the film. I know like we already have it just fucking just watch it Like I don't understand like basically you know that they made a train to busan too and it was fucking terrible That's what I've heard. Yeah, uh, I don't intend to watch it because no one's recommending it Yeah, it's it's like the first 15 minutes Is quite good where you're sort of thinking oh shit. Oh, this this this might actually this may actually be pretty good but then After that it just gets ridiculous. There's like There's dumb stuff in it where it's sort of like mad max people are still living in like south korea And all that and there's even like there's like a 10 year old girl who it turns out like she's a fucking Absolutely amazing driver in her little mad max car like Pulling donuts through alleyways and shit and it's stupid It's it's stupid and it's it's not good at all. So we went from pretty grounded to completely over the top Yeah, over the top and like like just dumb It was it's like it's a dumb movie. I mean if you just want like a dumb action movie, like it's fine But I mean it's I realized that obviously like train to busan is a fucking really hard fucking thing to follow Right, it would be really really hard for them to like I mean it can be done I mean the raid Fucking did it. They made a sequel better than the original and the original was fucking superb But like, yeah, it's almost like it was made by like Someone who just did not have the exact same vision as like train to busan. It was it was really bad Like they even have like this whole scene where they have like a zombie Colosseum and And it's to get the status. Yes It's get the standard like mad max shit where like everyone's wearing leather and they have tattoos and mohawks and like Yes, it's crap You basically you won't be getting this again. You'll get something completely fucking different But they're in the same frame. It's like a clover field sort of situation. I'm guessing Where yeah, it'd be like this is part of the franchise, but if you like the first one no guarantees There is like a good bit at the start where It breaks it. I didn't look up anything about the movie I didn't look up and I just wanted to like go and eat and watch it and there was a part I believe at the start with her on a boat And like the an outbreak happens on the boat and it actually did look quite good during that point But then the gist of the story is It fast forwards time and they're all living in china That's where like a shit tonne like south korean refugees are all they all are and they all get treated like shit and everything They're because you know other fucking foreigners and all this type of fucking thing, but then The premises they get hired by like the chinese triads because There's a there are basically everyone left south korea in a hurry So there's a there's like a bank that has a bunch of gold still in the vault and like it was it not was a truck There was a truck delivering a shit tonne of golden cash and they've they've put together a team To go out and then like extract it and everything and like one one person in the team is literally like this fucking 50 year old woman And it's like, okay Is she like demolition's expert or an electronics expert or something and that's why she's getting brought along now She's just an old woman like That's like nothing to her at all You know it is it's yeah, it's it's fucking stupid. Did it's quite shit like I will admit like the old's like War veteran grandfather guy. He was he was a pretty good character. He was funny But apart from that and that was shit and it is and you did not give a single fuck about any of the characters Like you genuinely didn't care if you can just get people caring about even one person It can rescue the movie just having one person the way like Kind of like like if you if you had chad but in a kind of a shitty movie But he was still like a really good person doing interesting things. It's like you can rescue it a little bit but Yeah, like so many movies we've watched lately with it's just like no redeemable people and barely any people in general because their character Is so shittily Yeah, because like you know, um, we we kind of talked about it as we were talking there, but just if someone wants to draw back like uh, the high schooler He's like aggressively helpful when he thinks he can save lives, but when he realizes they're dead He just freezes consistently throughout And like someone might be like well what what and it's just He is a person at that point. He's consistent. That's how he behaves and uh It just gets me to bully it'll really help with immersion I would say is one of the main things instead of it just being like anything might happen He might say anything because he's just anybody depending on what we need for the scene um now I have I have something else to curse you all with oh my goodness So um someone made a good breakdown, I guess of how good the movie is Oh, and then they were like I'm also going to do a breakdown of how bad it is Oh And I think the idea is I'm going to do cinema sins format on train to Busan And so what's confusing about this video and I've seen people talking about it in the discord already You can't tell so he'll like label criticisms But you but you like but he's called it a spoof. And so you're like so is Are you criticizing it or not being real? A spoof, okay And so like the conclusion I got when I was looking at it was just he does believe these things Could be considered flaws, but they don't matter that much to him. So they think that's what we're supposed to go in with I'm not sure um Yeah, uh, you just click the old wash together link. It's only uh, it's it's honestly by e-fap standards This is a short video that we're gonna be looking at. Um Getting the audience to care about a single character could save a bad movie But waller, I thought you hated the last of us too. They fucking killed him in the first two minutes All right, um water I'll be right back Free will be back at any moment. No worries. He's gonna love this video too. I'm sure of it But um Well, you know, while he's getting that water Dang, what what movies do you think that I I should check out the in the same way I should have checked out train to Busan that I probably haven't heard of Um, but mostly like Korean recommendations like Memories of murder I thoroughly enjoyed Because it's the whole did he didn't he and everything and Which does kind of get ruined when the actual killer like handed himself in and it was me by the way I'm like Gloting about it and shit, but there's another one. I can't remember what it's called. I think it's called identity Or something I'll double check, but it's basically a guy the the premise of the story is it's called forgotten. That's what it's called a guy thinks that Basically, this premise of the story is is a brother gets kidnapped and then three weeks later his brother Mysteriously reappears like he sees his brother getting kidnapped, but he can't get to him in time He gets piled into a van and fucking taken away Uh And he notices things about his brother. Well, he's not acting the same and he starts to get this whole Someone this isn't my brother. This is someone else Right pretending to be my brother and The path the movie goes down is just it fucks with your head. It's really good. I really enjoyed that one um The wailing is Quite fucked up that's sort of based on like old like korean superstition about witches and wizards and demons and shit like that And it is a it is a bit of a supernatural one, but one of the most Fucked up ones, which is brilliant is I saw the devil. I saw the devil is There's so much stuff in it. The way that they put it out is basically like, uh There's serial killers all over like south korea and like each serial killer sort of has like their thing Like their technique the thing that they do like one guy's a cannibal And all that and like the guy who's actually played by the same guy that played old boy Um, he likes young girls and he likes to rape them. Yeah, this is this movie's got two rape scenes two rape scenes, isn't it? and uh, but the serial killers all like know each other And like shit and they like hang out and stuff like that but basically the serial killer targets the wrong person and it turns out that the The women that he killed her husband's like this ex black ops special forces guy Who knows how to find the killer but instead of killing him He like tortures him just at random periods like the killers just trying to go about his business and do his thing And then this black ops guy will turn up and does like horrific fucking shit to Like really bad things and then he just leaves and then it's funny because you've got the serial killer screaming like leave me alone Leave me alone and all that shit man, but uh, but there's a scene in it. I'm not going to say what happens, but uh the the scene in the taxi When he gets when he gets picked up as a hitchhiker like watch the movie just for that scene because It goes on for way longer than it fucking has to Right, but like in a good way Like I would I highly recommend I saw the devil definitely fucking watch that 31 years ago and I recommend it in here as well. So we should say that we should watch it So I saw a few from chat said uh old boy the hose the raid films in parasite I have seen all of them because i'm a good boy and I have seen some of these things Um I watched the whole so watch spike lee's old boy. What a great film No, shut up Is that like an american remake or something? Yes, I did American remakes are shit. It's a rule. I don't know why they do them Like has there ever like been like an absolute bang in american remake? I want the fucking one the people reference And that's usually the ring. That's usually the one of the better ones. Uh, I forget who I mean to touch on the thing of why they do it There are people who are like, I'm not reading the subtitles for squid game. I watch the dub. I speak english So I don't know There is this thing. There's a market for it. Um, yeah, there is unfortunately Yeah, govabinsky. Um people often say like the ring original is still better, but the the american version wasn't that bad Um, that's I think that was before a time when people like massively consumed eastern content No Uh, people are mentioning magnificent seven because it's based on seven samurai if that counts Um, well, so, um, interesting thing about that Um, I wasn't unforgiven based on uh somewhat based on unforgiven's original and there was a korean remake Oh, right. I see which is all the opposite. Wow I don't want to say it could have been japanese or whatever. I'm not 100% sure because I didn't look too far into it But Ken Watanabe is with samurai. You got a You got a story Yeah, um, and I kind of want to watch it, uh Because um, I just want to see how they interpret unforgiving Yeah, it's called unforgiving it came out in 2013 and um, like I said, Ken Watanabe is the main character Oh boy So that'd be cool. Yeah, I I have no idea how good it is. It's just really interesting that They remade Clint Eastwood's movie, you know, it was just like, oh man, that's cool. Yeah Um, all right. Well, uh, if you want to you got the link of any free. So, uh, just to give you a brief Cinema sins but not from cinema sins for train to Busan Which apparently is kind of a spoof The thing is well, the problem with that as I've already understood it how you tell it Yeah, yeah, the problem with it is the If if I say like I'm gonna pretend to be a lumberjack and then I chopped out a tree Like so you're still doing the thing. I don't know. So like It's not the jokes on you. I'm pretending to be retarded. It's like adjacent to that Jokes on you. I did the thing I don't know Cut it down lumberjack jokes on you. Oh my god, that is loud. Yeah Duh Although someone in chat's asking about true grit and yes, yes, I do think the remake of true grit was really good Uh, that was I think true gets a remake of a another american movie Uh, yeah by the same name Well, I think we were talking about the um, like the the the the international remakes. Maybe this is a rabbit hole Maybe true grid is a remake of another movie. I mean, maybe if oh, I didn't know I thought that the the one with uh, john wane I think I thought that was the original. Maybe i'm wrong. It is based on the 1961 novel of the same name So I suppose um, yeah, because I know the magnificent seven was based off seven samurai and I actually like the one they did a few years back. I enjoyed that one so um With this video, by the way, I just want to keep in mind I'm pretty sure this person loves the movie But he has found flaws that he wants to point out I'm assuming and that's where he decided to make like the cinemas in style video. So we'll just see what Sure, it's 15 16 minutes Rags, have you been to eva before we've covered like fucking hour long remember the hour and 10 minute video lord rings We got through it though Wow, you sure are a parody of cinemas in You've already nailed it Now the virus started one of those it's up to your own interpretation type things Why is that a why how's that a sin then? I don't even know I guess yeah, because that's that's a cinema things moment right there Yeah, I guess sorry they they both do it Winds and sins. Yeah Uh minor leak from anything that has bio in its name usually isn't just nothing Um, wait, what a minor leak from anything with bio in it can't be nothing. What that's not true You could have a minor biological hazard Minor leak from the bio diesel factory that will just kill some plants. What if someone just had a piss? It's like this bio. Yeah, I was about to say that's a bio and leak There's a leak from my bio deck Probably nothing to worry about I'm not here foreshadowing How hard is it to grab your phone? Do you just have short arms that you just can't reach it? Or did the plot demand you hit this deer while distracted? So I mean it just looked as if it was just out of his reach Yeah, yep. Yeah, you had to lean over. Yeah. Oh try and get it I mean and people hit fucking random wildlife a lot. That's just common. Yeah Yeah, I'm an architect here. I know I'm asking a bit early But does it kill you or does it turn you into a rabies like creature? You are asking early You're asking very early So this alien it just like what lives in people's chests and then what does it have to believe or something? Like I don't get it. There's only come out at breakfast time. I don't get it I like it when they do the the mindless speculation like what am I supposed to believe about this that there's a ghost puppeteering them? Like what what's happening? From a hit like that Hard to take this intense scene with the intense music so seriously when a smoky idea is looking at me so adorably Isn't this ain't adorable. I thought that that was the juxtaposition. It's a chill deer, but look at it It's covered in blood. I just got pale eyes. It's like yeah, that's creepy. Yeah I'm supposed to make the victim incredibly aggressive. Why is this deer so nonchalant about? No, there's always consistent Yeah, there's no target. So they're just looking. Yeah, yeah, so they just hang around Just getting hit by a car. Did it just turn? Yeah, you just watched it You just watched it a thing It could have been that it was thought with your eyeballs Could have been that it was bitten and then hit by the car and that turned it or it could have been that It was already turned and it got hit by the car either works. So Placement pardon my pronunciations But siaku despite seeing what a pr in environmental nightmare The biotech leak has become that he sells all of the funding to them Establishing him as a typical dickhead businessman. Why is that a flaw? That's the movie that's the point Okay, this is so weird the cinema things again, I don't know. All right Further foreshadowing I was about Why are you sitting there? That's not really foreshadowing. That's like saying, hey, it's my daughter's birthday tomorrow And then tomorrow This was foreshadowed that it was the daughter's birthday. I see what you did there for very clever There will be repercussions that foreshadows only repercussions Yeah, if you shoot that guy in the head, it will kill him. That's foreshadowing for when he shoots him in the head and kills him It's a I mean it might qualify as foreshadowing. It's just like, okay You were Send the movie for the father giving her a Wii and not a Wii U in 2016 But looked up that nintendo never released the Wii U in korea But he could have been more up to date and gotten his daughter a 3ds to show his more materialistic love dad Still You highlighted that they did a good job Yeah, you hot exactly Because I didn't even know that I I just I assumed that you won't yeah, so I don't know the film just got better Thanks to this video And you're just knew that they didn't release it in south korea. You think that they would Yeah, but how connected they are and plugged in there If we product placement convenient the kid kim so won kept the console's box to make this scene emphasize How much I used to do as a kid. I really like the boxes Um, yeah, I kept my console box In case I needed to move it or you know that weird and they have nice graphics on them a lot of the time Father doesn't pay attention or give his daughter the time of the day I I know sewan prefers to be with her mother since her dad is an untrustworthy workaholic But she really is driving a dagger into her father's heart How's that a sin? I don't understand. I don't understand You're just describing the film. He's describing events to take place. It's like sin. Oh, look. It's night time The amount of foreshadowing in this movie is through the roof conveniently time Yeah, whatever you start you have to finish foreshadowing said like i'm confused at the dynamic Vehicles to suddenly stop the protagonist as he is casually driving to show that something is going on cliche What This something is going on cliche That's probably the best None of this shit and just a woman jumped on the train and started biting people. You'd have been like what the what why There was nothing to set this up. What the fuck sin what would have done instead It was he would have went there was absolutely no suggestion that a zombie apocalypse was going on. Oh another sin Well, I'm like damned if he did damned if he didn't fucks sake Girls that way he's just observing things that happen That would be cool though if you had a zombie movie where you kind of establish a character or two or three And then just boom zombies. There's no setup for it whatsoever. It's just from their perspective That's what it would be just boom zombies all of a sudden It just hits like a freight train out of nowhere to be fair That's um, what the the main character experience is right like He has no reason to assume anything like we get a lot of uh little bits here and there and we're like But he's just like why are people eating each other? What the fuck? Yeah I don't understand the scarf. I don't know. Oh wait. Sorry. What was that? Maybe that's just what the guy thinks that of us. It's does. I don't know. It's maybe weird at that point, I guess It's so confusing because like it's just what valley was the video at that point is going on cliche No, shit, I don't understand the scarf thing. How is she supposed to wear it quarter past two? I mean the way that she did it Listen if karilla taught me anything it's that fashion makes no fucking sense. Yes This playful banter is delightful enough for me to take off a sin So you are this is why I get really confused Now like about what you're going for because you just make observations better Well, I guess it's just you're like, oh, this is really good. So I'm gonna take a sin off It's like so this other thing is really like other stuff Yeah, like that's why I'm confused She'd be saying that that that that female actress looks like she's been stung by a lot. I like this as a female I'm not in 20. It's not in 2021. I'm not I suppose it's true She uh makes me think that she could have been cast when she was younger as one of the creepy girls in a horror movie She's got that kind of face But especially the hair as well was like, you know, you could have been the the spooky girl that climbs stairs backwards or whatever That's what they do in this Except it this guy sucks at his job He almost deliberately allows a loudly gasping woman to enter the train right behind him without proper clearance um I don't know What so like if she was waiting for him to turn before she went in then That's what happened so that she could get in without having a ticket So considering that she sort of lingers on the door um, and how she just runs past I'm gonna film that better. I would have filmed that better. I feel I feel like yeah, it's a bit of a stretch that he didn't notice Maybe I don't know. He turned he turned because of the noise though, right? Did he allows a loudly gasping woman to enter the train? No, I think he's just checking. I think he's just looking Well, yeah In my mind, it was just like, oh, he probably heard it And it was just thinking someone just got on the train last second. I guess I don't know I think you just making sure there's people who know making sure there's no one out there. He still wants to board I mean, you you have I would just go like in triathlons then you just have to believe that he would he just didn't notice He was just like, huh And without proper clearance The only little girl in the train sees that freaky shit taking was in front of her window like the other I don't know. It's just like, yeah Mine, it can drive us again. Like that's that's pretty chill. I don't know another sent off for these gnarly special effects This girl is having an so you are taking sins off for things that you think are good But also adding sins for things that he thinks are good I get the feeling that you I get the feeling the man mates might be taking the pest But cinema sins does this and wins they do this unironically How they operate it's really difficult to figure out what the fuck's that because this is a thing if Why it's such a frustrating format if they like highlight any plot all at some point I'd be like, so is it wanted if he went no, I was just joking. I'd be like, what the fuck They could attack and no one is checking on her or asking what's wrong So the well at that point the nearest people in earshot Might just hear a bit of a disturbance. I don't know that that's enough to make people go like, excuse me, babe. Are you all right? Do you have the shits or do I need the doctor? Um, because what it leads them to the hobo one is he sees the businessman's soul hobo go in there So The issues of the homeless man quietly stowing away in the restroom before confronting the notice of Again, wasn't he He saw him go in he said like he was uh, yeah This is different nobody saw her go in more louder and sick woman Two adults allow a kid to just sit there and gawk at a very unstable looking man This could be traumatizing or well, so none of them believe he's a threat. They just think he's a weird dude. Yeah. Yeah But come on man, I'm not even sure it's not even clear that the host guy knows that girl is there yet You see the views I don't think so. Yeah And uh, the idea that businessman would care to like protect this little girl It's like you probably just give a fuck what we need to learn about him later. Yeah The guy couldn't I'm surprised he's not shoving her in Attack the hobo go there eat this go away We know later on the homeless guy is nice and all but is no one concerned about the safety of the kid I don't think so. I think there's like this is a there's a homeless man who's in the fucking thing You shouldn't be here. Stop it This poor slowly turning woman casually jerkingly walks through a whole train car veins popping out looking like an erratic bubble I don't think you can see her legs from where you'd be sitting unless you were looking just look at them Proud of her weird face Other than that, she's just she is acting weird and I feel like you probably might get people being like, what the okay I ain't touching. I think the thing is though is a lot of people would just be like, yeah, I don't want to deal with that Yeah, she's walking away from me. She's gonna be someone else's problem in a moment. So yeah junkie away from me Ew junkies belly And no one in the train car pays her any mind or turns around well, we I don't know that we know She might have gotten some looks But that'd be about it. I don't know what else I'd have to rewatch the scene again. I can't remember specifically Well, I just don't know the Like say say for example, you were sitting there ranks and you saw her wibbling by making weird head movements What do you do seeing when you see that? I mean if she's just walking past I'm just sort of Throwing my brows and looking at her weird and just kind of watching her go I would like if I was with a friend, I probably know just gonna be like, what the fuck is she doing? Yeah, I think she's drug. I don't know Yeah, that's what I'd assume that she was like on a on drugs or something or she was I don't know. Um, I don't know I'm not assuming that she's a dangerous zombie that needs to be pacified Yeah, you know I'm just saying I'm just saying I've I've been at parties and I've seen girls like that and I usually end up fucking them I've seen weird people on trains before as well. I'm just like Just stay away from me. You can go ahead and do your thing Fuck them The two approaches the two options Interbussy Even once she literally slams her head into the wall and falls to the ground still no concern from the passengers That that could have been enough. Yeah to make someone go like, whoa, what just happened? And if you look down you'd see someone's on the floor Um, so you know potentially, yeah, um, you just have to believe that it didn't alert anybody that sound or enough to make them Check anyway. Mm-hmm. I'm with a train that's moving Um, you do hear a lot of clanking sounds No, I don't know. Yeah, you just have to believe that nobody decided to check that Attendance here. We introduced the third man. I would go gay for right after Steven Tyler and Danny DeVito We're gonna take a sin off for making a character that isn't a total generic Hollywood asshole Brad Pitt. I am beyond it. What? But the other one's Brad Pitt in world war z was not a generic asshole. He was just generic He was generic hero, man. Does Brad Pitt typically play asshole characters. He's much more generic. I don't know He's well. Unfortunately. He often just gets generic hero man when he's a lot more versatile than that Yeah, and um, I guess the problem is if you if it's like assholes, it's like I don't know Most of the people in this are pretty good people. Um, yeah, they just get killed Because Irritated at this point when it comes to this infected girl still no one notices her and until an attendant is casually going between cars Well, I mean, it's not that long after she falls that she's noticed by her. Yeah. Yeah And plus I don't think the people who could who are facing her in the next train over or the car over They might not be able to see with the hallway and where the seats are positioned. I I just I'm now probably notice. Yeah, and who would be that and it's like most likely people going through right now Probably the hostess and hosts and stuff. Just so that seems that seems natural. They would be here the notices. Yeah What kind of reeducation are we talking about here golden girl? Of course the one-time assistance is critically needed over a dying woman. The walkie-talkie starts Hold on They they did like I would not whenever you hear about like dictatorships in korea. Everyone thinks of the north, but I think from the 70s in fact, I think it was from the 60s through to the 80s like south korea was under a dictatorship It was and yes people well I mean there's there's a lot of history there Yeah, from what I understand it was like there was a point when south korea then started overtaking north korea in terms of productivity And um, I didn't know what to do with his comment. You know, I don't know. Yeah, because it's her perspective Yeah, he's saying they look what what kind of re-education are we talking about? Well the re-education south korea dead in fact Yeah, that's what I mean. It's like what kind of re-education that's a flaw. It's like what The character thinks that like that's her perspective and that's thing about a wall what came to wall Because it gets the thing on sorry don't have a flyer around here somewhere. I'm sorry It gets the same results as like all the other stuff So it just like is it odd par tips of I fucking yeah, it's just hard to understand. That's all walkie-talkie starts mysteriously acting up Mine is another sin for helpful Acting up doesn't have any consequences regardless. She's facing that way. She's waiting for someone to come in And if you remember the realization this person's gotten back up just has a freeze regardless So I think if Because the impression I'm getting here is he's saying like because the walkie-talkie fucked up She wasn't having her eyes on the body. Thus she gets herself bitten But if you remember she has a several seconds of seeing the zombie while she's like a meter away from it She still ends up dying because she's frozen in fear Freaking creepy the scene is and how gut wrenching that neck snap is Yes, seriously the sound effects and this really help out the zombies Yeah, why does this specific zombie take so long to attack later on they don't hesitate to bite another victim Lots of them have different reaction times I think what you have to conclude at that point is it's literally between the zombies there's different levels of immediate aggression, I guess Yeah, yeah, probably they're not all exactly the same. Yeah, they don't they don't like all animals all predators They're not going to behave exactly the same some will be You know faster than others more aggressive than others Yeah, and um again like her slower reaction time of a few seconds doesn't change the fact that the hostess dies This petite woman can walk through a crowded train car having her neck bitten into by a jockey No problem before collapsing in front of everyone. Thanks for picking a great spot to die and reanimate to infect others Late people main to their own business. I just like the idea that's like you selfishly chose to die in a bad place Like i'm sorry How long is the infection rate anyways the attendant immediately turns But the stowaway girl is able to get in the train walk Well, she was bitten in the neck. So I have to presume that that's And she was chomping into it for a while like oh, yeah It might be she might Maybe she died and once you die you instantly come back up. Well, maybe that was yeah like the deer I think that's a uh, it's just death means you become zombie But if you like scratched with a tooth on your toe Probably takes a much longer Your car have an uninterrupted seizure before fully turning Is it the location of the bite that factors into this? I guess we'll find out later The zombie getting a five finger discount strangely gives up on the guy to either intimidate or attack others Don't they wait till they have fully killed their victim before moving on to the again That's no they all have different like sort of priorities They can get distracted by noises if they think that a new target is just Pressure it could be anything because these these creatures are pretty mindless I don't because like trying to draw one definitive rule about how they will eat and move on I don't know. It just feels like the it's a bit restrictive considering how wild these things are Yeah, what happened to this guy's eye and how did it get that swollen in the span of the 20 seconds? His neck was getting bitten into Wound It's just a weird one. Yeah, like I don't know exactly why the eye specifically look what a weird thing to call it on Okay, the fastest conversion rate yet literally turns the second the girl gets off of him. No, he turns the second. He's dead Yeah What are we doing? This really feels weird like I mean, but okay, all I'm learning is the film holds up pretty well The only similarity between this movie and world war z the crowded zombie effect Two extra sins for making me think of that horrible Brad adaptation Well All right Don't make me think of world war z. I guess Okay, otherwise you movies bad This woman is getting nodded to with the couple there gong you and his daughter are at the glass door waiting while a horde of full sprint zombies are approaching Well, yeah, he's panicking. This is a fucking zombie in front of him. Yeah It's only once he realizes distracted by Chad that he moves through. Why that makes sense, man Remember, we were just shown that all the zombies fell over each other because of the the wave thing Which means he could have he would know that and he's now got I've got time behind me There's a zombie in front of me. What do I do and he hesitates for a moment. It's completely normal gong tells the burly guy to let go of the door because the zombies can't open it But it's a pretty simple knob that can easily be smacked and opened Maybe trying to find a lock on that door just to be safe and secure Maybe well, so this is just them figuring out if it's true Right, like if they were to hit that handle, they would immediately grab the door just close the door again. Yeah And then of course they come up with like how do they see us? It's Are you right? Yeah, no, I just uh Everything shook and it's upset me. Oh my god. It's okay. My god. How was this video uploaded to youtube? Did the team filming it finished recording get bit turned into a zombie in design? What was the live stream? Just try to get me tons of views on youtube. Well, no, so it's a night This is a 19 minute recording according to that and he cuts it off the moment the zombies get to him Apparently he didn't get bitten and then he uploaded it 19 seconds or it was a live stream and somebody just fucking clipped it Yeah, there's loads of ways this could have happened. I don't know See, this is the weird kind of sort of breakdown where I'm just sitting there like why are you so bad faith? Like why cut you assume anything normal? Like this could have literally been anyone's phone live streaming like you said and then someone else Does something with the footage or that he just didn't get killed. We don't see him get bitten If I upload it the parallel of the daughter's selflessness by giving her seat to one of the elderly sisters Versus the father telling her to only watch out for herself is great care to building minus one sin for that Yeah, so now I'm lost you are you are explicitly removing sins for things you consider to be good But there are things you've added sins for that would that weren't good that you thought were bad Then he's also missed loads of good stuff Yeah, so it's confusing Nice roast minus one sin Stop it. Okay The moment between these three characters, then I'm gonna go ahead and remove another three sins three. What the fuck's happening? What is the scale? 17,000 Don has a section of phone contacts called lemmings How cynical do you have to be to refer to people that you do business with as well? No, you don't that could that could literally be a fun name. It doesn't have to be No, that's that's what that's what his team is called Well, this So lemmings is probably like more derogatory, but it could actually be a joke Like an in-joke with them. No, he's he I mean he said it to this one guy This assistant or whatever comes in. It's like, are you working for the lemmings or not or something along those lines I don't know why you We're not putting that up. He's saying that like it's just in this the story. It's um Yeah, yeah, so so I would argue that that is you can have all kinds of group names for anybody in any way Like it doesn't have to be cruel He's he's saying like why how mean of you to do that. It's like, well, no, it's probably just chill This is where it's like that group is the lemmings Yeah, that's what I want to say to smile. Oh be good Lemmings, what if you had a call come in in a meeting and someone sees that you're calling them and that's fine, dude It's fine. They're gonna be fine They'll make it. It's gonna be okay Why is the dajeon mustard station so desolately quiet and barren? You would think the sound of an incoming train would attract a hoard or something Well, all there has to be is just any other sounds outside this distracting the zombies and they're not exactly right next to them Maybe if it's a distant sound, they might not necessarily even care about a distant sound That doesn't sound like anything that they might recognize Changing a knife to a bullet to the heart of the father minus one sin wait So a bullet to the heart is worse than a knife Yes, I don't know about that Because you die faster Would you want no, I don't know Depends on the knife or the bullet I just you know, someone's like, oh we upgraded from stab to the heart to bullet to the heart I'm like, I don't know. Is that okay. Is that an upgrade? That's a weird upgrade Is technology it's an upgrade? I don't know No one here is hesitant to move forward seeing as there's no military or security personnel to greet Well, so they're hesitant They are hesitant to look at them Yeah Yeah, all right A bloody riot shield on the floor is a dead giveaway that you should stop moving forward. No No, it's just not No, it's not. You have no idea. There's so many reasons that could be there. What the hell. Yeah, imagine you just went zombies right And start going back where you came from Let's go ahead and just stare at everyone getting eaten alive for an extended period of time Instead of you know hauling ass out of there. They panic and then they run What is it with you people? You look at these human reactions. Jesus How was this specific soldier able to limp away from these ravenous jumping start? There are all kinds of things that could have happened to facilitate this result I don't like why Do you assume he assumes right that this happened because there was 10 zombies of one limb big guy How could you have escaped them instead of assuming 10 healthy guys one zombie attacks them the infection spreading One guy is injured from some scenario could have been bitten on the leg slowly escapes while all of his men die Gets around the corner. They all chase him Yeah Again, it just to me. It's just bad faith. You assume a weird scenario that makes it an impossibility as opposed to all of the things that could have happened Braving zombies and why isn't he showing signs of infection since he looks like he's covered in bite Is he not dead yet? Is he covered in bite or is he covered on him? He's got blood on him. We don't know what his wounds are Oh, it's Comprehension Oh, mother Don't do this suspense where we think the girl's gonna die and the dad somehow saves her. Oh, thank god That's bad that you got suspense there. That's right there Don't make me concerned for a potential result. No, he was there minus one However, it was a pretty deus ex machina for saying no, it's not the zombies are kind of from the same direction as the survivors Yeah, what the uh, it's not deus ex machina. That's just cause and effect. He doesn't want a little girl to die Yeah, that's just dude ex Well, it's it's like I intend to save someone's life and I save them. Wow deus ex machina like what? Want to come out of nowhere on the nick of time to save didn't come out of nowhere. He was heading that way Yeah, he was going back the way he came from because there was zombies And then he saw the girl almost getting eaten by a zombie And he knocks the shit out of the zombie and then they grab the girl and run It's that's just that's Mmm Her real daddy I mean dad as you could tell I'm pretty conflicted over the over this scene. I mean Let's just stare at the zombie with its head covered for an extended period He was about to die. He realizes he's not about to die. It takes him a second to acclimate human beings 101 It's time to show how in shock I am while literally just feet away People are getting eaten alive and could possibly immediately turn or have he doesn't even know the capacity for the situation He had look at him. People are not allowed to panic in movies. Okay. That's not allowed You can't panic. You have to make 100 clinical rational decisions all the time Remember he literally was like hey asshole, but he's like, uh, fuck like yeah, he's like come on It's just yeah, he's fucking panicking people do this Attackers shift their gaze to me. Yeah, let's just go ahead and stare gong gets up just in time for a second wave of the horde mode to come and so You complain he takes too long and then you're like, wow lucky he got up before something else happened like Come on Too slow and too fast at the same time. Yep Ridiculous scene in this movie. How is this wobbly glass door and wall preventing a horde of these zombies from breaking or pushing through There's like five people Those things are durable first off. Those are durable second off. It's being pushed out by both sides Yeah, which probably helps keep it intact. Yeah, that's just the nature of barricades You go two sides of pushing against each other. I don't know That's just how that was Yeah, it depends what how it's treated or even if it could be like a really thick plastic. I'm not even sure Easily bolt would not be able to handle that speak. Well, it doesn't oh it wouldn't like it. It ends up not holding them. It does make it right. Yeah so Of the devil these glass windows that would probably be able to handle a lot more punishment than the also Can you make your mind up? Hey, look these doors they should break these windows shouldn't though Yeah, those are the ones that are reinforced on either sides by like steel like that. Yeah, that's just a window Jesus And you don't even know how long they've been bashing against that particular window. That's right. Why why Of course get shattered to pieces to add even more tension from both sides of the people trying to enter the train Time to stare and shock more while these things get there people are shocked sin Can you believe it an old lady would be frozen with fear? No old women are very much known for being shad warriors in the middle of zombie back Fairings to attack more here we go shutting the door just in the nick of time before zombies slam their face against the window They were being chased by zombies. They were being chased and they closed it because yeah No, no, it's common in zombie movies that when you close the door the zombies immediately stop and go Ah, damn and then walk away Oh, that was it wouldn't be dramatic if we banged against it now. I guess we'll Yeah, we can't we can't go up and bang against the window man. We look stupid One the pregnant woman gives the homeless guy a chance just in time to shut the door before zombies slam their face against He's being chased. Yeah, he was being chased by zombies. I don't This is so fucking weird Dramatic convenience poppy gets the door finally locked in all four doors. It's not convenient That's him accomplishing a task that he is Working towards fervently. Yeah in an attempt to complete a task. He conveniently completes it Like what what's happening? Yeah, I decided to start cracking Did half the zombies in this pile just die breaking through a lot of them aren't even squirming They're all just kind of limp cut like well They got bodies on top of them. So they're probably trying this is such a quick moment That you don't even have the time to really assess exactly what everyone's doing here is zombies And also they they probably are props. They'll be like prop bodies. Yeah. Yeah, that is a prop pile That's why it's not moving that much That's not ahead with my ex Finally speaking some sense of the people that just stare at shit going on This guy needs to watch some live leak just to see how people react in crisis situations that suddenly occur People freeze the fuck up when they see something traumatic and they don't know how to handle it. Yep That's just how people are Yeah, the only time you can make these criticisms is when you've got like precedent for the character to not act this way or reason to believe that about their history like To say the average human being when seeing people getting eaten, especially their friends Is this bizarre I know those were your bffs, but you gotta keep moving plus Oh, and they were just your friends. They got a you gotta keep going. You see what's important That was five seconds ago. You can't dwell in the past Yeah, just the little the floating angel while you're dealing with all this just like, you know The smart thing to do here is to continue running not to be in shock Thank you for listening and minus one sin This train is taking a while to get to full speed enough for papa to grab a riot shield and night stick Beat a few zombies back and get on super convenient a pregnant. I mean, that's train trains are not really not really built for Yeah, quick acceleration. Yeah trains don't teleport immediately into 100 miles per hour. Like it's not a fucking tesla It's a train and it's not wait till this guy learns how long it takes for him to stop He's gonna get really upset And we don't know that the conductor decided to delay the speed so that more people could try and get on Like you don't know An elderly woman and a homeless man are able to keep a retractable door from being opened by a horde of zombies So the interesting thing about that is that the zombies might not be helping themselves If they push on a particular part of the way that door moves They might actually be screwing themselves over if they push on the wrong part And all you need is for someone to punch that zombie that had the head in the way and then they close it And then they can't see them and then it's fine because the next time we see them the door is closed So Apparently that's what happened well I'm finally glad to see initiative into preventing bites by wrapping the forearms to protect themselves walking dead You've had nine seasons to do what a korean movie did in an hour The walking dead is like the form of the barrel come on This one sin He just straight up wrecked that zombie into the ceiling with pure manliness although badass still how the hell with how cramped Um, he's pretty strong I guess he's really strong His cars are how did three guys stun and push all of the zombies to the side long enough to get through unscathed Um, so they got protection. They hit them in the head Quite a bit with the bats Well, you've seen it You've seen the whole scene how they do it There's even a part where uh Watch the scene Yeah, he pushes a couple of them down and several of them are on top of each other So they're struggling to get back up. So it's like, yeah, the the scene shows you how they do it. It's pretty cool The baseball team decides to stare for an extended period of time without attacking to give our high school friend here PTSD, okay It's like it's like two or three seconds. I don't Can't do something for the love of god This guy is just like the manliest chad navy seal special operator crisis scenario master He never pauses to think he never has to Just do anything mentally. He's just once something happens. He's like a machine Instant reaction. He knows exactly what to do at any time No preparation Nothing can surprise him He's piled up on daddy so much and only one goes after gong a convenient. What how am I is that a sin? Several zombies go after one guy one of the zombies goes after another guy. He like okay Time to discover that darkness pretty much blinds them It's gonna worry about copyright for a second man Back to back roasting remove two sins for those. It's not a roast. He said his ringtone was tacky calm the fuck down It's like let's not roasting someone Maybe it is to this guy. Maybe that's like top tier Maybe I don't know. I would expect a super cool mega navy seal operator zombie Def machine to be a bit more. Yeah, maybe that is A little harder Okay, even more foreshadowing although I do hate this ass hat He makes a fair point when it comes to people getting through that many zombies without getting bitten still you can check them when they come through Right, you could um this this the thing about This position is that it's unreasonable in terms of just like we just assume they're in fact It's we can't keep them out. It's like you can check you can push them back out Like, uh, it's just the the paranoia is enough, but I don't even know what his point was just then Just put on a sin for him being an asshole That many zombies without getting bitten still he's an ass hat. How did they get an elderly woman and more importantly an ass hat? There you go. Yeah Without either making noise or having a zombie aimlessly wander into them while they're when you're looking to not make any noise I'd imagine you're gonna be very careful to go up Carefully and just I don't know like is he saying even the creaking? They did it. Uh, they were very careful Yeah, also the zombies aren't wandering. They're just kind of twerking out Getting everyone up there. Did you really need to have the crunching of a can to start running? Just go can one of well So when you when you step on the can that's shocking and it stops them for a moment to both realize what just happened Is not like he steps on the can goes well. I'm running anyway, but this is like oh fuck. I stepped on a can Guys with the baseball bat bash the only zombies head that got through the door So our boy does it get bit you don't need five people to negotiate getting through the last door damn it So protagonist goes back and starts doing that, but it's not enough because there's several limbs that are through the the whole Rice gum was in this movie Oh Jesus christ don't yell Just don't tip to any one who makes youtube videos. Just don't ever fucking do that never never do it Never ever never scenario where you should do it But if you do just turn fucking down a bit, you know Or step away from your microphone. It's the kind of shit that makes me never watch any of your videos again because I Cause at any point when i'm listening to this on like a speaker or something I know that you're the kind of person who will randomly yell extremely loudly And i'm just fuck it. I'm not gonna watch your shit anymore This is probably the most powerful scene in the movie showing how basically Sensationalist and frantic people would be to close each other out in anarchy minus one sin Don't sound there's so much more to compliment if you're gonna do this this way, but okay I'm tear to my eye daddy says the baby's name By this one sin. I'm guessing manliness slows down the infection time. Why does no, it's about right You get back in the hand. Yeah Yeah, he's not in the hand, but he's a big boy So it's probably gonna take longer for the infection to get through him Did she just not want to live in a world like this? I genuinely watching that scene. I think that he considers grabbing her and she basically says don't I'm not you're not gonna get to me in time It's not I don't I didn't get the impression. She wanted to die, but I don't know maybe Was she suicidal did she want to traumatize her sister? I have so many questions Closing the door on impending zombies in the nick of time part three this They were there. I don't know. They were there. Yeah. Um It's another important scene The transforming gong confronts a man that embodies the selfishness And cowardice that he had been for so long in the ass hat minus one here the sister zombie here Wait, wait, wait, he went up. He said minus one. He added a sin. Yeah, it went up Maybe that's part of the spoof. I don't know. It's hard to tell at this point That he had been for so long in the ass hat minus one here The sister zombie here is so docile. Do elderly zombies not feel like being feral? Why would the fear? Well, so again, he doesn't know how an old person's body walks It's not as strong or as agile or any of those other things because it's a fucking old person There's a reason we put them in hobes Push the quarantine to a safer portion of the car wouldn't they want to be further away from the known infected? No, well, so that requires them all to move out rather than the other people being cast out if you know what I mean Um, you could argue logistically that they would be more invested in being in the the next car while they stay here um But I don't know they seem to tell them to get the fuck out of their place, which is this so It's a it's a toss up a little bit one thinks to stop this lady from approaching the door until it's too They don't notice she's doing that because they're all concerned about the door Late, okay karma is a bitch and this scene is killer minus five damn sins because why not? gong gets a call from kim saying that the assets and stocks they sold at the beginning of the movie Were a direct cause of the ys biotech outbreak Although the facility already had been dealing with the leak before dropping all funding It seems like this scene was shoehorned in to have the main character somehow be related to the outbreak And ultimately have blood on so you didn't get the impression that it was tied to them from the opening scenes Hey, I did Yeah, this was just the the payoff of the pov character realizing that that's the case I felt like this was baked into the story from the get go His hands for his selfishness speak of the devil. He washes the blood from his hands. He survived. Why would you trust this guy? Why wouldn't he had no reason to not trust him? He probably assumed at that point that they're working together Yeah Either of you shut the door behind you I mean That's 50 50 they're rushing to get I think that their intention there was to open the door go through next door open the door And then they realize it stuck and so they stop bashing it like that's an easy mistake for them to make Um, and it wouldn't change anything because uh businessmen would have opened the door Son of a bitch Holy crap. Jin. He here is already showing late signs of infection Yeah, she was chewed the like so we don't see the totality of the what it does to her But since she's changing fast then we have to assume it bit the fuck out of her Like this is easy stuff. I don't know why you just assume a leg bite means axe time. That seems like a really limited view Especially because if you bite into like um What are they? What's the isn't the biggest blood flow like vein in the um the thigh Yeah, that's that the other thigh the other thigh. So if it really chewed in there, I don't know The movie was bit in the leg and was allowed to run to get in walk around for a bit and convulse for a few minutes Jin he literally gets seconds before seizing up and almost dying Yeah, so the bite would have been like all you have to assume is the bite was more shallow with the first girl This one was much deeper. It's still fast. Like it's not taking minutes so Damn it captain asset you ruined everything This is some call of duty logic giant vehicle crashes and the main character somehow survives Passes out and gets woken up in the middle of hell not crashing onto them. It's tilted onto the other one You see that and that's seen you're showing right now How's this call of duties thing? It's just lots of things that you're in a accident and you wake up After it and you realize that you're in some serious shit. Like that's just How's that call of duty happens a lot? I guess because it happens a lot in cold shitty, okay Yeah, that's all that would have as well Do you remember how many times it happens in amnesia rebirth well where you get knocked out and wake up and just like oh No, I'm in a different place and everything's horrible Yeah, that game's very good Between a train and uh, what I don't believe that you mean that I really don't mean it Jesus Stop it Like All right, I'm turning back up. He's gonna scream again at one point, isn't he probably yeah When our man guy gets bitten You know, I love this shot. What reminds me of that opening scene. Did you say the least you could do is thank him? They actually say that The homeless guy paid you back for saving him and is sacrificing himself The least you could do is thank him. So here's the thing about facial expression is my man. Yeah I think she's thankful, you know, I love this shot It reminds me of that opening scene in 28 weeks later But I also can't help but think where the hell were all these zombies when the train first stopped apparently So the train crashing Releases a lot of the zombies. Yeah Yeah, that's yeah, holy crap. I'm pretty sure that after The little train they got out from under like falls down fully Yeah, I see how it had a little gap and it falls down fully. You see them all climbing out the top Yeah, these feral minded zombies are coordinated enough to grasp on to each other in a big coordinated enough to simply grab The thing that's in front of them It's so coordinated On top of each other to get onto the train How did the zombies holding directly onto the train car with their hands have enough strength to carry the weight of 40 to 50 other Um, that one that one is tough. You've got a couple of zombies at the front holding it So it's a distributed weight to a degree, but that is a tough amount of weight to be able to hold for sure Yeah Please I bet the ones on the bottom again consequentially though this gets stopped nobody gets hurt. It's stopped Are all ripped to shreds Another bit of infection rate bs ass hat got bit before getting on the train So again, so this is what I mean about Maybe I'm being really generous, but it seems like this is all you have to assume is however He was bitten it would have been shallow and it would have been maybe lower on the leg or something Because it has to it took a while We don't see the bites and and how deep they go So if they take longer to fully change then you just have to assume the bite wasn't as significant easy And still has not fully turned yet the girl he indirectly killed turned almost instantaneously I guess it was just so they could have the last direct conflict with my fear mongering Selfish side the second you saw ass hat look away knowing he was infected Why did you not attempt to throw him overboard because he doesn't fucking know what to do here exactly? He's stressed the fuck out. He's dealing with someone who is pleading to him and then he stops talking So they have just realized the time and I need to run away so that I can catch my train Well, it's all right. You actually might have to almost see the whole video So, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry about that If you if you need to go right away go right ahead But I was gonna say if you want to let people know where they can where they can find you What you're up to and I'll uh, you can find me Under your fucking bed tonight I'll say fucking dreams You can find me at Count Danculo on youtube or Count Danculo on a toile What's um, you got any plans for your newer? Your mad lads mad lads I've got a mad lads coming out. I never tell anybody who they are beforehand But I've got a mad lad coming out next week and then Nice, I know I should have a mad lad out in a couple of days Hopefully and then I've got another mad lad next week Which is like I believe is going to be over a fucking hour long. It took me so long to fill in dude No, I must have been a particularly mad lad Yeah, it was it basically his entire life was a fucking shit show The best kind of person Yep, pretty much, but yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna run now because this is the last train home. So if I don't get it, I'm fucked I hope there's no zombies on it, I guess Yeah, bro, yeah I'll just hold on to the back of it. You know, it's like dragging along the ground The drunk man's way to do it. All right. Well, yeah, thank you so much for joining us, dude We'll catch you again sometime. Have a good ride home All right, let's finish this fucking thing That's please Keeping his word to his fallen new brother He sacrifices himself for manly man's pregnant wife while also succumbing to the very selfishness that once plagued him Redemption at its finest. Goodbye one sin Even after watching this one This drove home this character in the movie in general because I'm such a sap We're gonna half the sin tally right now to slow walking non-jittering people in the tunnels And you don't think to at least attempt communicating with them before you pop They're gonna be pretty ruthless at this point in the infection I'll be taken any fucking risks and he says unable to verify and at that point high commands Probably gonna be like wipe them out Yeah Woman's head finishing the movie sewan finishes the song that she could not do without her father's presence And it ultimately saves her life as if her father's advice and spirit looked over her one last time Yeah, one more sin Minus one. All right Oh Oh Jockey All right, I think we're done I'm I'm happy to yeah So, um, yeah, trying to be so it's pretty good Yeah, I think this movie would recommend consider this the e-fap of recommending it Just two hours of talking about it at an hour Whatever that was This one was weird like this was this was like a proper spoof. I mean I guess it's I think it's just mixed messaging and it's kind of the frustrate It's one of the frustrating things about cinema sins and it's the frustrating thing about like Anything that's in that style when you say, yeah, some of the points are legitimate Some of them are obviously bullshit and some of them are jokes I have no idea what I meant to be taken away from this. I have no clue It's just really frustrating as a viewing experience It's like is that a joke and it feels like you can just pick and choose when it's a joke and when it's real You know, just like yeah, no, that was a joke. No, that was obvious idiot. That was obviously satire. Anyway, um I mean, I could honestly picture him being like Well, none of it was serious. I'd be like well, but some of the things you said Anything you said when you were really sad about the guy and the flashback to his kid You meant that and he'd be like, oh, no, no, I meant that stuff I'm like, okay, so what about the valid flaws you brought up? Like they used to be like, yeah, I mean, yeah, I guess so God, I don't understand But yeah, uh rags is having internet troubles. He's uh, still is still down. So he'll he'll come back as best I guess But I suppose we We start reading super chats Oh, yeah, yeah, that because that is the main two things that we were gonna do today. So um onto the third and final What a quaint e-fap We'll have to see we'll have to see what people think of this one because this is a very unusual e-fap to be fair Hey, we do like things guys. It's nice to talk about the things that we like. Yeah Hell yeah, yeah trying to be some is just a hard recommend It's just a great story. I was gonna say really it's like talk about the ruby rose things like the rags isn't here I don't know. It seems a little bit sad that he doesn't get to talk about any of his perspective on it Shouldn't we wait hopefully until he returns since it's more than likely his internet will Come back within the hours that we'll be talking about the messages. So um Also, uh, I just got added saying ruby rose, uh, warner brothers have responded about it. They have Yeah What have they said out of curiosity? So their response was that she is like that hold on Fuck I need to find it So the response was They said that um That it's revisionist history And that they chose not to exercise the option to bring her back for season two because of multiple complaints about workplace behavior That were reviewed and handled privately So that's their response spicy Well, yeah, I guess it's I don't know what what comes of it after that. Yeah Yes, was yeah someone in chat said no you basically Yeah, well because we haven't talked about the whole thing We said that we're talking about it. Yeah, well, well, it says rags is green right now on discourse. We might be coming back. Um And if he does about it So, um First super chat of the night And that's that's all it says. Oh, no, nice. Good job. I did it. Lord long bone of me Hey, have you given any more thought to kong fap of peter jackson's long kong when there's less going on It'd be an epic movie fap ps. Hello wags these squishes for the good boy So someone's gonna have to say thank you in rags's voice That's Thank you. I was a pancake king. Okay. I'm sorry. All right. Well, yes Uh, there is an intention to do a long kong fapt long bong kagonga donga donga at some point um Also, is this louder than usual? Let me know chat Ew, why can't I control it? shitty mario party six Hmm You this chat you this seem to click in the controller, but nothing's happening. I have big concern that you cut it again lower I would never It is a gamecube game and the controller is set. So what's going on here? Hmm Very booting. Let's see what happens Um metal. Where's the train to your blowhole? uh, it's uh It's left I don't know it's a secret all right But it's always you always watered my blowhole is always watered Oh, there you go. I think the control is working again. All right. Well, I fixed it with a genius restart Good job. Are you jealous of my powers? Yeah, I should welcome 19. I'll also well It's all lower the the game by one. Where are you? It's on four out of 100. I put it to three Fucking loud ass games What's your bring me an nda clearly expiring? Well, um, this is the thing when I read the stuff about jacob. I was like, all right I mean I'm still going to try and maintain my principle. We got to hear it from him as well his perspective, you know And whatever the specifics are Um, sorry molar. I'm watching lord rings two towers high rags Hello, yeah, there you go. No, um, that's fair. I can understand watching lord rings two towers fair Um favorite character mine was asian gerald I mean, there is only one favorite character. Okay Yeah Is a correct one do not fuck it up Um What's this madness and efap on wednesday? Yeah, and you're still getting another one on saturday And then another one on wednesday again It's giving us the sleep back or me. I guess you guys can sleep when i'm away Also, there's no reason to keep that a secret because I guess they've got more homework now You guys got to see squid game before next wednesday Uh, oh, that's wednesday Yeah, it's only a week from now. You will have to have seen that show because we're gonna go through it Um, it's only enough tomorrow, right? I went through it People in chat were any of you on real bbc when I mentioned some of the the criticisms that I got like People would be like you're nitpicking. Stop it Leave the show alone. I was like, oh man Because uh, they're the I actually quite like squid game. Um, and you'll find that out next wednesday But you're also fine, but I I consider there to be some flaws Little pedantic baller. I mean what well, this is the thing. I've got home now The efap pedantry caves where we mine pedantry infinitely, so it's all happy Um like peasantry But yeah, you better you better finish it up by wednesday because we're gonna go through all of the good and bad Just like we did today except it's a little longer than train to busan like a couple minutes Fuck Have you done efap 144 super chats yet? If not when? Um, they could end up being the last ones we end up catching up on It depends on how it all sorts out, but the way we've been trying to do it Is um, there's a main sort of backlog that I'm just chunking through and then there's Anytime we get a new set that are that they're usually the ones that are tried to done first It's the best we can do in terms of trying to keep them as relevant as possible But um, we're not through them all yet, so I don't know that 144 has been done. I'm afraid Good day everyone and remember no matter what don't ask dankula to say the phrase purple burglar alarm That's that's that's the the big sky. That probably would have come out very different Like that wouldn't have been easy Damn, that's something we probably should have gotten to say actually, yeah Yeah shame Um, I rewatch train to busan for this and can say it sequels one of the most disappointing sequels ever Glad to see you guys covering this movie You know sounds like it Maybe we could do an efap movies for that just to see what it is I'm being sure Hey, man, I don't know that it's gonna be the worst thing dank said they opening 15 minutes are pretty good, so It's better than most the other things Would you rather fight a chimpanzee once a year with a sword or a chicken every time you open a door? the chimpanzee I'll take the chimp. Yeah Like I'm fine a chicken. I'll be fine a chicken like fucking 10 times a day at least yeah every time I Like god damn Get out of my bathroom It was like fucking chickened it by hallway because of course The chimp is a harder opponent, but with a sword as well that just makes it way like yeah I invite the chicken every day of the week every not every day of the week every fucking hour of the day Yeah I gotta get up to take a piss in the middle Oh There is a workaround of a kind of workaround leave all your doors in your house open so you got that but then And also every time you need to unlock or you know just lock the doors and then go outside and go You know buy anything and in your car too if you open the door to the car you have to find the chicken And when you get out you gotta you go into the shops. There's a chicken waiting for you to fight you It's like when I'm doing groceries any minute now. I'll just have to kill this chicken exactly It dominates your life the chicken will dominate your life I'm changing up this time. I'm making wario a shit ai, but I'm giving him a star We'll see how that plays out Um Count can you retell that one story with a guy having a smoke in a train and another guy telling him to stop Last time you told it. I didn't understand the punchline. Thanks to your Scottishness I'm afraid dank ran out of time Have to go catch his train to boost on To to haggis. Oh god. That is that's oh We're gonna get banned from youtube, dude What do you mean? There's a town probably called haggis It's just it's just cultural appropriation at that point then Yeah, I'm naming things from another place. You're just taking this stuff. Stop it Uh, hello everyone. Hope you're all doing good currently going through the efat videos And I'm on 18 bilbo baggins look at women rhino milk future spiders rags, and then an eggplant and look he's here Oh my goodness gracious Hope you haven't thought of all them efats That's good stuff rags now that you're here. We were waiting for you to arrive before talking about the batwoman situation Oh, yeah, that's right. There's been some uh, there's been some batwoman developments. I don't have um Do you want to do you want to frame it for me because I'm not 100% So, yeah, actually Before you start someone sent me a uh, someone sent me Some stuff that maybe you could use. Uh, give me a second So Let me post these for you Oh, I've got like an article that just has it all Okay down because the way that it was communicated initially was um, suboptimal Right, I got really long paragraphs and she wrote it in that Situation the font that's like hard to make the fucking weirds out. Yeah. Well, yeah That was the one that was incursive that I legitimately was struggling to read. Um But there's an article that just puts it all there. So I guess the I'll just do the summary, I guess. So she said like I'm gonna say what happened. Um Shit, there's some guy called peter roth. I think he's a president Warner Brothers television. She basically accusing him of like Um, she said making young women steam your pants around your crotch while you're still wearing pants or like and then apparently I had a private investigator to get information on her so that he could fire her that was her claim and then And then Something to cut uh Yeah, so she uh, she suffered from a broken neck rib and a tumor Um, but was told they wouldn't make their day if she got an x-ray um and then uh She was told that she had to go back to work 10 days later or the whole cast and crew would be fired um Roth told her that she wouldn't recast and she had just lost the studio. I mean Millions and cost so many people their jobs um When she said that you could have just rewritten it to give her a few weeks to heal up Apparently she took a pay cut to do about woman Um, and she couldn't participate in comic con unless they re-did the schedule, but they didn't want to do that um I'll just uh Sorry, let's let's go down. So it's talking about how like a bunch of people got injured on the set Somebody who got third degree burns on his whole body They were given no therapy after witnessing skin fall off his face Um, and then they were told they had to do a sex scene without a minute to process having lost two stunt doubles And so suffered a cut to the face so close to Ryan a stunt that she could have been blind um And then there was a crew injury in which an assistant was left quadriplegic Paralyzed an awful limbs the studio. She said that the studio blamed on her being on her phone Even though she needed to be using her phone um The crew member in question received no help at first from the network As they had to investigate leaving her to raise money herself. I remember we that was we heard about that like last year Right the the go from me Yeah, yeah And then continues to say that uh, the show runner wanted to keep filming during stuff um And a bunch of other shows got their production shut down on the same network, but apparently they wanted to continue uh, and the only reason that it didn't happen was because the government basically said can't um and then Then she said that do grace scott was acting like an asshole on set basically Yeah Did she say he abused women or stunts people? Yeah, so he said She said uh, that he heard a female stunt double. He yelled like a little bitch, uh, and women and was a nightmare and then um Ruby Roy sent out an email asking for a no yelling policy, which was declined um, and then apparently, uh She was late one time because she was in the hospital Um, and she was told to get a taxi because she was not allowed to drive but they didn't want to do anything about that Um, god Yeah, so that that was what she said Um, and then the response from the studio was that that was revisionist history And that the the truth was that the network didn't want to bring it back for season two because of multiple complaints about workplace behavior They were extensively reviewed and handled privately out of respectful consent So that's that's that's that's where it's at right now Um What a shit show just Yeah, yeah, it just sounds shit It's um, I've seen people comment as well just like god It's so obvious right because like all of the virtue signaling they do in terms of like What the show's all about but at the same time like the amount of damage that the people who work to create that show would do Well, yeah, I guess that's the thing is like people have been hurt on this show We remember hearing about it last year or there was the year before that I definitely remember about a woman who was injured and had to set up a goat fund me I definitely remember that Yeah, we would need to go fund me if it was well that's right That's that's the part that's it's like you would presume that you would get support from the studio if you were injured on set Yeah, especially if you were doing your job and then you got hurt because of stuff that was happening on set um Yeah, like as someone's mentioned in chat the injury stuff would be well documented. It's like yeah, I guess uh And ruby roast actually had like a documentary worth of information on it. I guess But like you need to communicate that more clearly next time because god damn like the format that you used to say all of this Is like not great. Yeah Like I can barely read it. It's it's really yeah I wonder how much of it is true. I guess that's the thing It's well because some of these not telling the truth Or alternatively there's truth on both sides Which is probably the case Well, yeah, I guess that's I guess i'm curious because something's got to come of it because it's like that's a lot of things that just have been uh put out there Like I don't know that the response that they've given Is like enough to address every single thing, you know Yeah, I just I have no clue. That's the thing. It's uh, I don't know. Yeah I mean, who knows if it's true that we're just caught in this weird situation I'm uh, I mean by the way. Oh, yeah actor plays cyborg It's like tweet out support for her as well. I'm just like this is probably gonna get around It probably is gonna be around. It's probably the most serious of these kinds of things compared to stuff when they say like I was yeah mean things were said to me. This is like We are four people seriously injured seemingly Well, yeah, because somebody said she was in hospital It's like, yeah, she was definitely injured on that show Like I remember where you heard about it again last year that ruby rose got injured on that show like seriously spinal surgery, right? Well, I mean you saw the pictures and there were pictures in the post that she put up of her in hospital and like They kept filming the show So she probably did so like she did go to hospital and then she Would have had to have gone back to like film the show at some stage so Well, and can we is there gonna be proof to be found that they said 10 days? Otherwise we'll fire everyone. I guess there'd be a timeline, right? Like when did you get your treatment and when were you back on set? I just mean like proof of like that message because that's That's damning as fuck to be like if you don't feel fast enough. We'll fire everyone. It's like, oh my god Yeah, are these texts are they emails? I guess Well, I guess that's the thing is you'd need to that Yeah, we'd have to say that Because if that if that one's true like Jesus, that's uh, he Yeah, because right now she's got the benefit of why would she lie about that? But Yeah, which means like surely it can be you'd hope it can be proven for her sake because if they can I guess I guess the big thing would be if if some of these other people who were um The people who were injured if they spoke out as well and corroborated what she said Dennis like oh man Well, she's not looking good the biggest voice that could do it right outside of scott himself like saying I did this Uh, all the people but like she's the biggest star of anybody who's been on e-fair Definitely Even Yeah, what a shit show also, what a shit show You said uh, there was There was a part two. Sorry like one of others have responded. She said I read out the response Oh, the I thought I read it out while it was here. Yeah, the response was they said like You we didn't we didn't this is revisionist and we decided not to bring you back because of complaints Uh, that we reviewed Um, it's it's it's it's like a corporate response Yeah, um, but I mean, I imagine she's gonna respond. So I guess we'll have to see how that all pans out It's a weird one Yeah, it just sounds shit like like it just sounds um Like what a shitty environment to be in to make a show Yeah, that stuff's true like what a nightmare. Yeah, it sounds awful freaking nightmare Is it um, do you think it changes anything about the our coverage of it? Or is it just like damn, um Well, I mean we None of this information wasn't known Um I we knew about injuries that happened On set, but I guess uh how it was handled and stuff like that that was uh, that was unknown information I guess it's just um Like that really sucks if it's true. Mm-hmm Just yeah It's it's just sour that's all Because obviously, uh, we've recorded all of season two stuff for reference chat. Um, we actually This is a second episode of bat one coming out soon, right for season three Uh, I think yeah, I'm pretty sure it's already coming out now. Yeah I haven't checked um The bat woman subreddit, but I have to assume that they have a trouble with this It's awkward to support the show, you know Yeah I wonder if um, what's it who's the name of the new bat woman javicia. Just some like something like that. Yeah Uh, but yeah, I'm wondering if there's a I mean What if she quits, you know, what if she's like, you know in solidarity with ruby rose or something like that? That'd be wild I guess I did the end of the show, right? What if she stays in the show to improve it for within? I burn it off. She doesn't want to burn it all over the ground the cw Honestly, if she left they're probably just trying to appeal to get cake back for the new actress. I mean I guess yeah. Oh, yeah, probably if they lose both of them, then yeah, they'd be like, what the fuck do we do now? Recast bat woman again Man, if you had no clue about the matter of that show and you just go from the end of season one to the beginning of season How weird is that like they chose to recast bat woman and make this person but okay That is definitely a strange one But I love her me rose Hey, I genuinely missed her in season two. Yeah Rip e fat bat woman, I mean obviously all the season two stuff will still happen I just I I imagine we'll find out when we watch the next one what the vibe will be I don't know if it changes much of anything because a lot of um Amazing stuff has horrible production stuff going on Yeah, I don't know how much this changes Yeah, I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it all pans out Don't make Alice into bat woman. Oh boy. Oh, they would they would My lord's the count and metal wonder bar My number one Wonder bar a new e-fap right as I finish work Accompany me home you massifs also high rags play. Hello sp. Tarkov my single player mod of choice sp Tarkov Yeah, I don't know what that is myself Hmm Uh, just got done with 150 can't believe you guys spent over 24 hours literally only bashing one woman also Hi, everyone except rags also high rags Hello, wait a minute That means they said hello to everyone as Yeah, yeah, we we went we went hard on grace Randolph and you believe it I can I rewatched a lot of that the other day I suppose laying down and That was a really bad video kind of interesting the mileage of different videos because the one we just watched today We got through that one really quick Like, um, it was dismantling the points were just super fast, but the grace Randolph one we couldn't get past the first minute in like an hour There was just so much wrong Um, am I the only one that sees an owl giving the middle finger when I look at the hulu logo? Hulu, let's have a look at the hulu logo an owl Yeah, an owl giving a middle finger is what they said um I don't yeah, I don't see it. I mean it's just the way to hulu, right? Like it's kind of I thought it was gonna be a kind of shape, but I don't really see it I just don't see it. Yeah I wish I did Um, good movie dad was definitely a diversity hire though. They were all diversity hires None of them are English. What the fuck? I was outraged Uh thoughts on comments ruby rose made today. Well, there you go. We just did that. Yeah, there you go Oh, apparently it's so the use in the hulu thing would be the eyes of the owl, I guess what they go for My hulu you mean like the streaming thing No, the other hulu all right Haven't seen the movie yet, but it's on Um, it's on On a movie list i'm working through so dropping this super and leaving to avoid spoilers Yeah, this is one of the mefaps where If you haven't seen it, I would actually recommend watching it first. Um, yeah You can always come back another time Like a spoil fap because when it comes to stuff like a fucking black widow, I'd be like you don't I don't know if you see that Yeah, yeah, don't see it. Fuck it. So bad Um I had an argument about objective standard and we reached a stalemate. I wanted to ask what makes a movie objectively bad Um simple version we usually go with is just uh What is a story? Break it down into component parts and then Does it fail to meet that? definition that category basically In the same way that you could do it with a lot of how we categorize everything Well, we often go to work as a chair. Yeah Uh, but yeah, pretty much it's inconsistent with itself doesn't have cause and effect, you know pretty basal stuff like that Nothing too complex honestly Where the tipping point is I don't know can be difficult to figure that out But uh when you do with something like black widow, it's like well it passed the tipping point For sure everyone knows that For something like that another thing like none of the parts just work mm-hmm Here's the exit of this game. What am I supposed to be doing? I'm going the right way. Yeah Oh, I did nice Um Hello all has anyone here heard of sturgeon's law? If not, I'd get wikipedia andy on the case because I believe you guys already get the principle I think I've heard that I don't know that I've heard of it. Um Any of you guys able to have a look at that? Uh say at one time that sturgeon isn't that like the the s&p or something Sturgeon's law, uh Sterven's revelation commonly referred to as sturgeon's law is an adage commonly cited as 90 of everything is crap No The adage was coined by theodore sturgeon an american science fiction author and critic 90 percent of everything is crap Yeah, kind of sound familiar. That does sound familiar. Yes. I mean the the adage gets truer and truer every year. It seems Voltaire expressed a similar idea in the short story the world as it is published in 1748 You have read some very despicable things, but in all times in all countries in all genres the bad abounds and the good is rare tasteful tear Yeah, the uh the original so the september 1957 issue of venture Um and on that hangs sturgeon's revelation It came to him that science fiction is indeed 90 crud but that also eureka 90 percent of everything is crud all things cars books cheese hairstyles people and pens are To the expert and the discerning I crud except for the acceptable Tithe which we happen to like I saw somebody mention 80 20, but that's a different principle And like 80 20 is i'm pretty i'm pretty sure that's more like rooted in like numbers 80 20 Yeah, that's right. Oh, thanks And someone said a copious production errors wouldn't acting there's more to a movie's quality than just the writing So when we're talking about the writing That's what we're talking about Um, we often talk about acting on e-fab. I don't know why you think we missed that and like We focus on the writing mainly Um, also, yeah, I'm guessing we've not read this part out yet, right because he just posted the um Yeah, dude, right scott Yeah, he's So this is the thing when a claim comes out Is this I think we have a bias toward claims sometimes because these these just like why would you say if it wasn't true? It's probably true. I could see okay. It's probably true Well, hold on. I mean you never if if it was her fault She got fired if she didn't get the compensation. She felt she needed if she had a bone to pick with a cw I mean Well, so this is what i'm saying is like you take a step You take a step back and you go wait, but all of it could be lies or misrepresentations You have to keep that in mind and that's why just earlier I was like I want to I want to get his perspective before I try and make any judgment His quote is literally they are everything she's said is entirely made up and never happened Like oh, oh I guess that's the thing is you just got to wait and see as more perspective come out Yeah, there's not much to do with that at this point. Oh, yeah, it's a set of limbo, isn't it? We had two two actors have made claims that oppose each other and she's like all right then We're gonna have to need evidence. I'm not doing anything else. Yeah, I can't do anything until then It's really unfortunate though. Um, yeah, because You know like we'll If someone's like genuinely do you guys think that you want the show cancelled and stuff and you want it off It's like I mean, yeah, I also would want it to be good and I also don't want the people to suffer when making it, you know I I would prefer by far that everyone's having fun making it, but it is absolutely a whole shit like though. That's fine with me Um, this is just bad news It makes you wonder like if it's true. Is this happening on other shows? You know, is this a company-wide thing or is it just this group in particular? It's I said, um Something critical of like the cw on twitter and someone was like oh well This is this this isn't the first time a cw is something like a horrible in production with this And I think brown table or high top between out like like they can't keep getting away with this shit. I was just like oh The cw done more shit like this Well, yeah, because I'm unfamiliar with that that's I don't know Um, speaking of really stupid characters and horror movies in general don't watch the new halloween That's all I've been hearing the only praise I'm hearing for the new halloween is enjoying it ironically or all rather As a movie that is self aware stupid Oh, it's self aware stupid. It's not as well. It's just I just didn't understand that that was halloween's vibe, you know But um, are we talking about we talking about halloween kills or yeah the new one okay Wait, that's supposed to be a halloween movie Like in the series or just yeah this holiday. It's the sequel to the reboot, right? Oh Okay Hey e-fap and friends just got through with my best friend's funeral service Uh, don't forget to tell those you love how much they mean to you also high rags and fringled Oh, hello, I sort of care about all that though. Yeah, that sucks Uh a good sentiment nonetheless Um deep sleep one three don't escape one three four best point and click I'm wait, how am I supposed to read this? So don't sleep. I guess it's a game And one through three and then don't escape one and then three and four I guess yeah, they're probably franchises um Hale muesli fringon mootle and of course mad lad donkula um, hey, no Vorsch is still unironically evil uh The a-train wants to choo choo choose you and high ragu Hello Choo choo choo that's simpsons. It's a very memorable episode Hey, look, he says you can point the second his heart rips in half And now that's that's been referenced like So fucking much insane That's uh, that's a good one Mola you hear there's an atmospheric horror game on steam called chasing static set in rural wales Very positive rating at the moment. Will you be in it? Will I be in it? I can only hope um But hey, uh, I'll have a look at that at some point. I'll put that on my notes Sounds interesting Uh, you guys should watch return of the living dead definitely one of the best zombie movies We could do a um a romero arc. I suppose Maybe I don't see why not Even throw in snider's dawn of the dead at some point. We love snider films on efep Oh, yeah, none, but quality from zack snider zackariah snider Is that just you you say kill me No, end me Um, do you think az has an issue with the main character having an asian kid this time peepo? Hey, hey To show you I mean peace I will leave this high rags Hello, that's a peace offering As a piece. I like how that's become a thing. It's a peace offering now. I mean, you know harm high rags Um Hi rags Hello, you mentioned before that despite being both fantastic Both being fantastic. You prefer the lord rings books over the movies. How come Did I I can't I honestly can't remember had someone asked me which one you prefer? I wouldn't have had an answer. I I don't know that I've I remember you saying that but maybe I don't remember either I'm not sure. I'm honestly. I don't know which one I prefer. It's been so long since I read the um It's been so long since I've read them. I just I can't recall. I just know I adore the movies Mm-hmm You get sent back in time to one moment in history with the sole goal of creating as much chaos as possible Where do you go and what do you do? Hmm Say what you you are your voice did it autism for a moment. What's that? So you can choose any point in history to go back to and you can do Um, I guess anything you want within your your ability, but your goal is to create as much chaos as possible I'm probably gonna One of those times that will war three was averted and make it happen Well, yeah, because I guess I guess um, I'm pretty sure everybody's heard the story, but the uh, the the russian guy in the uh When there was a a false like some sort of error that said that there was a bomb there So I guess like break his legs before he goes to work So he wouldn't have been there and clearly what would have happened? Yeah, you could do it like that Yeah, I'm trying to think of stuff like that. I could I guess more feasibly see myself doing. Um, I guess um I mean, I guess you'd be interesting to change history. Like you go to uh, what was the theater that Like, you know, Ford's theater. You just got out like look out He's got a gun and then save Abraham Lincoln Yeah, be crazy and just see how how like the reconstruction era changes with him still around Well, that's not wasn't chaos that would just be making the world a better place It's something that's kind of mentioned in chat, but imagine going back to like super early humans and inventing the wheel for them straight away Oh, that would be interesting. Yeah, and this great and they'd be like, oh, shit Yeah Because that's gonna like it seems maybe minor in some way, but just like that's gonna have major repercussions, isn't it? Absolutely. Absolutely it would Oh, I guess yeah, if you went back in time and started performing magic tricks Like really elaborate magic tricks to trick them into thinking that you're god and then you spread that culture around nice Pull yourself from a thulu and you're like, I'll be returning In the 3000 years or something I mean, I'm I'm thinking one of the big things to do would be to bring back Technic like schematics for something like there's no friends. There's no reason why you couldn't go back to the renaissance And be like, yeah, here's here's here's a steam engine And see you know because and just be like and here's a working steam engine I'll give you these two as a head start figure it out Yeah, like yeah, and who you give it to Yeah, because if you went back to the stone age and dropped in a game boy, that's not you know, actually change fucking anything Because I can't charge it. So once it's gone Yeah, because yeah, how does a medieval person like microchips plastics like I I don't even know what this is to like copy it But you give someone a steam engine schematic or something like that and you're like, yeah There's just a bunch of metal and some you know Tubes and things like yeah, you could probably make this if you really put your mind to it and this is how it works So Yeah, I'm gonna leave you with this mention in chat that there are instances in the past where technological advancements have occurred But because it was too early nothing came of it So you need to think About what this society needs right now And then give them that and then see what they would do with it um Oh Here's here's what if you what if you went to um you went to like the americas before uh, the europeans came over And just told them like all right, so they're coming for you on the other side of this ocean They're coming you need to be prepared for when they show up Build walls all around Oh, just give them a bunch of tech and see what happens if you are if you like make them prepared to defend themselves And like well they just prepared a sabotage like when they leave the boats and start setting the boats on fire and stuff Well, yeah If you give them very specific information give them the names of the people who are coming us like these are their names All right, and they will come at this time Be prepared and then once that professor comes sure as like oh, we we got to set our plan into motion Um Watched episode six of squid game with my gf uh cried at the end I don't know if the rest of the episode will land but man. I really love that episode Go shit. It's good. It's good episode. Yeah. I also got yeah that that one got me Wow, it's just watching the last efab. Dankula was on too. What a goingy dink. Yes. Yeah the return of the dank Hi, so me had to leave. Yeah. Yeah. You had to catch the last train Oh, I got you Hi efab crew discover the podcast five months ago, and I'm finally up to episode 144 the utter length of you lads is astounding Impressive ps pale dank and high racks Hello Yeah, good stuff five months ago. That's Honestly not that long to be able to get through That is uh, you've been booking you've been binging. That's not healthy. I wonder if um That would just be it because obviously I love the idea that's always getting loads of entertainment out of it But man imagine like thinking looking at a show you're like, oh, I got like fucking 200 episodes by the time I catch up And then the day you finally catch up you'd be like I guess that's kind of that journey um Cashewn is pronounced cashewn because cash in I guess not cashewn cash cash in Also watch 2004's cash in movie. I think they recommended that last time. Um We may we may who knows Hmm Hey, Malora, I know you're not into slashes But I'd love to see a reaction of views on the scream series easily the best and most interesting ones I'll have plenty to say on slashes. They just don't really do it for me Uh, yeah, I'm not a fan of slashers I don't take them that seriously like I could totally see us going through the um the Friday the 13th movies because of the fact that they eventually go to space. That's like hilarious on its own And like I don't know that I'm ever going to be scared by them But I will happily talk with you guys about them, you know, what's working. What isn't that stuff? um Yeah, uh scream is also a series I'd be interested. I like scream one. Um, because it's very aware of its position and sort of Slash her culture and stuff Persona 5's boss theme rules check out the track blooming villain when you have free time There you go everybody It's almost like a country that isn't infested with wokeism is capable of producing enjoyable media To be fair, we still get good films We got them. Yeah Like there is no good stuff coming out of the west because sometimes we we can doom it a little bit like that But yeah, we do have to push it back a little bit sometimes be like hey, yeah The ones that we praise here in there, you know There's only 2019 the joker came out, right? A lot of good movies came out marriage story ford v ferrari parasite Yeah, I still need to see Paris 1917 yeah 1917 that's right. Yeah Uh So, yeah, what a shame that weska betrayed y'all lol. Oh well. Hey, your name is alice, right? Oh, fuck may have to autograph What is this referencing? I know Yeah, I don't know exactly what it's trying to refer to Oh, by the way There's a an account that's been pointing out loads of major plot holes in those films That we don't I don't think we ever actually talked about because we just didn't pay that much attention Yeah, one of the ones he said oh, yeah, I could totally believe that upon closer examination Yeah, absolutely turns it a nonsense But when you're with so many things to comment on live You're just gonna catch the most You just you're not going to be able to catch them because I yeah, I don't think I ever um Really looked at them that way like I was just like what's this one going to be? And I didn't like I guess we still comment here and there on like continuity But one of the things that we're bringing up was um When we first meet wesker, he is like the undisputed boss and he's telling the scientist that is Ian glenn's character exactly what to do, but then Ian glenn later becomes wesker's boss Like it's like why and it's just like well because uh His star power made it so that he was just gonna be the main draw of the films at that point. It's kind of strange It's just not someone I really paid attention to they were worried worried about selling the virus still where the whole world became a desert remember it's just like So yeah, we have to we have to be a company We have there are no customers left on the planet But it's really important that we still do some rnd for this stuff for whatever reason But um, we definitely obviously make fun of a lot of things that don't make sense in it But there's the comment section on those videos has been some fun stuff to read because I've just been like Oh, fuck. I didn't even realize that Um, another example is the origin of the virus and the origin of the red queen's design That changes in the last movie compared to how they establish it. And I think the second movie Uh, it's like like genuinely the description is just completely different and contradictory Whatever I guess Um cash in o4 is a japanese movie, but the only country to have a blu-ray of it are the germans How the fuck does that make any sense? Well, Mel will just come back so yeah I'm pretty sure the japanese were honorary arians, so uh, I think it all slots together for me Which reminded me of like one of the best jokes in uh Jojo rabbit. I think that's that's that might be my favorite They don't look very arian Between you and me. They don't look very arian Um, I want to watch to see fab live, but now I have to rewatch train to busan. Hi rags Hello, that is a good problem to have Hey mola. Thanks for recommending buffy. I'm on season six and angel season three right now both good So far, I liked angel season one and two Buffy season five and season three didn't like season one have mixed feelings on buffy season four and two I honestly that's Pretty much my take as well Oh sounds like you got a similar one. What do you think about those seasons? So yeah one bad two pretty bad three great five Excellent top notch shit and then four is like a mixed bag again And six is is off more beautiful Um, hi, are we talking about squid world today more? Actually, I just let people know but we'll keep doing it You got you got homework you fab chat as well as metal and rags. They got to do it, too You've got to finish up squid game within a week You got one week to do it world squids everywhere We're gonna touch several of our series That'll be great. Yeah, we'll be talking about squid world next week. This can be awesome Squid world Are you going to cover what if no? And I'm kind of happy to just not cover marvel Honestly, the tunnels will be the next maybe obviously we'll cover no way home No way home. That's what's called. Yeah. I was almost gonna say no time to die. I was like, no, that's not spider No time to come home No time to spider me Um, yeah, tunnels we might cover. I don't know Um, I get the impression that we might need to seems like that one's super more heavy So might influence the well, have you have you heard about what bad guy gets bated at the end of it? Uh, yes I figure it's it's the kind of thing. I know mettle and rags wouldn't care about. I don't know if people in chat will care like in terms of Don't say it I know for a fact you guys would not give a fuck if I told you Oh I thought if I would care about people in the audience might yeah people in the audience, right? Well, I know that because there's there's a there's a lot of baiting from from what I understand including Kett Harrington's character like that he's He's uh, kind of like not in that film much at all We've almost filled up like all lighter a whole screed of chat saying say it Say it say it All right, fine. I'll say it real quick mute if you really don't want to hear it. Um, What I gather it is gonna be is his name eros Yes, that's Thanos's bro His brother. Yeah, he's gonna be like you killed my theno dick Now I'm all sad. See this is the thing. I think it's played by um, Harry Styles, right? That's what I've I'm not that bothered. Um I'm all concerned if they do Mephisto doom or galactus because I actually care about them Which they will do I couldn't give less for fuck about eros. I was like who the fuck is that? Literally thumbs homosexual man the controls on this a yes Um Yeah, uh probably not covering one if no and the second one is you're gonna cover sk's homecoming video um Well, I mean It's well, I've seen it. I don't I don't yeah, I've seen it too I think it's very good. It's shit. I've also seen it. Love very good. Yeah, it's really bad There's pretty good Well, that's all right, but I think it would have made a good e-fap Yeah, probably. Um, it would be a good way to explore Uh, sort of the the specific like how homecoming does Do a fantastic job of coming together. Um, it has it made us appreciate that movie all the better It really did remind us about how good homecoming really is in terms of its construction and characters and stuff There's so much that homecoming just nails And it's it kind of it does impress me to this day thinking about it because it was it came out right when I was like man It would be nice to have more mcu movies with definitive, uh Soundtracks that are original. It would be nice to have ones that do a better job of wheel building It would be nice to have lower stakes lower instead of like the wheel flowing apart And it would be nice For the interaction and the the will to react to the fact that superheroes are all over and of course civil war does all these things But uh homecoming was soon after because I remember doctor strange. I do like the character but the film Like I remember seeing she's been like, oh man, this is fucking nonsense Yeah Um, but homecoming was sort of a breath of fresh air again. Just like thank fuck. It's not over. Okay. We're still in it. We're still in it We're interested in actually taking advantage of this world. But yeah, it's uh Yeah, I yeah the video reminded me of how much I liked that film Paradoxically considering that the point was that it's terrible, but Yeah, the arguments weren't very what I find interesting is how much is omitted in the video in terms of just The film scenes. We're not yeah, we're interested in talking about a lot of stuff in that film We're just skipping Past a bunch of context stuff that could be really important that we just we don't care to talk about We don't really care to talk about what's good about it Yeah, my point was more so so much isn't talked about because I imagine it's stuff that's pretty good And so that point is like because if I don't think there's a scene in black widow I didn't talk about And that's why I'm more comfortable with saying it's it's possibly like the only film that'll possibly beat it It's gonna be end game because of all the time travel stuff But like black widow is about as bad as you should ever be able to get like it's like damn you fucked up everything It's nice and time. Yeah, because they have the the song being sung by a laxie. It's like, okay You did that Um, they have the good performance from florins pew Like that one more. You know what I mean? Like these things were measured just because I was just like, yeah That's about what I pulled out of that film for being strong um And yeah far from home like if we were to specifically just talk extensively about all the good stuff in it, man It would take a while And so it would because that has good stuff in it. Yeah And I want to say uh, he brought up a lot of valid flaws that are in the film But the thing is like these are there's there's like five or something in total and it's just like the film does really fucking well Um, yeah, it's still easily top tier mcu. Like it's if I was to honestly rank it. It's probably Top five possibly higher than that I mean for me, it's I think of my top probably my top three. Yeah, I was gonna say civil war Avengers the ones it would try and beat right Yes Yeah Yeah, it's really good. Um, yeah guardians too. Yeah guardians. I mean as well. Yeah But I mean, I I mean if that video was meant to convince me otherwise very well Yeah Uh on one hand, I'm glad you guys got to watch a good movie on the other hand bad movies are way funnier for efap also high rags Hello, I mean that's fair Yeah, I guess But I mean you guys are getting one per week with efap movies right now of just the greatest films of all times No worries about that also Um, I've decided we are going to try and keep it a secret until literally the trailer comes out For next year's stuff, but we've already completely recorded next year's halloween ock Yeah It was good fun Um, I don't think it's a secret for what movie series we're doing though I'm pretty sure we've already said it before and I don't mind people are not Tom's secrets there are some surprises. I will say the secrets will be Presumably the cast of that of that series. It is an interesting cast a slightly unusual one Um, but yeah, I think I've already sat on a stream before it was final destination So it's already the cats out of the bag without but uh, it was it was an interesting fun little ock for halloween And I just like the system we have set up here where everyone's sort of Listening and reacting to the residual stuff while we're recording the next one and it's just How long is it? It's a I like october a lot, you know, I've said it before it's just it's a fun time of year Um, but at the same time Probably gonna be recording a lot of arcs now I could use two hours more a day so I can catch up on sleep Why would you want to catch up on sleep? Because I'm tired Yeah, I've been my sleep's been really Weird lately like I I laid down for many hours before e-fap Just like between when we uh, we thought we spoke last I have not been able to sleep I laid down and I closed my eyes and I I just couldn't sleep And till about an hour before e-fap started and then I was I was finally able to like Oh, yes, I could sleep. It was like not too late. I had a bit of that unfortunately I did not get the sleep I was looking for today. Um You never know with life sometimes it can be a dick Yeah, I don't know in the orb shop. They have a little game cube. That's a dora bubble Oh, look that was back when like when you play pokemon. It's like oh my game My uh, my game cube is there and I can connect it to my game boy advance Beautiful times little town. Yeah Um Fido is another good zombie film I don't know this one. Do you guys know this one fighter zombie film? No, I don't Uh, when tonion did the snap how many people then succ doku'd themselves after finding their loved ones at succ doku'd themselves after Yeah, there's no fucking way marvel's willing to talk about that. Yeah It'd be so fucking cool if they had an r-rated movie strictly because of how dark what they're dealing with is not because of any particular violent Or sexual scene. It's just it's so fucked up. What's happening? Yeah It's uh, it's you missed an opportunity to tell a very interesting story Um to find out about it more about that in Whenever it's done video Bring ease video on endgame coming soon. Yeah coming at some stage Uh The dead and its seek will terrify me because I don't want to be the only SWM in a third world country during a zed apocalypse Oh straight white male. I understand I mean, I feel like whether or not you're a straight white male. You're gonna get eaten anyway Zombies don't really matter. Just do Pride and prejudice and zombies is really good. I wouldn't mind seeing that it sounds like it's uh, yeah Yeah, we could have uh, yeah that Abraham Lincoln vampire slayer. Yeah, there's gotta be a selection of those kinds of like Weird variant movies and stuff like that Uh, you should also check out escape from mogadishu another korean movie that's quite entertaining and it's a true story Well We've never heard of that. I haven't A sound machine. Yeah, I've I've tried that. I just sometimes I just I just can't sleep Someone run it a bit on fumes now So mostly we are on a wednesday the Full eFab which uh, we've been doing a lot of wednesday. Um streams recently. It's uh, yeah Stay alive everybody. We could do it. I guess I can sleep But then this pesky work comes along and wants me to wake up to stuff It's like no, yeah other worldly responsibilities really do get in the way Yeah, like oh life. Oh You want money better get that work done. It's like, yes Um, I love it when you guys cover good stuff halloween greater than christmas We still cover good stuff on christmas too. We cover jingle all the way one of the greatest movies all the time Creamy Uh Any chance of a home alone arc home sweet home alone looks horrible. Oh and high racks Hello. Yep. We got a new home alone coming out. Um, I'm sure it'll be great. Oh, that's so yeah Yeah, this christmas day you're getting eFab movies home alone I think we'll probably try and record one or two this year. Um, we'll figure out some christmas Should be pretty simple like um the santa claws is the woman tim ellon. That's probably what we should do, right? Um careful guys if patrick williams sees characters behaving intelligently in a movie he might have a stroke He's just he's just not aware. That's a thing. He had no idea. He was like, what? How can you have drama with people who aren't stupid? What the hell? Uh, what would you say to someone who thinks that cinematography camera angles and shears is more important than writing when making a movie? Uh, I mean I would I would obviously try and talk with them with their reasoning But I'd probably like you and I are probably not going to get along very well in terms of discussing our values and storytelling So yeah, and that's totally fine. Um, I would though ask them what their favorite things for cinematography arcs would be cool to check them out Like what school is the highest or whatever? Um, but I don't know that There's anybody who doesn't like go to movies at least in some way because they just want to be told a great story I think you can get sidetracked with other things Like man, that's humans. We love stories for a bit. It's a bit of a bit addicted to them Um, but it sounds like an interesting person regardless Look, you know, like if we're talking like writing that's literally like just sludge on a page But it's really gorgeous to look at. I just I'd be interested if they called that a good story Because they called it a good movie is just We might be semantics at that point What picks would you give slow zombies to even the odds against humans? so probably big on super strength and Super regenerative like you could maybe shoot them in the arm that takes seconds for it to heal up Yeah, super resilient or They are extremely contagious in terms of the zombie Like virus whatever it is you just can't get anywhere near them There it's super. It's it's very very easy to get very easy to catch Yeah, where you have to just isolate yourself in the middle of the fucking woods And go anywhere near suburbs or cities anything like that I'll lay down my pride and be honest teared up when the girl was crying papa at the end Haven't cried that hard since tlj. Why did they do that to luke? He just picks you in the sit of a bowling your eyes out so it's like I know They fucked him up. Why should they do it? Oh the horror uh, but yeah There's a that's a rid I don't I think I'm if he says well I'm totally fine with people tearing up watching media Especially in moments like that where the whole story is about the relationship between the daughter and the and the father It's designed to make you feel stuff Um any of you interested in speculative evolution Serena a natural history of the world of birds by sheath Shether or sheather eight eight eight is my favorite personally speculative evolution Is I like you speculate on where evolution could go or maybe yeah, I assume Yeah, because I speculative evolution Reddit is the first thing that comes up All right, apparently it's a genre of speculative fiction and an artistic movement focused on hypothetical scenarios in the evolution of nothing life Yeah, could be interesting. Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah Um Hey fringies fringies fringies. Oh, hey I recall you saying that there are too many fe fighters in smash ultimate But aren't they just as many mario and pokemon fighters as well? They play styles off also offer different from each other Okay, the rosters for super smash brothers I think should be dictated by the relevance and popularity of that franchise Like it's influence. I think that just makes sense Mario is nintendo's biggest franchise. It's their most important franchise It makes sense, but there to be a lot of mario characters fire emblem only got popular recently And even as popular as it is it's still not as popular as mario They're all of them have swords They're different sure but there are a bunch of them who are duplicates And then they just admit that they're duplicates when they have them as echo fighters It makes sense to have 10 mario characters It doesn't make sense to have 10 fire emblem characters If I can get rid of one of those fire emblem characters so that I can get fucking warluigi Hell, yeah, get him the fuck out of here. I'm sorry And it's same for pokemon pokemon has earned the right to have like 10 characters. It has fucking huge Yep, legend of zelda has more of a right to have 10 characters Legend of zelda. Well, there's that as well. They're all fundamentally different from one another I can't believe when people I remember this happened and like it happened in 2014 or something And I got into an argument with someone it's like well fire emblem awakening was really popular Come on. Are we are we seriously going to pretend like fire emblem is as popular as mario or like as relevant as mario as important as mario It's nowhere. It's nowhere near that at all Like if if we have to put in a fire emblem character, especially when they get added as dlc And because of that we lose somebody else that we could have added instead Like get get no way. I'm sorry like get rid of blithe bileth or whatever he's called Put in fucking crash put in dante put in someone else anybody else Anybody I would much rather than just adding another fire emblem character There you go, that's the answer. I'm totally cool with them having fun I just get really annoyed when people say that because it's like dude I'm totally fine with like fucking you can have like five characters even that It's probably more than there should be but you know, you can have like five or six characters. That's totally fine But it's it like I don't see how that's an argument at all But there's a lot of mario characters. There are a lot of mario characters There are and they're very different from each other and it's mario They've absolutely earned the right to have that many characters in the roster And plus You kind of cheated a little bit there because yoshi and donkey kong technically different franchises They're technically different franchises They're all part of the broad mario umbrella, but yoshi's got his own games donkey kong's got his own games I don't even think those count in terms of taking up the roster And if you're like sitting there telling me well, who would you remove from the roster? It's like, well, let's go through the list mario staying louise. She's definitely staying peach is staying bowser staying yoshi She's definitely staying donkey kong staying diddy kong staying So who it warrior staying for sure Um, so who can we get rid of rosalina? Nah, we'll keep her in she's kind of a unique character to have Daisy's an echo. So that's totally fine. Who are we getting rid of piranha plant? Oh, yeah, we're swapping out with wallowichi But we we ain't getting rid of hey look yoshi says yoshi That's how that's how yoshi pronounces its own name when you say yoshi That's not how yoshi says his own name Yoshi, that's well, he doesn't say it quite like that, but he says it kind of like that I'm with you for any don't worry. Yeah back buddy. Yeah, exactly Yeah, uh, so that that's my answer I don't think that fire emblem should have 10 characters it makes sense for mario makes sense for pokemon Honestly makes more sense. Like there were there were more fire emblem characters than there are legend of zelda characters Oh I'm pretty sure there are I think yeah, because i'm pretty sure uh, they've only got like six character. I say only that's a that's a decent amount of people but like six And two of them are two variants of link Well, there's like you yeah, there's link young link and toon link, right? Yeah Yeah, they're pretty similar to each other. They're a little bit different, but Oh, no, we need more anime swordsman Oh, by the way, this is a bit of a weird time to randomly put up I just noticed he was in chat again. There's um I I saw this by happenstads that I was like, that's not the same day Is it there's a kind of guy called steven rickha in in chat Um, just like his chattel the check that out. I'm gonna show it on the screen as well Like I love the idea that someone who's making these fucking things is listening to efab casually Yeah, oh shit. That's incredible work. Oh my god. What the fuck this shit so Not I haven't even seen venom to not that I would need to but um This is fucking sculpture work. Dude, can you do the thing? Have you done anything related to that? I feel like that would be really neat Oh damn, that looks awesome Yeah This is a fucking sculpture work man. It's fucking amazing. Hey, um, if you want You can come on sometime and talk about sculpting This is uh, that'd be fun. Look at this shit I'll play the role of someone who doesn't know anything about sculpting who can ask all the basic questions Not like us who know everything about sculpting. Yeah, these guys are these guys are rafael's and whatnot. They can sculpt away I made seven sculptures while we were talking about trying to buzz on Can we see them? no Already sold. Yeah, is it he listens while he sculpts? That's fucking awesome dude That's really cool. Do you do commissions? Obviously if it's under a million pound, I would totally Man, some of these look fucking great. I say some of them the ones I've seen because Anyway, I don't know. I was just I was just surprised that that work is like movie quality shit Yeah, really cool. Um, anyway back to mario party of course Yeah, oh, yeah for anybody who's curious. That's the channel name is steven rickton. He's done Shit ton of movie stuff from what I've seen I shall check out some more in my spare time Very nice Some say that he'll lay down a kung pao on unruly train passengers and that he's not very fond of fund managers All we know is he's not the dawn, but he is the dawn's korean cousin They are connected It would make sense that the the blood that fills the veins of the dawn would somehow be going through chat as well, you know Oh, definitely only lines up Um Happy halloween mola rags ringing metal and dank happy halloween Howdy, happy halloween evap on my day off. What the fuck? What am I gonna do while I pretend to work on the weekend? Well, wait your day. No wait, sorry, but in um and ready player one It has to be off today because you know Fuck you. You don't get to play video games. I saw those tuesdays and thursdays on in that stupid. All right. What's those pay over here? I uh Oh, right. Yeah, I made a mistake. But still the point stands You have your days off on tuesday and thursday, you don't get to play video games because this is great You always make fun of that, but I think mandatory times in which you are allowed or not allowed to have recreational activities Is something that people will love. Uh, yeah ready player one is ahead of its time Hey, look, I have lots of money at a hot girlfriend. So Everybody should not be allowed to play video games Dude, it's amazing because you know that he was like, I'll probably play like monday's wednesdays Uh fridays saturday sunday. Yeah, we'll just knock off tuesdays and thursdays because I'll go on dates with her. Everyone will like this Okay Uh, what's that a reference to ready player one ready player one at Or I was just gonna say we'll probably watch that free fat movies at some point easily Yeah, fucking you terrible, baby The book is worse. Sorry I can believe it. The book is really bad. Yeah It's a noise everybody because you I was recognizing so much stuff that I like and they just annoyed me. I was like, oh, there's that Hey, that's that's master chief. Look, there's uh, there's ready. That's like, uh, there's the iron giant except The context is totally different. I enjoy being used as a weapon Yeah Hey, isn't it cool this cool weapon that didn't want to be a weapon Good stuff Like I said, we'll probably check it out. Also, um, you get an e-fap on saturday as well. No worries So the door you'll be able to pretend you're not working then as well And then another one on wednesday because e-faps in a weird time in october just stuff happens every all of this stuff Yay The asian version of chad is chang I think chad transcends any origin. Yeah chad transcends borders. You could be a chad worm You know depending on how fucking awesome. There are definitely chad worms out there. Yeah Tfa pot for when I need my fix molly moogaloo Uh, no promises on when so I think we'll probably stop when I get to the end of today's super chats because I would like to do a little bit More work this week and uh, if I can shove it in where I can find it I will not saying i'm working on anything in particular. Just just quick just quick Oh When rags can go to sleep I can go to sleep now that I finally can't actually go to sleep Train to hasan all aboard the nuggie express I will never be looking at the nuggies the same since that happens. I will still consume them happily Oh, yeah, you know what you've just made me think I want chicken nuggies for lunch Just just a bunch of nuggies in my tummy Uh rip chad q mgs3 music when saluting boss grave. Yeah Sad moment for everybody the second he's bit everybody's watching that movie goes. No He's gonna be hey look. I I will be happy to see him in eternals. That'll be neat I hope I'm happy to see him in that movie. I really hope that doesn't happen to be fair. It's probably for the best Well, right. Well, I guess it's just I want to see him doing stuff, you know, because he's uh, he's a cool character And he seems like cool, dude. Oh, yeah Paddington efab movie for Christmas Uh I've heard any that's a bear one right? Yes, I'm pretty sure Paddington is one of the highest rated films of all time Like what the it's considered excellent I don't know if that like I have no idea if I would wear free fat movies or not Well, because it might just be us having a fun time with a quaint little movie about a bear No, I don't know Yeah, yeah movie Let me take a look because I just I'm pretty sure of no, I don't want Paddington the area Come on. You should have known that I went the bear Hey Paddington's very fucking Interacted with in the world. Okay as a place Yeah, well, yeah because Paddington the disambiguation on Wikipedia my number my go-to number one stop for information There's so much There's Paddington the bear the character then the tv series then another tv series then another tv series then a film series Yeah, so um, let me let me see Uh the critical reception Oh, well, it's just got a really high Rotten tomato score. Okay, but it has a high average score too. That's that's um Because rotten tomatoes are super useful as a metric. That's cool. Oh, yeah Uh, I finished metroid dread molla. Have you played it? If so, please tell us about it If not, please consider streaming it for spooky month also higher act Hi, hi, I can't stream switch stuff right now, but this like when I'm trying I'm probably gonna get a new setup eventually. Let's say within the year. Not sure. Um I'm when I do I'll probably figure out how to get switch working. If I get that stream And I'll totally do metroid dread on this dream. That'd be fun You should play it though. It's really good. Oh an update for chat I finished the hard playthrough But I didn't I didn't beat it quickly enough. So I still don't have all the concept art Why fucking lose it? Should I should I play hard mode on my first playthrough? You can't play it on your first playthrough. You have to unlock hard mode by beating it on normal fucking idiot Hey, shut the fuck up mutually Metroid Speaking to your own mother that way Hey, look at the game that you're playing Yeah Look at it Okay It's just it's just interesting. That's all. Yes. That was a deep little video game They have that that minigame is kind of in pummel pie, but much harder in pummel pie Um red is six out of ten get out of here six out of ten. You can't be no Fuck about free beat them all up. No, it's it's okay. I'm uh, I'm killing jill today I just I I I will respectfully disagree So we go Buck mary kill yukari takiba cheese setonaka and and toka moki I don't fucking know what are these places? Let me get let me These could be food groups. I'm not sure Okay, um So I think I'm gonna peace out now and try to get some sleep for this amazing Very well, mr. Matul, uh, are we watching more squid game tomorrow you guys around I believe so Yeah Cool That's all I will see you then. Okay. Bye. Bye metal sleep boy. Bye Beautiful Um, should we just leave that one to chat. I have no idea who these people are I don't know. I don't know who they are. Yeah I'll read it out again. Well everyone in chat Give you a vote. I'm looking at him now. I'm gonna kill and takamaki I'm gonna Fuck cheese so tonaka sato naka And I'm gonna marry yukari takiba All right. I second that I guess based purely on observation of their looks I just looked up the first one. This is like an anime character. What age are they? I assume they're of age Yeah, I don't know. The first one I looked up said they're a student at high school Oh, fuck off. It's anime for you. No, kill them all Only yeah, the answers only apply if legal obviously Yes, obviously, I don't I don't fucking tell it's anime. They could be 10 or 10,000. It just doesn't fuck I don't I don't care kill them all Imagine how much fun being an extra is in this would be I've done zombie extra stuff before and all I could think of is how fun it would be to be in I could see that being pretty amusing because you've got like free reign to just do fucking crazy shit And you very well might actually add to the creep factor of the whole movie, you know Like fucking go nuts fling your arms around make some weird contortions also make grumbly horrible spitting noises and stuff It's gonna be a wild fucking appearance as a actor, I guess probably I Could say you met there. I guess you could say metal lost his train of thought. Ha ha zombies go choo choo They do S s e w choo choo. Yeah, they do that's how they spelled it in this Oh, yeah, nice. Nice indeed Chew train I meant fat garrel also seth too, but to be honest I'm not Before I understand I'm gonna see if there was a Oh, um, you met fat garrel about how fat garrel was the only good character in uh, the last of us two I understand And seth the the sandwich misogynist or whatever. I don't remember Um, American remake could be titled train to toosan Oh Great train to tuxi Do do I mean, we'll have to see what they do with that. I'm not looking forward to it Um You see the departed the departed was based on internal affairs. I've heard that I need to see internal affairs I guess then to see what what's like how it how it compares Um, check out an elephant standing still I don't know if that's the name of a movie I mean, I've seen I've seen images of elves studying studio It's uh, sure, maybe watch the swedish vampire film laden Ratekoma in let the right one in child a great child acting at cinematography I've heard that one get recommended quite a few times as well. Yeah um Hey daddy dank got advice for becoming a submissive and breathable fanboy I'm afraid he's uh, he's gone so he can't provide the insight on that one, but yeah, maybe next time Maybe next time. Yeah Um other good korean movies are the man from nowhere and the witch subversion Have you seen them? Uh, no, I haven't No, did you say you'd seen them for you? I said can't said I have all right Have you guys seen slither? That's uh, no, I have not no I want to see that though. Um, it's like James gun horror movie that I've heard is is pretty fun But also creepiest fucking stuff in different ways like gross out stuff in there. So I don't know it might be interesting Um, the best shot in the film is the zombies jumping over the camera in the train yard Cinematography in this film is so purposeful and fantastic Yeah, I honestly there's not an element in the film that's not, um being utilized pretty damn well You can tell a lot of work went into it, you know Yes They didn't laze either way through it Peace offering from dubah media. You didn't say high rags. So I don't know. I just I don't see it Uh, when did remarkable republican fuse with cinema wins? Oh my goodness the person we covered today. I mean Is it the voice because uh, I was like a voice the voice isn't well A little bit regardless He was totally doing cinema things, which is the worst of cinema sins and wins put together really Sometimes they can say things that are interesting or true, you know sometimes Oh god sin counter prepare for maximum tism. Yeah, I know we got through it quick though is okay I think most people survived Um, a great u.s. Movie I saw recently rare. I know was the guilty Um, I'm not gonna read the premise because that's a film I saw recently too And I won't freeing in rags to see it without knowing anything about it But uh, the premise is something that we've actually talked about before Um, I'm pretty sure us three have talked about an efab before actually And uh, when I found out that's what it was. I was like, oh, this is fucking neat. Okay, cool. Let's do it Um, but yes everyone go check out the guilty starring jake jillian hall do it The new film is pretty damn good The dawn would have cured the zombies. Love you efab. Yeah, you would have but um You know someone someone got in the way Someone brought his hand and while he was in hospital. Yeah, he couldn't he couldn't go and help Sucks, but no, it's reality Yeah You are trying to steal what I have rightfully kidnapped. Please watch the princess bride. It would make my fucking year also high rags Um, hello, we could definitely do that I haven't seen it. I think that movie would work with efab movies quite well Our controls on this are wild as well January to october 10 months of listening daily from episode 1 to episode 157 the expanded universe minis movies and most of gaming so much content boys I believe I've reached balls above wang status don't bless high ranks. Wow. That's getting up there Yeah, I'm just it's just cool to hear. I'm glad you enjoyed it that much. Um more to come Genuinely speaking we we are honestly at like 30 fat movies that have not been processed yet Yeah, uh lifetime supply of nuggies though All right, like if I could have a lifetime supply held. Yeah I mean I mean, I feel like there's a lot of uses you can make of that Yeah, I feel like nuggies are easy enough to obtain as it is, you know Sure, but I mean imagine if you had like a Scrooge McDuck pool of nuggies that you could just dive into Jump in it and swim around in nuggies swim around in the nuggets That's everyone's dream. I think definitely Yeah, I mean people want to have a pool of spaghetti or whatever some people You know a nuggie nuggie pond Some people just want to watch the nuggies exist Our men just want nuggies The size of a nuggie, yeah, nuggie the size of a nuggie Uh, have you read Hassan stream super chats yet can't wait for you to read out all the funny things I called that cave dwelling knuckle dragon gorilla. Oh my god He's a very intelligent man. I don't know what you mean. He just started a political podcast with another intellectual known as h3 H3 so I Feel like insulting his intelligence Oh, shit, I don't know who can I challenge for star luigi? Let's do it, buddy. I'm gonna lose this But yeah, we've not Uh done that yet But we'll get we'll get there. I think those are the ones that come after the then next up for the catch-up Oh, okay I know what you guys love. Jared Leto's performance in suicide squad. How do you feel on a rumored solo movie? No way No fucking way No way first. No way they would do that. They know that where that come from Oh, you made that up. I was gonna say just did someone say it and then someone said someone said that and it just got around. Yeah Someone said it and the next person who heard it says oh a rumor Whoa Because I don't think anybody in the universe wants that to happen. Okay. Just stop Remember when they said they'd fixed him in the snider cut remember that? Yeah, he's good now guys. It's like wow I can't believe that shit. That's possibly one of the worst lines is in this night. Why did he have him say he's gonna fucking Give him and reach around. Why did why was that sniders vision? Why was that written down? Snider your vision is strange Just tease for a movie that's never gonna happen I Isn't he busy being mobius or whatever? Yeah, he's moving on probably just he can be a vampire guy. There you go I guess he's not busy doing that because that movie is being like sitting around ready to go for two years at this point That would be funny if you passionately created it that they were like it won't release like four years. You're like Well, I mean it was meant to come out like in july or august of 2020 But then covid stuff and now it's coming out next year. Yeah I'm you covid Yeah I wanted to say thanks for helping me stay sane amongst the passing of my dad and my mom being hospitalized Watching efap has been a huge help mentally We just know the heartfelt. Thank you and a big high rags to the bestest boy Oh, hello. Sorry to hear about all that man. Yeah, I hope you mom's been better. Hope you're doing all right and uh, yeah Good vibes for a lot of the that's what we're here for to it to a degree outside of just trying to sort of break down writing and stuff Yeah, we want to make your days go better Uh, happy to see my three favorite youtubers on stream together. Then there is that gym and hobo. Sorry metal Gym hobo That's why I hired him. I was like hey, will you take pay but in the form of Just just being here and he's like, okay You can pull him right off the street right into efap Chad's cousin could have saved them all but somebody broke his hand and stole his motorcycle and he missed his flight. Oh, there you go They made the same observation that we did um SK's homecoming video is super disingenuous and gets frustrating the further you get in He has a couple of points that aren't terrible though Um, yeah, so I'd say the main issue with that video and the analysis in general is that there seems to be this uh it feels like a uh you're You've misused the tools in a certain sense like It is not it is not a flaw when a character makes a decision that you disagree with or even a decision that was kind of stupid Um or even very stupid the fundamental question is is that a decision that it makes sense for that character? to have made. Yeah, um And and if it's and if it doesn't then we're dealing with a problem So for instance if you tell me like this guy is incredibly intelligent and he picks the absolute I I'll just use the end game example because it's really easy The final battle of end game kind of ruins all of those characters in terms of intelligence because you've got 20 or 30 people Who are really smart and a lot of whom were tacticians over the course of a long time Like they were in the military or they have some level of experience in this and they all just unanimously agreed to do the dumbest thing possible Like while failing to leverage all of the other options that they have to do To basically win that battle easily like at that point We're dealing with a decision that's so unbelievably stupid that there is no way that I can believe that they all agree to do it Like it's just it's ridiculous. It never would have happened. Um Conversely a 15 year old kid who's trying to be a superhero making mistakes Like that's that just makes that happens like that's not surprising. That's not a flaw Yeah, just um, yeah somebody makes decisions that are sub optimal as a kid Who is inexperienced and in certain situations panicking under stress conflicting thoughts. Yeah Uh, I find that he's Ask it just has a little bit of tunnel vision with motivation Like uh, if he discovers what he believes to be like the sort of best thing the character can do It'll be the only thing the character should do or would do rather Yeah It's just a little bit odd sometimes to listen to because you're just like, oh well, it's because they're characterized this way That's why they're making that choice. It's like it is sub optimal and like homecoming is a film that Is because one of the things I praised it for I think when I was first talking about it on eFap was that um The challenge was to try and recreate A spider-man story that everyone is kind of familiar with as an origin point Like spider-man 1 And so the lesson is still going to have to be learning about the nature of responsibility But you can't just retell spider-man 1 Um, and so it's like how do we do it? It's like you also we don't want to show Uncle Ben's death and we don't want to have with great power comes great responsibility Because how distracting is that as a person who's watching you just like yeah, I saw this in spider-man 1 And so like in a meta sense they're like, how can we do this in a different way? And um the film is chock full Of peter being like high on the hero life as a result of civil war I'm just making some really bad decisions. But um They're all from his point of view something that's not only good but helpful. Yeah I think that's a big thing like it is not a flaw that a character has not completed their arc yet Like the character's making mistakes as part of stories If they're working towards it, like that's the arc that they're trying to go on that They're trying to overcome that I guess a great example of this would be as chad is heading toward the door and Main guy blocks it on him. I could be like there was plenty of time to let them in This is fucking what a stupid decision he made and The idea that this human being can see that there's room to let them in then close the door, but doesn't Like that that's just trying to create drama where there isn't any Just be like well you have to think about him his position He's just like I think he commits to the safer choice of locking the door on them when he hasn't thought it through Entirely and just doesn't want any zombies to get through and he's panicking There's so much human nature in a lot of the Scenarios that like it Well to be fair we did a lot today with that video we were covering where he was like wow You're taking so long to react to things. It's like humans freeze like crazy in all these kinds of scenarios Remember these are people like I meant to believe that they're people people make people make Just it people tend to act rationally within the framework that they're operating in Like it's not often that somebody will make a decision that they recognize to be irrational Um, so it's all about understanding what that character believes and what their perspective is Unlike a kid. Yeah, like like yeah like a 15 year old kid who wants to be superhero to be like his idols And he's making brash decisions and it's all part of the arc of him basically becoming more responsible Like it is not a flaw that he does things that are like Irresponsible because that's that's like the point. He's working towards becoming a responsible person He's doing it wrong and the story recognizes that he's doing it wrong. It's not a flaw Yes, I I just I I think Uh sk and I or sk and I sweet which don't quite break things down the same way. That's totally fine He can do it the way he wants, but it's just like it's just not how I view a lot of these uh These films I don't want everyone making what bothers like, you know, like cap going for his suit before sorting out Um the triskelion that infinitely infuriates me like it's so wrong. It should not be happening And you could be like And I'm just like it's just so arrogant like what the fuck are you doing? This is what batwoman does, dude Yeah, like time is of the essence. You ain't got time to fuck around like you need to get going um Yeah, and I I just I will say though, there were parts in that because um, I don't know what this meme is But it's it's like some meme where Hey, I'm just gonna repeat the thing that you should be doing in this particular instance So like hit him hit him hit him as like a scene is playing out But like that, but it just doesn't follow like what's being said Oh, yeah, what this character should be doing whether or not they were like valid in in their moments I would seriously just recommendation. Um, I often couldn't make out the original scene because of this He had like tasm 2 over it amazing Yeah, spider-man two thing of the whistling. I can't see what's happening I know that you need it it works for copyright in a way and I I'm guessing like I'm sure he thinks it's pretty funny And several people might think it's funny. I I just I was often confused and then I was like getting a little bit annoyed I was just this is going on really long And like just doing the same jokes seven or eight times in the video as well There are just there are ways to translate the the joke in a punchy way And in a sense you might want to try and change it up each time right to keep the viewer engaged Uh, yeah And I didn't quite get why I kept seeing electro. I think it might be an in-house meme sort of thing Maybe but I mean you should expect that people who aren't in house are going to be watching the video It's like they might just get confused, you know Well, yeah, um Yeah, that's I mean So it's always frustrating watch it so we chill again homecoming in civil war They're just they're films that for years. I have listened to people try to fucking destroy them and I'm just sitting here awkwardly like Pretty damn good though Um, I don't know if you've discussed Eternals this e-fap, but can you answer me this? How are the Eternals different races if they existed before humans? Well, I think they exist like when humans are barely anything, right? They 7 000 years is that the time that they keep standing in the trailers I was gonna say that I have no idea what people yeah the nature of them are yet. So I'm not really gonna say much Yeah, we'll have to see the movie Uh And for you mauler baggings I give you gala glass legends from now and never more Our most symphonic power metal album may it kick ass eternally Hmm I've never heard of that band slash album, but I guess thanks for reckon recommend an amendment Um, let's hope Eternals gives Chad some good material to work with it won't I'm sorry No Or it will super underutilize and yeah, not only that but it'll just be probably pretty shit on its own, you know Um May it kick it. Oh wait, uh It'll be a shame to waste the character played by the absolute legend and high rags. Yeah Hi Yeah, sir, that's the worry um Hey mollington I highly recommend little nightmares one and two for streaming small fun games They're also creatures of the long in them your brethren my You guys heard of uh little nightmares No, I've heard of it. I don't really know anything about it though Yeah, I'm uh, I think I've heard of it. I just don't know much about the games Uh, eternals might have other races, but how is there a latina eternal selma hayak came into existence 60 ish 600 Ish years ago again. I can't comment on that until I've Watched whatever they're supposed to be people we have that people like who had that tone skin tone would exist But I yeah, I guess yeah, I don't I don't know. I don't know what the context is I don't think I carry there really. Yeah, I don't know I don't think an issue like that could ever elevate over the realm of like that's weird move on I guess well It's just like when we think about problems that that film is gonna have the big one is why the fuck did you Not help when Thanos was here like that's gonna be the big question and their excuse is gonna be terrible Well, I think their excuse that is like the one that they put in the trailer We're not allowed to it's like that that ain't good enough my friend like That's not good enough Like the only explanation could be if we hope they would have I don't know like nuked earth like the celestials Maybe and then that might be but then again like if they just nuked earth, but the whole universe is at stake Maybe that's a trade-off that you should be making anyway The kind of things that you have to put together to justify it, you know Can't wait to see what it is He means the accent. I don't again I Do we do we talk about how I'm got into the galaxy that we're speaking English And they all have accents. I don't yeah, like it's I don't know. This is we're going to have an accent anyway, so If it's going to be something, you know accent is true neutral kind of yeah the mother tongue Ringy you've said in the past that if you came to the u.s. You would want to go to the The pacific northwest as somebody from the pacific northwest. I was wondering have you considered unaliving yourself instead? Why is Why would I not want to Like why wouldn't people want to go to the pacific northwest? I don't know. I guess there's some lame stuff up there. It's not a beautiful natural scenery. Like it's gorgeous the landscapes um Like it feels like that uh Much because like when you're a kid and you watch like cartoons and then they have set like the wilderness That's kind of what I picture is the american wilderness is like what is up there Pine trees mountains bears deer all that stuff You should see the great yet brutal soviet union will war two movie come and see the child actor in it Is incredible his expression in the cover poster says it all I've seen a video on that. Uh, I I yeah, I think I'd like to watch that movie Fair enough It's not it's it's dark like that movie is dark based on that uh that video I watched about it We still have to watch the the soviet. Well, would they do the soviet lord of the rings? Yeah, if you really want it Yeah, I think they found um Some old ussr um lord of the rings animated thing That was just like not available beforehand. They just I guess they just found it in some archive or whatever. Who knows? If nintendo asked all of you which of their ip's to make into a movie whether it be live action or animated Which would you pick who would you cast as the characters for the film also? Hi Also, oh, sorry. It's not animated. It's a live action lord of the rings from 1991 So right right before the fall of the soviet union of It was it was broadcast once in 1991 by linengrad television And then thought lost and it was rediscovered in 2021 neat Uh question one more time Uh, so you got to choose one ip from nintendo live action or animated movie and who would you cast? Um I like the idea of a star fox movie Like an animated star fox movie Um, yeah, yeah, you can have action in there more furry bait always good. Um Who would who would voice that would voice fox right now fox needs to be like all american You know what you probably could do that and it would be fine because like yeah, I imagine smart fox being the all american sort of uh stand-in one, I guess i'm not I I think of uh for peppy. I'd want I'd want like, um I could imagine getting anthony hopkins to play peppy here Like playing the wise mentor or uh charles dance Just dance would be andros maybe uh, oh god, that could be really cool. Yeah, maybe willem defoe could be uh, maybe yeah um You know what uh, and i'm i guess i'm just thinking like falco. I probably want um Hmm Uh, i'm i'm not sure that's tough because i'm just thinking who would who would lend their voice really well to that And who would be a really good slippy Slippy could be Because you could put because slippy could be either like you could use an actor or an actress to be an actress He could yeah, uh, because remember a lot of like heart like debbie dairyberry Yeah, yeah, you know her she did a lot of voices like jimmy neutron and stuff No, tyros strong was uh, oh wait. No mix my tyros strong was uh jimmy from uh fairly old parents Um, he did um, also the name debbie dairyberry shit But yeah, she did all kinds of she did lots she was she was jj's voice. Damn Oh, and she's timie's voice. I knew I recognized her from somewhere. Yeah, that makes sense I know we've said it a few times timmy not jimmy timmy. Um, I know it's been said because we've said it a few times But metroid if you had gwenel and christia samus You could definitely fill the height of the suit. Um I don't know if people would want to see rather that you put someone like a more A petite lady in there and that it's a matter of the suit like maximizing I don't I guess I just I'm not fussed Like it's not not a big deal. I think gwenel and christie could pull it off. Yeah Yeah, yeah, maybe I guess to be you you could make her look battle hardened pretty easy I was gonna say you could take it a little bit of a different direction where she's like You know, I'm picturing her in some kind of just bar. That's uh And she's just like the between missions She's just just someone who uh, not many people that talk to you that much because of all that she's been through She stays away from people. Yeah, you get there's a story there. Yeah, that's absolutely a story there Emily blunts. Yeah, I'd be happy with that. Oh, of course. You're right chat ruby rose Of course needs to play samus slap a wig on her. I feel like Thomas Yeah, I don't know what samus is but uh, I feel like we should probably go for actresses though Damn What elizabeth I said ruby rose and you're like we should go for actresses instead and i'm like damn Yeah, she's I don't I don't know that I've never been convinced. She does anything professional in terms of an actress She's just a person that turns up. Oh, I thought you meant like an actor as opposed to an actress No, i'm saying she's very incompetent No, I see I see that now. I thought I'll give you something else Someone said margo robbie I mean, she probably could be really good in that role Don't let holly quinn. I was gonna say man That is that is a bit of a stain apparently because when I think of her like a holly quinn Get away from holly quinn margo. You can do it Hmm, I guess uh, I'm thinking like if you did legend of zelda It's like, who would you child's death? I just keep thinking child's death is like villains. Just gannon door Can you imagine like that'd be awesome? Yeah And I guess it's just who would you want is like lincoln zelda? It's like, I don't know. I feel like a lot of people could do that, you know tom holland is link Yeah, well, you know, I feel people would get annoyed with that casting at first. They'd be like, oh They would but then they'd remember that he's actually pretty good actor He's a great actor They shut up and then leave him alone and let him do the role um Gal Gadot is zelda. No Amelia clock is zelda. I that could be you have to stop again and he's You could do Amelia clock is zelda. That could be cool. Give her give her a more upbeat character to play Maybe maybe Yeah bubbly character has a fun little romance As long as link stays mute. Nah, he's talking in my movie Wow, he's definitely gonna be talking disrespecting the fans I definitely want him to talk. I want him to uh, I want him to have like, uh, we really build him up build him up and uh Like if you made that a series you could easily just focus like the first couple episodes on um Link living in his little town Things going normal. We get to know his relationships with his family and then the call to adventure But yeah, there's your answer. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. Uh do So no man of god the other night stars elisha wood as an FBI agent who befriends ted bundy to become a better profiler highly recommend Also, don't forget to watch fat man this year. You promised Fat man. Did I promise that? I don't know. I don't usually promise anything. I don't remember. Yeah But uh, make sure to not promise things because of how schedules go But uh, we'll try maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe big maybe all the maybes everywhere Uh, how about raven beak for smash bros fringy Uh, I'd be cool with that. Maybe it's too soon, but that could be cool He's a main villain of red. Yeah, main villain of uh, well because there aren't many metroid characters It like it took five games for riddly to get in there um I mean, you don't have many other people that hey, there are other people you could use but for smash. It's like you know You want to pick the real iconic people, you know It's probably too soon though for raven beak. You want to give it more time to see if he's has an enduring legacy You just remember when alternate dimension beth came into season one about one and I do their brains are melting each other Oh, yeah, that's right. And then they were gonna let alice die But then she got shot by ned flanders. Yeah, that was definitive by the way that it was like Ruby rose is gonna let like kate will let you die alice And it was like I remember the episode being like right then, you know, like we are definitively Fucking against each other. They flip that all the time. Yeah Yeah, they don't they don't care lads. Thanks for doing what you do. Just watched rags versus arnold the first Was howlin man quality rags versus arnold. What? Uh batman or robin, I think Oh, right Oh, it's not arnold the first it's arnold in the night. Okay. Yeah. No, that was that's the pun competition. Yeah, I remember now That was good shit because you guys came close, but I think he beat you by like one or something I think so he yeah, it was it was pretty good. That was a fun movie to watch. That was really great I recommend batman robin to every household Uh fat man free fat movies This is chris. I hate censorship Wait, they don't let you say fat man No Yeah, because they've had to spell it weirdly like Yeah, they're saying fat man is censored in super chats. Hi rags. I'm free. That is Stupid as fuck. Wow. What's going on? You got to protect people from being called fat man YouTube will let you have a channel where you eat yourself to death and that's fine Just don't say fat man in a super chat. What would be mean? Hi rags Hello Buck mary kills samus zelda peach Um I want to marry samus and go on all kinds of crazy adventures Um I don't know who has more personality than zelda repeat. I'm gonna have to defer to free me on this one uh Then again, I guess you could marry zelda. You could be like because I'm not like a zelda expert by any means Like I'm actually not played a lot of zelda at all If you married zelda, wouldn't you be like a king and also Well, so But also you need to which zelda there are a lot of different zeldas Like do I is it twilight princess? Is it is it um, is it like ocarina of time? Is it Uh breath of uh breath of love like which zelda we're talking about? Wow, I mean, it's probably not to be specified. I guess you take your pick. Um, I mean I I would uh Hmm I'd probably yeah, I'm alternating. Yeah, I'm alternating between marrying samus and marrying zelda You don't want to be king of the mushroom kingdom Um, I guess that's just too fantastical in a way like I can't really relate to actually living in that world If that makes sense. Where is your life? Yeah, I'd feel so out of place and you know, um But I I think I'm gonna Um, I don't know. I guess I I feel like I'm selling peach like peach might be really fun to hang out with Um, in or off time when she's not being kidnapped I mean, she's not fun when she's kidnapped Well, I'm just saying I feel a fun Just got other things on my mind when she's being kidnapped. I'm just saying like peach. She she seems like a bubbly fun person Mm-hmm When she's again, but you just have to deal with the kidnappings like that would be well, I guess she wouldn't have to be fucked That would be one and done I guess zelda like looks like more of a real human being Yeah, um It's really tough to choose between uh Uh samus and zelda Because because you know marrying them you get to live in like in their world and do stuff with them I think I'd rather live in the metroid world than in uh Hyrule, you know like for all of the issues with like metroids and space pirates and stuff This is a society in the future with tech and things Yeah It's more relatable to me like it's like traveling around Going on mission That's assuming that that's the case we could just presume that they'll live in our world In that case I might If they were gonna live in our world, I think that I would want to Fuck samus and mary zelda stop saying samus I just it's an old habit No, that's that's what uh, that's what the announcer in melee calls. So samus. Oh, you're right. What are you doing? What are you doing? In that case, where would we have learned it was samus then Uh, I'm not sure Um But it is samus. That's that's a name I probably legit picked it up from a single person. Uh, well when I was yeah I think it's reasonably picked up from the announcer that makes sense Well for me it was this goes before then this is talking about like the early Metroid stuff the the game boys and things like that because I had friends who Had video games and game boys and nintendo's and all that sort of thing and I didn't have them And so when they would specifically when one of my best friends in particular growing up when he would talk about them Whatever he called her. I probably just picked it up from him and it got just ingrained because that's how he said it Because that's really the only time I ever heard that name was when he was talking about the character in a game I was about to say it doesn't is the announcer brawl that says samus like someone says that he does say samus. He does yeah All right, what a what a strange adventure Um, so yeah, I guess if they just transport into our worlds, I mean I don't I don't even know The characters I guess I'll Thorough enough that I know what I'm looking for for each of them. Yeah I think I'd feel bad like leaving samus here On our planet without starships and space and stuff like that, you know Like she would just be so out of place and it wouldn't fit But with zelda, I feel like I could bring zelda here and be like, yeah, you know, this is you know, she'd be able to I guess live more normally in a way. I don't know I think I'm marrying samus for sure. Actually now that I think about it. I think I want to marry Yeah, it's it's really tough to decide. I'm not I don't even think I've I could I don't even know Are you uh, who you killing? um I think you know, I think I'll get rid of peach. I think I'm killing peach in every scenario. Yeah Well by peach All right, uh, getty's big for war movies e-fab arc four-hour epic featuring five thousand reenactors supporting martin sheen as general lee and jeff daniels Is kernel chamberlin it also shows both sides is neither good nor evil Um, I haven't seen it. I have not seen that movie Well, they say would we do it for the war movies arc the thing is A four-hour movie. I don't know if we're gonna be able to pull that off Wow, that's uh, that's a lot to ask We did that once really not fun I feel like we could but the people we've got for the war movie arc might want to split that into two two hours Yeah, yeah, because surely it won't be as fucking dull and boring as Right Or a snider cut Telling your eggs the world is not ready for that kingdom of heaven take they never will be Oh, they need to fucking rewatch the movie The people who are most outrageous the ones that watch it religiously That's the thing. It's just um Fuck mary killed casca charlotte or slam all from berserk Uh, give me a second. Let me open up a tab Uh Casca the other two were charlotte and slam Uh Shar I'll just defeat a rags as results and slam No slam Slam, yeah, all right. Let's take a look here So slam is some kind of a weird succubus demon So Yeah, we can't do that Because she's like I guess she'll suck the life out of you. Yeah, you don't want to succubus around They'll get you Casca Um And charlotte. I don't know. I would I'd kill slam Uh I don't know that any of these people's like, um I guess I'd want to Who is charlotte the two the queen of midland? Yeah, we're marrying her So i'm fucking casca marrying charlotte and killing slam All right. There you go I wasn't gonna watch squid game until fringy said it was good. Thanks fringy All right. Yeah Tell rich tell stitch to give me a wrench. Um Also all watch soul station I don't know what that is and I can't help you with the wrench thing I think is you have to donate a certain amount to get a wrench on kind of a stitch I'm not sure how it works but If you beg for it, that's probably gonna make it so that they don't give it to you I don't know. That's my guess Um, also more to watch eternals and spider-man and rags watch venom so you can explain to each other What happens in other movies beyond these? That could be the new gimmick for if we just deliberately have people not watching it just so they can be bewildered They've worked well for I mean it It worked well for asking questions and keeping an episode going. I think so. Uh, it's a neat little format Um, hey fringy. I remember you mentioning the idea of streaming other Metroid games on twitch still thinking of doing that Um, that could be cool. I guess the problem is that there is just difficulties with um With doing some of them Because like Metroid Prime I'd have to set up my Wii U and everything and get all that sorted Uh, and a lot of the other games just aren't available. You can do Super Metroid though Yeah, maybe or I guess um, yeah, there are other options too. We'll see I got other game. Resident Evil 4 that would probably be the you know next one Mubble if you like rhapsody you may like amorphous try the albums under the red cloud sky forger or queen of time Also thoughts on the new Rhapsody of fire the single that came out. I liked it. Um, I'm also The person friend made me aware of power wolf recently. I've been listening to them. They're fucking badass Morphous maybe I'll try them at some point um I'm replaying full out full right now and the password for the terminal was rags. How neat also high rags. Wow Hello Also, just a friendly reminder that fringy is a proboscis monkey and his goo is in fact his semen Oh my god lies. I'll be back lies Um frick samus What was I sorry But well, I guess I'll take fringy's word for it I was gonna say can we really trust the person that's the most bias in relation to fringy's goo? I don't know My come is gooey. Mm-hmm Uh frick samus should be great for a date, but she travels too much for a stable relationship Yeah, but you'd be traveling with you travel together Going all kinds of adventures together solve mysteries. Yeah, you would be traveling together And your ship would be your home essentially and you go from place to place So if you now if you don't have a wanderer's heart then Maybe that wouldn't work out so well for you if you want to you know Set down a route someplace then maybe zelda would be more your option. It's really tough I mean, they're both pretty good choices depends on what you want. I suppose or what you find the most Appealing Nobody choosing peach Your weird peach Uh Mary zelda she's a warrior princess and seems pretty mature kill peach She loses by process of elimination that seems to be the case for everybody. Yeah Uh bench appear has a review of squid game now for your information guys Oh If there's appear reviews anything it's like guys come on Gotta watch page bureau review Uh, what is the most bizarre dream any of you have had also? Thanks for recommending train to Busan long guy best zombie movie I've ever seen. Hey good stuff Bizarre dream Um, I kind of have mentioned this one you've had before but one of the most bizarre ones. I still remember was You have to you have to picture this was when I was super young But I just never forgot like such a fucking vivid and strange dream So picture completely just all blackness. It's all dark then picture like um You know like mosaic tiles, but colored all red That form a square bath But it's big enough that it's like two meters for each side of the square, okay You're standing on one side vaguely balancing in and among the void And on the other side is a really big sumo And he is trying to get around the sides to get to you and you're consistently trying to Avoid him by going the opposite direction, but you're also wobblings is quite thin Uh, I remember that dream to this day. I have no idea what it means I like I came up with it But I was very concerned about falling off the red tile and ending up in the void Um, but I was you know at the same time I'm concerned about the sumo. So What do you do rags like what do you recommend in that situation? Well, you want to avoid the void? What if the sumo gets you? Well, I mean, I mean life is a life is full of risks, you know Are you saying maybe the the dream's point was you don't know that he's trying to hit you he could be trying to help you I am not it. I'm not a dream interpreter. Honestly. I I hear some people do that sort of thing I don't know. I don't put much put much stock in the whole interpretation of dreams thing I don't know I'm so I was like, whoa It was probably some kind of dream related to like the subconscious of my future in terms of stealing the declaration of independence That's what I assume it was to do is Oh, that's a lofty goal I've seen it done by fucking nicolas cage. So I don't know that it's out of my reach, you know the man is He's impressive. He's an impressive thief of parchment's and scroll work Documentary Deeper retaker Um, yeah, you got any bizarre dreams you remember? um I mean I guess not like individual ones Uh, sometimes when I take uh, so sometimes I take melatonin to sleep a bit and it doesn't Help me sleep faster But I think it does help me sleep for just longer and a better sleep But one thing I do know about melatonin is that it has a tendency to give me very strange dreams They're very vivid And they're very they just feel more real and I accept them Just more easily I I will awaken from a dream And it will just be like I was totally invested into that dream um Generally, they'll they will I play a lot of video games and they're often video game related Uh in terms of settings and things that I'm doing and stuff of that nature um They could be I just sort of I guess none really stand out too much Just little bits and pieces that sort of stick around Like I'm wondering levels and I'm a lot of the times I'll be I'm often chased by things um I'm trying to get away from them zombies Something like that something I can't even remember what but um I wouldn't go as to as I would I won't go as far as to say they're nightmares Because I don't really get nightmares But um, I get those those creepy dreams that I'm not Not too broken up about when I wake up, you know, um Happy to be out of them. Just weird weird ones a lot of running away from things things just chasing me a lot. Um Don't know why and I can Struggle a lot a lot of struggling. There doesn't see it. It's weird. Um Yeah, yeah, it just doesn't they don't stick with me that well just little bits and pieces. Yeah, no same I uh The only ones I tend to remember the ones that I start talking about after they've happened if you know, I mean I might and then I can remember them But some dreams I'll have that are really crazy and vivid and then I'm just like I don't remember what the fuck happened that made me feel that way before but Yeah, now it goes into the memory hole Yeah, it's like um It's like a memory that like a half-formed memory that you've forgotten And you're just sort of trying to pick up the pieces, but they're very elusive Maybe that's the when you really for me when you retell them It's that you're copying a temporary memory into a permanent one sort of thing Something I don't know How it works up there One thing I do know about dreams that is quite consistent for me Is that when I fly in dreams, I have to flap my arms all right Bring you got any weird dreams tells about No All right, all right. I got weird dreams, but I ain't talking about them Because you don't want people to know your secrets um I don't know dreams are weird Okay, uh, have you played soma yet frongus? Um, no, I haven't but I will So it's the best time at you. You're too busy. I bet you're late. Yeah, meet you. You need me me me Look at that silence. Let's go if you're a little dread. You'll play soma exactly Hmm questions for me. Who do you think would win a fight between x parasite or the flood? um Probably the x parasite. They've got certain advantages. Um over the flood I'm not sure though. I have to think about that one And the last one for today says boo Oh, that's sorry. Yeah You should a trick or warning Yeah, cheese Um, but yeah, that's probably gonna we'll wrap up there. We got um You know, so it's five hours and a half, you know, it's just the shortest stream ever made but Uh, there's just a lot of things that I got to get done Rags has got to go back to the sleepy town. I'm sure everybody Perhaps yeah in chat has just got places to be because it's a when Wendy as they say it But uh, like I said, you've got uh an e-fap this saturday and an e-fap the next wednesday and an e-fap the saturday after that Which will be the halloween fap Which will have homework too But uh, we'll tell you about that on the next e-fap because that's easy homework compared to the squid game Which all of you every last one of you in chat. You got to go watch squid game. Okay You'll know what we're talking about on on this week. You don't want to get lost in our conversation Also this friday Resident evil afterlife Oh boy number four the second best movie in the franchise Just fucking flawless excellent Just uh, honkerino's believe me guys. You cannot wait to see the Wondrous film that is resident evil afterlife Um, I'm trying to give anything else to to mention. There's just lots of things happening The 28th, I think I'm streaming the stupid fucking game with mel that comes out this year um The the dark pictures house of ashes right then Oh, yeah I think I've been invited to friday tights with drinker So that's gonna be my thursday then friday then saturday is halloween fap and then sunday So, yeah sunday is halloween 31st That's when me rags and free will be playing aliens fire team or whatever it's called Wait, is that half? Oh I might have made a mistake. We'll have to talk about that Um, oh, yeah Yeah Um, but anyway, that's all stuff to come. Thank you for joining us and now I will read the last two Have you ever had sleep paralysis? No, I haven't no Uh, fringy e-fap con when? Wait, what e-fap con? like I don't understand. What does that mean? They're asking you when you're setting up the e-fap convention, I guess I assume he's not gonna sit up Uh, if a platypus fought a monkey on the river shore Why did the alligator leap from the tree when everyone knows the croc didn't leave from the river? And the answer seems obvious to me Rags, what do you think? He just said he had gone for a second. Oh So anyway, thank you all for watching We will see you next time. Good night. Goodbye. Goodbye