 I'm so excited to talk by the way my internet might randomly cut out at any time at any point it's okay We don't really need you Cut yourself out Cut out my of life I'm for 20 seconds and nobody's notified yet. What is YouTube get on your shit get on with it I can't see you Just popped up for me Hello there everyone Wonderful, I mean you got a sound excited because this movie's gonna Great, what are you talking about? I'm not playing by any rules for this I'm upset that Jay would even cry and test this movie was okay Also the chat is not By default Yes, that's the first thing we need to discuss there were too many women I saw that there was a whammy on the poster and then another one and then another one that is Two of them aren't even pre-established women through Um Love the part where it's like oh, no, it's not some man. It's you they said, okay, we shouldn't They made Sarah Connor sexist so that they could make the point that the movie wasn't sexist We mean the fact that she was like Sarah Connor automatically assumed that it was gonna be some man So they made her sexist so they could be like no we the filmmakers are not sexist And It can be some anyone That pre-established character trait that Sarah Connor was sexist He's a strange one in this film in terms of just what's going on there. She made me hate her so quickly Well, she was amazing in T2 I guess Yeah, what I was gonna say the only reason why she uh, oh Are we talking about are we gonna go in straight in all these well? This is the thing. It's gonna be confusing. I guess we'll try and do Talking about the film from start to finish scene by scene Yeah, there'll be some things we'll want to talk about as like a meta in terms of a Lot of things going over from beginning to end like a character Yeah, I was gonna jump into some of it. I was gonna have like two thirds into the way Um Well, I guess hang on to actually all of you pull up a notepad if there's anything you want to say, but you feel like oh, it might be Just how about that the chat is not on stream There's still no, that's good point Yeah, it's set at like five minutes ago, but you ignored me. I just figured it would come out by then like it I'll just give you a second but The spider web is still there. Thank goodness the spider web is still there. I Will fix that in a moment while I'm crossing the button Why don't you guys give your overall of first impressions as a whole overall as a whole overall In a nutshell in a hole Not a nutshell in a hole. They made me not like Sarah Connor Hey Wait, yeah, actually, let's do that. Alex was right two numbers. What do you give it out of ten three? No, what do you give it out of ten? Yeah, I agree three I'm gonna go for a bold four Well, I could say that maybe Genesis a two or three so It's got to be above Genesis by at least one point maybe Yeah, yeah, Genesis is I'm not only concerned This is above Genesis, but not above anything about below anything else Like saying I've not seen it will will make me earn points. Yeah, people be like, oh, you didn't see a good job Um Yeah, I guess I'm gonna say this pretty bad, but it was not as bad as we expected only say It's the one times is because there's no point in repeating it a million times But uh this we're gonna spoil the whole film. I'm talking about it. That's a good thing Nobody should read no way About that But if you want to see it without spoilers then don't watch this stream It's also in the title. I have done everything I can to prevent you Of this very good movie Instead of spoilers, so there's only gonna worry about just spoiled one. There is one spoiler and it is for the whole movie Apparently because cinema was empty as shit. Yeah, the cinema was really quiet. Oh, yeah Three other people than you wow The people in me Then you not in you Was like Like to me a fall on this and like and this is like the sequel to terminate free like the like they were trying to go for all I'll to really but If it was like the fourth actual one and it's been this long since the last one I think it would like have a bigger turnout, but Absolutely Wonder if yeah, well, I don't see it doesn't exist. Yeah, I would have guessed it would make money this film But I don't know maybe won't we'll suffer I was made a way that apparently they wanted to make a trilogy out of this. Oh God and with how it ends you can see how that's possible With them preventing Legion Apparently, yeah. All right. Yeah, so there's gonna be a lot of people in this audience who do not care to see this film They're gonna want a plot somewhere 40 million opening weekend Is that bad? I That's probably good enough to make its money back is it probably costs like I'm gonna say 200 million So that that's not its money back. No, but it's indicative that it will make its money Okay, maybe I don't know Um So the film begins I don't know if anyone's got comments on each of these things But I'll have to have some while they're showing us the opening credits. So like, you know who made this film Producers companies and stuff. They're into splicing it with the video from T2 where Sarah is talking about how the world's gonna end Which was ranged And it felt really like hey remember Remember every fucking scene is like hey remember terminated to this one It's a remake of it too, but I was gonna say it's interesting that there's not much at all in terms of references to minute one Like Kyle Reese isn't mentioned at all No Yeah, this mainly is just it. I mean it too was the one that dreams super But yeah, I get Using that video, I don't know. It's just to me. I'm just like I can get to my nostalgic plans Gonna roll out where they were but it's also supposed to I guess be a message from the narrative being that hey I think they stopped Skynet Well, maybe they did that's the thing they do they're going for that with this one in the other films They were like no Skynet can come back in different ways in this film. They're like no no they killed it But another thing happened Yeah, so is that a thing that I've not seen terminated to that recently is it um Could you interpret from terminated to that they actually stopped Skynet in the events of that film? Uh, yeah, well the idea is that they stopped so Terminator one was supposed to be a closed loop as in Kyle Reese comes back to save Sarah from a terminator that was sent back to kill her and in and thus creates John Connor who eventually saves humanity and forces So it's terminator two terminator two was a closed loop. No, no, no, no, no terminator two is not that's the point of terminator two It's it's trying to say that um This time when they came back instead of just protecting John They're also going to find a way to stop Skynet from ever happening in the first place Um, and they do The reason uh, because what happens in t2 they try and argue the uh Instead of it happening in any way that it was going to it happens sooner Because they have access to the terminator arm and the cpu if you remember from t1 Yeah, and then they stop that making it happen when it was going to happen any way before, right? Well, I thought their point was the stopping that and blowing up cyber dine and deleting all of whatever they they essentially stopped it Um, and it was supposed to be a positive message about how you can control your fate. Everyone keeps saying i'm cutting out I'm looking at my mic levels Doesn't show that Well, you wouldn't hear the same thing they get it through obs you get it through discord Fair enough. Am I still cutting out let me check that or am I fine? You're cutting out even more. Oh someone said he hears me perfectly fine So that leaves us with uh the end of the story t2 is like hey not only did we actually stop skynet's assassination attempt but we also Ended you know, there is no fate But what you make you we've stopped judgment day as well and that's why she says it in this film and that's why In t3 When they were like lol judgment day happens regardless. It's like oh fuck off like fuck you That's why everyone was pissed at t3 Um because t3 was just we wants to continue the franchise and then t4 People were less pissed because it was like a new take on trying to do the war part Which is what everybody wanted to see anyway and then genesis happened and that pissed off everybody more than ever like Literally deleting films and humiliating or trying to humiliate the older films that fucking line Who says you're you're a relic from a deleted timeline? Yeah Be alex and bell watch that uh the night before last no before we went to see yeah, it was a night for last Yeah, but um, what an ironic line Considering what's happened now the film that says lol you suck gets deleted from caddard Yeah, you're fucked But dark fate has decided. Okay. Yes. Yes. They stopped skynet. That did happen You're like, okay, and it's like but something else comes along which is having a cake and eating it I guess Kind of like the better call soul of movies Like hey breaking bad stopped. It totally stopped, but we're also going on. It's like wait, what? Yeah, I think for me genesis is like the sequel that no one asked for and then this is just like and Well, I don't have a variation of it It's just like I don't know what they're doing What was the plan really behind this and you're saying like this there's a plan is money Yep I know I thought it'd be that cynical straight off the bat probably worth me, um Me be explaining the first scene we get I guess I'll just give it a little summary. Oh, no, this scene is great. This is the best scene in the film No, shut up. I gotta do something else for the five ten minutes Let me you get the old timinated twos finished. It's in the bag. Everything's great then apparently Uh, all we know is Sarah Connor goes to a beach with John And they look exactly the same as at the end of t2 essentially Just chillin just chilling John looks like he's gone to get an ice cream or something. I don't know How and his how and his chill out day and then Sarah's like got a beer and he's going great And then Arnie just shows up and shoots John three times with a shotgun and he dies Yay And Sarah's like upset obviously And um And Arnie throws her away That he just walks off because he's done the machine has terminated its target And that's it. That's our Welcome to terminator three technically because they'd want to call it that if they could I guess I don't know if there's a little thing But they have so many games numbers these days like people waver of their subtitles instead of I think it's because they embarrassed when you have like, you know, go numbers with t3 What's like with that just numbers like up to like seven six is like, oh my god, like, you know It gets a bit absurd eventually, doesn't it? Um, honestly, it's a little bit like rule as well He shoots John once And then he walks up to him and double taps him with a shotgun again And is like, wow You know, you want to tell the audience he definitely didn't make it and you're like, yeah, I I get it That is Edward Furlong's contribution to this film, by the way Was he actually in it? Well, I think they would have modelled young john after his face I don't know if they filmed a scene where he did it in like some kind of No, I don't think they would have I don't know what's going on below me, but my floor is literally vibrating He's on die So uh that that scene alone there's like three or four scenes that make me hate the film Not as many as genesis, but that's one of them. It's just like It's such a middle finger mm-hmm um Hey, but without that scene the film wouldn't be able to happen Wouldn't it though, can you just have john? John okay, yeah So, yeah So next up um on you terminator not terminator a hero born's in On a on a bay or something and kill several policemen. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I guess we'll just speed through this shit. So like she's unconscious our heroine and Police show up because she like I guess she fucked everything up on like a highway. Um And they're like, yo, what are you doing? But then they they aim guns at her So that gives a reason enough to essentially kill them all like I don't I don't know that she kills any of them But she fucking wounds the shit out of I don't think she cares No, I don't think she cares either I get that impression throughout the film and I think that the we're supposed to believe that she believes That this is all to save the world so it doesn't matter I I get behind that to be fair Like if an equivalent movie came out where she didn't save the world because she wanted to Let some policemen have a fighting chance. I'd be like fuck off Yeah, she takes the people's clothes and just your standard sort of tip bro uh So she's got enhancements books like a person for the art and You like and scan shit. I don't even really know how to put it You get a view of her eyes every once in a while and she like scans the crap out of it She has zoomed in hex She has zoom and enhance. It's a very useful It is for spotting crashing drones Stop dropping her head jade Wait, jade jade's gotta get his sense out. It was just a hypothetical. It wasn't anything to do with that What actually happens in the film? So then we meet our protagonist. I forget her name Grace no no grace the terminator Yeah, not the not terminator Oh, oh, oh Danny right. Yeah, her full name is like didn't daniella. Is it Danny? Okay, yes, Danny. We'll call it Danny Fuck her Um, you're cutting out again more I'm gonna have to get a little close to my microphone. I guess there you go. No go back Talk a lot So Danny the wonderful Danny is seen being kind to lots of different people She's sorting out her family's life She like helps her dad get things in order and gets her brother to do this that and the other Like get ready for work because he's late and Make sure her dad gets her pills The film's way of being like she seems to be pretty good when it comes to Being a leader if you may if you may say what do you guys think? Yeah, it's kind of like a leader thing How about that? He seems like she's gonna give birth to someone important Oh, that's sexist that you automatically assume is to do with birth j What that's what we're in for Oh, no. Oh my goodness The views of j xi do not reflect the views of f up Views of effort for thoughtless right now Um Which takes us to they're going to work I think um Just like some industrial plant and then they make a big deal about how um Yeah, her and her brother the car factory how like robots are replacing humans Just like that so fucked up. I guess the because there's a lot of random bits of commentary Uh in a matter sense in this room Yeah, I don't know but all of it's really thin though. So it's like there's not much to say about it It's just like, yeah, there's Automations replacing worker jobs. That's the thing that happens in film and they're like no bad I don't know if it's also trying to say something about the machines in general the the terminator law machines I think they just felt clever for including it because it was dramatically relevant to the events of the film Machines try to kill humans and machines replace humans in real life Look, it actually happens in real life. We're not that far off the terminators The minute is it coming for us almost trying to warn us. Oh, yeah, of course and and uh new terminator man Uh arrives to um Also, yeah, was it always a thing that it freezes things around it when they teleport? No No, that's like that's like a new like special effect. Yeah, because before it was just like the electrical It was lightning and the burn stuff. I mean literally burn things into The burnt holes into things go into time But this this one as well, but for some reason it freezes it and I don't know why Yeah, Genesis has that one where when like a car drives through the the bubble or ever or it just like melts instantly Yeah So it gets it gets a bit more creative or different each time Well, if you remember this is this isn't skynet technology now It's region technology. So maybe it freezes everything around it because that's just a thing that it Yeah, but works pretty much exactly save it every other Well meaningful way So, um, such a cool and creative name. Oh, it's so cool. So like evil terminator kills Danny's dad And then takes his takes his base takes his body and it does the whole thing because he's uh, He's like the terminator three terminator except this time. He can like duplicate himself He's got like a core that's a terminator and then Doopie goo that can come out and the terminator if you've seen the trailer, you know what I'm talking about Um, that's the film cool new term. You know that they were like, how do we make a cool new terminator? We've done liquid. We've done liquid and solid put together. How about liquid and solid, but they can come away from each other You need a gas terminator I quite liked the titan I liked the tit enhancement termator from t3 Oh But it's weird to see 1000 Hmm I still love that at this point that they don't bother to explain why they only ever send one terminator back Like, you know, they covered it in the first one and they've made it so much worse Yeah, they suggested that they send loads of terminators back, but I guess none of them find it Um, but it's relevant to what we're currently talking about. Is it though? Is it? Yes? And we are not almost there. That's like halfway through the film at least. Um That's like almost in the sense that time isn't linear Time traveling through the events of the film, that's what happens when you mention something out of sequence so like both the What do I call the good terminator? Grace No, um Well, yeah, that's not a name. I guess there's an Grace if people are gonna remember who we're even talking about when I say that That's why I'm saying good terminator Or if you say the you know the augmented human or whatever But that's that's long-winded Fine the augmented The good the good guy timid air not timid air is pretty much what she is She's she gets to the workplace. Oh, yeah, she's her brother's being fired as well The main character Danny's brother and she's like Can't fire him. He needs to be over and it's just like all right Yes showing that she stands up for for for people as well I've got to get them characteristics in before you try and explain that she's like a leader of humanity and stuff Make enough sense um And then evil timid air gets to their job and starts trying to kill everybody uh he So he has a a lunch bag That he's holding a gun Underneath I think or in Because uh, I gotta make this clear. He can't make complex Machines or guns or anything out of his goop Oh, was he actually holding that gun because I I thought that he actually like formed that I swear it showed in forming that gun. I was like, what the fuck it's it looks like he's forming it But he's definitely holding it before he does that Oh Yeah, I'll I'll go with that He was worse they never Well, since they never get him to spawn guns ever again It's kind of that's why I thought it was such a huge problem Like I would I would be okay with them changing the rules like okay He can spawn weapons like the guns now Oh, there was just so he never does it again for the rest of the film like, okay But there's so many opportunities where he just like he chose deliberately to you like to form his hands into like, you know, spiky, uh, well Well spears or whatever. Yeah, and then there's like a gun would have just been better and more efficient and as a robot You should just be able to go on, you know, like instant like pinpoint accuracy bang dead, but no, you know He like holds the bag up to the sun at one point and you can see what looks like a trigger behind the Bag right at the top. I think he's holding the gun the whole time Yeah, so he so he picked up a gun before hand and Where did he get it with him? Yeah, I don't know Uh, I don't think they showed him. He says he says bonus deers to the Also, I think we should look at how the other policemen's uniform we talk about how on like how unintentionally funny The scene where he drops down naked from like the middle of the building Uh, and sees a random woman there and just says bonus deers I don't know what the what it's such a weird, uh Thing with villains in terminator because the whole idea is that obviously they uh, they are machines. They don't actually have any kind Personalities wait, what do whatever they speak or do anything? I'm always just trying to figure out how um How that helps them with their mission essentially like it always has to be a pragmatic thing So him just being like hello, it's just like I guess that's just to try and don't cause any trouble with regular people Um, so he thinks that dropping out of the sky Fully naked. I mean, oh shit. This is gonna What I will say is why they're falling out of the sky in this one Fingers form like spikes or like a spike In the fight in the industrial place one that Basically, there are several times in the film where he has a chance Why can't he just throw a spear that he can make of himself? I'm not I can reference genesis that they do that, but maybe that doesn't count because it's not canon now Uh But like logically he would be able to do that person. I don't see why he can't. Yeah, just throw that thing Uh, also dropping the um the heavy weight on him. Remember the brother does that Yeah, why doesn't the goo just immediately come off the body and start attacking them? Because film like he's she's like that won't take him down for long It's like shouldn't take him down at all and she should know that because she's fought like a million of these things Well, she uses a like 12 gauge shotgun or whatever to take him down initially So it's like well if that can do that a car dropping on it would like, you know have enough force to do something But then it's yeah, why can't it just you know well mold out and just Sliver away on it. He gets better at Being a rev nine, which is what he's called later in the film earlier in the film. He's kind of meh Like he's well decently done though to be fair What do you mean like Um, uh, I would say the way they were choreographed. Yeah, I didn't I didn't notice anything horrifically bad Uh I thought that the choreography was good Just uh, like very visceral action scene Oh, well, I have criticisms of not less the choreography more the the decisions of the characters in terms of fights Yeah, that was stupid as far. Yeah, like they they do stupid things But the way like the way all the action flows together very nice Also, hello, Ned Rotic. He said what is more complicated a bit? What is more complicated a human body or a gun? And um in fairness, you only you don't like copy a whole human body. Does he as you It's like the outside of the human body if you cut him. He's still just Like um, uh, his own body doesn't have any gunpowder in it Gunpowder and moving parts make any shape he wants. Yeah, but he can't make Moving parts and yeah chemicals. They never say that he can't do that I don't think does she say he can't do that like what I'm suggesting is that we don't see him do it So we assume he can't but um Don't make guns and stuff. Yeah, like he must not be able to Yeah, so if he could he obvious absolutely. Oh, do you remember this Most of stupid decisions in this film. I remember if there's more than one instance of this But she has spider sense the other not terminator protector person She uh, yes He goes, oh shit and looks to the left and then this he burst through the wall As yeah, I thought that was with the truck. Yeah, and this is like you can you I don't remember any other instances of her in spider sense I like to think I like to think I was editing fuck-up like they got the clips in the wrong order Like it was supposed to burst through first and then she goes, oh shit Which doesn't say a lot about that that she uh has like super hearing or whatever it's like It's because you don't have super hearing or something. She was spotted UAV like I think She read it in a history book No, no, but she can spot you UAV. They're like, you know X X how far in the sky and then Yeah, but she could see that she had a clear line of sight of that the truck She can't see through walls or whatever like for I don't see her being able to see through walls like Well, it was smashed through a wall didn't it? So that's how she's That's how they're portraying it like she looked sorry Mel said and then it came through when you argue is a hearing thing It doesn't establish that at all I think she runs off a whole bunch of features. Didn't she say something about hearing? Yeah, that's what I meant Yeah, but okay, so there's some rumbling coming towards the wall that must be Yeah, she she clearly assumes very accurately from the sound to load what he was driving and what was about to happen So I don't remember it doing it again. But yeah, that's what you do uh So then there's a car chase quite a long one Because terminator Yeah, and then we could probably sum this up pretty fast. Actually, it's just like it just where it goes there's lots of explosions lots of crashes and then He works and runs away until the terminator pretty much fucks them up completely. He kills the brother I thought it was kind. I thought they were gonna let him die in the terms of like He sits there and slowly bleeds out or something But he just gets blown up because I was fucking driving to him. I was like, oh rip brother He's like it's not horrendous enough. He has like a fucking thing spiked through his chest like there was all run away and he just fucking crashes it That's probably a better death Like I would rather blow up than die slowly from a spike through my chest Yeah, because the terminator like suicide bombed him in that car Yeah, I thought it was weird because it like disables the terminator for a decent amount of time And it's like wow, he really went all in on that Like why would the terminator just jump out the second he's about to do it so he's like active I think he's like really sloppy for us this film His execution of how he's trying to kill them every time every time he tries to kill them He like he doesn't get a clear shot Bother about that. He's like, okay. I'm here. I'm near them I'm just gonna fire my weapons in their general direction and hope it is Um, and that's totally not gonna broadcast the line here and they're totally not gonna have to have to escape Honestly, I don't know why they just don't make the terminators like be rigged up So like they could just self-destruct and like make a huge explosion All they're gonna do is like run like because that would make sense Oh, yeah, but they wouldn't yeah, they wouldn't be able to do anything and then plus there's no evidence They're just oh, yeah Well, it's all blown up. They leave no evidence but um There was a thing in the car chase where I feel like they cut out loads of stuff that it would have been good to see Like they did the quick cut stuff There was a point I remember where um Oh, what's the fate grace was doing a maneuver like around uh, like Oh like the the entrance to the highway. She was like, what was it reversing up that or something? But they don't show her like turning into it. They just cut from like Are being like threatened by the bulldozer to her going up the Ramp and you don't actually see like the important Steps between one to a to be have to Like yeah, I'm I'm fairly confidently cut out like important things that you would need to see to understand like the flow of the action scene and that pissed me off I was like, okay. I guess that's happening. Cool So yeah for me I was gonna say just for me when that was happening I was like more just disinterested because like, oh, yeah That there's just while they're just emulating another terminator film because they can't think of to do anything else, you know with with the More material No, they're gonna put a truck into water. It's gonna be great. How does it work with like so? He forms up, you know The the the goo vision forms up the terminator himself Then he has like clothes that like wave in the wind and stuff I mean this applies to the t1000 I guess as well, but I'm just curious. How does that work? Yeah, it's special special good. Yeah, well either way They get close to losing They're like one of you wanting the terminator without a car the brother's dead and then as you saw in the trailer Sarah Koneer ends up shoots him with a short gun until he falls off the bridge and she RPGs or whatever's Whatever thing she has into but I was about metal vision rather than the vision And then um, she's metal. Yeah, he made it In hospital, but we connect wi-fi um And so she looks over the edge and he's like clearly impaled and burning and she's like Brows a grenade down to him and then she's like, I'll be back Did you remember that line from a good film? Yeah They they do this a lot in this film. They like like they repeat lines or they like, you know Do variations of the line or you know, and it's like, um, this is a hope This is a homage or a fucking take the piss. I can't tell and like I hate to like pick as well, but what's with the delivery being like I'll be back Like That's that's how you're kind of like delivery throughout in it. It's just that kind of like she doesn't seem like she wants to be there No, yeah, apparently she did but I'd be willing to believe that she well Paycheck is a paycheck Can we can we like okay? I don't want to jump ahead, but can we acknowledge? um Her sad face did that did that stick out to anyone else? The um, I I turned to alex about this the scene where she she's moping because of uh It's a bit of a jump ahead. We'll have to wait, but uh, I'll take it up I could I'm sorry. I could just see like her making that face It literally just that face looked to me like her director had just said in terrier Dude, you're really sad. It looked like no sadder You sit on the lawn with pepper offended Why are you sad sarah? Just like my son is dead Um Rags everybody said how was the movie not good bad Goddamn masterpiece um So, uh, wait wait wait. Yeah, so so sarah goes and tries to kill him She just like I don't know what her plan was Because she knows what a t1000 is like. She walks down to the guy who's like covered in goo and deforming Whatever an explosion she's walks down there with a shotgun like, um Yeah, all right. Like are you just planning this to shoot at it repeatedly like Also, was that her was that her kill box for this scenario? Oh Killing floor too So this this is simultaneously like funny and stupid So like if someone turns up and saves your life while some homicidal maniacs try to kill you just leaves their car It's kind of like I guess we'll take their car like I don't know why not And sarah like looks up to the bridge and she's like, ah, shit Yeah, I think I think this is a total issue throughout the film. Is it like trying to be serious or not because not jumping ahead, but uh It gets goofier The film really wants to have fun while also trying to be super important Yeah I was also just like goofy one-liners like it's goofy like scenes for like, you know in an entirety My whole body is a weapon. I'm sorry about your shed um Yeah, what? Yeah, what I Jay referred to whether the rev nine said about the shed. Oh, yeah Trying to figure out what's Other than just saying it's bad Uh So wait, did anyone else want to say anything? So I was gonna just move on to the next thing Uh, nothing, okay Sarah Connor at this point wasn't terrible yet, but we were getting like the the seeds of So She was in character as her terrible self. You don't realize who she is Uh, so Sarah's just left on the highway while they drive to um They drive to a pharmacy. Yeah, because The not terminator has been augmented. She's not a terminator. She's a human who has augments And like what does that mean? It means that they're stronger and faster and have regenerative abilities and super senses, but they also Die if they get into a fight About five minutes Yeah, they Spells so much energy because they got such a like high functioning metabolism or whatever that like if they're not If they haven't killed a terminator in like seven minutes or less, you know, they're dead kind of thing, you know Now in fairness to the film here, didn't it say that like they could Essentially configure their metabolism so that they can For like any tax that they predict they're gonna do so she set it to be super high So that like because she predicted she was gonna kill it in the first five minutes on all at all I don't know but just keep going to it. It's it's just a little like handy cap for Grace's character so that she can't always be doing the same thing every scene, you know It didn't even really matter that much yeah, I was No, and they raided the pharmacy and All the drugs that she dumped into herself. It's like the most confusing shit ever Why she needs that specifically as opposed to like, you know, if it's energy, why not food, you know, why not just Popped McDonald's or some shit, you know, did they actually establish the He chose for it to be that way because she hoped to kill the terminator within the five minutes I think so i'm gonna have to watch it again to make sure because I don't remember that I don't I don't I swear it was more like the element surprise, you know, it's a it's a you know You spring on them and you attack them and you just do everything, you know, yeah You wouldn't leave your best way to like get rid of it I either she made that decision or someone else made it for her but someone made it. Well, it's retarded anyway It's yeah He's doing a fucking defensive mission. She's she needs to escort Danny And protect her but she can only do it for five minutes if she doesn't find like other things And then Danny who is woefully unprepared for any of this then has to protect her. It's like what a fucking rescue mission And like from my perspective, I think they got it backwards like oh, we need to be at a short base of powerful energy It's like no, no, no long base of medium energy Are you are you ready are you ready for people to argue that? Danny knew exactly what was going to happen when she sent grace back So it all makes sense because Danny knew that it was all going to work out when she did it like that Wait say that again So Danny future Danny remembers all of this happening, right? So people are going to argue that everything that happens makes sense because Danny knew Um, that it all worked out So she sent grace with all of the stupid handicaps because she knew that that would make sense I'm not following. Sorry. So basically what he's saying is that um as much as you can say it's stupid that grace may have been sent with all of these handicaps Uh, you can't say it's that stupid because uh, Danny knew that it would work because she lived it, you know Oh But I would argue that that's dumb because fucking still ends up dying grace. It's like maybe Maybe send her with another power source Yeah, a backup power source that'd be pretty good or send her with that device Well, she can't she can't like uh, no shove it into a badger Sure shove it in where shove it into a badger A badger. Yep. I This is my the shove it into a badger is one of my biggest criticisms of timon air as a whole Shovel into a hole. Do you know what shove it into a badger? A badger hole. Yes. The badger's hole. So think about this jay You're a you're you're the terminators and you're like, right, let's send back arnie and terminator one Hey, should we send him with one of our advanced ray weapon guns? And it's like no, no, no, no We can't do that because thing has to be covered in and skin And you know, they could just generate the skin that they have been for terminators this whole time And just hold like he has literally a skin handbag and put the gun in there I'm just imagining like a skin coated gun at this point Like i'm putting it out there. Maybe you don't have time you go. Okay. Grab a badger Grab a badger and just shove it into its ass. There you go. The badger will protect It needs to be a badger. Okay Shove it into a beaver Yeah, beaver would work a lot of different things would work honestly Isn't it just funny to think that when the terminators made the Uh, well the terminators that infiltrate with the uh, human skins or ever They made that and then made a time machine And then it just so happened that they had to have human skin terminators to work the time machine Otherwise they just be like, why can't we work here? Anyone walks in they just disappear, you know Brodenberg loves this idea. Yes, he would he would have done it Um, but yeah, basically what i'm just saying is like, oh this device will literally just fucking kill him Oh Pete take it with you. It's like nah Okay Uh, what do they say that the ep is gonna, you know, we'll have to get Yeah, I think it's really stupid that her handicap is that she literally dies and Access to this miracle drug the which by the way, I think whoever just said it is right They could have taken that out of the whole movie and I don't think it makes much of it Yeah, because she almost immediately gets new medicine. She has she has the medicine throughout the rest of the movie I thought the payoff is gonna be the end where they're really struggling and Sarah's got the busted arm to a degree and she I was like, oh, this will be how they have to survive without you know, when they're like you go You're the only one who can even throw a punch to her Danny. I was like, oh, this will be it But then she gets her ejection and she dies Yeah, you forgot that I assume it's like a rewrite or something and they just you can be bothered to dig it out because it literally serves No purpose to the story I think they even have her keep like the syringes That she keeps having those for contrived reasons like arty is like, oh you dropped this You forgot this in the plane And and like oh the guys who searched it didn't take it off. Yeah the scene where she gets detained like someone looks for the comments And I like oh you really fucked up this search. Didn't you look she's got two syringes. Oh wow I wonder if she has those because the plot needs her to How do you not search for that? Is people crossing the border Jump jump into their head for With if you go back to when grace has a treatment in the hotel, so they get out. No, they get a motel Um, because that's in every terminator film too Yeah What was their solution to treat this fucking augmented human? Oh, not not a ice not an ice bath, but an ice bed bath ice bed Yeah, I don't have you seen the bathtub Yeah, and then they dump it in there or on there and then they just inject it with every fucking piece. Well every, uh, We're nearly to that Yeah, I don't Yeah We're just we're just assuming these dosages like well, we know are there this one killer is like, oh Let's just give it a little bit of everything Normal medicines that people take it probably won't kill her but Insulin is in there I'm definitely overdosed on that Well, don't give her enough to overdose on Didn't she just shove it all in though? Yeah, and apart from that it's like what what's insulin for? Oh, yeah to lower her blood sugar. It's like what did she have like a really heavy meal? No, she just fucking if anything she's expelled her energy She needs she needs to eat not fucking lower her sugar level I don't know how that works It doesn't No, no, it doesn't and fucking Well, they didn't care to explain how it worked because they just they eyeballed it and they just Well, they just work because at the next scene she's walking And it's just like, you know, oh We saved you Crisis averted Yeah, uh, Sarah turns up I don't really know how she found them The quarter she knew where the times couple happened No, no, no, I'm talking about when she turns up with a pharmacy Oh, yeah, okay Okay, can we can I just bring up right What would change in this film if you removed Sarah completely? um, I mean plot wise Nothing really You just have to all of her fighting moments have to go to somebody else Yeah, she's a passenger character wise I mean I'm sure someone would argue that Sarah goes on some form of a journey in this film No, she doesn't she doesn't have a fucking up. I guess we'll get to that She doesn't grow like all She talks about the tropes of the film that she expects to be in and then the film subverts it by not doing that and then that's it The film makes her stupid so that it can be like, hey, no, we're clever Sarah's being down also She says uh, she can't be tracked because she keeps her phone in a packet of crisps And then throws Danny's phone out of the window. Yeah, which wouldn't prevent that from being cracked. No, sorry, uh, I Doesn't arnie say at one point But like keeping it in a packet of crisps doesn't do shit No, he says if you keep it in In a crisp bag keep it in a crisp bag That's what he says. Well the implication being the peak cracker every time she Yeah, and send the text messages to you know, give her well to steer into her path forever I didn't know that file could actually do what she says it does Are we assuming that it can are we assuming that the film is right here? I guess I don't think we should assume that Look, I guess it would just be a quick google we could find out So when you go like aluminium or silver in the walls like for insulation or other things that can affect where the mobile signal Which is why like in certain buildings with like in certain parts with walls like that you can get Well, you can fuck with your signal Um, so yeah, if you just in tune my phone in that It will do that. So, okay. No, can we talk about how they characterize, um Sorry conna as a complete asshole for no reason in this film Don't you get it? She's lost john. She does nothing to live for killing two men. She's a hardened badass Okay, so, okay, okay, okay hand me your phone call throw it out the window Oh, I keep mine in a chip packet, which I have with me But yours needed to be chucked out the window because fuck you You This is a fair point. Why couldn't she just buy another packet of crisps? We'll put in the same packet of crisps This packet's a bigger than a phone I might argue that Danny was the target. Sarah is just the Grisel vet who is not well, isn't is off the grid the little bit riskier to have if it works then Either she believes it works or she doesn't like come on Well, after the certain point, what does she need a mobile phone for anyway when her family is dead and technology? Who knows what they could use it for Well, yeah, as a as a general tool, I get it. I get it, but it's like it's not it's not like anyone else didn't have it I'm sorry Something's just come to mind and I feel like I feel like we won't remember to talk about it if we do this all chronologically Can we talk about when? I forgot about that do the notepad I'll just write this in the notepad You didn't say for our fucking entertainment so, uh We we are graced with a flashback Where it's post apocalypse and they're carrying a general guy The safety and then a bunch of them Blow up everybody a general woman to safety. Oh my goodness of wammons How you doing? Hello Hello, we uh, we I noticed you film. I'm so sorry Yeah, we watched it yesterday in the big screen. It was so worth the money Yeah, I feel sorry for your wallets right now, but we had Now we laughed I have all three people with me in the in the screening of this film that just came out You guys are so are so lucky. I didn't laugh once in this. Well, actually, that's not that's not true. I did I I did laugh at something, but I'm not good. I don't know if you guys got into that part So I'm not gonna say we're quite early. So you'll be right. But yeah, we are going like well I explain a scene that we fucking rip into it again Yeah Yeah, so what we're on right now is that first flashback where she she saves general man whoever And she gets blown up doing it And she's covered in like blood and shit and then she's like I I volunteer for the augments or something and you're like, what? And I just the thing I felt funny about I was like, is that how that works? Like whenever you're close to death, you could be like, oh, fuck it augments You're like, it sounds like a thing that people would have to be in good shape to get. You know what I mean Yeah, it was out of nowhere. That's the thing they should just fucking do anyways because it's very fucking effective But yeah, it was It's like terminators and they get attacked by red nines regularly apparently We let them let's believe that they're like in the crisis scenario right now And they have to technology to make augmented humans. Don't you think like a fucked up people like yeah, fuck. Yeah, I want to be augmented Hello Would you like as well the I thought they were going for a sort of like there's just this injection Something and it fucks with you your biology completely and people only do it when they're on their death bed or something But it's like no no they cut to like a sterile room. Everything's calm. She's she's like okay in Tim's it's not blood everywhere And she's she's having this surgery performed. It's like, oh The what what about that explosion made her finally go that's it augments I don't know I swear. I don't remember the scene of the surgery Yes, it's right after it's like uh, just flashes of like a doctor looking at her and then flashing Looking at her on a table I would almost I would almost wear that that scene wasn't in my cut that I saw but like I don't see why that would happen So I guess I'm she's such a She's such a blank slate as a character. You don't understand half the shit. She fucking does I I'll agree with that. Also, what's with the rev nines in the flashback having like tentacles All right Our guy doesn't have tentacles Yeah, like our guy should have 10 well I guess our guy is mostly disguised as a human for like a lot of the time But that's not have tentacles the rest of the time handicapped himself for like reasons. They were they were really effective as well Yeah, no, they stabbed. That's what led her to getting the augments or whatever. It's like That by tentacle getting getting the augments It's very well. That's what I mean. That's all we know about it The augments I'm augmented now and it's like it makes you OP enough to be able to kill terminators But only for five minutes and then you die Do you think that's why they have that the only five minutes thing is to try and make us go? Oh, that's why not everyone gets it. That's why there's literally no plot significance to not everyone having it Yeah, I don't think Everyone in the future is augmented. It'd be fine. Yeah, even then we still believe they're supposed to apocalypse Because you still are what I can go ahead Uh, it's it's much more problematic to send back someone who needs constant care and constant like sustenance Like if I don't do this, I'm gonna die in five minutes They did a better job sending back a regular human 30 fucking years ago Yeah, oh, yeah Oh god, you know, if I don't if I don't have my blood sugar up Like I'm gonna die You know, it's I think someone give me an apple or something. It's like a fight this terminator Like I think we'd all agree that the kill for the the rev nine goes to arnie mostly And then it also goes a little bit to the core the power core Which isn't necessarily anything to do with orc med girl It's just a power core Let's look at it from a different perspective with the augmentation What are they using in their in their future where everything is fucked to bring them back to life or to functionality I don't think they have like a lot of antibiotics and Yeah, it's surprising they have this kind of technology And and yeah, they're supposed to be able to maintain people with all these kinds of medicines in a post apocalypse Wow Like that could have been like a one sentence thing. It's like, oh, yeah We can't use them all around because we don't have enough meds to keep them alive Yeah, I'm willing to do surgery with the well when they did the whole surgery of with grace's augments It like you saw like the resources they had like it didn't look apocalyptic at all. It looked no like the dystopian future Yeah, you're right They have like spider fly things that land somewhere They have lots of like little things like this, but they don't really like add up to anything It's just like flavoring that they don't really care to explain or give a fuck about Like how because on on one hand they say everything just stopped working at some point like the fucking Plane crash. Yeah on day one. It's like everything turns off apparently. Yeah, it's instead of nukes being launched Last day two and then day three is war Right day three is oh, yeah Everyone's cut the power who did it. Oh, fuck it. Let's just kill everyone. Good job because Yeah What we're saying is nothing makes sense in this movie Can we talk about the fact then can we talk about the fact that they think it's easier to Cut people open and fill them with robot technology And apparently that's more that's easier and more effective than building robots Well, I just T 800 which is apparently extremely obsolete now like way more of a threat to mr. Evil, but then our augmented this and because You can't even survive one fight win or lose Like how crap is that? Well, yeah It was But just wasn't a fucking kamikaze bomber in that general direction Just run in and blow them up. Yeah job done We're gonna send her with an emp inside her You know emp's on like they can't be that hard to come by can can they I mean if they get shot right away every time like you can literally build You can literally find a tutorial to build an emp and that's you Not everyone has their major Guys you're using too much of your brain. It's easier to send back a gender androgynous lesbian Diabetic with five minutes of life. That's That's how you do it. That's that's intelligence. That that that is that's what's gonna win wars so um They as as Alex mentioned they put her on a bed They pour ice over her and and they just say don't put her in the bathtub because it sucks bathtub of shit It's dirty Um, and then they just inject and the girl is like, how do you know how much to give her and she's like It gives her all of it She needs I don't know Well, that's the yeah, she just guesses an amount Yeah, and then it cuts Yeah, and then it cuts to the next scene of gracious walking around just like Not to mention she pulls the gun on grace and she's like talk talk fast She immediately fucking disarms her and puts her in like Like a rested position. It's like you want to hurt no lady. Would you? Oh I don't get it. Like how retarded is Sarah? It's like, yes I'm gonna put a gun to a person while I'm a meter away from them. They can easily grab it off But she doesn't even fire That's such a trope though. That's I hate that trope if I'm gonna normally That's the thing like um, it's not um a trope because they need people to be able to disarm other people It's just like oh, yeah And movies people will always hold a gun like directly to someone's head like point blank even that's fucking dumb And it's just a flip of the coin whether or not the person actually disarms them or not because apparently people can't think oh This is a ranged weapon. I'm holding There's something that's changed because I was waiting for it He says that I stopped judgment day in the trailer. She doesn't say that in the movie Yeah, I remember that I say Oh, yeah, you're right They they I've that happens a lot in films nowadays where they they cut out trailer shit and they just completely Well, doesn't allude to anything then wasn't there like lines about them having a dark fate in the trailer that didn't make it into the movie Yeah, they they definitely didn't actually They they mentioned obviously the word fate, but they never like said dark fate whatsoever Let's see in the trailers. I swear. I remember them showing like, um I saw it was like Sarah or someone saying um um, oh We stopped skynet, but the machines still come we still have the same dark fate and that line just wasn't in the movie Yeah, probably because Rebellions are built on hope The fucking apartments no apartment, uh, whatever it is motel seats. I remember anything from that because I She like Sarah explains her history. Oh, yeah, she says that um I'm gonna say like at this point in the film. She says all she does these days is hunt terminators And so as a viewer you'd be like what the fuck Hunt terminators. How does that? How does any of that work? We'll get to that a little bit later come back. That's like Well, we'll get to that when fucking arty drops fucking law dumps us There's a lot of law dumping in this film, but it's so tis me like you listen to all of me like none of that makes any sense Stop it um Yeah, they decide that the three of them need to get to These mysterious coordinates and in order to do that they have to pass over the mexican border and to do that They have to uh get to a friend Yeah, but how do they find that out with future shit? Oh, right. Yeah, so um, basically There's coordinates tattooed onto grace or not terminate a person Apparently, they just they just just put them on there But simultaneously sara explains that she gets texts from somebody who tells her where terminators are And kills them like she goes to a place the terminators spawn in and she kills them Um, that's just a thing sara's been doing this whole time. She's been sport camping then. Yeah kind of cheap sara Um That actually explains how she found them But not entirely like it was weird for me because she said she gets two coordinates, right? So one for evil terminator one for good terminator Did she turn up to either of them? No She was at a random bridge that was like, I guess somewhere like slightly near where they end up But she didn't spawn she didn't spawn kill either of those two And she also managed to turn up at the right time to well the last moment to save them There's loads of dumb shit about sara Like I don't Understand any of that and but okay. Yeah, so they decide that's where they're going but sara says, you know It's encrypted the text and so it's like oh, we can't trace whoever's sending them then But our helpful terminator has done non terminators. Sorry He puts the phone she takes the back of the phone out and she puts it on your hand and then sara goes What are you doing? She says future shit I love that line It's Fucking screenwriting 101 They put do you remember when kyle rees in the first one made pipe bombs and he explained the whole method behind making them and And all right cereals and you can do it. Yeah, that was a good character with intelligence If uh, he's also better movie Yeah, I don't of course, but keep on just sara. So I'm doing that making pipe bombs and she asked him what he's doing He went future shit Do you remember when we watched shaft last night? Uh, I recommend it is fun. Good song. Yeah, it's really good shaft Yes There's a Moment in the film Where there's a character who's you know cool and aloof and a character who's bitten nerdy The nerdy character's like I gotta do some some hacking but obviously doesn't say that he says a whole bunch of words That some of them would just never be applicable to actually Use use quantum quantum. Well, heck What I assume is in the scripts they would have written Computer shit and then an actual person to redraft would have written in Oh, yeah, the quantum field needs to be accessed through the the binary matrix Something like that. I feel like in this script. They wrote future shit. Somebody will change that and then nobody did Shafters goes, okay, yeah Future shit, um And yeah, so in this film that they have the mentality of hey, you know, it's cool Bad words Yeah Every scene that they want to see they make seem cool. They're like they put a fuck or a shit in it Oh, that's that's mostly sara, isn't it sara's just going fuck. Shit. Fuck. Yeah. She's she's the crotchety old grandma who doesn't want to be there You metal motherfucker So cool like it's like oh She called the terminator a metal motherfucker like oh We spent so long thinking of that I was so offended by that line the way I would sum up sarah connor in this film Is she's the cartoon vision of sarah connor from t2 where it's like what was sarah connor? She's like she shot guns Oh, yeah, okay. She shot. She said badass stuff Okay Like what else did she do? It's like that was pretty much it was irrational. She was an angry person. She made jokes like no And now she just drinks. Yeah Until she blacks out. Yeah, it's funny. She's like I hug terminators and get black out drunk It's like that's all you could do for her really The writer's a proud like we did it um Yeah, that brings us to the next little dump by the way because they're on the train and We're already on the train. Oh Jesus. Yeah. Well, in fairness, that's only like before the halfway mark. I think the train Yeah, I mean there's like a like a span of things where nothing really happens It was talking and more dumping shit on us like can we do something movie plays aboard Since we're like to the train park we talk about the fact that sarah connor apparently just goes random places with like enough artillery to fucking like Take on a small army And just doesn't get arrested And apparently under the grid says Yeah, yeah, this is the point where I'm like, okay. Fucking what she's like. We're gonna need a way into the u.s That you don't have one of those Like yeah Okay, if fucking you get a text saying For john it's in the u.s. You were just like, oh fuck. Well, I guess I can't go there Well, yeah, what's going to shit? I guess we should explain that before the reveal But each of these texts that explain where terminators are spawning in She gets a message on her phone that ends with for john Like for john Um, but yeah, then then grace, uh, not terminator person explains that um But what what is the lord dump on the train? She's she's just saying that Like the world fell apart because oh there is the legion one, isn't it? So skynet's not a thing anymore. Skynet did die, but Unfortunately one day with no warning everything just got fucked bones technology everything nothing works anymore And then the following day Yes, and then the following day everyone nuked each other and then the following day everyone was at war No, no, there was no nukes this time. I'm pretty sure she said that there was nukes No, it was it was nukes. It was um day one like the phones and the electricity and all Everything stopped working. I remember it because the best stupid it was Day one all of the power went out everything stopped working day two the nukes were fired And then she said and then day three it was war She mean with the terminators or she mentioned russia. It's okay. So I'm just I'm just my thought is okay So the nukes were fired that wasn't war All of the world's nukes are fired. That's not worldwide. No, um the the day after that everyone's like, oh fuck We should do something about this It's so lame and it's because they don't want to explain it But they're just like, uh, there's legion. It's not skynet. I swear Legion Like as we talked about in the beginning The only reason he's legion He's legion Okay, that was a little much. They are the only reason they Did this was because they weren't allowed to bring back skynet. They were like skynet's Big gay we can't bring it back again Yeah, this is a future that's being killed. Um, we need something different It's called not skynet. You may as well call it. It's the exact fucking same thing. They have the same They have the exact same design for the faces They don't it doesn't mean they call hunter killers the fucking big theory. It's like you can't call the same exact How is this not skynet? Yeah, it's the exact same thing designs that they had and the filing cabinet for a skynet They just took about my name because I actually think that would have been cool to change up the terminators look With these new models, but they're the same fuckers No, but then they just sold as many tickets the most updated thing is the um spikes coming out of the Like the tentacles That just makes sense like Remind me of the things from the edge of tomorrow. They've died repeat or whatever Why did someone in the trap just say transnet? There's no real consistency between the technologies like throughout all the films They just it's just whatever they want to check in for special effect bullshit Um region versus skynet versus alien versus predator I'll watch it I'm surprised that terminator versus alien or terminator versus predator doesn't exist at this point comic book form it does Yeah, uh, of course, uh, so Evil terminator we see him in some kind of just data center of some kind and he's killed everyone there And he just digs his hands into wires and he finds them. This is this is the part I had my notes I got I got we did forget one of a little bit that happened on the train scene where it was Explaining why the terminator is after dany because dany at this point is like finally calm down for five seconds to go Why me and then sarah runs her mouth off going It's because of your son. Your son's gonna be the killer. She goes as far as saying It's your womb. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they don't they couldn't Broadcast it any harder. It's like literally you don't fucking matter. You're a piece of shit It's so fucked up for sarah to be saying it because like sarah You're the reason john is even able to do anything in the original films. That's why you're so important That's why everyone loves the shit out of you sarah's literally been there for a terminator coming after her and a terminator coming after john She knows that terminators don't just come after the parents She's lost brain cells. Yeah, and she's she's like being her son is dead and she's being like it's not even about you It's about your son. He's gonna take a lot of credit. Yeah She's broken and relishing in it. It's weird. It's really weird. It's probably the worst parts for her They made sarah sexist so that the film could go. Hey, look the film isn't sexist. We're progressive sarah was wrong because she's a misogynosal All of sarah's development all like learning how to fight Making sure she knew people who knew how to fight so she can sponge off their knowledge and then And then passing all that down to her son. That doesn't mean shit because uh, you know, she just gave birth to him Lee No effort The entire reason john is who he is and she's like jobs going to take all the credit It's like sarah, what the fuck? Yeah, yeah, because all their partners were like ex army guys or whatever And like she deliberately hooked up with these kind of people for this reason It's not it wasn't grandma. It wasn't just a fucking montage in one film that she immediately became this woman It was a whole history behind well after the first one What a cunt and they do the thing they're like Bitch They do the thing where like a big question has been asked why her and then she cuts in with that and then I would I would not terminate a Hero there's I really want to punch you with the face. Are they like the seed heads? It's like do you think maybe Do you think maybe danny's gonna be the important person and not someone she gives birth to you? I don't know. I don't know. I guess we'll have to find out as we progress. So Then comes the scene that I know jay's gonna want to talk about. I'll just set you up j. I'll I'll tee you up Oh, hang on. What is this? So they're talking to the guy who's gonna help them. Is this the fly? They're gonna they're gonna help them get get to where they need to go in a rush And he's he's starting to be like, hey man He has acting weird Like what is going on here? What do these two that you're traveling with did they do something evil? And so you might think it's danny's cousin the person help you you might think uh, you try something like, uh You know, we got in trouble with the police for x y reason Something that makes you sound like you're doing good that you've broken. You would lie, you know You wouldn't say oh, we're being hunt. We're we're being hunted by a machine from the future That's not what you would say to a human person. Which is what they say to this man and um, Obviously doesn't take it that well, but then jay take the floor I can't do it justice. I'm sorry. This is like this. This is the moment like Remember this is unrelated to what are you saying? Remember she just does it since yeah, she just decides to do this Um watching comedies. I don't think I've laughed this hard in the cinema for a long time Uh, and I had to I had to try and control my laughter to be out of consideration for the other three people in the cinema Uh, she fucking has just she's just playing with a knife that she has for some reason Um, and then there's a fly buzzing around her. So in slow motion she Slices the fly perfectly in half with her knife Because uh, and then everyone sees it and there's like holy shit. That was amazing instead. What just happened? They were like, there was a fly Apparently our eyesight is slow as the slow motion they're using in the movie Everyone saw the final cut of the film instead of actually what they would have seen I think what would be funnier if she did that and then the cousin just got a fly swan and got one Like just whacked me on the table. He was like, yeah, I could do it too. It was like I'm pulling it So she does that and the guy like does this little face moving like She must be a machine it literally cuts like seconds after that to them on their way. It's like that That's it You can't fly in half. You must be from the future So for reference because uh, I think we said this off stream This scene is very much Doing the exact same thing as a certain scene from t2 Where miles dyson had to be convinced that they were there was a machine from the future that came back to warn them About how they're gonna get killed how skynet has to be stopped ahead of time because it's a horrible thing Okay, how do you do that and they explain it to him and he doesn't really believe it. So then John gives him a knife. Arnie and says show him and he de-gloves himself and shows Is uh, well his exoskeleton Underneath is a kind of endoskeleton endoskeleton. Yeah And he's just it zooms up his blood all over it. He's just like listen to me very carefully Jesus fucking christ It's abrupt into the point and it's perfect. Yeah, it's a compelling argument I'd believe it. I'd be like, oh, you're a metal man. Okay. You're from the future Yeah, there's no bullshit trickery going on You you you hit a knife with a you hit a fly with a knife. It's like, okay strange How cool the movie thought that was like it was like it may have had like a sound effect I don't remember Imagine if imagine if they did some shit like that and t2 like, oh, I will show you how to terminate I can stop saying onions very fast I Could show you where's the flies you have any flies There are no flies we are out of options Watch how quickly I can make a salad you have a bad Do you have a badge? So uh Next up I want to highlight this because it really bothered me. Do you remember um evil terminator man? Was he kills everybody in this like security booth? And then he starts keeping track of our heroes while also Informing the american whatever. Yeah, so he's on the that on the u.s. Mexico border and the He's masquerading as one of the border patrol officers or whatever I Don't get how he managed to stay in there for that long without alerting anybody when all the other people are dead Like you'd think that the council's being unmanned would have some kind of No, no those people literally don't do anything Every time somebody came in to check on them. He just stabbed them in z but oh shit The other problem That's really stupid. I don't know if anyone else noticed it Oh He interfaces with the computer not by plugging himself into the computer or anything It's a good way to bring the keys out of the keyboard and putting his like liquid goo into the keyboard Why does every movie value the keyboard more than anything else? It's like go for the fucking cpu Even the hard drive would make more sense Like at least at first time he doesn't he fucking puts his gooey hands into a fucking server Yeah He like it's like they understand it and then they're like no, it's the keyboard that matters I just want to pull the usb out. He's like Apple one as well. It's like it's the We probably haven't seen uh the bad badinator For like 15 20 minutes up until this point because we're I don't I don't mind that that much Whatever he because the thing is he can't be that interesting of a villain because he's a machine which You can try and address going forward, but that is That is the way it works in terminator and terminator too. They can't have an interesting genial personality All he is is just he's coming That I want I want to you know, but they are trying to give him a personality at some point Whatever he's normally on scene though, they're just running away from him for like most of the film and then Well, yeah, then he has like one or two dumb lines and then that's about it really if they kept him like that If they kept him it was like a an emotionless Well, just don't let him talk, you know, then it would be really cool Just They because that's kind of like the t1000. He has a couple of lines, but I always felt like they They were like mission critical. It's like I need to see dr. Connor have a nice day If you took on whatever personality he needed So you don't like so like there's a scene where you buy that he has emotions and then you realize that he Yeah Yeah, more or I know you've seen darling Yeah, like that Like that. Um, yeah, like like good things So the you've highlighted another problem. We had another problem. I got another problem Uh, he looks at them through a drone and the the shot Goes him being like a mile above them at most Um, if you remember later when it's about a mile away from them, he's spotted and that's at night time But he's not spotted here Which is one problem. The other problem is do you remember what he does with the drone? Uh, later in the movie He bombs it or yeah, why isn't he doing it there then Well, he waits he waits until they've been captured anyway, and then below tries to blow him up You could argue with like, oh this is exactly where he wants them. Yeah, you could argue. It's like, oh, they can't move there It's like the fucking didn't work. He anyway He's he waited for them to be handcuffed and then he thought right this plus elements will probably should do it And then of course it did not still didn't do it If you think like surely he has access to more than one drone, right? I was about to say if you have access to one drone You probably have like a weaponized drone somewhere you can fucking use No Just bombing run them or shoot them You can literally infiltrate any like us air base or whatever take a harrier gel or a helicopter or some shit and just growing guns blazing, but There's no plan or anything Even though they talk about how ruthless and smart they are they they've Apartheid how they execute their plans. No, yeah, they're so stupid It's the whole announcing that they're there instead of just like taking the clear shot Like if you literally just if you just hid instead of going He would have killed them easily like several times. Remember how when they get surrounded by people with guns Um two things first They actually go to start shooting them like they put the gun like sarah and then you put the gun it's like guys You're like Oh, that thing you could win and then once they decide. Okay. Yeah, maybe we should surrender The uh not terminator says to sarah if I get separated from here you have to protect it It's like, uh, you're all arrested like It's gonna be able to do um But yeah, that's where so like they get handcuffed and they're about to be taken in by border patrol Because evil terminator alerted border patrol, which is Dang as the plan, but okay Yeah, when the terminators need like ice to like help like kill their targets It's a bit embarrassing as for how like It makes sense as a decision though, doesn't it? I'm okay with it. It just it's weird to me that um There wasn't more drones for him to try using He didn't try using it once they'd been placed into like a van or something Which probably would have been the best scenario if he was waiting instead of just going for it And then thirdly, how did it take him so long to get to the holding center? Like the by the time he gets there they're escaping. You know what I mean? Yeah I hate to tell that he always turned into the same dude Like it could have been they could have done really cool scenes where they're like looking around paranoid Yeah, I think I think that's a bit of a waste He's always gonna tune like to uh, choose into the same dude because like oh, I guess he just likes that face Next with the older models Literally all they can actually look like but he 1000 this kind of applies to as well um Only to a lesser degree because he only fights them in like the beginning and then he does actually switch to like the security guard in the hospital which isn't to um Wearing the helmet and the and the aviators and stuff. I don't know this this is a bit to go over that as well But you know no film is perfect, right? Sort of maybe Yes, I can think of a perfect film name it is it stragg Catwoman I think Catwoman isn't a specific dish Yeah, but yeah, there's not degrees of perfect. They're just both perfect Uh, either way I'm missing a meme here Yes, you're missing it. How dare you not understand how hilarious was They're captured. They're all in captured worlds and they're just waiting to get processed Sarah gets identified and they Take her away. I guess I'll get to more of that later and um Fucking main character tries to explain they're being hunted by terminators from the future Like why he does that all the time? That's how one move she's so dumb Oh insane you sound all you have to do all you have to do is say this Guy is trying to kill me and look out for this guy who looks like this. Who's trying to kill me That's it. No instead robots from the future To believe me like right next to some crack junkie on the floor or some things like I think I think my if I was like trying to figure out something right, okay So like if I genuinely believed that there were robots from the future trying to kill me one of my first thoughts would be okay Am I delusional here? Like am I hallucinating this shit? And then if my instinct was oh, I need to tell everyone that this is happening because they'll believe me I'd be going Okay, clearly. I am insane Oh my god, this reminds me of uh something from fright night when I don't know if you guys seen that movie that Horror movie about a kid who lives next door to a vampire or whatever. Well, he tells the cops That instead of telling the cops. Oh my next door neighbor. He killed that girl who was on the news Is that saying that he says my my next door neighbor is a fucking vampire. You gotta kill him The kills again like you fucking idiot just say The missing girl was last seen at his house. Go check it out. I think this guy murdered her You did not have to say all that So fucking stupid. Yeah um So evil terminators trying to get into the place just to finish the job Uh Good to not terminator is on a hospital bed thing And they like trying to examine her and they're like, whoa, look how tizmy all of her biology is and then they find her Syringes like strapped to her back Nice body search. Wow idiots you left this order and you might be thinking as a person She's just like what then you're like, oh because she needs those Because of your stupid ailment that doesn't go anywhere really so this is where the worst one liner in the film happens as well Oh, which one Which one who said you could look at my private parts Oh, oh my god Yeah, and I think it ties into another line that she says to arnie later But like i'm not i'm just gonna wait until y'all get to that part Oh, you can you can reference that now if you want what is it because i'm curious Well, he said she says something to him. Well, he asked her well, he says I'm a cyber cyber dying systems one old model 101 He says that and then he asked her also. What kind of terminator are you when she says Well, no, are you do you want to tell me what kind of terminator are you he asked and and she says No, like in a bitter Okay, that reminds me of like i'm who knows i'm i could be wrong, but that reminds me of some tumblr shit like This reminds you of the thank you very much Like if someone wanted to ask you what your gender was they like no they're like It's like my gender Also, she uh, she broke out of her restraints and tackled thingy before the explosion and then they attached the same fucking restraints to her Like and she breaks out of them again. It was like, oh fuck. Okay Yeah, why bother You're also talking about bad lines. You're also thinking about uh, forgetting about the one The detainee's not prisoners The people who are looking at her she beats them to unconsciousness She has this guy looking at her with like absolute fear And she just like fucking slams his head into a wall. It's like, okay Bear in mind, right when when when arnie does this in t2 This is almost a smirk on the audience's face because he's a terminator. He doesn't know any better He's just trying to knock him all out so he can get his job done. He's like a full-on human being Who are supposed to be like, yay you but she keeps beating innocent people Like your future's not important to get lost Yeah, it's totally like a message scene because there's a there's also a part where they say Uh, we're like they were the we're the I guess the corrections officers, whatever Literally described the cells as cages Did you just assume I modeled them? It was just really suspect it's like it's clearly. Oh, yeah, right. Sorry message theme So that's one of those lines in the film where I was like, oh Dude some social poetry. So the idea is that we've got a bunch of people who tried to come over the border illegally They're obviously in these holding pens or whatever waiting for transfer or processing Depending on what they're gonna do And so she's like, how do I release the prisoners because she wants to get thinking out and then she's like, they're not prisoners They're detainees Yeah, can we just talk about how insane that is? They just cut her open. So he's she has like some body armor below her skin some fucked up syringes Then she just beats two or three people before she goes to the to the whamen So we're the prisoners Detainees like you're about to die. What's the problem? Yeah, I know that she wouldn't want to correct it. She's just be like Like just tell her the way maybe you live I'm sorry. This is bad for our brand. You can't call them that Can we talk about like the implications of that line though like the the private stuff as they play a lot of us a joke like Either that's serious or or don't put it in like stop. She also Uh gets the information she needs from that person and just punches her out Yeah, she's just out and it's like wow Just a total twat throughout the entire move You killed several police at the beginning Yeah, like That's the first thing she does If she was a terminator I'd be fine with it But like you're a soldier You're told like and you you aren't you're on the side of human beings. So naturally you don't really kill people Human other human beings that much like, you know, you're mostly about killing terminators. You're you're taught to hate terminators And so like she's just going around like wasting people It's just being a cunt for no reason. Yeah, no exactly because she she's there to protect the future of one person But everyone else is like I'm like if there are some people where it's justified like, okay, like clearly maybe if they were, you know left Fully able to do whatever, you know, maybe they would have stopped her or tried to stop her but like especially with like the the woman who was like, um, working in the fucking The detainees woman like no reason to punch her lights out. She's just like, I don't like you Exactly. They're already afraid of you is handcuff people like we'll just you know tie them in any way. Stop killing people He's supposed to be the hero I got even after a while like in Terminator 2 like arnie was like he took john's orders I was like, okay, I don't kill everybody because you know, sometimes you just can't go around killing everybody and This human bitch doesn't seem to Get understand If john was here, he's like you can't go around killing people to this new girl. She's like, why not? Because it's bad he's like why It's like, are you sure you're not the Terminator? I think we can just all be glad that the dawn doesn't work for border control Doesn't need more of this That's what he's he's like he's hard down on his luck. He's like, oh, well there's one job I think that'll take me I'm just gonna work his border control not not a permanent thing You know, I'd like to get on to back to my charity like back to helping the orphans More of this point is totally invalid because john tron john tron john conna had to tell arnold not to kill anyone No, i'm referring to all the people that arnie's fucking up Doesn't as far as we never get a blatant kill. I don't think from This woman in this film and neither do we get one from arnie after john's told not to kill people But he does beat the shit out of several people He like slams people into walls and hits them over the head with shit like um, but the thing is He's like cannot kill so it translates. It's like well Like they make a joke out of it in the film He shoots a guy both of his like legs that he's like I didn't kill him No, he didn't kill him again Uh, but we're here. There's no sense of like it's binary with a robot It's like as long as the fucking heart is still beating. I guess it'll be fine But with her she's just like I have fucking hate people It's like if um if you got to the end of that and like you were told no Survived you're like fucking really holy shit Um, yeah, I think they just don't care that fire characters like to make that like significant of enough of a uh Of a thing that they're aware of or like to include they're just like, yeah, whatever You know bad guys appear on screen pew pew pew pew whatever they're on the floor, you know Grown it on the floor or something job done, you know, so now I want to highlight uh, john sir connor is a 60 plus year old woman who is kind of a little bit Twig like in this film and that's fine. She's 60. I don't expect to be a bodybuilder But she's walking with these two. Well, it's actually in the shot. You can see three guys But, um, it's two when the lights start to flicker She kicks one in the chest and he falls down some steps and apparently that knocks him out because he's gone Yeah, I don't think that's how that works, especially for someone who's a trained agent, but okay fine. Yeah, he's dead You can get unlucky Okay, so she was lucky. Let's put it that way Lucky with him getting knocked out and then she like kicks the other guy She's within like the foot and then she does this move Where her hand's a hand cuff behind her back He manages to get high enough to lock his head between her chest and arm if you know what I mean And she's actually like chokes him out and it's just like wow She was hella struggling like Holy shit Saracada, so I'll give it a pass, but what the hell like pretty All right. Yeah, we'll just let it go And then a good Terminator not Terminator person releases like every single immigrant person Um, I don't know that that's gonna end well because I'm pretty sure if they all run around the security area They might get shot, but uh Well, yeah, she causes a riot than she is. Well, it's not really her like that's not what she cares about though Oh, well, no, I'm saying from like the film's perspective about how they're prisoners You know, I mean like the meta element like you let them all free in the same way that rose Let's all the fucking people free the mother the horse is free in TLJ people. No, she lets the horses Proud But in this film as well, I'm like, I don't think that's gonna end well Which is kind of dumb because like oh, she's supposed to show she cares about people But then she doesn't care about people. She doesn't she only cares about the person she's supposed to protect Well, like Jay just said I'm pretty sure she does it just to cause a distraction. I don't think she actually cares Oh, okay. Yeah It's not moral. It's no moral good in it. It's it's a means to an end for her They probably did survive though because the the terminator killed all of the guards Oh, yeah one point Yeah, one point the like cops or the uh officers are trying to like grab him like a like a rugby tackle or something Because he's just he's butchering all of them and they're like we can't do fuck all against him Um, do you remember how when he's jumping across like the roof area and then The guard that she was talking to earlier sees him and she sprints towards him with like a baton And I remember being like what in the world you attempt what are you doing here? And she goes to him and she's gets stabbed out. You're like, oh, this is fucked up right away I don't really know what the hope was there. I don't know what she expected, but that's what she did Uh, I will get to kill. Ah, yeah, she wanted the xp. I think Rev nine man. They level up a few times Yeah, he gets grabbed to this point. Sorry. So go on. Oh, well, I'm gonna carry on with the thing. So we Uh, I thought you would carry on All right, all right then Yeah, as I said, he gets a load of army dudes just grab him. They don't seem to do anything else They just want to grab him, but then they get stabbed like that's probably the only time he seems to have the tentacle Yeah, I think he just creates like stabby things That's what I mean. Yeah Yeah, he's just doing it because he can well you have to kill about the red shirts and he doesn't The reason why I'm harping on the tentacle thing right is so the when he stabs one person and then he looks at another person Like oh, I want to kill you. It's like man. If you just had some extra appendages like maybe a tentacle He's full tentacle The bigger problem they're trying to pander to the to the hentai crowd Yeah, I see it as the opposite. It's like they had plenty of opportunities for tentacles The bigger problem is they just didn't have any guns most of the time We just he didn't come in and quit for no real reason. It's annoying really Yeah, you should have taken gun guns and put them in himself Remember how he's like running up to them with the helicopter and they just escape? They're like two minutes away from him, but let's say five to be gentle Um, and he just stares at them. I was like, why don't you do a thing like make a thing and throw it Throw your goopiness at them Throw a spear made of your goop at them Show me your advanced technology you But he just he's just like fine I look for my I know when I've been beaten over the um Remember the bit where you like appeals to the southerners like there's like these two texas agents with cowboy hats Hit up. He's like, oh, yeah, man. Ever ever thanks weirdo. I thought I was gonna die so much chaos Okay, great my whole life like in the last five minutes like oh Jesus fucking Christ shut your mouth You might be like, why is he doing that? It's like, oh, well, maybe to just appeal to him a bit Then he goes, hey, you guys know where I can get a chopper. It's like In my head, I was like, surely you need clearance to get a job Also, you're just coming from a military base. You should don't want to chop Yeah Well, if you say by clearance if all you have to do is if you just like Knew a pilot or found a pilot you could touch him and then morph into him and like his He would clone his like ID card as well with the camera. That would be cool to see That of him for some reason trying to speak texan to texan It's just a callback to Terminator 2 when uh, the c-1000 steals this cop's bike. That's all it is. Yeah But a chopper, you know, it's not as easy to steal like a fucking car or a bike You have to get like, I don't know whatever You never you never stole the chopper before It's still better than Terminator Genesis where the other Terminator just spontaneously finds one like immediately Oh, yeah, yeah, that's what They don't actually show how they acquired it. He just gets it. It's hilarious He's got a motorcycle I'm fit on already Oh wait, we're talking about the same thing. We're talking about um, well when we say When I say chopper, I'm talking about like helicopter Oh, yeah, I was talking about the same from Genesis Yeah, yeah, when you so if you remember in Genesis They like all get into a helicopter and fall off the edge and then get away And there's like, I don't remember there being another chopper on that fucking rooftop But even if there was he like appears right behind them immediately. There wasn't one It's just funny. He's like oh there he is I definitely noticed when we watched it like two days ago where there wasn't one they just Pulled that out of their ass and he pursued them straight afterwards Like there's nothing for reference, right? So this is the part where we turn up to arnie's house This is the business been giving here the coordinates for the terminus. He gets up from watching the football Oh, no, here we go. Does he watch the football? Really, he's analyzing the tactics of each team. It's like they're gonna lose Then he just banks on a lottery every day Like okay. All right Bit weird this whole bit is weird though. So yeah, he opens the door And if you've seen the trailer sarah's like, oh my god, you piece of shit and tries to shoot him, but then uh This is why she gets really intolerable sarah. This is the one and the same guy who killed john famous machine The first question was when she saw him was like he killed john's like, how do you know? You could like a middle. How does she know it's just the same model and by the way sarah We've done this before you've met a different model Uh, not killed him because he's a good you if she shook hands with him. So now you just hate the ball again I thought you got over your racism She's irrational. Yeah, I guess she just figured out that it's the same She assumes that womb and bad womb and bad terminator That's it. That's her assumption Didn't they change the timeline and t2 like when they were on it mexican vacation or vacation or whatever in the beginning of the movie And so So wait, is that the same terminator? Yeah, that happens after terminator too Yeah, but like is that the terminator that comes after john in the beginning of dark fate. Is that the same fucking one? They dropped into the lava That's where the we get a lore dump again. We're nearly there. Uh, I guess all Unless anyone else can think of anything it's like all I I remember is She explains like we need his help and then sarah like goes meh and walks off to a log And there's this shot Well, that's the thing I did to alex. Is it like oh, she's pouted She's like and uh Yeah Walks up to her and she's like she's she I don't think it was written very well But she says like I worked really hard to make it so there was like no pictures of john But now i'm forgetting his face and the whole reason was to try and prevent the terminators from ever being able to find him If he had no face But I was like he went to a school Yeah They had photos of him in the foster parents's house the t-1000 had one like I don't think you're gonna be able to erase his face without all she mentions is not taking photos of him, right? She doesn't do anything else Like why would I don't know why she thought like sarah con was really smart Yeah, I thought uh, how many terminators did they kill like together like she and she and john I don't remember how many she's did she say that killed more Not with john I don't know. Did you say like at some point they they caught up and found us Can we bring up the question at this point? How many terminators have come back that she apparently gets texts regularly as a terminator round? Like what are they sent back for? They're trying to kill danny because all of them Well, well from this timeline after john gets killed Uh Legion now becomes the replacement and the target for legion is danny. So they start sending Not terminators, but revs. Whatever instead. Well, you say revs. This is the first one They probably will make a whole bunch of movies out of this I'm pretty sure the other ones were still like the terminators We know because she says it's sometimes like they came from a future that already failed or something From what annie says apparently in t2 and i'm talking pretty much in the same timeline exactly Uh, they sent back a fucking cluster of terminators like a whole bunch in loads of different places What we saw in t2 was them dealing with one of them And that uh a whole bunch more were coming Then they went off the grid and hid away in some distant beach there and gone Unfortunately, annie found them and fucking just killed him with a shotgun Yeah, is that implied in t2 that there were a cluster of them sent back or is that a new thing from this? Oh, well, i'm saying that if that if the case is that they were sent back to kill john Then and and the way they look in on that beach Looks as if we just left t2 like they look exactly the same Yeah, the way and this is like often they're like the same black tank top But they yeah, they send another annie model back to kill them because it's not the same one that sacrificed himself or Oh That's the thing like this. Well when when they were bringing back the annie model Feel the resentment that that um that in t2 the the friendly annie killed himself It's like, can we not just use that one, please? Why why did you have to get rid of him? Well, this is they they piss on t2 for They're well in the new the new generation or rather I honestly feel like I honestly feel like they're only like they're only like a slight provocation from going This is the one from t2 that was friendly. He just survived. Okay. He just survived. He was like a time travel There's also apparently there's only terminators be sent back but no one to um Stop to protect to protect Maybe it protects the sense because the whole thing was they were about to sky was about to lose They sent a terminator back Then they lose And they sent a guy or a machine or whatever they have in their timeline for this round of movie To protect someone for some reason there's only a terminator sent back What's with the protector? I mean just don't bother. It's like oh fuck It never made a great amount of sense, but now it makes even less sense being the it's like, okay So the humans knew that the terminators sent a terminator back and so they send kyle reese back to protect her It's like you guys maybe you should send a lot of dudes kyle reese might not be enough But fine, we'll hand wave that and then t2 does the same thing and again you're like you have access to terminators Maybe okay fine hand wave that too But this film is like the bad guys said fucking loads of terminators like you guys already said the one arty really? Yeah Yeah Yeah, like in like long gaps and I subscribe to the theory that they sent someone back, but they were really fucking terrible Yeah, they like he got lost I don't know where they are. She deleted all the photos of john. How am I supposed to find them? They'll settle down Did all the photos and records of sara get deleted because if not That's a good point actually Yeah, no one no one knows that their timeline was sara khanis Which is weird to me because she basically did like a whole bunch of shit in this timeline Like killing lots of terminators. Like is that did it just not happen? I'm just so confused by the time We brought this up when watching them metal did but uh from the chat at pime the orce Australia maybe I don't but it says uh wouldn't you get like half a dozen terminators to naked hug on the time machine platform and send them back at the same time I said that yes, I just fold them into each other or something just set like a whole cluster actual cluster of them Isle implies the picture he has is the only one so what i'm talking about is um sara says She didn't take any pictures of john in order for there to be no records of john in order to escape Determinators forever if they never know what john looks like Problem is that there are already records of john because he went to a school and like I said the t1000 fucking got pictures of him So i'm pretty sure it's possible and secondly all they need to do is find sara and they'll find john And there are plenty of records of her she went to a fucking mental asylum, so Yeah, that makes no sense at all But that's not a shock considering this movie Yeah, they throw this kind of shit in but they don't care enough to like make sure it actually makes sense. They're just like Yeah Feel a bit Remember terminator two Yeah, you don't like that film, but yeah, remember it So I guess we're at the point now where uh the writers wanted to bring arnie from terminator two back because he's awesome How do we do it because he's dead well Because he may as well be him at this point in the movie and you like so how did he get that and it's like well What happened was according to arnie He shot and killed john with a shotgun Then dropped the gun and walked off because well his mission is done. What does the robot do then? He bumped into a girl Who was being beaten by her? Beyonce husband boyfriend, whatever And uh, so he stopped all that And uh, he's he lives with them See stop laughing people think i'm joking i'm not joking That's why it's so funny. Yeah, they asked if he loves the person and he's like I feel compassion for them or something And they're like how and he says I learned compassion Oh Do you do you love them a conscience? Not like a human could do yes He gets asked at one point uh about love and he says I can't love like a human can and It's worse that way like he basically makes a point about how not being able to love is bad I'm not kidding. I I gave a very fair Uh recant of the fucking plot like that's the thing that he says that's all the way No, no bullshit exaggeration and then she then she comes Comes and he gets like food and whatever and then she doesn't know does she you know? I was like what? Yeah, he's all right. Yeah, it's a movie itself. Of course. Okay. She didn't realize your 400 pounds or whatever it was I don't know. I'm pretty sure he weighs more than 400 pounds as well. I think that's bullshit I don't know. I don't know what what they actually said, but it's like I can skeleton of like steel Like I don't know the Well, do you remember the third one when they tried pulling the firemen tried pulling them off the debris and like four of them They'd be able to pull a 400 pound man. Fuckin doesn't buggy way more. He's around 400 pounds I Like you you could pull somebody who weighed 400 pounds you could at least like pull over like in a direction if they're standing Yeah, but he weighs more than 400 pounds. They're definitely definitely he's gotta weigh at least a ton I mean, I think that was a throwaway line from t3, but that that's gotta be about around what he weighs Yeah, because the firemen couldn't lift him and there was like four of them or something like that Well, then yeah, so either way the film Goes out of his way to point out this plot hole because there's no fucking way He could live with a family for 40 years and they have no idea But wait, it's not even 40 is it? It's not even relevant. Make her know that he's turned me Yeah, I mean we wouldn't matter if she knew he was a terminator. She just get over it Get over it. I don't know. They'd have to have a few lines to explain that To be fair like every time the terminator would go in a car or whatever like by all things They shouldn't be able to drive the cars or bikes like this. They should be wrecking this is the suspension Oh, yeah, that's true It weighs everything down. That's how it should work. Um, I mean Imagine imagine arnold like terminator arnold is piping down a bitch I Mean Yeah, I was about to things I was what I got it was just our our Our relationship isn't physical. It's like Right. Well, I was gonna say you say you saved her from your abuse of husband friend, whatever It's gonna be people in the audience who still don't know what we're talking about. I'll re-explain all right So, okay, Arnie has a wife slash girlfriend person and he's raising a son with her This kid. How old did you say the kid is guys? In in this and like in When I catch up and introduce him he's like gotta be like 14 he seems like a 14 year old around then However, we're supposed to believe that he met this person straight after t2, which is like 97 And this kid was already like four years old or whatever and so fast forwards fucking 20 24 years or whatever and apparently the kid grew 10 years It's like, okay. Yeah. Yeah the the timeline is Fuck and um, and yeah, so they asked him the obvious question of how the fuck don't they know you're a terminator And his answer is well, how do they not know you're a machine? Let's put it that way No, no guys, Arnie didn't have the kitty and he Fostered it. Oh, no. Yeah. It's not his kid. It's not his kid. Sorry. Yeah They it's not they don't do breeding shit No, I was because I was about to get to that they say like how didn't you notice and the the implication of the question Is that if you have sex with Arnie? Surely you'd notice and he says like our relationship our relationship isn't physical And that's the only way you'd notice. He was a time Fucking him. There are a bazillion other ways to notice this shit You're not him sitting on the toilet taking a shit and just wrecking How would you hey Arnie? Did you just fall through the floor? No I'm doing grapes. It's yeah, it's ridiculous, but lucky's like that's one of the You know how okay, so do you know how it's like really like it wouldn't change anything in the story if he was like She knows I have explained to her I am from the future and I want to help her raise her boy I'm going to help you raise a little pepper I reckon the only reason they didn't have Simpler like thing that made sense that she just knew Is so that he could have so they could have the joke where he where he gets shot and goes My wife will not have an explanation for this Right What's that lightly pay off they could draw from it? Yeah, this will be hard to explain Leticia just bought me this shirt See they could have had that joke they could have just said oh my wife bought me this shirt And then they would have had the joke and like she could still have known that he was a terminator There we go. We fixed this bit. It's a good film now So yeah, then they get over all the pleasantries and they start trying to come up with a plan and this part Really fucking bothered me in terms of just trying to write drama for the sake of drama, but um What is it? uh Sarah's plan is to make a kill box and drop the bait in the middle of the kill box and then remove here When the guy gets there and just shoot the shit out of him whatever and it's like, okay And then um other girl's plan is to just run away. I think right that's she's just like we should just run Which is insane Well, yeah, but that's this is the thing right? Those are two plans and there's there's criticisms and things you can do with them But instead of just saying I believe we should run. She's like no, I will not make her bait We will run She has to be like She gets strangely possessive out of nowhere Oh, fuck yeah, she says I'll drop her in a well or some shit, right? Um, but my point is like instead of being like oh kill box isn't a great idea She's like fucking bites Sarah's head off and then the the main girl has to be like calm down We just talk about this rationally. It's like why is everyone so angry? She'll allow it. We just started talking Yeah, then adi's just like kill box is correct like oh okay Like this emp plan they come up with it just seems to be like that's the best plan not this kill box thing and you're like No, that's a part of it. You're like, no, no, you don't need a kill box. You need to find him Well, so once they once they're free from the detention center That's the next move is to meet up with the With sarah's contact who is just like the most fucking far-fetched bullshit like oh, yeah, that's next. Yeah Yeah, other than just to quickly mention the sarah's like i'm gonna kill you just before this movie ends, okay? And on he's like, okay Yeah, I have a family that I count by 30 march, but you could kill me He's very odd in this film Just seems off. You're like, all right He's meant to be very funny though Right, he runs a drapes business Yeah, yeah One line in the film I found out ironically funny and he like is trying There's a joke where he's trying to explain how some people try and put colors together And he had a one guy who tried to do a thing and then he was like no you cannot do that You need polka dots at the butterflies. It's like a little girl. Yeah, stop it I didn't know how to feel about that. I didn't laugh I guess In a movie where the fucking terminator had been done justice. I think that line would have been funny It was just random. They just dropped it out of nowhere Like the scene changes and they're at the where they need to be meeting this guy and there's old drapes purple drapes green drapes kebab drapes shrimp drapes To me, I was like, oh, they're doing like he's he does certain relatable human things because else we They it I don't know. It's very constructed to me. It's like of course he he runs a drapes business drapes drapes joke He was just they just had to get him in the movie. That's all it is It was very very awkward to be as a whole But they agree to do the kill box and the first thing they need to do is get an emp because apparently What do they say an emp will do just Fuck him up completely. Yeah I think that's accurate to be fair. No, no, I'm not saying that I'm kind of getting out like wow like It seems easy. Yeah, like just work on getting an emp like get out of the state maybe Run somewhere get an emp go underground literally or something just get safe make an emp I don't know. It feels like there are better ways to do all of this, but the plan is to um Oh, yeah, there's that joke as well that he has a shit ton of guns Because I'm from texas. Oh, they hated that one. That was awful. Please kill me. Oh, yeah That one you hated I hated it was no It's like as soon as um, as soon as we swore all the guns, I was like, oh, he's gonna say Texas is some shit and then he makes another line. He's like he does another line He says like he was eventually gonna fall into a dystopian Thing and I would need these weapons to protect my family because I am not a huge fucking robot um and then And then and then like I'm like, oh cool. They didn't do the Texas line. I mean he's like also this is Texas I just want to talk about that point as well He says he needs these guns to protect his family But as soon as Sarah corner and her little gang of friends show up He did This is my time now. You remember we have peace out Yeah, you got an abandon your house and me. Goodbye. And he's like, oh, yeah I guess I don't need those guns anymore I've calculated that there's a 74 percent chance that human like human civilization will collapse I'm just gonna leave my family to that. Bye You can go now you can have sex again the compassion The compassion thing is I can't I can't believe it like he saved her from his Abuse of husband race to her child and she didn't get horny once in like 20 years Right like this like big buff like big buffed Arnold Schwarzenegger Like holding it holding it down I'm picturing scenes where he's like he's like the perfect husband in every way shape and form that she's like, do you want her? He's like, nope You're not gonna get me this pipe I am like a candle I'm smooth down there So then there's the whole uh the thing I forgot the trading sequence. Do you remember this? Oh Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna give I'm gonna give a summary. There's only one comment. We all have to make I'm sure but There's a bunch of targets and uh, they give main girl a pistol and she's shooting like shit She can't hit the target rip and they're like, hey Square your shoulders keep your balance forward do it all these these stupid ideas about how to shoot a gun Fuck all of them and then um, you still can't hit it And so the the main not terminator girl says hey and she gives her a fucking like is it a shotgun or a rifle? It's it's some Shotgun oh, is it Sarah? I thought it was not Yeah, yeah Yeah, listen because she remembers uh a terminator's killed your family. You have what you do I was gonna get to that. It's so funny That's the payoff so Like like she's putting this thing to her shoulder Like for the first time ever bear in mind. She's having trouble with a fucking pistol Even like even with the recoil element of it and um, sarah hands through this Fuck off big-ass weapon. She shoulders it and she aims at the two there's two targets And she just fires fires and hits both of them and you might be like well, wait What uh, you know what gave her like how did she do that? What gave her the accuracy? It's like well, sarah said imagine this thing killed your whole family No, she doesn't have to imagine it literally just did like Remember how your family is dead Remember how your family's dead. Okay. No, I can shoot guns Yeah, it's just like a terminator just could have all your all your family. What would you do to them? Say I'm bam bam bam hit all of them. It's like, oh, that's not how it works Going to be real. I think trauma would make me worse Get really pissed off and irrational and you should be able to just think clearly The weird part is do you remember sarah like smicks and walks off and it's like Yeah, that PTSD is kicking in soon, bitch I know that feeling I'm fucking imagining like a real uh, you know, you're you're going to learn to shoot and you're instructed like goes. Okay. So, uh You traumatize Also, uh, sonja said three three six nonexist now. It's like, yep, you do nonexist three four five and genesis Or oh wait. No three four genesis. Okay name. I feel bad for three because three is unironically better Uh Actually, I think salvation might be better as well. I think salvation is probably the best of the sequels Yeah, it's true because at least they went in another direction and it it And I mean it's PG 13, but it's passable, you know, I Give it a thumbs, okay I'm okay Like, you know the first scene of um dark fate where all of the terminators rising out of the That Can can I see that like just that whole film what you liked it just because there were terminators If well, you know, it's it's something different being done in the terminator dangling keys jay All it is But I don't just want to see t2 again, but with lamins. Well, that's not your only two options You can do other things Fucking okay rising out of the ocean But those are the only two options I was shown Um Oh, by the way, did we talk more about the whole that he Grew a conscience that well we mentioned that to a conscience. What can we say apparently? He says that um, so we'll have to establish this in t2 Yeah, that's what I'm getting at to lean He has to get the chip removed from his head and put back in now One thing I remembered is There is two cuts or at least there's at least two cuts of terminator two I can't remember if that scene is in One of the two cuts Oh So whether or not, I think I remember seeing it. I think it it is in one It's in the extended one or whatever the hell you call it. I remember seeing it But uh, it's important because the idea is When skynet send out their terminators they have the ability to learn but there's it's shut off because you don't want them Align and he says that you need to Do a thing with his chip in order to let him learn and they do it and then he starts learning in the film, which is fun Really good part of the film In this film he says that once he killed john He walked off and he met those people and he started learning about compassion And then he actually like grew one and you're just like I don't um And if someone wanted to say like, ah, well, they pulled his chip out and put it back in It's like no, they don't know he's a terminator. So that's not possible And he can't do it himself because he literally turns himself off to do it. So Yeah, he was learning without being able to learn and he also just grew a conscience and um Maybe not a conscience, but compassion is the word they use in the film No, they literally say they describe it as a conscience in the film Yeah, the power of love flipped the switch Involuntarily that's what happened. It's so dumb like unbelievably dumb And no, that's why he felt bad about john This is what new drotic told us on the fucking expanse efap and we just laughed at it But it's 100 true He felt bad about john And so he started sending coordinates to sara to help her kill terminators And he said the reason was To give her a purpose because without a purpose life is meaningless Yeah, he said like raising Raising a son of his own helped him understand what she went through If I told you If I told you a t800 was gonna come back in time Murdered john just after t2 finished and then get his son of his own and feel bad because he knows what sons are like I just feel like you're fucking kidding me Oh It's like fan fiction according to tray chester there are three cuts theatrical special extended encoder The switching of the chip happens in the specialty Well, yeah, that's that's the one my dad has on dvd So it's like the best version a bunch of extra bits in it The lead scene I haven't seen that one is not technically canon then in Fine The compassion thing is still dumb anyway. I mean, yeah, it's one thing to be able to learn stuff, but to be able to Spontaneously create compassion. I don't even understand how that works. Yeah. I mean, he's a fucking toaster He under he should he under It's fine. You should he should understand How love works, but like the mechanics of it and not like he shouldn't be able to feel it Shouldn't be able to feel bad about what's the point of t2. He's like, I know why you cry I'm gonna come do And it's really sad to us but to to hit me. It's just like, oh man, I get you're sad, but I mean I gotta go Um, uh, yeah, it's sad for john, but whatever fine. Um, it's dumb either way, but maybe less dumb than I thought Depending on I mean, it should be considered canon that bit's great When john convinces sarah not to kill it Mm-hmm Um, so yeah, anything else in the um in the nice little house in annie's house with Oh, I like the part when sarah's like when they're when they're trained when they're training her with the gun She pulls out the big one. It says all right. Let's it's time to get real We see pistols don't really do anything Well, you know, it was just funny to me because it's so easy Also my uh, the fit there's probably actually one of my favorite lines for some reasons when um, he says I go by carl And she goes, I'm not gonna call you fucking carl Oh, yeah, that was funny Okay, they called him carl. That's like one of our meme names Well, yeah, it's it's my fucking father's name for christ sake so awkward carl carl That kills people carl So then evil terminator gets to their house The way he's able to track them is they have a photo of the car they use on their fridge I think they would have thought about that But uh, wait, I didn't notice that Basically he gets to their house because I guess he how do you figure out they were at that house? um That's why Has all of the why well, there's the thing he looks at the fridge and there's the van on it and he's like And he finds them like immediately after and you just think like wouldn't it be a smart move to have ditched that van second they could Instead of going straight to which brings us to the next bit. So this is the plot summary of this Sarah carner and this is Reinforced by arty. He just says this is the case. He has an old friend in the military who's a major She's gonna ask him for an EMP That's just how that works. She does Like that that part of the point you're doing that you may as well just I already have one of those in my park Yeah, she may as well have just had an EMP because it's so dumb But I mean he in fairness j. He is used for more than one thing this major piece Yeah But I do love the fact that he shows up to like commit treason to like exchange the other give of the EMP And he just shows up in his army clothes like So yeah, so people understand the scope of this they are about I want to say five miles away from some form of a military outpost um, and he's in his military garb providing Illegally a weapon to civilians as a favor to a friend And he says that he shouldn't be doing this because it's like super treason But he's just dressed as a major. It's just hilarious and uh He's like being like, oh who's that a bodyguard and he Talks about like grapes again I can't remember and then and then the other girl starts talking and this major guy's just like, huh Those people I've never met before just here. Okay This is the one this is the one line in the film that I thought was funny like unironically fly which one When uh, the military contacts sees arnie is like, oh So, okay, the one line in the film that I found unironically Was when uh, the military guy is like, oh, is this your bodyguard after seeing arnie and arnie just says I do drapes Yeah I Can see why it worked. It's okay No, I I laughed at the effort or the attempt to do it. I I'll say right. I I think can we agree? It's the best joke in the film I don't know. I prefer the car one. I'm not gonna call you fucking car I like the one where he says also i'm extremely funny. Yeah Yeah, like Um So the major guy just gets shot by evil terminator because evil terminator is already here Um Well because they don't want to make have another character and um as he's chasing them They're just shooting down and stuff and then major guy puts a call into the outpost to set up a Like a an airplane for our heroes While simultaneously trying to stop evil terminator from getting to them He just does all of this and you're like, wow You even know what's happening right now Even like know who this guy is and why this is that he just yeah, he just gets the military fully involved. It is it's really weird like I don't know how else to really to really frame that it's just like it just happens I get access. This is the thing. There's so many set pieces to do Um, and this film is not exactly long like it's two hours like All of these different huge moments. So they have to jump jump jump and um He does get shot Which is why he's like all of a sudden like, you know rushing everything and doing all that shit But it's not well like surely his career is over Well, yeah It should have been taking me to a hospital and then he could have gone. Oh, yeah I got shot by a mugger and then job done Yeah, this one kind of means like not having normal reactions. It's like he knows it's a terminator That this is a desperate situation you need full force for it's like, how do you know? Oh, yeah, yeah, he just fucking believes that the threat is a robot from the future Like immediately in a few minutes all of that doesn't matter anyways. Well, do you remember um the helicopter like gets Like it's some it sort of so the reason why they're able to get into the airplane without getting fucking killed by Evil terminator is because he like gets trapped his helicopter gets trapped on like a tire with a chain on it remember that Yes, I couldn't really make out what it was but it was really weird He's like it gets tethered to it by that and it's just like what it's and it's like yep That's the thing that happens. Yeah. Okay. And it's obviously to just give our heroes a bit more time Um, which they do they get into the airplane. He tries to get on it Is there anything else I'm missing? I think that's just it No, they drive into the base. They You know try to stop him but fail I I mentioned it to you guys, but it's a it's a very minor positive Um, Arnie sees him coming and it shows us his visor and it's it looks just like it does original. Oh, yeah, like yeah Yeah, it is it's HUD shows up like that. Yeah, it's because all of the new terminator HUDs are all like super high Back advances. They probably would be it's just the Arnie's Good job guys. You nailed that Of my new portion of the film Oh, I just figured out if I fucked it in bring it back, uh Uh old but not obsolete Oh god, yeah We get it arnold you're still virile And so yeah, we get to this like bigger aircraft carrier vehicle carrier thing they're driving off and um Like they have a fight but people terminator loses and uh You could argue it's almost worse that he that he gets onto there and then falls off because he falls off into the middle of like what could be like a suburb. He just hits some guy's shed Yeah He's he's he's on his own and hit a shed that's that's it and he gets out of it That's when he delivers that line. We've been talking about where he just says just sorry about the shed Sorry about your shed. Yeah, sorry about your shed. It would almost be funny if you literally said nothing It's so nonchalant and it's like why is he like like this? Yeah I don't really get that Like he doesn't have to like kill them. He can't just walk off and like unless they like try stopping him and then like He just stabs them or whatever. I'm fine with that. He doesn't have to just murder for the sake of it But he's also just like kind of like he's gonna he's got humor into it. It's like Okay So i'm just gonna have to drop out at this point. Um i'm exhausted. So i'll see you all at some point later Not like 20 minutes left. No, i'm i'm i'm dying. Wow Not a real tomato fan. I see hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Let me get let me mix up like insulin and like We know it is legit. Um Abusals. Yeah, see you dude. See you Hi What a massive. I know so Like i said, they're on the aeroplane. They were traveling at high speed as the guy dropped off And then they just travel forward. I'm skipping over a little bit. Yeah, but we'll go back He does eventually get on their tail with an aeroplane close enough to crash into them with his And that time jump is absolutely insane Yeah Yeah, like he managed to get back to a base commandeer a ship Launch and catch up to them like I don't understand Yeah, i'm i'm paul's first time. What do you know? Do you remember what happened to the general guy because I can't I can't remember what happened to him like after He just stays there. Does like i can't remember if he got off the aircraft or not I know Why the drive into the into the aircraft carrier air carrier, whatever this Uh with the van and he's like i'm gonna cover as long as I can where I just think why yeah She didn't why you did he Yeah, he never got on the plane because he was shot and he was already like, you know, oh, yeah This has already gone too far bullshit, but Yeah, it just it goes like stand down there something something Yeah, the airplane and yeah, they're under my protection blah blah blah And uh, and then they have to a little shoot out at the back of the plane The sort of thing to bring up here as well for people who are following along with this plot But are not fully understanding everything we're putting up because they haven't explained everything They did not use the emp while he was chasing them in any way form. They probably should have Especially when he was incapacitated with arnie doing the back and forth that would be a great time to have used it I wouldn't that have Fucked up their plane though Why oh you mean because they would have emp the airplane as well Yeah, yeah, yeah, if you if it's that powerful to destroy this figures It's gonna be at that point. You probably be like set it back down immediately I don't know. Um, yeah, it's not gonna be a shortwave burst It's gonna take out the plane and Yeah, and grace to a degree it would like cripple it or something for a while if she can move her Yeah, I wonder if that would be that would happen or not They never bring that up They never bring up I thought they were gonna bring up that arnie would be killed by it if it went off Well, she's got enhanced eyes and everything else fire like electronics or whatever that's gonna like blind her and like Yeah, it should do something breathing like her lungs or her heart gonna fuck up. Everyone's gonna die except Sarah They had a chance to use it for a while like throughout that whole scene. They could have just been like this is it He's right there. It's not exactly short waves. It's not like a meter. Is it Well, no, it looks like it's two grenades in a briefcase like that's uh You know, it's like military briefcase, you know, like reinforced metal or whatever What we need to do is give one to arnie to activate and get ready to throw while they were in the car And he gets out and when the uh helicopters come Throw it. He's a terminator. They can throw accurately Yeah, but they didn't have they didn't have a properly planned kill box, man Okay, well, yeah, either way. That's that's one half of it. The other half is that um They look in their emp box It's gone It's got three bullets in it and then they open the case and One bullet missed and one bullet went through one of the emp grenades and the other bullet went through the other emp No, I think actually two went for one and one went for the other one I could have sworn it just had one hole in each, but yeah, I could be wrong Um They don't have emps anymore because for some reason, I guess they left it out in the open That's just how that works. And then there's just basically a shrug moment of like oops Well, I guess we gotta do something else now, you know, so that black soldier guy just died for nothing Okay Maybe because they bring him on to the airplanes they're talking to him. I can't remember if he like hobbles off it This is it I really can't remember with this film because at this point when they go through these parts of the film I'm really like just bored because I was like, yeah, yeah, he's chasing them Okay, now they're gonna like do a chase scene in the air. Okay. Okay. Okay. Now we're gonna have some more plot. Okay um Let me get our next Lord dump He explains that uh Danny is the hero of humanity He's gonna like bring everybody to I don't know. Do they actually mention that they they don't say anything about winning the war do they? No, no, it's not about it. It's not about winning the war but it's it's leading the revolution, you know, yeah Um, they don't explain she she says that she sent grace back But they don't explain how like because they just assume that it feels as if they're like, well, it's terminator Of course, they have a time machine. It's like, no, no They have to explain this shit. You have to because t2 and t1 both explained how that's a possibility Dina invents it which is believable to a degree if it's just a matter of technology those guys, you know machines work They make better machines and make better machines blah blah blah um So They made the time machine They sent a terminator back but they made it just too late because they they lose the war just as the humans take over And then the humans use it to send people back. It's like, okay, I can so even though Technically shouldn't time have changed immediately after that. Fuck it. I can't be able to think about that right now Depends on how you think time works, but in this film, they're just like those time machines What Because this is the thing if they didn't even win the war how the humans have a time machine like how did that happen? No In this one they have cyborg technology as well and they're not just like survive it Like in the well In the old past and now does not exist. I suppose or the old future past that doesn't exist. Fuck. It's confusing um It's all dirty and Like it's all 80s style where like the plasma rifles and that and the old pulse rifles and then in this it's Just regular ballistic guns, but they also have cyborg Uh technologies it's kind of weird. It's like it's humanity on it's like last like Brink or because it's still like developing technology. It's still like discovering new Sciences or anything to augment people. Yeah It's like this is not like Ah, I don't know it's they don't they don't explain it and they don't they don't cover enough of it But it's but it's there to like raise a question and it's like fuck sakes. What are you doing? Yeah, the point of the scene is to reveal that it's not dany's son. It's dany Yeah And then all and then all you sex is big it's get fucking shamed on for who you are Then like I said, it's just flashbacks already of the fucking comments from syrah and she are womb And oh my god, and the fucking the cunts, you know the fucking the bitch she says she literally says, um, you are not Uh, the mother of some man who saves the future You are the future and I just fucking shrunk inside Why does it matter if it's a guy so much? It's like guys. It's okay. He saves the universe in reference to humans And sarah connor literally spells it out for the whole audience. She's like you're john connor like you're john Yeah, you're yeah, you're not me. You're john. It's Fuck Well, yeah, you know like if we get meta for a second they killed the savior of humanity and replaced him with a girl who saves humanity You're like, okay That's odd It's like, well, you know, that's just how it works now Well, they just they're just going for this. Oh, yeah the universe or they like the future is cyclical and they'll always repeat itself or they'll always Shape up to be there's some kind of thing it's like it's always turned into the matrix where there's gonna be There's always a chosen one who will lead the revolution against the machines And it's it this case. It's the mexican dany forever every Sequel terminator film has tried to argue why john would be a good leader and they try and argue that you Good tactics or he's good at encouraging people. He's good at putting people together all that because of sarah and kyle's influence that he Knowledgeably knows what he's doing. Yeah, he's upbringing. It's like and in this one They're just like, oh, well, we're gonna have it so a different leader leads and you're like, okay But what happened to john because you would obviously end up leading too with what we know and it's like, oh, he was killed Killed by who when it's like after t2 he was hit with a shotgun. Like what yeah He was obsessed with sasnu, which is the other thing if they like trying to kill dany like for the well They're well, they're always trying to kill dany They totally could easily like just giving up like for a few days and then there's left They're like, you know go back to a normal life and then pow come out again because that's the that's how they kill john John got killed just because server was like, oh, let's go to the bahamas or something, you know Yeah, um And they get interrupted because evil terminator fucking crashes his airplane into theirs and again I'm just like, how the fuck did he get you so quickly? But That's just a thing now Then you get the whole scene Where they're like in partial zero g partially not We're all floating around all beating up the terminator while also trying to survive a falling airplane and it's kind of just like oh particular Uh, I there's nothing to really say about choreography because it's all Extremely convenient the way everyone moves around and how everything happens It's still just bounty bounty pretty much I still just figure of like the epic scenes like in in t2 like with arnie with a minigun like taking out Well, what would not take him out any of the police officers but at the same time shooting them all up just so that they all retreat you from uh the siege against the the Skynet building or ever, you know Yeah Or when he's gonna like not wound any of them and he busts out of the the swat van with a gas Well, he doesn't have a gas mask But all the rest of them do and he just like walks around just shooting them Whilst they all just like, you know pepper spraying with bullets I like they never do that. Well, nobody had never managed like epic highs with uh Action scenes like that in any of the other terminator films. I don't think you know during the fight at one point Arnie and evil man get put right to each other and arnie just punches him again and again and again He's doing nothing and you're like and You're really really doing a clever job here Uh, well, well this is if arnie's always been uh feature creeped like every single film, but he always Remains on top. He's like fucking rocky bar boa. Like every time that his opponent like always like is one up He's like still manages to fight him, you know Yeah, even though he could get well This is the thing um, it's only until right up until the end of the film The whenever he fights on he doesn't use his stabby weapons But the second he does it works and it's just like, why didn't you just do that straight away idiot? Yeah This is what i'm all about. He just has a gentleman's brawl with him because they don't want to Like he fucking tears off his arm, doesn't he? Yeah, it's character. Yeah, it's plot arm obviously But it's it's just really lazy because again He could just slice his arms off at any given point and arnie couldn't one of you will be quick enough to stop it But he doesn't because reasons Um The same way he doesn't just use guns when like, you know shooting them or attacking them with a range weapon would be the preferable Uh takedown, but instead, you know, he just runs up to them and just tries to stab them and he always announces himself because He's never that good at like infiltration because he always reveals himself before he goes in for the kill is stupid And I just remember he blows open the the back with with the grenade launcher and i'm pretty sure that's one of the many moments Where the film just goes And then Arnie shoot a grenade launcher. That's like he does in the other film Stop it Brad fiddell should sue the fuck All these terrible terrible Terminator movies. Oh god Uh So this this part it's gonna be hard for me to like really structure what happens there So it's like the airplane pretty much exploding, but they All out of the airplane in a Humvee That has parachutes on it and it gets opened up But just too late so they kind of crash into a dam Because it's not enough for them to land on, you know The ground or even water it has to be some structure They're in it. It's a dam huge like industrial dam and um They swing off the edge of it and they're held up by parachutes only and then Uh Arnie is dropped into he's like fighting the terminator in the water. They fall into the water and he's fighting him below Look at the bottom of it. Yeah. Yeah, the bed of the river or whatever and he gets uh Sort of incapacitated. I think that's where they pull pull his arm off, right? They actually like his the evil terminators pull on his arm until it breaks off Yeah, yeah, because this at this point the terminator or the evil terminator is always He's always shedding his is like skin or his metal skin with his gooey skin shit It is as weird as we make it sound And again, it's just it's just fair to prove that like uh, he wasn't like trying hard enough at the start He didn't go with his best plan. He like, you know the fact that he can split into two killer robots It's like you should have just fucking done that to begin with like I mean you can assume the identity of anyone is like just assume a random pet and just go off to them But he did it the one time and then he failed miserably because he just brought a fucking shitty pistol and he just Also, um He's playing very much in terms of like he keeps Incapacitating arnie like throwing him away or pushing him or just breaking an arm off him for some reason He never actually Stables him It's one of the things I liked about the t-1000 was he was eventually like, okay, you have to be stopped You're actually getting in the way way too much Yeah How that works, I guess Um, so instead of allowing him to get to the Humvee they cut it so that it goes under water and I don't know what I have to say about the realism of that scene, but they're like waterproof for a decent about a time Underwater in the Humvee, but then it starts to sink in And their plan is Let the place fill with water because like Sarah shoots him through the glass So of course that's gonna let Warren And she wants to activate a parachute on him the second he tries to attack them to tangle him up and then they'll both swim out Uh Seems risky to me. It's like, all right, I guess this will work and it does perfectly like that Uh, well, yeah, again, he should have had the advantage would have been all his to like just stab them like in water But they couldn't oh, yeah, like you can stab through a parachute Like you just think being on the wall like how like, you know Flex about how agile you are compared to like, you know being like while on ground, you know Um, and yeah, so they they get up to the surface. Sarah's dislocator arm and our hero girl is Doing her medical tisms again. Oh, yeah. Yeah. She's having a moment Which is this is what it's just so it's just a MacGuffin to whenever he's just like, oh, where's she in this moment? Because this is like this is probably the The one with the most characters at any given time in the film, isn't it? Yeah, like Genesis had three because it's Sarah, john and uh, on all four that like towards it Oh, it's four towards the end, but Yeah, that's it's just the main cast is that well, this one had like quite a few more extras, you know Either way, they're outside of the uh Like in entrance to the dam, uh, Sarah is incapacitated to a degree So is our hero girl and so it's like you have to run because you now you can't protect you Then awney turns up with a syringe Just he said you dropped this on the airplane Can you imagine that it's like you forgot this on the airplane Did he pick that up before all that shit happened or is it during it? He was like, oh a syringe I Don't know just and yes, so he gives it to her new compassion is being very curious about things Takes care of your illnesses is he's good boy And so she gets fixed up and then Sarah by the way despite her arm being like not usable according to She's able to wield a shotgun that just fine. So I guess Yeah work that badly Um, okay, back with the factor at all talking about how there's just not enough time for the movie, right? So that they're on foot. They've got weapons. Everyone's back together They haven't got their EMPs and they know that terminate man is coming. It's like, right. What's the plan? They're like, well, we need to run and then uh, danny is like, no, this is our kill box It's like what? I was like, what do you mean? This is okay. We can't kill him And I think they have one shotgun And that's it. Yeah, and they fucking plan is to hit him with a hammer and a chain Yeah, yeah, they they've got like the most primitive weapons going and this is like now they're ready for the fight Is if like it's some, you know shitty Showing a film or anime or something like that way like, you know, like the friendship comes together now They're ready to take on the background They try to kill him with all the things he can duplicate or like replicate with or mold To his body they used to try to kill him Can y'all be creative for like a fucking minute? Like this this is not good But when uh, adi gets hit to like an area and he accidentally drops the um He's like No Now what that's like, oh, look at that the turbine Um Uh, that that's it though that they just they keep beating him with things And so as a viewer you'd rightfully be wondering like what the fuck's gonna happen because this isn't gonna do anything And uh, there's just this turbine to to the right of them that's spinning really fast and it's like oh throw them in there I guess I don't know um Which they managed to but not at the at the cost of arnie getting almost destroyed and Not terminate a good girl getting stabbed in the chest, which again because she's human that Fucks her up quite a bit. Um, I think you guys may have noticed the sara gets like grabbed and pushed by the terminator several times but never stabbed because Diplom is nice It's good to be able to promote the movie with sara. Her skin has picked a fin she'd be dead Yeah, that's the thing she's getting thrown around, but she's okay. She didn't break a hip or anything Um Yeah, they they toss him in there And um, it all explodes and he comes out of it like you'd expect that he'd come out of it maybe with um You know like like he he'd reform. He'd just be annoyed, but like he gets full on fucked up like, uh He's like missing an arm. I think and yeah, like he's very little of him remaining. He has to like limp toward them That's how useless he is. Oh wow apparently all his skin is gone as well. So that lost all of his goop I don't know why he wouldn't just detach that from himself and get it out of there Are they saying that the fire got rid of the goop because I thought that I didn't Yeah, I don't know Yeah, like so sara is okay The other two are pretty much knocked out and then she walks up to this like fire And she's like he's not dead because she can hear like noises And she's just aiming her gun at the fire and then he jumps out of it and like, you know pushes her aside I'm like, what the fuck could you walk right up to a fire? I'm pretty sure he's in the fire. I don't know And yeah, luckily she doesn't get killed because obviously I'll kill sara at this point Like I said, I think if they made a sequel to the film they needed for marketing Like look, it's like too too still Please watch our movie Please watch it Um, and yeah, because because grace is autismy. She's like you need to cut my power core out of me Dove it into his head because it'll kill him Which is just like out of nowhere. I don't remember a set that up before this is like, oh Okay, like sure I guess I think right before there they they have their last fight She's just like I have something in my body that can kill but that makes me die and no we can't do that And then I have to do it anyways Yeah, it's such an interesting moral commendment drum Yeah, so yeah, the point is that the big payoff is gonna be our protagonist has to tear out the power core of the hero In order to defeat the villain Okay, so she does Fingering her. Yeah, it's kind of like What I thought what I thought was interesting is like she didn't really tell her exactly where it was She could have stabbed her and poked around but like is this it? She's like, no Yeah, so she gets it Yeah, she runs over to do you remember this bit she like has she wants to have a fucking fight with the terminator The fuck you motherfucker. She's like hitting it with a bat I'm done with your system It's such a like Uh feels good moment for like I guess people who like this protagonist. Is there anyone anyone out there like No, no, no, no Send me an email if you even a character so I can delete it The character is like reluctant leader, but is also just awesome. Come on Gonna get there gonna get there guys Um you can barely hold a shotgun Yeah She gets up with the power thing and she puts it in your pocket and it's like dude, that's your thing That's your main thing What if you lose it? She shoots it She says motherfucker a whole bunch of times i'm pretty sure But she shoots the terminator several times with the shotgun. It doesn't do anything And this is what I meant by bat. She starts hitting him with the shotgun It's over and it's like that's not doing anything. You got it And so she tackles him tries to stab him with the thing But then she fucks it up And uh, this is something that bothers me every time I see it the terminator grabs her leg and pulls it back If the terminator has got you by the leg that ankle is going away That is a fucking crush. Yeah Yeah gone And uh, they're struggling and they're a good like fucking five or six meters away and sarah Sees it and she starts kicking arty's saying wake up Fucking kicking him wakes him up. It's like, oh Okay There's no like electricity or anything. He just just wakes up and he just tins up next to the fight and saves the day And he's like, oh, did he roll over or something? He's like, no, it's just fine And uh, yeah the the thing goes into the bad man's skull And protagonist gill Saves the day almost Um, but arnie has to finish it off grabs bad terminator both full down a big tunnel and uh Our heroes look at them as they're about to explode And arnie says for john as he blows up Really pissed me off This film had the t 800 Uh or t 600. I I can't remember right now because I want to get on to the main point It be you know, you have all of t2 happen And then it's like these people telling you a fan fiction Like how sad would it be if that terminator killed john and he felt bad about it and said and died later and said for john it's just like What do you mean? He's like he dies. He's how poetic he died to to To redeem himself from killing joe. He's like, what do we read? He's a robot He's a fucking toaster It's can you imagine just in the beginning he just kills john This goes over just like oh you won and just And they have all of his skin burner first so it's the terminator itself like the model doing it Just to really be like look it's t2 and it's dying for john or something. What are you doing? Oh angelic I hated it That's pretty legit like they die and then uh, danny goes to see Uh grace as a child playing in like a park And she looks creepy as hell. Yeah, it is creepy Doesn't look too far away from her age from when you know thingy happens. It's like man Is it gonna happen then like is that doing that's what they're going for at the end of the film because sarah's like you better prepare Yeah, it happens like next week The terminators really should have said more people further back Again again, it's one of those deals. They just don't care about it's just Mm-hmm This uh does does on will describe the timeline he's from is deleted I remember he says I think he says uh It failed. I don't know if it's deleted or something. He says the failed for sure Yeah, because that's that's that's his argument for Why they shouldn't do it? Or why the why the evil to the evil rev nine shouldn't kill uh danny Uh someone in chat said an advanced enough robot could conceivably feel anything we can feel He actually says that he can't and that's makes him sad I can feel that makes me sad wait, wait, wait, wait It's about like he says like uh about how he can't love Honestly, oh my god. I'm just remembering when he when the he sends the family away in the driving away He looks down at the ground really sour I was expecting like a robot here coming down. It's like don't do it Fuck that's another future armor reference again, and then the robot that cries and makes itself melt and explode Uh, um Yeah, that's pretty much it. I don't think there's anything else Sarah kind of surrounds like you need to be ready or something and then they drive off into the sunset and That's it um yeah That's uh, I guess the obvious question would be like you're gonna make a video The thing about making a video right now is that um, I feel like I'm not going to catch everything That's wrong with this film without a hd copy, but I also don't necessarily I feel like by the time I get to the point of waiting for an hd copy. I might not even It'll be something worse probably I mean episode nine is knocked out Like it's gonna be out soon. So I'm thinking maybe if I Try and do my first ever attempt at What a video Um, you fucking what I'm interested in doing it. Uh, but right now I've got this friend over my house I'm gonna turn it like just tis me around having fun. So it's gonna be another week at least until I Would want to plan out like a big thing to recover everything I'm sure it's my fault now. It's metal's fault 100 and someone actually asked Why aren't you two on the same mic if you're over as if to prove that you're not here? Like he's he's in a different room with a different setup it's a Yeah, just a bit of a sound But yeah, so a lot of people in chat saying like Nobody cares about this film or whatever. So I I mean, it's not about whether or people want to see a video from it It's I really like terminator. I'm gonna make a genesis video eventually But like this is you know my chance to be able to talk about why terminator two is good at least to a smaller degree It was while Fucking shitting on this disaster too And I think you know, it could be fun as well as just um Floring why it's terrible. Are you gonna make anything related to this? Uh a long bone I don't know You know shit I have no no, you know Here's my here's my thing with this. I I would do a review of genesis over this because with genesis It's so funny and I can make so many jokes. This one is just fucking unpleasant for me to watch Yeah, because it's a final death nail in the franchise I don't give and it's like it's like I give a shit about how bad it is But I don't at the same time. It's it's not it's a numbing feelings I don't I don't care and it's I don't care And I do care But genesis like but terminator genesis I could like I can make some pure goal out of that piece of shit because they they did Kyle re so dirty They did everybody dirty. Sarah kyle fucking t800. Oh god, even the t1000 It's like they turned him into an asian man for some reason Yeah, genesis pissed me off way more than that. Yeah Yeah, oh, I think I made a comment on the trailer when it first came out like um, oh, I It was a line from the trailer. Um Like oh, we changed the time like everything's changed our 1000s asian You know the comment I made on the trailer all the time we got so weird That genesis is definitely worse than this and also probably more hilarious, but This one was still a really bad attempt. It probably ranks below terminator four. Does it rank below terminator three? What do you reckon everyone? Yeah Because uh, they've cheated in this one in terminator three They were like no terminator two was wrong And it's like okay, that's your take fine and this one they were like no, it's right But we get to do everything again anyway, and you're like Fuck Cheating I'd watch all the other bad terminator movies over this one Any day because at least you some of them you can have fun with fun with some of them are just like Aren't aren't as bad as you thought they were previously and or they're just funny. This one is just like bad. This is fucking bad Yeah So i'm gonna read the super chance that we found throughout the stream That'll probably wrap it up. Uh anyone is welcome to stay or go for however long as they want I'm trapped here But you are trapped. Yeah, i'm gonna uh suck out now. Yeah, actually i'm gonna get some food And it was a great film and a great stream Yeah, uh, yeah, yeah It was it was great watching that film Did you guys do so much fun? I'll see you later. Have fun. Bye. Bye. What a nuke All right, then uh first one is help. I got caught in my own zipper again I didn't expect that Yay, efap to poo on terminator. Let's go Uh, this isn't like a main efap episode or anything. It's it just goes in line with what i was doing with game of thrones It's just a conversation rant on this That's why rags isn't here as well But it does lead me into saying that there won't actually be an efap this sunday. Uh rags is on a holiday and i am Busy so i'm gonna take this weekend off. Um, all of you in chat now know So we'll be set in the discord as well possibly on probably not because i never update terrible That'll be FYI But uh, we'll be coming back. Don't worry. We might even do a double episode next week because we've got loads of things to do An episode nine is around the corner Oh, you don't have to be there for both of them, you know I probably will be because i have nothing better to do. Let's be honest I'm still off work, so I probably just fucked up at the second like last time. Yeah, smaller senpai. I need to say i'm a diehard fan, bro, bro They don't want you. They just want your womb Oh man, well she comes from old english walsh being foreign. Well, we're a scary people us They are very scary indeed Hello, hello How can me know thoughts? Uh, I thought it was fine It was fine Couple things i really liked in it couple stuff i didn't and i thought the whole thing kind of was unnecessary, but Uh But it works, you know, yeah, it doesn't destroy anything breaking that so that's that's a huge plus i would say Oh, it's in my it's it's in my top five movies for this year It's actually true That just tells you outside of a situation that list is but okay um Also meme stream date guess And there is no guess. Yeah, it's based on whether or not people are available The I guess an estimation and so when I say this it means that it's not going to happen as a guarantee guys Don't say I said it's definitely happening But next sunday, maybe Maybe All right EFAP movies Dracula 1992 with squirting Keanu Reeves It could happen gary oldman iconic roles, I'm sure Do you think wolf will return for episode nine discussions? Uh possibly cannot promise left or right or up and or down all of the direction Oh Um, it's a three tops. All right when we were giving it a 10 Yeah, I think I'd probably be comfortable with the three I think it's uh You guys are right Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What do you give it out of 10 jail? Uh, wait, what were we talking about again? Uh dark Dark for oh shit like a two There you go. It's not very good is the conclusion. Uh Yeah, what what did we say last night like every all the Action scenes were like neutral. It's like, yeah, they were fine. There was a couple of lines. I giggled out Yeah, that's yeah And the special effects were okay Yeah I don't remember any decent shots. I have to watch it again Like yeah, the script was Yeah, yeah Or is hacked Uh, sissy is about a seracona than danny. I mean danny wasn't seracona, but uh, that's still true Exposed the janitor is the cosmic chickens keeper. He asked about what dragons spend He asked about dragons when it gave meticulations to the site now praises them as penance I have no idea what that But I agree Oh, I mean, yeah, of course. I'm statement. We Putting down my agreements You need a bigger roof Oh Ra Moala, when are you streaming man of medan with flumpled dingus head? That'll be october 31st Starting it's probably like 8 p.m. BST They're in metal plenty of No It was a repurpose of the first two writing john connor and the t800 out of their stories and replacing their roles with gals because Everything is about them nowadays while stealing element films. They erased Oops. Um, yeah, I can I can agree with uh, mechanically how they did all of that um I remember when the poster came out and they were like this one's got all women in it. I remember okay And the first question I had is like if there is there what happened to john Got the answer, uh, would you be willing to watch the gamergate law and order svu episode on efap? I remember that I saw many reviews I don't know what that is. Do I want to know probably not it? Oh god It's why I'm an avid fan. Why was avid fan of svu? It's basically an episode two episodes sometimes on special shit that's non Like let's rape related kind of but like it's it's about this chick who gets uh Who like who she's like anita anita sarkisian and she gets harassed by gamers about this antifa gaming fucking group She gets harassed and raped and There's a whole kerfuffle around that as a chat point out. Isn't there a scene where um, they go to a crime scene They're like, oh my god, he killed a piece of the world describes it as No No, uh, they they go see one of the victims like the they go see one of the victims after she gets raped And they were like what happened and she's like they leveled up We might yeah, we might check that out for efap, but especially if metal hasn't seen it Especially rags hasn't too. That'll be great. It's like an actual episode of csi. I remember those people covering it Watch how did I never hear about this? There's law and order svu of special victims units. Yes Good vibes sent out to all concentrally against your way. Well, yeah, we'll we'll think about Mola massages massives malicious also high rap Uh, I like he would say hi if he was John dies so much for kyle reese's sacrifice then Well, see this is the film is trying to say That all was successful John did stop judgment day with sara and so the the whole future where everything goes wrong for them never happens. Whoo Unfortunately for them legion happens. That's what the film's saying So technically kyle reese wasn't sacrificed for no reason But it's it like I said, it's cheating. It's really cheating Yeah You should watch because science video on the last Jedi plot holes on efap. I'm curious what you think Fair enough. I have no that Isn't it bad to kill people in the past when the future relies on certain things happening What if one of those cops happened to be the reason someone didn't die? I was at the spot they needed? Well, this is the thing the second someone goes back you'll get a different future, but how different I suppose as She lives apparently everything will work out Hey, Mola, have you seen one punch man season two? I recommend reading the manga. It's the superior experience I still need to see it haven't yet Weird mixed thing and we'll avoid I see it though If tywin is the apex homosexual, who is the apex heterosexual and apex bisexual? I don't think that's going to get revealed yet like Or even later seasons of efap that will discover those things can't just throw it all out, you know Yeah, I need to wait for things Dave kellen's video on this is excellent. You've seen it. I have not but um Can you ask kyle shepiro the orphan nine bathwater question bigger tanya bigger Bill gaitiest pinkel schlaub That's a quote from that philosopher Also, thanks for popping up. Uh, usually I was getting real depri over my empty fucking life I hope you enjoy uh discussion on Getting out mid-sense. I'm trying to stay closer Doored it have to look at my noise gate. I guess Because too well complained about that. It's bad Uh, was carls chip mentioned as being on read only or write read and write like in t2's direction cut since now That's a default cut Well, according to some people in chat the canon version is that it doesn't need to be reset, but If I make a video, I'll mention that but I still thought they fucked up Uh, john oliver said it was okay in his last video John oliver reviews films I mean Good for him. I guess. I don't know Uh quick but important question molla. How many resident evil games have you personally finished? we got I nearly finished resident evil one, but I never did Uh, I finished resident evil four like seven thousand times Finish five quite a few times and I think I finished six I can't remember if I got through it because I didn't get it and then I finished seven Um resident evil two and three are the ones that I really need to finish Oh, yeah, I got through most of the two remaster, but I didn't finish that either so My history with resident evil is strange getting there Alternative movies sara and john connor by norman readers team up to save members of his future team while trying to eliminate leftover skynet ai I would prefer that I'd prefer a lot of things over what we got Almost everything Uh time travel rules shove your deus axe up your bum Yes, all right. What time travel do you prefer t3 onwards or dark fate? Oh Do I prefer t3 or dark fate? It would be t3 Yeah, um, I'm not a fan of t3 really it's fine Uh molla totally off topic, but what's your opinion on the first jeepers creepers movie? I think it's one of the greatest monster movies ever made Uh, I remember liking it. I only saw it when it first came out and I remember being like Man when he finds his like lair and a bunch of bodies that have been like nailed to the ceiling and all different walls. I was like, dude Creepy shit And the monster's thing being that he like takes parts of people and then attaches them to himself. I was like, yep Additionally scary in its own. Yeah, I remember liking it. I'd have to rewatch it though Um From t3 to genesis. Where does this one rank? Well, like I said, it's worse Worse than t3 in salvation better than genesis Yes Well, we're in uh recovering from a venom Recovering from a venomous snake bite at least finally getting some time off work to chill and catch some live e fapping. She is mate Yes, I hope you're all right, man. I bet it was a snake bite that's I hope you got some revenge on the snake shad style So any thoughts on robert eggers the lighthouse? I've not seen it. Um, I know I want to though Very interesting Um, I'm gonna have to listen to this on moola since the outer wills just came out and it requires my Undivided attention, but anyways guys my controlances for your brains and linda hamilton Yeah, enjoy outer worlds Uh dark fate refers to the box office dubbers I'll be interested to see if they uh, if they flop or not, it'll be I feel like at this point it might just be a break even sort of situation. I don't know Uh legion is just skynet with adhd too much just is skynet So first predator is about autism being more powerful than intergalactic aliens and now terminator is about some diabetic lesbian being more powerful than a robotic bodybuilder from the future Diabetic They're all in the same universe I mean, yeah, I was gonna say uh clearly this is all they're doing work to connect them all up. It makes sense You guys complaining that it like doesn't make sense when clearly all of this big shit universe now. We just need alien to do something Please no How are all my fellow irredeemable twisted shells of bed doing today? Oh Just wonderfully. I don't know if you knew this Daylong bone, but that's how mean rags were referred to on a discussion about efab We are irredeemable twisted shells of bed That's how they see like efab and ever What is wrong with you sitting there making fun of star wars Finally made a live stream slash cleared the past efabs. Oh, there you go Good job. Oh nice Uh, haven't seen uh doc fate yet. Is it roof worthy hashtag kick j. Oh, it's definitely roof worthy definitely Basically that just means raw will have his way The film don't worry about it. Uh terminate a duck feet. I'll be quack Okay Uh, they make sara a failure to build up the new girl Yeah, well, this is the thing. We didn't really talk about it, but like having sara fail to protect john. It's like, ooh Ooh Yeah, that's a big no-no Yeah, she's an old drunken boomer now I get blackout drunk and hunt terminators like I think those two sentences contradict Uh, somewhere there is a pile of squirrel stuffed with cell phones that we use to contact sara kata Oh, no We'd have to put the squirrel into a bag of Chips as as everyone did. I want to be this Uh tim miller says terminate a dark fate will scare the shit out of misogynistic internet trolls No, it'll only empower them because They fucked up sara connor and then like their their lead chick Is like a blank slate and the other chick of the blank slate who who needs constant sustenance to fucking succeed at her job Which is like completely inconsistent like So hard to think about this fucking Also, there are messages for that a way to weak to even be able to say that Like I I like the whole misogynistic thing. I don't think Honestly, if you'd ask me if it's an anti-men pro women film, I'd probably be like, uh, I guess but like it's not as over as you'd expect Yeah, there's there's hints, but it's not like the message of the film. Exactly Still waiting for more of that from batwoman Uh Only two days we can watch the next episode. I'm fucking hyped Yeah, same here same here, uh discovered jay long bones channel through efap and after watching efap 50. I subbed. Love your stuff, girl Thank you. Thank you. I was gonna say we're on a similar pathway right now. Uh jay long bone and efap both tackling batwoman Oh, yeah, that's right That is correct augmented human equals cyborg. No That's a preferred pronouns augmented human. Don't say cyborg. That's fucked up Um, fuck you up. Well, my scroll phone idea was wrong on a side note Perhaps the future humans still care about ethics and that's why they only upgrade the wounded Uh, this doesn't have to run to you. Hey, I have some info on Rise of skywalker Oh, I mean they they've been apparently there's all kinds of leaks that whole film has come out and let me tell you right Like people have given me some hints on leaks and it's the kind of thing where you go. No, that's not real The leaks for the predator were 100 true. The leaks for game of thrones were 100 true The leaks for dark fate were 100 true Believe the leaks I saw some where though apparently they tested eight different endings Damn Jesus Christ We don't know what we're doing over here. I want to see all of them But molla check efap 17. There's an information panel about flat earth below it What do you mean like in the recommended? efap 17 I'm I'm gonna check it out Everybody's not suggesting the dunk on flat earthers like they're dumb everyone knows that Don't need this no effort takes no effort So ever How does the timeline work? Are we supposed to pretend the the three films through the films don't exist? It's like, yeah, they wanted to think they don't exist Uh, I don't I don't see any flat earth thingies Uh, the director's cut that has the scene with the the chip The t800 should have been remorseful about skull screwing his wife to death and promptly killing his adopted son doing a game of catch The special addition to t2 is basically the default cut now like the blade runner director's cut. So yes, it's canon Well, this is the problem. It's really hard to define The canon when you have multiple releases of film what you can do is just make it specific to um your review so like You can review the film as a sequel to one of those three editions I would pick the director's cut because it's the best cut so um It's the director's cut mostly go with the director's cut for canon, right? I have to check because it's the same with ds2 I reviewed scholar of the first scene because it's the definitive edition And when you when the developers tell you it's the definitive one. It's like, okay, so this is Good job, I guess um Anyway This movie feels like a remix of ideas from other sequels. It kind of is. Yeah uh There's a lot of stuff you can pull from different places. I'd say t2 is the biggest influence, but Definitely a couple Uh, whose idea was it to jake skywalker my sarah corner and kill off john. I will kill you in minecraft. Oh my god It's fucked up, dude Uh, do we fat movies on shock to persevere is whale wolf? When will you it's magical I mean we're not against it produce 50 of the milk why 13 of rhinos do. Hmm. Ah racist yoda. That's the account that said Done done done. Dada. Do you get it? Do you understand that you're watching a tv day movie yet? Yeah, I know Uh, hey guys, are you as baffled as I am by the claims that joker is dangerous derivative shallow self-indulgent and emotionally vacant You're all wrong so don't really bother me I just say they're wrong Hi wags No, just hi wags woes kisses palpatine to save the galaxy. Oh, I I wish that actually did happen Sorry the dark fate was bad fellas at least sands are still in smash Also, arnie terminator is in mortal combat 11 with older movie skins and all All right. Yeah I put down my agreements or I put down agreements Um at my college gill talked about women in sci-fi films said rey isn't a mary sue because rey was an orphan and luke was privileged solid No, it makes sense. Yeah, that pretty much sums up the reaction Love both you and j batwoman vid j batwoman vid is that you know? Yeah Oh, wait, thank you Maybe it says love you both both you and j but that it says just it just says batwoman vid after it. So no, I think it's about you Uh Thoughts on diehard love the first third and fourth Uh, I love the first. I like the third. I think the fourth is okay And I haven't seen the fifth one because I've heard terrible things Uh, I want palpatine's head in a jar on a floating chair We're not gonna get it but that would be awesome Have you seen the netflix castlevania show? It's a great adaptation of the games and it's well written Uh, definitely recommend it if you haven't seen it Again heard good things have not seen it yet though. It is pretty good. I have seen it. I will recommend it as well Just watch dave kellen's dark fate spoiler review along with mr. H and tfm Or an absolutely repugnant film. It's the big gay one thousand Uh, do an e-fap on sv u sv u gamer gay episode with j long but I mean we we had I'm already planning on we we've got something planned to watch with long but don't mind another thing. It'll be great Uh, thoughts about outer worlds have heard good things, but I've also heard a suspicious amount of women in the leader roles That's a reference to a a piece of me coming. But yeah, I I don't know anything about it. So I can't really say Uh, when you guys complaining about two minute of dark fate you get to look at women Uh, how is the all-powerful rey not privileged? I don't know She because she drew grew up in a desert. She may be a god, but she lives in a desert. So Well, I'm asking you to look at the film as a timidator fanatical universe. It doesn't have to make sense It's a movie about robots for children. Yep Um and does wags wankers high as anyone in sorry does wags wankers high as any in womb Boom Uh, and that about so, um Yes, it would make sense since you were both here. Do you want to Say something about your channels before before we sign out. We peace out a j and are now already gone So they don't get to plug now Um, uh, j long one. Do you want to go first talk about your your tisms? Oh, yeah, um, well my channel right well right now. I'm doing reactions to batwoman episodes. That's where my life is headed right now I do commentary, uh video. So and I do I do reactions Uh, just like and movie reviews. It's just it's a hodgepodge. Shit And Yeah, so sometimes I'm funny. Sometimes, you know, I'm not you know, check it out And mel, do you do anything on youtube yet? No, I'm working on it as you are aware But as of now, there's only my twitch channel where things are happening. Well, not now. I'm in long man territory I'm right below on the Lower floor right now. Yeah, I guess Yeah, just just right now just chilling out on on the twitch playing games You might know the drunk streams we do where like Lots of different random ether people just appear also just in normal streams Yeah, just hanging out having some fun find them on I'll command a twitch channel and then Find them in the video section also, but you can also find them on his youtube channel, which is just metal command Yes Which is As of now like the only video I made myself is the highlight video I made And other than that, that's only like the bots from twitch that I Go and upload there. Yeah in terms of what's coming next October 31st, we're gonna stream a spooky video game in me mail Um, the next batwoman episode will be out by then probably and you'll see all three of us in subway involved in that There are different matters because it's gonna be hilarious. I imagine Um, and then I'll be deciding in the next couple days if I'm gonna make a dark fate video I'd say it's more likely yes than no As in like sooner rather than later But uh, like I'm I'm waiting on joker to come out on blu-ray before I touch it as well That's this kind of like I want to get more details right and you can't with cam copies because you've been often not even hear the dialogue Yeah subtitles for anything but um, yeah, we'll we'll get around to um Everything that's the hope because the thing is we're all running out of time episode 9 is coming out soon That's gonna be a disaster I might actually pay to see that because I'm gonna be out of I'm gonna be out of I'm gonna be out of town During that time. I'm gonna be at my uh vacationing with my mom So who knows I might convince her to go see it with me So I'll just tell it nothing will make sense. So that's okay Uh Last few super chats uh molo watch season one of batman animated series It may do at some point Did you know star wars episode nine is the ninth movie in the fan fiction cinema? In fan fiction cinema, I mean actually zootopia efab long bone as well as you know why Zootopia work for that format. I don't even know Is it something we could laugh at a lot I'm assuming it is All right, wait, how the You're gonna have to blur out so much shit Because it's just gonna be nothing but furry porn Zootopia Wait, oh, they're talking about the movie I was like, holy fuck Was this movie something completely different? Um, yeah, no, that's that's a possibility as well. Uh, did you get my super chat? Sorry if I missed it Uh, the one that said about dave cullen's video I yeah, well like I said, I might check it out. Um I'm not gonna like huge amount of time because But but but uh, it's possibility. I've got so many videos to watch Uh, the people reminding you that remarkable republican ones on efab probably aren't expecting an intellectual debate They probably just want to laugh at your pain while you speak with him I mean What you want to still like bring him on like fucking a cloud like a joker Um Like I said me and rags are really we the thing is he would be taking a slot for something else We could set up. We're not I don't know. We just don't think we'll get much content out of him Um, I don't know what the hell is going on with him And I have a you know, he's one of those people where it's in like a section where you're like, oh He wants to privatize the military on mars while also claiming that luke is a gay lesbian Whatever you're just like, what the fuck is going on there? Do you just want to like move away? Well, well, you know closing doors and stuff. So yeah It's just it's fine. He wins the debate. Okay, if ever he thought Everything we said about him was wrong. You know, it's funny. I'm talking about this with you two. You two are here for that, right? Yes Good old loud soup I created a cards against humanity style game full of efab references. Would you play it bow to the leper messiah? Um I mean, I think so if it functioned pretty well, we probably give it a shot I don't know if we could make an efab gaming out of it But like I would get everyone together to I say everybody me rags and probably a couple like I don't see why not but don't you know Don't make it if the entire point is to see us play it just in case things fall apart or whatever Only only do if you haven't felt with it sort of thing Uh, did you see my tweet about no seats available for stars episode nine? What do you think about this? uh All all I knew was that Is a shit ton of seats available in my cinema and then loads people started posting different screenshots of Of how they're not filling seats as much as disney are claiming. They are Um, which I don't really care about that much box office will tell everyone anyway, but um Yeah, like they they may have filled or had full or no seats available like I could Um Yes, what did you think I thought you your dirty jay longbone? He's experienced a lot of horrible things in life and she never knows exactly what Um, any plans to an e-fab on mass effect with smud boy. I can wait a few I've not played it I'd be useful almost um Uh, yeah, that's about it. So is there anything you guys want to say before we go? Don't don't waste your money on that movie Yeah, yeah, I'm good Well, it's been fun. Thank you very much for the donations folks Kind and um, you will be back on e-fab in about just times the intention And uh, there'll be some things coming along the way Don't go see this film. That's a good idea. This will be back up on moola Uh, look at day's time or whatever. Yes, then we shall see you next time. Goodbye. Bye