 Good morning and welcome to the session. Let's pray and begin with today's class. I want to request one of us to go ahead and lead in prayer please. Canina, could you please lead in prayer? Father God, we thank You and we bless You for this day, Lord. Father, we submit ourselves unto Your loving hands, Lord. Lord, whatever You are teaching, help us to understand and use it in our lives, Father. We submit each one of us unto Your loving hands. In Jesus' precious name we pray. Amen. Amen. Thank you. Thank you, Nina. So we have been looking at the steps as far as deliverance is concerned when we are ministering deliverance to someone and we went over general things such as speak to the person, know that the person is different from the spirit that we are addressing. Then we also said that we need not engage in conversations with the demon spirits that we can focus more on the actual work of the deliverance. Now today we will look at a 10 step model which was developed by Pablo Botari. Pablo Botari is a person who was involved in the deliverance ministry of Carlos Anacondia in Argentina and he has the experience in those 10 people who would be brought for deliverance and he has witnessed about 30,000 deliverances after which he came up with these 10 steps. So based on his practical experience, he has developed these 10 steps and they are quite effective is what people say and they are very helpful when it comes to ministering deliverance. So we will look at these steps right now. So some presuppositions before we get into actual steps. One is what we said earlier, we are going to minister to the person, but take to the person that the person is fine through what you are doing. Then we try to keep our focus on the authority. Effectively demonstrating the authority of God in this situation, authority over the devil rather than establishing like a struggle or a wrestle with the demon because we can fight all we want, we can have a lot of drama if we want but at the end of the day, if God's authority has not set that person free if the believer's authority that I carry has not set the person free then what is the point of all the time spent? So the focus is our authority and not the wrestle or the struggle with the demonic spirits. Then counselling is also important sometimes. I have mentioned that if the person is alert and has some understanding getting their will involved will help a lot in evicting the demon spirit. So try speaking to them, try checking with them what's happening and remember we said you could check with them if there were any dedication, sacrifices different things that have put them in bondage to these demon spirits and also when they are convinced and they go against these demonic spirits it's a lot easier to break the bondages. So counselling is helpful, help the person see and walk in the truth. The next thing is open doors or entry points as I have just stated we can be aware of those things and the moment you close those doors and many times you have to do it in prayer together with that person both of you together, you have to lead that person in prayer and they shut those open doors then it becomes easy for the demons to actually come out and finally we should not expect dramatic manifestations on deliverance every time. So I remember this one question this was a few batches before you all there was somebody she was checking with me that in our churches today we don't see people screaming falling on the floor and shrieking so is deliverance really taking place ma'am or is it only taking place in some churches where we see all this happen? The answer is we may every deliverance may not have a manifestation yes when we study about Jesus the examples there many of them nearly all of them had a manifestation they fell they screamed but today what is happening could be happening is people are getting free without manifestations so for example people come to church right Sunday after Sunday they come they listen to the word of God they worship God they make commitments to God from their hearts bondages are broken in their lives maybe there are attached demon spirits to their habits or thinking patterns but whether we realize or not they're becoming freer and freer hopefully if they're responding to the word if they're responding to the presence of God that person can completely transform over a period of time but you never saw manifestation of the demons leaving them you understood so that is also a reality we shouldn't push for we can't say that deliverance is not taking place only in our churches because nobody is screaming shouting that's not true you don't need a dramatic manifestation to prove that demons have left sometimes quietly demons can be leaving and over a period of time you would notice that in the life change of a particular individual so that is also true so we must keep that in mind now even while ministering deliverance to a person we may not see a manifestation but as long as we are working with the spirit of God and the sense that huh it's done then it's done okay so what are these 10 steps let's look at them alright we'll just go over the 10 steps and then I will explain it to us so the first one is give the individual priority so we are ministering to the person that is why second is if a spirit manifests bring it under submission in the name of Jesus the third one is establish and maintain communication with the individual the fourth is ask the individual what he or she wants to be free from and try to make sure he or she really wants to get free make sure the individual understands to make Jesus Christ the Lord and saviour six interview the individual to identify root causes and entry points seven lead the individual in closing these doors to the admission of spirits eight when all doors are closed cast out the unclean spirit or spirits nine lead the individual in a prayer of praise and thanksgiving ten have the individual ask the Holy Spirit to fill him or her so this is what a normal or let's say the average things would be to do while we are ministering deliverance so all of us can follow this recently just last week we had the weekend school right so even there like somebody was interested they felt that oh why don't you pray for deliverance for me and so I prayed I followed I followed these steps it was very helpful and I kept talking to that person so I began to pray I took authority over the demon spirit I commanded you know the demon spirit to leave because they felt that okay some some things are there some manifestation like you know some issues are there which they were very clear because of a certain background that it's demonic so when I started praying I followed these steps and then I was asking the person I was constantly talking to the person I said how are you feeling what is happening now what is happening now so she was telling me I can feel a burning it's starting from inside it's coming up so I prayed some more and I was like okay now tell me what's happening what's happening she's like the burning it was moving it came up to her throat right and then so I know what's happening the demon spirit is leaving because we are commanding it to leave so there was no dramatic manifestation or anything like that but it after a while we prayed about certain things this and that and then when I even I sense that she was fine and I asked her what do you feel now how do you sense things now and she said it's different I don't feel that burden that heaviness anymore I feel like something has left me okay so just an example I'm giving you we may have to pray for deliverance for anyone anywhere don't expect it to always look like a big you know like a drama I mean I don't mean to put down the way it happens generally but it may not happen like that be mentally prepared to pray just keep it simple use these steps and pray for the people now does do we always need to go all 10 steps not necessarily it may not work in this format that's okay this is just to help us so this is just to be a guide for us and there is no formula there's no formula for example when we read about Paul and his ministry through handkerchiefs deliverance is took place demon spirits left that's not there in this list so it can happen anyway we may sense I have to anoint with oil demon spirit will lead or sometimes what people do they take some water and they sprinkle right so there is no set formula nobody can give us a formula and even if we have prayed for people many times every ministry is different so the key is listen to the Holy Spirit right and what is God saying now what should I do now be led as per that instruction okay maybe maybe you sense okay lay your hands on that person or anything so just go by that there is no formula these steps are just a general guideline now let's get into it first is give the individual priority okay give the individual priority so as I have already stated talk to them be loving towards them otherwise they also feel you know we are militant against the demon spirits but the person should not feel rejected and condemned which is because they are afflicted by the demon spirit we shouldn't look down on them that a look at you you know your demon afflicted or demon possessed so we can be loving to the person and be very encouraging to the person while we say look I'm going to pray for you just keep talking to me we'll pray together you'll be free encourage them when I pray let's believe God that you are going to be free from time to time I will command some demon spirits to come out of you I may be firm in my tone but you know it's just against the demons it's not regarding you so just help me here so this way when you establish a communication then it will be helpful and don't scare the person you know I'm going to pray for you you will fall on the floor you will scream that person will be like I don't want this just leave me alone you know I'm fine as I am so when you emphasize the power of the demon anything can happen and all will be like it's like a horror movie I don't want to be a part of this keep it very simple keep it very encouraging just talk to the person like you know you care for them and that way you're giving priority to the person they'll also cooperate with us when we are praying for them ok and sometimes people can be very discouraged because maybe they went to different pastors and men and women of God but the demon didn't come out so when they come to us also they'll be like how you also try let's see you know if anything is going to happen or not so sometimes people because they carry that attitude also the demon won't leave because they're already thinking it's not going to leave you know what I mean so when we are encouraging when we build faith in them only then we can expect that all our other steps can be effective so establishing communication with the person is very helpful ok try doing that so that was the first step next if a spirit manifests bring it under submission in the name of Jesus so we have already said Jesus commanded the demons but be quiet sometimes these demon spirits that tactic is intimidation when they can make you scared they know that they can stop you from exercising your authority so I've shared already you know they may come up with many different things like oh I know about you or I know your family I will hurt them something they'll just bring up all these things just keep your focus on Jesus and you can repeat the command I command you to be quiet a couple of times because once you bring the demon spirit under subjection the person also will be safe because what these demon spirits try to do is if you don't quieten them down they can be like hurt self harm for that person I remember one lady we were praying for her as a team we were praying for her she was so violent I think two or three of us had to literally hold her up and even after we were holding her she was moving so you know in such a crazy speed she hit her hand against the floor or wall I don't know what it was but it it almost looked like her finger was cut you know you could see a deep cut on the finger and we had to because of what was going on we had to hold her otherwise she'll get hurt isn't it so when we learn to take authority and we say like okay you demon spirit stop we command them don't talk you don't harm this person to some extent you know there's a there's a control and then we can go further with issuing commands to the person so yeah we may have to command often and tell them to submit okay and try not to stir up the spirit last class itself I said sometimes people start arguing with the spirit they start challenging the spirit so what are we doing see we need some calmness to go further but if you're stirring up the demon spirit then there'll be more confusion these are all unnecessary things what is our goal here is a person they are oppressed we want to set them free if spirit is manifesting whichever way you take authority repeatedly I take authority command you be quiet be quiet submit in the name of Jesus you command it to come under subjection first okay repeatedly you can do that you can pray some or you can declare Jesus has already defeated you you demon like you can take up scriptures and if they say things back to you stuff like or you are a sinner say no all the things that are against me it's already been nailed to the cross 2000 years ago to speak truth keep speaking truth so what are you doing you're bringing that spirit under subjection and saying nothing doing here is the truth Jesus has conquered you you have to leave that's all so you're demonstrating your full authority keep speaking the truth of God bring the demon under subjection that is your second step third is establish and maintain communication right with the individual so what happens I told us in between like I told you right this week when I was praying for this lady I kept asking her what's happening feeling and she was telling me so that's also giving me some guidance she doesn't know this is this burning is moving she has no idea I have an idea what is happening you know what I mean so that way you can ask or you can affirm don't be scared you'll be fine you'll be okay you'll be set free you know put your faith in Jesus Jesus commanded and the demons came out so you're building faith in person keep talking to the person maintain communication okay sometimes when we are speaking to the person you may notice that like we should also be able to discern that it's not the person speaking but it's the demon speaking so that also we need some discernment over there and in some cases what demon spirits will do is they will try to make them like weak you know the person's head will fall they won't be able to communicate with us and all but you encourage them you say hey come on be alert listen to me I'm talking to you okay try to keep them alert because that will help if their mind is involved it really helps okay so do your best but the demon spirits will try to bring them down and sometimes some preachers say this I don't know like when you look at their eyes also you can tell like whether it's a demon or whether it's the person so I do maintain eye contact because then you know what is happening right they close their eyes if they fall you say no no no come on wake up sit I'm praying for you listen to me cooperate with me do you want to be free or not encourage them so that way okay moving forward are you all okay okay fine four step four now while communicating with the person ask them their will because sometimes people are not willing to let go of the demons then you pray your whole family prays your whole church prays all gang prays it won't happen because the person is willing to keep the demon right so step four is also very important you ask them do you want to be free what are the things that are going on do you want to break free from all this they need to be convinced so when they are convinced right it is helpful these bondages will break and you know they can actually come out of it so I'm not getting into it because I think we've spoken enough you all know about open doors and you know shutting those open doors pray together with them revoke dedications revoke if any sacrifices were made you need to speak with like pray with them and you lead them in prayer so they would say something like yes a dedication happened so you will say okay pray with me in the name of Jesus I so and so I revoke this dedication which my grandfather made you know my grandfather dedicated me to such and such a God I revoke in the name of Jesus I belong to Jesus my mind belongs to Jesus my body belongs to Jesus you know so they say all this so what are they doing they are opposing the demon spirit then it becomes easy okay so try doing that if you're ministering to them you're talking to them but then when you sense that their will is not there yet get it in order okay then continue then continue then the next thing to do is to ask them if they are not a believer then you ask them see when you are born again when you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ these demons have no place in you would you like to accept Jesus into your life okay now if they are already a believer that's another story it's you know open doors all that we have to deal with those things but if they are not a believer remember in Matthew 12 we saw how the demon comes out it goes and comes back with seven other wicked spirits and when the home is empty it occupies so how about we help them put their faith in Jesus then they are born again right the home is clean at least in that instance if we can help them usually maybe a little later on also we can do that in the post ministry time we can pray with them ask them are they going to any church are they connected with any good pastor if not connect them because it's very important we'll see post ministry care is very important whenever we do deliverance after the demon leaves it's not over you have to make sure that the believer is now connected in a place where the word can be filled into them the spirit work of the spirit continues in them otherwise it's actually dangerous because you you told them only half the truth they are free but they still need that guidance and strengthening okay so in post ministry care I'll talk about it but over there you can also lead them in a prayer for baptism in the Holy Spirit remember I told you about that lady we were holding her and then she held her finger and all that so after the demon left her we went and prayed with her it was so simple we prayed with we asked her she was already a believer then we asked her are you baptized in the Holy Spirit do you speak in tongues she said no it was so simple I still remember we told her just lay open your hands like this and I think one of us we just kept our hands we be baptized in Jesus the spirit of God just filled her she started speaking in tongues just a moment ago she was possessed by demons but you know a moment later she's filled with the Holy Spirit all this is very important once we minister deliverance because the person has to continue in freedom from the demon spirit so the fifth one is make sure they understand to make Jesus Christ their Lord and because when they do that they're what happens they're translated into the kingdom of God they're removed from the kingdom of darkness right so then they can experience deliverance lifelong so that is the next step now at this step let's imagine they say no I don't want or step three day step four they say no I don't want I'm fine don't pray for me what should we do threaten them or leave them yeah we can't help it we have to leave them the same punch over no no no no violence all spiritual violence against the devil that's all so yeah if they're not willing you say okay we'll yeah so we'll have to say fine yes Nina yeah sometimes evil spirit will talk through them no like I don't want sometimes it may not be them no yeah correct so that's why in the initial stage we are taking authority no we'll take we'll bind the spirit all its activities its manifestation so hopefully it will be the will of the person that you're trying to understand later so yeah it's very unfortunate but if they don't listen then what to do you have to tell them okay it's fine we can try but we can try counseling so you let them go on another occasion ask them come meet me just talk to them counsel them see this is going on how long do you want to but you have freedom freedom is available for you so counsel them till they are convinced right so that way step four and five are very important before we go any further alright okay so now let's imagine they are convinced yes see if I told you that one scenario in which they they've lost their mind isn't it either they are insane or they are something like unconscious sometimes you find that people are in that state they just cannot think in that state I can take full authority because that person cannot think only but if the person can think and they are unwilling you can't do it that's what I'm saying you can bring the mighty preacher and pray for them that demon will not come out because they want to keep the demon you know what I mean so it's all about agreement same in the life of a believer if I agree with Satan then things he can influence me but if there's no agreement only then we can break that is that alright anything okay fine so we understood that now I think one part I missed telling you when there is manifestation right we said that the demons may speak they may you know give different suggestions then we are saying no be quiet and Jesus name be quiet even at that point distinguishing between the person and the demon is little tricky sometimes the demons love to distract they'll say things like I'm so thirsty I want water okay we have to understand is it the demon is it the person sometimes these demons will make all kinds of demands they'll say oh I want to eat non-veg you know I want to do this don't get into it like oh really okay Swiggy don't do that because it's the demon asking you so just like you take it under subjection and you say stop all this okay because we are trying to get the demon out but it will distract us somewhere we may think the person needs it who person is asking for food they're asking for ice cream they're asking for all this but actually no demons do this they distract you so that point I missed but you know it can just be alert about these matters okay so now let us imagine that the person has accepted Christ into their lives what is the next step sixth one is it's like an interview okay interview is just ask and get answers to your questions so you say something like what happened what's happening from when is it happening so then you're trying to connect oh okay this person they are not able to sleep it's been two years when did it start it started when they went to you know a particular place of worship what did you do there somebody tied a thread on my hand so you're trying to figure out what what is happening why is it happening when did it start so that we call an interview because that will give you some understanding of what you should pray against isn't it so we can do that we can find out then maybe you know they they share yeah it's happening like this because I or I'm afflicted by demon spirits I'm always getting these voices in my head but as you talk to the person you may recognize there is an issue let's say unforgiveness this person is not forgiving others right so then when you recognize that you can deal with the issue then you can say okay brother you need to kind of lead them and say look because you're not submitting you know to God in this area or how about you just forgive them you can be very gentle put it in a nice way so that they're willing to accept it so we are we identify open doors we identify entry points sometimes they may say these habits you know I'm a believer but I still and maybe they share some addictive habit I have this habit I'm not able to let it go and I won't stop this habit and you can guide them you can tell them look because you're engaged in this habit these demons have access into your life you have to get rid of it so all these things we can identify when we talk to them okay do something like a little bit of an interview to know all these things and while doing it also ensure the demons are in subjection so otherwise the person will get hurt that is our concern now once we identify then the step seven is we lead them in closing these doors usually when we find that usually what happens we go straight looking at the ministry of Jesus and the apostles we'll go and we'll come and you demon come out in the name of Jesus we come in but because of all this you know entry points dedications and all that believe us sometimes we struggle demon is not coming out demon is very stubborn it's taking many hours then we think what is this Mark 16 Jesus said the neon in my name you will cast out demons demon is not coming out you know in my experience demons are not coming out because we're not doing it the right way so ideally it should be one step the command and it comes out but in practice these all all these things are applicable okay so the best thing is take it step by step as I said talk to the person counsel the person convince the person get them to believe in Jesus talk to them identify the entry point next is lead them to close those entry points so when we do that you will be amazed how quickly the demons leave why why do you think that happens once you have closed the door yeah so it's something like legal access they don't have legal access if you close the entry point you got it so that legal access is broken and they cannot demand to come in again so that is the reason entry point is very very key you break that dedication or sacrifice or anything like that so how to close yes yes yeah sure she is demon possessed okay what happened he was praying and praying and he's telling like in the name of Jesus come out in the name of Jesus go but nothing is happening so he was faster and he did his study because BTS in the study so I think he knows very well about like we are studying so he knows so he's not able to cast out demon okay but after one person he was he was believer so he went and he prayed okay and he cast out demon okay so why person not see there are many factors Nikhil faith remember we said earlier believers authority how we need to have faith and this is like that same Matthew 17 incident right disciples are not able to cast out Jesus is able to come why they ask him they say Jesus says cannot come out by prayer and fasting prayer and fasting will help your faith so that also is there ma'am I think because he's pastor he's doing ministry on only on faith no see I frankly I would not consider it as a failure at all because everything is a learning experience just because let's say I'm a pastor and we are praying for somebody now you may have all this knowledge or maybe the gift of discerning of spirits is operating in you in that moment so you pick it up faster than me okay and your command sets that person free there are many things a lot of dynamics are there so let's because I didn't command and a new believer commanded I won't think I failed what pastor I am you know this person did it I couldn't do it's a learning experience I will ask the question why couldn't I do it the way the disciples ask Jesus why couldn't we do it you ask God God why couldn't I do it what went wrong so maybe in that moment I realize I should have desired the manifestation of the discerning of spirits so next time when I am doing I will desire then that gift will manifest you understand so it can happen even if somebody is a pastor or something it may not work but at least we can try to learn from the experience is what I'm saying okay so that that is how we should develop ourselves as ministers of God now the audience people who are looking at us they may judge us and say oh look at him what is this let them judge it's okay okay so I'm saying this because it can happen to any of us right but you make everything a learning experience and try better next time so yes it can happen it can be because of faith it can be because of discerning it can be because of some command which was not issued in the right way so there are a lot of reasons why it can fail okay so we are at closing doors okay so how to close doors we can say if they are an unforgiveness we can say okay shall we pray together will you release forgiveness then they agree and you pray release forgiveness immediately the door gets shut or they are in let's say some kind of a sin then you ask them to repent together we pray heavenly Father I repent of this habit I repent of this attitude I repent of the sin in the name of Jesus please forgive me they have to speak it they have to speak it out aloud then once they have done this they can also use the word renounce renounce is you are rejecting any association with demon spirits and you say now that you have forgiven me God like I renounce any association with you can name the spirits the spirits of lust which have been operating in me the spirits of jealousy that have been operating in me the familiar spirit which has been operating so why do you have to say it loudly why do you have to say that if you if you say it quietly within yourself then there's less authority there is authority if I speak it within myself loudly okay so here's the point demons cannot read our mind did you get it demons cannot read our mind which is why whenever we are speaking to demons you have to speak loudly but it so if I'm commanding a demon I have to speak aloud if I'm renouncing any commitments allegiances you know things like that any sort of a dedication I would speak aloud to say that I am breaking this in the name of Jesus you have no hold over me in the name of Jesus I have to make it clear that is the reason you have to say it loudly got it ask them to be allowed to do these things maybe they have made some vows or some facts remember I was sharing how sometimes we say oh I'm always going to be sick or I can never do this or do that what have you done you've just made us you know a form of commitment which is not aligned to God's word God's purpose God's plan and it gives entry to some form of demonic activity or influence maybe fear maybe you know anxiety but why is it happening the person themselves has made a commitment or if you go into stronger things there are vows people make isn't it I will never get married something like that so when you made people make all these commitments I will I will not do this or I will you know I will hurt my body in this way all these are open doors for the devil and a person who has made it has to break it so we are helping them break it you pray with them and you say say it with me say it with me first lead them in repentance ask God for forgiveness then say with me you spirits you know I have no association with you I break that dedication which was made you and just go ahead said renounce we use the word renounce you have to do that and you do that only then it becomes easier for us to do go to the final steps the demon can legally be asked to the kid after this step so just give me a few more minutes today I know we're already at the end of the class session 8 is so when you have finished all this you can cast out the unclean spirits now that the doors are closed what is the advantage of casting them out now yeah they don't have access now they they just if only if you give them a room they can stay but when you shut the door there is no room they have to leave so at this point we usually use the word command okay you don't say can you come out please can you come out you don't have to you just come on okay like how pastor was saying how do you like if you find a street dog that's chasing you say shoot stop right so you just use your authority and say come out in the name of Jesus rebuke yeah we should review correct you rebuke in the name of Jesus and that way the demon will come out now even now if it's not coming out you're missing the previous steps you didn't close the right door you have to keep going back and checking something is still open why is this person not or maybe I need to pray more it's okay to say how about we close today let's pray close the session ask him to come back next week you go fasting you go reading the Bible and you know you build yourself up some more come back next week minister it's fine don't let anybody judge you for all this because we are also learning what is our goal this person has to be free right so think like that and you minister to the person and in the end once the demon spirit has come out we can lead the person in a prayer of praise and thanksgiving now some people also say you ask them to confess the Lord Jesus a demon will not confess but you know sometimes demons can lie also they'll confess and get away with it so that also can happen but yeah you really need to be working with the Holy Spirit to determine all these things but once you are sure that the spirit has left then you together with them praise God thank God maybe you want to sing a song or you know they may only need to worship many times they'll be crying they'll be so free after the after all the torment right it'll be so relieved that the demon left they'll only be worshipping God automatically so that also happens so just pray with them praise thanksgiving to God and tenness ask the Holy Spirit to fill them now what we'll do is we will take up the post ministry suggestions in the next session and let me see if I can cover some of the other topics also in a brief way if possible then we'll do only one more class if not we'll do only two classes but we'll be done alright okay any questions any thoughts you have to practice practice practical you need know so what I do is I just pray and I say Lord please help me now that I've learned this help me to minister to somebody so just pray for opportunities I'm sure you know you'll come across someone that you can bless okay anyway let's just pray and close would somebody like to lead in prayer father we thank you so much for this day for this time Lord and father we are so thankful Lord Jesus because of you we saw this time Lord and everything you provided us Lord Jesus and Lord what we learn today give us knowledge understanding wisdom then we can understand your word and we can apply Lord Jesus and we can do practically practical things Lord Jesus and we can we can able to cast out demons Lord Jesus we thank you so much for everything Lord Jesus you have given us everything Lord thank you so much father I surrender each one of you in your hand in Jesus name I pray amen thank you thank you thank you thank you everyone and yeah have a blessed day we shall connect in the next class bye for now