 It's so stupid it's positively Yep, Sheldon ain't got Andrew Schultz. We are a brilliant idiots. Um, hello Another week of I guess partially quarantined at least I'm still quarantined. I don't think so People out there bro. It seems like people are out there. Have you have you seen what's happening in these streets? Let's let's get right to it. Positively brilliant. What a fucking idiot Positively brilliant the media man But a media is like, you know, you be watching Netflix and Like, you know, the Netflix will tell you the um, do you want to watch the next episode? Whoo Media don't even do that shit. Media is like corona corona corona corona police brutality police brutality police brutality police brutality protest protest Riots riots riots Donald Trump Donald Trump Donald Trump Donald Trump. It's like what the fuck? Ask us if you want to watch the next episode. Uh-huh. That shit is crazy Yeah, and and it's amazing how they can totally make you forget about what you was just scared of Oh, yeah, we were all terrified of being together and being outside and now what we're all terrified of not being together With people outside. Oh my god. Yes. No, the fuck is wrong with you, bro? You asshole. You're selfish Yo, did you go outside the fuck is wrong with you? You asshole you selfish. That's the same thing within a week Yeah, I definitely put those people on the what a fucking idiot segment, you know, I mean Like I just don't think that's right like you can't call out people for Not being at protests or being on the front lines of protest because everybody fights different and you don't know what people are Doing, you know, I'm saying you might be calling somebody out Who's paying for the funeral of the family? You might be calling somebody out Who's paying for the family to ride on their private jet from state to state to get to the funerals? You know what I mean, right? You might be calling somebody out who's on the phone with the governor, you know I mean telling the governor make sure that these you know, rest of these cops get arrested You know make on the phone with the governor or the police chief or the mayor saying yo y'all better Motherfucking go lock that dude up. You can't just be calling people out Just cuz they're not on the front line and and furthermore mm-hmm Who gives a fuck with celebrities got to say at a time like this brah that Dave Chappelle joke is keeps on coming back Right, it keeps on coming back keeps and it applies more than it applies the more than just gyro So true So true. Yeah, it is interesting. It's like not everybody can be on the front lines doing brave acts of You know of activism You know like posting a black square on their Instagram feed like doing courageous things like that Is or is very difficult for a lot of people, you know that they didn't explain that one too well I don't I don't want to put them in the water effing idiot part of the show only because you know It was a it was well-intentioned Mm-hmm, but they should have came up with another word other than black out because what they were trying to say was all Black everything that's what they should have said. They should have said Today is all black everything make sure that you post black news Which is also kind of weird because It's all black news anyway, what else we post in bro like what else should we put like I mean it's just Yeah, but when people post a selfie and like I actually like when people are posting selfies and stuff like that during this time Because you get to see like where they are and where they exist and what world they exist in so it's really nice It's refreshing when someone posts like a duck lip picture and then would a swipe up to their fucking only fans during this time You get to see where their priorities are and isn't that nice. Don't you want to see that? Why are we bullying people into? Not showing us who they really are why not let people expose themselves and then take no like oh, okay That's how it is. All right I see but but but also if we do that and we're acting just as programmed as the media, right? elaborate Meaning like if we just switch with whatever's going on like if you wake up in the morning and you want to post a Funny meme are you not supposed to put post a funny meme just because of everything else that's going on in the world Why can't you do both? Why can't I post a funny meme and then if I want to post something about you know the protest? You know post something about dismantling dismantling white supremacy. Why can't I do that? Nobody gets mad at Ben and Jerry's Ben and Jerry's can have one post about their new goddamn You know freakin strawberry nut crunch ice cream and then the next post can be about dismantling white supremacy Why do we act like we can't walk and chew gum at the same time? Yeah, I think that's I guess that's yeah, I could see that I could see it I don't know. I think I think we're just in this situation where especially white people are in this situation where it's like look Best case scenario we want to help in whatever way we can okay We don't know how to fucking help Nobody's really telling us what we can do to help, but we want to fucking help Worst case scenario. We don't want to look Bad and we don't want to look like the person that they you know They really are which is someone who doesn't care So they're gonna do the bare minimum and then this blackout Tuesday thing came along where it's like they gave you a Perfect opportunity to do the bare minimum and seem like you're part of it Yeah, I feel like that's why I was so crippling because everything was trending. I think in the right direction There are all these all this good positive protesting clips that were coming out to refute all the fuck shit The media was putting out because every time you turn on CNN is somebody breaking a window or somebody breaking a car is rarely You know a bunch of protesters Protecting a police officer that got like left by himself You know you're rarely gonna say that imagery so we were posting all that on social and we were doing a great job of like Balancing this race war that the media wanted to push down our throats. I don't think it's a race war though No, no the I think I don't think it is a race war I think it's actually one of the most unified times in American history if you go to these protests You'll see these protests you see how unified people are white black whatever. I mean they robbed the van store I don't think that was black people. Yeah, I listen Listen to things the blackout was Intent was good, right? They wanted to put a pause on sharing your art and Promoting your work and they wanted to use that silence to amplify the voices the work and the message of the black community By the way, but you're the people I follow they're already doing that anyway They wanted you to share post and work by the black community link the organizations you can donate To to our fine resources share book our video Recommendations share a piece of history post about music share how the black community bought so many genres the life call your local officials I'm gonna tell you something. I just realized whoever created this They're not using a social media, right? They just described how I use my social media all the time and have always used my social media Hey, would you like us to go to the grocery store and then get groceries? Hey, you know what we're gonna do Tuesdays We don't go to the grocery store and we only get groceries at the grocery store It's like this is what's been happening. I don't think that I was looking through social media and going oh my god It's disgusting the way that we're presenting what's happening right now. I was looking through social media I was like damn, you know, this is some wild shit happening out there. Everything was training perfectly I think it was an idea that came along and I think it got co-opted and maybe I'm a little bit conspiracy theory Schultz II right here, but like I think It just so happened that on the same day Trump was about to unleash the military on these cities, right? That was yesterday. Yeah, exactly. Yesterday was the blackout. Well, it's Thursday right now So but we're recording Wednesday the day before the day before was Unleashing the military not he talked about the day before and then the next day was about to happen And that's where you saw all these military trucks and in military cars all over cities Around the country was the speech in the Rose Garden. That was two days. I was two days ago It was a speech in front. It was yeah It was a speech in front of the church, right? So it's like so the next so the same day that's gonna happen is also the same day Hillary Clinton is on trial Right and is a Democrat rule. Yeah See, that's a thing motherfuckers don't know shit. I don't think that's true hundred percent go look right now She's on trial for the go. I saw people saying that but I'm like if Hillary Clinton was on trial I feel like that would be front-page news everywhere. I wonder why I wasn't No, no, even On trial doesn't mean she's being tried and she's being found guilty of something means that she's being questioned I guess in this trial I don't know if that's true. Let's look it up. Yeah, I saw that I saw that floating around But it's also the same day as a primary, right? So it's like there's these three things the primary They're these three things happening that 100% You if you're the powers to be you do not want people posting about Right like you already there's already all these posts black people made the blackout say again Black people created the blackout. It doesn't mean just because black people create something with the best intentions doesn't mean it can be co-opted by a bad Partner if you will and it can be pushed in the wrong direction I think they just used the wrong worker what they were literally trying to say is all black everything That's all it's like a dress code. Yes, but when you use the word blackout, you think okay So I'm supposed to be silent. What do you mean put a pause on things? They didn't think it out all the way That's really all it boils down to if they would have just said Look all black everything on Tuesday. Make sure you flood flood your social media with the most positive black imagery You can find the most positive black stories most uplifting black stories pieces of history that can you know tie into this time Do that post organizations that are you know bailing out people in these various places These protests in these various places if they did that that made more that have made more sense. It's that turn It's that word you say blackout You think like media blackout Yeah, it was poorly worded again attention intention is is great and I try to judge people on their intentions, but When you have matters in this say what I said intention is great But execution matters more execution matters more especially and I think now everybody is back on to it But like I don't know if if the powers to be like and again This sounds a lot of conspiracy stuff, but you see a lot of videos of you see like these bricks just being kind of like Popping up in neighborhoods where these riots and protests are gonna be Have you guys seen this see the pictures of this like my boy Mark was just on the walk in the protest And he looks over to this building There's just this group of bricks next to the building right in front of the building. I'm gonna tell you something man It's like what I'm not I'm not saying that's not a conspiracy shows all I'm simply saying is there's a person Who's not born and raised in New York? Who got here in 2006? I personally see shit like that all the time. New York is always under fucking construction Literally, there's always some lumber bricks Piping. Yeah, there's always some shit lying around in New York. No question It's weird when it's not covered up or it's half covered on purpose it's weird when they just show up in areas where there doesn't seem to be any construction and Also, we know bricks are flying through windows. Where are they getting them? They went to the brick store They went to Home Depot Who's walking around with a brick in their backpack all day just waiting to throw it into a Louis Vuitton Listen, all you got to do is go you saw the video the dude of the well They handed it to the woman and the black woman chased down the car was like yo stop giving bricks to people What the fuck are you doing? All I'm saying is the the the best intentions are often co-opted by bad actors And if you don't think that there are people out here that are not are trying to exploit this tragedy There's a lot of different ways to exploit a tragedy, by the way Let's I mean you got coin tell pro coin tell pro is always existed quite a pro. That's what they do They're there to disrupt peaceful protests. They're there to disrupt peaceful engagements. That's that's what they do But I think man, I think what's so different and unique about this situation. This is not one situation. Yes The brothers name is escaping me Big George Floyd, right? Yeah George Floyd. Yeah, Rest in Peace George Floyd. I've been trying to figure out Why this particular situation has touched everybody so much, right? And um Somebody was exposed one of my white friends was explaining to me just now the older white guy He was like man, he said I think it's the fact that it was nine minutes long like it wasn't like a Quick situation where you could think okay this guy reacted Too soon or reacted too ferociously like this cop literally just sat on this guy for nine minutes The guy had his hands in his pockets He was screaming for his mom like you're looking at that like you know, this this is just Stone cold murder so it touched people in a different way So of course that's gonna make people react right on top of everything else that's going on in the world and all the other Police killings we saw but once again, we're forgetting man 40 million plus people are out of work Unemployment rate is about to touch 20 fucking percent. Yeah, people been sitting home for three months shots They got shit to do it's like being in fucking high school for four years and your parents don't let you go nowhere It's a pressure cooker dog. It's a pressure fucking cooker. Are we not paying attention on what's going on in America, bro? And this is listen, I again, I don't want to get conspiratorial I'm just saying there's a when you have a pressure cooker like Corona when you lock people inside, right? I always look at like who are the people that can benefit the most from a situation, right? Corona you have people locked inside Okay Then you have a situation like the Amad Arbery Video that drops, right? That happened and that that happened in February that happened in February But we get the video. How how much later? We don't came on me May very March April March April May so you got three months later we get the video what they they had been trying to get the video But um, they couldn't find it and then it's like, uh, I don't know if they said that they were floating it around on like the dark web Like those dark web white supremacist sites, right? Yeah All I'm saying is like You have this pressure cooker people are ready to explode and then the Arbery thing came out and the Arbery's thing Seems as if it was kind of like held and then released later right The pressure was built. Maybe they thought a once this Arbery thing comes out The pressure is built you can have people in the streets rioting and they didn't It was actually the George Floyd thing that happens next and that's what gets the people to fucking explode and it makes sense Yeah, I mean before that you have Breonna Taylor. Yeah, exactly. I was like two more people after that Not only just Breonna Taylor like yo Some cops killed somebody in Louisville this week like I mean stuff like this happens all the time Yeah, you know, you never know when when you're gonna have these watershed moments that capture the heart to everybody but That's one aspect of it You also have all of these unemployed people who don't know what their next fucking meal is coming from like Yo, if you can't pay your bills if you can't pay your rent if you don't know how you gonna feed your motherfucking kids Bruh, it's only a matter of time before you bug the fuck out You think you you surprised people are looting at a time like this, right? Really? I was reading this article In the New York Times called the moral ambiguity of looting and it talks about the three levels of looting and the first level is You loot for food for survival. The second level is you look for merchandise The cell so you have money for survival and then the third is just rampaging mayhem because you're fucking angry You're angry that you're in this position in this situation and Don't discredit the people who are just pissed off at this fucking administration Who are just pissed off at the fact that this administration has put them in this position The fact that they don't like the energy this administration is giving out I think it's like it's a part. It's a perfect storm right now, but yeah I think when you're looting for food because you have to eat. I don't find it as bad because your Ability to make a choice has been removed by the fact that you need to eat something So it's like I think in order for something to be truly truly wrong You have to make the choice to do it knowing that it's bad. It's like if I have to feed my kid I don't have a choice. I have to feed my kid, right? So when I go steal an apple from the store even the store owner might look at me and then look at my kid and go All right, I understand the situation you're in right and some could make the argument Might make the argument that like black people are in that situation Right by people are in the situation where they don't have a choice where it's like this is black not just black people Good sure. It's think about all the puts it's more poor white people in American and black people sure sure like poor poverty is poverty Sure, the tricky thing with looting like there's different levels. We're bringing it down Like there is protesting right peaceful protest. There is rioting which is like throwing a Brick through a window or breaking a window of a thing can't be mad at that either now. Here's then there's looting Looting I think is a thing that most people Have the hardest time accepting because it's impossible to look at looting like it's not Enriching yourself off of tragedy depends though You break it down for me because for me if you see somebody Going into Louis Vuitton and then taking some bags. It looks like you're trying To get wealthy or get merchandise or get money off of a tragic event That seems selfish not selfless when you throw a brick through a Louis Vuitton store a Louis Vuitton store That you might never be able to shop at because of the systemic racism that you've Experiencing your life and the oppression you experience in your life and it stands as this It stands as this like barrier of class that you have to look at every single day when you do buy something in there The fucking bitch behind a counter ask you for your ID. Oh, you pay with your credit card Do you know I'm saying that word at a time like this say what you still using that word at a time like this I never stopped the B word Stopped bro. So it's like so it's like I understand that a little bit more because you're fighting the powers that be right Um That kind of resonates with me a little more But when you steal the thing you're looting like let's say Jeff Bezos Raised the price of everything on Amazon during this time to me that's looting. It's like you're taking advantage of this tragedy You're taking advantage of this tragic moment hypothetically. I don't think he did but let's say he did I would be like Oh, you're looting or like that bitch that was that took a picture as she was like fake helping to put the wood on the windows Yeah, I could not I'm glad you explained to me. I don't know if everybody keeps sending me that video I don't think I don't get what's happening. She's looting. She's just looting in a different way If you're an influencer and you make money with the posts that you post on Instagram And you're taking a picture at the protests and tagging the fucking jeans that you're wearing or you're taking a picture bordering things up You're looting. I'm not mad at that. No, no, it's not about whether you're mad at or not It's the same feeling of disgust that we get when we see people doing it. We're like, that's not what this is about That's not the cause that's not why we're protesting and you're doing that for you You're not doing that for the people that need it You see Now I get what you're saying and nothing you're saying is wrong I just don't think we can generalize because we don't know like what if I break into the Louis Vuitton store Because I want to grab for a Louis bag because I know I can take them back to the hood and sell them for fucking $1,000 a pop now I got $4,000. You know what I'm saying are if I'm a person who Literally has been one of the one of the have nots in this country forever I'm a poor person in this country this capitalist country has showed me all the luxuries I'm missing out on right the rappers rap about it the Kardashians wear they run commercials for it I drive past the store all the time and I daydream about having me a goddamn Louis bag I've been down and out for three motherfucking months in my house depressed That shit might mirror me some joy And I'm not saying that's right. I'm just saying I can understand the mentality Yeah, I can understand the mentality of somebody like Doing something for joy at a time where they're feeling really sad, but I don't think it makes it right I just think their levels to wrong. They tell us about they tell us about retail therapy, right? They tell the rich about retail therapy. Retail therapy is a form of self-care Yeah, what a rich you want to know some real shit that nobody's talking about right now Yes, when you loot Louis Vuitton and you loot the fucking gap and you loot Prada you loot all these stores, right? You got taste you got taste You might be saving them money these stores are insured for all their glass and all that kind of stuff there, but None of these stores can sell their product right now because of corona. You can't go into the store, right? So what these places do what Louis Vuitton does and all these fancy brands what they do at the end of a season? They burn their clothes. They destroy their clothes They have them cut up and everything because you can't depreciate the value of those clothes by putting them out in the open market, right? Mm-hmm. So when they burn those clothes, they got to pay to have those clothes burned and cut up and destroyed, right? When you go in and you steal or light them a fire or fuck up all the clothes Not only do they not have to pay to get their shit destroyed They get paid by the insurance company So you're actually helping Louis Sometimes they put a certain amount of merchandise in the outlet, but the super fancy ones that have to like maintain their quality They don't in the same way that you don't just like throw diamonds out in the market because you got to control the value of the diamonds So in a weird way you could be helping these fancy stores The looters don't give a shit Yeah, they got they Louis bag they got they vans. They are happy and that's honestly I think it's I think the looting is three things. We're not even three of course food for survival But then you loot because you might want to get something to sell are you loot just because that shit makes you feel good Yo motherfuckers are depressed right now like literally I said that Michael Jordan should Open a building somewhere in New York and just put Jordans in that shit and let people loot legally Like just let them get off Like for real because people are depressed. They got you know stress They've been in the house for three fucking months and I'm not making excuses for it at all I'm just saying if America can't understand why this is happening We really have a problem in America because we really don't understand the plight of the poor We really don't understand the plight of the have not I think it's hard to understand the plight of anyone that's not you Very true, you know, I guess like yeah, you like you know when like rich people complain and the rest of us are like Man shut the fuck up Like I don't want to hear about how your yacht has got barnacles on the bottom of it And you got to get it cleaned and that's difficult like I can't understand that plight, you know It's hard to understand the plight of anybody. It's not you. You know what we can understand when someone say what? poverty That's why it's so unified out there now I don't know. I think it's like it is death like it's like seeing that guy get killed and get his life stripped away It's like it really taps into everybody's values And I think that's why there's such a unified front about it is because you see conservatives going Okay, this guy's civil liberties were completely stripped. There was no due process no innocence of proven guilty And you see the Democrats who have been saying look black people's civil liberties never have never been there for the beginning Like so you have both sides going. Yeah, we agree with what happened in this story Yeah, and I mean even that's that's that's the other element too, right? Like you said it I think earlier you said it was a the media was making it a race war. I don't think they're making it a race war I just think that for the first time ever I Can't say ever first for the first time I've been alive People are finally recognizing white supremacy They're finally understanding systemic racism Yeah, I mean I want to get to your question Tara, but just out of curiosity I just say so so go on that explain that I think people are finally understanding it. They're finally understanding that this country was founded by rich white men and That is who always constantly Benefits in this country. I can even even somebody like Donald Trump represents that for a lot of people, right? Because right now Donald Trump now Trump is making everybody feel like niggas because he's oppressing everyone Everybody feels oppressed everybody feels marginalized. They're making you're telling you in the fuck to go home. Yeah, I'm saying He's taking food off your table now. He's got starting in the military coming through your neighborhoods and coming through your town So now you feel shook to death. You're scared in your own country Welcome to the ghetto Welcome, you know, so I think for the first time in a long time by the way, very impressive of Trump Gotta put him in the positively brilliant Never seen a white man. I'll white man the white man Never seen it never seen it. I've never seen a white man Marginalized other white supremacists never seen it bro. What you mean never seen it He is making other white supremacists feel marginalized They can't control him He really I never knew a president had this much power. Yeah, I Never did did you honestly? Did you think did you know a president had this much power? To to what tell everybody go to bed Just to do everything that he does the executive orders the fucking Still keeping his businesses when he's president like he does what the fuck he wants to do. Yeah, I didn't know it was possible. I did Yeah Yeah, I don't know. I don't know I mean, I I think he's in a really interesting sit a really interesting place and I think that like He's fumbling this brute like brilliantly like I don't know if you can fumble something brilliantly He's doing a very bad job with this a horrible job And it comes right on the edge of him I think about to get a lot of black support. It's kind of interesting time And I think he was this close like right after Biden's fumble with you I think black people if if Trump came through with an amazing plan for black America right after Biden's fumble I think you would have seen some black people go. All right, let's see what this guy's about He would have a slight bump nothing crazy though I mean he like but he doesn't need anything crazy like he um in 2016 he had 1.6 million black people vote for him and so I think his numbers are at like 3% All he wants to do is get out like a 9 or 10 That's all he wants. So if he If he got that right, I mean, it's really interesting timing because if he got that you would have seen Or if he took advantage of that moment, I mean it would have just really destroyed the Democrats and now I think the Democrats are in a situation where Biden doesn't have to say anything. No, he does. That's a lie. No, that's a fucking lie. You think Joe But yes, Joe Biden still has to go out there and beat Donald Trump And I'm but did you hear what Biden said in the in the in the speech that he gave you was like You don't have to shoot an unarmed person in the heart shoot them in the leg or the arm He didn't he didn't say that in that's what he said He did say that quote, but he didn't say that in that speech his When he said when he was walking around he said police shouldn't shoot in the chest They should shoot in the leg I read that quote and I said put Biden back in the fucking basement right now son I put him on the day on the day when Donald Trump Says he's gonna wage war on the American people on the day that Donald Trump says he's gonna make America into a military state Why are you talking about this and why would you say this of all things? And why isn't the streets protesting cuz they don't want to see people get shot period He's telling you where you're gonna get fucking shot with his top gun glasses. Take those fucking glasses off, bro You're not a pilot. This guy's driving me crazy, man. Who's dressing him? Who's dressing Biden? Who's dressing by we need to get to the bottom of this who's dressing by them, bro His ears are sticking out more than mine when he puts the mask on it's not a good look for him at all And right now when it comes to being presidential, you can't look like Alfred E. Newman. That's what he looks He looks like he's a mad magazine cover with that stupid fucking mask on He gave a listen he gave a good speech I'm not gonna go so far as to call it politically brilliant But he said a lot of the right things a lot of things that I've been wanting to hear from him Cuz I was waiting for I was waiting for Joe Biden after he came on breakfast club and did the UA black shit I was waiting for him to and I think I said this last week Remember when Barack had to give that speech after Reverend Jeremiah right where he had to talk to like older white voters But everybody heard Reverend Jeremiah right and they was really afraid of Barack after that So he had to give this whole speech to all the white voters and let them know I'm gonna be America's everybody's president Yeah, yeah Joe should have did that with black people after the UA black shit and he did he did if you listen to the speech in Philly It's 22 minutes of him saying how he wants to end systemic racism. He wants to make economic. He wants an economic Justice plan for black America He adopted one of Hakim Jeffries bills. I came Jeffries is a black politician from Brooklyn who had this build that Bans chokeholds and he mentioned Hakim by name and said y'all want to this bill should be getting pushed through in the next three days It shouldn't have to wait till I'm president So he he was really leaning on blackness the way that he should and I said this last night on Anderson Cooper if If Barack Obama was John F. Kennedy Joe Biden Can be Lyndon B Johnson? Lyndon B Johnson was a person who was a known racist, right? He was JFK's vice president He was a known racist, but when you look at his record, you have to pass the civil rights bill, didn't he? Passed the civil rights bill. Yeah gave black people voters rights Put Thurgood Marshall on the Supreme Court when you look at his record son Why people are great record of any well, no not all people are great even when we're races We're not races. That's fucking diversity dog. Like think about it Hold on till he's trying to get excited But I'm just say Lyndon B Johnson has the most progressive record of any Democrat when it comes to race in class probably over the past 80 years Like probably yeah, I mean FDR. Maybe you know what I'm saying, but sure But that's impressive from him Because he was a racist, right? So you're saying if if Lyndon B Johnson could do it Joe Biden definitely can fucking Joe Biden definitely can do it because you don't maybe believe at your core that Joe Biden's Racist Joe Biden has created a lot of racist legislation. Is it possible that Joe Biden forgot that he's racist? Like maybe he was truly racist, but he forgot all about that shit and now he's like nah, I'm not racist, bro I believe everybody's equal because I will equally forget about all you motherfuckers by tomorrow I Wondering if a lot of these guys was like Charlemagne you're black like Listen That's a good point, but I'm wondering if I'm wondering if a lot of these guys are men of the time Maybe we're all men of the time, but go on go on go on. Yeah, that's what I mean We're all men of the time like you can go back you go back ten years ago We were shooting from where we can shoot from from the From the logo Pull up from the logo from the logo, baby Record on the podcast within the first five minutes both was like And you know a minute of time do Because we don't need you going back ten years Coming back to us ten years later And the time we was in back then in that in that the best thing about Instagram story like you could throw some shit up on there and you're like, you know, I might not feel this way tomorrow and Zuckerberg is taking care of that for me Much that needs to be a limit Say what it does, but it's my archive. It's not like someone can run up in my archive and get that shit Don't what's up? Even when you're a man of the time. Yep Depending what you were doing you have to atone But that in the future Because just because you are a man of the time you can't blame it on just the time because you still might have hurt people You still might have harmed people, you know, I'm saying that may not apply to us when it comes to you know Jokes or maybe it does. I don't know when I'm talking about when you're elected official and you're a politician when literally Life and death is in your pen. Hmm. You know, I mean when you've devastated Black communities when you've devastated families and shit with your policies Joe Biden has that has the has the Opportunity right now to literally be more progressive than Lyndon B Johnson like Joe Biden can be the start of dismantling white supremacy in government if he chooses to And what would you have him do? Well first things first, um, you know atoning first things first Popham atoning atoning for slavery, you know what I'm saying through atoning atoning For slavery, but everything would be about legislations and reparations. So you come up with this economic justice plan to where you are Putting money into the black community, you know, you're putting money in the housing so you can make these You know, projects look better. You're putting money into the schools to make the school system better You got to do something with the health care, right? Because I think it's like eight how many it's like 80 million people in America with no health care Some shit like that probably way more But you got to do something with the health care system if Corona didn't teach us that Nothing will hmm, right? you empower people because You're 78 years old You're not gonna be around so why not put a black woman on the Supreme Court? Why not put a black person as Secretary of Treasury, right? Because I just feel like that black person isn't going to um He's not gonna disregard That what white people want He's just gonna have a focus on what black people in Latinos want because sometimes when you're white You're not looking at the whole scope of things When you're black you're kind of forced to look at the whole scope of things because we're looking we're looking from a different viewpoint So our viewpoint makes us have to be aware of Different cultures and you know the way other people do things we have to be aware of Certain neighborhoods don't go over there like it's just a certain level of awareness that you have when you're a minority that you may not have When you're a white person And that's not a knock It's just that we're all culturally clueless But some of us are forced to have to have a clue about what's going on and other cultures Yeah, that is true. You are forced You have to know that is interesting You you know as a what's what's impressive about you is you choose To go out there and learn about other people's experiences the only problem is soon as you spend a day You think you're an expert I Host one essence fest and then all the sudden you guys think that I think I'm an expert, okay You know what's wrong with your magazine You know you're giving me all these tips how to lay edges, it's like do I look like my edges need to be held being laid? Lay my toothbrush bristles are destroyed from laying these edges all corona Yes, Taylor god damn are you do you feel oppressed? I Just want to know it's kind of a little maybe I should wait. Are you guys gonna talk about the rest the rush interview? Yeah, we'll get to it. I just see it. Oh, but I would like to say something was really interesting That you brought up me and like I don't take any credit for the way I am I give that credit to my parents and like my environment and But my parents were a hundred percent responsible for that and I asked them about that I got this I got this text message from my boy Carlos. We went to high school together Dominican kid, right and he's a cop now and We were talking and he said something really interesting to me We were just talking about like back in the day and he would be like he said this to me I'll read it to you. He was all comes back to me too, man. I used to be so and this is Carlos I used to be someone who thought white people were all racist and oppressed and oppressed minorities, but I'm gonna keep it real Your family changed that of me. I seen your dad treat everyone that came to your house the same way No matter black white Asian, whatever and he goes on and he's like Seeing that basically like changed the way he thought because there was an example of a white person that didn't hold those vows he thought white people did right and they probably carried that throughout life and I Text that to my mom and my mom said something fascinating man. This shit was this shit was crazy. She goes Where I wish I had all this up right now. She goes this she goes She goes it's so great to hear that from Carlos But Andrew dad and I both escaped our upbringing We fret we fled our lives and both came to a place where we felt free to make our own decisions about life Race religion and class we were lucky We found success and were able to follow our beliefs that all men and women are equal We needed to leave our old lives to do this. I guess that is courage the hardest thing is To leave your family even if you know maybe not them, but the environment that they live in is corrupt We gave you and Greg the choice of any religion you wanted to follow that was our decision We were glad we had the courage to do that. This is not so easy for people living in various situations in life I'm glad we're able to live up to our beliefs Lots of people don't have that opportunity that your dad and I had and it's really interesting to me that like Reason I was able to grow up in this environment We're like yeah had all these friends of all these different races And I was never told to believe a certain way about religion or anything like dad and like my dad and mom Just treated them all like my brothers and basically right and they had all the they had these examples of white people that like really treated them Well, so I'm sure that affected them and their relationships moving forward But we had that because they removed themselves from environments that didn't feel that way it's like they unplugged themselves from a potentially racist matrix or potentially You know bigoted matrix or like a classist matrix they were they unplugged themselves from it and they recreated it So I'm like, how do you recreate that moving forward? Do you have to unplug yourself easily? You have to unplug yourself dismantling We have to dismantle this mechanism of white supremacy because what you said just now is so powerful But think of Carlos I would like to know why Carlos felt that way to begin with the reason you felt that way is because That's how America is structured. Yeah, we I don't I've been like that my whole life. I grew up down south. I just white man is the oppressor Where do you press? Black people can't get ahead white people have the power structure the power structure benefits white people Like that's just the way America is now is A lot of it subconscious bias probably is a lot of it unintentional probably why because if somebody comes to me right now And they're black and they're from South Carolina I'm gonna gravitate towards them more and I'm gonna look out for them more Right because we have more in common if I go in for a job interview Yeah, and you know a white person is interviewing me. Yeah, you might just he might be racist He might be prejudiced. He might be discriminatory or he might just don't relate to me So so you might come in and he just relates to you more because in the hour white you're a male Y'all got more in common. Y'all might tell you know, I mean It's just it's just all a lot of different complex nuances that we have to deal with in this country, but I really feel like That's how you can be able to Huh keep going Now I'm gonna say we're not gonna be able to dismantle White supremacy in this country systemic racism in this country until the people who really benefit from it Acknowledge it right acknowledge that there is white supremacy acknowledge that there is white privilege and then intentionally work To destroy it like your father and mother intentionally Yes, yeah have that in the house. So it's it's one of those things where like I keep thinking like what do I tell white people? It's it's not my position to tell black people How to react to this, right? But I can tell white people how to react to this and I can't tell white people how to create environments Where you can produce someone who had an upbringing like mine, right and it's like Seeing that shit right there was really fucking interesting how they unplugged themselves from this system that could have affected me Like we really wouldn't go see my family that much growing up And I was always curious as to why and I think my dad chalked it up to You know like he gets depressed when he's around his family and we all just you know assumed it was that But I remember distinct times growing up I remember once when I was young an uncle of mine said to me he was a so The top five white basketball players in history are and it was like why would you ask a six-year-old kid that question, bro? Like but that's where you see I'm saying that's where the seeds starts getting But it was one of those things like that's the type of stuff I'm sure on some level. Maybe my pops was trying to protect me from you know I want those values instilled in just in like that's not a hateful question But it comes from a place where you're looking at the world in this polarized way, right? You're looking at the world in this like it's juxtaposed black white where I'm six years old I don't even fucking know black way like I understand people look different But I'm not really thinking about it in no way Do I think as a young kid that I'm limited in any way because of my whiteness in terms of playing basketball? So when you ask me hey, what are you top five white basketball players now? I gotta start thinking wait a minute. Are white guys not good at basketball? Wait, should I not play basketball? You see how that just seeps in you know, I'm mad at your uncle cuz it feels like your uncle's basketball arguments would be trash If you can you imagine being racist and not wanting to give no black person credit and you're arguing basketball Larry Bird then you try to bring Durkin and somebody tells you he's a foreigner. So now you extra hot Even in the league back then I was young bro Kevin McKell like who you are who are you arguing with me about I know bro Probably started talking about like who the best coaches work because we couldn't talk about oh my god, you know But it is interesting is like now I understand that and like maybe that's what maybe that's something We see say to like white people or like anybody really it's like you have to unplug yourself from the system There's things we can actively do now. We could look up who the district attorneys are we could look at all these people but like Moving on the future. Maybe one of the things you do is start look say what say what you can't unplug dismantle, okay However, you want to talk about it like I think that there's one legislative wet legislative way where we go in dismantle But I think within your immediate life you find the ways to unplug it and if you got a kid you know that is so impressionable and He's hanging out with his grandpa, but his grandpa is dropping that m bomb every once in a while Know what you're putting your kid in front of and maybe like my mom said the hardest fucking thing you could do is limit The axis of your family from your family the hardest thing you could do to move your family But that might be the right thing to do for the future is or you have a talk with the grandpa like yo We're not doing that. We're not fucking doing that. You're not saying nothing wrong like kids Parents and grandparents don't realize. Yo, your outer voice is the kids inner voice You may not be paying no attention. You mean you may not be paying attention, but that kid is He heard you say that he heard you say the n-word every time you see a black brother shit when I was a kid my dad The white guys drive by and they pick up trucks with a Confederate flags and I didn't goddamn crackers You know I'm saying like literally that's what I used to hear growing up. So what do you think my inner voice was telling me? When I would see the same pickup truck cracker black I remember I remember the first time hearing the n-word out loud was from a buddy of mine In elementary school his dad and I know this sounds like a crazy thing to say His dad was a sweet fucking guy probably cuz I'm not black, but he was a sweet guy Yo, real talk his nanny might have been black But I heard him say it out loud. I was in elementary school I couldn't fucking believe it and I didn't even bring it up Until we were on a ski lift because I figured that was the safest place to have an MR conversation like But like like I just never heard it said by a white person And I was why he used it. No, I didn't bring it up to him I brought it up to his son and I was just so shocked to buy it and I was like whoa like I Just couldn't believe it. I just couldn't believe it. It's interesting how it works, right? I remember being in West Virginia. Yeah, and um and I love I love I was in I think it's Charlottesville It's Luther, you know Shane Gandhi resting peace, you know Joey the whole buck wild gang and all of them, right? Yeah, and um I remember being in a single-wide trailer with them. It was me do ball Shane God bless the dead and this other other white dude, and I'm and you know, this West Virginia, bro. This is Redneck central. I mean camouflage underwear like like proud rednecks, right? But cool is shit, right? Yeah, and so I'm me and do ball talking using the n-word and the white dude said Bro, I got I got buddies that up that'll punch you in the mouth for that I'm looking at him like who won't punch me in the mouth using n-word You like my black buddies don't like that. I'm like, I'm black I'm talking to me and do ball of talking amongst each other, but he got offended Just hearing me talk like that. Mind you none of his friends were around. Hmm. He just was not accepting of That language and this was a this was a big white red neck He wasn't big but he was I mean he was big dude, but he was a young white red net Right who did not want me using the n-word and Amongst me and do ball. He was just like, yo, I just don't like that because I know my friends don't like His black friends. That's I just thought that was like wow. That's unplugging, bro That's unplugging man, and it is an interesting thing. It's like saying Are are never being plugged in at all are being from a place where Poverty brings you together More than anything else like I grew up with Tommy. Tommy was my next door neighbor Yeah, I never looked at Tommy as white Yeah, we were just two kids that lived on a dirt road amongst corner South Carolina Yeah, you understand what I'm saying. There was that great, uh, snl sketch, right the one about the uh There was something where I don't know if it was black jack jeopardy or something But it basically showcased how similar southern rednecks and southern black people are Do you remember the one I'm talking about Rural rural areas. Yeah. Yeah. How they have way more in common Yeah, with each other than anyone else yet. They're potentially more. What is it mortal enemies or whatever the term is but um Black and white are only mortal enemies as much as cats and dogs are Yeah, and that's just the truth to the matter. You know what I'm saying like Is They were mortal enemies because that's the way society Structured it and they did that To keep power the people that made us feel like that did it to keep power But don't you think one of the things that we can look at for like one of the positive positives that we can look at these stereotypes Is that like You've seen how many white people Are out there hating this racist treatment and hating this systemic racism Alongside the black people like to me that was one of the most surprising things because I thought white people just kind of Sit it out And then when I saw all the white people out there as well I was like, oh shit. They're really upset about this. I love it. By the way, that's america's worst nightmare That's a white supremacist worst nightmare keep going to see white kids out there Fighting next to black kids to see white kids out there screaming black black lives matter To see white kids standing in front of you know black men to protect the police From harming them. That's why yo when I saw that Soon as I started seeing the rhetoric about Oh, those are agents Oh, that's the antifa A little bit of that might be true a little bit. Sure, but it's a better narrative Then Oh, shit white kids is really out here fighting because they want to race war They know what's fucking race war these new stations want to race war I don't know if they want to race war as much as they want to because because it wasn't it was the social media started it Right, and then I saw william ball william balls wasn't the first people I heard say Oh, that's just antifa. Don't just miss them kids is antifa You know what i'm saying? That's white people who just actually fucking care Which by the way has been going on since the beginning of time. Yes, I saw i'm glad show time's doing the fucking uh Was it john brown movie Oh the yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah John brown was a we loved black people fought hard for black people. You know what i'm saying like Civil rights movement there was white people there like it was always white people On the front lines of the struggle because they weren't even looking at it as a race thing They were looking at it as a human that's what i'm saying like when we did our piece It was like, you know this idea And I took one of your bars, which is like don't talk about checking your privilege Use your privilege, but the idea was like white people have always Used our privilege To help black people the ones that wanted to help Right like abraham lincoln used his privilege To help right like when you're desegregating america and desegregating schools You're using the privilege to help so that is what you have to do now I think the question that a lot of white people have is how can I It's one thing to tell me to do it. How can I because posting a black box on instagram is not That's not how you gotta you gotta lead by example like your your parents did you know what i'm saying I know how to do with my kids. I know how to do with my friends I know how to do with the people that i give opportunities to I know how to do that What is the average person that doesn't have but what about the person that doesn't have any black friends What about the person who doesn't have any connection to black america? What about that kid who just lives in their bubble how Say what? But but look at what like give me an actionable item for a white kid that lives in an area where there's no black people Don't get in the way Even if you don't have no black friends, you don't got to go out your way to find any Just don't get in the way. Don't oppress people. Don't be amy fucking cooper in the park Yep, okay Don't be amy cooper in the park when you're mad at a black guy So now all of a sudden you want to use your white skin You know me so you want to weaponize his black skin against him That's why I don't like when white people say things like oh, there's no such thing as white privilege Oh, there's no such thing as white supremacy. Well, how the fuck does amy know exactly what to say when she calls? So the There's a black guy here Threatening me this should been going on since the beginning of time. Of course that yeah, there's why I'm a tails day the uh The privilege argument always gets muddied because I think people look at excuse me I think people look at privilege the people who say there is no such thing as white privilege Talk about that on a micro level not a macro level, right? So if if you want to judge privilege based on a micro level And you want to say some like poor trailer park white kid is more privileged than will smith son A lot of people will go. Well, what smith's fun is probably more privileged than that trailer park white kid Just because he has white skin, but the privilege argument is not a micro level It's a macro level. So if you pull out and you go This is all the white people and this is all the black people and here the institutions that are set up to benefit All the white people. Yeah, if you take all of them, then you're going to go, of course, white privilege exists It's the and even on even on another level with the privilege. Like if you're that same redneck kid You and jade and walk into a certain store Jaden might get profiled a little white kid may not 100 in that white kid walking down the street somewhere police might walk right past the white kid And grab jade enough sure that's the privilege of being white Sure, absolutely And then you might make the argument if you were going to make the argument you would go Oh, well jaden will have access to the best education and the best schooling and the most opportunities Etc. So it's like I think that's why we're maybe like a rush type of guy will try to dismantle the idea of white privilege As an argument, but if you look at it as macro I think if you ask anybody who says there's no such thing as white privilege and you just go pull out And just tell me if you pull out if we average all the fucking numbers and you pull out The george floyd is a perfect example of that show me all the other white george floyd's What do you mean like that got killed by police That got killed exactly like that for forging a $20 bill show me that like show me those types of situations Yeah, I don't know about the building It's gonna be rare. You're gonna see tons of people. You're gonna see tons of white people that get killed by the police There's no question that that does. Yeah, I did. I yeah after I did rush limbaugh I got too many white people in my mentions showing me people white 100% oh, yeah I mean they're they've done statistically don't even read Say, yeah, can I ask you a question? Yes. Go go. Do you oh my god? It's why people get oppressed Yo, my agent I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I got it. I got a shout out my agent tj My agent's a 50 year old white guy. This is how you dismantle racism. Okay? This is how you do it This is how you unplug from the matrix and change the people around you my agent just texted me your You got your agent you got your agent appropriating cause that's right. I'll take appropriation over racism though Hell yes, I would much rather have a country where if a white guy wants to be hip hop Cool, if a black guy wants to be country cool I would take appropriation all day over racism. Appropriate all you fucking want Get rid of the oppression. Get rid of the marginalization marginalization. Let's appropriate. Fuck the racism I would take that all day. Mm-hmm. Okay. Tell what would you want to say? Go? All right. What are we gonna say? What's the According to what you kind of said go. Go. Can you say some of the silence is violence and you're not even saying nothing right now? Yo, you be silent That If it was no Pandemic, do you think that it will be as big this George say George Floyd still got killed and everything Do you think it would still be as big as it is because like you said earlier? You think it's frustration from poverty and everything else. So do you think that all these other states and uh countries now like Okay, I got it. I got it. I'm gonna tell you something Taylor. I was all ready to say You know how we have to ask an idiot segment whenever Taylor asked a question We're gonna call letting idiot ask Right, but but that was that was actually a decent question. Okay, and um the answer to it is Yo Taylor you good, bro. I got you Taylor, I got you. I got you free tickets at next essence fest. Yo, it's canceled this It's canceled this summer because of corona, but I'm telling you next summer. I'm gonna have you out there. Go go You know, this is the problem. Taylor this is why I don't want this Taylor got gas because of the live podcast because people was on youtube talking about how pretty she is And she's thick That's nice. I gave you the chair with the good light. She just wanted me to share with the good light I gave her the good light here. I can't steer. I can't steer. How do I steer? Oh, hold up? Let me tilt the I'm gonna tilt it out, but you just let me know when it's back You're gonna make oh, so she's not in the camera shot. Oh, can you give me this one? Oh, she got a head slick back She got her head slick back out little bun low shoulders out. We're not working off this one anyway I can see both y'all. Oh, it's lit. But this is what I'm asking for because there are a lot of white people And not that I'm mad about but there are a lot of white people in these protests and I just want to know What's the alternative Taylor? Here's the thing. You're just realizing white some white people care. That's number one I do know white people care. I'm just I don't think y'all know y'all y'all dismissing white people as agents No, this is interesting. Can I ask a question? Um Are there black people That are just now discovering that there is a sizable amount of the white population that truly does care about black, right? I do but I can't speak for all black people, but I do believe that Is it are you feeling that are you guys feeling that yeah in a way? I have a lot of not a lot, but the white friends. I do have I know that they are they're not about What of course, of course, but it's easy to go. That's just my friends instead of going That's the the general consensus. I think I think we forgot about good white people Same way we forgot about racist white people for an obama Say again Because I want to know where where they went like you asked rust Why weren't they standing up? I didn't see that many people standing up because people were busy You got to understand once again the world has stopped The world has stopped people are quarantined 40 million people are out of work largest unemployment rations to depression era people are at home They literally have nothing to do but protests They have nothing to do but go out there and motherfucking You know rage against the machine as they should right now. That's why I think this is such a beautiful time I think all of this is divine. I think god designed everything in this way God made everybody sit their ass down for three months so they can have the energy to maybe be out there in your streets for the next three Seriously, this shit could really go on until the election I'm dead serious and I think they're arresting the other cops today. Yeah, let's go But I think everybody's smart enough to know it's not about arresting just the other cops Things have to change after this. I want y'all to remember when Martin Luther King jr. Got assassinated And I want y'all to remember how for six days after that assassination They rioted all over america. I'm saying all that to say real legislation changed After people tore up some shit. Yes, and that's what needs to happen now. It's not gonna happen It might not happen under the trump administration You know what I mean? It just may not because those guys are very old school and they're not letting go Of white supremacy they they have no reason to dismantle the mechanism of white supremacy because so many of them benefit from I'll tell you something I'll tell you something that I think is true about trump and I can't make a statement with 100 certainty on how trump feels about black people I think it's very easy to go trump's a nazi trump's so racist trump's all these things blah blah blah I can't say how he personally feels about minorities or other races I will say this He doesn't want to lose races As his supporters that's not saying all trump supporters are racist I'm sure you and I both know people who support trump that we do not think are racist, okay? But he doesn't want to lose races as supporters He's not willing to sacrifice that group and he's made that abundantly clear time and time again And that might not make him Him himself a racist, but it does make him a coward He's a race it makes it look like again, again I'm not going to argue whether he is or not because that's a discussion that like There's really no way to actually prove it like someone could go charlemagne's a racist You see all the time he calls white people this and I could be like well, I know charlotte I don't see him as a race, but we go back and forth, but It is cowardly To not be willing To snip off people that you know have values that are abhorrent. That's cowardly So he can deny his cowardice in that situation You know what I'm saying? What's that? It reminds me of a rapper from new york Who won't let go of the 90s sound Is there a specific person I should know about right here? I'm a little bit out of my own No, I'm just saying just like, you know these rappers who say things like even dj's I want to bring the old new york back. We're gonna bring old new york back. So they just constantly Coming with that boom bap lyrical merit like this and that whatever whatever and and Don't fly. You know, you're not going to gain a big audience Like that you're tapping into some old shit that doesn't exist anymore Meanwhile, if you're cardi b from new york or Nicki Minaj from new york or french montana from new york or You know even six nine from new york or a stab rocky from new york You've tapped into the new energy of new york. You've tapped into the new wave Of new york or you can even be like a grizzel to who can wrap their ass off You know what i'm saying and people would say that they remind them Of the 80s and 90s, but they're not trying to hold on To that 80s 90 sound trump is trying to hold on to a a a a regime A ideology or rhetoric that just does not exist anymore That shit is dead, bro Yeah, it's an antiquated ideology But there's a there's a portion of the country and I think it's a smaller portion But there's a portion of the country that does hold those beliefs and he's not willing to Subtract that portion from his you know supporters and then replace it with people that have Uh better virtues And because he's not willing to lose them Um, I think that you can question his I think you can question his courage and question his bravery I think that's I think that's 100 acceptable to question even the most adamant trump supporter I think you can question someone's courage and bravery when they're not willing to sacrifice What they themselves know is a porn and wrong I'm gonna be honest with you. I think it's a lot of things about donald trump. That's an illusion Um, I I've I've never thought him to be brave He kind of proved that this weekend when they turned the lights off at the white house while all them protesters outside And rushed him to a bunker downstairs Right and then on monday He stands in the rose garden and just to show y'all he ain't pussy. Yeah, he's outside. I'm outside Literally walk out the front door at a white house to walk to a church across the street You're walking in ahead of everybody just to give off the perception of being tough If there was no social media like if that shit was the 1920s and you saw a president just walk outside while every city in america was being torn down And you didn't see what happened before because there's no social media You just look like that president was just strolling through the park while the whole country being torn down You bet. Yo, that's a brave motherfucker. Well being that you know that it was all Scripted and calculated you like no i'ma tell you what else and that is the beauty of social media, bro That is the beauty of it is that it gets to expose the fake narratives the wrestling if you will it exposes the wrestling of politics Well, he did that though because he did that because he literally was like i'm doing a press conference at 6 30 in the rose garden I'm sitting there thinking Why would you be doing a press conference when they're right outside? Your shit protesting crazy. Why would you do it in the rose garden? I already knew it was gonna be some theater of the mind shit He stood on that day for seven minutes and then he goes and now i'm about to walk somewhere He literally said that He goes now i'm about to walk somewhere. I'm like the fuck is he walking to And then they followed him to the church. I'ma tell you something else. I think it's an illusion Please don't prove me wrong this week the people i'm about to talk about the female orgasm Shut up Now they talk about the white supremacists and uh The white militias. Yes That's gonna ride fudado trump. Yes I don't think they exist like that, bro You ask because now because because wouldn't now be their time to shine Well, i'll be honest to you. I think a lot of those militias Are actually in support of george floyd and in support of the protests because a lot of those militias Now i'm not saying there's no there's probably a bunch of racist motherfuckers that don't have any virtues They don't have any values, but a lot of these militia folk are constitutionalists You know what i'm saying they fucking love their constitution So if you say hey, you're not allowed to have the freedom of assembly. Hey, you got to go inside at 8 p.m Hey, you can't carry a weapon during these protests. Hey, they're like, oh, we're we can't we about to put the military in the street Those militias are literally made to protect people From an overbearing police state and right now you are seeing an overbearing police state today Oh, it's our time to shine Let's go wait wait wait wait. Yeah, they was really riding for trump. They'd be out there They are out there They just not really riding for trump and there's black dudes in those fucking Militias that they crop out of the pictures when they use them for cnn And they use them for five news. I haven't seen any pictures. No, there's a remember We were talking about on flagrant too. They were protecting the store There their militia came out to al explain it So it was a militia. They came out to protect the store that was owned by white and blacks But when they posted the picture online, they cropped out the black guy So it just looked like two guys two white guys with big ass guns in front of this store But there's a black guy right next to him same gun all part of the same shit. It's just like they released I think it was in uh New England or something like that this group of white people walking down the street with bats And they're like here that here's a protest to protect the community or something I'm like, I'm like, first of all, I don't even know the truth about why those people are walking with the bats But I know you're stoking flames of this fucking impending race war that you're going to create by you Meaning like the news media is going to create when the people themselves actually do not feel this way The people themselves are very unified in this I feel I feel It's going to be interesting man. You know what I'm saying, um I just I just think that you know the biggest thing that we can do right now I like Gavin Newsom's statement when Gavin Newsom was like look black people are not the problem We are the problem Institutions we have to hold ourselves accountable. Yes You do America has to atone For a lot of this bullshit the same way that you had, you know systemic racism. You got to create like systemic Retribution, right? You got to create systemic reform. You got to create systemic rehabilitation Like you have to that's the only way America is going Actually move forward into the 21st century the way that we need to man Because I'm like and listen, I'm not I'm not saying joe biden isn't a white supremacist I I think he is because he's just a man of his time and he might be one of those, um Unintentional You know, I'm saying white guys Who oppresses you with just his mere presence and power? Because he don't know no better. That's why you got to constantly check him You know I'm saying or he has to have people around him that keep him in check If not, he's going to get out there in front of the camera and say, you know what? Don't shoot him in the heart. Shoot him in the leg. No, joe. No, you don't want anybody shot We're tired of police shooting people. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So it's just like he has to be intentional about going in there and dismantling the mechanism of white supremacy Like it has to be an intentional thing moving forward because black people can't do it. We didn't create it Only thing we can do is keep pushing the line On dismantling it and encouraging our white allies and white friends to dismantle it. Yo, we talk about making space Your parents made space You make space You know what I'm saying? People like Elvis Durand make space Stephen Colbert makes space. All my white friends make space You know what's interesting bro? Once you've been unplugged or once you've been dismantled It's not an active Decision to make space It's just how you live your life Word like I didn't actively choose out this diverse group of friends It's just what happens when you're not put in positions where you're going. Can I bring a black guy back to my house? you know what I'm saying like I remember my boy Carlos the first time he had to sleep over in my house He had to ask his mom permission and his mom goes Yo, why do white people do sleepovers? They're probably gonna try to have sex with you like Like this she didn't understand. Yeah, she didn't understand like it was like what's going on with that like that's not how things work So once you unplug It's so organic and so easy. It's the least it's actually no effort. It's zero effort. I had mad white friends That's it, but you have to be unplugged And you have to unplug yourself and maybe that's like the first step of if you're white and you're looking for something to do Maybe that's the first step It's just like try to create an environment where your kids can be unplugged from that and if it means like, you know helping them avoid Certain situations certain family members certain friends then that's what you got to do to protect your kid Do you think that applies to white people more? In terms of what? because my um, I went to a white school and my I remember for some reason my parents almost asked me like are you the only black kid in the Classroom I never understood why they would ask me that and then now I think they were trying to just make sure like I have someone I guess to um, that you relate to yeah that I relate to and stuff like that But they never but they made sure I knew my I knew my black history But they also didn't make me feel like I couldn't have a white friend. Right, right, right? Which is smart. Yeah, it's probably why you were able to have them But I don't know if that applies to a lot of people in the black community It doesn't because I was the only black kid I was the only black kid in my class and I never got invited to shit I never got invited to none of the White parties and functions the little stuff at the folks houses and stuff like that and I remember even saying one time It was two times. There was this little white girl. Her name was um My name was jennifer. She used to wear glasses I really want to know what's happening right now because every guy in the class liked her And she literally was had this flavor of love shit going Like she literally set it up to where she told everybody. I'm gonna pick a boyfriend at the end of the week It's like this was six great. Let's go. She said I'm gonna pick a boyfriend at the end of the week And so every single one of these guys Were courting her and I remember telling kody and john. I'm like Even though I knew Bro, this hurts goddamn Even though I knew I didn't stand a chance. I just was sitting around and I was like Guys you You think maybe this Slight chance. It could be me. They're like hell. No. No. No, it's not gonna be like no. No, it's not gonna be Why One of them told me because I was black. Wow I think I don't know if it was kody or john, but when it might have been lance It was kody john or land one of them told me I was it's because now it's because you're black That hurt bro, it is Crazy how hurtful kids can be dude My dad told me story when he was in middle school. He moved to new jersey to montclair new jersey from Manhattan to montclair new jersey and he went to school He was going to the school there and uh, he didn't get invited to any parties any Parties any sleepovers anything like that for the first few months of school, right as the family's getting settled there And he didn't really understand why I guess these kids don't like me and then he goes to sunday school One day catholic sunday school And all the kids at sunday school look at him and they're like larry. Why are you? Here right now. He goes. Um, I'm at sunday school. We you know, we finally got settled in everything's good and they're like Yeah, but you're a jew What the fuck are you doing at sunday school? And my dad was like no, we're catholic and they're like, yeah, but your last name schultz That means you're jewish. He goes no, we're just catholic. It's just the last name schultz Literally that next week. Hey, you want to come over? Hey, you want to come to the party? Wow Bro, that shit hurts man. I ain't going fray to talk to my therapist about that one because I felt my I'm serious my inner wounded child like my whole left side hurt just now. I thought I was about to have a stroke Well, my inner wounded child was hurt just now thinking about that. Yeah, I remember that shit Evidently the sixth grade was a rough year. That's when I had glasses That's when you became a bully bro hurt people hurt people I was I was getting bullied a lot then all my older cousins used to bully me for hanging out Hanging out with all the white kids. I wonder if that's why I've never had The the taste for white women that a lot of black guys While you didn't have the taste for white women. Yeah, because they denied you so yeah, I was like, well, fuck her then Man, shut up, bro. You're lying ass. You don't really tell me I never had no shows I never had a taste for him You might have seen me You might have seen me you might have seen listen you might have seen me partake Every now and then Hey, bro, white white men don't snitch. That's what I'll tell you I'll tell you white men don't snitch That's only what I was one woman And I was a we was a we was a we was in fucking someplace in california. I never heard of There's only white women there Hey, we might want to keep this moving, bro. Listen, we're doing a lot We got any bills to pay Okay, well, listen, let's do some church announcements to hit a hard reset. All right Let's do some church announcements, bro. I don't know. I don't know what what church announcements you got, man I don't have any. I'd be I I just been making a lot of uh, you've been busy, bro. You've been doing them call-ins Man zoom is a b zoom is exhausting. They gotta be something called like zoom exhaustion. You got zoom exhaustion Yes, man, because i'm always on zoom calls because if i'm not Doing a media hit like, you know, it's a like and by the way, it's been a lot of things that's been moving behind the scenes as far as like Actually getting some Some real change done. Yeah in our society. You know what i'm saying? Like i'm not wasting Any of these opportunities that I get when i'm sitting with these senators These mayors these governors the presidential candidate, you know what i'm saying? Like what is it to what is it like being a person that is At the forefront of this movement Like are you taking time to realize who you are and what you mean to black people? Or are you so caught up in the flow of this that you haven't realized what you've become What do you mean? Like i'm sure when you're a kid actually i'm not sure but like i don't know when you're a kid you're going to sit down and go wow man like One day i'm going to be at the forefront of the black civil rights movement I'm going to be considered a very important voice In obtaining those civil rights that we deserve like i don't know if you're thinking that as a kid But now because of what happened in your life you are there And you are a go-to Regardless of you think or not you were a go-to like they're calling you and asking you to be on Because and i don't want to put too much pressure on you But they're asking you to be on because they're like charlemagne is going to speak for black people And i think there's a lot of black people that are like he can really articulate things i feel But i don't know how to say exactly like that, but the feeling is true You feel that way out. Yes So it's like do what is it like having that responsibility? Does that weigh on you? Do you cherish it? I've never thought about it because i treated like i treated anything else like i'm not speaking for All black people because black people are monolithic. I'm really only speaking for myself. Maybe my experience is growing up In south carolina in a rural area and also living in new york since 2006 I just think i see the world from a different world view. You know i'm saying like i know I just know i just feel like i know what our people need. You know what i'm saying like i'm not and i'm not Like who can't agree that we need money Who can't agree that america needs to atone for his original sense of slavery like it's nothing profound being said It's just common sense. By the way, this is the same shit. Mary Ann whims. They got ran off the block for Mary Ann whims and was saying america needs to heal And in order to heal they have to atone for its original sense slavery like this is none none of this rhetoric is new Elijah Muhammad martin luther king jr. Malcolm x fracan. There's not a black person Who ever led any type of movement who is not saying the same things that i'm saying i get my rhetoric from them I build with my elders. I talked to the honorable minister lewis fracan. I talked to dr. Claude anderson You know i'm saying i've i've been in the room and sat down with harry bella fonte. I'm on the phone building and communicating with People who really give a fuck and have always gave a fuck like this. None of this rhetoric is new even this conversation about reparations like that ain't new like that that's that's what Elijah Muhammad was saying Elijah Muhammad was like yo Matter of fact give us our land and we'll get the fuck away from y'all Like like we want separation. They didn't want integration. They wanted their reparations and separation That's what they wanted But everybody's always had these different versions of what they think economic justice looks like for the black community And you know you can take stuff from the old you can take stuff from the new Like you got like my guy west bellamy out there who just he has an economic equity plan that You know they got passed in like charlesville west virginia like it's people out there that are that are doing this work right now so i've never literally thought about it i pray and Just like any other time in my life god tells me to say certain things And i go to say them i'm not seeking under this stuff out You know i'm saying yeah, none of it. I didn't know all these presidential candidates was gonna start coming to the breakfast club right I didn't know that right and i didn't ask i didn't strategically say hey, i'm gonna be a Political pundit who the fuck wants to be a political pundit? Yeah, yeah What were you thinking it? What were you saying now? like Speaking for myself. I think it's so impactful seeing you up there because you're able to articulate Exactly what i'm feeling and do it in a way that i could i can't do it, but you do it The exact way you talk here on the breakfast club the exact way you talk on power 105 And you look like me i we both have a fitted on right now You're just in a t like i just think the message coming from somebody like that is just so impactful Well, thank you you're different you get on cnn and you're not in a suit all of a sudden And you're taking away from what i was taught when i was in class about Like how to talk and you have to enunciate everything else like you're talking just as you were born to talk She's saying you can't know shit, but i'm saying you can't talk dog. You're gonna let her talk shit, bro You're gonna let her talk that shit, bro. I'm saying you're taking out. You're taking away the political Or like the stereotype the archetypical Yeah, how you're supposed to talk during because delay like i've been saying when it comes to politicians the language of politics is dead We don't understand that shit. Yeah Yeah, it's like oh you're yeah, you're a communicator Yeah Simple as that right it's like you communicate that is how you do it and that is what you do very well and um You don't need to communicate through one fucking uh, what is it called? What is the the voice the news voice so at nine o'clock we have the blah blah blah store You know the stupid voice that all these like broadcasters put on for no reason Yeah, man And when you yeah, it's just like radio right when you get into when i first got into radio and i realized that um Damn the reason people Don't have an opinion on radio is because they tell you not to have an opinion right Like literally they tell you you're not supposed to have an opinion like the fuck you mean I'm supposed to have an opinion now everybody of course wants to have an opinion But back in the day when I started I could have easily taken the route of being just the Y'all there y'all frozen no i'm here. Oh I could easily have taken the route of just being the the Announcer you know me but yeah, I didn't go to school. I didn't have no formal training All I knew how to do was going there and just just talk and it's the same thing with these political points You realize that They save people of color to be all inclusive You know I'm saying like you can't just you can't say black You know what I mean like you realize that you know, you're not supposed to Talk bad about other politicians Because all these guys that could be they'd be in the senate together. They'd be in the house together like you know like They may talk shit to each other behind the scenes, but when they get on tv and stuff Even though we might see something that we consider dead wrong They don't really call it out because it's still a job. They want to keep their job That's the thing that people don't realize about politics man. That's just occupation dog Yeah, and talking shit about the people that might be paying your salary might be donating to your campaign That's an occupational hazard Not a lot of people can handle that That's why I think the people outside of politics are often the ones that make all the change The politicians sign the bill But if you can sway the people enough that the politicians are concerned that they will not have they will not vote for them Unless they sign those bills and then put those things through Then they'll do whatever you want It's like it's our job to motivate the people and it's a politicians job to stay in office So we will motivate the people to put that pressure on the politicians to do whatever the fuck we think is the best for the people But a lot of times these politicians don't do shit And I don't know how many of them care I think the ones that care resonate, you know, I think you can hear caring in somebody's voice You understand what I'm saying? Like I think that you can hear when somebody really has a message when you when you when they're really trying to get something out There because it's to somebody's benefit You can tell I don't think too many politicians have that Yeah, I really don't I really don't and then and you know, um, I did I did rush limba I didn't do rush limba. Yeah We all did each other now was rush was rush the guy that uh got like the medal of honor at the uh trump's uh state of union That is him, right? Okay, biggest biggest biggest voice in conservative talk radio. That's right. It has been for like 30 something years. Um I hard media works for my heart like I work for my heart um How's that be at I heart hold on Can you hold this combo because I got a piss so bad and then go do it when I get back Is that cool guys my bad guys coming right back? We uh, I just had to use the bathroom But uh while I was in the bathroom Um, I did you see that they what's it called it? Uh the murder charge the child in murder charge What happened they upgraded the second-degree murder And they added the three other guys for aiding and bedding three other cops Yeah, because there was a video that came out that showed them uh beating Beating uh, george up in the back in the car. Yeah Yeah, they showed them beating them up in the back seat of the car took them out of the car Put them on the ground Put his knee in his back like look and by the way, man, you know, I'm not gonna say who but It's a lot of times y'all be calling people out and saying that you know, they're not actively involved doing things, but Those are the main people that be making those phone calls He's getting shit like this done Oh, oh, yeah, jz's out here doing that I ain't say jz, but But the governor the governor of minneapolis is that's that's I think it was the governor the governor minneapolis did shout jz out during the press conference We're gonna go over we're gonna go over how to say minneapolis If there's one thing that we get out of this podcast if there's one fucking thing that we get out of this podcast Okay, you're adding another end to minneapolis By the way, single time we do the parking by the way when i'm on national tv That's the only word that i'm thinking about that. Did I say that right? I'll be like mini apples mini like apple Yo, i'll be wanting to say anything. I'll be like when it when it pops in my mind. I'll be like take the home of the vikings Take timber wolves Say anything but minneapolis. Come on guy. Come on get it together. By the way, um The they're still trying to push Amy Klobuchar too Because i'm why i'm looking at the shade Amy Klobuchar the one who announced that well, she was promised it She's a promises. She's part of the whole She's part of that whole dnc mafia She's part of the dnc mafia. She was promised it They kept her on that fucking debate stage when nobody heard a single quote out of her mouth And um, that's just how the game is played, bro Like they want people that they can control in power biden is controllable that guy doesn't you know He doesn't know what the fuck he's saying from one day for the next so he's controlled and klobuchar She's part of that as well. He puts klobuchar on that ticket. He's gonna lose Simple as that. I mean you might lose regardless, but That will not help him. That will not help him. Yo, real talk. What is what like I think what is uh, uh bottoms lance bottoms He should lance bottoms So lance bottoms had a uh a good moment where she spoke out about it. I think it was being cast around twitter Um In these times i'm not trying to say that these politicians should be opportunistic But they have to let their voices be heard And they gotta hope that they're saying things that people need to hear because this is where you're gonna get that vp nomination It's gonna be made right now if you kill it right now Kamala Harris is killing it right now speaking to the people and speaking to them in a way that can be undit that is just undeniable They're gonna have to offer that to her if she just sits in the wayside and ain't gonna work, bro I think senator Kamala Harris going hard. Keisha can't leave elana though. She's too perfect for elana mayor bottoms. Yeah Mayor dude vp keisha vp keisha is Dude imagine we had president keisha Mayor bottoms no president keisha Call me keisha call me keisha. Okay. Okay. Let's let's think about it You're a black bottom. Mm-hmm black male bottom dude. What does the world love more than a black bottom? Yo, we should remake come into america keep going Have a gay black bottom from another country right Dude and try to figure out where he can find A groom or bride. I don't fucking know what you would call him if it's another guy Yeah, right So he's looking at the map and they look at lana lana and they already know about the high You know amount of gay people in elana like yeah, we gotta go to elana. It's a great black city. Whatever whatever. Yeah, they look up the mayor Mayor bottoms And that's what leads them to elana how disappointing that's a woman No, he's not going for her. Oh, it's just the fact that they look at that as a sign It's like when Eddie them spent the globe and saw new york and saw queens He was looking for a queen a future queen. Oh, that's right. Yes, man So you spend the fucking globe you see elana boom you look it up mayor bottoms. Would you not go there? Would you not go there? I mean that maybe maybe it has to be a top. Maybe you got to be a gay top not a bottom Maybe you got to be a gay top. Yeah, gotta be a top. Yeah I'm going to elana Yeah, it's a highly populated gay city. Yeah, the mayor whose last name is bottoms. That's what atl stands for you know that What all tops love? No ass to loot Looting that booty for years We're gonna do some damage I want some of that booty. I can break open God damn it I'm gonna throw a bottle through that. I hope this booty got some insurance. God damn it. All right I'm gonna put my dick through this booty Booty booty is so stupid, bro. Oh, listen Russian limbo is a character. Yeah, tell me I didn't watch the interview. Uh, yes He he is I I truly believe it's all performers But is is he skilled at what he does? Would you say that this is yeah? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I knew that. I mean I knew that already though I mean, I I knew that from just listening to him, right? Oh, yeah, he's a he's a very good radio personality Yo, anybody that can talk for four hours straight is good with no co-host All right for four hours straight is this you and the callers You're a beast Okay, and he's good at it. But you know, it's just like I respect the fact that he wanted to talk about great George Floyd And you know he I respect the fact that he thought what happened to George Floyd was wrong I also respect the fact that he thought that police brutality needs to end But you lose me when you don't want to get to what the root Cause of the problem is because if we can't acknowledge the root cause Then we'll never be able to be able to acknowledge the issue right the root cause is white supremacy the root cause is systemic racism If you can't acknowledge that those things exist if you can't acknowledge that Black people get profiled more if you can't acknowledge black people get pulled over more If you can't if you can't acknowledge black people get treated unfairly by the cops more like these are statistics that are proven They're you're a numbers guy, right? So if you can't acknowledge that Then we can't really have a conversation especially when you tell me he told me He don't even know what white supremacy is and that He doesn't believe in white privilege, but a caller called him after the interview Caller asked rush just caller said um Hold on A caller said hi rush. I think the follow-up question To the complaint that we need to dismantle the system of systemic white supremacy is what is that system? And I know I have my own perspective about what that is But I think that as a follow-up question it will be illustrative if we could get shalom into god To share how do they define that? What is that? Now it's what rush says I think he did defining it. Let me repeat what I think I heard him say He said white supremacy is the result of the nation being founded by white people who are wealthy for white people Who would benefit from the way the country was corruption and founded and everybody else was left out And so that automatically means that all white people from the founding of the country forward Have a built-in advantage over people who weren't white because the country was founded on principles and laws and systems designed To benefit fellow and other white people. That is what I understood him to say at the definition of white supremacy How can you break that down so eloquently to a caller? No, he didn't he knew the whole time What are you talking about Taylor? He literally answered it 20 minutes later. Yeah Yeah, no, he knew the whole time. This is the same person in the middle of a conversation He said to me look look look look look My car It's the middle sort of Vikings We've signed color carpet in two days ago the protests will be over Russ, shut the fuck up Hey, shut the fuck up. You're just a multi million dollar hundred million dollar troll. It is fine You know, I mean, it's cool. I'm not mad at it. I get it You know, I don't think that conversation was about changing Russell Limbaugh's mind I think that conversation was about, you know, the people who listen to him And who heard a different perspective for the first time and saying saying what all listeners they heard a different perspective for the first time and a lot of times uh how do I phrase it like um conservatives have to be more diligent in their arguments than liberals because they're arguing the tougher thing like liberals are often arguing um The emotional side they're like hey, we need more equity. So we should have um What is it called that thing where like you give black people, uh You have to give black people like more interviews and like acceptance of schools affirmative action Yeah, yeah, so like we need to help out minorities. So let's do affirmative action Now a conservative that doesn't agree with affirmative action has to be really disciplined in his argument because he needs to convince people That on the surface must agree with this because you want society to be more equitable and you want people to be more included Right, so you have to have a really good argument That's going to dismantle the fact that emotionally we all not all of us But a lot of people want to agree with that So it's it's difficult to argue It's difficult for a lot of like uh liberals to argue with conservatives because they're not as disciplined in their arguments Because they don't have to be because you're arguing the emotional side. You're arguing. Hey, why don't we treat people better? Hey, why don't women make the same amount of money as money as men? We should pay them equal Hey, hey, hey all these things make sense on the surface and you're not going to get that much pushback in a day-to-day conversation So when you're going up against a conservative debate, you have to be just as disciplined and just as detailed in your arguments as they are And it's and it's just not that often that happens I get it. But you know, even with somebody like rush limbaugh. He's he's just arguing off of feeling Yeah, but like his he just feels like white privilege doesn't exist Right, right, but I guess what I'm trying to say is like they're feeling there They may be arguing off of feelings, but their feelings are considered More morally wrong in a lot of ways So if you're arguing something that's morally wrong You have to really figure out a great justification for it So that you can continue arguing does that make sense? Yeah off you just yeah, I I get it But all if you just ignore data You can't if you because even if you are a numbers guy if the numbers show Black people get pulled over more more or black people get, you know Killed more about police per capita like if you see all of these numbers Yeah, and you still choose to ignore it. It's like, all right. I don't know what to tell you Right or they go find different numbers Right because you know, there's a million different ways that you can chop up some numbers to make it work for your narrative But go check it out. It's fun. It's online. Um, what else we I guess we doing shit We won't care about next week. What else we got Taylor? Um about the Trina I was upset with her And I have the audio who is this? I didn't I didn't I didn't really hear it. Who is this Trina Trina? Yeah, I don't I think that shit We don't care about this week too What about Virgil you care about Virgil donating the $50 and posting it? I don't understand why he did that I mean, I'm not mad at him for donating $50. You donate what the fuck you want to donate. Yeah, but why post that? Is he detached? Does he not know what's going on? Is he I don't fucking know. Was it an accident? Was it one of those things that because sometimes you donate to those places? And it'll you got a pick on whether or not you wanted this blast out Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's odd that he didn't even donate enough money to buy some of his shit Like he would have been better off donating a piece of his clothing Or a pair of his sneakers that would have raised way more money for that charity than the $50 Nah, you're right. I don't understand that that was weak But you know, you know, you know the way to make that right? Yeah, step it up Put some bread in Not you. I'm telling him. Oh, yeah If you if you if you mad at virgin on buying shit, is it accurate to call his donation off white? I'm saying like let's be honest. That was a whack at $50. You act kind of off white right now Like you gave you gave you gave uh You gave them $10 more than you would give a side chick You know what I'm saying? Take this $40. You know what I mean? What the fuck is $50? What you gonna do is $50 What else Taylor jr smith? He liked what amazing Love it Salute to jr smith god damn it jr smith was incredible um He should have been a soccer player got good good good footwork. Yo somebody said uh jr smith is still a volume shooter bro Can you imagine and I thought about this imagine jr playing with him old nicks Oh, yeah Charles Oakley Yeah Might have been a bad move. Don't do that jr wasn't enforced it bro That was a good beatdown because I've been seeing some wack beatdowns lately No, he meant to get beat up and like he meant the person is getting hit hard. Like yeah He was feed. He was digging into them punches. Like yeah. Now. He wanted that. Yeah, he wanted it Yeah, I liked it a lot jr. What else? I just found out jason widlock has been fired. Oh, yeah, jason widlock got fired. You know how You know how much you know how confident a network Has to be that black people don't care about you that you get fired during a national civil rights protest I'm saying like just think about that shit, bro It is hard for corporations to fire black people During this shit that fat fucking up a door named jason widlock hairline thing too for nothing Wait, he bought his hair. Yeah, that's fat fuck named jason foot widlock. That's fat fucking up a door with the fake hair You did all that coon and all that dancing Only for the white man to say bye Like you really thought you was important. I'm gonna tell y'all something this reinforces what I've been telling y'all And I told y'all a million times white people don't like to sell out nigga Okay, white people don't like to sell out black man I can't people like black men that stand on a principle or deny say that again White people like a black man that stands on his principles and defends his people because check this out or one that's really good at shooting And uh really quick and has good ball handling. We like that too Uh, you know, we like uh, if they're really good running backs. There's another black guy that we like But but no, but white white people don't like that because why would I trust you not to sell me out? If you don't care about your own people It's like or not like but you're definitely disposable You're just but you don't you don't bring that to the table. Yeah, it's it makes you very disposable You know, like, yeah, his numbers probably were lowest shit amongst black people You know I'm saying it's like why we got you here don lemon could literally pull his dick out and On live television and tell the top of the network and CNN Fuck you suck this thing right here and he would not get fired for the next two weeks That's a damn lie for the next two weeks. I don't that's a damn lie I don't believe that. I don't think black people get fired for two weeks Move your computers because you're you're off the screen, but I don't think you can fire black people for at least two weeks No You can fire black people now Depends on the black person is and depends why they're getting fired If they're black and they on tv talking that black shit that black power radical shit and you get rid of them You're gonna have some smoke. That's what i'm saying. I don't think you could be proud black and talking about Civil rights and get fired right now. I think you could say whatever you want to say You got real freedom of speech, bro. You could say whatever you want to say About eye heart right now. They can't fire you I would never say anything bad about eye heart I got love for eye heart. I love eye heart. All right. Well, if you didn't like them, you know, I actually do I fuck with eye heart heavy. You know what i'm saying Yeah, yeah, I get it. I totally get it. Um, but yeah, good riddance to jason woodlock. I think they need to bring in, um I think van will be good van latin van will be good for that But I think that I actually think this should bring jamell hillan I think jamell hill and marcellus wiley would be a good combination I actually miss seeing jamell on tv talking sports every day I think jamell hill and marcellus wiley would be good for that, uh What did that speak for yourself? I don't know if that's the car. I like how I would speak for yourself. I don't know Uh, jamell is kind of annoying on twitter. I'll be honest with you Because she's not talking sports She was always great at sports. She was really always great at sports. That's what i'm saying She's perfect. She and she's perfect for first of all jamell is super intelligent can talk about anything But when things come through the lens of sports I think people It's more digestible You understand what i'm saying like like jamell was able to be on espn And she would be talking about social justice politics racism through the lens of sports sports gives it that filter But now it just feels like yes, I agree with you But now it feels like at least on twitter a lot of times It's like oh one time this owner of this football team, uh nodded in agreement with this guy who six years later Went on to tell a black person to move out of the way. So that owner needs to not own a team anymore Like it's too extreme. It's too like There's no real like come on yo reel it back in a little bit. You know what i'm saying She just I just think she just she just needs um jamell just needs that base like i think she wants to help There's no question where her allegiance is and there's no question What she sacrificed to have that allegiance is show that allegiance publicly What happens is if you if you go too extreme It's almost like boy who cried wolf is like if you go too extreme with it Eventually people start tuning you out. Well, see I don't think that's what this is what I don't think that perception of her is real right because I think people Know some people know jamell because she called out donald trump, right? Yeah, and and being that Saps okay. Let me let me backtrack. I received jamell early on In context meaning that jamella is the intelligent Person who can talk about sports and social justice and politics and just everything that's going on in the world, right? But I received that through the uh The his and hers podcast and then it was the his and hers tv show and then it was so you knew From the jump whereas a lot of people were like, oh, I see her I see all of her. I see her in her whole totality, right? But a lot of people didn't get to know who jamell hill was Um until she did the donald trump tweets, right? Right and then it then it then in their mind They're like, oh, she's the radical woman probably an activist who called out trump and ESPN Right, you know, uh, he heard yes being pardoned ways because of her rhetoric whatever the fuck right So they have this one perception of her which is radical and which is extreme And that's why I said it would be dope to see her on tv every day Talking sports because now they understand who she is in her totality It gives it it gives it the context that we all who love jamell hill have You know what i'm saying, right As opposed to just seeing that one perspective of her and you're like, who why do you why who is this? Activist woman that's the person could I hear that a lot from people and i'm like, you all don't know jamell hill like Well jamell gets busy like jamell you got to you got to see it in this whole totality once you get In the podcast gives it to you too, but I I still don't think not like sports because we all love our sports pundits, bro Yeah, we love our sports analysts. We need some sports now man. I love stephen a Yes, I used to I love jamell hill sports commentary jamell hill with somebody I look forward to on tv every day talking sports Like I like milk mike will bond and tony cornheiser. I look forward to that shit Yep, you know, I mean I like shannon sharpen skip bales. I look forward to their perspective But I would love to see jamell hill giving me that perspective every day along with everything else And she's perfect for this climate. Like well, let's do it man. She's perfect for this climate Should we uh, what do you think do some asking idiots? Yeah, well Let's do like two because I gotta get the fuck yeah, we gotta run We gotta we gotta do asking it because we gotta get out of here It was to give us two good ones. Taylor two asking idiots All right, some heat some heat taylor pressure. She got pressure. She got pressure. She got pressure Pressure, pressure, pressure, pressure, pressure, pressure, pressure. All right. Um Under pressure Down If you're president, what oh, sorry, this is coming from mia the prince xo If you were president, what changes would you make in the first hundred days? If I was president, what changes would I make in the first hundred days um That's really interesting man. Like what can you make? I would do a national apology for reparations. You're breaking your break. You're all frame. Like turn the frame Oh, I would do I would do a national apology for reparations. Um, and in in february during black history month And then I would roll out a economic. Um uh, economics is economic justice package systemic retribution package for the black community and it's probably something that I would roll out, uh All for my my years. So if the number that I'm seeing Bob Johnson says 14 billion, I don't know I would I would have three trillion four trillion going into the black community every year that I'm in office I'd probably bring back sports White privilege is such a beautiful thing White male privilege is such a Yeah, yo, what's the basketball? Hey, yo, what's the basketball? We don't Some boxing some boxing some good. We have some fights going I honestly, I don't know what you can so as a president It's not your job to make up laws, right? You sign laws into power So I just truly don't know what you can do as a president You could push that secretary of treasury to cut that trick Can you do that? Can you because because trump could barely try to sign off or whatever the fuck you want No, but he can't even get funding for the wall He got to go through congress get funding for the wall and then that shut down and that's back So it's like I don't know what you actually do as a president I know the secretary of treasury didn't have they didn't have to vote. I don't fucking know what am I talking about That's the thing right like is is it's such a tricky thing. What can you actually do as president, man? That'd be that's a tricky thing. What would you do within the first hundred days? What could you actually physically do? He's gotta talk That's what I would do Real talk I just I'd podcast with the people bro. I just every day was good. Like I tell you figure it out Blue chew like, you know what I mean? Like I just don't you know, I need a website's go to swap the square space You know By love three ice ski whatever if 2020 wasn't athlete, who would it be if 2020 was an athlete Cool, let me go. Hold on. I got this one. I'm gonna go peak. Hold on. All right. Go. Let me try it then You think you know, okay. Go. What do you think? Um, I think it would be Why is it guys name? Um, the weird guy that's well player that but he's like amazing He played with Michael Jordan. Why can I not think of his name? Mugsy Bogues? Oh Dennis Rodman Interesting that's an interesting take but Dennis was super successful. Do you think 2020 is Well, I mean how y'all made it this earlier, you know, you know, that's true Like there's all this unity and there's all this togetherness, etc But it started out with tragedy That is interesting Dennis had a lot of tragedy in his life, but he ended up doing so amazing things He dresses and everything else he changed but That's interesting. Maybe Dennis Rodman. How what do you think? Yeah, I don't know 2020 wasn't athlete who would it be Hey, yeah, yeah, maybe somebody that like showed us I don't know. Maybe somebody would you say that's more about ourselves and we thought would you say bro I haven't said anything. She said Dennis Rodman. What do you don't know? Yeah, think about it. Think about it, right? How y'all just explaining Dennis Rodman when the Michael Jordan doc was out y'all saying oh, he changed like He changed the game. He's he's the most interesting everything else. That's what 2020 is right now But a lot of 2020 Dennis Rodman was good But you guys were just saying earlier How this year could y'all are bringing people together unity and everything else like it's changing Is it going to be a change and you were just saying earlier how god Put things in the place for things to happen too. So what I got to do with being an athlete This is a question. I don't know 2020 was Everything I do believe that we're in a divine time right now But if you ask me a simple question of 2020 wasn't athlete, I would say a basketball player You said right? No, if it was athlete. Oh, oh just an athlete in general. Yeah Oh, shit. I don't know. I was thinking basketball. I was thinking how old fucking minor Well, I thought it was gonna be dope. Yeah, so much promise 2020 had so much promise bro. Like I mean, I just said just we just thought you was gonna be the next This is Jordan. Yeah Didn't happen just didn't happen didn't work out. Yeah, it's a tricky. I don't know man 2020 is rough I don't know. I don't know how to answer that question. We'll come back next week with the answer to that one, man But we got to wrap this up. Yo, you want to take us out charlotte? Yeah, man. Listen as always if you think uh, we're smart. You think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant You're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple idiots, you don't know shit You're right too. It's the brilliant is podcast. Thank you for listening. Peace