 Freshman GOP lawmaker Madison Cawthorne is one of 17 Republicans who are signing on to a letter where they are Committing to work with Joe Biden Now this is kind of weird, especially for someone like Madison Cawthorne who just a couple of weeks ago Objected to the certification of the election results on grounds that he believed Joe Biden is an illegitimate winner. He did not win fair and square He believes the lie that Donald Trump told about the election being stolen So it's weird because if you think that Joe Biden is an illegitimate president Then why would you commit to working with the president who you claimed was illegitimate? This is I think a question that we have to ask ourselves now thankfully he appeared on CNN and the anchor did ask him this question and went a little bit further and Tried to get him to explain why he believed that the election was stolen from Donald Trump And you are going to see him make a complete fool of himself This is content that is so cringe-worthy. I think it should go in like the Hall of Fame You can see him get visibly flustered. He faced plants. He doesn't necessarily know what to say You can kind of tell that he knows Realizes that he contradicted himself and then he tries to like explain himself further It's just a really bad look. I enjoyed every second of this. Take a look. Can you just share some specific examples of? Election fraud what are some specific examples that informed this bold decision this audacious decision even after the riots took to Decertify the results. You must have seen some concrete evidence Well Pam the things that I was not Objecting to the election on behalf of was things like dominion voting machines changing ballots or these u-haul trucks pulling up filled with Ballots for Joe Biden as president the thing I was objecting for is things like in like I said in the state of Wisconsin particularly in the town of Madison there was a an appointed Official in that town who actually went against the will of the state legislature and created ballot drop boxes Which is basically ballot harvesting that was happening in the parks, but this was all litigated You know that the Trump campaign litigated all of this more than 60 cases and they lost either the cases were dismissed the Trump campaign withdrew or they never brought a case because they didn't have the evidence to back it up Indeed, I believe specifically and this is the one that I debated on behalf of on the house floor in Wisconsin That was never heard because they dismissed it because of standing now I don't believe that that is a concrete enough of well There were three Trump okay, so you have Wisconsin, but you never you ended up not actually voting against Wisconsin It was just Arizona and Pennsylvania didn't have the Senate votes but three Trump appoint a judge actually throughout these cases because of Merit it was because of merit there were three Trump appointed judges out of all of these judges and the more than 60 cases that were tossed out and you keep talking about Wisconsin I'm still not hearing any specific examples of fraud if you would just tell us what are the specific examples you saw a fraud because When you think of fraud you think of a vote you're slipping one past the election official or a vote was stolen somehow It didn't count. Did you see that specifically? No payment like I said that's not the reason I contested the election hold on so you wanted to throw out millions of votes Without actually seeing any concrete evidence of fraud because that's what you were doing when you were contesting the election The intent there was throwing out millions of votes Well, I disagree with you on that point that was not my intent my intent was to hold up the Constitution and setting up ballot drop boxes Which is essentially ballot harvesting in Wisconsin is unconstitutional because the state legislature said they didn't want that So you know more than the judge the Trump appointed judge who said that who actually looked at that case before the election and dismissed the Trump campaign's Argument that drop boxes are unconstitutional. And if you would would you point to me and where in the Constitution? It says that drop boxes are unconstitutional. I don't recall seeing that in the Constitution So we'll just stop it right there because it doesn't get much better for him. That was awful like If I'm like one of his advisors, I'm trying to train him on like answering questions Properly and coherently. What are you saying here is so stupid to say that he makes a number of logical leaps That make him look stupid is an understatement because basically what he says is look I'm not like these other unreasonable Republicans who claim that the election was just like flat-out stolen I don't think that Dominion stole votes and like flipped them from Trump to Biden I'm not saying that there were trucks that brought in millions of pro-biden ballots and like dropped them off That's not what I'm claiming. I'm just saying that the election was stolen And I objected to the certification of the election results because in Wisconsin there were ballot drop-off sites Therefore the entire election is illegitimate. Let's throw out millions and millions of ballots Really, that's that's your argument and what's weird is that the contradiction emerges very clearly when She points out that he did not object to the certification of the results in Wisconsin He objected specifically to Pennsylvania and Arizona Now it was because you need senators to sign on to that process as well But still if you're claiming Wisconsin Why is that the only state you're pointing out when you also objected to the certification of the results in Arizona and Pennsylvania like What you're saying doesn't make sense It's a contradiction and on top of that like what he says about Wisconsin in particular and why it was supposedly rigged is nonsensical so first of all drop boxes were approved by the Wisconsin elections Commission and They provide people a place to drop off their absentee ballots. This isn't controversial at all But according to him, this is illegal because it's tantamount to ballot harvesting, which is illegal in Wisconsin This is his claim anyways, but first of all it's not the same thing as ballot harvesting and second of all Wisconsin doesn't actually Specify whether or not a third party can collect and return someone else's ballot and the only state where so-called ballot harvesting is illegal is In Alabama not Wisconsin so he makes an assumption and then makes a logical leap based off of that flawed assumption And you just don't have enough evidence to go from point A to point B But all of this is moot because you voted in favor of certifying the results in Wisconsin It was Pennsylvania and Arizona So where's the evidence specifically that it was rigged in Arizona and Pennsylvania like do you understand why there's a problem here? He can't figure out the argument that he wants to use to claim that the election was stolen and Do we know why that's the case folks? It's because he has no Evidence that the election was stolen because the election was not stolen There is not evidence that widespread voter fraud and election fraud led to the results changing So that's why he was sitting there scrambling Trying to make up some reason as to why we should throw out millions of votes and literally invalidate an election Like he can't he can't explain it. Well, these drop-off sites that is actually ballot harvesting I don't like them. So I'm gonna call them ballot harvesting and we should hate ballot harvesting because That's what the GOP says like this dude is a moron and you are a member of Congress you're a member of Congress now and You still don't have your shit together and he's young he's 25 years old But this is the job that you signed up for you've got to come with the facts Right, you can't just make things up now. You're a lawmaker. You're in a position of power So if you're gonna claim that the election is stolen put up or shut up Well, like I don't know the drop-off sites are like really suspicious and Ballot harvesting which is basically just ballot collecting is a word that scares me And so I'm gonna say that the drop-off sites are ballot harvesting But then I'm gonna vote sort of by the results in Wisconsin anyway Because really it's Arizona and Pennsylvania where it was stolen, but I'm not gonna tell you how it was stolen like dude You look like a fucking idiot and you're on national television And this isn't going to be your last appearance. So get it together. Maybe instead of like lying and You know using these conspiracy theories to misinform people. Why don't you actually just I don't know not lie Try telling the truth stop being a hack and believing every single fucking thing that Donald Trump and Republican Party Media says stop watching OAN stop watching Newsmax Like be objective. It's it's not that hard stop being stupid So this was really really a bad look, but I'm glad that folks are seeing who Madison Cawthorne is You know, it doesn't matter how old you are a Republican is a Republican at the end of the day They have no new ideas. They just care about delivering for their corporate donors and suppressing votes and Really, it's all about self-aggrandizement like he didn't run for Congress because he cares about people He ran for Congress because he wants to be in a position of power Like if he if I'm wrong about that he can prove me wrong put up some policies sponsor some legislation now That would actually help the American people, but he's not gonna do that because this dude is a fraud