 is verse 11, 1 Peter 4 and verse 11 says, if anyone speaks, let him speak as the oracles of God. If anyone ministers, let him do it as with the ability which God supplies, that in all things, God may be glorified through Jesus Christ to whom belong the glory and the dominion forever and ever. So this verse talks about human responsibility, us as ministers of God. Verse 10 says, as each one has received a gift, minister it to one another as good stewards of the manifold grace of God. So a steward is someone who is like an overseer, someone with the responsibility of making sure that things that are in his or her responsibility, they do well. The stewardship does many things, protects, causes things to grow, nurture and all those things. So here, Peter is saying that the gift that you received you steward it to one another, so that it's beneficial for each other, minister it to one another. And he says, if anyone speaks, let them speak as the oracles of God. As part of the ministering to one another is also speaking. And Peter is saying that you speak as the oracles of God, meaning you speak as what God would speak. You speak what, in other words, it's like you be the mouthpiece of God, like you be the spokesperson, you be the mouthpiece for God. So the message that you speak or message that you communicate, let it be from the heart of God. Okay, so it asks for us, it gives us the responsibility to not speak something devoid of, from that place of intimacy with God. The Lord Jesus says that he's the wine, we are the branches, so that what flows in the wine flows in the branch and we are the fruit bearing part of the wine, we bear fruit. And so our responsibility is to really receive from him and to steward that well. So we speak what we speak as the oracles of God. Now it's a huge responsibility, but also it's something which is natural for us, as a spokesperson for God, it's something that is natural. We hear, we receive, and we speak, we communicate. So it's a privilege and it's something that is, that should come very naturally, because the end result is this. It says that we do it with the ability which God gives us. So we can grow in this ability, even as we grow in this grace and knowledge of God, and we do it with the ability that God gives us, and he empowers us so that God may be glorified through Jesus Christ. So in all things that he gets the glory. So because he gives us the ability, he gives us the message, he enables us to communicate the message. We are in a way, like we are like delivery boys and girls, we go deliver it in the way we were supposed to deliver, and it blesses others, it ministers to others, even as we deliver it the way it was meant to be delivered. So let's just pray and ask God, God, I just want to steward the gift well, whatever gift you have given me, whatever gifts you have put in my life, I want to steward it well. I want to speak as the oracles of God. I want to minister with the ability that you have given. Let's pray. Father, we thank you Lord for these words, God. Thank you, this is your expectation and this is for each one of us, oh God, you've called us to this. What an awesome privilege, Lord, what an awesome privilege to have the words of the Almighty God from the mouth of the heart of finite man, Lord, to speak your words of life, Lord, to speak those words which really brought in a lot of change and creation in the universe, God, to be able to, Lord, speak and to be able to minister, God, these life-giving words, the words of the just spirit and life. Master, we thank you that you've called us to do this, you've chosen us to do this, to partner with you, oh God, and this whole task of redeeming the world to yourself, God, redeeming the people to yourself, the nations to yourself, God. And Father, God, we pray that we'll be faithful to that end, Lord, even as you prepare us, shape us, mold us, God, for this purpose, God, we thank you and yeah, maybe be faithful in it, maybe steward things well, even as you give us this ability, and then in all things, Lord, to you be the glory, Lord, as Osama says, not unto us, not unto us, oh God, but to you be the glory forever and ever. In Jesus' name we pray, amen, amen. Okay, so last class we, I mean we've been looking at sermon construction, right, so putting together the outline of the sermon, and like all of you have shared what is the topic, and you also shared what is the, you know, the title of the sermon as well, so we've been going through that, so that's good. Let me just check if there's been any more additions. After Aradhana, I think Lubega, you still haven't filled in, if Lubega's attending the class today, okay, please go ahead and fill it in, the title and the topic, and I think also someone else, yeah, I think Aradhana had filled in, yeah. Okay, so who else needs to fill in? Lia Lama, you need to fill in that, as Linden filled in, Linden, you need to fill in that, so these are going to be, you know, towards the sermon that you'll be actually preaching, it's not a long sermon, just 10 minutes, and so these are going to be assessed, right, for your final assessment, so I just want to request you to, you know, put in that effort and fill that in, okay, right. Okay, so last class we looked at, we finished with the illustration, right, why the importance of illustration, why should we use illustration, and the wisdom of using it, and how often should we use it, like all that we saw, and then we also moved into the aspect of application, right. So application is important because, you know, not everything can be, you know, in the sense, everything that is, let's say preached, not everything can be just put to practice in the sense that I, you know, in daily life, I may not be able to actually, like let's say you're talking about, just for an example, you're talking about in times and so on, so not everything can be, it is information, it is a revelation that I'm receiving, and of course it creates an expectation for me to, you know, wait and expect the second coming of the Lord, all that is fine, but there's nothing more, maybe it gives me a burden to share the Gospel all that, right, so there's nothing more that I can do in my daily life. You know, there are some things like that, whereas there could be some things like, you know, living a life of sanctification, transformation in our daily lives, and maybe increasing in the knowledge and the wisdom and the grace of God, all those things, there are certain things that we can put to practice in our daily lives, right, and so we need to apply this truth, okay, and there's certain, when we share certain keys of how this can make a change or how can we apply, this really empowers the hearer to go from hearing or listening to doing, okay, and the scripture is very clear, and James we see, don't be a hearer, forgetful hearer, but be a doer of the word, so we are actually empowering, like giving some tools for the hearer to actually start applying this truth in their lives, okay, so we saw a few things, okay, so let's look at, we looked at the principles, right, and we saw that the application should not be, you know, kind of, it should be definite, it should be specific, so that it's easy to put, the steps can be clear, so when should the application be made, okay, so that's the question, so when should I share about what needs to be done, it actually depends on the message, right, depends on how the, you know, how we frame the message, because sometimes the application is right at the very end of the message, okay, so there are maybe two, three things that needs to be done, but you need to hear through the whole message, because it's actually unfolding, it hasn't reached its completion till we conclude, or before we conclude, so we finish, and then there is the application, okay, then you say, okay, these are some things that need to be done, here are three things that are helpful, you know, this is how you, you know, you step in and do what you've heard, so things like that, whereas there could be a scenario where, let's say you have three points that you're sharing, and each of those truths that you've made in those three points, you know, there is an application, right, you shared point one, at the end of point one, okay, this is what you need to do, application, you shared point two, and at the end of point two, or the truth that you shared, there's an application, end of point three, again, application, so it could vary, so the thing is, you know, the time for the application is varies, depends on the way the message is structured, so that's something to be kept in mind, right, so the thing is that the application is not the conclusion of the message, we need to understand that, and we move on to what is the conclusion, okay, the conclusion is the very end of the sermon, right, so these are the closing remarks, these are how you want to end the sermon, okay, and probably you're calling for, you know, response from the congregation, okay, whatever be the response, so this is the real end, right, so as much as we plan the introduction and how we are going to start the sermon, the end of the sermon is also very important, you know, many times we, you know, kind of give a lot of importance to the introduction, because we want to make an impact, and then the body of the message, because you know, that's important, but we just leave it to, we leave it open, right, the closing, it's good to pray and plan that, you know, this is how I want to conclude, okay, this is how I'm going to conclude, and of course, you know, right through we are open to the suggestions of the Holy Spirit, or the promptings of the Holy Spirit, right, if he asks us to, you know, stay in one place and emphasize that, and we'll do that, of course, right, so the conclusion is important, we should know when to stop, and don't drag on the conclusion, and also don't add things at the conclusion, you know, I remember listening to a pastor, like he's no more, you know, one of the churches, Methodist churches, like he is, you know, he was a real character in the sense he looked like, you know, someone from the, out of the wild west, right, he had long sideburns, and he'll wear those cowboy boots, and wear those jeans, and he looked like a cowboy, you know, really, so he would, you know, he would share, and every time he shared, he wouldn't know where to end, or when to end, like, so he'll say, conclusion, and you know, he'll just go on, and I could just imagine it's like a pilot trying to land the plane, he comes to land, and then maybe the air traffic control says, no, no, not ready, you know, some other plane is there, and then he again takes off, then tries to land, and then takes off, so many, like, two, three times, two, three trips like that, and then finally, you know, very hesitatingly, he'll land the plane, so, you know, don't do that, right, let's not do that, so it can be simple, it can be clear, it can be impactful, like, if we trail off the conclusion, the impact of what we shared, sometimes gets diluted, you know, just saying, okay, you know, let's say it's a very powerful message, let's say a heart-touching message, like, you shared, and then you finished by saying, okay, that's it, I'm done, you know, it's such an anticlimax, right, so you shared something which was really powerful, which was really meaningful, really from the heart of God, you spoke as the oracles of God, and then you ended very abruptly, and you just said, okay, I'm done, see you all, bye, or, okay, so that's all I have to say, and then just kind of trail off, you know, so we can plan and make it impactful, close it with a closing statement, just like how you started with an opening statement, close it with a closing statement, don't add, I mean, make it short, make it clear, make it, add anything to it, you know, sometimes you, as you're ending, something comes to your mind, oh, wow, I forgot that, maybe I should add, don't, it's okay, you know, you forgot that, it's fine, people are not going to, again, you know, very few people are going to be in that place of receiving, you know, they've already sat through, maybe, whatever, 20 minutes, 30 minutes, 40 minutes, and they're in that place saying, I want to go now, right, and if you're going to be adding on stuff, it's not going to make sense, right, they might be polite, they might sit through, but it's not really going in, right, so don't add certain things, well, how we conclude, you know, it, again, you can pray through and say, okay, this is how I want to conclude, okay, what are some kinds of conclusions, like, you know, we can actually just finish, make a statement, finish, it depends on what kind of meetings we are doing, okay, maybe if it's in a church setting, and you're the pastor, you can conclude by leading into a time of ministry, like most Sundays, like in our churches, we do that, right, so we finish, and then we open it up and invite the work of God into the lives of people, so, say, in conclusion, you know, this is what it is, and then we say, okay, why don't you, based on what you heard, now this is who God is, and this is what we heard, and so why don't you open your hearts and invite the Holy Spirit to touch your heart, to touch your lives, to maybe there are certain needs that God needs to, only God can meet, and, you know, so we're getting, or transitioning, into a ministry time, right, so ministry time can be with a song, need not be with a song, it can be with a time of worship, need not be, so it can be, you know, so, but the ministry time is where we're allowing God's Spirit to minister to the hearts and lives of people, and it can be a powerful time, you know, sometimes you don't know what's really going to happen, you felt that, okay, maybe I should just finish and go, I know I've spoken, and then I don't really feel like going into this, right, and that's your flesh speaking, it's like, you know, just go home, but then you just open it up and you share, you know, say, okay, let's see what God wants to do, right, and then you open it up and you see the amazing things, you see a powerful more of God, you see people responding to the encounter with God, to the encounter with God, and some amazing things happen, amazing testimonies come out of it, right, so be open to that, plan, pray, and be led by the Spirit, right, what you just plan through, okay, this is how I'm going to finish, okay, maybe you want to give an altar call, you want to ask people to come forward, and be prayed for, or maybe you want to ask people to, you know, maybe it's a salvation message, and you want to give an opening, I mean an invitation for people to receive Christ, right, it can be that, and you can do that, or maybe it's a time of prophetic ministry, you sense that God is, you know, revealing certain things to your heart, and maybe certain health conditions, maybe certain emotional things that people are going through, maybe some struggles, challenges that people are going through, and God is putting that in your heart, and why is he putting it in your heart when you're ministering, because he wants that to be communicated, and why does he want that to be communicated, because he wants to intervene, and bring in change to those situations, right, maybe there's a struggle, maybe there's a challenge, he wants to step in, and maybe it's something to do with the family, something to do with someone's marriage, so be sensitive, you know, when you talk about these things, when you minister, you know, don't embarrass people, but really, you know, be sensitive in these things, right, so yeah, it's a solemn time, at the same time, it's not like, it need not be a very quiet time also, it can be a very powerful time, right, okay, so any questions on this, before we go to the next one, any questions, application, conclusion, maybe illustration, okay, if there are no questions, then that, sorry, did somebody ask any question, no, okay, that was my voice coming through, okay, okay, okay, let's move on to the next one then, next one is language, okay, so we are coming to, you know, slowly moving into the communication of it, right, the presentation of it, so we're talking about language, whatever language that you use, first of all, you know, just ensure that it's a language that the people know, okay, if people are not comfortable, many times what people do is, and this is something that we notice that, okay, you ask them, okay, do you know this language, or maybe you ask questions like, you know, is there anybody who does not understand this, you know, maybe they have a working knowledge of the language that you're speaking, you know, and then they understand a little bit of, but when you get into the message, you realize that people are lost, they're not really tracking, like they're not following, so it's best to understand, find out, you know, beforehand, you know, will people understand the language, and do you need a try, you know, somebody to interpret on their behalf, so I think I shared this before, like in one of the meetings that we had here, one of the conferences, we asked the same question, you know, does everybody understand English, and then they said, yeah, yeah, yeah, no problem, so we just went ahead, the first message, and I was sharing that and first day, first message, so just sharing, and then things were very quiet, you know, and I was wondering, you know, why are people not excited, this is something wrong with me, something was wrong with me, I'm, you know, speaking, maybe then after that, you know, during the break, we checked, and we saw that, okay, people need some help, okay, they know the language, but they definitely would help, it would help if we had translation, so we had one person translated, and it was a very different crowd, okay, so session two, after the break, it's a very different crowd, they are just coming alive, they are responding, and saying hallelujah, amen, and all that, and I'm just wondering, you know, is this the same crowd, is this the same crowd that we addressed, of course, the thing is the language, language made a big difference, right, so speak in the language of the people, just find out and do that, okay, so having said that, the language that we use should be simple, clear, you know, people need to be able to understand without putting in too much effort, okay, you know, it's very, it actually takes a lot of effort to communicate in a very simple manner, especially if there are some complex concepts that you're trying to communicate, right, try teaching a child about, let's say, praying in tongues, or gifts of the spirit, right, just think about it, okay, how would you share that, or even about, you know, salvation, or how would you share that to a child, okay, so you would take some extra effort to make sure that the child understands the language, okay, and when you take that effort, things will be so clear in your mind, the entire concept becomes very clear and sharp in your own mind, your own understanding, our own understanding becomes so much greater when we say, when we think about, okay, how will the other person, when we think from the perspective of the hearer, okay, so many times we are thinking of the perspective of the speaker, you know, I'm the speaker, so I'm going to speak on, let's say, you know, I'm just going to speak on first period chapter two, therefore laying aside all malice, all deceit as newborn babies desire the pure milk of the world that you may grow thereby, I'm speaking from my perspective, okay, I have understood it to a certain extent and I'm sharing it, but if you speak from the perspective of the audience, or if you think about that, okay, how will they receive it, you know, who are they, will they be able to understand words like malice, do I need to, you know, explain it, words like hypocrisy, do I need to explain it, you know, and things like that, the minute I, you know, we think on those lines, then we realize, okay, you know, I need to be a little more clearer here, and it takes a lot of effort, right, and so it's, so that is also part of preparation, right, it's, it's when we, while we pray, we get the message from God, you know, all that is part of preparation, this is also part of preparation, you know, asking God, Lord, how can I just help me communicate it to the best of my ability, okay, it says, right, the scripture that we read just now, before the beginning of the class, it's like, let him who speak, speak as the oracles of God, as with the ability that God gives, which means that we can always depend on and Lord, I want to be able to speak as the oracles of God, I want to be your mouthpiece, I want to be your spokesperson, but give me that ability, Lord, give me that clarity God, right, so that it can be a blessing, so when we speak with that simplicity and, you know, sometimes we hear some messages, and we just blown away by the clarity with which people communicate, right, and there's something for us to learn, so we, which means that we put aside, you know, complex words and so on, so, you know, knowing the audience again, right, so it must communicate the language that we use, must communicate the message very clearly, okay, so they hear it, and we don't need to use very, you know, high-flown scholarly language, okay, we don't need to use that, right, so we're not trying to impress anyone, right, we're not trying to impress the people, we're not trying to impress God, definitely he's not impressed, we're not trying to impress anyone, so why use, you know, such words, well, you know, for example, if the audience is scholarly, let's say you're talking to a bunch of professors and, you know, you can use language which you know that they would understand, they have no problem understanding certain concepts, so you just use that, you go with it, but if you know the audience, then, you know, we need to, you know, tone down our language, make it easy for the hearer to understand, okay, choose words that most people, you know, now we cannot be perfect in this, right, you know, if you're, let's say, in a church ministry, you know your audience, at least 90% of the audience you know, because these are the people who are coming 52 Sundays, so you know the regulars, you know that, you know, there could be some, you know, visitors, there could be some new folks whom you do not know, but then, by and large, you begin to understand, okay, these are the people, but if you're a visiting, you know, speaker, you're an itinerant speaker, then chances are that, well, you may not, right, but, well, you go with the knowledge that you have, you go with the dependency on the Holy Spirit and you do that, right, okay, some more practical things, avoid long sentences with too many words, okay, when I was doing my management studies, you know, we had a professor for personal management, you know, HR, we had this professor who, he delighted in using these long sentences, you know, he will give some, for one word, he will give some four or five options, for example, he will say, you know, whether you are smart or intelligent or, you know, and three other words, just to explain that same thing, and by the end of it, we're all tired, oh man, let them stop, you know, just because you get weary, right, and especially these long sentences, even when you read scripture, you know, there are some long sentences and you need to break it down in order to understand, right, and you do break it down, and so imagine if you hear a long sentence and it's not something that you're looking at visually, you lose track, right, so while it might sound very nice, it might sound very eloquent, actually it's nice, sometimes when you hear these long sentences, it's wonderful, but does it stay, you know, does it benefit, apart from the fact that you enjoyed listening, it doesn't stay with you, okay, so you need to change, right, making it short, making it simple, okay, and the other thing practically is that our language should be correct grammatically, okay, so check, okay, am I pronouncing this word correctly, okay, so I always check, you know, when you go to Google, you have pronunciation, right, when you check the meaning, for example, I just show you that tab, maybe you may know it already, but let me just check, let's take a word, okay, any word that you can think of, some complex word, any word is complex, okay, let's say conspicuous, conspicuous, okay, so conspicuous meaning, okay, so it's there, let me just share that screen, okay, so conspicuous meaning, it's there, okay, it means clearly visible, he was very thin with the conspicuous Adam's apple, so we know, and then, you know, the pronunciation is also there, right, conspicuous, conspicuous, so I said conspicuous, well, actually it would be conspicuous, conspicuous, I think, I don't know if it's the American or the British, but then that's, that's how it's conspicuous, okay, so, so we go with that, right, conspicuous, so next time when I'm preaching, I'll say, I won't say conspicuous, but I'll say conspicuous, so I know that I've learned something here, so, you know, if you're in doubt, just check, you know, I think I've shared this before, but, you know, I used to, I still do, sometimes do voiceovers for church, some of the videos, some of the things, announcements, not as much nowadays where other people do it, but, and I think we kind of stopped doing those voiceovers, so I do the voices, so, you know, at the end of the announcements, you know, there's this line, so those were the announcements, those were the news or something like that, you know, so, so sit back, relax, and be blessed, so for many years, I used to say those were, okay, W-E-R-E, I used to pronounce it as where, so apparently it is actually pronounced as were, the E-R-E is not where, it is where, those were the announcements, it's not those were the announcements, because where is W-H-E-R-E, where are you now, and all my life, I've never said, you know, W-E-R-E was always pronounced where by me, so it is those were, those were the announcements, so, so an English teacher, like she's actually, she used to teach English in our institute, spoken English and otherwise, so she, after, you know, after many other things, she said, she said, Pastor, you know, you need to change that, that is actually, and I said, oh really, it is, and I said, yeah, oh that's a mistake, okay, I'll change it, so then when we did the next round of recording, I changed it, those were the announcements, so there's, you know, things like that, now why do we do that, because for the listener, now we can't please everyone, but we had, what we're doing is, we are removing as many barriers as possible, okay, as many barriers as possible, so that we pronounce it the right way, okay, so as many barriers as possible, now we can't be perfect in everything, and we are just changing and, you know, correcting ourselves and so on, so that's the thing, so, so, you know, let's say, you know, this person who's English teacher, so every time when I said those were, I'm sure in our mind, it was, oh, it's not where it's were, you know, why is he saying this, like, probably, she never told me that, but in the message also, if I'm going to be, you know, using sentences which are grammatically wrong, then I'm distracting the people, right, if I'm using pronouncing words, if I'm using wrong pronunciation, then that again, distracting people, you know, in the same thing, I just want to say that accent also is important, right, so use a neutral accent, you know, like in a place like India, we have different kinds of people from different parts of the nation, I mean, in a classroom like this, we have people from different nations, and so, you know, I need to be careful to, with my accent, right, so I hope I'm using a neutral accent, so most of you can understand, right, but there was feedback in, you know, with the first batch, they said, you need to slow down and speak, and in certain cases, they said, we can't follow your accent, like there are people from Germany and they said, we can't follow your accent, probably if you slowed down, you know, we would understand it, so yes, so those were some, you know, feedback from students, so change that, so also do not put on an accent, you know, that's very, very important, you know, let's say, you know, if you do not put on an accent, just because you feel that it's, oh, I need to talk like someone, right, you know, like, let's say, an American accent or a British accent or, you know, something like that, where, you know, let's say, I'm just reading the notes, okay, avoid long sentences with too many words, make it short, and you know, that's not you, right, that's not me, okay, so do not put on an accent, right, it will again be distracting, and people will actually, you know, think that you're not respecting them, so don't, you don't have to just be yourself, you'll be consistent, because when you put on an accent, sometimes you might say the word, the way you said it, sometimes you may not, you might forget, you're excited about the message you forget, and then your accent drops, right, so do not put on an accent, just be natural, you won't have any, feel any pressure, make sure that the word is pronounced correctly, and you'll be fine, right, okay, so use words that will exactly express the meaning, words should be pronounced correctly, also what happens is, when there's clarity of thought, then our language also is clear, okay, so we have, we are clear about what we are going to speak, right, when you are clear about some of the, what we are about to share, the concepts that we are about to share, the thoughts, the message that we want to share, then our language also is clearer, okay, so if we are unclear about what needs to be said in our thoughts, we are still, you know, distracted, maybe preoccupied, not very clear, then that shows up in our language, like language is, like someone said, language is the incarnation of thoughts, or these are languages closed, thoughts closed with words, right, so that's about the language, okay, any other additional thoughts before we move on to the next one, okay, I think these are just some practical things, maybe, you know, you're already aware of it, right, so the importance of language, some of the practical things that help us in our presentation, right, okay, let's look at one more topic before we close, so that is the different forms of delivery, okay, this message that God has given you, and you know, can I say it in different ways, do I always have to preach it, okay, so that's the question, right, do I always have to preach it, well, the answer is, well, it depends on what kind of audience, it depends on what kind of message, again, it depends on what kind of a meeting it is, what kind of setup it is, right, but you know, these are several ways that you can explore about communicating this message, okay, what is it, you can just say it, that's the most simplest, I mean, simplest one, you know, you say it, you speak it, yeah, that's how it's preached, right, that's how it's communicated, the second thing can be an illustrated sermon, okay, now an illustrated sermon is where all the illustrations come alive as props, come alive as, you know, maybe object lessons, right, I'm sure you've seen, you know, if you watched some of our children's church videos, you'll see that there are some object lessons, you know, to talk about, to talk about, let's say, the work of cleansing, the work of, so they just use chemistry, right, you use a liquid, which is probably red or purple in color, and then you use another chemical, and then you pour that, which is actually clear, you pour that into the purple liquid, and then it becomes clear, so talking about, you know, about the cleansing work of the Holy Spirit and the work of renewal of the Holy Spirit, you know, you use that, right, so you can use, you can dramatize it, you can use an illustrated sermon, I remember one of the, I think it was T.D. Jakes in one of his messages on the, on the pulpit, I mean, sorry, on the stage, I think there was a recreated model of a tank, you know, a battle tank, and he comes in to preach in battle fatigues, like the camouflage, you know, and the whole thing was about spiritual warfare, you know, that whole message, so it seemed appropriate, people could actually relate to it, people can actually, you know, grab people's attention, so it depends, you know, if you want to do that, you can do that, okay, it can also be in story form, okay. Now, I remember listening to a message on Ruth and Naomi, okay, about Ruth, and it was in story form, it was a story, and it was, it was a contemporary setting, okay. Now, it was brilliant, it was a, it was a story in contemporary times, modern times, and so which means the entire scenario, the work, the environment, everything was contemporary, so instead of people working in the fields, they would be, you know, working in a restaurant or an office, or, you know, so that's how it was, and this person just told that story right from the start to the end, and it was brilliant, right, it was a story, the whole thing was a story, but you could, because it was a story, you know, you were so much, you know, you want to know what would happen next and before you realize, oh, I've heard this before somewhere, and it's actually the story of Ruth, right, and, you know, so it can be a story form, okay, and of course, props on stage can be used, you can use people as props, right, there are certain, and I'm sure you've seen that, you know, the work of the Holy Spirit in, in moving a stronghold or empowering a believer, you know, and, you know, use people as props, right, so one person comes on as the believer, there's another person who's the Holy Spirit, and another person is the sin itself, right, so he's a huge guy, sin standing there, and then here's the believer trying to move, you know, that stronghold, that mountain of sin, and he's unable to do that, and here comes the Holy Spirit, so another person comes and he puts his hand on the hand of the believer, and he says, okay, you know, now, now you can do it, so, so, you know, that was Romans 8, if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, so by the Spirit, the Holy Spirit puts his hands on the hands of the believer, on you as a believer, and then you put to, or you move things, you both put to death the deeds of the body, you will live, so it's a powerful image, it stays with you, right, you see that the Holy Spirit actually helps, oh, so this is how he helps, you know, I need to put my hands first, right, I need to take that step to move things, and then the Holy Spirit empowers me, and he pushes whatever is in the way with his strength and with his ability, okay, so we see that, okay, then we can also sing it, okay, or maybe it's a, it can be, the whole thing can be a, the whole message can be actually sung, okay, now this is done in, typically in India in some rural settings, you know, it is done, the whole message is actually sung, narrated, sung and narrated, when I was a small boy, I remember, you know, going to my grandfather's village, and there's a term for it in Tamil, it's called Kathakala Jabam, you know, it's like, it's sung, portions of it is sung, it's narrated, and it's a story, which is actually, you know, sung, and it's a lot of folk, you know, what do you call folk legends, and stories are said this way, are narrated this way, right, there is a story, there is a story that is sung, and you can do that as well, okay, what else, you know, of course to reinforce the message, to enhance the message, you can always use PowerPoint slides, you can use videos, right, these will enhance the message, so there's something visually, you want to show something, you know, you want to show a video, maybe you're talking about, let's say creation, and you want to show a video on it, you can do that, maybe you're talking about, you know, Good Friday, and it's a Good Friday message, and you want, you're talking about, you know, all the suffering that the Lord went through, and maybe you can just show a video, right, so when you, when people see the picture, they're able to understand the gravity of the pain and everything that the Lord went through physically as well, right, so the kind of torture that he went through, so everything, you know, yes words do describe, but then when you show it in a picture, visual form, it is even more impactful, right, it's even clearer, so you can do that, consider doing that, you can enact it, the whole thing can be a play, it can be enacted, like, and it can also be a talk show, right, I remember one, I think this was a Easter Sunday service, Resurrection Sunday service, where we had, it was like a talk show, you know, it was a play, but it was a talk show, the whole service was that, so in that talk show, we had, we had somebody who was actually a host of the talk show, then we had characters from the Bible, right, there was a woman at the well, there was a Centurion, there was, I forget who else, there was Zacchaeus, and there was, sorry, there was Nicodemus, sorry, not Zacchaeus, Nicodemus, you know, who went to meet Jesus in the night, so all these people were there in the talk show, and the host would ask them questions, so why did you do what you did, and what do you think about Jesus, and you know, and especially with the Centurion, it was very interesting that he would say, you know, this is what happened, I think he was a son of God, and things like that, right, so a talk show can also be very, very powerful, and it can be very contemporary, it can make the message relevant to us, maybe at the end of it, you know, somebody can wrap it up, you know, somebody can lead in a time of ministry, and then finish, you know, it can be a powerful time, especially when you're calling people who are unchurched, you know, people who are not used to sitting and listening, you know, to a 40-minute message, you know, maybe you're calling some people who are not believers from people from different faith, this would be ideal, this is engaging, and maybe sometimes at places it's funny, and so it would really be powerful and impactful, okay, so talk show, okay, so we'll stop here, and then we'll look at, when we'll continue with different forms of delivery, where we can preach, where you can teach, where you can prophesy, okay, so we look into that, okay, we'll stop here, thank you so much, God bless. Thank you, Pastor. God bless, bye-bye.