 Welcome back. Right now we're going to have a peek into what is happening in river state. The political climate seems to still be very volatile and we're being joined by former CPS to the deputy governor of river state and also the publisher CEO of Krishna reports. Good morning and welcome Mr. Gotswill Jumbo. Yes, good morning. Okay. My pleasure to be here. All right now we've heard reports about policemen occupying some places you know belonging to one or the other. We've heard rumors also or news rather also of two plenaries having holding at the same time people loyal to the governor and others loyal to the Federal Capital Territory Minister that is yes on weekend and we thought that after the apology after the it is a father son fight and all that there will be no problem anymore. Bring us up to speed what really is going on in river state. Okay, early morning yesterday we saw policemen in Bikini as an assembly complex and we learned that the maintenance of the house and assembly were sitting and then later we saw first release in our camp also that's the other sex and the past the group of confidence and the governor now that's two factions of the same house of assembly sitting and the previously the police was providing cover for one of the factions you know and incidentally this particular faction the speaker has purportedly been impeached and then there's also a streaming order on that faction not to go ahead with the attempt to impeach the governor and we saw that happen and then later yesterday we saw an originating summons with an order from the Federal High Court by justice on every justice Iowa you know put in an junction that's all good parties should suspend sitting you know so the issue raised in the region meeting summons you know I've been picking care of I've been addressed so in a way that we are now we also know that at the back end a lot is going on in both sides you know to push the different agendas but I think for reverse people for reverse people they are in a way pleased with the community the governor is going about and what is doing by focusing on governors will not seem to me after that incident of October 31st we're not seeming that the only other thing he has said was that it will be part of some issue and to be sorted out you know but we're not seeing distracts you know the age from the issues of governance that's at least what's happened so that's where we are now some people have also like drawn the attention of the police I command that's the police is supposed to be an independent you know neutral party in this circumstance so providing cover security cover for one part show no yes or send me that's like jumping into the arena and I think the edgy a doctor who needs to look at that you know the the place was damaged there was a prior incident and the governor you know you cannot fix in the place so why would the police they're supposed to provide security for the state in general we didn't allow anybody anybody at all to go sit there without the authorization of the chief security of states these are some of the issues that's you know coming up with the developments so this is where we are in the last step myself now but what is the leadership of the river state PDP and the national body saying about what is happening really okay we would not like had any comments from the national leadership of the PDP or the APC apart from intervention of mr. Chris and back then who had anything else so far the only other person who has spoken is the FCT minister who I said if he wants he will show the governor perfect you know so far in the zone and these are rhetorics that shouldn't come in from somebody like him there is a general expectation the river state that you know have been by virtue of the fact that he sat on that seat as governor of river states for eight years he is now in the class of statesmen of river states so everybody expects that fatherly post job that state money post job you know that elder state money post job that's what's everybody expects working and yes I'm okay at this point you know to exude you should not he's not supposed to jump into the arena the children fighting the boys fighting all his boys in the them as a family members he worked to bring him up as dobo no as speaker as whatever so at this point everybody should expect that everybody's expecting that he will call the size to order young men get back to work leave all these drama you know but we don't see that happening so maybe I can use this opportunity to speak to him directly you know that he should rise to the occasion he is as it is now an elder statement of great another statement in the vast states as a former governor of the state he should be able to douse the pension the governor has shown the economy to the governor has shown focus your governor has shown maturity he has refused to be dragged in any direction at all he has focused on governors and I can tell you that river state needs these peace the stability that you can get the 80s economic development was in a bear's for 80s there was no economic stimulants no investments not agriculture not anything just political rhetoric fighting genes you're no lawyer to that and no young people were being made to wear TCS of a staff for 80s and the governor is trying to jump start the economy of the state I think anybody who loves river states starting from yes we came himself who says it's reverse first the reverse interest is primary in his you know categorization of interest everybody should focus on supporting the government to jump start the economy of the states well where are the jobs even though you are working for several years some of them are not paid pensions were not paid there were no economic stimulants the state needs to get back you know look at the supposed mate of reverse the legal state look at what legal state is the common and yes river states and we're still having this issue PDP AP is PDP against itself PDP against APC and you know higher so these are the things so and it's good to also raise this issue the national leadership of the party PDP and even the APC that we can say having break fast to its should rise to the occasion should call everybody to order you know for this business a political solution else stakeholders in whatever capacity should be able to say no they get this off the table let's get back to governance elections are over politics in this over and all of that let's get back to you know the track of you know implementing governance implementing the givenance of democracy people need jobs people needs a stimulants to be able to you know fix back their businesses and reverse people are truly enterprising you know actually enterprising you know look at him going to some guy from to look at the possibility of you know we starting in some guy from some guy from was taking almost 50,000 workers and imagine what that's those to the economy of the state there was a banana farm at a local government that was doing 10,000 workers you know look at that what about the chair from what about the shoe factory at bowl you know these are things that were put in there by the previous government that we can heritage what did it do to sustain them you know and for the government to think of restarting this and several other things that needs to be done look at the heavy potentials the economic potentials investment opportunities are reversed it you know processes what is being done to reactivate them so so do we have the time in a reverse state to begin to do a catfight a power fight you know that kind of fight that cox in the village during the morning you know two three cox will come out in the morning and start fighting trying to assert supremacy on that particular day the next morning they will start afresh again we don't need that in reverse states we don't need that in reverse states everybody every stakeholder should be able to call parties to order and or you know the here this income I think he had this in his main intention of course his own side of the state the orashi region is bereft of developments bereft of the impact of governance for how many years you know criminals have been parading there you know kidnapping burning cars you know killing people and all of that so you don't understand his intentionality in trying to you know acts in the interest of the state to calm the situation down and I think that's a his brother and colleague much is how they should have to also drop on that what does he query games in terms of critical developments in terms of strategic development he all of the query a moha query protocol to be a pop where do you have the query people what have they gained in terms of development you know apart from flyovers that you are on top of the flyover traffic is free order the flyover traffic do so apart from that what else so I think that both camps of the house of assembly is time you know to drop to drop the the fight sheets they assault and get back to supporting the government and drive mainstream mainstream governance in reverse states that is what the state needs now and for me it's this comforting that the leadership of the PDP the leadership of the ABC the federal government you know they're not taking a definite stand on this and for the commissioner police in reverse state he just arrived and two three days after he arrived his men are going to provide cover for a faction of the house of assembly what are they up to is that the agenda why you came to reverse states everybody should work for the good of reverse state if the economy of reverse state is jumpstarted even the police will benefit even the police will benefit so these are the things that we need to put out there for people to focus nobody benefits from political crisis nobody it has never happened and it will never happen and then I also need to put it on record that no government of reverse state has been impeached and it doesn't appear that's important in tests we can have all the you know apparatus of the federal government federal power as we call it able to do that with all the powers at his behest was able to do that he himself got into office with a major the federal level and a major having been the DG of the ABC and Buhari campaign was he able to unseat Muike as governor of the states it has never happened and it's not going to happen and any attempt to make it happen will put crisis on the streets of river states and the streets of reverse state are not friendly are not friendly at all we know what river states went through in 2015 and this is not what she'll repeat this is not what she'll repeat well reverse state is you know in the same battles with Kano with Lagos with other economic hubs of Nigeria in the oil and gas capital of Nigeria is that where we should be stopping crisis so I don't know how the APC is going to wade into the matter because your your spoil might be there again so I don't know they may be praying that it should continue but this just gives a picture it gives a picture that possibly the PDP house in in in reverse state is divided against itself because even if the national national body of the PDP doesn't come to the to the aid of reverse people the local leadership of PDP should have waded into the matter enough to make sure that this problem is brought to the ground we were just talking before you came on board about the rule of political parties in governance itself and this would have been a very defining moment for the people or the leadership of PDP in reverse state are you telling us or can you confirm or deny that the reverse PDP leadership is divided just like the House of Assembly is divided and they the governor and the minister are fighting now so are they divided or are they still won well we can say yes and we can also say no in the sense that it is reverse people that populate PDP and I think I said in the last time you invited me here that reverse states has always been PDP every experimentation with any other party has no work it has no work they try different parties even work even under the administration that are making everybody all of course they were serving in that government you know railroaded us into APC I said now where are the APC people all the stakeholders where are they they are back to PDP so reverse states is PDP just like the legacy is APC you know the leader states that you just know we are the political alignment is just there you know litens you know how will I put it consolidated you can try to know that but it will deviate from that imagine they got states all of a sudden under PDP well but we found we saw that kind of a thing happening cross river state cross river was always a PDP state until Ben Ayade came and like you said railroaded everybody into APC and it has continued in that trajectory they are now APC so couldn't it happen in in reverse okay Ben Ayade did that while he was on seats not after he has left then Ayade did that while he was still governor of cross river states not after he has left so you cannot be on the seats and reverse it is PDP then now you are out of the seats and you want to use your stage to move reverse states to APC well at the center of all of this that is what is there because the APC is insisting that the FCT minister should move he should he has benefited from the party so he should cross over but being the kind of person he is we know him he wants that clouds he wants that you know demonstration of capacity so he doesn't just work simply only him and maybe with a few you know likeies to be able to see he wants to come with the government wants to come with the executive the house of assembly everybody and you know the senators house of red members you know you had him saying you know that he wants election forms for everybody you know in reverse states so that's where there's a crux of the matter but the the chain is like I'm saying that you know we can say PDP is divided because it's not everybody that wants to ponder to that some people disagree with that but they also are not reverse people are not a flippant that I don't like something then I come out and start in about it so that's why we're having you know a latent dissent latent dissent like people don't agree with what you're telling them but they're not speaking up they just want events to just play out and you find out that they don't agree with you so that is where PDP in reverse it is a lot of the majority of the members of the party are not agreeing to move into the APC APC has not been beneficial to reverse states which all that are made to put in for APC reverse states so far if not the most under the APC government there is no footprints not developmental footprints by the APC anywhere in reverse states they just did they took us when you talk they will talk about the Bonibode road the Bonibode road is being done by the NLN it is not an APC thing it is a company trying to fix up you know structures to you know mainstream to optimize its business prospects it is not an APC thing so there is no way in reverse state you say okay look at what the APC thing look at what the APC thing is the end of this is not here in my community in Boni that from Boni a lot of companies here on mobile NLNG the LMA oil total all of them are making so much money and contributing their 3% to the NBDC Boni has no footprint of the NBDC they talked about doing a deep secret it is not there they just can be some inspection checks one or two things and left nothing so reverse people will not will not be drawn willy-nilly you know bundle together like you put fish in a basket and carry them to the APC so they're not flowing they're not coming along that's why the FCT minister I think believes that because the governor of this is boy if the governor gives his word that this is where we're going everybody will follow because that is where the bread is coming from but that's not happening even the governor himself is he comfortable going to the APC where we're benefiting the most APC of NBDC you know so it is not happening that is why there is this friction you know and the friction will continue and at the end of the day amounts to nothing this is reverse things reverse state is not just any state where you just pack people okay you know imagine with the developmental profile of amici with the political clout of amici which the the streets credibility of amici he could not sustain reverse people in APC so let me let me just our time is up but if you can confirm or deny just say yes or no answer if it is possible a lot of talk has gone round that amici is trying to return to the pdp can you confirm this okay as far I think you asked me the same question last time and as and then we are still watching airports I can I can say for sure that with what is going on with what is going on it is very clear that if not by his own intentions a lot of stakeholders across the Niger Delta wanting back in the pdp to provide the leadership the pdp needs to be able to move at the speed it should move pdp is the only party that has benefited reverse things and across the Niger Delta check buyers are checked they are checked and don't check other states pdp is the party that has you know done this thing I'm a journalist I watch from the spectator stand I'm not I'm not political but I am just telling you from observation this is where it is so yeah they are dragging amici down amici actually is you know is more interested in meeting the political scene let the players are not to do their thing but the influence is saving on him to come back and provide the kind of leadership that pdp needs so that's where we are and that is also at the you know the undercurrent the heart of the matter behind the crisis in river state I see okay thank you so much mr jumbo for coming on the show this morning and giving us insight into what is happening in river state thank you very much it's my pleasure okay we've been talking with mr gods will jumbo former reverse cps to deputy governor he's also the publisher and CEO of christina christina reports and this is where we're up on the show this morning until we meet again tomorrow for another edition of the show my name is nyam gul aggadion on behalf of the team saying thank you for being there