 The greatest influence I have to pursue higher education has been the poverty that I've witnessed when I was growing up and the lack of education that went with it. To get to a nearest school, you have to walk 15 kilometres or more and then know medical doctors about. So it wasn't until I was 16 that I saw a doctor. So then I can see the effect on it to the community but then I decided that I would be different and I would do whatever it takes to get myself an education. Risa came to do her PhD with us four years ago and was an impressive candidate in that she understood intuitively that the way to achieve a degree, the way to get a degree in higher research was to set yourself achievable goals. This is the place where I learned how to think logically and also I learned a lot about how to socialise in terms of hanging out with my fellow students and also talking with a lot of academics who are actually experts in their fields and learning a lot from them and this is the place where I launched my endeavours to give back to the community so then that development leadership skills. So in totality it has been a place of ultimate development, personal development. One of the nice things about having Risa in the lab though was that she helped the other students to see that the work that she was doing on the bench on the day although it was very important is not just the only thing in the world. So she brought into the lab another dimension to life and helped other students to see that outreach and contributing to the community and being part of the community and talking about your research in the community is an important part also of being a higher degree student. This is like beyond my wildest dream. I know this is a cliché but coming from my background it's almost impossible so I kind of have that feeling of it's really a mixed feeling whether I'm here, is it happening or a feeling of jubilation that I've actually achieved something that no one else in my village has done and also the sense of hope that now I have the skills and ability to actually do more out there in the real world so it's been a great feeling and I can't wait. It's always a happy day to see young people going on to the next stage of their lives.