 Hello everybody and welcome back to esoteric Atlanta with my friend Catherine Edwards for our coffee chat. It's been a few weeks Catherine's been away. I died and was resurrected We've both been sick. It's uh, it's uh, it's been quite a few weeks But but but nonetheless, we're we're pushing through today. How are you Catherine? Well, I feel like it's not been a few weeks I feel it's been a few lifetimes and I've got so much to talk to you in the audience back today I've been so looking forward to this because when we say we make jokes about the whole world has gone mad It's gone completely mad. I had a trip to the states and Well, that's a where do I even begin? But yeah, let's kick off with some of the things we were going to talk about and we will bring in We will embrace the madness embrace the chaos. Yeah, it's I I feel like people have just lost Lost their sense of reality and I know that I've lost my sense of reality from time to time And part of a spiritual practice is regrounding yourself In that reality and we were laughing about the emergency Um broadcast that are the the the alert we got on our cell phones yesterday Here in the united states and you had asked me Catherine like what my thoughts were on it And I was like honestly, we get these things all the time Like and and this is what's so crazy to me is like it didn't it meant nothing to me because we get these all the time When we were children for you for you guys watching right now if you're an american Think back to when we were children before we had cell phones the emergency alert They would test it the they would test it every couple of months on your tv And so you would be watching tv and all of a sudden the screen would go It would be the rainbow color to go And it would do this emergency alert sound and say this is just a test repeat This is just a test of the emergency broadcast system This is just a test and it would last like 10 seconds 20 seconds And then it would go off and your show would come back on And so we dealt with these i'm 40 years old. I've dealt with these for 40 years There was not that and I was laughing with you Catherine because it went off yesterday at around two 220 and There's this great instagram Page that I follow and it's called southern humor humor And it talks about like southerners like how we can smell rain coming and one of the videos they show Is that a southerner will sleep through through anything we'll sleep through tornadoes We'll sleep through hurricanes unless the air conditioning gets cut off then we wake up You know and so it's so I'm thinking with it even with an ebs Most people the south are just going to throw the phone against the wall and go back to sleep anyway You know, so it's not even that handy of a thing to alert people I mean when you were in texas you got the amber alert, which is yeah I got it on my phone when I was in texas and I was like, what's this? How do I turn off because we don't get those over here? But I was laughing because I I haven't watched a lot of it, but I saw so many People and the truth is talking about you need to turn your phone off You need to wrap it in tin foil and this complete delusion now I think it was last summer There was a we were having a test of an emergency broadcast in the uk Which actually failed catastrophically because most people's phones didn't go off. So that was interesting But we had the same thing then with everyone saying oh, it's going to activate the graphene oxide in you You're all going to drop dead. You've all got to do this. You've all got to do that And it was just unbelievable price because I was on the day it was going off I was at wembley stadium watching a big football match for my daughter My husband and somewhere another big football stadium and it was like Look guys get this in perspective if they're going to do things like that How obvious would it be if they put an emergency stalker and everyone just dropped dead? I mean one that's just pretty silly really because it's pretty traceable to who's doing it Secondly, they've been putting these poisons in this for years and years and years and years if people just actually started looking about What's in their breakfast cereal? Which we're going to be talking about and another thing if they started looking at what's in your me Anyone who eats crept sticks or salmon and prawns about how that's nothing to do with it. It's all colored dyed everything so this delusion of It makes me so frustrated really And like you said it is really important say we've all fallen for it But isn't this like the main message of what we've all been talking about for the last few years Is once you fall in for once the idea is you learn from it Yeah, and you just keep repeating it and what i'm seeing is it's just repeated And then everyone keeps putting out as soon as someone puts out on their video This is not meant to cause fear. This is this it's like You don't say what you're not doing it shows it deep down. There is a cause It's like the people whose relationships always in the worst always posting love things to each other on facebook, you know it's like Honestly guys if we want to be taken seriously in any shape or form we've got to do better than this Oh, absolutely. I was just I mean I was cracking up yesterday or was it yesterday when the alarm went off because it's like I mean come on you guys like we We especially the americans like sit down for a minute take a deep breath Think about our childhood. How many times were you sitting? I mean because I know back in the 80s and 90s my sister and I used to sit right up on the tv screen Don't yeah, we've learned now because usually the remote was was missing so you have to change the channel By your hand, you know and how many times we would be watching a cartoon Or some show and all of a sudden it would just shut off and it was an emergency alert And they didn't send us back in those days. We didn't know when they were going to be doing an emergency alert They didn't tell us to do them. Um, you know, it's because people didn't have cell phones So most of the time people had a tv on so for us down here in the south If there was we get bad tornadoes every single year We'll have like three or four tornadoes run through and I laugh because we usually sleep through them Because that's how used to them we are but they can be deadly and so they run these emergency alerts to tell us If there was a tornado spotted for us to take cover There's a there's a reason why You know, not every single person in government is out to get you, you know, there's a reason why they run these emergency alerts I mean here in Atlanta, you can still even hear the factory Horns going off from time to time like you'll be out I'll be out walking the dog and I'll hear the the alarm going off at a factory And it's to signify lunchtime or time off But it's kind of freaky to hear it But we're so immune to that stuff that we don't even notice it half the time now And so when someone brings attention to it, all of a sudden it becomes it becomes the boy who cried wolf And that's what that's the problem Yeah, and I think you've hit on so many different things and I I don't think this is easy for anyone myself included In terms of this for me, it's the biggest learning curve. I'm still on over the last few years is knowing How to educate yourself to enough detail where you can be aware of what's going on Without getting completely extreme and ridiculous about it and it's a seesaw and it's a fine balance So, you know, one example of that is this is like water quality You know, I arrived at Dallas Fort Worth exit and I needed some water and all the water was just like added Minerals and vitamins and I was just like almost like in a straight trauma thinking I don't want to drink that but the end of the day you need water and your body's resilient And if you were drinking that water all day every day, you'd be in trouble But if you're just drinking it once in a while, your body can cope with it We've been coping with loads of stuff and this is the balance is where anyone that's on this journey And I'd love to know what works for people below Is not getting completely extreme about it, you know, we've took you and I are fascinated with cult behavior for this exact reason Is there can be very good ideas that can turn fanatical And this can happen in any aspect of your life And certainly we've seen it happening in the community that we've been passed on to And, you know, I don't care what people say. There's so much fear The amount of people I had a conversation with someone the other day and I know you and I've spoken about this before Bryce Is that do you know what some of the happiest people I know at the moment are the people that have no idea about any agendas going on They're doing their own gardening. They're walking their dogs. They're spending time playing with the With their kids. They're enjoying their weekend if they want to go and watch football at the weekend They're going and enjoying it because the whole spiritual journey on one hand Is all about being in the present moment and being here right here right now You mentioned right at the start about grounding yourself So important and it is a really difficult balance for people to say well, how much do I try and Understand what's going on so we can positively influence it and not be fooled by it for the rest of our lives But still enjoy our life, right? I agree and it's crazy and and I I agree it's um we My boyfriend calls it the jump conspiracy cul-de-sac And yeah, I mean it goes it goes back to that as I've said when I was doing my missing books of the bible We talked a lot about on my on my channel gnosis and edio Gnosis is inner knowing edio is outer knowing edio is like your education like your your book smarts Your but your gnosis is your inner knowing and the ancients used to believe that edio was great But it wasn't as valuable as gnosis and so what's tend to happen though is I've noticed in our community is that We know there are certain Realities in this world that aren't as as they we get that we're not saying that there isn't there obviously there are bad guys There are things going on we get that their religious practices are horrific. We get that However, what tends to happen is we have these trojan horse moments Where the bad guys will realize people are understanding this and so they'll send in a trojan horse Right, they'll send in false information To get you wound up and get you directed over into this junk conspiracy cul-de-sac. We are just turning circles While the real story is happening over here Yeah, I feel like the ebs that happened yesterday is another prime example of a trojan horse You know I don't in my like I don't think that there was anything to it But what they said it was it was just an emergency test. That's all it was there was nothing to it Same emergency test. We've had since the beginning of technology Since the beginning of my time on this earth. It's there was nothing nefarious about it nothing It just it is what it is But so many people get so wound up in the edio And they get stuck in this junk conspiracy cul-de-sac chasing their own tail That they forget to sit and do the gnosis and actually really ground themselves and think okay Let me think this through let me reflect on this for a moment because this is no different Than anything else that I went through as with an emergency system like as a child or anything like that And I think that's what the huge difference is You know When when and my boyfriend has said this before and captain knows my knows my boyfriend that sometimes when people wake up They really want to go back to sleep like there's this desire to go back to sleep Even if even if it's not conscious It's more subconscious and so what they'll do is they'll cling They'll go from watching like anderson cooper And having anderson cooper tell them how to feel and tell them their opinions to then listening to another youtuber Tell them how to feel and tell them their opinions and so by putting themselves back into this junk conspiracy cul-de-sac They've essentially gone back to sleep. They're just in another dream And so in order to have your own sovereign to your own gnosis your own autonomy You have to be able to take everything told to you with everyone even what we're saying with the grain of salt Into your own reflections and your own research into that so you can understand what's going on But also live your life. I mean captain. How many people on telegram? Have you noticed stopped paying their mortgages? Because they were told quantum was coming in and now they're getting evicted from their houses You know maybe it's happening to so so many people and again by our saying this I'm just bringing up whilst i'm speaking something that I posted. I think I sent it to you So many people work. Please don't get us wrong We're not saying it's not possible to look into the right way to not pay your mortgage We're not saying that at all But what we are saying is we're saying that actually there's an awful lot of really bad advice as well Um, and you know this sums it up I posted this on my facebook to sum up my 25 years or so of research Everything is a lie and I don't have a fucking link Because and the reason I love that is if I have one more person is the thing is is like We all have that in a no-sense And you get to a stage where you've done enough work yourself on whatever topic and it would be different for each first Because all our life circumstances different. I've got children. So 25 years ago I started um researching these big time for children because I was pregnant and I wanted to know If I hadn't have had children then I wouldn't have I'm sure I wouldn't have done that research So what I'm saying is we've all got different priorities because our different life circumstances Will affect what's a priority for us at that time in our life, you know now my children are adults I have my priorities have shifted completely again because they're making their own decisions for things now But the whole point about that is is some people you can never Can please everyone so some people want research on everything But if you want that research It's your job to go out and get it and there can people that can help you But it's not their job to provide it because if we're talking about a certain Subject, you know the information that price might need to convince I might be very different to what I need It's not our job and it's not anyone else's job and going back to the emergency broadcast Really controversial, but if you look at what's happened in Lahaina, you know, they didn't put off I know that wasn't the emergency broadcast system started It was the sirens and they didn't put them off and and quite frankly horrendous that they didn't And there was a lot of other dubious goings on there that you will know about But it's a bit your buggered if you do and buggered if you don't the fact that we've all got These that we carry around everywhere with us can be life changing. They can save a life You know, we don't have I've never had an amber alert for child go missing and it came up on my phone I was at Texas that was my child missing. I'd be so grateful that everyone had one of these in their pockets So if it's really important and you're really worried that someone can send a message Through your phone to exterminate you because we've all got graphene in us. It's not just in there, you know What's it's in everything, you know And you wouldn't know whether you've got it in you or not If you really believe that then you shouldn't be carrying one of these You shouldn't just be putting it away for one moment because if they really wanted to kill you They wouldn't tell you they were going to do it at 230 or no So this is what I mean is it's very easy to blame other people But if it's that important to you, I will not get in any electric cars For loads of reasons I will not get in one and the reason I don't is I genuinely believe I'm not asking anyone else to I genuinely believe that they're death traps because of the emf I believe they're like faraday cages and and I believe they could burst into flames I believe they can be trolled by nefarious people And I also believe in terms of a radiation side of things that absolutely lethal That's my belief and I feel strongly enough about that that I won't get into any of my friends cars I've got electric cars. Yeah, that's me. I know they can do whatever they like, you know Um, and I think this is the thing is that a lot of where we get into trouble Is because all of us have got really strong beliefs that we really believe in Yes, no, but there's a huge gray area where we don't really know what we think and therefore All the stuff we've blamed everyone else for saying I took it because my boss said to the doctor said to We've got areas in our life. We're doing that I've got my phone in Tim foil because someone on youtube told me to Yeah, it's the same. It's it's the same delusion that the norm that we complain about the normies having these delusions But the truth or community has some worse delusions. Yeah It's um, and then that's the thing too about like cult behavior as well is that Even Catherine even you and me sitting here right now saying you guys I don't think that EBS was what you think it is It's just a normal. We're going to get pushed back. We're going to get fair game Yeah, people are going to try to censor us because that's what cults do right? That's what cults do So you are in a community where you can't question the narrative or you can't question where you can't say to that youtube or Hey, I'm kind of suspicious that this EBS was not what you guys think it is It just seems really normal and you get censored for that or kicked out of the group You're in a fucking cult Like that's what cults do and that's one thing like I know Catherine I've talked about online We've I know both of us kind of want to remove ourselves From these communities because we want to be able to question the narrative whether that narrative is coming from the mainstream media Or from youtube it's still a narrative that's being sold And I want to always be questioning that because the minute you take the knee the minute you take the need to anyone whether it be The mainstream media or youtube if you're taking the need of somebody and not questioning them The minute that starts to happen. We're in trouble as a society, right? We It we can't see the point constantly Yeah, we've got to be with in a community if you've got a community You've got to be able to have this challenging discussion. So in the uk I don't know how much anyone in america will have heard but it's gone completely bonkers with People being censored. You've probably a lot of you have probably heard about russell brand and what's been going on with him Now you and I have had so many and when I'm saying you and I please don't think I'm pretending that bryce and I special Along with so many millions of other people have had so many conversations that's where we've said bryce Both things can be true. Yeah So someone let's let's just put a scenario out here because we've had It's gone mad in the uk bryce that something really weird's going on because we've also got other alternative media personalities that are now having their Home search like laurence fox for having said something about the cameras. It's really gone completely mad of Really coming down on people really hard But let's just take because a lot of people would have heard of the russell brand situation Because a lot of people in america know who he is as well now 20 years ago or even 10 years ago. He was a serious drug addict which he's talked about lows Now if any of you here have ever got really drunk in your life or ever been on drugs There will be times where you either will do things you're ashamed of or that you can't remember So there's a lot of people have got drunk and not been able to remember exactly what they did By me saying this i'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying it's right But humans do stupid things all the time Yeah, and hope you learn from them and sometimes you don't and you die You know Or you hurt someone else in the process You know, there's loads of people that have have sped in their car And if you're the unlucky person where an animal or a child's walked out in front of you and you've killed them You might spend the rest of your life in jail But there's lots of us that have sped in our car and touch wood been lucky enough not to have someone walk out in front of us So some some choices are more so someone could or could not have done something bad in the past And they might or might not remember that and I was watching a television program with my husband last night To try and switch off and you would not believe it was about a program. Do you have big brother over in america? Yeah, so this was about a very famous Lady in the uk called j goodie who was one of the first big brother stars And um, she was really famous and she ended up dying of cervical cancer So we were watching this program and it was heart wrenching But this was only 10 years ago and the way the news the press the the program Talk about her as a fat pig as a as a slut as this or that and the the things they showed it was Absolutely disgusting, but at the time everyone was laughing and thought it was accessible Now if you put today's standards on it, they'd all be in jail. They'd all be prosecuted. They'd all be So this is what I mean is it is Tobotans were true So someone could have done really atrocious things. I mean one of the reporters was saying I can't believe I spoke about her like this. I can't believe I plastered these pictures of her all over the newspapers I look back now knowing how where the regulations are now and I'm horrified. I behave like that But at the time everyone was laughing. Yeah, so it doesn't mean it's right It just means that someone could have had a really dodgy past But they could also have changed based on the information they know So look at when we're talking about the illuminati. Look at when we're talking about other Nefarious activities that are going on a lot of the people that we've learned from are people that have been in that life And that's how we know what's going on because if we haven't we wouldn't know about this abuse I mean, it's horrific. I've seen people talk about on certain telegram groups that anybody with particular last names should just be executed And it's shocking to me. I'm like that is what happened in world war two exactly because somebody has a last name means nothing It means nothing It's their actions and thank god we have people with certain last names that Are whistleblowers because they cared enough to try to inform the public about what their family You know how hard that's gotta be to go up against I mean, even if they're you know, even if you know, your family is full of psychopaths There's still a bond there because they're your family So to be able to to whistleblow to be able to call them out Takes a lot of courage. It takes a lot of courage and to see people Have just this disgusting. It's disgusting like any, you know, I've I've questioned a lot with like the the royal children Like what's gonna happen with them and people like well, you know, they should probably just be you know Whatever too and it's like these are children. These are babies They're babies and I think they're precious and I think that that if we're given the light the proper therapy and love They could be functioning members of society. They just need that love and that therapy They're babies. They didn't choose this just like you didn't choose your where you are. They didn't choose this You know, so I just it's almost like With with this delusional thinking and on on both sides, there's this sense of evil that's really shining through And that's some something we we just have to remember to be compassionate and fair and ground ourselves and make sure We're not following the crowd make sure we're not You know, what's that saying? Just because something's popular doesn't mean it's right. It just because something doesn't mean it's popular You know, you always have to be questioning your own integrity in certain things and so Yeah, it's um and it's okay if we we've all gotten lost in the crowd We've all gotten caught up in like the big whirlwind of emotion But to again to learn from that and say no, I'm not Even that's a form of spell casting and I'm not going to I'm not going to be a follower I'm going to be my own person. I'm going to listen to what other people have to say I'll listen and then I'll check myself. I'll go and check myself I encourage that all the time on my channel even with this the silly deep dives I do that don't really matter To today's world Still check it. Just check it for yourself. You know, it's it's um because your your thoughts are valuable And I feel like too Catherine. I feel like this is something our grandparents just knew to do I feel like this is something our great Just so completely we we've really lost it and our poor younger generations You know, how are they going to learn unless we learn to keep calm? Entertain a different point for you. I cannot tell you even as recently as last week, you know When you meet people, you know, you can have you can meet people on screen or hear about them Or see their circumstances and then the nature of humans is we will make judgments Yeah, it's a survival instinct to make judgments You've got to make a judgment all the time if you're a deer You've got to decide whether it's safe to come out and go and eat the food or not We're exactly the same inherent in our survival instincts Is you constantly have to make judgments about things all the time But the difference is is do you learn from them? And I can tell you I I still get it very wrong with people You know, I'll make judgments and then you have a conversation with you. I mean like Oh my god, and it's so true That saying that they say, you know every single person is going through something Every single person I had a really good friend say to me this morning about well I wasn't born as a confident person and and I you know Everyone's got their challenges everyone's pushing them out and some people are forced to do it more than others Because they've got horrendous circumstances which mean that it that it is literally do or die And other people are on live journeys this time when they're blessed enough to have a bit more choice in the matter But if we don't keep listening we'll keep making making the same mistakes again when I first heard about electric cars I thought well, this sounds amazing And then I'm gradually learning more and more but then someone might tell me something else that changed my mind again I don't know but I'm going to remain open to it because the one thing I do know is there's masses I don't know, you know, we're talking all about our history and Where we came from and things like this and Tartaria and free energy But we've got to stop talking about it and actually start using it and start doing it It's all very well Like you said this difference between the ideo and the gnosis and I think and I Guilty of this because I love researching stuff But then the test of it is how does it feel in my body? This is one of the mood Saturdays I can read up as much as I like about the ingredients and I can Believe or not believe what I choose to believe about the company and how good their manufacturing is and how quality control is But the end of the day the ultimate test is my body my mind. How does it feel to me? How do I react to it and that's got to be the ultimate judge for me Yeah, absolutely and that's something I feel like With it with and I love the ideo too. I listen. I was there's this instagram page I loved with a guy like me loves history and he's his family day guy and he's like, you know, I love history You get to gossip you just got stopped people from past like, you know, it's very entertaining But yeah, and so but yeah, it's also that the most important though is how are you feeling? And sometimes I think in our modern society We're so focused on ideo that we forget to check in with the gnosis and that children for example I mean, I've told you this Catherine. I stopped eating meat when I was 14 I didn't know what a vegetarian was But I just knew that every time I ate meat. I got sick But when I was five, I remember getting she-crab soup Which is big in South Carolina and the meat of the she-crab was still in the form of the crab You had to mush it up and I remember crying just yeah fit because I didn't realize at five That this was an animal. Yeah And so Knowing kids know, you know, I knew and even with eating meat later on when my parents would force me to I would feel sick afterwards Like yeah, and that's something so simple We see this with with food. How many times do we see people eat a raw apple? And then they have a stomach ache afterwards But they think because they've been told they've been taught to the ideo that this apple is good for them But they don't realize that they're vata and so their energetic principles can't digest The apple needs to be cooked and or but your body is telling you like this this isn't so but we've become so sweet We're trusting what's happening is we're like we're trusting people outside of ourselves That's what happens when we when we listen to the media instead of ourselves when we listen to a youtuber instead of ourselves We're putting our trust into somebody else and not within us for our own lives And so and that's sad that we need to claim that autonomy back and and again That doesn't mean you have to stop listening to youtube's. Please don't we love that you listen But you can question and you can research and it's a conversation I don't think there's anything captain and I know That's that's far greater than anything anyone one of you know, you know And I know I've gotten it when I first was getting big on youtube I would have people email me all the time asking me financial questions about the new financial system And I'd be like fuck if I know I'm not I'm not an economist like I don't I don't know, you know, just because I have a youtube channel doesn't mean that I know more than you it's just I wanted to talk about certain things and so Really just trust yourself guys and and come and ground yourself like ground yourself into who you are Not who some youtuber says you should be not who's some media or a celebrity person says you should be Who are you because you say that's who you are You know you hit on such an important point price I just want to reiterate if you're in any group, whether it's a friendship group Whether it's a youtube chat or whatever if if you're being shamed For politely asking a question or questioning something then you are in a cult End of you know, you shouldn't be shaming anyone you I do think there's a difference You know if you're if you're the type of person that puts something across really aggressively or insulting someone to make your Point that's completely different. That's a boundary and that's disrespectful But if you're in a respectful way asking a different question or whatever Or or have you thought about it from this point of view? I for one I'm really really grateful because I haven't got time to do all this research on my own I'm really grateful when people say well, have you thought about this and I'm like, oh my god No, I didn't actually Yeah, yeah It's awesome. I love when people put their opinions and you're right Like if you're going to be abusive about having a different opinion, that's one thing But to say hey, I have a question about this and have you thought about it from this perspective or what about this? That's awesome because that's how we grow when we learn to be evolved You know, it's why you know in you know, the american government we're supposed to have a balance of power That's one thing we're taught in school because there's multiple people In our government that are debating and that are voting together on different It's all these it's supposed to be an ideal world. We know it's corrupt now But that balance of power and that's what we have to have in our lives too listening to different perspectives listening to different Um different ways of seeing and doing things and then coming up with an even better way of doing that said thing Do you think people like um Like einstein or isaac newton if these people really were who they Will just say they were who they said who they say they were you think that they Were such great scientists because they just stuck to their own opinion and didn't listen to anybody else No, I'm excited They had to keep trying and failing and trying and failing and you know, this is what I'm saying, you know Obviously, I'm a health coach I work with people and their animals on the health side of things and you know You can say all that isn't but the ultimate thing is you have to do you have to try you have to make a change If you've got any challenge in your life and what every area the only thing you know for certain Is what you're doing at the moment isn't working. So you need to try something different You don't need to blame yourself up about it You don't need to come up with excuses for why you just need to decide to make a change and try something different And when you keep doing that and go into things you will find what's right for you, you know, you really well I'm laughing because for the americans you guys I don't know if you guys remember studying the articles of confederation Before we had our constitution they created what they called the articles of confederation And it was so little government that it didn't work They had to go oops and go back to the drawing board and write the constitution because Even our forefathers were like, well, that didn't work. Let's let's do this again We had so little government that it got I got unruly. So so it's constantly Yeah, and it's constantly I mean the greatest people that we admire our heroes our scientists our doctors The writers of the world that that we love so much. They didn't just come out doing incredible things They they questioned themselves. They they got knocked down and got back up again. And so that's what creates that greatness It's that resistance, right? The more you the more you screw up and you have to restart again It's like building up a muscle with the weight the more it breaks down the stronger it gets And so always put yourself in a position where you're able to ask challenge your own self And challenges around you because that's how we become not to sound cheesy, but that's how we become great again It really is it is how you become great again and also There's nothing more appealing than a a person that has got Not a lack of confidence, but a humbleness To admit when they change their mind when they cause correct it And I would really hope In this community for whoever it is that we can open it up to if someone's Needs to cause correct and has done something in the past be the bigger person come out and say it Come out and admit to it and just allow people to make that change because if all we want to do is keep the vibration of punishment Going then we're not going to create this new world that we're all hoping for so No, absolutely. It's it's the now one before we sign off guys cat kather and I have been talking to a lot of cult survivors Like claire headley Davey jackson like these are people who have very our friend kelly teal who have very much said I fucked up I joined a cult accidentally And and and I've heard kelly say with andrew gold like how embarrassing it was to realize But just just to own it and just to own it anyway and how many people they're helping by by talking about their story and so don't ever be That humility to be able to say I screwed up and and this is my experience So hopefully you won't ever have to go down that road too. And so yeah, absolutely guys. Anyway, um, kather What's going on in your channel? What's going on with you? Any new stuff for the We've got I've been really busy because I've been away traveling So it's been quite chart on my channel But for anyone that really talking about empowering yourself did a beautiful interview with my friend marina Who's a holistic dentist yesterday and she is a brilliant example because she was trained by the medical profession in the conventional way She had a freak accident Which meant that she had some time often decided to explore some different and then realize that everything she'd been told as a traditional Dentist was not great But she has the humility to share that journey and learn from it and course correct And I think everyone will get something out there interview because we it's very solution based I've got a couple of great people coming on next week Which will be different get new guests in my channels where they've been very much on the awakening journey And they're going to share some of the lessons they've learned and the tips for how we can Keep this open mind keep on this exploratory journey But still have really made the most out of our lives now not be putting everything on the back burner and waiting Um and also like you I've got an exciting new course coming through but next week We are hoping to do an instagram live. So for our coffee chat next week Please sign up to both bryce and my instagrams the links will be below because we're going to try an instagram live Because you'll be traveling and so we want to be able to do something where we can be more flexible on the location of it And everything yeah, make sure I'll put guys I'll put the description box below a link to catharine's instagram as well as my instagram I'm excited about this. I know we talked about going forward as well Perhaps doing our coffee chats as lives anyway when we come back to the youtube platform So if that's something you guys are so that you so we're not just talking to to ourselves So we can actually have an interactive conversation with you guys like we're actually having coffee together So let us know your thoughts about that um down in the comment section below and again I'll put both our our instagrams um in the description box You can make sure you're subscribed or subscribed follow whatever the word is for instagram Whatever it is. Yeah, I love instagram. Listen if i'm not careful I will sit on instagram all day watching people's reels People are freaking funny like there are some really really one of my favorite people ever you guys You'll have to find this guy. I sent him to catharine. He's it's white lady comedy It's this black guy who's a comedian who talks about how white women have this ability to like Animal whisper like he shows videos of these white women out there rescuing wild animals and he's hysterical talking about it Um, and so I love I'm really enjoying the instagram and all that the Cool humans that are out there that have really funny funny pages and I just I love it I I have to be one of the really sad people and I know everyone takes a piss out of it But I am a mad cat lady and for me. It's such a great pick me up. You know if you can If you're feeling a bit overwhelmed if you're feeling a bit down Go and look at some of the cat videos Because you can't help because the great thing is I mean I do find some of the dog and other animals there They could be verging on abuse to be quite honest Um, you know someone sent me one the other day and it was all this monkey and dog And I was like there's no way they do that those animals have been drug But the thing is if anyone first got cats, we know we can't force a cat to do anything So I've never seen a cat video on instagram that's made me think the cat's being abused So let me put it that way so I can relax and just enjoy them There is a really funny um here with monkeys and dogs That's funny because monkeys are in india and I you never see them What the street dogs and the monkeys interacting at all And I think the dog the street dogs know that the monkeys will will will kill them So they stay out of the monkeys, but there is one I could count this guy doesn't these voiceovers. They send him videos of dogs And he does voiceovers for the dogs and he's hysterical He says he's so funny. Just the dogs are just so innocent and just so Just so sweet and so, you know, um, so I love it you guys so make sure Always a way to cheer yourself up if you're feeling overwhelmed Go and look at some of those videos and you'll cheer you yourself up. Yeah So anyway, you guys all right. Well, um, let us know your thoughts and your opinions down in the comment section below Um, I hope all of you guys are doing well I know catheter and I have both been sick and I hear from some of you guys that you've been sick too So if you're if you're on the mend, please take care of yourself and um, and yeah, we will talk to you guys soon Bye everybody. Bye