 Okay, it's the breakfast on Bust TV Africa, and it's time to find out what stories made it to the headlines on some of the major national dailies today. Of course, I told you a while ago that Mrs. Ikelenia Tocque, public affairs analyst, is still with us to take a look at this, as he always does on Thursdays. So we begin with the punch newspaper, which leads with Florida Lot, State Orders Evacuation as FG Issues Disaster Warning. The riders there, Nima Ones of Massive Floor in Kano, Delta, Kebi, Plateau, and 10 others. Aqaibom, Delta, other residents demand alternative shelters. When you look above the masthead, you see principal officers, National Assembly Crisis Police, APC, National Working Committee, Adamu Meitz Tinubu. Details of that is on page 23 of the punch newspaper. Telecoms investments heat $75 billion, 5G subscriptions now $60,000, that's according to the NCC. Details on page 20. Tinubu not indicted over forfeited $460,000, that's the Bami Dele telling the tribunal. Page 7 is where you find details of that. Going down, you find some of the lesser headlines. UTME forgery reps order probe. Forderland app developer risks dismissal. Lagos Killer Cup dismissed for shooting generator repairer dead. Page 4 is where details of that can be found. And Nigeria exports $23 billion in electricity. Local consumers lament outage. Details of that is on page 19. From the punch, we move straight to the nation newspaper, which is leading with. Discourse intensify efforts for electricity tires hike approval. Nation companies weighing option of gradual increase in what consumers pay. That's the rider accompanying this headline, Discourse Intensify Efforts for Electricity Tariffs Hike Approval. Senate Minority Leader, we will build Varela position. Nominations in order, well, friction is going on right now at the National Assembly. We'll discuss that deeply when we begin to discuss with Mrs. E. Kelley in your talk. Obinot LP member when nominated to Nubu Tel Stribunnel. President, APC lawyer, tender Labour Party membership register, close defence. All right, so we'll move from the nation newspaper to business day. And business day is leading with first negative FDI in 33 years, piles pressure on Nubu. First negative FDI in 33 years, piles pressure on Nubu. Going down, you have Oresanya report lists cost cuts to raise quick cash. Great G's 241% recurrent budget bump exposes bloated bureaucracy. This Oresanya report, many have been asking for this report to be revisited. We'll see whether President Nubu will go back there. Well, CBN's unsettled effects backlog puts investors on hold. That's another headline on business day. You find details of these when you pick a copy of this paper. They also have farmers 518 billion Naira default exposes anchor burrowers under belly. Page two of business day is where details of these anchor burrowers under belly story can be found. Calls for interest rate hike draw mixed reactions. And what to expect from Twitter rival threats. These are all I'll be taking from the front page of business day. And from there we'll move to the Guardian newspaper, which leads with trouble in health sector as drugs cost of care spike by 150%. Page six is where you have details of that. Later on we'll be speaking with the president of the Manufacturer Society of Nigeria. And we'll be asking him this question. Especially now that a federal government is set to reduce the level of imported drugs into the country from 60% to 40%. So we'll be diving deeply into these very important health situations. And so UTM FLNG meets Nubu on new gas plant promises to crush prices. Page three is where you find that on the Guardian newspaper. SGF, Governors, Editors hail the flagship at 40. Acquabio under pressure faces opera over an even distribution of 500 billion loan to SMAs. Acquabio under pressure faces opera over an even distribution of 500 billion Naira loan to SMAs. And you find details of that on page six. Sports levy, raw over 150 million Naira monthly deduction from police salary. That's a news analysis that will be found on page four when you pick up the Guardian newspaper. And above the mask here you have forest scarcity and Naira devaluation. Okay, so that's all we'll be taking a look at on the front pages. Let's unveil our guests. Izzy Kalenya Otok, Public Affairs Analyst who is joining us from Acquabio State. Good morning to you. Good morning to you. Oh my goodness. Can you unmute yourself because they're not hearing you? Yeah. Oh, we missed the show. I said unveiling. Yes, indeed. Indeed. So many interesting stories on the pages of this newspaper today, these newspapers today. So let's begin with, I think I should begin with one that you would want to talk about and one that I would want you to talk about, especially since he's someone you have a very soft spot for. Acquabio under pressure faces opera over an even distribution of 500 billion Naira loan to SMEs. Talk to us about this. It's on the Guardian newspaper front page. You see, there's a mindset, a mentality that we have in Nigeria, which needs to be corrected. And that's that we have no respect, no regard for data. Because we don't have data, we do analysis on sentiment. And the first thing that I'm going to look at is how much is going to Southwest, how much is going to Lagos, then how much is going to South-South because South-West has a president and then South-South has the Senate president. So we're going to look at those two first before we now talk in terms of how much is going to, you know, the North, that's another block that they are going to look at. I hope you are hearing me. Yes, I am. Great, great. Then we now look at how much is going to the North. So there's this, we're not asking SMEs, MSMEs, what's the kind of spread, national spread like? For instance, today, a lot of the startup texts are relocating to Acquabio. I'll tell you that for free because, you know, the tech world is not location-specific. You know, when my sons came on vacation, they kept saying, please make sure the internet connectivity is good because we are still working. So the office didn't know whether they were in UK or they were in Nigeria. The important thing is that they were having their sessions, they were doing their work. The same is what is happening in the internet world. Now, we are becoming an extremely beautiful city. We are becoming, we are having a governor now, who is... Miss Ania, can you give us background to this loan, this 500 billion SMEs loan for those who do not know? MSMEs loan or grant is the loans or grants for small scale industries for startups. That's why we're talking MSME, medium, small and medium, small and medium scale industries. Okay? Now, like all these pretty traders and things like that, the startups and all those, not the giant industry. So now, these are the drivers of the economy. So if you want to give a kind of boost to the economy, you go to the MSMEs. So this loan, when it comes, has to be distributed because it's a national venture among the states. So the question is, which states get what? And it should not be based because it is issue-specific. So it should go to targets. How many MSMEs are there in Kano? How many are in Jigawa? How many are in Bayosa? How many are... That is the data you now use to do the spread. Okay? Now, if you have a state that maybe you obey or that does not have so much because of national consciousness, you may need to look for a way of popping up even those who don't deserve something like that. So we don't really have the data and statistics. So if they have a lot coming to Aquabomb, they will not realize that it's because the startups are moving to Aquabomb that are creating a more conducive living environment, nicer spaces at relatively cheaper and a more affordable cost. But they will not say, ah, it's because Senate President is from Aquabomb. That is why there is a lot going to Aquabomb. For President, everybody knows that Lagos is the hub of the startups and everything, you know? So they are saying about 40% is going to Lagos. I think we also have to have some level of emotional intelligence and know that these sentiments are there. So the important thing is to come out with a lot of facts and figures and get people enlightened. There's too much... So who is responsible now for the debt, the lack of information? The lack of... Government. Exactly. Government. For instance, I would have expected my brother, the Senate President, to know before time that people are looking at every action he takes to see whether he wants to favor himself or he wants to favor Mr. President, and before, you know, they will start tagging him, you know, Robert Stamp, he should have, you know, this emotional intelligence, this, you know, proactive thinkers that tells him how things should be done. These conversations should have come up before they even come out, you know, by independent people, you know, practitioners, professionals, who now lay the background before the figures come out. So by the time the figures come out, it's like the tracks are being laid and then the trains are just riding. We need to start to bring about cerebral governance. This political governance that we think it doesn't matter, we just discuss and let it out. There has to be a change. The TINWO administration should come with a refreshing change to approach to governance. If they do, they can do the right thing, but where the perception is wrong, they're going to have a bashing. They can even do the wrong thing, but because the perception is right, the society will help to build it right. Anything you do, no matter how good. The society can destroy it. Anything you do, no matter how bad, the society can help it. So see the society as your partners in this new administration and you make a headway. Okay. Well, let's move forward now. First negative FDI in 33 years' piles pressure on TINWO, that's on business day. You see, it's exactly what I talked about in the first instance. Nigeria has six geopolitical zones. There's an X on one whole geopolitical zone and that's Southeast. Why do we have that big X on Southeast because of insecurity? Because of sit at home? These things are all over the world. It's not Nigeria and any serious minded investor will look at the safety climate of the country, of the region. Before they, no matter how profitable, you need to be alive for you to enjoy profit. And I would have expected Mr. TINWO, my president, to know that. And by today, I would have expected the president to make Southeast his focal point for two reasons. Number one is that the Southeast is a very economically viable hub. The second thing is that the sentiment of the Southeast, he can easily break that sentiment and then win the hearts of the people. He knows that, I always say something about the 668, 668, if the two 66s go together, that is 12, 128, 12 is majority, 8 is minority. Now APC had 8 million about that, PDP had about 6 million, labor had about 6 million. Now it means between PDP and labor, leave others out, they have about 12 million, you had 8. So you cannot say you had popular votes, you understand me. Now because 8 is less than 12. So because of that, you need to move faster, okay. He signed the bill for the young people, the loans bill, okay, that could be, but that has a lot of flaws in it. So the momentum it should have created is not that much. Now the judiciary, it was seen as him doing something to please them. And on the other hand, apart from not having popular votes, the removal of subsidy has almost put him in big trouble as necessary as it is, I would say. So a very quick, fast, quick win would have been the Southeast, Namdee Kanu, let's have your discussion on the table. Southeast, everybody move down and make sure that that seat at home nonsense stops. I want peace in the Southeast. No, once he did that, he would win the heart of the Southeasterners. You already from the Southwest, you have no problem. The Southeasterners, now what can you do to pacify the North? Because this is politics, this is governance, this got to be fast thinking, this got to be emotional intelligence, that is what governance is all about. It's not just taking decisions, it has to be decisions that are well thought out that are well strategically laid and things like that. So how will you have FDIs coming in? Number one, your case is being contended in court. People already know the facts and the data, and they know some areas are not looking too good. Number two, a whole region in the Southeast is under fire. You can't go there. And not to talk of the Northeast, the insurgencies and all those things that are still there. The South-South is relatively quiet right now, so things can come up in the South-South. You want to balance out the others so there cannot be any positive FDI in the current situation. You should know that and there are quick wins. I say this again and again. The South-East is a quick win for Mr. President. He can fix it in weeks. He can even decide to say, look, I want to have a tour of the South-East. Imagine you saying you want to have a tour of the South-East. Do you understand me? I want to go to Enubu. I want to go to Abia. I want to see that industrial hub. Let me tell you what used to happen very quickly. In my days, when I was much younger, we used to have two places that we laughed at. Either we said this is Taiwan or we said this is Abahmed. They used to go together. Either we said this is Taiwan or we said this is Abahmed. Fast forward to 2023. What do you think about Taiwan? Fantastic. Where is Abahmed? Nowhere. Mr. President said that Abahmed, I want to see it again. Imagine him having such conversation. I want to go to Enubu and see what's going on. I want to go to Abia, not Abia again, Imo. And see such conversation will change the dynamics and kill that sitter to something. You don't want to address it directly. Namdi Kanu, let's have a discussion on what's really going on. This can be done within days. And he has to show himself as being the president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. It's an interesting suggestion coming from you, Ms. Danielle Tucker. But seeing President Enubu as you have seen him, let's start from the campaign season to after it took office and to now, a few weeks since it took office, do you see him, his body language, his disposition as one who would go to the southeast or who would cut the southeast? Do you see him in any way appearing to consider the southeast as an issue for him, something he considers important at all? I think I'm going to make efforts to have a meeting with him. I'll make that effort, probably through the Senate President or something, because you need to draw a line between Jagaban and the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. It's not, you see, what Guari did for 80 years and we accommodated, we tolerated, we never accepted between accommodated and tolerated. Mr. Enubu will not enjoy that sentiment. He will not. So you know that is his style, but go slow, I've tried my best. He's not going to, for one reason or the other, I don't know why, but I can assure you that he will, it's not because of age, because if it was about age, I mean the age difference is not too much, it's just that for whatever reason, we just, maybe because he was a soldier, but Enubu will get a lot of the sort of pushback he never anticipated. So he needs some very sharp brains to repackage him, to remodel him, and he has to agree to be coached. Ronaldo and Messi as good as they are, they have coaches. Every president must have coaches on protocols, on ethics, on things he cannot do. Whether you like eating abado, if they say you can't eat abado unless you are inside your house. You've got to accept it. No, no, no, that's my life, that's how I, no, no, no. We accepted that with Mr. Bargosloh, former president, but we will not take it from him. And he's a sharp man. Enubu is a very intelligent person, he's a very sharp person, he's a go-getter. So all he needs is to have the right people giving him the right information and get those psychophants off him because they'll put him in trouble. He was known for getting round pegs in round holes, but I'm watching him to see how the pegs are working and his media person right now is not giving me that impression because he should be a reconciler, he should be somebody that is buying the love of the people and not one that is attacking, that attack will take him no way, will do him more harm than he would expect. He should be somebody that can win the hearts of people to him and is like, wow, this is good. What can he do? It caught here. And what he can do is love. It caught here. Love is, love is, I'm not from the South East, though I'm an in-law, but you should love South East for his own sake. Yeah, alright, well said, well said. I want to see the day where you walk into Asurok and have this conversation with them, because I think it's actually very necessary to have Nigerians all united and everyone feeling unequal in the state. Let's move forward to the next very important headline here. Oresanya report leased cost cards to raise quick cash. FG's 241% recurrent budget bump exposes bloated bureaucracy. Many analysts have pointed to this Oresanya report. And if I'm not mistaken, you probably also have. What's your take on this very headline? Oresanya report is a very concise and professionally put result that is not politically correct. Okay, I'll tell you why. So you differ? No, no, I agree completely with. I say it's not politically correct. Okay, not politically correct. Okay, I get your point. I get your point. But professional and what will help this country? Now, I asked the question, which Jagaban are we getting? Is it that a milokon of my town to also be president, to also do my own, or is that a milokon, my town to also show that Nigeria can be fixed, to also show that leadership must be beyond primordial sentiments. My town to come and tell Nigerians that we have Nigerians that we can compare to the likes of Lee Kuan Yew and the rest that are focused on targets and the good of the country. Is that my town to come and give Nigeria the leadership it deserves and play down. You know, my father in law used to say in those days, some of these jokes are not lost on our children because those days rise before you cook rise. You have to bring that big tray, put it and then, you know, kind of pick it and remove all these stones, okay? Before you can cook rise. But you know, this we don't know that again. So my father in law used to say there is too much rice in this pot of stone. You know, in Nigeria, government and politics are like a pilot and the engineer. Politics is the pilot, is the engineer who gets dirty, who knocks, who does this, the oil and everything. When he finishes fixing the aircraft, he leaves, people come and clean up the aircraft and then you see the pilot coming in, in their immaculate, specable, you know, outfit looking all, you know, sharp and prim and proper. Then they come in, they have their protocols, they have their dynamics. Now, politics is like the engineer. Politicking, all sorts of this finished. Now is the governance. Governance runs on certain rules, fundamentals and dynamics. That is why we have become the poverty capital of the world because we are moving too much politics into governance. In fact, there is too much governance in this politics. You know, it shouldn't be so. Too much politics in this governance. In fact, there's too much politics in this government. You know, it should be the other way. But what I'm trying to bring out is this. In taking decisions in the things that he sets out to do, let him consider in the Ourasian report, he's going to tell you that there are too many duplications in our agencies, MDAs, and we're spending too much money. He's telling you that our overhead, you know, in budget, you talk in terms of the recurrent and the capital, the recurrent, you talk in terms of, you know, salaries and wages and then running of government. Then you realize that salaries and wages and running of government, which is the recurrent, okay, takes so much. And then the capital, which is actually the engine that should drive the system, is so little. So how are you going to make progress? Ourasian report says let's reverse this and actually interrogate our recurrent. And in recurrent, let us see where the money is going. How many ministries do we have? Okay, the constitution says you must have a minister from each of the states of the Federation. Beautiful. We agree. So the question is now, rather of recent, you know, the revenue, revenue, whatever mobilization is now even toying with increasing the salaries of public office holders that over the years, everybody has been shouting that these guys are getting too much money. It means that there's a complete disconnect between this building government and those of us outside. It means that whatever we are talking here, they're not even hearing because for the person to as much as think, think of increasing salaries of political office holders, there must be something fundamentally wrong. We're not in the same system. And then it's at the same time that Mr. President is telling us that we may need to tighten our belts, that harder times are coming. I expected Mr. President before a rational report to say fellow Nigerians, you know, things are hard and I want to lead from the front. I have been blessed by God to be able to take care of myself and my family. So in the next four years, I want to cut the government house fee and all those things. I can take care of myself. I don't really need it. Number two, my AIDS are going to also have to realize that we don't have money. This is biting hard with the removal of petroleum subsidy. The poor man is going so broke and things are hard. Let's let me start by making certain sacrifices and fellow Nigerians. We're all going to have to do same. Do you understand me? Imagine him coming out and starting with himself and with his cabinet and that my ministers, I'm sorry to say, if you're not coming here for service, then don't just bother because it's not going to be business as usual. All those foreign trips and this and that, we are in hard times and we must be willing to take some very, very hard decisions because we want to rescue this country. So if you're coming in for bloated this, perish the thought. Imagine my president coming on a chart. He can call a media person that he likes. You know, a more relaxed answer. You know, my sister, the way things are, we've got to make sacrifices. I've decided, I've discussed with my family all our trips private. We're going to sponsor ourselves. God has blessed me to be able to do that. And I'm going to have, you know, there was a guy, let me call a name. There was a guy, Senator Udo Udoma, you know, who went to him on three occasions. He turned down ministerial appointment. And some of us were that close to him, went to him and said, what's going on? He said, Ezekiel, I come out poorer as a minister. I've given my best right now. Let me face my, and it sounds so, I come out poorer because he goes there. He does the right thing. He does not get involved in any funny things. His business has been left. You know, those are people that we should go as a nation and beg them. Yeah, sadly, we have so many career politicians who are just all over the place looking for how to ponder. We need to retire them. People should be retired now, sister. 12 times need 12 men that can take 12 decisions. That's where we are now. We need to retire them. So we need a leader who does not need to be, we need a leader who is not seeking to be politically correct, but a leader who put Nigeria first. First. First. Have we found that? Have we found that in President Ahmed Tanubu? That remains to be seen. We are watching to see if we have found that in President Tanubu. And just as we're talking about these political careers, this career politicians, let's go to the headline on the punch newspaper, The Masked Head. You have Principal Officers, National Assembly Crisis Plates, APC National Working Committee, Adamu Mitz Tanubu. Let me see, politicians and political parties should please shut up and pack. When you give a man a job, allow that man to choose his tools so that if it's good, we clap for him. If it's bad, we blame him. National Assembly have gone and they have chosen the people they want. And you are here, you know, having attitude. They didn't consult you. Consult you as what? And they won't say they did, but assuming they did not. Mr. Apabio and the House of Reps president have decided the people they want to work with. In fact, they have consulted among themselves and chosen their principal officers. And you said they did not consult us. Our hands were not there. To do what? To decide who I'm going to work with? You see, these are the things that we Nigerians should rise and say, look, give them a free hand. Let them choose so that at the end of it, because these are principal officers. Okay, it means that when they want to now do oversight and the committees and chairman of committees, there's too much politics into our governance. Yeah, but some have argued that, some are arguing, as this is unfolding, that what played out is simply selection, that it's not democratic. That is for who is complaining? The opposition. Apart from the APC national working committee led by the chairman, Adamu. Opposition members are saying that the national assembly is losing its freedom. It's been sabotaged and that what happened is pure selection and not an election. Two questions. Who is complaining? National assembly or outsiders? You must answer that question. I just said so. On a serious note, Nigerians need to be told that there is a way some things are done in the national assembly. I saw in the House of Reps where every one of them stood up one after the other and say, I support this person. I support this person. And at the end of the day, how can you say that it wasn't democratic? I saw it. You now go to the Senate. I sat and saw it. I saw them count, not count, cast the ballot. I saw it. In fact, when they were counting, I almost had heart attack because my candidate, when I started seeing, you know, the vote from the other side, I'm like, Jesus, it's nothing. We all saw it. They counted the vote. It was so unbelievably close. 46, 53, or 63. It was close. The difference was nine people. Nine people. That's what we would abuse at 17. No, the difference was nine people. For instance, minus nine from Acpabio brings him to 54. Okay. Plus nine for the other guy, you know, takes him to 55. Subtract nine, add that nine to that. That guy would have nine votes. What's the difference? Nine votes, nine people. Do you understand me? So we saw it. So at what point did it become undemocratic? So I think, sister, let's leave them. Do what they want to do in the chamber so that when I want to blame you, I'll blame you well and not to say, ah, they were imposed on us. Acpabio cannot say that anybody was imposed on him. That's why some of us as his friends have to go to his, like mosquitoes, go to his ears and keep shouting because Nigeria, we said, he had to bed you when you said the man was good. Uncommon, uncommon. So that uncommon has to come on. That is why I threw that first headline to you, the issue concerning the SME loans, because you say it's such an uncommon personality. And here we're starting with that report. Yeah. He, he, he, he, between you and I off records, they acted on available data and services, but the communication was not adequate. And as a result, it looked kind of, um, John Deist in a way. So that communication. We don't need excuses this time around in your talk. We don't. We want leaders who have, who know what they're doing. I mean, you can't do something as serious as that. And not be as transparent as possible, knowing all the vested interests. Okay. So we'll move forward to flood, a lot still on the punch newspaper, flood, a lot States order evacuation as edgy issues, disaster warning. Perhaps I should give you the riders to this. Neema wants massive flood of massive flooding, Carno, Delta, Kebby, plateau and 10 other states. Okay. Acquire bomb Delta. Other residents demand alternative shelters. You see, um, the issue of flooding is something that we face every year. And every government, because they have limited period for years, they tried very hard to dodge it and hope they can complete their tenor and move on. Because if you are to attack, let me take a quite bomb state for instance, if you are to attack flooding, the way that will be sustainably addressed, you're going to give yourself nothing less than a 10, 15 years action program. The first thing is mapping the water routes. Apart from the banking of where the water, you know, the first is where is the source, the major source. Number two is what is the path and you try to block the major source and you try to clear the path because water will clear its way. When you have done that analysis, you are going to have to relocate communities. In that process, you are going to have to give them new environment that's a mega project that does not come in four years. And if you start and you are not sure of continuity, you are going to have a situation where people are going to jettison the money that you have sunk in. It's like doing a very serious piling and piling and piling without the soft structure coming up to carry the 35 story building. If you live without the super structure, people will come and say, look at how this man wasted a month on it. That is why I told Akwaibom and said, look, let us come and sit down all parties, non-partisan, and if Nigeria can do that, it will be wonderful. And let Akwaibom people own a process of evolving a 30 years roadmap that is not government specific. It's not my thing. If you can have the animation of with the people of Akwaibom, it means that whoever is coming is going to run on the agenda of Akwaibom people, not Nyaito. Anything that is Nyaito, one Nyaito gives office, it ends with him. So we've not been able to come to that animation of being able to marshal out a 30 year program that is put in our constitution because it is done by us from all parties. That is when you can now give a development agenda and plan to controlling the flood in Akwaibom. The same thing can be taken from the micro to the macro. Nigeria can, in fact, it's even better if it is done as a national template. We look at all the national boundaries, how they come in, we look at all the states how it's affected, and then we work out a national plan where the national assembly is part of it and they make it part of our law so that there's going to be this consistency over a period of, say, 20 years we'll be able to address. But when you just come and say, let's attainable address flood. He knows he has too many other things to do. He knows that the money he has is limited. So he's going to limit himself to the things that make him look good. Incidentally, that's the policies that we play. We don't look at foundational policies. We look at the superstructure. What did he do? What did which bridge? I built road, I built bridge. What? Time will not permit us to delve deeper into this because this is a very sensitive matter. A very sensitive, annually these warnings are given but as you have said, they just brush it off as, because if they had taken time years ago to begin to lay these foundations that you're talking about, wouldn't be here today. And if you look around the IDP camps across the country or the different parts of the country where you have them, the state that the people there are in, quite deplorable, very sad to see fellow Nigerians living like that. Money's budgeted for them. You see them clearly diverted. It is sad. That's it. It is. So let's quickly touch on a very last one, which is the UTME forgery, Reps Order Probe, Fordland app developer risk dismissal. The jam matter. Number one, I want to commend the House of Reps who got into this issue and they've said jam, can you just take action and let's look into this matter. Number two, I want to say that jam was being a lot too hasty. Common sense will show you that this young girl, there's a fourth columnist. There's something wrong somewhere. Not just that she fought, she fought. She told her like, no, even by looking at the girl, you'll know that she's a victim of some sort. So I expected jam to say, look, we are in the know of this situation and we are looking into it. It wouldn't take us more than one week. Within seven days, we will come up with the situation report. We'll know where the problem came in and what to do. Now they've banned the girl for three years from jam. They are doing this taking, it's hasty. It doesn't make sense. Okay, let's leave it at that and see how it unfolds. Let's see what this probe will come up with. Ezekiel and Yatok, thank you so much for your time. Thanks and God bless you. Always a pleasure to have you. Ezekiel and Yatok, public affairs analysts, find us an off the press from Iquibum State. Stay with us. We'll be back with our first hot topic on the breakfast.