 You mentioned that Eda at Pingla, is it really possible to imagine those or they are just psychological nadis? We don't have to imagine those, they are there. Yes, very much. They are not a physical existence. If you cut this body and see where are the nadis, you won't find them. They don't have an existence like that. But if you become more and more aware of the way the energy is moving, you will see it is moving in a defined pattern. It is not moving haphazardly. So there are seventy-two thousand different ways in which it is moving. All these seventy-two thousand are springing from these two main nadis, Eda and Pingala. It's distinctly experiencing, experienceable. Yes.