 Oh cool background today Dave. Thank you. I'm a dog sitting at a nearby apartment in A's Boston so a different backdrop. It's it looks good. And it looks like we're ready to go. All right. Okay good morning again. This is the second meeting of the Massachusetts Gaming Commission. We started at 9. Now we are turning to our Genesetting meeting and we're holding this meeting virtually so I'll do our roll call. Good morning again, Commissioner Bryant. Good morning, I'm here. Good morning again, Commissioner Hill. Good morning, I'm here. Good morning again, Commissioner Skinner. Good morning. And good morning again, Commissioner Maynard. Good morning again. Thank you. All right, we'll get started with our public meeting 163. Commissioner Maynard this week. Madam Chair, we're actually going to have to roll these minutes over. We have a couple things going on with those of us reviewing minutes and we're pretty much up to date on the agenda setting ones but we're going to have to roll these over. Okay and then we'll just let me get to the next part of our meeting. You can just remind me of the dates. Thanks. Okay so we're going to turn right to the agenda planning that is out today. So I think Caitlin, you're probably doing a little coverage and carry is what I'm guessing. So I appreciate both of you helping on that in that way. I see Judy is here as well. So thank you. We've got our meeting scheduled and look our three meetings right today at the top of the chart. Okay, we have it through March 28th. I have not heard from any commissioner that any of those dates are particularly challenging. They just really always reflect the two week cadence and the magic that Trudy does in between schedule meetings. You'll note that we have a couple of adjudicatory hearings March 11 and March 21st. I think Justin you're on anything we need to know about those? The respect to the adjudicatory hearings we're all set. The only the only issue may be with respect to the bed MGM hearing on the 21st Madam Chair in light of some of the discussion that came up last week at the public hearing and depending upon what the commissioners requests are in terms of investigation that may be something where we want to take that date off to provide IV with time to do a more thorough investigation but Kailin and I were going to sort of get into that as a possible area of discussion for next week's public meeting so that we can raise the issue of decide what we want to do with some of the issues around adjudicatory hearings moving forward. Okay, so then we'll turn to our agenda setting and we'll talk about putting that on the agenda for the 29th. Alright, so turning to page three initiative update. I believe Todd intended to discuss the NDA. We'll see if we have time for that. It's again a pretty awesome agenda. Meeting minutes, Judy and Commissioner Maynard. So I actually have in my queue this morning May 23rd 2023 and May 30th 2023. These are full full meeting. So May 23rd and May 30th 2023. Yes. Thank you. Okay, legislative update. Commissioner Hill. I think we can pull that actually. Okay. Thank you. And again, I want to thank Commissioner Hill. When we interact with the legislature and staff, it is so helpful for us to have your experience. And, you know, the I know that the there are different stakeholders who are watching our work carefully. And, you know, Commissioner Hill, you should feel comfortable always bringing them that word and those increase forward. I think we distribute those always to the commission. So but in terms of right now, budget, there's no news right now. Okay. Thank you. Regulations. How's that look, Carrie? Yes, could we move this one to March 14th? We're just still getting some internal feedback on this one. Okay. Right. Thank you. No, any other regs? No other regs for next week. Well, and then I'm going to turn to Caitlin first on the category three on compliance policy. Just because Todd is out this week, if we could move that to the 29, that would be helpful just, you know, so that we have time to get it back in and have everyone review it. Do you mean the 14th, Caitlin? Yep, I meant the meeting after, sorry, meeting after the next week. Thank you, Carrie. Okay, right. And then we've got some sportsway dream matters. Andrew, we're on schedule for that. Madam Chair, the Sandal request for the new league. Sandal has not submitted an official petition. Actually, draft teams has also reached out on this new league, but no official submission by either operator. I don't know if we can move this to under review or taken off yet. That's on the United Football League. Correct. So that's now draft Kings two and anything. No official submission. Okay. So they know that they need that for us to avoid. Correct. Okay. So without a date, we'll put it under review for now. Yep. And we're still okay with the Caesar's house rules to go forward on the 29. Okay. All right. Then we have the alleged noncompliance matters. How are we on that, Caitlin? Sorry, I was having trouble meeting Kathleen will jump in here. Hi, Kathleen. Sorry about that. Morning, Chair. No problem. We will have two new matters to discuss on the 29th. And we also would be suggesting that we continue the matters that we started last week that we put a hold on to get some further information. There were two matters related to to pass posting. So I guess in total, it would be four. So the two were three and four of our last one, right? Yes, three and four were the ones that we began last week. And we caused to be able to to look into some further information. We have received some information in sports weight. So we'd be ready to readdress those next week if that works for the Commission. Great. And so Caitlin and Justin, it sounds like that would also be interplaying with your policy discussion, right? Oh, I think these are two separate agenda items. I was just going to raise that. So I think one agenda item would be the four the four potential non-compliance matters that Kathleen just noted. So we'll go through the same process of giving the short summary and finding out how the commission wants to proceed. I also think if we could bring back the two matters that have been scheduled for adjudicatory hearings, so that's one with DraftKings and one with BetMGM. In light of the last commission meeting discussion about the depth of the investigation into the matters and also the role of the IEB, whether it's a party or a witness, it would be good to get clarity on what the commission would like the IEB to do for those matters. I second everything Caitlin just said. Okay, good. Thank you, Justin. Sorry to cut you off. Commissioners, this is a good time to ask Caitlin and Justin what you would like to have them address in that discussion. For instance, I am aware and have experienced that difference between the party and the witness. But I wondered if there are legal implications that we need to understand. If we go one route versus another, Commissioner Bryan, perhaps you're thinking about that too. And if it could be addressed in a memo, perhaps, Commissioner Bryan? Right. No, I think that would be helpful. I mean, I think we were all in agreement on the end product we were hoping to see. So the question really is the mechanism to get there given the statute and the regs. So if there's a memo that lays out the two choices to your point, Madam Chair, I think that would really help the conversation along. Yeah, and if they lay it out and explain the, you know, any legal implications. Right. And even procedural, you know, if they're a party, it's this function and if they're a witness, this is what it's going to look like, that would be helpful. So that, yeah, so that's another piece, the procedural aspect, what it looks like, and then any implications that we need to know. A specter from our perspective and also from their perspective in terms of the licensees perspective, given license rights that arise, right? Anything else? Caitlyn, is that is that clear? I'm just making it. It's definitely clear and work with Justin on that. My only concern is that the materials would be due tomorrow for the meeting next week. So what we might want to do is put the four new items on for the 20 for the next meeting and then move this to the 14th. We actually have time to put the memo together, which I will say would mean that the vet MGM hearing would likely move out. Just because there's not certainty as to sort of the depth of the investigation or the, or the the status of the IDB. What do you mean the memo won't be ready tomorrow? Okay, that works, right? And is it, is it? I guess I'm wondering about the two that we're bringing back. That's because there's an update on the report themselves that Kathleen's team will be presenting. Or should we wait on those two as well? I mean, we could actually, we could wait on all of them. If again, that would make sense. Now that I'm thinking about it, if the commission sort of wants this full some memo about the options, then maybe we should just hold on the noncompliance matters. And so you've had an opportunity to review that, know your options, and then sort of start again with the process of moving through these particular items. Do you want to hear the first two that we haven't heard commissioners just so that we have those facts in front of us on an alleged noncompliance? Have those two? Then we'll sort of know the landscape of alleged noncompliance as early as the 29th? Or are you okay, waiting to the 14th? I'll just note that's not the full landscape. We're sort of we're bringing them a few at a time, but there are a number. So if you'd like to have a first conversation about them next week, happy to do that. But otherwise, I think it's easy enough to roll until the 14th. Commissioner, is there any preference? Commissioner Schiller? I think I'd like to hear about the matters as just an initial summary because I don't think that I'm aware right now of them. So it would be good to get those in front of us so that we're just so we know what's coming. Yeah, I think none of us are unless I don't think it's in a track or anything. I look at that, but there is a tracker that you've been sent. We can resend it until that does list all the different matters that are outstanding in the status. And I'm at commissioners, are you okay with them doing the first two? We've heard them at MGM. We know that there's an ask attached, and then we'll get the policy discussion underway on the 14th. Thanks. Okay, then we're turning to Chief Dwayne. Yep, we should be all set for MGM's quarterly report. We should have those materials by the close of business tomorrow. Okay. Thank you. I added item number Oh, there's a miscount. Sorry about that. Doesn't automatically change the numbers. So that's my eyes. So it would be the second item number seven. We have heard from Executive Director Bob it before and his predecessor on how the Mass Culture Council uses their distribution of gaining funds. I had the pleasure of just checking in with him with Commissioner Maynard. Commissioner Maynard had already established a call and I said, Oh, would you ask them to come to our meeting and Commissioner Maynard invited me to join the call, which was really nice. He's a dynamic leader in Massachusetts. And I think he'll it will be nice to conclude this month, February 29th with his report. And that's when he's available during duty and I reached out to our, his, his scheduler. So, but he does it will be for noon. So I may just have to do a little juggling. I think that's where we left it. Commissioner Maynard, you want to add to that? No, just to say, I agree with you about Executive Director Bob it. And I will say that I want to make sure that I'm looking at Mills, that he, that he knows what he's, what is expected to, to walk through. But that's, that's it. Yeah, I think he's going to bring a PowerPoint. And so Mills, you can connect with them. That's a good point. He has been here before. And I, I think it's got interesting initiatives using funds, started with them, Executive Director Walker. So, Commissioner O'Brien, I think you probably the only one who remember her presenting. So, but your good point. So we'll have Mills make sure that he's all set. Thanks. I think he, I think he mentioned a PowerPoint, but I can't remember. Commissioner Maynard raised a good point. We have a lot of folks who navigate sharing and everything with HDM, even if it's never really easy. So then returning, I think Derek is on vacation this week with his family, the procurement overview. Good morning, Madam Chair. Yes, this will be ready to go. We're expecting it to run somewhere between 20 and 25 minutes, leaving additional time for any discussion or question and answer. Okay. Thank you, Jacqueline. No problem. And then, and John will be involved too. And then the quarterly budget report. Same. We're expecting it to be it's ready to go. We should have the memo over to Trudy this afternoon. And it should be about 15 to 20 minutes. And then barring any questions and answers. We do have two by two set up for both items on Monday and Tuesday. So commissioners will be receiving a pre meeting briefing. Excellent. Thank you. Jacqueline. We know how important you are behind that team. So we just want to thank you. It's nice to have you join today. And all of us know how big of a contributor Jacqueline is to the organization. So thank you. Glad to help. Yeah. Good morning. Good morning. So the temporary renew the renewal of the temporary sportsway during operator licenses will be ready to go. That's probably about 10 15 minutes. Exclusive of discussion. Any questions for care on that and that process commissioners? Are you all set in care? Can you remind me? At one point, I thought that this was going to be a subset. Is this now? Is it all the renewals that people are? Yes, so it's all of the renewal request for renewal that we've received. So obviously the organizations that are no longer moving forward in Massachusetts, but everybody else who has a temporary license. Okay. Thanks. All right. And then we have Dr. Lightbound. Good morning. Good morning. The cap and promo items will be ready to go for the 29th. Okay. Those are pretty straightforward, right, Alex? Yes, I think it may be 15 minutes for all three of them total. Yeah. If anybody has any questions for Alex, you can reach out in advance, but we're getting we've seen these before. I think all of this entire commission. So yes. All right. I do see Judy with her hand up. So before I turn to you, Mark, Judy, are you are you adding it or do you want to come out here? Good morning, commissioners. I see that we have an executive session for the CapEx report for MGM. And I was just wondering if we could add to the agenda some language for an executive session to approve a couple sets of executive session minutes. We can't. Thank you. Thank you. My apologies. No problem at all. The second session minutes. Just so you know that that might be at the end of the meeting and Joe's second session might be in the middle of the meeting. So we'll figure it out. Joe and I'll coordinate what's best for MGM Spring. Okay. Thank you. And do you you're going to give me the dates, right? In an email or something? Yes. Thanks. And that's with Commissioner Hill. Sorry, I'm nodding and I'm recognizing you cannot see me. I'm writing about looking up. So I could hear the nodding, Judy. Alright, now we're turning to Mark, player risk identification. Are you gonna I think I spoke to Todd that maybe this should be on its own. What do you think about that, Mark? That is fine. I'm anxious to get this before the commission. But if we want to identify a date, that would be fine. How long do you think it would be? I mean, I think it's an hour presentation discussion. And you're going to be all set by then. But by when? I don't have a date by this one. Well, it's on right now for the 29th. Right. I am set and ready to go whenever. Excellent. But I'm sorry, Madam Chair, are you saying that we were talking about a special? Well, I when Todd Todd was last year, he said that he was working with you like to prepare. And then when we saw the materials, I said, Oh, I wonder if it would would be better for Mark and his presentation to have it on a separate day standalone meeting. But if you're saying you're all set and timing works, that's fine. It is. I'm not managing the agenda by any stretch of the imagination, but it looks long. And this is this is a rather long presentation. So that that would be my only concern. All right. I think I've got it. Okay. Thanks. We'll keep it on the 29th for right now. Okay. Perfect. Okay. And then the next one is the cashless game, Jerry and Mark. Yes, we'll be all set for that on the 29th. And how long do you think that will be caring? Maybe in 20 or 30 minutes, Mark, do you think? Yes, that sounds right. And Dr. Andrews is also a part of that presentation. Yeah, thank you. Sorry about that, Bonnie. So we have the executive director screening committee update. How are we doing? We're doing great. We have a meeting Monday. And I would anticipate you'll start to see calendar holds shortly to set up meetings for will be at least to recommend to data that process. I'm hoping that that's what's going to happen on Monday. This will start to contact final candidates and set up the interviews, the public interviews with the whole commission. Okay. Okay. And you'll just work with the truth. Yep. All right. Thank you. Congratulations on that good work. Okay. Commissioner Maynard, do you want to weigh in? No, just looking forward to moving forward. All right. And then we have the general population survey report. Yeah. Yeah, we had actually talked about this one is what I recall that we wanted to find a special date for that we would move it off of the 29th. Actually, I do know that what I talked about was the player one because that was the materials that I went with the time. But I'm fine with maybe you and I had talked about the general population survey or we did this in public. How long do you think that will be? I mean, I would give that an hour as well. So, but we are not ready for the 29th at this point. So, we'll need to push that to another date. Okay. And that's the document. Correct. Rachel, she knows. Okay, good. I was promoting her in any case, but it turns out. All right. Good. And then the adoption of the mission statement. That's ready to go. I think we bumped it from a meeting that was overloaded last time. So, yeah. Awesome. All right. Thank you. I don't even know if I checked in with the two of you on rolling up. I think you would offered it up at the last agenda setting meeting. So, thank you. All right. And I took advantage of it. It was a long meeting last week. So, I think this one may be a little bit different as I look because of the regulation. We don't have regs on for next week in limited sports weighting. So, it may work out just by mark. Okay. Stick to this. But let me just do a little bit of calculation and see what Trudy thinks. Okay. Great. Judy, you still have your hand up. Sorry. I still have my hand up. I apologize. Let's lower the hand. Okay. Meeting minutes for the 14th will be June 1st, June 15th, and June 21st. And that's for the 14th. Okay. June 1st, 15th, and 21st. Yes. I'm doing the silent nod again. Yes. Got it. Okay. All right. Before we go to the 14th, though, is there anything else that any team member wants for the 29th week here? Those who came on by accident, right? Okay. All right. Great. And we'll roll over the general population survey and figure that one out more. All right. So, we'll have those meeting minutes. I'll just say up there on the 14th cushion show. You want to keep it on? Yes, please. Okay. Right. Thank you. I like them. I know that there have been a couple, there's a tour scheduled and that there was a tour. And I think that it's important to update the other commissioners that those are happening. So maybe that's a good time to just collect. Sure. Yeah, just to let you know the good news. I think Derek and team did a tour too for AF. So the good news is that our colleagues in the legislature are interested in these topics and they're reaching out to us. So thank you. So, Madam Chair, if I can just say that again, to the legislators, whoever wants to ever reach out to us for a tour of any of our casinos to learn about our problem gaming department, our finance department, whatever it is that they want to know about, please feel free to reach out as others have already done. Excuse me. Over the last 30 or 60 days. Due to the proposal that was put forth by the governor, we've actually had some legislators reaching out to the commission for some some answers to some questions. And out of all of those, we end up having tours, it looks like. So just want everybody to feel comfortable doing that. Yeah, that's a really a good invitation. Commissioner Hill and you can even bring it up in a commissioner update in the next meeting as well. And most importantly, we thank team members who are coordinating work and and his managers are coordinating these tours and they're excellent ambassadors for the commission. And I know Mark has been really helpful on those. So thank you. That will be a good legislative update. We'll let you know what we've been doing and people that have reached out to us. So yeah, thank you, Madam chair. And you know, generally, maybe not a signing never. We're always cautious to not necessarily assign who's asking the particular questions. But the nature of the questions are critical question to know. And and in some cases, I know those questions have made us reexamine some regulations and they've been very transparent about that along the way. But thanks. And thanks to the staff who are involved in those tours. Okay, then we have regulations, Carrie. Yes, we will be all set for 221. That's just will it will be returning for final vote and discussion of any comments. Can you remind me what 221 is, please? It's the license fee. It's the clarification regarding the million dollar payment. Thank you. So that's pretty straightforward. Nothing else. That's it for rights for that day. Okay, and sports wagering. I know that we've got one under review that will go over. Yeah, we probably will we'll definitely have something on the 14th just nothing concrete right at this point. Okay. And then Mark, you would want to bring to the public discussion and update on the federal legislation. I think I would suggest to coordinate that with legal. You want to keep that on? Yes, please. Thanks, Justin and Carrie. I just gave you an assignment. So sorry. Okay, I think it's interesting. And you may you may well be aware of Justin from your prior work about this. Yeah, I think we have a follow-up. Okay, great. Thank you. And then we've got Dr. like on something that we had under review and it's coming now for the 14th. Yeah, we're still on for that. I did have a question. We took public comments back in the summer when this first came up. And with the proposed budget and all some of the horsemen may want to make comments and I didn't know if how the commission felt about that or if they should just send it to the any comments to MGC comments. Dr. like that I use saying that so we do have the public comments so we need to make sure those are the old ones are involved. Are you are you saying that you we should be two things one posting again opportunity to get written comments now. We certainly should maybe do that in light of the budget, the governor's budget proposal. Are you also asking should we invite them to speak. Either whatever the commission, however the commission would like to handle it, we could certainly ask for public comments. And you know, I'm not sure if we'll have with the timing if the written comments would suffice for the commissioners, I think it would. I always worry about, you know, it's a public meeting so it's a little bit different than a public hearing. Right. And so I always worry about omission as opposed to, you know, we want to be inclusive. So I like the participation from the horse racing community, but I do think given that we have until March 14 that probably the written comments should should work. If we feel like there's more requests we could do in a public hearing, you know, of some sorts and we can make sure it's inclusive commissioners what do you think just extend out for written comments at this point. I would agree with you on that. Yeah. Anybody disagree with that. Okay, because it is March 14 and not just next week. So, so that's a for you, Tom. Can you coordinate with with Alec to make sure that we also just because it's a gender setting. Maybe Alex, you will reach out to your stakeholders, but can we also maybe do. I asked much for help for you to do that commission update this afternoon that we're inviting the community to the horse racing community to make comments if they have any on this item. I only say that because there's just more process on our other meetings. And then Alex, you'll put it out to your community that you're inviting. All right. And Christian Hill, I'll follow up with you on that. I'm just saying Alex could join, but I'm trying to keep her afternoon free. Join the meeting. Thank you. I know it is a big issue. So thanks. Yes. All right. Anything else for the 14 other than the items that we've come up with so far. I love sure. I did have one to add, please. Well, that after I don't go first down, thanks. Thank you. The unpaid winnings from the four tracks. These will be from 2022. That we'd be collecting. Okay. Thanks for sending that link. Yes. And that's by statute. Got it. Thank you. Okay. Great. Now, Joe. Yes, we have a request from. I think that we would like to, we would like to, we would like to, we would like Medford to repurpose some earlier community mitigation funds that would like to bring in front of the commission. But also we would like to, you know, we've started our review process of our new applications. And I think. You know, based on our early review. You know, the process for approving these is probably going to be a little bit different from previous years. I mean, we haven't. Exactly figured out exactly what this is going to look like. So we just, we'd like to get some input from the commission on what, what you'd like to see, how you'd like to see it. And that kind of thing. So that when, as we move forward, you know, we're, we're, we're sort of all in alignment. So I'm thinking about a half hour, maybe between the, the two items. Yeah. Okay. And I think everybody's going to be interested in the new process. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. All right. Anything else? Madam chair. So MGM Springfield has requested an amendment of their beverage license. So we anticipate being ready to present that to the commission on the 14th. Okay. Thank you. Anything else. Mark, are you laying in. I'm good. Thank you. We mentioned you earlier because we just wanted to extend our appreciation for your team doing the tours for some of the public officials who've reached out. So make sure to let them know. We appreciate that. Yes. Thank you very much for acknowledging. All right. Anything else? All right. March 28th. We'll have, I'm not expecting to have the dates yet. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Judy, but do you? Oh, I do. Oh, she does. Thank you. All right. So we have June 29th. July 10th. And July 11th. Thank you. I just said about date. I would just keep it on because that's about times. Things are going to start becoming, you know, changes to the budget will start happening at that time. Okay. And then do you know if I. Chance carry on regulations for that day. Yes, I know one at least we will have 205 CMR 15 coming back for a final vote and discussion of any comments. Anything else from legal on that? Okay. Not right now. And then we have your item. Alex. Yes. Okay. Anything else for you on that date? No. Okay. Anything else that. We'll have items for sports wager. I'm sorry. I did. It's all right. Just keep it on. My apologies. No problem. Okay, Mark. We would like to bring a draft of the FY 25 research agenda. Okay. Great. Thank you. You make it play to. Hi, Dr. Andrews. Okay. Anything else you want to add Bonnie or. I'll set. Okay. Anything else team that you can. Imagine for March 28th. All right. We'll go through our under review. We're going to put Andrew, your item. And then the general population for right now. Survey. Under review. Mark, that's okay. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah. Okay. The island review process under review. Yes. Yep. Okay. Mr. Brian compliance committee. Yep. Okay. So under review. Okay. Those community agreements. That's still ongoing. Okay. Joe, you beat to it. I'm sorry. No. The issue around that restrictions Bruce. Yeah, we're, we're still working on that. Okay. Okay. Okay. Under review. We'll keep the item under review on the executive director that we're moving forward on that. Yeah. How's it? How are we doing in terms of. Their extension. So, so we've had a couple of meetings, but we have a meeting next week with on core. And us and a and K. To discuss. I think we're going to come back to the commission with. An update. I'm not sure if we'll be ready for the 14th or the 28th. I think we're going to wait till see what happens to that meeting. And then we can. Find a time to. To kind of update the commission on where we are and where things are headed. Right. Thank you. I think a commissioner, Brian, this one is the one that you were particularly interested in. Do you want to. No, it's still under review. Unless you disagree with me. Nope. I think that's right. And in terms of nine and 10, those are two that I was interested in. I'm not sure. Carrying how. You. You know, if you've been thinking about those two, we haven't really discussed it. Yeah. I haven't had an opportunity to discuss it with you, but I haven't had an opportunity to discuss it with you, but I haven't had an opportunity to discuss it with you, but I haven't had an opportunity to discuss it with you. I haven't had an opportunity to discuss it with you, but I think if the commission is looking for discussion only on these two items and just sort of a refresher on the history of the regs, what the regs say. What. A discussion of if you might want to make some changes, I know that we can be prepared for item 10 on the 14th. I'm not sure about item nine. I think the chance is maybe more urgent commissioners, if you recall at the end of that last decision on this, we did. I think director Bannon used you actually affirmatively said, we probably should look at that rag. And I think I did. In. We could at least have some discussion. I think it might make sense for a little bit of direction from the commission. As we've learned a little bit now. I'm not seeing any disagreement on that. As long as it puts you in an okay place, carry work wise. Yes. We can certainly bring item 10 on March 14th for discussion. Yeah. And while the factorial authentication, if you recall commissioners. I read doesn't mandate it. Many of the operators require it though. But not all. It's what I understand. And I think Ohio. Is moving ahead to mandate it across the board. And that's really. When I. Looked at. When I suggest that maybe we revisit that. The amount of friction that's. Required for multifactorial is. Is the, is the issue. I think for the operators. Patrons. It's one of those things where. Across the board. And that's really. When I. I looked at when I suggest that maybe we revisit that. The amount of friction that's. Required for multifactorial is. Is the, is the issue. I think for the operators. Patrons. It's one of those things where. Across the country. I don't know. Operators probably. Offer it. In a big question. Should we mandate them. To require patrons. To make that this, you know, to do it rather than giving it. The choice of the patron. So that's just my thinking. Item number 11. That would be. We've got that category three. I think at the time, I wasn't sure Caitlin, if we could go forward. So I take it under review to my apologies. But. That should be. Category one and two. It's. One. Again, we can read. We can fix the names, but it's group. It would be the group. One. And that we talked about a little bit earlier, putting on the 14. Could it be one and two? Can we do that? Yeah. It's not two. It's just though it's just. Lower level. All right. I am just going to say. I am. I have been at least consistent getting this wrong. And we are going to rename it. If anything, but it is category one below level. Group. Group one. Yeah. We're trying to stay away from category because we have category. So now we're going to call it group one. And that's the, um, the one with the least amount of commission involved. Yeah. All right. So, and that was already put on for the other. Yeah. Thank you. Well. Group one. And I like, I like the change in moment nature. So thank you. If Grace were here, she would have corrected me a long time ago and gotten it in my head. I think that's definitely a point where I've missed grace on. On my consistent error. All right. Now they're the seal of approval commissioner Brian. I haven't checked in yet with. Mills and dates. No, not nor am I. Any, any update from you, Mills on that should. Um, you probably should give a little bit of guidance. On this is on the seal of approval. I think, right. How do you want to proceed with that? Commissioner Brian to get it going. Um, so I know, um, I believe was it New Jersey that has something on there. So what if we can see that. See what you guys have in mind to start the conversation. I can link up with Mills and just share with him what I found for New Jersey. And then if, if, if, I mean, he's the graphics expert. So he can look at it and, and then, you know, we can think about, think about it and date. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely a day project too. So, yeah, I was, I was going to say, I appreciate that, that resume line from Justin, but I am absolutely not a graphics expert. It's, it's not me. Um, and Microsoft paint maybe. Um, but yeah, Justin, I appreciate that. Um, uh, Dave and I can work on, uh, something with our, uh, with our vendor as well. Um, so happy to have happy to play that out. Yeah. Cause I think that, um, we're just a little stuck in process in terms of commissioners getting involved. I think it can be, you know, straight with Dave and Justin and working. And it's kind of a fun project from a graph point of view. Uh, in terms of policies that would need to be associated with Justin, perhaps you could help us on that. Yeah. So, uh, I had, I had done a little bit of research into this. The commission would, uh, appreciate the commemoration on it, just explaining why we have the basis to do this and how it's already covered by our ranks, which I believe it is. I'm happy to memorialize that in written form. And we can work it up for, you know, one of, one of these meetings in March and happy to have it ready by then. Yeah. And, and then the skill doesn't need to be decided, but the work will be underway. So what, um, with March 14th work, March, yeah, March 14th is fine. Great. I like the idea I mean, when you said it, and it's put into motion. All right. Let me have, um, uh, DPH, uh, that, that stays under review. At some point, I think it would be very good for us to hear their, um, from gambling approach on equity. Um, then we've got, uh, the Sports Waging Operative Support of the Reports. We just keep that in as a placeholder. We won't have the first one today and it's, you know, tomorrow in commissioners, there will be two other dates. Crystal, I don't know if you're hearing me. Let's see if there she is. Hi. Good morning, Crystal. Do you mind, um, reminding me, I meant to print that out. Crystal, the two dates for the separate reports, because two operators needed a little relief today or tomorrow. Yeah. So this is scheduling challenges. Yeah. So on the 28th, um, draft things will be added to, um, that meeting to present. And on the 29th, um, PSI will be added to the public. And that was already scheduled. And on the 28th, the 28th, I think was the, it is a very short meeting scheduled for the cessation of the window. Yes. Carrie, we talked about that. We'll add this item. And then the 29th will just be one short report. And again, could you remind me draft things 28th and 29th? PSI. PSI, thanks. Okay. Right. So, uh, that will complete. Crystal's reports. Thanks, Crystal. All right. And then the general population survey report is not still there, Mark. And then game sense evaluation, you and law. Correct. That will still be under review. Okay. And then, uh, commissioner Maynard. You have, um, you want to keep that matter under review? Yes. So I want to keep that, um, the restrictions under review for now. Yeah. And keep it on, on watch. All right. And I have one more to add, Madam chair. Yes. We've been approached, uh, with, uh, by two licensees, uh, about virtual wagering. So I would like to put that under review for future discussion. Yeah. Virtual, not e-sport virtual. Virtual. Yes. I remember the training. Yes. We will probably see some petitions come our way for that in the near future. Um, madam chair, may I have one additional item or. Yeah. I just, I'm looking, I thought I saw commissioner Brian leaning in, but maybe, um, I just missed my head mark. I can wait. Okay. Sorry commissioner. That's okay. I would like to, we, we had the job quality report on for a while. Um, that report is now ready. Um, so if we, or it's close to being ready, it just is, and it's final review. So I'd like to add that back in. It's the casino job quality report specific. Okay. Sure. Brian. Um, it's just, I don't want to embarrass you, but I just wanted to make sure that, um, you, madam chair, put you in an awkward spot, but I did mention this to you right beforehand that. We'd love everybody to sort of make sure there's something coming up a date that works for everybody. Um, prior to your departure. Um, that was announced yesterday. So not really an under review, just something to throw out there in terms of, uh, I know you don't want a big deal, but, um, we. I think a commissioner may or not, I spoke this morning about making sure that, um, you know, you're not going to be able to make sure that you're ready for the 21st. Since we are a majority vote. Now I appreciate that. Um, I appreciate, I appreciate your acknowledging, um, my announcements. Uh, They're hard at work. And this, uh, a genocide process reminds us of how much we've got on our plates. So today I just want to thank everybody for the good work that you've done and continue to do. Thank you. Thank you. So thank you. Madam chair, if you need a majority consensus, I will add my two cents that we should have something before the 21st. Put on a date. There's a wonderful, um, addition in the lot of the lottery, um, statute where, um, the chair of the lottery was the treasure. Has veto power. I've always wished that that just had made its way into our piece of legislation. But, um, thank you. Thanks. Appreciate it. Anyway, um, back to work. Anything else. Thank you. Anything else. All right. And as I mentioned, um, Grace expects to be back, um, from her maternity leave on, on Monday, right? Trudy. Um, She's taking her head. And, um, And as I said earlier, um, It's amazing what a human being can accomplish in four months. Audrey is thriving. And I know that grace is looking forward to coming back. We'll get. And I said that grace is extremely important to any planning that could possibly happen. For the, um, Celebrations that will, will come and are well-deserved. Okay. So, um, We have another meeting guys. I'm just looking at some new, right? Um, Yeah. It's new, right at noon and we're going to have, um, Uh, We'll hear from three sports wagering, uh, companies and I believe crystal. I've got to go back to my notes, But the order may slightly, um, Have changed. So your materials may, um, I think to Trudy got the materials in order, But it's now Fando will go first, right? Crystal. And then that's correct. Yes. Thanks. I'm going to go back to that, you know, Just all again, And then I'll just go, um, Fando, uh, that and him and when that, So we appreciate their flexibility. All right. Thanks everyone. Do I have a motion to adjourn? Oh, I did not see any of that. It was just a lot of things that just happened on my screen. I heard a second and it's like, You know, You know, You know, You're all, um, We're all moving. So, uh, Commissioner O'Brien. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. And I