 on this episode of late night in the shop we're going to be checking this at oogle horn out also known as a clack clackston horn i don't know if this you know i don't know if it's uh what brand it is or anything but i do know it's made in new york i believe or new jersey we'll get into that i think we tested this once before and it didn't work so we're not going to restore tonight we're just going to see if we can get it working to see if it's worth restoring stick around grab a beer let's work on something okay guys so i know it's not friday night it's saturday night and i know i was supposed to do a live stream tonight um of karaoke but my niece was having problems with her truck all day yesterday and i had to finish it up today so i didn't get the garage ready so i'm sorry about that so we're going to try to shoot for next weekend again i'm terribly sorry and i'm sorry i didn't get a video out last night i was just too damn tired i worked on her truck till late after dark and it was just i was sore and you know i'm not supposed to be doing that i worked on it today so anyway i'm sorry about that so it is 12 24 what is it saturday the august 23rd so all right so now we've got our tester up here if we need it okay so what i want to do i do have a full charge and interstate battery down here i'm going to set the battery up here and we'll check it first because i can't remember if we check this or not i think we may have but as we go along i'll tell you a little bit about these things i'm not sure what year this is from they put these on a uh i got a lot of model a fours and uh this is a model fm the laboratories the elaborate ea lab ea laboratories incorporated brooklyn new york usa like i said we're just going to try to get this working um i fixed one of these when i was younger way younger like a kid from my dad put on his record and uh right here it says adjustment usually you just take one of these out it looks like to me like they may have these backwards because usually the adjustment one usually it has the jam nut on it to keep it from turning so i think this one may be the one we have to take out i'm not sure it's been been together for a while but i can tell you right now that's not the original wiring and that's damn sure not the original plug there i believe this to be a six volt and also this mount here these aren't these nuts are nylox they're nylox nuts so they're they're not you know original to this i think the mount might be i'm not positive like i said i don't know anything about it it's got some dings in it but if we can get it working we may try to straighten it out a little bit and restore first let's try to get it working i thought we tried this once and it didn't work um i i don't know if i filmed it i can't remember but i'm pretty i'm pretty sure excuse me i'm pretty sure it doesn't work so let's get this bag right here and we'll give it a quick test all we gotta do is uh put the red wire onto the power black wire on somewhere on the ground we'll see if it tries to do anything okay guys so let's go ahead and give us a shot they're positive negative like i said i believe this to be a 12 volt or six volt this is a 12 volt battery for what we're going to do it's not going to hurt it what it is is there's a little motor in here and if i remember right it's got like a like a metal diaphragm in here and there's a cog like a gear inside there that rubs on it like on a nipple on that uh on that diaphragm nipple and diaphragm in the same sentence wow okay so anyway and it vibrates and and this like you know makes the uh makes it louder kind of like amplify it so let's touch this onto the battery here that's negative and here's positive nothing's not even sparking just for shits and giggles let's see if it's a positive ground okay no so let's take the back off of this let's just shoot this over a little bit move you this way um like i said i thought that this was the one you took out to take this off of here but i mean hell it might not even be the right screws i don't know well that's not even a jam nut see someone's i don't know if i'll be able to fix this i think someone's tried to rewind this look look that's not that's not uh no um when this spins see if you listen you can hear okay well this thing i don't think it's going to be shit falling out of it look at that okay so what we're going to do see this is the adjustment here very rusty very rusty so what we're going to do see this is falling apart so i don't think we're going to be able to save this um in the way they they wired this what a shame that sucks and it's just uh it's just too far gone i do believe see someone's riveted that's not that's not original someone just kind of screwed this up didn't they what we're going to do is i'm going to try to push that back get a little screwdriver see what kind of tension these brushes have on them let's go ahead and take one of the brushes out that's not good hmm not good at all yeah someone's just wound that that's not that's not even that's not even right man what a shame to take something like this don't know what the hell you're doing and just uh just really pretty much screwed up you know i don't even think these are great brushes anyway someone's just what a shame what a dog on shame now this may be the ground here do i dare try it can i do this without blowing something up work for a second didn't it work for a second okay well let's go burn those freaking out all right hmm they just had this jammed in there so all right let's just clean this off i don't know what it's called commutator is that what that is i forget now same thing as a starter motor electric motor or whatever um so what we're going to do is we're going to put a little bit of 3-1 oil down in there a little bit up in here and we'll clean this off the best we can uh i got some electric cleaner up there we'll shoot it down and we'll try it again okay now look at this little water brush here i'm gonna do this i'm just gonna spray that down i'm going to just put the brush on there and turn in that wish i could get them brushes out there to clean them that would help although it took right off there didn't it this was negative so i don't think it really matters on these let's shoot a little bit of i'm using 3-1 oil because it's a little thicker it's almost like a motor oil but let that get down in there it's soaking it up so now we'll do the same thing on the top up here go to spin now suck some wires up to this this one i guess we'll just use again and it's kind of a good idea i would have done something different i think what i would have done was soldered some wires on there or something i can't believe they may be original i don't know i just never seen one wound that that uh that ugly before all right let me grab a piece of wire here i think i got one already trimmed let me find it okay so this is not the wires looking for but it'll work i'm just going to kind of do something like what they did because if this does work we will do a restoration i don't know if i can find brushes for this thing or not i'm sure i can i mean or make something work okay this one was positive this one was negative noise alert you know what that means that means we're gonna restore this uh i don't want to take this apart yet because i don't know when i can get to this um so i also might get a voltage reducer uh to reduce that from 12 volt to 6 volt uh for the next time we try it i don't want to burn it up but if you just tap it like a little bit it'll be fine we'll clean this up um but i really wanted to see the inside that but like i said i don't want to get it all apart put it back together because i believe yeah there's a couple gaskets here we may have to make if i remember right there's one on the bottom here and then you got your diaphragm that goes on and then another one on top and then this sandwiches them all together and i don't want to you know put it all back together and then take it all back apart again so because really all we're going to be doing is cleaning it and painting it now i'm going to try to get some of these dents out i'm not sure how i want to do that i don't know if i can get that that uh screen out of there if i can then i can get the dents out um so yeah that's uh that's pretty cool and it's pretty loud and i'm sure they don't appreciate me in the other rooms right now but it's okay i know it's a short video but so let me get you spun around here we'll chit chat for a minute like we do every week like i said i won't be able to do this every week and it's not always going to be on a friday that's what i shoot for it just wasn't in the cards for me this weekend so let me get you spun around okay guys so brought up some information here because i know a little bit about it but not enough to say this is for sure what years and all that so and also if you guys have any more any information um on it as well uh go ahead and leave it in the comments so that would be appreciated if you would share that information the clackston horn is the auga horns on the model t and model a fords of the 1920s and 30s okay see before that they had the bulb type you'd squeeze it and it would go kind of like bicycles had but they were bigger and more many and um that type of horn is probably one of the most memorable in automotive history the horns were loud and effective at getting pedestrians and animals out of the way inventor millerese hutcheson hutcheson was responsible for the clackston horns released to vehicles since the 1930s manufacturers have experiment experimented with the sound chamber and basic basic clackston type diaphragm to make sounds also there was something i was reading on here um what the clackston meant okay the clackston horn came around the 1920s a clackston horn the greek word klaxo means to shriek so this clackston horn used to make the sound through an electronically powered vibrating diaphragm and that would be this this one works as a motor now a regular car horn nowadays they vibrate okay they don't have a motor in them so just a little tidbit there for you i thought was uh very interesting now model eight wasn't the only one to use these horns i mean general motors used them dodge and uh i i believe dodge and i don't worry about that but i know general chevy's chevy's used them um but i don't see just as model fm and it's uh e al e a laboratories uh there is a no no incorporated i cannot find any numbers on here i'm sure it's been um i'm sure it's been repainted and it looks like it's been it's usually right in here there's a tag on them you know that would tell you you know like what year um this one has no tags so i'm i'm confident it's been repainted i mean it's real thick with paint and i believe this was a brush painted which was not uncommon back in them days but this is definitely original one you can buy these brand new now but they're just they're just not the same you know what i mean they're just uh there's just no comparison so i mean you just you just spin that thing a little bit and so um but yeah i will uh and stuff all over me i will uh see if i may back slow that audio down a little bit for you and um so you can kind of hear what it sounds like uh with a six volt it's still very loud it's not as fast it kind of you know up and down the old sirens were the same way like on fire trucks and stuff they used to hand crank them they had a guy stand them back up there on top of the truck hand cranking that siren and uh then they they went with a something like this effect only it had the siren inside what it is it's like a turbine type thing that's what gives that high pitched ring and that's why they would go and you see old movies then pulling up in a fire truck or police car and take like eight hours for it to stop because that thing was still spinning in there um so yeah pretty interesting now i'll have more information on this i'm sure once we do restore uh well i'm probably not even gonna do a full restore we're just gonna clean it up sand it off and paint it uh it's just gonna be painted black but it'll be fun um i i really didn't think i mean look look at the windings on them wires they may be original um i was you know uh when i was looking this up a minute ago about the the history of these to give you kind of somewhat of an idea of where they originated and stuff um i was trying to find some pictures of these originals i couldn't couldn't find one i'm sure i will but i didn't look real hard but i couldn't find one you know within a couple minutes um that had the cover off so i could see if those windings were original i thought they and they might be because it looks like um so they used to use cloth like now you know you got the rubberized coating um plastic type you know that's more it's rubberized but it's more of a plastic sheeting on the outside this is like two layers here um first and foremost this is just just rubber on the outside of it these let's see if i can get you in there those are cloth and the newer windings are just copper but they got a coating on them to keep them from short now it's just like a red color coating that covers the copper and then this is actually uh this is a cloth coated so i don't know if someone's unwound it and then rewound it that could be a possibility have one time and because usually you know i'm in like windings nowadays i don't have any right here but when when we take this part and clean it you know i'll try to find one and you'll see the difference in this in these things um i really didn't think this thing was going to work i mean we opened it up stuff's falling apart and see like that you know that's starting to come apart there right there and if you look at that one it's actually got a piece cracked out of it right there above my finger so i mean it works great so i am very very surprised okay guys so sorry for the short video but you know it is now 1252 okay so um yeah that was a pretty quick one let's go ahead and let's just put this back on here um we'll get a better screw than this we'll get one that you know if i gotta if i gotta weld over that whole re-drill and re-tap it we will but we'll put you know a better you know more suitable screw in it so i don't even know it's supposed to go down in there yeah okay so anyway again guys i'm so sorry that i didn't get to do the live stream tonight but hell nobody asked about it anyway right so but i'm going to try to shoot for next weekend it's had a lot of stuff come up you know my niece has helped me out a lot in the past and she is my niece so she's always gonna be my baby girl even though she's grown up and got her own kid and i'm just uh you know um so when my family needs help that's priority you know so i'm going to help them especially when they have helped me so yeah i'm gonna sit here and we'll finish my NA beer and uh have another cigarette and then i will edit this video for you the best of my ability and uh drop this video for you as soon as possible so um i think tomorrow i've got something uh monkeys got one of those um powered toothbrushes that's rechargeable it's kind of cool when you set it on the base there's no like wires or no prongs or nothing it's just kind of like just recharges somehow but um she went bought a new one and uh today because she said it wasn't working right but took the end off of it and it was just it's just dirty you know how hell she's had it i know when we got together it'll be four years in november and she had it then um so it's done her well but i thought about cleaning up see if we can get it to work and using it for cleaning parts small parts like carburetors outside the carburetors wheel bearing stuff like that and parts cleaner i figured it'd be good for that if we can get it working good enough so anyway well i might mess around with that that tomorrow it'll be sunday uh she kind of wants me to rest all day tomorrow i may do that i don't know but anyway again guys i'm so sorry but you know life happens and and the stuff you got to deal with once in a while and and i was more than happy to help her out so monkey helped her out too and there's some things on the truck we put just quick we put uh we you know we had to pull the center head off which is the intake manifold you know your heads will calm center heads but just the intake manifold we got we had to pull it off it's not that it's not that big of a deal we had it off in less than an hour putting new gaskets on it well we had to take it off because we had to put the knock sensors in and um we put them both in so and we got that back together and then we started running into issues there's that that suburban's got rear heat so up at the heater core where the heater hoses are you've got your inlet and your outlet well they both of course have a smaller one that it's called like a bypass okay it comes out out of the inlet in to the uh goes back to the rear heater and then the other one comes out and back into the return and i don't know i leaned on or something i snapped that off so we had to wait on monkey to get home so monkey got home and her her alternator it's another store her alternator it's uh it was a year old it'd be a year old in September September 18th as a matter of fact it'd be a year old started bearing started making noises so i listened to it with my stethoscope which i got right here very handy tool and uh back bearing was fine front bearing was growling and and you could just you could even spin it with your hand and hear it squeak squeak squeak squeak she goes to take it back well they didn't have one so they had to go to uh clear over to uh ship crystal river or was it hollywood yeah we do have a hollywood florida by the way so yeah i think they ended up having to go over hollywood and so anyway they they got one is get you know well they argued about it they made her pay for it by the way it's got a lifetime warranty but there wasn't a manager around to overwrite this so you know well she had to receive well she had to receipts in the truck i took pictures of the receipts she showed them to the guy and well they didn't have a manager to overwrite it so she had to end up paying almost two hundred dollars for a fucking alternator that's still under warranty and uh so anyway she's she thought well i better check this well they took it out of the box for you know and um the fucking pulley was dead it was broke it was damaged brand new it was damaged she's like you better give me another one then we have one left okay so they come back all right we get it put on i get the t connector put on and just as i'm putting it on there because the right side beside i barely bumped the other one it snapped off their plastic there's no reason why they can't make them aluminum anyway that snapped off so they had to go get another one so i can put that on so we get it all together started up what i'm leaking mother fuck you know which wasn't a big deal i got that fixed first thing this morning but so i get the look and i'm you know just something didn't look like look right on one of the plug wires because it's only got it's only got a 10 inch wire it's got eight coil packs it goes from the coil coil pack right eight inches below right down to the to the spark plug and just one of them just doesn't look right to me now i reached down touched it and someone had cut it off and just kind of stuck it back to where it looked like it was on three of them on the same now i've seen one break off before i've seen that a hundred times he gets to them they get bread on a break i've seen two usually it's one on each side i've seen that a couple times i've never seen three right straight in a row would be what um it'd be three five and seven okay cylinders three five and seven right in row three of them were broke off everyone i touched wasn't even really attached they were just sticking there that pissed me off someone done that on purpose to her so anyway uh monkey and i bought her you know get a little tight on money so and uh she's wanting to go go away tomorrow she's wanting to go to virginia so i don't know if she's going to be able to do that or not so we got the plugs and wires for you know because i went ahead and put new spark plugs in it and needed it so anyway we finally got it going and and that was pretty much it in a nutshell so but yeah leaning over that truck man right here right my rib cage you know leaning over the engine and stuff source hell so anyway we got that one but so i was very tired last night so and then the day i got that one the new ring doorbell came in today i installed it it's working perfectly and so you know it's gonna be kind of of kind of been a busy weekend so again i'm sorry for that but we'll get back on track i promise you so shea bear the myth man the legend enjoy your sunday and hope everyone's being safe and doing well so again thanks for watching guys appreciate it and we'll see you soon thanks for hanging out bye bye guys and take care