 Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of prime comments. Hope you're having a wonderful Sunday And before we get into it I want to make a small announcement about our Nintendo Prime podcast Starting this week. We are going to have one long video for our podcast and we are going to continue that through the end of Well this year and then we'll revisit if we want to continue that format in 2018 now This is how most podcasts handle it. You whether it's a video version or an audio version. They typically Just have one long segment and that's it Well, we've been splitting up our segments kind of following an old thing that kind of funny games used to do Where you split it up per topic and then we found that the per topic videos from our podcast We're getting more views than just the one long video podcast So we just decided that that was the best way to move forward However, an issue happened this past week that made me rethink all of that And that is that we had videos come out about Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and videos come out about doom at Times when what we talked about in those videos were no longer relevant This was always going to be an issue that was going to crop up some day because we typically record Thursday nights Release a day early on Sunday evenings and then start releasing the podcast on Mondays and because of that We're already a few days behind as is but because typically gaming news doesn't come out over the weekend We're not really going to be too far behind on topics when it's published on a Monday But since the Xenoblade and doom one were to the last topics They came out after the Xenoblade Direct and then you know the same day that the doom reviews were coming out so To combat that we are just going to go back to one long podcast Don't know how I'm going to handle titles with it yet we already have the new episode done in fact if you are a patreon backer and You are at the five dollar level or above you can literally listen to the podcast right now It was published before I even recorded this video And if you want to hear this week's podcast already go to patreon.com slash nintendo prime and Check it out five bucks a month. You can access the podcast right now this week. It's just Eric and Nate And hopefully next week we'll be getting some of our $20 backers out So let's get into the comments from this week. There's only three specific comics We're gonna go over out of like the 18 videos we released Man, I've been really ramping up video production. I think we're not too far away from the average in 20 videos a week That's almost three videos a day. That's insane Specially since it's mostly just me but Let's get right into the comments So this first comic comes from the triple a publisher should take lessons from Nintendo to increase profits and lower risk It's kind of a discussion video. I made giving my opinions on that and Umair as if had this to say Triple a games are becoming a fad just look at all the games released They start with huge hype and anticipation once they are released They start to lose their value within months triple a studios can't afford to take risks and create a new Amazing idea which they think will give profit so at core they add little to no changes So they already tried and tested gameplay mechanics Majority of games are just the same game mechanics with each iteration getting a massive eye candy So it feels new and fresh but when you play it it starts to get boring within weeks Western studios are working like mindless machines All they want to do is recover the money they invested taking low risk and maximizing profits Nintendo is a completely different story. Their philosophy is gameplay first Rest goes around the gameplay to compliment it their story is almost the same for Zelda or Mario for years and years But the gameplay is just so different unique and fun that no one cares Graphics compliment the world and they create it into play So it's still fun in 520p as much as it is on 1080p sorry really weird sentence at a hard time reading that one They take risk in new games and ideas in a very smart way look at arms They launch a completely new IP a new way to play a fighting game to prevent losing a ton of money They sort of made the game where it will suffice to be fun and show what can be done with minimum budget Once it started to sell. Well, they started to add more into the game Improving the game from the profits. They did the same with Splatoon 2 Nintendo loved to take risks after we you know other company would have dared to take a risk and switch But they did rather than make the most powerful box out there like everyone wanted them to and took another hugely A fate with the switch. So I appreciate some of your sentiments. You're you're wrong on some parts that you say about Nintendo As an example the sales of arms have nothing to do with the content that I've added to arm since they announced They were gonna add that content to the game before the game even released and the sales of arms is less than impressive It's to give you an idea 1-2 switches outsold arms While it's sold over a million copies I don't know if Nintendo considers that a success or a failure It's certainly not at the levels of Splatoon when it originally launched And the content that they add in Splatoon and Splatoon 2 again all of that was announced They were going to do that before those games came out So it's really got nothing to do with how well those games sold for that content That was the original plan for those games before they even released and had even one sale So yeah, that's a really good nothing to do with Nintendo's plan for those games Sorry a little itchy here. I don't know why I'm itchy on my nose, but outside of that I don't know. I mean, here's the thing like when you talk about triple triple a games are becoming a fad They're obviously not a fag is triple a games have been around for decades and decades Fads are like the we Not not something like triple a games triple a games aren't actually going anywhere triple a games today are Arguably as popular as they've ever been They're only getting more and more relevant not less relevant if that's the case That doesn't mean there aren't other types of games that are becoming extremely relevant I think the B tier of gaming has started to come back which was desperately needed and I think It sucked when that kind of went away when triple a games really took over heading into the now HD era of gaming but you know you talk about how How triple a studios can't afford to take risks. They can't afford to take risks It's got nothing to do with affordability of taking a risk Horizon zero dawn. Hello. If you're gonna give breath of the wild and Odyssey and arms and all the stuff credit Why not the new IP that Sony has in a horizon zero dawn which took a lot of risks in terms of the type of game It is being a single-player game in a market where multiplayer games not having a ton of micro transactions Followed by they just released a really what appears to be a really really good a story based DLC pack And by and large is fantastic. It's not just Nintendo doing these things I think sometimes when you are so invested in a single company like a lot of people are with Nintendo or Sony or Microsoft or EA or Ubisoft like people who just play like those kind of games or on those systems You tend to forget that Nintendo's not the only one taking risks Ubisoft, you know the division that was a risk. That was a new IP Ubisoft technically did a risk with Mario plus rabbits kingdom metal I know it's a spin-off game from two like well-known series, but it was still a pretty big risk Especially for a strategy game. That's like XCOM pretty big risk. There's other companies taking risks. Nintendo's not alone And the companies I just mentioned like these are third-party companies, so And when you're you know, you look at how they add little to no changes That's what a lot of people think Nintendo does Does the upcoming Kirby and Yoshi game look really that much different from other Kirby and Yoshi games Did Mario Kart 8 really look that much different from Mario Kart 7 and Mario Kart 6 and Mario Kart 5 4 3 2 1. I mean Nintendo does iterative things as well You know Super Mario Galaxy. What does it be in praise for feeling a heck of a lot like Super Mario 64 and Super Mario Sunshine? So is it that they reinvented the wheel or that they realized what people want or the 3d Mario's and just gave us more of that? Same with Breath of the Wild did it reinvent the wheel by being open world when the original Zelda games open world or having more? RPG elements when Zelda through Zelda 2 used to literally be an RPG. I don't think That Nintendo it reinvents the wheel as much as a lot of people think they do I think what happens is they realize That they got pretty stagnant and that they were making a lot of iterative things as an example New Super Mario Brothers new Super Mario Brothers 2 new Super Mario Brothers we knew Super Mario Brothers you that really became iterative It doesn't matter that new Super Mario Brothers you is probably the best game of that series It just felt very samey going game to game the same with Super Mario 3d land Super Mario 3d world The games felt very samey even if the latest version of a 3d world was in my opinion a vastly superior game to 3d land Yeah, it Nintendo gets iterative and then they realize they've been kind of doing that for too much So then they go back to something they used to do I know Nintendo we like to give Nintendo a lot of credit like why are people excited for the next metro game? It's Metroid Prime 4 the fourth game in an ongoing style of Metroid games Pokemon on switch. We're just excited to have a console version of a Pokemon game And Pokemon itself has been very iterative over the years. So yeah, Nintendo I Don't know that Nintendo takes a lot of hardware risks They take a lot of risks in terms of trying to create a new way to game But their bread and butter is very iterative stuff That doesn't mean they don't put new ideas into that obviously like item breaking mechanic and their cooking and all If there's new stuff incident climbing everything That's probably the biggest thing they add in Breath of the Wild like there is new ideas. They put in these things But for the most part Nintendo is just like all the other triple-a companies. They're really really good at what they do and they stick to what they do And they still make new IPs as do other companies So yeah, I guess I just don't agree with your entire premise I think you're giving Nintendo too much credit and you're taking a lot of credit away from what triple-a publishers are doing Because they're doing a lot of the same thing that Nintendo is doing, you know people get mad Oh another Call of Duty. Oh another Assassin's Creed. Oh another Mario game another Zelda game another Kirby another Yoshi I mean Nintendo does the same thing It's just you like those games versus maybe not liking their games Whereas there's people that like those games that may not like Nintendo games hence bunch of people yelling at each other Throwing a bunch of mud at the wall and seeing what sticks for some reason Um, you know when you talk about you know massive eye candy There's obviously games that go for the massive eye candy, but they're also good games on top the unchartered series The last of a series very very good eye candy, but also just very very good games um But yeah, you know you talk about like mindless machines I guess usually we call duty when they say that but I don't know Call of Duty. It's still fun It's a fun thing to play. I don't really see an issue with I guess a more mindless game like that Um and in terms of I'll recover the money they invested by low risk and maximizing profits triple a gaming is anything but low risk Let's just be clear about that Triple a gaming is all about spending that money money money In fact, what makes a game triple a is the money spent on it So it's very high risk in terms of maximizing profits If they're a western studio, especially they legally have to maximize profits If they do not try to maximize profits, they can be sued by their shareholders. So On nintendo, I don't know what the laws are in japan. So they might they might not Be able to be directly sued about it plus nintendo seems to buy back a lot of their shares So nintendo holds on up to a lot of their own equity in their own company Which might prevent, you know, that might be a preventative measure measure from being like, oh, you're gonna sue us But like one of the majority shareholder you can't sue us kind of thing And I don't I don't even think nintendo is the majority shareholder in themselves But yeah, I think they're trying to become the majority shareholder. So that way they can't have That the investors looming over them being like, hey, you have to do microtransactions You have to do loot boxes. You have to do this. You have to do that because it makes the most money And when what nintendo does right now, obviously makes money as well But could they make more money in supermoney odyssey if they added microtransactions for the costumes if they added loot boxes Sure, they would make a lot of money, but they're not doing that because they don't want to Um in the west if it was made by ea We could talk about the evil corporation, but like if they don't do that they can be sued So ea is stuck between a rock and a hard place like they want to make great games But they have to throw in this stuff because if they don't they're gonna get sued because this stuff has been proven To maximize profits. They have to maximize like sometimes we forget that video games are a for-profit business Video games aren't a charity. They don't owe us anything Their pure existence is about money money money. It's about making money Anytime you think a game company cares about you, especially at the AAA level. You're wrong They don't care about you. They care about money even indie developers Uh, when you when an indie developer lives up lives out their dream and makes their dream game and puts it out there They're putting it out. They're hoping to make money I mean They might it could be a passion project, but they're hoping their passion project makes them money Then the creator of minecraft is upset that he made all this money off of minecraft, of course He's not upset about it. Why would he be upset about it? I know he's battled depression and some other things That's topic. We're going to get into later. But yeah, um, two you're taking too much credit away and giving too much credit to Nintendo anyways, we'll be done Uh, the second comment to talk about sony has zero plans to compete with switch a lack of potential in the handheld market A little news piece we put up this week trevor grover I have this to say I mean sony wants nintendo in their own hybrid console market So that sony doesn't have to compete with nintendo in the traditional home console market space I don't think it's true at all. I don't think sony cares if nintendo made a traditional home console or not Um, I think what happened is sony doesn't think they know how to properly connect with people who want games on the go Uh, which was very apparent with vita and their approach of vita I mean the switch is basically a vita, but with its full potential realized Sony, I think realized that they just don't understand that market very well Uh, so they're going to stick to what they know. They're going to stick to what they've always been best at in terms of video games Um, and they don't really care if nintendo owns that one market because sony doesn't Doesn't see any crossover with that market even though you can argue home console gaming on the go You can say there's crossover there. Uh, we just got doomed. We're getting la to our blah blah blah, but you know Sony right now doesn't view that as competition. So it is what it is We'll see what happens in the future. They have no reason to by the way switch came out Is doing phenomenally well topping sales charts. PlayStation 4 sales weren't hurt by switch Like they didn't slow down because switch came out. So Uh, should they even be concerned? Of course, I mean, of course not at this point because Switch is doing better than sony, but sony sales aren't doing any worse In fact, in some metrics, they've actually increased year over year Anyways, he adds a last comment from this week comes from 2018 will be the year of third party on switch. I guarantee it Get a bold statement by me. Um, Christopher kensei had this to say or kensei And it's all thanks to birth of the wild link single-handedly saved nintendo and the switch Link was the reason ultra street fighter 2 sold 500,000 copies Link was the reason mario plus rabbits was massively profitable Link is the reason Bethesda is giving us doom and link is the reason every other success story on the switch Breath of the wild was a catalyst to this runaway train of success. Everybody think link you couldn't be more wrong Link and breath of the wild were a catalyst for having a killer launch game for switch Uh, it certainly was the reason that a lot of people bought switch at launch But none of that matters if one switch itself isn't appealing if Breath of the wild was a launch game on we you we you wouldn't have been successful It's still what a sold out at launch like it always did and it's still what a tank after that Uh Just because you're a launch title a great launch title doesn't guarantee anything. Let me give you an example Super mario 64 Launch title for the n64. It was the reason to buy an n64 Yet the n64 only moved a little over 30 million units By today's standards, that's not good. I mean, that's even less than the xbox one at this point so You're talking about how Zelda Or like mario is why ocarina of time sold then mario is why and you know Golden eyes sold like that's just that not the case in this case The what it was of the combination of a killer launch game Combined with a hardware people want combined with consistent software releases The this one there is not just a one factor that made the switch successful Just like there's not, you know Breath of the wild isn't my ultra street fighter 2 sold 500,000 copies Ultra street fighter 2 sold 500,000 copies because there was 500,000 plus people that owned the switch that wanted to buy Ultra street fighter 2 despite the fact that it was more expensive than other versions of the game Um mario plus rabbits was massively profitable. We don't actually know if it was massively profitable We assume it is but mario plus rabbits was vastly profitable a because of mario Because of rabbits and c because it's a really damn good game It didn't need zelda to sell it If they didn't have zelda at launch mario odyssey would have been there at launch by all accounts mario odyssey has been ready for over a year They delayed it till towards the end of this year because zelda Was ready to and they obviously were going to keep delaying zelda after all the delays that had So they were going to have zelda come out at launch and then have mario odyssey come on end of the year So yeah, if zelda wasn't there odyssey would have been there and I argue odyssey might have been a better launch game in terms of sales, so Yeah Um, I don't think zelda's why we're getting doom. You could think zelda's why we're getting skyrim I can see that but doom I don't think has anything to do with it That has to do with nintendo went to them in person said here's the switch We really want you on our hardware. Well, how can we do to make it work? And that just worked out like we know that nintendo went to them in person Literally their japanese branch went to Bethesda in person to their studios and been like, hey, what do we got to do to get you on our platform? Uh, they did this actually with several third-party companies. Bethesda is just the only one And 2k I guess a bit that that kind of took the bait and said all right. All right We like what you're doing. We're going to give you this this and this and we'll announce it when we're ready Uh, so yeah, you can say breathable was the catalyst breathable while was just part of the reason Um, a very important part but not it not not everything so I'm not going to thank link for the switch being successful I'm going to thank nintendo for having a good idea marketing it right hitting with the right crowd of people Having a platform that actually works the way they say it'll work and For maybe the first time in years no games routes Like and i'm not just talking about oh, they've released some indie games I mean like good games consistently coming out over the course of the first year of the platform We're not even to the end of the first year and we already have zeno blade chronicles 2 coming out We have this entire month is like all third party games Uh, I'm sure we're going to end up with uh, yoshi or I think it's kirby that's announced for early next year So that's probably going to land in january or february So they're consistently releasing good games that are good to great games at this point. So yeah Zell those is a part of all that but not the whole reason well now The final thing we're going to talk about quick is I made a video this week I just want to draw some attention to it breath of the wild helps save someone's life a personal story of escapism and depression I didn't take any comments from that because a lot of personal stories in there people bring it up I went per I The first 13 minutes of that are basically me talking about this story about uh, how this person was depressed I read off their their story they gave And how breath of the wild uh kind of helped save them and help get them out of the place with even quotes From actual uh psychologists on there I'm talking about how breath of the wild and Zelda could be a perfect way for people to escape And then I transitioned that into 13 minutes talking about my life and my experiences with depression And how I even mentioned an injury that happened that happened that same day. I recorded it I'm actually still dealing with it The only reason my wincing in pain is because I've been trying not to move my arm or my shoulder It's actually down to my back now too. I didn't even realize that at the time So I'm in I'm in a lot of pain. I can't even sleep very well But I just want to draw some attention to it. I'm going to put a link down to that and the other Videos we talked about in the comments below just if you have depression, uh, you know, watch that video And hopefully it'll help you Maybe realize some things about yourself. Maybe help you get some help. I hope The hardest thing to do when you have depression is admit that you need help Just like with anything in life any time you're struggling the hardest thing to admit is that hey You need help. It's okay to admit that you need help Um, all of us need help at times Anyway, folks, I'm Nathaniel Ruffigens from the tender prime and if you like this video, you know what to do And if you dislike the video hit that dislike button Subscribe for more content and I will catch you guys See see what I mean in the next one