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But if you've watched our show and you've been tuning in and a lot of you guys have, these two guys are special to us because of their son, Woody, too, live. You know what I mean? And these guys here, man, like I said, I met the husband at the funeral. Not the husband. Well, the father. The father. She said she's a chitchat. Correct me, not the husband. Not the husband. The father. What husband? Her husband. No, no, we may pull in if it can happen. You never know this. She's like, just be prepared. Yeah, it could happen because I get to ask some questions and anything can happen, you know, because I want to hear the stories that tie to him. Those are the things that the people want to hear anyway, you know, because we only knew Woody from what he told us on the show. You know what I mean? And this was the last show that he'd done. You know what I mean? So, two-fold, that whole, yeah, Tim, come on. That whole, the whole clique of people that come over here, even since Woody passed on, I've called them back because I'd be, you know, just seeing how they're doing, you know what I mean? But he was the first one to come on my show. I had just started. That's why when you asked me, he was like, how long have you been doing it? Think about that for a minute. When he first came, I hadn't been doing it long. You see what I'm saying? I was just getting started. And of course it blew up. Everybody talking about it. It's known. Everybody flying in and the country wanes and all the people in the phase on love. It's cool now, but when it wasn't cool as the people I look at, like, Woody had a following, you know what I mean? And he had a people that followed his movement and he had been into some stuff already where the bloggers was posting him when he had gotten shot the first time. So I seen him. And when my son told me, I looked him up. I said, man, he'd been on Terry Blue in the show Dallas Globe. I was like, man, I got to get him on here. And my son was like, that's family, you know what I mean? So I was like, man, you know, once we got him on here, we had so much fun that day. You know what I mean? So I know you always have some things you want to know. So I got to get her perspective because I over talk with y'all. I ain't gonna lie. No, we like to take it back to you want to know what it was like growing up in the area that you were raised in, your environment. And then let's fast forward to Woody being born and how y'all met and stuff like that. Look how he looking like that. All of that. So go ahead. Let's start with you, Sharika. Well, we both grew up in Grand Perry. Mm-hmm. And I think we went to elementary school together. Oh, OK. Like in Malam. OK. Yeah. So as we got older, I think I met him again. Even though we lived in the same neighborhood, we didn't, you know, see each other and like that. I think I was like, what, 18? Probably 20. He always had an egg like I'm real older than him. Well, she told you 20, but she was probably on the head. Is that what you were trying to say? No, because I was on the head. Oh, OK. I believe you. I did. We don't take advantage of you. I'm here with you, brother. Let's go. I knew he was gonna say that. He always say that. But that's not what happened. I thought he was older because he always been around older and people. OK. And then he had the dogs and all that still. Yeah. So we met and then we had our older son, which is Daniel Paco. And then we had Wode. So when I was pregnant with Wode, he had to go do time in prison. How long was he? How long were you going for? But they didn't want him to leave until after Wode was born. OK, that's good. So he was about two weeks old. Yeah. That's good. At least you were there to see that. But Wode was very advanced. He was walking at five months. He threw his bottle away. He never stood up past the fire. He started talking where you can understand his words when he was like 11 months. Wow. Like he was very fat. He talked to other Paco. Paco was always real slow behind Wode, even though he was older. He like, he taught Paco how to walk. Yeah. Like he probably trained Paco. No. And even like, Wode probably trained himself when he was like eight months old. And he was always taller. So everybody thought he was older than what he was. But he has always been very advanced. Like I put a baby bed up for him. He used to jump out. And Paco would be staying up there because they had it together, waiting to get out. And Wode was like, man, come on. It's so funny how you can have multiple kids and they're never like the same. They're always like total opposites. Totally opposite. But Wode was the one very intelligent when it comes to education. He's always very smart. But he had the smartness with everything. Like he knew the street light, the books. He knew the hustle. Did he just pick it up or somebody taught him? He just picked it up. But I'm assuming because of the people we around, like our family. Mm-hmm. So he was just, he cussed. Oh, he cussed so big. So by the time... Who did he get that from? Like just from being a, you know... Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at him. He just cussed like really. But people grown will come pick him up. They want to ride with him. Mm-hmm. They want to, you know, hit blocks with him. And he like one years old. And he in the front seat holding the money. He just, he always just been... Been in the, in the, in the rhyme like... People just, even his friends when he was gone they would come get them. Paco being a big seat sucking a pacifier. And Wode in the front seat with the money. So that's because... Growing up, Paco, everybody be Paco. Because, you know, that's why his name is Paco. Because he's like a little Spanish baby. Okay. So all her friends, they always came and picked him up. You know what I'm saying? They always carried him. And held him. So that's why he was like that. And Wode, he was like out the gate, he was gone. He was, he was doing him. So, you know, that's why he, he advanced like he did. And then he was, Paco was way more... Paco always been the type of child where he was a crowd pleaser. Like he wanted, he wanted everybody to get along and he wanted to shine for everybody. He don't want to, you know, mess up his image. Wode never gave it down. Ever. Ever. Ever. Like you couldn't beat it out of him. What, um, I want to go back on your, just how you, because she told her side. But I want to hear your side. Because it's probably more exciting. No, I doubt. I'm riding with the man's side. So, you know, I'm already, I'm building this bridge, this wall up. But just tell us a little bit about you and just coming up, you know, in Dalworth than just how it was. Because I heard a lot about it, actually. When I was going through my thing, I would hear about Dalworth. Dalworth, you would hear a lot about that, that part of Grand Prairie. Yeah. So, you know, I'm my early 80s baby, you know. So, I grew up in Dalworth, but my mom and she actually tried to keep me out of Dalworth. Okay. She moved. It was never really too far, you know what I'm saying? But we were far enough to where we could walk, but it was far enough to where you didn't need to be there. But I always ventured back. As I got older, got in my, you know, how to get to the point where you were smelling yourself, I wanted to go back to the hood. I wanted to stay in my green. And it got to the point where, you know, she couldn't do nothing with me. So, that's why I went back to the hood. And then from there, you know, I kind of got into the streets, started doing my things, started doing, you know. And I was probably about, honestly, I was like 16 when I met her. Okay. I seen her walking. I knew who she was who went to school together. I said what I said to her. We started talking with her, whatever. Everything transpired. We ended up with the kids. Wow. At 18, I get locked up. I go to the detention for two years. So you had Paco and what about the time you was 18? No. I had Paco Tory. I had his daughter. Okay. Shout out to her Danny Dollison. Okay. She cooked a major show. She made a show. I might need to get on the show. She cooked and we can bring them burners in here. I'm getting hungry now. Let's get out of there. She's a natural. She go in. So it was Paco. What did she cook at? Right now she's at her house. Okay. She's catered. She's catered. That's the best way to do it in the overhead. Yeah. She's smart with it. She's smart with it. So it was Paco and Tory. So when I left at 18, I was going to send Houston High School at the time. I was in detention for two years to come home. But by that time, her family had already put the influence on Wode. You know what I mean? She was two. She come from the tight family. She got the tight family that you don't want to get tired of with. You know what I'm saying? You don't want to be on the good side. You damn sure don't want to be on the bad side. Wow. So it's like that. So it's her. Okay. Yeah. So you feel it. I really feel it. Like I get it. So it was like that. And so when I come home, I was braised up pretty decently. My granny, she was a big influence on my life. My work, everything. My mom and my daddy, it was terrible. My granny, she was a huge influence. She kept that money on your books. Who? Your granny. No. No. She didn't keep no money on your books. Did she write you the letters? No. She did the choice where it is to help you or help your kids. Yeah. That's how my mom was. That's how my mom was. So like when I did that two years, I see my mama like twice. Yeah. Because financially, she couldn't do it. Again, she was helping me. I got three kids on the streets. So she helping them with the kids. What year was that? That was from 99 to 2000. What state? No. 2000 to 2000. Well, yeah. I left in January 2001 because I had already had three months. Okay. Back time. Yeah. They ran there with it. And where did you go first? Forza Peninsula. Yeah. Okay. First, I went to... I read. No, no, no. No, I went to Middleton. I went to Middleton. I went to Plainview. I got bench wanted because I was on paper in Dallas already. When I got my time out of Taren County. So when I came back, I went through Hutchins. Then I left Hutchins. I went to... Yeah, they be doing that. I think I went to... What's it? Now, what was the other... What was the other transfer facility? You got... I know it was Middleton and Gurney. Gurney. Yeah. So I went through Gurney. So I get to Gurney and I get in a scuffle. You know what I mean? Of course. My office fly. You know what I mean? I ended up whooping the dude. So... You went to Gurney and 6-4 was down there. That's my home girl. She worked down there. Yeah. Let's get to it. Yeah, real speech. Talk around. They look... Now, you remember Tomahawk? Yeah. She was married to Rambo. Oh, okay. I heard stories about him. Yeah, 6-4 was... Yeah, she was doing that thing down there. But that was good. I canned him when you locked up. Yeah. Look at him. He remembers. Hey, when I tell him I said, you shot me back right there. You shot me back. I be tripping. That's why it's so crazy, man. I'm not even saying it. Yeah. But I definitely... Yeah, 6-4, she was one of those... Matter of fact, she's Nene's aunt, Tray's mama. Uh-huh. That's one of her best friends. Okay. So she lived in Marj, but she was working down there at Gurney. Yeah. Yeah, that's... Yeah. So that's how... My daughter actually a prison guard right now. At a woman's prison. At a woman's prison down in Austin. Uh-huh. Okay. So, yeah. That's something that... I tell her to treat those people right. I say, you got some bad one, but there's some good people in there too. I say, you know, you just never know, man, who you're going to be dealing with, or what they might have been in their fourth day of color, to be honest with you. A lot of them be wrongfully accused. I've had some lawyers and stuff on here now that really show you that there's a lot of people that don't do certain things and get caught up. Right. And they've forced it on them. Especially in those times where you talking about it right there. Them times right there, we... I could just say it like this, how'd you feel when you were in that courtroom? You don't look like it was supposed to be there for you. You know what I'm saying? You know, like you belong... Now, because honestly, they... I mean, at 18, they didn't give me no choice. My only option was to... They didn't try to give me no probation. See? Now, if you remember another look of another race... Yeah. I guarantee you, you wouldn't even... Probably even went to jail. And I got friends that talk about this. Yeah. That art of the other race, to be honest with you. They like... They never took the oaths for that. You remember that later? I got stopped sometime with DWI. Nobody never took me to jail for that. I'm like, damn. Yeah. It's real. It's definitely a privilege thing, you know? Yeah. So you get down there, you do your time, you come back home. What is... Two. He's two. Two. Yeah. He write it too. So he... I remember like yesterday, I come home. I come to her granny house. They all outside. You know, they got a huge family. Yeah. It's a lot of cousins and they all around the same age. It's a lot of them. So he had Nicky and all that old stuff, her alone. Yeah, good enough. You know what I'm saying? He always like her and her alone. Whatever doing him. And I'm just shaking my head, you know? Because you got him doing him, but you got Paco. You know, Paco, he been the baby. You know, my daddy's baby. Yeah. Everybody's baby, really. But anyway, what he was doing him. He was seen in like, I got to get him. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because I've been taught better. That's Paco ran out and hugged him. Dad. And what he like, what's that blue? I had two. Wow. A regular two-year-old would have ran to you. He been live. He been live. So, you know, I'm broke. So I mean, you know, I'm in the hood. Yeah. That's what it is. So often, you know, I get back active. You know what I mean? One of my little partners, he pulled something. He blessed my gang. And he said, I'm going to take off. So I started doing me. You know, of course, I got the kids. I'm trying to raise a kid, being a father to my kids. But you know, I had him with me a lot, you know. But I'm doing my thing at the same time. And I'm feeling like I'm doing what I supposed to as a father. And I'm realizing. They watching. And watching more than I realized. You know what I mean? Because you should get young. You don't really believe that they're watching like that. You think they're too young to know. Exactly. Like they don't understand. But they really do the whole time. So I'm doing what I got to do. Hit that button. You record. Okay. You know, we was doing pretty decent. You know what I mean? I had a young lady that I started dealing with on a regular basis that I was with. You know, she was pretty good to them. They was coming up and all. And all of them. Yeah, it was a lot of them. So in 2004, I'm doing good. I'm doing real good. You know what I mean? I got, you know, I got 18 with a little box truck. I'm doing my thing on the box truck. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Easy way. Yeah. Cleaning money. Everything was good. And one time one of my partners was having a part in the cliff. I had just knocked me off of SSP. Got it out. You know, I was the thing back then. You don't grab your SS. You know, they know you done made it. Yeah. So I grabbed me one. What color was it? It was black. Right off the show. That's just like, that's the black like Robert. Okay. Yeah. So I just tell her who got the car like it. We still got these cars popping around like that. Yeah. I got one now. Yeah. You got one now too. See? I got 72 Chevelle SS. Let's go and put that out there right there right now. I got a couple of them. But anyway. Me too. Well, I had it. I didn't even ever drive that Cadillac. I lost it. Damn. Yeah. So go ahead. I grabbed it. I'm going to a party in the cliff. And at the time I was on the box truck. I had made a run come back. The lady I was with at the time told me don't leave. She's going to come to the house. She was doing some hair. I'm going to come to the house. So I'm like, I don't want to be here. I paid my mama to come sit with the kids at the house. So I can go to the party. Somebody called me from the hood. I go drop some off in the hood. I still got like two zips with me. I'm coming down the freeway. I'm blowing. Coming down 360. And on Arkansas. 360 should walk with it. Yeah. Come on now. You know what I mean? When I'm pressing up there, I'm thinking there's somebody walking. The whole time it's a lobby clocking. So you know, when you're going up like this here on 360, you can't see on the other side at speed trail. It was like two loud calls and my full motorcycle calls. I'm blowing this glass house. You know, so I'm sliding. And when I see the lights, I get over. You know what I mean? I'm trying to think how I'm going to do it. But I get over because I know I'm driving lights insurance. Did not mention just the first car ahead of my name ever. Yeah. You know what I mean? But I felt like because I got my businesses out and made it. You know what I mean? You can do it. Yeah. I'm still sleeping, you know? So long story short, dude pulled me over. I know they in the center console. He gave me out the car with it over there. At the time, just one of everybody's wanting an S-car jacket. Even them jackets had the beanies with the bill, you know? So I got it tucked over my eyes because I'm trying to play the camera. I ain't never telling my face to the camera. You know what I mean? So dude, get ready to go in the car because you smell the weed. I didn't put the blunt inside the air freshener. Yeah. Put the tie back on. Put it in the door. As soon as you get ready to grab, you know, go in and get the answers, I grab them. I throw them out the way. Yeah. I jump in the car. You know, it's the 96th. So I'm in the flow. I snatched them in the flow and I see them fire with his gun. Yeah. And when he fall, I know he's going to start shooting. You know what I mean? One, I'd already assaulted him. You know, I threw you to the ground and then you grabbed your gun. So I exit off and made for you. I stayed in Grand Parade off Mayfield. Yeah. I get away from him. Helicopter's everything. Beat the dogs, everything. But I totaled my car in a process. Yeah, yeah, yeah. By the grace of God, I jumped out of the car. Car's spinning and everything. But what happened to car when I hit this church sign, when I tried to turn in the neighborhood, the car's spinning on the side of the church. So when it goes on the side of the church, it's in the black side with a light in it so they can't see it. The lights knocked out. Laws keep going. So I jump out of the car, taking the chain, cold out of it. Get to the house. My momma at the house, I tell her, hey, momma, I pay my momma. He ain't gonna go. You know, I'm breathing hard. She's breathing hard for a while. I just ran from, you know, whatever. It's all right, momma. So my lady pulled up. She's like, shit, what a black car. Say, look, man. She's going around the corner right now. Around the corner, you know. And she was going on. She, she, because she asked, she's like, you've seen a lot of them Laws and helicopters. And I said, yeah, go over there and check it out. So she go over there. When she go over there, she come back. She in tears. What did you do? What did you do? I was just wasting. I told you, I told you, because she was older than me. She was probably older than me. So I messed up or whatever. What did they charge you for? Doing all of that. What did they try to charge? They're gonna take the highest thing they can find. What they did, they charged me for. Assault. Assault on the peace officer. Felling invading in a motor vehicle. I mean, of course, I got rid of the issue. Yeah, of course. And that gave me, I had probably about $1300 with the tickets. Because all the tin and grandparent gave me the same tickets. Because I ran from all the tin to grandparent, they gave me the same tickets. So I get away with everything, right? I'm still driving the box truck, whatever. I had just, I had got my mama a new car, right? The tag, paper tag was out one day. I went to the store in the hood on my lunch break. Really was driving something off in the hood. Go back, you know, in my mama's car on the lunch break. Going to the store, getting something to drink. So I go back to my truck. A lot jammed me. But it was a new law in the hood. So everybody knew all the laws. All the laws knew who doing what. Yeah. But they got to catch you, you know? So I was in my short bid a couple weeks before. This new law seen me. Like at the time in Delaware, it was zero tolerance. Like no stopping, no standing. So you stopping, they stuck, you stop somewhere, they standing, they gonna jam you. Yeah. I'm in the middle of the road, again, because somebody hollered at me about something. So when I see the law, I burn out. I'm not knowing one of my tail lights was out. Yeah. I pull up in one of my old school partners, y'all, when he hit the lights on me, that's when he tell me, give me the ticket and everything. But again, I don't remember this law. He knew. So I'm thinking it's just that she, if he was working at one time, just so happened, that's the same law that stopped me. I know I got these ones out, but I know that I know the laws and I know the time they work. So I know what time to go and what not to. So this one particular did just so happen. You know, this is our guard work. So he come back, I give my brother name. Yeah. Yeah, I did that before. He come back here like, hey, man, I ain't gonna charge you with feeling the ID. You know what I mean? But I know who you are. You got a felony one. I saw him, he saw us. I played a role. Like I don't know where they were. I go to jail. But the thing is he allowed one of my partners to take my mom to the car. So which was cool. He take it back or whatever. So I ended up bonding out or whatever. And she, you know, she went down here from there. But how long did you do that next bit? I got blessed, man. I had to do two the first time. This time I got a three. But I had Bill Cox and I had another Dick Brown out of Tarrant County. What I did, I brought them together because I had a young lady in Houston the whole time that I was rocking with. She, you know, she said she was going to testify. I say I was down there because the load I had, I went to Schubert. Schubert is right in between San Antonio and Houston. Yeah. So I said I was in Houston. I left Schubert with the Houston. She was going to testify and everything. But they told me, hey, just on reasonable doubt, they can take you to trial. Yeah. Do the fact of your history and everything. And he's like, you know, it's a good chance because I was, you know, in my paperwork, I was a jackrabbit. They know they stopped me. I'm running. You know, if you see, you give me out of the car, I'm running or whatever. Yeah. And how long, you did the three? Did you do the whole three? No, no, I did 19 months on the three. 19 months on the three. And the rest on parole? Right. That's when I parole to San Antonio. I moved to San Antonio in 2007. I've been there ever since. Wow. Man. So when you, and this, you know, when he gone during this time, you, you raising them boys on your own or trying to. The first time, the second time I was gone before he was gone. You was locked up. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So it was a point in time my mama had, and we both in the penchant at the same time. Same time. So yeah, he come from it. He seen it. I always see when you, when you left. When I left, he was four. Four. Okay. How long were you gone for? Two years. Two years. So this is something that, that this definitely trickles down. It definitely. But he, but he left like I was already there for a year and a half. So when, when he left, then I came home. Okay. Did you both come home around the same time? I came home like six months before he did. What was, what was it like when you came home? Yes. For warding him and they seen you and. It really wasn't bad because. It was a day when you came home. Six. Six. Four and five. Okay. Four and five. But his, his ex wife, her mama, they always brought the kids to see me. Like they would come from San Antonio to. Where was I at in Gainesville? So they were, but I never had met her before. So she just reached out one day and wrote me a letter. But this is my first time going to jail for anything. So I'm already messed up. I don't want to be here. So she just show up one day with him, with the kids. And so she saw it coming every evening. How did it make you feel to see him for the first time? Why you locked up? He was happy? Yeah, I was real happy. Like me and Wody, we always, like Paco, he always cried. Like, but Wody, he always like, mom, keep your head up. Like. This guy here. And just think he's, he's so young and he's still talking like that. Don't cry in front of nobody. Don't, you know, show no emotions. Like he knows. Yeah. That's so crazy. That is really crazy. And so, you know, one thing I've always, because I hear a lot of people tell us, well, my parents was locked up. My parents was locked up. And I've never really had the opportunity to hear from a parent who was locked up. How did it feel being locked up away from your kids away from your family? You know, the reason it was so terrible for me because I honestly did not do it. That's the most terrible thing. There we go. Like, here we go. That's the thing. Yeah, that is right there. I knew that was coming. Me and Mr. Walter always being friends. Like we've been over, like we always just been friends. Right. But he had to type of women and always thought it was something. And it really wasn't nothing. So I get caught up in his woman thinking that it's something, but it's not. So she sent her friend to come fight me. When I'm letting her get the kids every weekend, like they always got them. But Wode the type, you do, you punish him. Mama be her ass. She put, she hooked me. So I used to listen to that. Oh, I'm going to hook this bitch. Yeah. Put her hands on my face. Yeah. So he knew exactly how to play you. Yeah. Like anytime Mr. Walter do something, Wode don't want to go back. So he was like, mama, she hit me. So then I called her because we cool. I'm cool with all his women. So I'm like, what happened? She's like, oh, you, you ain't, it ain't about the kids. It's about him. She's like, come meet me and fight. So I go meet her and fight her. She put me in jail. And she the one who would say, come fight. Yeah. Then she called, she's the police already on the call. She trying to set you up. Yeah. So when I go to jail, I tell him, you better give me out. Like this is your fault. And y'all was young too. So she dropped the charges. But then she sent her home girl who deal with mental disabilities to come fight. So when I fight her, then they like, oh, you assaulted a disability patient. So when I go to jail. That's crazy. Yeah. So I'm not thinking they're going to send me to prison. So I take a polygraph test. You pass it. But then you got a witness. They say, no, she did this. And then the witness was my cousin. Damn. They go with the girl. By your cousin. Wow. And then I never know that. I don't want to fight my cousin after that. I never know this till I'm in jail. And I get a letter from him. He in jail. Oh, I'm sorry. Love make you do crazy things. I wish I wouldn't know. You didn't know he did. I had no idea to that day. So when they, they try to give me 10 years, I'm about to cut my throat. I don't even can't even do this time. I'm not going to be able to do this. I'm about to die in here. So I'm so suicidal through the whole process, the office. And you wasn't thinking about your kids at all? No, cause I'm ready to go cause they got their daddy and nine step mamas. So. I'm ready to go. So then they come back and like, well, we could give you two years. And so Mr. Walter like take the two years. I got the kids take the two years. He just ready, but cause he done been a prison before. So he know, and I'm like, but what if they come back with more and like, no, I just take the two years and go. That's the best you're going to get. The county time process was really fast because he always make somebody brought the kids up there. Got to have the time to go by. My kids always had like a real close relationship. Close relationship. Like if I'm sleeping in the call, they sleep in a call. If we homeless, they homeless. Like I was like y'all can go to San Antonio. No, we'll sleep outside with you. Cause when I came home, everything was good and everything just drop just drop because before I went, I never was in the streets in the club. Nothing. But when I came home, everything was different. So now I'm outside in the club in the street. So I spent a lot of money on. Why do you think being in jail changed you like that? Really going to jail. It really helped me because before I went to jail, I didn't know nothing. Like I didn't know how to do nothing. Like I learned everything while I was in there. Like when I came out, I knew everything I didn't know. Like I didn't know how to do nothing, but really change diapers and take her kids. That's it. But to give you time to think, right? I learned who God was. I read the Bible for the first time reading the Bible was when I was in jail, even though I went to church every Sunday from a kid, but I never had read the Bible. It's a big difference. Yeah. It's a real big difference. Real big difference. And the crazy thing is I used to pray and I never read the Bible. And so when I went to jail. Because you were doing what you were taught. Right. I met a mentor. Right. Who wasn't in jail. She just come to jail and talk to people. So I just bonded with her. And I became a priest. Oh, you was a priest in jail. So I started praying for people. They going to court. They getting out. Because I ain't getting out. So now I don't want to pray for them no more. Like, I'm telling God, I ain't praying for them no more. I ain't praying for nobody. You told me you were taking me home. I ain't went home. So one day I'm in, they always put me in a single cell because of the assault. So one day I'm mad at God. We battle back and forward. So I said, you tell me I'm going home. I ain't go home. I'm not praying for nobody. I don't want to have no relationship with you no more. It's over. So they, I'm wrecked in the cell. Yeah. So this is the first time I ever hear, I ever hear God's voice. And he's saying, he said, I never told you that. So from, from that point on. I go to court and I take the two years. He like, take the two years. Just take it. So I take the two years. Cause in this time, they never give me no bond. But the officers, they all love me. Like shout out to Ms. O at Turner County. All the officers, Ms. Birdo, they all just taking care of me cause they see that I'm, I'm everywhere in this situation. So I go to court and go to prison. So when I go to prison, it's a whole different world. Wow. In, in that prison. Yeah. It's different. So, but when I get out, me and the kids, I didn't see them for like a month. When I first came home and when I see them, we just file back in place. They like buying them shoes and clothes. But his ex-wife, her mama, they, they, they, they, they have a different type of living than, than what we doing. So they like, we'll keep them until you get situated. So that's what we doing then. Wally come. No, she hit me. She did this and that. Wally was turned up from the time when you first went to the time when she come back. She was turned up the whole time. So listen, I'm going to bring my kids down here. They ain't coming down all no more. So they like, okay, cool. So they bring the kids. So then Mr. Watson get out. So it's the same thing. They go, Wally, mama come get me. She hit me. I said, put your horn up on. I'm going to whip myself on my way down. So when did you realize that? Then I realized one day, this no lie. One day I'm going to file an organ with him and her because Wally telling me, you know, I'm going out and something, I ain't probably number a guy like, look, what are you over there? He's smiling from ear to ear. Oh, because he knows you're going home. No, he ain't got to go back. He's over there smiling from ear to ear. Like, yeah, he tapping his hand. Like, yeah. He's cheering you on. He's five. He's five. He's six. No, he's six at this time. He's six. So he over there in the corner and I just look and he telling Paco, yeah. We ain't got to go back. Yeah. You ain't turn around and whoop him after this? Nah, I just told him. At that moment I was like, listen, I apologize. You know, it's good when he hung up. So I was like, oh, didn't he like me? He cussing, baby. He like pops good, but I hate. You don't want to deal with nobody. You dealing with other women. Nah, it was just my ex-wife. Yeah, but see, let me show you something too. When Wally was down in school, man, I'm going to tell you this story. It was that bad though to where they had to school. You know, it's a lot of, you know, it's a lot of spending. How old was he at that time? He had to be, well, this is before he right before you got him. So he's probably about six. Five, maybe five, maybe five. Because once I came home, my ex-wife used an apartment. So I had old school, whatever I sell it, give me a bucket, I'll get the money, give us a house. So we moved to the east side of San Antonio. You know, it's rough. You know what I mean? It's rough. So they going to the school up the street, but it's a lot of spending though. They coming home, you know, every other day, they didn't have words to teach you. They said some, you know what I'm saying? So here, Wally and Paco, you had them kids, they bad, they racist, or they in games. And I'm like, you're an elementary, you know what I'm saying? And it's what they giving me though, you know? But, you know, a couple of times they had words and a couple of times, you know, Wally, he was quick to fight. He was quick to fight. So, you know, he was getting his little scuffle song. He got in trouble for a song he didn't, you know? Because they had a new kid. So they understood someone was being picked on. And then two, when you come from up here, this from the mental place, this environment down there, you're not going to come down there. Because, you know, it's slower at that time. It was a lot slower. So you're going to fit. Even as a kid, you know, like, y'all ain't on the same level. So y'all not going to go or nothing like this. He always been like that. So, of course, he got in a lot of trouble. So one day, at this time, he getting into it with his teacher. I don't know what he was having going on. I'm working at this warehouse at the time. This is the first time I've done that job. So I'm trying to keep it. And it's clear 30 minutes on the other side of town. So he get into it with the teacher. They call me Franny. This dude left the school. Yeah. Took out running down the school, down the street. They can't nobody catch him. Teacher, general, everybody run after. He go all the way down the street. But at the end of the street, it's a, the main road go this way and you keep street, I mean, keep on the side of the street where the house in school is, it's a cemetery at the end. The boy runs straight into the cemetery. But once he realized where he at, he turned around and he go to screaming. Now, cause he don't, he's, he, he thinking dead body, dead body. He don't want nobody to touch him. I had to come from working everything, man. Like, yeah. But you know, that's when your mama say, yo, you, you, you, you so damn bad. You scary though. You know what I'm saying? You so damn bad. Yeah. And that's, that was the cow he was. Boy, I tell you, man. And no stories. Let's, let's fast forward up to his teenage years. But before you say that, I want to know. So during all this time, did you ever knew that he might be in music? He never, he never, he, he never said nothing about music until he was like 13. Okay. Cause you know, some people start when they were young. So I was just trying to figure out when they didn't start. What did he say about music when he was 13? Okay. So the school called. And they like, um, you got to come get him. He, um, soliciting at the school. I'm like, what are you doing? He got a backpacks. You know, we get food stamps at this time. So we go to Sam's and get all the big bundles of everything. He got everything in his backpack. He's selling everything for $5. Chips for $5. Candy boys for $5. So they like, you got to come get him. He's mentally disturbed. But he got money on his mind. That's all it was. That's all it was. He got money on his mind. So I go get him. And he had a coach back then. Um, he was a Hispanic guy. And the coach, you could always call him. He'll come talk to him. So, um, I'm like, what he, um, they want you to turn to school. I ain't do nothing wrong. So he, he always want to order his situation. He ain't just going to take nothing. So I'm, I said, what, what happened? So it was one little boy. Like he sold me a bag of chips for $5. That I bought at the store for 75 cents. So what he like, you took that deal. I didn't tell you to take that deal. You took the deal. Right. And you read the pay. So I want my money. So what he took the money. So then when I'm talking to him after they kick him out for two days, I don't want to go to school anyway. I want to be a rapper. Oh, that's what he said. And I'm like, you don't even know how to rap. You play basketball and football. I only want to do that. My knees hurt because he always been tall. So I didn't understand that he really had a problem with his knees until he was like 17 years old. They call that growing pains. That's what they say. So I didn't know that. So he, he's, I want to be a rapper. I started writing, like I still got tablets where him and my older son David used to write and battle each other with these tablets. Like I still got the tablet and everything. Wow. But I never did take him seriously with no music because you play football and basketball. But he was a great athlete though. Right. From probably one, I'm doing like one of his coaches. When he was standing in San Antonio, two different times I met him for Wode to play over the weekend. At this time, he like five, six years old. Come play. But he played air position. So I met him halfway to take Wode on Saturday and then Sunday evening I meet him just for him to play. Yeah. So I can't imagine because when you said he took off running, I'd end up in the cemetery and no teacher could even catch him. No body. No body. I'm like, man, he fast. The whole story where Mr. Washington, y'all have, he was a jack rabbit. Like that's how Wode was. That's where he get it from. He'll call me and be like mom under the house or mom under the car in this neighborhood come give me but this one Mr. Washington and let him move back with me. Yeah. Because he always stayed with him because Wode was something else. That's why I said raising him it just wasn't me and him. It's me and him. Oh. He didn't mind. He like he, it was a lot. It wasn't just us. So it seemed like every time he get pissed off at somebody he want to go over here. Yeah. He get pissed off. He wanted to come with me. He never wanted to come with you. Because he, Mr. Washington is a dissapointer. Like he gonna, he gonna beat your ass. And Wode be like mama come give me. He don't, he about to kill me. So I'm like where you at? He like in a bathtub. Hey one day the man ran away. I thought he ran away. The man was in a bathtub for two days. He's in a bathtub for two days. And you couldn't find him. He in a bathtub for two days. Wow. I go in his bathroom checking everything. Of course I'm not gonna check my under them. Kurt I don't think he, you know, but he was gone for two days and the whole time he was there. And he didn't come out and eat or nothing. Snuck out. Well when he left to go to work. That's when he snuck out. Yeah. But I'm gonna follow him the whole time. He's smart. But he never want me to tell him. So he like in a bathtub and I'm like. So you knew exactly where he was. Yeah. Because I don't want him to be him. Like I don't have to fight him while he whooping him. I jumped on his neck and choked him. That boy mama boy. That baby boy syndrome. That's what that is. That's why he was where he was. Right. Let me ask you this. After 13 when he, he sent to the music. Did he stay in or he just let it go and start back in school? No. Once he went back to school. He destroyed. Well he went back to San Antonio. So he go back to San Antonio. So now he back with Mr. Walter. I think at ninth grade. Him and his little homeboy. Cause what he dance all the time. You know what I'm saying? Like I used to tell him. Hey look. I'm gonna beat your ass by all that dancing. You know what I'm saying? Cause I'm thinking some punk. I mean some good stuff. Like hey man. Don't do stuff all that dancing. You know what I'm saying? You know who are you still? And uh. So you know he. Him and one of his little buddies. I guess he had challenged him or whatever to start doing. So he played a lot. He had a real. He had a great personality. You know he played a lot all day long. So of course he go doing a rapid thing. He playing with it though. And you know he, but he rapping and he dancing. People got him on camera. And so you know he started getting, you know a little fame behind or whatever. And so he just, he just fed into it. Because it was easy for him. It was natural. So he fed into it. But then you know one time. It had got to a point where I'm, I ain't gonna lie man. I, I don't beat this boy so many different ways. I can't think of them away. So I sit him down. And I'm like, Hey man, just, just. Tell me what I should do. You know what I mean? Because at the time I'm divorced now. And it's just me and him. He's still. So I'm, I'm, you know, it's me and you man. Man, man, we're going to, you know, grow many young men. But we're going to, it's me. You're going to make it work. And I worked a lot. You know, cause I'm trying to provide. Trying to. And what did he say to you? He told me that. I asked somebody getting in trouble. Like how can you stop? Like what is it going to take you to stop? And he was, I'm like, man, you know, do you want to go to penitentiary like me and your mama? And he was looked at me dead in my eyes. He was like, y'all turn to the heart. But you know, the bad thing about it, a lot of kids would say the same thing right now. Right. But like I told him, when he go instead of him saying his name, like, mom, call them people. Come give me. Like he never want to be there. No, of course. That's everybody. He never want to be there. No matter what the situation was, he want to get out that day. So when, when he first started getting in trouble, I like listening, you got to put money aside for your wardrobe and your bond. Yeah. So you want to keep doing this. You have to have, you have to have that bond fee. So then I go get him a lawyer. So he keep a retina fee with him. Because I'm not going to keep spending my money for something you continue to choose to do. Mr. Wallace is like, fuck that, leave him in there. I know what it says. He needs to learn. I know exactly. But that's the thing though too though, because, you know, because being in the streets, I always tell him, what are you doing with what you do? First thing you do, which I was told the first thing you put up is bond money. You don't go buy no clothes, you put up your bond money first. Because it's the same thing that's going to happen. So, you know, that's what he understood. And then as he, of course again, as he got all he got his money up, you know, and I got told him, my mama didn't ever buy me out. My older cousin billed me out the first time I got out and I had to pay her back. Yeah. And then nobody ever billed me out, you know, and I told him, this is what you're going to be doing. Of course it took me a while because he actually told me like pops, I'm not, I'm not working for nobody. He told me at 15 he was going to be a rapper. And I told him, now you're going to get a job, you're going to do this, you're going to do that. I'm going to rap. Yeah. But I, you know, I'm not trying to hear that man. You know, because everybody at the time, every all the kids want to be rappers. I'm not, we're not doing it. We're going to get a job, you know what I mean? Get you some type of extended education if not no degree. When did, when did you start taking him serious about he was going to rap? Never. Even until he, yeah. Honestly. Because he got him a job in like peace of hood. He was going to be rapping because when I made him, it was about rap. Honestly, it wasn't even that the fact that he was going to stay rapping. It was the fact that he ain't never working for nobody. You know, he no job. And he been told me that, you know, and I'm like, and I mean, I ain't exaggerate when I tell you how to beat this boy every which way. And I, I wanted, I didn't want him to go to penitentiary. You know what I mean? Because I know this is where you going. And I tried my best, you know, to keep him from it. To keep him out. But that's the one thing he always was. He was honest. You know, if he did it, he going to say he did it. You know what I mean? I ain't going to say he ain't going to try to get away with it, but he going to say he did it. So as, as he got older and he started doing things, I just, I respected his word, you know, and I didn't, I didn't ever like it, you know, but I got older cuss, he more like older brother. And he always would tell me, man, as you, as you all over again, we can tell you nothing. You could, you could nobody tell you nothing the same way. You know what I'm saying? He just, just be thankful that the fact that he honest with you and he tell you. And that's just how it was. We're going to pull up to the time when he had gotten shot at where I seen the video where he did an interview afterwards and we talked about that here on the show. And that video too. He did an interview, music video. I just want to talk about how that ended up, how did that come across to you guys? You know what I mean? When it happened, that was a time where basically, I know I seen it because it was on, that's why I've never seen it in Dallas Global. And you too? What, how did you find out about that? And then he told me a little bit about it. About the shooting? Yeah. The first time. The first time. I think my, my son, my, my daughter had called me and she said, that, I mean, my goddaughter called me and said that he had got shot. So instantly, I'm going crazy. So I get, but I get to the first hospital and they like, he not here. So we go to the second hospital. But in the meantime, nobody is seeing nothing. So we don't know nothing. So when we get to the second hospital and they like, oh, he was just grazed. You know, he'll be released in, you know, a couple of minutes or whatever. So then when they bring him out, me and his other baby mama, fianceing, we in the room with him. So as we talking to him, he just, you know, people. So the nurse come in, they pull him out, pull him back. So they come back and like, oh, you know, he did have an entry into the head. So then they bring him out again. So as me and Elias, then they're talking to him. He again. So they rush him back and like, oh yeah, he was entry. He had an entry four times. So we're going to keep him. But he knew the whole time, but he had made it there. But the neglect, we talked about the negligence of the hospital when he was on here, how crazy it was for him during those times too. But you got to understand, it was a whole circus up there. You did, you know what I'm saying? Her brother going crazy. My sister going crazy. You know what I mean? It's all these other kids. It's a lot. So you got to understand what the hospital makes out. But his sister and my brother, they crazy anyway. Right, period. So it don't take much for them. So they going out. I'm hearing, because steady people, steady economy, I can hear everything going on so of course, at some point, the hospital, the nursing staff, it's like this is too much. You see what I'm saying? They trying to hurry up and get him out of there. Yeah, but I feel like Cedar Hill police played a big part in it. So when the initial nurse come out, she like, well, we just went out for what Cedar Hill police said, but now we going to take him upstairs. So when they take him upstairs, What did they tell them? I don't, we never know, because Wote was such a fast person, he never want to sit down and take care of that part of the business. So I couldn't do it because he is an adult. Right. So every time the lawyer wanted to speak with him about the situation, you had to step out. Yeah, he was always not available. So the lawsuit and stuff never came about. So only way you can get those records is if it's requested by either the adult, the victim or either the attorney. Okay. But, you know, he never just got into that situation. I don't know if it's because he didn't want to go through everything that happened in the situation or he just chose not to, he just didn't want to. Yeah, he still was, when he spoke about it, he was real. I don't know, I was like, God give you a second chance, man, you know, and we had those conversations on here, but it's just like at the end of the day, he still would just still fizz over and just still just like that. He was in that hospital for two, for two months. Every day we go up there, we get into it with him because he just, at first I'm thinking he on medication or something because he just going out. It's like everything he wanted to ever say to us, he said, he was said in this. That time. Yeah, so I stopped going to the hospital, but Blake, there with him every day, like him, Blake, they just, there, they just sticking it out. I'm talking about, what are you cussing out of Blake? He cussing out me, he cussing out everybody. He put everybody out the room. Then one day, he just saying, you know, I've been hurting since I've been hurt. I never not feel no pain. So my aiming, I'm like, what are you tripping? Because the nurse, the nurse on the night shield, she come there to see him. And so she like, no, he's telling the truth. The nurses just don't look after him like they should because the, they going by the police, the city police is telling him not to do certain things. So I didn't know they can do that. You have a medical obligation to do your job. So the nurse, the, the next day they come in and and put a tube in his chest, which punctured both of his lungs. Wow. So for a whole 30 days, he don't have no lungs. He just breathing out this machine. But we don't know this because they're not telling the pain, they're just telling him. So the, the last day he there, my auntie go up there. That's a good lawsuit right there. Yeah, my auntie go up there and see him and he tell my auntie, I can't breathe. I need to get out of here. So my auntie, like him, he can't take the breathing machine. He can't take the tube, nothing. So she like would take it off. So Blake, carry this boy down three, down, four flights of stereo. What he's six, three. Blake like five, two, five, three. Blake carry him down four flights of stereo to the call and they rush him to Parkland. When he gets to Parkland they automatically put him in, put him in surgery. They like, they get to Parkland in four minutes. Right. So they get to Parkland in four minutes. Soon as he get in, the surgeon come out and like, if y'all would have got here a half a second later you would have lost him. So he was in Parkland, they have surgery, they take him up stereo. So he and her like for another month in the head. But Blake stood there with him. He stick it out. I'm talking about he cussing everybody out. So how long did he stay in after he was in surgery? Like a month and a day. If they tell you he doesn't know you anymore, what are y'all thinking shill. The thing with himitt a lot of times you couldn't tell him nothing. He not even looking at the picture blow this is money. This is like I serious. That whole situation really didn't even have that whole situation really didn't have nothing to do with him. Like when he got go, I got And he like, no, I don't want him staying here because he do that and there's too much traffic. I don't I don't want that over here. So I'm like, well, I got the apartment. He coming so he moved in So what he called me and he like he playing a game against somebody some guy from Orleson And he like first he takes and say I don't feel comfortable So then I'm like, well, go go live, you know, if y'all playing the game go live Well, I think it was on Instagram or something. And so so it's him But the boy had brought another dude. So then he like, I don't know neither one to do but he texted me this So I'm like, oh, I'm like, do you got a gun? Do you do do y'all got a gun there? He like, let me go look so he come back and then he takes and say yeah So while he's still doing the thing my other son come So when he come they in the room in the room So he he liked telling, you know what again my gun give my gun because he see what he got his son So he give it to him So after that whole situation then he like, um, he's still talking to me on the on the text so then he like Such and such bitch has done to the gun. He in the room with the dude to do as for I don't know what it is Kyle, but it was asked for something But it must have been some smile because he like he don't sell him there He won't even sell it to me. So then he like He he like me and I think he he done pulled all this down in front of the dude, but they in another room So then I get so the phone hang up But after the fact he tell me that my the other son run downstairs to get something to do come back up And that's when the dude got the gun on Wanting and he like what like I can give you nothing You do whatever you do you not taking nothing from me. I'm not giving you nothing whatever gonna happen on happen So he robbed the other son So after he robbed the other son take everything or whatever, but he go on Instagram and say I ride won't he too loud? They just take everything to a different level Mad about that Got it shot end up shooting. Yeah, so he mad cuz they do like he robbed him Right. He like now he too none for me. So I'm like this Repetition that's what he's always want to protect his name. So I'm like just let it go. It don't matter You know, you know, he like no need to none for me. Nothing. So it seemed like a club or something Or what do you seem at the team? He's seeing him somewhere Okay, so so the dude I think that the mutual friend knew him in his brother and he brought the other dude over So when everything happened after they happened what he get back here He tried to get his lick back at the other dude. So he ended up taking dude phone and stuff That's how he got shot Because instead of him getting rid of the phone he had the phone. So of course the location, right? So I guess some way somebody tell buddy The gunman where they was at they over in front of Bodie partner house they used to sit on side of the street blowing or whatever and His partner that was in the back seat He's seen the car go down the street car go down the street. What's the you come back? What he told me then when do pull back up? He said do look at him out of our You know me and he just starts shooting So he got graze in the front come right come right here. I'm right there He had them side and then I guess when he was trying to get away from it He got shot on the shoulder behind the shoulder blade Whatever and it lies right here. So they left out when they need to go. Yeah. Yeah, so But I used to tell him about that all time, you know, because he was tall for his age and he out You know, they boxed and everything so they was good. So he he you know, he would kiss his age and he woke you though I'm you know, it was older older brothers and uncles or whatever. So and I told him So he told me plenty story Yeah, the thing was so like I told him in one or two things, you know scary cat a kid you and Everybody ain't scared of you. Yeah. So that was that situation when he got shot Like I told him that day when I walked in the hospital we talking I told him I said, I told you man Everybody not scared of you like they do look at you out of eye and shoot you in your face, but he never would tell us Who the dude is never said never was saying no name of a tunnel but when I moved out the house and The lady pecking the stuff for me and you know, the movers and they find these two driver license in the top of the Cabinet like they been there this whole time and I'm like so he knew exactly who it is Right, but he never never told us never tell the police nothing. He's just like he don't know who did he on Oh, no, so but though I find them in the top of the cabinet when the the movers You know packing up the place did you think after he got shot that first time that he would have slowed down Oh, you knew it wasn't gonna be no turning down because he wouldn't listen to us Like he's like the only way to slow down even like even with his friends like I'm steady telling him every day Like we can all say what we gonna do deal before some happen We gonna do this and that but at that time, you don't know how your body in your mind and your nerve don't act react to this situation You don't see and so when it it happened you can say you're gonna do this But you don't know how you your body gonna react so we steady talking about this So then he like my you know, I listen to what you said and I feel you know I understand it like cuz I feel like that's what happened at the apartment When the situation first came a hand, you like, you know, I didn't know it up But my body reacted to this what I'm gonna do So then when he was when he was able to let all the Everybody else go in here. Yo, his ear. I'm like, you know, these people No, nobody can't tell you about this person every person. You know people, you know yourself Exactly. So then when he listens to that and he like yo, you right, you know, I said back on the student He always think when he go to church one day I went to church and I get it Yes, it is when cuz cuz that's one at a time, but then Blake gets shot as well He ends up getting shot and it wasn't for and we talked about that on here. What? Did you think that would have impact or how did it impact him? They still he still was ready to do something like he didn't like every time I tell him something like He never thought to himself like I mean, he never sent us to us when I'd be like, oh, I'm finna move cuz y'all doing this isn't a like me them niggas some hoes ain't doing all that they only doing that because They this and that like he never thought in his head like I'm but my thing is a person come to y'all Back in the day my brother family I'll leave them date in the street. Nobody. No, I don't like you have a crazy family Nobody never came to Came to our house to do nothing like they scared to walk past the street So when people come to my house bringing trouble, I'm like, no They just in there. He like me niggas some hoes. You ain't y'all know mama chill. You just Talking as y'all we think I'm just talking but me and my mentor I'm like a bullet hole the bullets don't have no names on me. I never held a gun in my life I'm scared of going but him He didn't he just feel like you good ain't some like what they came and shot the house up after they shot late They come in shoot. They can't they come and shot your house up after Wait a minute. I thought I thought when Blake I shot it really wasn't for him, but evidently. It was They never tell my son and I told what it to lie that day I said look nigga you are you lit on that no nigga come on my show It's been three years and you've been shot within three years, but they don't snuck you on this show You remember I told him and so he was laughing because I was like I got a limit You know I'm saying if you've been shot and you and Blake been shot So y'all really I don't put the hell y'all near but it family So you ain't you ain't gonna go by them rules and I'm glad I didn't cuz I got to sit with him But at the end of the day, that's something that I have been saying like if you've been shot in three Within three years you can't come back The only thing changed with him was when he told he told me when he was in the hospital You know we kind of saw it and we got serious and he told me pops I ain't gonna lie this just had to happen. He was like the only only way I was gonna stop Jacking and taking stuff from people or something like that. He was like men in bullet is hot Yeah, I don't want to get popped no more. You know, he's like but you know, uh, I'm gonna try to get myself, right and But he was like I ain't taking a nil cuz I don't want to get popped like that number. So it's cool So I got that so but that's when he he went fast for you know Overload overdrive on on the jug and doing this yeah Yeah moves, you know, so that's when he just took off with that cuz he full throttle, but see what after that happened Was that not over before he got shot right for a guy shot. He had he got on paper Okay for Robin he come down now and he was staying with me So I'm trying to help him get right But I know my son. I know he's no he came down there after he got after he got to hospital No, it was no no it was before he got shot when he came big Yeah, so that's what I that's the thing though So he was down with me got him a little job a little season. He probably last two weeks, you know So he called he's saying pops got me this job in this season and talking about my chick 25 And pops tell me I got you in there I pull a string. That's my partner Listen promise the guys still got that chick right now He like pops call me time at you quit he like yeah Like Came now you got a light bill to pay you you can't come in my house and say not pay no bill I got you this job under my partner name what he like mother check So it was a situation what happened where he uh, I'm leaving for work, you know, I own a barbershop down So I'm leaving early. I gotta work early. So I see a young dude sitting on the corner for a corner from down my house See lady. I'll be back her crazy. I said, that's what he pardoned and my neighborhood you stick out like a soul Yeah, you ain't none of that over here. So I tell him and I already told y'all what your partners over here Don't want to know why stay no like that. You know, I got a house full of women. It's only me I'm I gotta protect was mine, but you know, I mean, I do have my history So he's like, man, I don't know how he yeah He you know how he said he know we stay because you're obviously gonna drop job or something You know to stay down the street but not come to the house. So you done laced him so anyway We got a tour about that. So he come back home pops. Let me go back home and do this do that I didn't tell him appeal. I think he said that show some he come up here But he actually come up here. He do the show he get a car. I tell him to wait he get a car anyway He tried to leave with the car. He ain't check the car out the car mess up So he don't get to leave. That's that Sunday. He's supposed to be back that Sunday I told me he ain't back her Sunday man You can come get your and get up out of here cuz you ain't trying to do the right thing So the car miss a car blow it actually blow it catch fire So the car miss up whatever the case happen he up. I say, all right, it's all good Whatever do you got to do get your money back cuz I knew the dude who did who sold the car get your money back Whatever, I said when you get your money back come back down and get your stuff Because you really man you at the point I could see it. He had the point where he grown You know, I mean like he don't he don't want to listen nobody else moves You know me and you hustling but he really was at that time because he the instead of him worrying about the car and the money He said it's time about me. I gotta give a pops gonna do this and that you know, but I'm I'm working So I'm like I can't take you big but his whole time. He's just worried about you know pops. Yeah Yeah, so then I try to call him and he like that he ain't come get his clothes. I'm like you How you Man, you know when you're father man You can't make this stuff up the one that do give you those issues are just like you I got some of them You know, it's hard to communicate with him cuz you're too much of life, you know He just like him when I go when I went to his apartment Like this apartment he had over here He proud is apartment because it's only probably yet like by his stuff that he got. Yeah, but everything like I don't know How miss what's a little number when we young he always had like shoebox with money like and Rody like he ain't put nothing no bank. He don't fuck them up. So bad. He don't trust nothing So he got a young father Teaching them how to put back and say Late on He doesn't know that so he got shoeboxes full of money full of money like everywhere got money in the cat every time like he Gotta see it. He gotta smell it. It can't be nowhere. I'll figure out a beat in his presence And I'm like, hey, this boy just like So like when when you cuz that was when he did the pizza thing he came back and then he went through all the other Two weeks later, yeah, how long was it why then we gonna go we gonna move forward, you know Because like I said, I want to hold y'all all day But I definitely want to talk about the fact of the guy that was here with him that That day he had told me about interviewing him and I was like, no, I really was just focused on what I told you I'm real like y'all here today. That's all I'm doing. I ain't doing nothing else. That's what I'm doing So that's the kind of way it was that day. It was like I'm only doing you Don't care nothing about it and they all everybody here would you know, he kept people with me Can it be they all do that? But I knew what I was doing and I was focusing on the artist that I had picked but For y'all that was a stigma for me like even that video was like man Everybody's still going looking at that video trying to see who it was and what had happened, you know But what did y'all hear when y'all first heard that that they had gotten into it? I was up that morning matter of fact nini called me before you was driving up actually but It was early Really, I'm gonna say some I never met this boy. I don't know him But I don't I don't talk, you know When I come down here, I stay at the wordy house So I don't see him talking to him seeing him have a conversation with him You know, I don't see him make money together, but all the rest of them like Mario I can say, you know, I knew I might I never met they they family personally But I I know them but him I can't tell you nothing about him I don't know him him or the other boy. I don't I don't know them But I know that that he dealt with them But any body friends people be around him They know the type of person he is when he but that's Your friend, you know, if we get into it we friends we gonna get into it, but at the end of the day That's what that's what me and told me that I don't think it's one friend that I'm not gonna say friends because they like a family So I don't think it's not one of them that ain't fault each other. They fight all the time Me I go crazy. Oh, I've been you know, I'm you know, but they don't they like my you tripping You need to chill out you doing too much. But this they what he is like has a hoard You know his whole hits it what he wants he put his mind to something and he believes him That's just what it is. How did you see it? so well one of his partners which is his old man, man, he was childhood friends or whatever and He explained the situation and he told me I everything transpired and at the end of the day It was you know, like I raised him under the old law like, you know, you and your partner y'all can get into it You know me especially when y'all that close y'all might get into y'all might scrap whatever depths and hoods afterwards Right, but like I also try to tell my always talking about running with so many people because I don't always know all them You know and then to I was told like everybody ain't cunt like you You know me and then when you know when the rubber meets the road, you're gonna see something different So at that time him and buddy had this agreement I heard they had kind of touched each other up like you know got physical but not like you know punch or whatever So all you said he wanted to look at you know, we're gonna go and take care of this Then we're gonna go on about our night, you know, and and again sometimes I Be messed up about it because I feel like That's something like I always explain to him because that's how we was you know I mean like growing up with her family. I don't fall to three of them. You know me Yeah, but if we we go so you ain't finna mess with them. You know I'm saying so that's how we was and and I feel Like by telling him that he felt like because him The young man who's told me about the situation Blake, they done all done had fights Yeah, they still right back together. Yeah, but here it is. Do you know man? He I don't know his background like that, but from what I've seen and read he he come from a different car He ain't really what these keys is you know me correct, so When you felt like he was like everybody else and you can apply the pressure on him like everybody else y'all take her Y'all been this y'all back cool. He really wasn't with that. Yeah, I mean He built like that the little guy What was legit or whatever the one the other little guy that was both for the y'all? Yeah, I just don't know what I just don't know what it is about them two right there I never had no Condition with them, but just like I say what he was tell me, you know my you tripping but as a parent You know when people come around I Could cut can't have I could cut stem other kids that every day get out of my house Don't come back over here. They'll be right back the next day I'm talking about in seconds. They back here like that. They in the garage. They sleeping in the car in the driveway They in the room. They don't care if I've got cussed them out Them two right there. It never was the same like that with them But they've been around longer the other the other kids been around forever But that's what I'm saying He went but I think that he knew not to bring them around me right because I could I would have told him even After the situation The other dude like out his other all his other His two-fold people I call it. That's it. That's they a family family So what they they don't call me and say can we come or can we do this show they just came right? It's other fool Talking about um, I'm not welcome. Who told you that? Yeah, so the instantly that let you know Something yeah, because nobody never said matter of fact, we didn't even know you to say you couldn't come So for you to say that it's because you feel getting in some type of area for you to say that because nobody never said Then it you got people out. Oh, you know, send a condolences. You ain't never contacted me on him You ain't never sent us no message. You ain't never said nothing. I'm talking about period But then the first time you go do an interview you want to talk about oh We were friends like these so how to what you mean? Yeah, well, I actually got I seen it but I got an interview that I had done with him I'm gonna be real with you and he started he was crying on here and all kind of and I never we hadn't put it out I never put it out I just basically because I I didn't know how you felt about it or you felt about it. I'm being real You know what I'm saying like so When it happened it happens so you know fast and everybody was I even had Barri on all of them back over here at the same time I was just letting people come back because I was trying to understand what was going on with these kids because Being sitting over here, you know God put you in a life for a reason especially when you're older cat You know, I'm like what could I have done? You know, I told you that so I was like what could I have done to say this or say that because you start Change, you know, and you can't you can't really predict what happens with anybody Your kids of my kids when they leave your site when they're at these different places that ground But at the end of the day, I understand where you coming from, you know If I didn't I would have been trying to do it for views and all that but that wasn't me You know what I mean? I'm just I'm just trying to figure it out and I want to make sure I stay connected to the right people That was connected to water now coming from my side of it. You know what I mean So that's the whole game like you guys are special to me special to this show Like that was that that was special. I don't know. I don't trust neither one of them Yeah, because it's nothing that can happen to somebody close to me and I'm not gonna reach out to their family correct Why wouldn't I if this my partner? I let that feel guilty. I'm not finna stand back in the background I'm gonna reach out even if I fit. I'm still going. Yeah. Yeah It's nothing that happened to my friend right now and I'm going. Oh, nobody called me. They didn't know I'm gonna be right there How do you feel? What do you think? Just as far as about what she says you the same you on the same wavelength for us You feel like basically they should have read that he should have left out You did some he got you all his friends is still his childhood friends If you in the situation, you know, and you know purposely it wasn't nothing behind it Shit transpired too quick. I got happy fast You're gonna be remorseful. You know I'm saying you gonna come hey look, but this the thing though, too Again, you know, I mean they young and we can say they keys at the end of that. They mean, you know, right? but They these are two different kind of men because I know like what he he didn't do You know I'm saying but I also know he can say when he wrong You know me he may not want to and it may take him a time to do it But he can come tell you that he wrong or he remorseful or he's sorry about something I missed up on my bad. He may not go into a whole spiel, but he'll say my bad So even if the dude would it came and be like, hey look man, this happened. This is my partner I'm sorry. This happened. I just such a search and I thought this or this it could have been anything, right? But if you show no sign, I mean you ain't have to come you could have found a way You know I'm saying you could you don't say or at least got a number some so hey look man This is such and such such I didn't want to come around, but I want to tell you that you know You know And then when he do make the post it's still a it's still a Dab because you still trying to put him down. Oh, we did this. I don't want his girl to see this Like use it's still a jab. You know I'm saying it ain't it ain't no no genuine or you never see that He's about we did this on the back in his girl No, you still came with your pose the rest of them can say oh, yeah But the post there was a jab at him it wasn't no genuine post of you still trying to put him down With the girl, you know, I'm saying cuz then you tag the girl in it and like oh, I don't mean no this and that Yeah, you meant that that's why you said it at that point I mean the man was just trying to he knew the situation. He's seen what was going on You know, of course he gained something a name behind it So he was just feeding to it though But you know when you have him catch this they want to be something they'll do that they'll take it I mean at the moment anyway, you know, you know, it's wrong for the wrong reasons, but your name hot or whatever So now you're gonna capitalize on situation like he was really dead, you know me Yeah, no, it definitely man. Like I said you guys I don't know how it is to lose a child cuz I never lost one But I know already it was it was tough I remember coming to the funeral and basically just hearing you speak, you know, don't you know I was like man, you know He's strong and that that made me feel a certain way about the people because you were really talking to the people that was on that Front row talking to the boys the boys the ones that have been around really giving them Re-encouragement and you know and people don't understand But it's a way that you have to talk as a man to the kids and to the to the men or whatever Who are in that circle cuz you know already how much it affects y'all, you know, I mean, right You don't been through stuff. You older than them. So I get it But I mean a girl that was a song there. She she came on here, too. Jada Jada. Yeah, she's been on here She did a great job to and y'all did a good job You know during the COVID and all that to be able to put that together like that It had to be tough, you know what I mean, and just man kudos to y'all, man I said, I don't know. I ain't much you could say, you know to make no dear I don't know what it is to lose a child. I mean, I know you guys have to be strong You know what I mean? It was like some some some of the stuff like the services I didn't remember anything But I watched it on the you know, they give you a I watched it Yeah, but I don't know it really is hard some stuff that I try to because before The whole week before the end, you know, what he would he call first He would mail me like his social his driver's license He mailed me like all this stuff in the mail and so then when he I was like, why you send me your stuff? He's like, man, you know, I try to you know with my name This and I'm like, okay, so I put it up. I still got in my purse right now So then he called back like on Wednesday. He like mom I'm baptized and I'm like, yeah, he like do I need to get baptized again? I need to be sprinkled again he like And I'm like now you good and then so Thursday so that's when you know, that's Tuesday So Thursday he called and he like me and if I ever died don't put me in the ground He like me and I just watched a video from Fort Worth and dude was Pissing on people graves and don't put me in no ground. I'm like, okay. I got you But then think about it like that time because his character is so big like you he always put laughter into Into a serious situation. So you never really take him serious about a lot of stuff unless it's about money He only serious about money. They see everything else. He'd be like But what do you think like for is I mean cuz cuz you've had a bunch of I mean artists You know a lot of artists you seen it, you know, you see all this is rappers for some reason They seem like a stigma because the internet sucked it in soon as it happened I get it on on here I was on my computer by 3 34 in the morning when this stuff start happening first thing I do is I see our RIP on my It came to my time line on my views for what it that like real time It may have been I may be wrong on my time I know I call Nene right after that and my son, you know, I'm like, man It's real or whatever, you know, cuz I couldn't understand social media is so fast I'm fasted and you can hear on social media before you will find out you said that's why a lot of parents sometimes people We find our social media before they actually even get a call. You know what I mean? I'm gonna tell you when we like Before I got the house in in the city We in the country. So when I get out there my phone I lose service. Yeah, so What he had called me like probably about a little McLeod and he like my such-and-such a bitch He knows how my brother and I'm like this cheer, you know, y'all, you know, just get you a lift But after that like two three hours later my fiance phone just ringing constantly and I'm like don't answer it It's like something just Can cuz we sleep But I wake up like five minutes for these cows and I'm just sitting up And I'm just looking at the ceiling and I'm like, hey So then the phone just ringing constantly constantly. So when he wake up, I'm like, don't answer that phone And he like no, he's such-and-such. I'm like, don't answer that phone But I don't know what it was. It was just something I just don't I can't even explain the feeling But then when he he still never answer the phone. So I'm like, don't answer that phone So I tell Cody, I'm like, you know, let's go We're gonna go down there, but I ain't talked to nobody yet, but I can just feel it like it is yeah Because with the phone call coming back to back like that, you know, so I know the answer to like get our other house is like an hour and a half from the country So when I get to the house, we just pack up our stuff in and store it driving. So at this time when people calling me They just like, you know, you know, it's trying to I really don't even know what they were seeing because I'm so I don't even know how I made her Because I can't remember the driver nothing like it is I knew but in my heart it is just like I Knew that he was gone. I didn't want to accept it. You know I'm saying so then everything is just like your whole Like a whole somebody just snatched your heart at your chest and just you know Cuz I got other kids and we all cool, but me and in Wadi. We like we get into it We order we fight we do everything together like is I'm talking about So when I left his house that day the last time we left because we go every week, but that week we did not go So and then he can be like man, you just drive move to Arkansas. Y'all shouldn't have did that So that's what make me feel guilty Because like he telling me, you know not to leave but my guilty part of the situation I just feel like if I would have been her When he calling and when he's saying he ready to go and ain't nobody trying to take him if he would have called me He know I was coming but if I would have been her he called me. I'm downtown I don't even go downtown. I think I went to Mario coming downtown like I hate coming down her This is the worst thing over this traffic is bad. I hate it But if he would have called me he know my come give me I'm coming down there So that's a lot of guilt that I feel in my heart like down you shouldn't have left if you would have been there It's like right now. I'm ready to move from Arkansas Because I feel like if I wouldn't have been there in my my fiance like no, it's not like that You know, you already got a day in the time. Yeah, but I understand where you coming from to that that you felt away Cuz I is I've been through situations not that in depth But where I feel like if I did this this might not what happened I think we all do that from time to time You may even had had time where you think man if I did this I did that but like like your family do say though You know certain things are already written. I believe Predestined to be honest with you, but at any rate, where were you at tonight when you found out was it kind of you was in San Antonio Yeah, so just so happen One of my other big mom's okay Oh, it's the same dude one that she was talking about that was that the first time me him real close So and him and what they do music together say real close, you know, they real close So he hit me and he's like man, I just heard you know He caught me waking up. I'm asleep. I'm like, ain't nobody called me, but he the first one I'm gonna call me didn't pull my other son. I owe the son. He called me. He like pops, you know I'm like, what's up? He was like me or the in shot. I'm like, yeah, what's the name just told me and he was like His ain't he was on the phone. He's like what she calling me back. Let me I'm gonna call you back I'm like, all right So, of course, I'm putting my clothes on and get up and come down. I mean, we don't get through the drill You know, I understand but he lived his life to know he played like that. So it is, you know, it's bound to happen. So I'm like, I had put my clothes on he called back pops. I'm like, yeah, he like he make it Of course. I'm still put my clothes on I'm like, yeah, you show and he was like, I just you know, they was on the phone to doctors He was right there with the doctor. He said he make it I'm like, all right, I'm all the way down ironically my brother called me like, bro, oh Anybody call you. I'm like, yeah, my phone's hot right now. He was like, you know, how if you Say, yeah, he got shot again. He was like, how are you doing? I was like, he make it I remember this if I mean stuff vividly. I'm in my clouds to put my clothes on. I ain't walking wipe up With nothing. I'm just gonna go And then he my brother, you know, he go to talking bad, you know, Nick, what do you mean? He make it nigga. Like I said, he didn't make it, you know, but in my mind, I'm still not processing it You know what I mean? I ain't processing that at all. But I Know it's the truth because my son and Colin told you yeah, so again I get on the highway and I'm going I get to the hospital and My older cousin Huffy I say there Couple of cousins some orders to folks there. I walk in and talk to him talk to the nurse and he tell me Like now he gone and I'm like he gone. I'm like, damn. Can I see him? And uh, they were like, no, you know, they already came and got it. So damn. I'm like Start hitting at that point. Yeah. So I'm like, damn, like just this real real. Yeah, it's real. So I'm holding you know, yeah, I'm thinking about her because we don't talk to couple times I don't know if she's still on the way, right? Yeah So she gets up probably about 30 45 minutes late and she walk in We're here. Let me see my son. We're you know, she just Hope her cuz she got a personnel like that too. So she just walk in and I'm like it really missed with me because I'm like, damn Like she don't even believe yeah, you know, I'm saying like cuz She had no emotion like he was gone and I didn't told her that he was gone So she wasn't she had but and Nini told me that too. I don't know if y'all know it But that's she was like she ain't gonna be able to deal with not till you see When what he passed or what he like that fuck with me like even though I know that you know, it's real But just having a conversation and hear people say oh and what he died or like they're right there It's still fuck with me because it just don't it don't even sound right together. You know, I'm saying so it's still like even when I talked to his his Brothers and friends and stuff and they sometimes I don't even answer for them because sometimes they talking to them and Seeing them and innate they big life and everything and you don't see him like all of that just does something You know, it's some I know it's parents that have groups where they come together that have lost children I don't even go to I went to one group. You did It's still just don't It don't connect with me because I still I think me mentally. I still want to believe that he's still here Yeah, so going to them groups. That's when you done accepted. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you're still dealing with yeah And I don't think it goes away. It takes time. It takes a long time, but I've all I just want to say I commend you for coming on here and talking about it because the thing is that I've met so many people who have lost kids whether it's a gun violence to sudden death and it's hard for them to overcome it's hard to talk about it and They have dealt with it for years, but by hearing your story. It can help somebody else You know what I mean? That's why I tell people you go through things for different reasons It's not really for yourself It's to help somebody else because that other person somebody might end up committing suicide And because they hear this it might help them to hold on because they have other kids who are depending on them But people don't think about that at that time when you're going through situations Just like he said when you were in prison you wasn't really thinking about those kids because you know that they they good But them kids loved you you understand It would have affected them if you had done what you were thinking about doing You know what I mean and still today was grown when they always be when they used to me talking I was like y'all was good y'all they like nobody wouldn't like y'all wasn't here right in my head You know y'all was good like I fuck with these people they had y'all You know y'all but they probably have yeah, but they like it wasn't y'all right It wasn't yeah, so but me I'm like you know like no, but it wasn't you know Just like you said that connection that you have with him But it really is hard like even with the the whole situation. It's hard because you think about it like I tell people This when it come to This we with him and this boy in all the situation and then what stuff happened I always jump on everything and but I can hear him saying much you know I could hear his his voice Yeah, cuz I go off She's not What it was a part of And then but people don't realize that when it's a close person that did this Then when you when somebody else that was in that circle say some and they be like no mama They love whoa you cannot understand that as a parent cuz of the next motherfucker that suppose I loved him It's the one that took him out. Yeah, so when it's another person that in this No, I don't do that. They fuck with him in a parents in a parent head and mind and body and so when it's Another person in the same instance that took him out. You don't look at it like oh when you see some Oh, yeah, they fuck with him that no you don't exclude none of them because the ones that I know They don't want to hear right you understand the rest of them you can't comment like my I'll take that down There's such such that I don't care about that. Yeah, cuz anybody we tell we always talk about it a lot and it's just in The reason why it's just to warn people watch your environment watch the people around you because you might think that you Your partner's cool, but you have to re-evaluate the people that are around you You know what I mean because nobody would have guessed that that would have happened, right? But you you had a feeling it was some right because you never connected with that I never could yeah, I never could like the last day we was over there They was doing some had to do with some some kind of business So when the check on the check like 7,500 Some like I mean 75 your hundred so they split it so me He like no, how we do this and that isn't that he put me on to this tonight So that's how I know that he did you know fuck with him But me personally I never Been in the same place with this person, but I can say that he fucked with him because Yeah, he told me himself like even with a lot of stuff that was going on He like he gonna do this and it but at that time, I'm thinking they all cool with him I'm thinking they all know all of them. Yeah, when they all boy down to it They like nah, we didn't fuck with him, but and that's the one thing I heard afterwards that He didn't they didn't do anything to him about that or That's what I know they did they didn't but so this is a thing So that's why I'm a clear this this thing up when it come to the people that was there So instantly I'm a parent that's on this every day. I'm at the Dallas office. Yeah, I'm at the records office I'm at the detective office. I'm the DA office. I'm there every day. I'm driving down here I'm smoking wake up at my sleep and I just feel some I'm coming down here So I'm making them show me all the audio all the video. I'm making them show me everything so then it I'll boy down to When he when when he get the nobile It's because the witnesses on that's there. They never come forward because the video It don't have audio So they need the witnesses to say what happened what really happened before this happened So the only witness they have is the driver You see I'm saying the witness. This is the only witness they can say what happened cuz he the passenger he outside the car So this is the only witness so in the with the with him You know, he bullied me. I'm scared So even though he outside the car he don't have no weapon. You only got one witness that said he bullying him And this is why I want people to know In the situation so the boys say he never get no statement ever that how they know who to call to get your call big Yeah, if you never talk to them the corner in your name, you never had no conversation with you How they know who to contact for you to come get your call Because soon as they are give woody property available. They call me and You can come get this you can come get that so you get your call back. How they how they know who to call Yeah, I know who to come take cuz the car wasn't in his name exactly So how they so you say gonna get your call back in a week. How you know that who called you who told you that yeah You know saying so when it come down to the statements, I got all the statements I went to the DA office and when the man called me He said we don't know Billy cuz nobody never came forward on woody's behave to give a statement This is why that day I lost my my favorite brother and I lost another son because I don't give a fuck about What y'all say it's done. They can't nobody tell me nothing cuz they were there. They was there But I'm not telling I'm not mad at y'all about nothing that happened after they are before that But when you chose not to go give a statement on my son behave that cut out highs I can't handle how with you. I bear. I don't damn never fucked up the kids and everything Because it's Because what would keep you from go giving a statement Like you from the ride that on nothing cuz you could have did it right thing I'm not saying you should have or nothing because you know, I'm gonna go I'm gonna take everything to the law. Yeah in my age right now at 42 years old every time taking everything to the law But you can't say what other reason when you want to go get a statement because the only statement They got is one person The the passenger could say what he want to say they're not gonna go off of his statement They only gonna go off the witness. It's only one witness Correct. It's it and then y'all all popping on the witness. No, I don't think he would do that. What's the What is y'all talking about? They did you think we I'm the leader pair. I'm the parent I'm telling you I'm riding on my son. I'm at these people out I got text message my phone from the DEA right now But I'm just gonna take it to the next level the state drop the in nobility but I'm gonna take it to the feds and That's why I come down here every week and I'm a petition. I'm gonna go to the office I'm gonna do Ali ain't stopping because y'all either gonna handle it the right way because when you get hands at the wrong way Then it's the people gonna be in trouble. I don't want it that way, right I want to see nobody in jail behind boys about nothing. So I'm gonna go That's good. Don't give up because I'm not telling you when you do if I'm 90 years old Yeah, it's not gonna stop with me It's not it's not gonna stop Yeah, how hard is it for you to take it to that federal it was hard the only reason it's hard is because I Don't do nothing wrong in our streets, but just being But I'm telling you like it really been a room with Ali different people you got ATL But I don't do no wrong, but it's just so uncomfortable. I bet it's just so uncomfortable So what do you think these your brother and he's got why wouldn't they say something I don't get that Explanations that's their nephew Like I said a lot of stuff, but I'm a cleared up now my brother and son I'll leave them They I don't think they had nothing to do with nothing But what hurt me is for detective to call me. I still got a message saying I'm trying to contact your brother and your Son they won't return my car. You know, I'm trying to go to them. I drive to them. I Go to them and get the statement. She said because I'm telling you now Even with a polygraph test it don't stand up in court over a witness So once you have the witness they override everything so if you have The the club gonna protect they sell there while I'm going after them to the security company on protect they sell Everybody protecting they sell but nobody stood up to protect voting and when they come to the statements You see what I'm saying like it was like oh, they was into it or They had this little thing over a hundred dollars over the not getting a money big But in the instance the guy can go to the detectives in the DA and say I was bullied I was scared for my life Because the retaliation But in the statements, I mean but in on social media You do a different type of person So they need somebody to come in and give a statement on what happened because there's no audio It's just the footage and you just see what's going on. You don't hear no no voices. You don't hurt nothing So yeah, he got the state no built him, but the Really like I said, I'm really like I know already that this is uphill battle for you And I don't think it stops either, you know what I mean because that's your son and Can't nobody tell you how to deal with that? That's something that you and God you have to figure out, you know I mean in the same with you We we loved the fact that we got to meet water and we wanted to bless y'all with just some plaques just to show our appreciation, you know what I mean? It's just It's just it's something else man But I do know that that we here if it's anything I can ever do if you need these mics They always wide open year everybody gonna see But it's just something that that that I felt like, you know It was a moment we got with him and if he'd have still been around just like the others Just like Barrio and all the others he'd have been right back right back But I already was I got the text where he takes me. I Had put it out or something. He said something to me. It was something we were going back and forth I do the same thing. I got barrio finished this morning, too. I knew it was coming I want to face it. This is the only show that he did it. I wasn't mad about you said that all the rest of I called him the last one he did on at my family house and I'm like he up here Talking like his vocabulary not extensive. He up here smoking marijuana on the no, no, we don't do it We don't know this one. I Text him and I said look at this one He little better so then he walked through the door because I met his house He walked through the door I think Brooke was there too and I said y'all he did bet on this is the other one I like music when I started doing music You know gave a little bit of his real character all the rest of them I think he just did the interviews because they wanted him to do the interview, but he wasn't we had fun Yeah, this one was totally different And all kind of stuff and and we was talking about him doing his stuff and making it his own brand and not putting On other people platform building up his YouTube channel. That's what we was talking about So I always I went back and looked at it several times actually, but go ahead We would like to present y'all with this award and it says in loving memory of world II live in recognition of the natural talent You had for the music releasing mixtapes after mixtapes. You've always illustrated love for the to for family and for your family To 2022 Yeah, no man, you guys are dope man And like I said, man, if it's anything ever that you need from me, I'm here. Yeah, man, we don't we don't chop it up We definitely already knew that I told you that that day when we was at the funeral I'm like, man, we got we got we got to get together. You thought I was playing now I'm not gonna ever stop calling and we're in and brooks shout out to her everybody that keep trying to run from me Nigga, I'm calling Man, thank y'all for coming man. It's been another great segment of boss talk one-on-one what a boss is talk man We love you guys man. Thank you. All right