 you're trying really hard to reduce your stress or to feel better or to, you know, in the short term, a lot of these things do feel better. And so the first step, you know, you really need some awareness. First, you need to notice, okay, I'm in this cycle. It's not really working for me. Maybe it is driven by some sort of control or avoidance. So having that awareness. And then here's the hard thing. This is maybe the bad news for people who are listening is that you also have to be willing to face that discomfort that's showing up that you're trying so hard to avoid. You know, so you may, there may be some sense of, I don't really want to do that because the thing that's hard for me is really uncomfortable. You know, it might be stress, it could be anxiety, fear, in some types of roles, it could be, you know, sadness or just your own fears about your own abilities or something like that. And so when you're starting to shift some of this, sometimes it's pretty uncomfortable to step out of those patterns. For instance, if the perfectionist lets go and says, okay, this is good enough, I'm gonna, you know, submit this and go home. They might feel a sense of, oh, I don't know, anxiety around whether it was good enough or not. And I think that can be really hard for people or the people pleaser are saying no for the first time to their boss. I can't do that project. Ooh, that's going to be really painful. And so that skill of willingness to feel, that's probably the primary thing that I'm suggesting. And that is so counterintuitive as well. I mean, I can imagine that right now, everyone listening is like face-palming and going like, what are they telling me? Like I should feel all of that yucky stuff. I've been working years to get away from it. If I'm finally productive enough, if I'm finally competent enough, then I don't have to feel that stuff anymore. But here's the catch. If you busy yourself day in and day out, running away from that stuff, you can't move towards what is really important for you, what is really giving meaning to your life. Because most of the time, you're just trying to numb out, run away, avoid and control all of these emotions. And what you're saying, correct me if I'm wrong, is to open the door and say, hey, look, I have a lot of important stuff to do. I know that I'm going to feel perfectionistic or anxious or stressed out about this. But why don't I allow that stuff to just sit there next to me while I'm doing those things that are very important so we don't at that struggle against the thoughts, against the emotions to our goal pursuit and our value pursuit. I think in a lot of our clients that we work with directly, anger is one of those emotions, especially as a man, that they're trying to control and move away from. And unfortunately, that those actions that they're taking, whether it's working hard or packing their schedule, or maybe it's numbing with some substances, the anger then spills out in other areas. It might be in your personal relationships. It might be towards your spouse. It might be towards your coworkers in a very passive aggressive way in your communication style. And oftentimes, it's really hard to identify, I'm just feeling angry about the situation that I'm in. I'm angry that I'm not achieving. I'm angry that I hadn't gotten that promotion this year. I'm angry that that project failed. And we find ourselves trapped by that anger, but it's really scary to admit that you actually are angry, especially as a man. Yeah. And I think that anger is such a fascinating emotion. Actually, as I'm going on my career, I'm more and more interested in anger, I would say, because I think that, yeah, people have to use their anger effectively. I often see people with burnout who are very irritated, just very frustrated and angry. But if you ask yourself, and it can be unhelpful when people get really stuck in anger, but if you ask yourself, what's my anger telling me about what's going on here? I mean, sometimes it's just random, like I don't like that person cutting me off in traffic or something like, you know, it's not that deep. But sometimes it actually can be deep. Like if you're chronically angry in your work role, there might be some sense of injustice, or there's something about the situation that's not working for me, or maybe your boundaries are being violated. I actually love to tune into it in a sense of, is there some wisdom in my anger? And if you can step back from anger a little bit and get some distance from that hot adrenaline feeling of anger, you can actually use it to think about, okay, what needs to change here? Do I need to speak up about something? Is there something going on here that's just not working for me? And if so, what am I going to do about it?