 Hey there friends, thanks for checking in today We're going to do a comparison with the new torus gx4 versus the torus g3c Both of these are Palmer frame strike of fire 9 millimeter handguns that are subcompact in size many people want to know the differences So we're going to tackle that today. Let's start with the case the g3c comes in a cardboard case and They offer which is a real nice touch three twelve round magazines That's one more than the g2c offered so three magazines. I consider that a bonus the gx4 comes at the time of this recording with Two eleven round magazines both have flat base plates. Both are identical. Now if you go on to their store They offer a Extended base plate for five bucks for three finger contact and they offer a 13 round magazine Upon the launch they offered Two eleven round magazines. We'll see if that changes the gx4 comes in a hard case A hard padded case and for the first time they're offering an additional backstrap on a torus semi-auto handgun Which is a nice touch for those with larger hands. This one's larger than the one installed the msrp on the g3c is 308 the msrp on the gx4 is 392 this G3c has evolved from many different generations. Okay, it was just improved upon with each generation This is a new design this Included much more engineering to start fresh and create a very small and lightweight Subcompact handgun that accounts in my eyes for the increased msrp and even at 392 I think it is priced well and within the bargain limits The grip on the torus g3c has stippled pads throughout it does have pretty aggressive Texturing the back strap is evenly textured with the front strap and the larger mag with the picky extension Offers three-finger contact. It has a nice grip. I certainly have no complaints with it But I really like the gx4. This is more of a sandpaper ish not as aggressive Same type of texturing on the back strap. It has more more stippling throughout but when you feel it It is really nice now I don't think this will irritate the skin at all, but this does offer two-finger contact Now I mentioned that they do have the additional base plate for for five bucks or even the 13 round magazines Which would offer three-finger contact, but as it sits now It's a two-finger contact handgun. The g3c has a thumb safety All right, a lot of people prefer a thumb safety the gx4 does not have that and One of the questions was do they have a model that offers a thumb safety and at the time of this recording? They do not we'll see what happens in the future, but right now they only offer this handgun with a 10 round magazine and an 11 round magazine It also has a recess there to rip out the mag if you need to manually the G3c has that too little more pronounced with the gx4 But that is an upgrade from the g2c that it does have that area to rip it out Not not a major deal, but that can happen and you may need to manually Remove that magazine of dirt or grime gets in there and both of these pistols offer that both of these pistols share the same sight picture black serrated rear sights and a Pendant front dot the rear sights are drift adjustable and they are interchangeable with Glock 43 43 x and Glock 48 night sights if that is your choice there are options available They also have a sight hole indicator located in the same place you look down and see if brass is loaded and That's a change with this the g2c had a loaded chamber indicator bar they moved it to just a sight hole indicator and The gx4 shares that same feature there is no question that the torus g3c is a larger gun than the torus gx4 If we look at the slide length you'll see that maybe a half inch difference with the slide here We have a 3.2 inch barrel with the g3c and a 3 inch barrel with the gx4 If we look at the grip we could see that the gx4 looks a little fit or maybe not But it's pretty close the grip length is longer with The g3c, but that may change if you throw the 13 round mag in the gx4 But you know they are what they are 11 rounds and 12 rounds the G3c has an accessory rail So if you are into lights lasers or anything on the dust cover you can have that with the g3c Not so much with the gx4 doesn't have a rail on there But what it does have are front serrations, which is a nice touch for the press checks The g3c also has front serrations that is an upgrade with this over the g2c This has front serrations for the press checks as well Here we have an unloaded torus g3c and it's weighing in at 21 and 7 8 ounces We'll take the gx4 unloaded and that's weighing in at 18 and 3 quarters ounces So we can see that there is a weight difference. This has more material here. We have a loaded 12 round magazine Weighing in at 26 and 3 quarters ounces Here we have a loaded gx4 with 11 rounds 23 and a quarter let's make it even with 12 rounds 23 and 5 8 so approximately Three and a half ounces lighter with the torus gx4 for ccw purposes Three and a half ounces may not mean a lot to some people But to other people it really does and if you are weight sensitive the gx4 would be a better choice for your ccw Torus designed the gx4 to be snag-free and if you look at the slide and the frame and how they made It's very smooth even a slide stop is rather flush to the frame And it's a good-looking gun it has very nice lines to it The g3c has the thumb safety a little wider slide stop It does have the takedown leverage here there are really in the way But for those who pocket carry the gx4 would be a better choice just because there's really nothing there to get The material in your pocket hung up on and when retrieving the gun. I Like the way this gun looks it does have a nice feel to it pocket carry. I wouldn't do it with the g3c It's just it's just a little heavier a little little more Weight behind it not that's just my choice I would holster both of these but I know a lot of people pocket carried I think the gx4 would be a finer choice The trigger on the g3c is single action and it does have a trigger bar safety But you pull till you hit that wall and a very light 4-pound single action trigger pull and then the reset is rather short right there if the round does not fire It offers a double action restrike capability And that's a pretty nice feature and a lot of people asked does the gx4 offer that well Let's see here. We have a flat face trigger It also has a serrated trigger bar safety. I am measuring a Single action pull at five and a quarter pounds less travel far less trigger travel here But it does not offer Restrike capability so that those are the differences. I like the flat face trigger that they have here I think they did a nice job with it. They are completely different a rounded trigger a flat trigger restrike capability No restrike capability four pound single action five and a quarter pound single action But in my opinion this one just feels a little bit nicer So I'm giving the nod to the gx4 both of these guns have been proven reliable. They both passed the Limpress test Let's take a look at that and this time we'll start with the gx4 The slide finish on the gx4 is a gas nitride coating It's matte black also matte black a tether for finish on the g3c. The barrel is stainless on the g3c over here, they have what's called a DLC coating you can see that it is black makes it a little different the look is a little different But all in all it's just a preference thing For CCW purposes, I really like the size and weight of the torus gx4 The slide width is approximately an inch. Okay, that's what the site says We're looking at 1.2 inches over here So if you look at that you can you can see it right there that the gx4 is a little bit smaller It accounts for the lighter weight. I like the 11 round capacity I like the way the grip feels the trigger is really nice And I think they came out with a very nice handgun for a fair price I know that a lot of people and I mean a lot of people carry the g3c the g2c and they do so with confidence I hear it every day on this channel and I I can't blame them for that. I think this is a great gun, too But for CCW purposes, I'm taking this I just like the option of pocket carrying although I doubt I would do that I like that 13 round mag that's offered definitely looking into that But I have to say I shoot the g3c a little bit better. It's a more common platform You know, I I've had this 709. I've had the PT 111 I have the g2c and now the g3c and the g3. I have those guns So for me, this is a a common Platform that I'm used to I actually shoot it a little bit better That's not to say that I won't shoot this better in the future. I don't have a problem with this It took a little bit of a learning curve for me. This not so much Do I think this is a better gun or this is a better gun? I don't know, you know, they're they're both different But they share a lot of commonality. So it's it's the user's choice for CCW though I'm going with the gx4 for Maybe range fun or whatever. I shoot this a little better at this point. So we'll see what happens I want to know what you think do you think that this is worth the additional dough and Do you think this is something that you would carry or are you sticking with the Taurus g3c or the g2c? You just have confidence. You may like the thumb safety Or the rail or do you go with the the smaller and lighter pistol with that flat face trigger and the 11 or the 13 round magazine, you know, it's a tough choice But I'm just happy to have them both. Yeah, if you like videos like this, please subscribe and share I always appreciate the thumbs up button. Thanks for watching and you guys be safe