 Boss talk one-on-one. Yeah, we gon' talk. We gon' have fun. We'll be on fire. We'll be livly. It's a unique hustle. Big shit, big shit, big shit, big shit, huh. It's a unique hustle, nigga. Big shit, big shit, big shit, big shit, huh. Name another podcast like this. We gon' bring it to the table. Boss talk. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E.C.O., and I'm here with the lovely, amazing, official, Miss Jamaica. What's going on? Man, hey man, we just chillin' in the cut, man. Hey man, we got a guy here today, a special guest, man. A guy that don't need no introduction. You know, that's my way of saying things, man. I just jizzles in the building. What's going on, baby? What's happenin' with y'all, man? Appreciate y'all for havin' me. Man, say, man, New Orleans, man. I'm bruh. You just pulled up, man. That's how I'm rockin', hear me? Man, hey man, just give us a little backspill on just your whole how you came in the game, really, from a young age, man. I wanna hear how it was growing up in New Orleans, man. Man, Chapa City was a gun-smoked city, man. You had to be a gangster. You got off their porch, you either went into a cast-stick or you went into your own lane. You know what I'm sayin'? One of the two. There was no in-between. So basically, man, at eight years old, I was homeless, runaway. You know, I was in the foster care system and stuff. So your parents didn't come lookin' for you? My mom, she was in prison, you know, for the death of my little brother. Yeah. So your mom killed your brother? How old was your brother when he died? He was like three months. Yeah, he was a twin. It was like, she didn't do it though, you know what I'm sayin'? She went in for starvation and the neglect of an infant child. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. She wasn't taking care of him the way she should have. Well, she couldn't take care of him. This what it is, right? My mom's sister was taking care of us, supposedly. But she was young herself, so all she wanted to do was be on the phone, talk to the boys, you know how they rockin' that thing. So where was your mom at this time? She was on tour with Prince, you know what I'm sayin'? She was with their power generation crew at that time. So she was in music? Yeah. So you're saying that your, really it was your auntie that was really the one that was responsible? Yeah, she was responsible. Yeah, yeah. So where was your dad at this time? What did it? Huh? What is that? So he was nowhere in the picture at all. I mean, I was aware I had a sperm donor, but that was about it. Never met him? Nah, I mean, since I've been grown, yeah, I met him, you know, but nah. He wasn't there for y'all? Wow. Man, I got story behind stories, you know, that's how I got so many books I wrote while I was in prison. And people were like, you got a wild imagination, nah. It's your life. Nah, it's my life. So let's talk about mom, though. Mom, so how long was she locked up? She did like eight and a half years. Then she had to fight for the system, fight the system for like four, five years to get all her children back. How many kids were there? Six. Six, wow. Okay. And they split them all up. They split us all up, yeah. I was about to say that. They put us in tools, yeah. But you ran away? Yeah, I ran away because, you know, foster care, man, them people don't care nothing about them children. You're the oldest one? Yeah, I'm the oldest. That's why the rest of them didn't run away. Nah, they didn't run away. But I hated it because they went through some stuff that I refuse to go through. You know, being raped, molested, all kind of wild stuff. How many boys and how many girls? It was five boys and one girl at the time, you know. But now it's like more, you know. Oh. Yeah. Five boys and one girl. You traveling. You was the oldest. And you had the day. What did you leave? You just was hanging out in Calioprojects. I was in the Magnolia. You were in the Magnolia? Yeah. Up under that boy. I was like one of the major dogs, you know what I mean? Like, you know, I'd rather be out there than be in there, you know. The Magnolia Projects. That was that with the Master P? Or was it? No, I ain't. P come from the Calioproject. Burrman and I come out of the Magnolia. From the Calioproject? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So the Magnolia was that BG? BG from the 13th year. You know, he know all of them from. That's what I'm asking. So he from the 13th. Yeah. He been gone by 13 years. Yeah. I really don't know. This is the last show. Oh, it is? Yeah. Yeah. We seen him up there. He was sweet. He's sweet, isn't he? He was sweet to me. Well, he was cutting up a little bit. He was drunk. He liked it, yeah. You know what I'm saying? He don't like it. He vicious, you know. He was nice to me. Yeah. That's my dog. That's my brown. Being from such a... So you write him? I haven't. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, I passed him through the system, you know. Yeah. He kept getting shipped around. You know how it is. When you got too much fame and popularity and stuff, they stay on you. You get caught with a phone. Get caught with some dope or whatever. This and that. And they move you around because you got too much, you know, like Larry Hool and all of them. They got to lock you away from people because you got too much influence. Right. Yeah. But being from Louisiana, you went to Louisiana prisons. Yeah. I was in... I'm in the fed. So they ship you around. Okay. So I started out in Louisiana. So I had to put in some work, Jeremy. You know, I got shipped to Florida. Then moved around, hit the smooth, Jeremy. Like, smooth program. I did everything but ADX. You know what I'm saying? Thank God, Jeremy. Isn't ADX bad? I don't know. He looking at me like... Yeah. Yeah. That's 23 and one. You hear me? Like that's one day of recreation a day. That's the only light you see. One day of recreation a day. Yeah. One day of recreation a day. 23 hours in your cell. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So if you got 25 years, imagine how much free time you got. Because I always heard that, you know, state prison compared to... like, fed is like a walk in the park compared to state prison. It used to be that way, but it ain't that way no more. I'd rather go to the state now than go to the feds. The feds is wild. You got a knife up, a wife up just to live. Mmm. Yeah. Wow. So when you think about the whole situation with how... First of all, you didn't tell us, how did you end up going to prison? Well... Man, I got a string of my rap sheet as long. I ain't gonna say... Going to prison the first time? So, you know... Yeah, you know, it started... Now, I ain't gonna lie, my first time I went, I was innocent. You hear me? Like... Because I went in for some gun charges, but I took charges for my homies. Same thing B.G. did. You know what I'm saying? B.G. took them charges. The more he is, you know what I'm saying? But like a real nigga was just like, I ain't gonna let my partner never go down like that. I could take that, so he took that. You know what I'm saying? And me, I did the same dumb-ass shit. Scoot my language. Mmm-hmm. Yeah, you had taken the charges. So after that and you came out from that, what happened the next time? I mean... I'm in the streets now. You know what I'm saying? I'm on that radar. So every time, you know, you gotta have that iron in the streets to live. Mmm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? So, I basically told the police, every time y'all pull me out, but y'all might work at the SWAT team. You did? Because I'm gonna be loaded. You hear me? Like a bum in the alley. And how old were you at this time? How old were you? 16, going on 17. So you were... At a young age, you was... Mmm-hmm. Mmm-hmm. Yeah, I had to. I mean, imagine what I seen at eight years old. Pregnant women in certain needles inside of their cat. You know what I'm saying? Just to find that nerve so they can get high and stuff. Need nine months pregnant. Pregnant. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Drugs. Just people getting whacked and kicked in front of you just... You don't blink no more. You're numb to it. You see it's no more, you numb to it. Yeah. So you know what I'm saying? I had seen so much so I knew what I had to do. Did you know how to love at that point in your life? I thought I did. But I didn't know what love was. Because everything that I took in was the homies from around the way. Because they took me in, but on the cool, they was using me. Mmm-hmm. What should I say? Misusing me. Yeah, misusing you. How many times were you in prison? I went to the state three times. I've been to the feds once. And that was the last time when you went to the feds? I just got out. How many years? I've been out for a year. How many years? I just did ten. Ten. Man. And so being locked up like that and coming home after all those years, what was the most changing thing that you experienced when you came home? Cell phones, electronics. Everybody always said that. You know what I'm saying? Like all this weird stuff, people talking to themselves, walking around. I'm like, whoa, what the, you know, like this zombie villain, what's going on? Then the corona at the same time. Like I didn't deal with none of that when I was in prison. So. Because you were in prison when corona was going on. Right. How did that affect you there? Because then I've heard different cells, different prisons was going through lockdown because of corona. No, not until recently. Because at first we knew nothing about it. They tried to shield us from that. Oh. Yeah. When people started getting sick and getting dying. Yeah. You know, people started getting sick and all that stuff. And they tried to say, oh, it's just pneumonia. Oh, it's just he died from this. He died from that. You know what I'm saying? Was it a lot of people dying? Mm hmm. Yeah. Mm hmm. They don't care. They don't care. They don't make money off you for ways without you even blinking. They don't care. Wow. So when you think about, you know, the times when you was locked up, what was I know you was in plenty of riots. What what what riots? What riots sticks out the most to you? Mm hmm. We were just talking about this the other day, the wildest riot ever been was behind a homosexual man behind a homosexual. Now this homosexual come in, right? And he got some money. So usually somebody going to take him up under his wing. But in a federal system, you got what's called cars. Games are considered cars. So you're going to come in and you're going to ride with your city or you're going to ride with the game. And if you don't ride with that, you're riding with religion. You know what I'm saying? Mm hmm. So either way it go, you got a knife up to keep him right from nothing, stay ready to keep him getting ready. Mm hmm. You know what I'm saying? Because you basically responsible for everybody else's BS. Mm hmm. You are. Because if I'm on New York time. And say to my homies go on B block and rob a dude from Memphis and go in their cell and take something. Well, that's on all of us. That's on all of us. So when the ride kickoff, they're going after everybody from my city. Mm hmm. You know what I'm saying? That's terrible. And if you don't know about it, that's the worst thing ever. We walk down a block and 20 people just jump on you just start stabbing you instead. Mm hmm. And you don't even know why. You ain't trying to fight back because you still on this. What did I do? Mm hmm. You know what I'm saying? What you mean by you ain't trying to fight back? Jump you? You going to start fighting back? I mean you will, but let's just be honest. The initial content is, whoa, what you tripping out? What? You know what I'm saying? Mm hmm. Yeah. So you know. Wow. So you, so were you stabbed in there? Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Yeah. I had my feel for it. Give me your incident where you were stabbed. You know, I'll go in on it. In this same, this same riot that I'm talking about. You know, I was on Crip Time. I didn't get on Texas Time. I got on Crip Time. What is Crip Time? I was gang related. You know what I'm saying? I just want to make sure. I figured that's what it was. Yeah. So I rolled with that. Mm hmm. So one of my homies, they didn't get mad at all they want to. One lay down, two good help. He a punk. He a punk. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. You let the dudes survey and started off a money thing. You got them under protection and all those kind of stuff. But you let them suck you up and do all this. You're a punk, though. For sure. You know what I'm saying? So a Hispanic dude from Latin Kings ended up coming down the way six months later, shipped from another unit. Come to find out the punk came from that prison yard where this dude was at. And that was his thing. Mm hmm. So when he come over here, he want to just let brawl back. Mm hmm. Because you know what she worked. So some way it got twisted. They got into a heated debate about it. My homie wasn't coming off the pump. You know what I'm saying? So that led to them getting into a scrap. He stabbed him. He stabbed him a couple of times. They come out with the guns and stuff. They start shooting and stuff. I mean, everybody lay it down. They locked us down. The very moment that we came off a lockdown, everybody knew what it was. Knife up. It's going down. And this creates more chaos than a little bit. Because even though you may not be a Crip, he now he on something else. This and that. Everything black at attack. They ain't trying to hear it. When you dealing with different races and stuff like that. Ain't no. No. Let him make it. He cool. Ain't nobody trying to hear that. I don't care how many times you're sitting spread together. How many times y'all got money together. So dope together. When y'all got to die. So when the doors open, everybody went at it. Blood was everywhere. Stabbing, stabbing, beatings. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. No, I did it. But you would think that them security guards know that once you open them doors, that's what that was going to happen. They know. They know. They don't stand by waiting. They don't run the prisons. We do. They just work there. We got to live there. So if you want to make it home off your 8 to 12 hour shift, mind your business. Got you. Wow. Man, that's that's crazy, but it's 100. So another thing like to be down there and not have the financial support, you would have to either a, you know, make a stow or figure out a way to hustle, say a tattoo ink figure out. I know I'm a hustler figure out ways to gamble, make some dice or, you know, get some dice in kind of ways. What was the thing? Did you have a support in the free world or did you have to go for yours and just try to figure out ways to make ends meet? I had support, you know, which is good. I didn't want to support anymore because I was married at the time. So my wife, my ex-wife, she held me down. Okay. But the way she held me down when I found out I wasn't with it. Okay. So we cut ties. You know what I'm saying? But so you didn't have to, you didn't have to do all the crazy stuff to make sure you had money in there. Or you probably just, you probably was out there making some things happen. Yeah. Because you never want to make moves when you're in there. I made moves because I got kids and you still got to live. You know, I won't see them go to college. I still want to do something. So you flipping what you get. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I take my money and stuff. I tell my partner, you go ahead and open this door and just give me back this. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm slinging K2, trying to get it through the mail. You know what I'm saying? Hey, I took my daughter to college. No, I get it. You know what I'm saying? I get it. From there, just off of pieces of sprayed on paper. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I just got to do what they got to do. And if that's cut somebody, rob somebody, you know, gamble, lie on the phone. Many of us get on the phone and we are live. You know what I'm saying? All these dudes going to do something to me. If you don't see me, somebody do this, this and that. Well, let me ask you this. Did you run? You say you ran into a BG a little bit and passing in there. But did you ever run into relatives, people that you was, you know? Yeah. Like uncles or, you know, anybody close can. You see what I'm saying? I did. But what happens is we can speak. But if we are on two different sides of the track, you know, it ain't nothing I could do for you. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. The best thing I could do for you if something jumped off, I could warn you ahead of time and tell you stay out of the way. Yeah. Because this ain't for you. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? If you want to help your homeboys, this and that, my hands is tied. Yeah. And you know, there was like, like killings and stuff in there. What was the first incident in there where you seen or you knew somebody got killed? Oh, I watched the nigga get killed behind a piece of chicken. Okay. What was that about? Fried chicken. Explain that to me. Fried chicken? A piece of fried chicken. Every Friday they serve in the same meal. You know the menu, the prison menu. Every where you go is going to be the same. So everybody know how fried are you getting? Fried chicken. Potatoes and mashed potatoes and gravy. A piece of cake or pie or either some fruit cocktail. You know what I'm saying? That's the day everybody want to trade. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Commissary. Man, let me get that chicken. Man, let me get that. Yeah. Ooh, did this and that. So a guy on my wing asked another guy because you know he don't eat his chicken and he always sell it. He said, say, man, let me get that chicken today. So he's like, nah, my little partner just got off the bus. He ain't got nothing. So I'm going to go ahead and get on my trade. He said, man, quit acting like a little bro. Man, let me get that. You know what I'm saying? I got five suits in the Jackman for you. Right? What's up? What's up? So he just bypassed it. Right now he's at work passing out toilet paper. So as he doing that, do following him upstairs on the run, trying to talk him out of the chicken. Dude told him, just go ahead, man. I'm good. I ain't going to give it to you. So he was just like, man, push that nigga. Ooh, did this and that. The man caught that. So he said, I'm not going to be there. I'm not going to push that nothing. Go home and watch your business. And he was an older gentleman. You know what I'm saying? So the dude said, he said, man, I got something for you. So he already knew what that meant. He went and got his knife. He came back, but the old man was skilled. The old man ended up taking the knife from him and gutting him. And threw him over the rail. All behind some chicken. All behind a piece of chicken. Damn. Lost his life. That's over a piece of chicken. And so serious. Everything is really, you can't play around when you in these conditions because everybody else is watching the situation and you got to sleep and watch the nigga because you don't know if he's going to come back and kill you. Right. So every day you like, you know, I got to eliminate this problem for this problem, eliminate me. Exactly. Real talk, right? Yeah. So, you know. And see if you in a car or a gang or you're riding with religion, it doesn't even matter. If you get into an incident because you represent us, you got to handle that. And if you don't handle that, we're going to handle you. Yeah, because I always thought that, you know, when you pick religion, everybody just leave you alone no matter what race you are, you know, like a bypass. No. No. Tell you something. The Muslims don't play. They don't play. They're going to make a lot. They're going to go to the mosque. They're going to do everything they're supposed to do. They're going to get their education. But if you disrespect one of them, they're going to tell you off the bone. Tallinn service and all that. Yeah. And it don't matter where you're standing at, you're going to get your issue. That's real. That's real talk, man. Just was on it today, man. So just give us a little bit more insight on just what did you, did you write any music when you were locked up? I wrote a ton of music that I'm still sitting on. I haven't even got to release none of it yet. You know, a lot of it just been busy, man, just busy. I've written two novels while I was in there. I actually got put out that you can go online and buy nine. What's the name of them? Cup Boy The Streets Made Me Volume One. It's a six book series, you know. Just talking about your life? Talking about my life. It's talking about no limit, bunch of different things, you know, things that happened when Soda Slim got killed. You know what I'm saying? You just got to get, you just got to get. You got to give, okay, because the way how people are, right? You got to give them something juicy. To say, man, I got to go get that book because he just said that and I need to go see what he's talking about. You got to give us something juicy to make us want to go get that book. So come on, give us a little sum. Give it up. I kind of like doing cliffhangers and stuff. I don't like giving up no info. You can still leave them on a cliffhanger, but you know, give them something, dude. That's like, I need to know the rest of that. Yeah, let's put it like this. Everybody got the thoughts of hearsay of what happened to Soda Slim November 25th when it happened. You know what I'm saying? But a lot of the information is not accurate. Were you there? Yeah, I was there. Yeah, I was there. We're on the corner. Yeah, so I basically told that and I had to rewrite the book because my lawyer told me if I want to have a leave prison. Yeah, because I was basically snitching and I didn't even know it, but I was just telling what I was seeing. Yeah, your story. Telling what was going on with me. And so the tell was going on me and tells what goes on around me. Everybody else. You know what I'm saying? But I never realized that I was putting everybody else business out there. So I was solving crimes and all kinds of stuff. I was like, man, let me get that back, my bad. You know what I'm saying? So some things are accurate and some things are not. I'm not even going to tell you what's what. You know what I'm saying? I want to ask you a question about just being from Louisiana and just the sound of the music that comes, the bounce sound that comes from down there. Who would you say is the number one producer ever to come out of New Orleans? Manny Fresh. Manny Fresh. Manny Fresh. He the best to do it. The best to do it. Still the best to ever do it. So you think he harder than Beast by the pound. I mean, KLC is a dog, man. Come on, man. I had to say that. You can't get away with it. That's my dog, man. And Manny Fresh would tell you that. Yeah. So, but is it different? Is it because Manny Fresh is, is he younger a little bit? No. No, no, no. They are the same age. They are the same age. You know KLC told a story on here. He said that he knew Birdman. He knew Baby before Baby knew Manny Fresh. He knew both of them. He knew Manny Fresh and he knew Birdman before they even met each other. Yeah. He told me that. That's true. And he told me something else. And he also remember he told me about, he say he gave something on here that was so exclusive. He said that Birdman, he say he was in his house producing the beat to body body. And he say he had Birdman and he had Slim over there. And he had Soldiers Slim because he used to be with him. And he had Master Penem and Silk all freestyle in the body body right before it came out and got out. Isn't he got his little trail that goes to his place? His Grand Theft Auto, that's all he said. But he say that happened at his place because he was producing that music. Yeah. And I just look at the way, man, y'all are special from down there. The way that the music and stuff penetrates everybody, you know, throughout the world. I mean, that whole thing changed the whole dynamic of hip hop if you really want to be real about it. It's because we put our pain in our music and you will never see it. You know what I'm saying? Because we'll dance to pain, we'll smile to pain before we sit up and shed a tear. Wow. What about, wasn't my boy Big Mike from down there? Big Mike, we rap a lot. Yeah, he was from down there. Yeah, y'all got some back. That's way back. I didn't rest back, nigga. I reached back over, you know, placing. So, I mean, who would you work with from down there if you had an opportunity? Man. From down there, if you had to pick one person that you could work with down there and y'all could put out a project from New Orleans, it's got to be New Orleans. Who would it be? Producer-wise? Hell, no. I'm talking about the whole project. You can pick a producer and an artist that you would like to work with to create a project from New Orleans. It'll be KLC and BG. That whole bang, that whole slap right there. That's my boy, man. You know, me and K. We talk a lot. That's my boy, for real, for real. Me and him, we wrote for a minute in there about that music, man. He rocked with me about PMC. You know, I'm a big PMC fan. So, we just talked about them working together on different projects, man. So, what make BG stick out so much for you? Because I watched him. I watched him. Don't talk to me. What an old man. What sticks out for me is the realism because he's not a studio gangster. He actually lived everything he spoke. Yeah. Everything he spoke, he lived that. I watched it for myself. You know what I'm saying? Like, you got some artists. There's only like, hmm, we're back then. I don't know about right now. But back then, there was only like four people that can go project to project because we beat that hard. We beat by awards. There was no Crip Blood and all that. It was none of that. You know what I'm saying? You banged by an award. Because Louisiana was its own parish. Yeah. By itself. You know what I'm saying? So, you like to sit and you got pink rag on, red one on his arm, green one on his head. You know what I'm saying? But you better mess with him. Because he might be from the 7th Ward, 9th Ward, 8th Ward, Lafitte, whatever. You know what I'm saying? And we beat hard. Wow, man. You know what I'm saying? From the womb to the tomb, we beat hard. Mm-hmm. I definitely want to talk about that TNT, man. Let's talk about that new project that's getting ready to drop, man. When is it dropping? Friday. This Friday. It comes out this Friday. And what can we expect? Man, anybody out there that's roaming around Texas right now that missed that home flavor, you damn sure going to get it on this one here. That's what I'm talking about. What inspired it? Actually, it was a joke between me and somebody else. You know what I'm saying? Because we was talking about the federal system. Mm-hmm. Because when I went in there, I was telling them, they asked me, they was like, are you hot? You know what I'm saying? If you hot, you can't be here. I'm like, nah. I don't understand what you're talking about. Right. Like, I know I'm hot. You know what I'm saying? I'm lyrically in tune, client, this and that. They talking something else. They talking about writing. They talking about if your paperwork right. You know what I'm saying? So, I almost got killed my first day there because I didn't know the lingo. Right. Because when they asked me was I hot, I said, yeah. Now I'm looking at me and it's clutching. You know what I'm saying? They was like, who you told on? I said, whoa, hold on, partner. Ain't told on, nobody did. Hold on, hold on. What y'all talking about? Hold on, hold on. Y'all got to give me some room right now. I'm looking. I'm new. I'm beating out because I see it. You know what I'm saying? So, I'm like, you know, for this rap game. Yeah, I'm hot, but I ain't tell on nobody. There's just like, well, you got 30 days to get that paperwork in. If that paperwork say anything less than what you just said, you ain't limping nobody up. So they check your paperwork. Yeah. That's a lot. They call it paperwork party. Paperwork party. Yeah. Ain't nobody been in say too much to you until your paperwork is shown. You ain't get no care package. You're not going to shower shoes. No soap. No nothing. You ain't get nothing. So if the people ain't take care of you before you got there and you had no money. So how do you get a paperwork? You got to write the, you got to write the, uh, the war and the courthouse and they'll send it to you. Oh, okay. So that tells everything that happened in court. Everything who on your case, what your case is. And you better not be a child molester. You better not have no, uh, five K one, you know what I'm saying, which is telling on somebody, you know, you get into that, you automatically out. So is there a person in the prison that is like above everybody's that checks the paperwork or is just everybody check, see it? No. No. It's not person. You got the speaker. Then you got the person that checked the paperwork. You know what I'm saying? And sometimes they get passed down the line. After, after like four years of me being there, it got passed down to me and they like me having the paperwork. Why? Because I'm digging deeper. I'm digging deeper because some things are not told in the paperwork. Then how you find it out? If you're a street nigga, you can call home and shit and you can get that info. What the streets saying? Cause the streets going to say way more than what they saying in court. Let me ask you this. I don't want to move too fast, but how did you find time to write nine movies and out of those nine movies that you wrote, how many of them actually have been produced and put out? Neither of them has been produced and put out yet for the simple fact that it takes time and money, you know what I'm saying? And right now I don't have it. I'm looking for it. Neither one. You know, so I'm trying to check, I'm trying to take the rap music and take this money and put dumping into that. You know what I'm saying? I got it. But you already just haven't filmed it yet. Yeah. But then if couldn't you present your writing to different publishers and be like, hey, can you help me do this? You used to can do that. The game is differently now. You know what I'm saying? And what I look like giving you 85% of what I, what I'm worth and only taking 15 or 12. Cause if they put in any work, that's what's going to happen. You have to put in all the work and just bring the finished product and be like, I need to put this out. So that's why you got so many independent producers and labels now. You know what I'm saying? Because people want their money. They want to see their growth. You know what I'm saying? Fuck this shine. Like, come on, man. I get that on my own. So out of all nine, which one of them is your favorite and what is it about? If y'all are aware of who Stan Lee is, you know who Stan Lee is? Stan Lee was the one, the white guy who wrote all the Marvel movies. You know who he is? Yeah. And he died not too long ago. I know exactly who that is. Well, I fell in love with that style of writing. I got, I started writing all the gang, the gang, gang, kill, killer hood stuff and this, this and that. And then after a while I got bored with it. I'm like, Because it's your life. Yeah. I'm bored with that. So I wanted to try something else. So then I started writing children's books. And I went from children's books and like, I wonder if I can write a movie strip. So I went to the library, started, you know, studying books. You know what I'm saying? I started authoring books, everything on it. And started now learning how to write screenplays on my own. I taught myself. So after that, you know, my favorite movies was always like. Why didn't you go to school for it? Because I know when you're in prison they're saying to school for whatever you want. And I'm schooling over that. Oh, yeah. Because people, people go to prison and they come out being this and that. Let me, let me explain that to you. And me, me and her had this conversation not long ago. They'll give you all kinds of classes. They'll just find somebody who know it in prison or inmate and say, we'll pay you 33 cents a day or whatever. Isn't that teach, teach this class. Now you learning it and they'll give you the certificate. But when you come out here and actually come out here and try to present it to a company and get hired. They'll honor that. Wow. Amen. So how can people get a hold to you if they're trying to link up with you? Uh, I G ice jizzle. You know, I C E G I Z Z L E, you know, at Instagram. And I just recently uploaded a tick tock still don't understand it yet. Um, I got a Facebook footage for fam only. Um, pretty much that's it. All you can highlight. Gen music group, which is George Lopez. Yeah. Shout out George, man. He the one made this happen too. Let me ask you a question. Top three artists of all time did a lot. Any genre? Number one. Any genre? Mm hmm. Okay. Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson. Number one. Number two. Um, soldier slump. Hey. Number three. And number three would be, uh, man, it's hard, man. It's always hard. It's always hard. It's always harder than number three. I would say, um, damn, I can't even think of his name. New addition. New addition. Check it, man. Hey, man, thank you so much for coming on the show, man. The name ice jizzle. Where did that come from? Mm hmm. Farm and Lee. I was animal. When I left a certain situation, we ain't gonna say that name. When I left a certain situation, I got black ball. So when I got black ball, I can no longer use the name because I didn't take the time to do the paperwork. So it was up under the label's name. Mm hmm. So I had to change my name. So since I rocked a lot of jury, they just like, we can stalk all you icy black or, you know what I'm saying? Ice GZ. It was a joke. And it stuck. You know what I'm saying? And jizzle was always my favorite artist. So it became Ice GZ. But when I came home from this bid, I had to change it to jizzle because somebody's out there using my name. Check it, man. Thank you so much for coming on the show, brother. We love you. You officially boss talk 101 approved, man. My show, man. It's a whole different ball game now. Yes, sir. I don't know where else you been, but you here now. Yes, sir. And it goes down over at boss talk 101, man. Check it, man. Hey, man. It's been another great segment of boss talk 101. And we out.