 All right, well, it says offline for me still. Let me know when we're ready. Oh man, oh, I can see us. Pop, here we go, yeah, I guess we're live. We're live here in the, this is a crowded hall here in the, what are we calling this, the West Halls here. It's South Hall actually. West is registration if you're in person. I don't even know where I'm at, but this is good. Hello everybody, welcome to CloudNative TV. This is the daily recap show. Who are you? I'm Bill Mulligan, I work for the CNCF. Dad, Pop, Andrea. They people call me Pop. So today is in a bunch of co-located events. I actually was part of one of them was the EBPF day. Duffy, by the way, is a little late because he's closing EBPF day. It was an incredible day. Bill, do you know what EBPF is? I haven't heard about it. I heard it's the hot new technology on the block. All the cool kids are doing it, but can you give me a little insight about what you learned today? That's a great question, Bill. I've been doing this a long time. So basically, EBPF is enhanced Berkeley packet filtering. It's basically like a tap into the kernel. What I love about it, this is CN EBPF day. So it's CloudNative. So it's a lot of projects like Cilium, like Falco, which is I'm the community leader for, and as well as we had Microsoft. So Microsoft had purchased a company called, acquired a company called KeenVolk. And so they were part of this. The whole day we're just showing folks end user stories. So Apple was there, Google, a bunch of folks came on and talked about how they're using EBPF. Wow, that sounds like a great event. And what was your favorite talk from the day? The Apple Falco talk, not just because it was, but it was like, I'm being dead serious. I mean, they really, like it was a back and forth. So they had somebody who was in the slides, Melissa from Apple, basically was talking to Eric in the slides, asking a question. He was responding to the question in the slides. It was very cool. I mean, again, every one of those talks, I was a part of the program committee. Every single one of those talks was awesome because which camera on guys? Where did we go? Right there, we're number one. Oh yeah. You know, everyone is special to me because the program committee is great. It was Liz Rice, Thomas Groff, Jesus, Loris DiGiorni from Sysdig as well. And also Andy Randall and Chris Cool from Microsoft. So it was all of these groups we all got together. We had this idea a couple of months ago for it. We talked to Chris and Echak and it was like, there's a awesome day. Let's do an EBPF day. So it really was good. So it was also some other events, right? Yeah, that's awesome. But before we jump into that, I just wanna say, if people are wondering what this is right here on my lap, this is an iPad. I'm watching this stream. You can please like comment, ask your questions if you have any comments from us. Looks like we have our first comment. Hello folks from, it looks like Carlos from Berlin. If I don't recognize it. Carlos Pinato. Great man. I've heard of him. Yeah, yeah, one or two times. He's six tour Falco and Kubernetes, one of the release managers for those. Can you say everything he does in open source in one breath? I can't. I know a lot. Like if it was like a dollar for everything he worked on, we'd be really, we'd be broke. Oh, we're, oh, we have the wrong Carlos. So this is a shout out to Carlos from Raleigh, USK native dude. Sorry. Oh, it's okay. I know that. So that's another, is Carlos in Brazil is or? No, from Raleigh. From Raleigh, okay. Who works on K native. Okay, hey, shout out to you Carlos. But shout out to the other Carlos as well. Okay. So cool. Yeah, so we had a couple other like great events. You didn't realize we didn't do? What? This is a disclaimer. This is a CNCF broadcast, right? And so we follow the code of conduct. So please everyone, please be kind and wonderful to one another. And thank you so much for joining the chat. Why am I so animated, Bill? I'm so excited for this set. Did you all see this set? This came from like Bill and all of our brains and we made this happen. So I'm so excited for it. Yeah, I guess maybe if we're talking about the set, we can give a little shout out to all the logos behind us. I know a lot of people have heard about cloud native TV. It's the new live stream show for the community, by the community. It's a lot of great hosts talking about different ways you can get involved in cloud native. So for instance, one of my favorite shows, actually I'm CNCF for neutral. We don't have any favorite children. They're all equal to us. But shout out to David McKay from the, let's see if I can do this at the right time. Recently a new dad. Recently a new dad. Oh, that's the wrong side. Okay. On this side, if I point to you, the looks good to me logo is teaching people how to contribute to cloud native projects. So you go on the stream with one of the maintainers and he talks them through it. He's like, you know, merge pull requests live. So become a contributor to different cloud native projects live on a live stream. So pop, I know, I know you like to talk about your show, but I don't, I'm not talking about my show. So other, other favorite. I know again, children, all of them. I mean, cat kills it all the time. I'm really happy with BART show artist code. It's a brand new show that we started airing. Latinx, Leonardo, great show as well. I mean, gotta give a shout out to Siam for certs magic. Again, really cool. And by the way, if you're tuning in right now, Duffy's a little late. He is finishing out the CNEBPF day for this co-located day. This right here is a recap of the, there's been a bunch of co-located events. We have prom con. We have Envoy con. Envoy con. We have the identity spire spiffy day, which was a lot of talks of Cole Kennedy did a really good talk today. I hung out with Cole last night. Great dude. Yeah. We have getting started with Kubernetes hosted by Google cloud. We have the cloud native for eclipse foundation day. We have Envoy con. We have production identity day, prom con, supply chain security con. There's a virtual crash course in MTLS and authorization for Kubernetes with linker D, virtual recrusing messy schema migrations with schema hero, virtual Rook enterprise storage for Kubernetes and the road back of TIKV, a cloud native key value database. I mean, action packed. And what, by the way, even in the sessions, I kind of walked around a lot of the sessions, you know, even all things considered. And again, the CNSF has done a wonderful job in terms of keeping everybody healthy, all of that. I think, you know, the turnout has been really good. Also, look, when you're virtual, you're coming in and being part of this. We want to make sure even the folks at home are part of this. Again, all this week we'll be doing these recaps so you can see what's going on. You can feel part of the action. Anybody else joining us that we want to talk about in the channel? There is a question for you, Potts. Where did you leave your wig? Are you talking, so I played the part today of wig store Jesus is basically because of Dan Lawrence, he's the, he's sick store Jesus. Wonderful dude. Again, he's, they put together the software supply chain con. I will not be wearing the wig again until maybe Dan comes on again. You never know. If he's gonna come on the show, we'll do that, but I don't have the wig on me. Yeah, hopefully a little bit later. We also have a special guest with us today, our first one for today. It's Misha here to come talk about his experience. He's a first time attendee of CubeCon. He's looking around in the audience, getting excited. Come on, there's a lot of people here. Hey, I don't know you buddy. Yeah, we met him right before this. Super excited that he apparently installed Minicube for the first time last night. By the way, some trivia. You know who created Minicube? Dan Loric. Dan Lawrence. Oh, Lawrence. Lawrence, yes. Come on up buddy, Misha. Thank you for coming on. Here, you can take this seat. I'm not doing anything. Over here you go. Okay, well, welcome to the live stream. So for the folks at home that don't know you yet, can you tell us a little bit about yourself? Yeah, my name is Misha Herscu. I work at a primary venture partners, early stage generalist VC fund in New York. And I'm just here to learn more and see what exciting projects I might come across that could eventually lead to some kind of startup, basically. Okay, that's awesome. And so how did you first hear about CubeCon and what really brought you here today? Yeah, so I've been exploring a lot of different, I don't think that's what I can say. It's a little bit secret. I've been exploring a bunch of different ideas in just generally the open source world. And in a variety of conversations I've had over the last few months, I've heard people say like, oh, and I'm going to CubeCon. And after hearing that enough times, I was like, you know, maybe I should be there. It sounds like it's a place to be. I'll be able to learn a lot. And so far that has definitely been the case. I spent most of the day just kind of talking to random people and learned a lot, had a few deep conversations about Kubernetes, about what's going on in the ecosystem and some other projects. And yeah, I just learned a lot from a lot of people who were really willing to kind of spend the time to chat with someone who doesn't really know very much about Kubernetes. Wow, that's awesome. Yeah, I think what people always tell us is the cloud native community is like very welcoming. And it sounds like you have a little bit of that today. Yeah, absolutely. I think one of the people I was talking to actually mentioned this, humans are by nature fairly tribal. And you see that like football games. But like, this is an area where yes, it's a tribe, you know, but it's a very welcoming tribe where it's kind of open and everyone can walk in and meet people, be welcomed in, learn a lot. In my last job, my kind of most similar thing is I'd use Docker and ECS and Fargate and I hadn't used Kubernetes. So I kind of had one starting point as an analogy. And I think if you have even just like a tidbit of knowledge about like what's going on and what the problems are they're being solved. It's like, you know, people are willing to spend the time to really bring you through how things work and yeah, what's going on that's exciting and who everyone is. So yeah, I had a great time. I'm looking forward to the rest of the week. Well, that's awesome. Do you want to tell us maybe a little bit about like what's one thing that you learned today? So a lot of the things I learned today are actually things I don't want to say live because it's the benefit of being here is it's not that, you know, if I want to learn like how Kubernetes works or something I can learn that online from tutorials. But what's different is being here, I learned, I'm thinking of several specific examples of how things really work at real companies that are like, you know, like big public companies for example, stuff like that kind of insight or insight that you just couldn't get from just like Googling or watching a YouTube tutorial about how Kubernetes works or something like really seeing how different large companies and small companies are solving some of their problems in terms of like DevOps. And I'm looking into some machine learning projects around that, but yeah, just I'm getting some kind of insight or insight about where people's priorities are and how they're solving their problems, which is really fascinating and valuable. Yeah, absolutely, that's awesome to hear that you're having the experience already on day one and there's four more days to go. Now I won't press you too much on what the next unicorn is gonna be coming out of New York, but tell me a little bit, like what are you excited for for the rest of the week? Like what's on your schedule? Yeah, so geez, I can't say too much. I'm excited for all the booths to be open. I'm playing like one of the things I'm most excited about, there's a whole long list of startups that you can see on the website and on some of the banners and just in there. I'm excited to just walk around and see, talk to each person at their booth. What are you guys working on? Yeah. What are you guys excited about? I'm mostly here to listen and learn. I don't have necessarily one hypothesis or like angle I'm going for right now. So I'm here to just absorb as much as I can from the community. Wow, that's awesome. It sounds like you're in the right place now. Definitely feels that way. Last question, LA, opposite coast, is it East Coast, Best Coast or West Coast, Best Coast? You know, I'm in LA right now so I don't want to answer that question. Okay, but what's one thing you're excited for this week in LA? I've already been invited to two different parties that are being put on by sponsors of the event. So I'm excited to get out and socialize in a much warmer place. Awesome, glad to have you here. And thanks for joining us on the stream today. Yeah, absolutely and great to meet you. Yeah, so there you have it live. We just picked them up off the conference hall and that is a real reaction to day one of KubeCon, CloudNativeCon 20 years. People really do enjoy KubeCon, Bill. You see that? That's a real person. For this real interaction. We see thousands of people in the crowd right now and we pluck that guy out and it's magic. Yeah, so it's great. So we have a couple of reactions to that. There is also, if you haven't seen it yet and you're joining us virtually, there's a Slack channel you should join, KubeCon hallway mix and mingle. This is a great one to interact with different people. And favorite thing at KubeCon, hallway track. The mix and mingle, it's my favorite thing. Look, we were all in zooms. We go, you know, basically every single day for the folks that are remote, dims, Carlos, sorry. Yeah, so Carlos Santana, if there's so many other people that are running stuff that basically you join that channel, you can talk, you can interact, but they do zooms every day. So if even you're virtual, you can kind of interact with each other. Yeah, so if you go to the hallway mix and mingle, you'll find the zoom link every single day. So you can have the same kind of interactions, the same kind of deep discussions that you're hearing about in person. You can have some of that virtually too. A couple other comments from the stream. I learned about the community and how people really use Kubernetes. My first KubeCon was an info overload and shocked by how much reach Kubernetes has. Party with common sense and meet people if you're here in person. The greatest open source community that has ever was, that has ever been, is Kubernetes. The cloud native community is what nurtured that. So today, again, in the BPF day, we had Sarah Navalny, who's one of the people that is one of the matriarchs of our community. She basically was helping to ensure the event. She talks, she's now in the closing panel as well. But this whole thing that what we need to do is show inclusion and stuff like that. This gentleman came on stage and he's like, this is my first KubeCon, well, we welcome you. All of us were that one first person, right? So you need to ensure that people are having a great experience. Yeah, absolutely. It's somebody showing up new every single day. I remember the first KubeCon I went to in Copenhagen, I was like, wow, this is a whole community of awesome people doing great things. Like how can I be a part of this? So another question is there a hallway mix and mingle in-person? Yes, there is. It's called walk around and make some friends. It's actually in the hallway, which is a foreign concept, if you've... We may have forgotten in the past 18 months, but there is hallways here. I can confirm we're onsite. We may do a live stream and just take the camera and go through the hallways. You all have that hallway experience. But anyway, I don't know if you have the budget this year for that. Maybe next year we'll do that. Yeah, Priyanka, if you're hearing us now, make sure you have a little line item for that. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, shout out to Bill here. Bill has been, he's our CNCF liaison for this cloud native TV, and I think this is the first time we've ever been on a stream together, dude, because we've put on so many streams. I don't think this is the first time we've done one together. That is a very good point. Respect. Yeah, it's good. I put you through hell, all right? Behind the scenes, I put this guy through hell. Last nine months have been the worst and best of my life. Dude, so demanding. It's been awesome. All right, so other co-located events today. A really big topic right now is supply chain security. I know that one got kicked off by the newly launched company, Chain Guard. I don't know, Pop, is there anything that you wanted to see about like software, bill of materials or supply chain security that you missed out on because there's another awesome co-located event that you were hosting. So I actually was part of the software supply chain. I walked in. He does everything. I just, you know, I put the wig on. I was wig-starred Jesus. And basically, long story short, they had, you know, the SolarWinds folks talking about some of the things that happened to them and using cloud native to be able to address those things. They had Dr. Alan Friedman, who basically wrote this, you know, kind of the specs for the term S-bomb, which is software bill of materials. I'm part of Stagged Security, so, you know, Technical Advisory Group, and they're, you know, building a reference architecture, first offer supply chain, which shameless plug for tomorrow. Cloud Native Security Day, Conf is tomorrow. Another co-located event. But again, in terms of software supply chain, you know, they hit it out of the park. Also, shameless plug. We did, there's a video there that we did that old tripod and the Popcast, which by the way, if you haven't seen, at Popcast Pop, we did a video that talked about Operation Salsa. So it's, you know, the salsa levels, which are like.