 Hi everyone thanks for joining me on Friday afternoon and hopefully kind of the end of term is near or has happened for you. I've got one more week and then I'm going to be thinking a lot about reflection myself. So this workshop kind of just came about after having a conversation with Chloe because I had the pleasure of being on the podcast and then we chatted quite a lot and this is one of the many hats that I wear. So I work in FE, I teach art in FE but I've also recently been looking at different ways of using the creative arts kind of just for general benefits really to life and one of those that I found is for reflection. So today we're going to look at collage with kind of a digital edge to it just given kind of the context that we're in with amplifier FE. However you know all of the things I'm going to chat about if you're someone that prefers to work with physical things like paper and I don't know feathers and all thoughts or things like that. You can apply all the things I want to talk about really with physical objects as well and sometimes if you've been staring at your screen or day you might want to step away and do something that is more real life but given that we're all online you have access to this digital option as well and also it comes with the added benefit that not everyone is like me and keeps everything that they ever come across so collage can be quite difficult if you don't have lots of things to make a collage out of whereas when you're online you have obviously access to like an infinite amount of things really. If anyone has any questions as you go along pop them in the chat and I'll get to them hopefully what I'll say will make sense but you never know on a Friday afternoon I may have used all of my sentence up by now. So collage what is it and what we're going to use it for today so I've said as a reflective tool and really it's just a different way of depicting kind of information thoughts and feelings so some people journal by collage and sometimes it's difficult to articulate things I think in language so if you can do images or signs or symbols or colors that's the kind of thing that collage can let you do but it can be a starting point as well so things are always transferable aren't they so you may have students that collage might work really well with if they are struggling to communicate something with you or likewise you may have you know if you have a meeting with a line manager or something and you can't quite get down on paper what it is you're trying to say take a collage along with you use it as a starting point so these are just kind of uses that I've seen kind of used with students and learners and staff since I've been delivering these sessions so it's nice to see them have a wide kind of variety of you know applying applications beyond trying to the realm of creating collage for art and you may create them and never show them to anyone either and that's perfectly fine as well because they should be for you and used however they're going to be most beneficial for you so things that we can consider when we're thinking about collage symbolism so you know if there's something that represents something to you so think about light bulb image for example if you had a good idea metaphor as well often we talk in the metaphor quite a lot but you could obviously represent that visually so if you were trying to think of a metaphor now when you say you could so hungry you could eat a horse for example you could turn that into a collage somehow scale I've tried to represent some of these here which is icons from Microsoft office so I've got my scale image there where I've got the person looking quite tiny and then next to a big computer um because that's definitely how I felt in lockdown the technology was taking over and was massive and the people on the screen were massive as well and I felt a bit small so you can think about scaling that way um color like I say you know you might just have a favorite color or you might want to think about really basic elements of color theory so often you know red anger or love depending on what it is that it's depicting or means something different um but quite a fun thing to play with and again with these icons that I got from Microsoft office you can very easily change the color of them as well I'm going to talk about other places that you can get digital images from um too so you might be um a pc user you might be an Apple user and what you have access to may vary slightly depending on what it is that you use I use Microsoft office constantly um to the point where I feel like I should probably be sponsored by them um as I'm sure we all feel sometimes so as long as you kind of have access to something like PowerPoint or similar that's kind of the application that I will suggest that you would do a digital collage on PowerPoint is great for images um if anyone's ever tried to put an image in a word document you probably know that um you try to insert a picture and everything moves about 15 pages um so PowerPoint is definitely much more user friendly or you could go really I feel old school and say paint I'm not even sure if that's still on laptops I had to install it onto my laptop and I brought it but I needed MS paint in my life um so framing as well so what's included and what's not included can be really powerful um I'd done a session like this with people that were nurses and they were looking at person-centered um care or patient-centered care and they were creating collages that didn't include the patient um so that was quite an interesting reflective tool for them to use because we're going but what's missing why is it missing how can we get the patient back into your collage um composition to think about what's perhaps most important or most pressing for you which might be really big and really at the front and things that are perhaps lesser stresses or worries um are in the background um and then we're trying to get a fancy language here vectors and focus and placement so I always say children's books are really good examples of this so it's how you want the eye to move around the page essentially so you might have a bit of text in the top left hand corner and then you might have a bit of text in the middle of the page and then you might have a bit of text in the bottom left hand corner and it kind of helps with the storytelling um so yeah text if it's in a book but within a collage it might not text it might just be how you're arranging things and that can be quite a nice way to depict kind of a journey that you're going on as well but these are just kind of suggestions you can ignore them all and you can just go for it that's a good thing about collage is um there is kind of art theory and things behind it but really collage is about playing I think and particularly when you're reflecting you might find that they change quite a lot as your thinking changes as you work through that process so digital collage so where can you get images from so if you might have your own digital images you might want to include perhaps your own photographs um stock images as well so again if you're working on PowerPoint if you go insert image it will offer you I think four options of how to upload images one of them is from your computer I think one of them is stock images one of them is from the internet and maybe there's only three options but there's lots of options there and that's built into PowerPoint shapes as well so you might want to insert a star you might feel like you've done really great this term and that you deserve a gold star or two um so you can use those you know you don't have to be fancy here um again icons as I've mentioned and as I've kind of put on my example slides you can search key terms in there and it'll show you the different icons that Microsoft have decided to represent that thing that you're looking for and you can change the color and the shape and the size um and I just changed the outline color but you can change the block color as well and you can start layering them up so you can get quite interesting complex images there as well and then you've got websites that have royalty free images so if you're planning on sharing your collages widely or trying to I don't know monetize them in some way making sure that you're using royalty free images obviously if you're using the collages for your own personal use and you're not going to share them then that doesn't matter as much as long as it's personal use um you can pretty much go wild with the images um and you may you know often when we're collaging with magazines and new newspapers and things you're changing them so drastically that by the end you might not even notice what the original image was um so then I've just got some kind of basic instructions really so I've said open a document PowerPoint word or similar um as I've said I wouldn't particularly advocate word but if you're someone that loves word go for it um and if you're on an apple product do you think you might have pages or something similar I'm not an apple person so I don't know what goes on in that world um and then inserting your images from a range of sources arrange and layer them and then play with kind of color as well and size and scale so I've just got a couple of examples so my first example is a digital collage um and I've tried to give some context to what they were doing as well so this was from a criminology course that I went to visit and we done collage to try and communicate a theme so this was completely digital you know they inserted a picture of the world um lots of people and then little symbols that they thought represented the theme that they were trying to talk about and then they used that as a prompt really to talk about their topic further so in a way simplistic but also you know they've used a picture from the internet they've used layering they've used size and scale um so it becomes more complex the more you kind of dig into it um and then I've got I think two more examples and these are physical collages but could be recreated easily digitally um so this was someone it's a collage of personal development well-being and resilience so they were thinking about their journey so they kind of put numbers in to represent their age and this red piece of string to kind of document their timeline and then different images and things that they found that they felt were important at that point in their life and where they wanted to end up at the end as well um and this is one of my favorites it's very playful nothing was stuck down and it doesn't exist anymore but it was a trainee teacher and they were trying to visualize their journey so they were trying to recreate like an obstacle course so they've got paper clips that were kind of like barbed wire um and a hoop to jump through and all of this going on but then a lovely sunset in the background so lots and lots going on there um so we thought seems that of you know the time of the year that it is that we would think about reflection um so you might want to reflect on the year that's just gone or perhaps you want to reflect on the year that is going to be coming up very soon because the summer always flies by um but it's always you know if you think something digital it's different in a way to the physical collages because you can kind of just flip through magazines and stuff and see if something grabs your eye but with the digital collage you might need a little bit more direction so start thinking about keywords so if you're reflecting and you're thinking oh I had a really uh I don't know difficult I was moving classrooms every five minutes perhaps you want to look at different classrooms that could represent that in images or how you would represent moving around a lot um and how that made you feel like maybe you liked moving around a lot maybe it was um every stressful part of your day to be in a different classroom every you know for every session so you might want to focus on something really specific like that what might be the year as a whole thinking where did you start this year at and how did you end the year um so a bit like that timeline journey example that I shared with you and again I said consider colors that you want to include perhaps there's a color that is overriding in your life might be the color of your the logo of the place you work for example or the color of your classroom wall or the color of your car or something that is really present to you it might really stick out to you and then it's just really playing with these inserting them moving them around cropping them and things like that um I've said remember collage can be abstract as well so you don't have to you know represent something if you're thinking about I don't know your commute you don't have to include a train and a car and a bus and things like that you could think about more the feelings and what those feelings look like um so that's probably the end of me rabbiting on about collage and digital collage hopefully under that overview has been useful for people but what we really wanted to do in this session was give you kind of time to do that reflecting um in you know a supportive environment so you can stick around and if you have any questions or want to ask anything about the process or want to share their outcome more than welcome to do that um so Chloe I imagine that's probably good to stop the recording fantastic half done oh brilliant okay I'm definitely a powerpoint person too you know when I was in uni I used like the whole Adobe creative suite but I started using powerpoint um when I was working in community learning because it's just something I could then promote to other practitioners to use because the word drove me up the wall but I know it works for some people and some people are friends with or I'm just not friends with word for anything remotely designed so I love powerpoint um am I able to see on my screen because then I could perhaps share the process yeah okay yeah share application screen so if you go to the share the bottom and share it's great and then you can do that weird avoid text thing I think can you see my powerpoint yes yes sometimes you do that and you can just see yourself like an infinite number of times yeah yeah we can see you um so yeah like I've still got one more week left so I don't know I'm it's difficult sometimes to reflect beyond how you feel in the moment and at the moment I am exhausted so it's an interesting one but on the whole yeah I think I've had quite a positive year so I might try and reflect on that also I think it's very easy I think when we're reflecting and looking back the negative things often jump out a little bit more so trying to have a bit of more of a holistic and go okay maybe I had one bad day that week but the rest of the week was fine I like these icons as well that I just like you know they're built in aren't they so you don't need to go too far for looking for stuff um it's quite easy to have that and then maybe in a few moments you go I don't want that and it's easy for you to get something else in quite quickly you know it doesn't have to be laboring to find one perfect image it can be something quite quick and they do have quite a lot of options in the icons so I don't know if you saw when I typed sun in you've got a variety of suns and then also other things that relate to suns so it's useful in that sense um let's see the art one that always made me laugh because um I don't know if anyone here knows me or not but I'm a text artist so I work with text and language um but often this is how we are depicted as artists with our little berets on and paint palettes um but yeah I've got you've got to embrace it that's the thing about icons is they're quite um to the point I don't know I could probably edit this and change that paint palette into a box of letters that would be interesting um I guess I can't just look at the base they're they basically get an idea across don't they um I did um a course with well both Emily Bison and Emery Leary who both do um the big in graphic facilitation worlds um Emery in graphic facilitation Emily in what ESOL she's been using graphic facilitation ESOL um and EAL um worlds and they both talk about how you just have to you know so it's about yeah it's about drawing but so basically you doesn't have to be like fancy pants you know it is just something nice and quick literally just like a few lines a square a triangle a circle like if you can do basic shapes you can design your own icon it's just it's communicated as long as the person looking at it can understand what you're trying to get across so that picture of an artist could just be you know a circle and then a semicircle and then a silly floppy shape for the palette do you know I mean and a few little colors and people would understand what it meant but I also it also resonated me about um that being the general depict you know picture of an artist um yeah I um wonder what their icon for teacher is let's see well this one I typed school in for this one um because I didn't think adult community learning would come up I don't know if they're that specific but it's quite interesting um because we always you know kind of talk about was it the sage on the stage um it would probably move walk move past that a little bit but that is um how they are depicting it here which is interesting um but hopefully it's quite a playful process I think anything which is kind of reflection is if you can take you away from the moment you know just five ten minutes and you can you might create something useful for yourself or you might just you know chill out for a little bit um which I'm always a fan of if I can chill out oh yeah definitely sometimes reflection can be actually be like a really it can be arduous and it can be um like quite emotive and emotional and I think you know so having to write it all down can sometimes be like quite that's what how it can become quite arduous task whereas being able to just this is I don't know just makes it a bit more playful yeah I mean I do so much writing for my studying and you know sometimes I feel like I've run out of words so I don't I can't keep a journal or diary or anything like that because I finish the day and I'm just a bit like well I don't have anything else left to say but I can mess around with some shapes and some pictures um it's the sort of thing that makes me happy so hopefully um we'll make other people happy too I've got very simple aims in life they are mostly related to happiness and I can't actually see the chat or the platform when I'm sharing my screen so do let me know if anything is happening I will do I've just pop something into chat for everybody if they've got any questions not just to shout them out you can unmute yourself folks yeah we're not recording now so feel free to we have that discussion didn't we like I always think um so we usually do webinars that I like half an hour but we wanted this to be a workshop time and space so that you could ask those questions or just have a play um if you've got a question about using PowerPoint so if you're using PowerPoint right now and you're like how do I get those icons up then just unmute yourself and ask the question or if your microphone's not working I think um is it Miranda said microphone issues you can always pop into chat um and I will say it out loud to our base if there's any questions what's that blue what's the blue triangle for well I'm thinking about identity constantly and I guess at the moment I think I have three identities a bit of a triangle going on um but I'm actually literally handing in my PhD on Monday so then I don't know what shape I would be anymore oh gosh I don't know what shape I'll be people keep going oh you do like I'm just going to hand it in and see what happens solid life clap oh well I feel like I've got lots to do um my to-do list isn't any shorter well I really appreciate you coming to to do this oh no and it's not the thing I need it I need the art have a little bit of time I should say before PhD it's all you know it's all I know you haven't just been using words who PhD right but you know writing everything on it's that's you know can be a bit of a yeah I mean it is a lot of words and then my art practice is words so I feel like my well-being needs to be something that isn't isn't right um but yeah you said something before that really resonated when you said about um it's Friday so I might have run out of sense and I was like yes I'm completely resonating with me yeah I said that to my learners when we got into July I was like I'm going to make less and less sense as the month goes on they were fine with it they were like okay but it is one of those things isn't it it's um you're on you know you're on it aren't you constantly when you're with other people you have and you have to kind of consciously make sure that you make some kind of coherent sense um but often when I'm teaching as well you know I will tell them we'll go through the slides shows and we'll talk about what we're doing so it is often well it's always art related because I'm teaching them art um and they can look at and then I will show them an example and they'll go oh yeah I know what you mean now so it's finding the right way to communicate I think um and sometimes that isn't with text and language it's with visuals um which is quite interesting I guess the usefulness of that differs depending on what it is that you're interested in or subjects that you're looking at um Emma's just put um from what we were just discussing about she's put me too it's so nice to stop and do this for a little little bit I'm so glad I signed up now oh brilliant thank you um I don't know if there if people are comfortable with sharing I'm nosy that's why I got into teaching art particularly because I get to looking people sketchbooks um but I don't know if we can meet use of the hashtag or share them in some other way um if people are comfortable doing that I'll pop this on Twitter from the world to see but sometimes yeah definitely or LinkedIn just use the hashtag and um if you want if you want to share there's no like you know it's oh yeah no whenever I do workshops I always say to people oh you know don't bother don't worry about sharing them like the ones I've done in person as well and then the last one I done it was about reflecting on your identity like who you are as a like a researcher so I said at the start I was like no need to share their personal you know I'll wander around and have a chat but at the end of the session there's like no 30 of them and everyone wanted to get up and share because I think it's quite empowering for them um so that was really nice because actually um at the start of these things people sometimes are a bit like are you sure this is going to work as a as a tool you know as a reflective tool and like yeah just trust in the process and it all will become that's it and you've got something that you can kind of like um anchor anchor your thoughts and anchor your like verbal reflections um focus so much on having reflection written down okay now I've got your screen I only have one screen but it's a long one so um I've got your PowerPoint my PowerPoint and chat open oh my gosh I have a little play as well I'm like getting jealous so I'm gonna have a bash because I I'm in in my I'm in a Mac on a Mac so I'm a little bit um oh yeah but it also because I'm mine on dark mode as well so it always looks completely different to what other people have it in um so do you have PowerPoint on your Mac yes yes I do um because I do actually really like using it and also because when I recommend it to people I like to be able to recommend something that people can actually use which is why I don't use I used InDesign when I was at uni um and Premiere etc but they quickly went from CS4 you know like the creative suite so you could buy and individually to their subscription model which a lot of people really afford it's not accessible so when I was making worksheets and making designs and stuff and sharing and resources and sharing them with teachers um I wanted to use a software that others could use and access quite easily so that's why I started using PowerPoint I don't even use publisher because not everyone can access publisher um I can't have a Mac so I can't even access it anyway um but it's interesting to see what I can what I can access on an Apple Mac because not we don't get everything from my machine they give us like 70% PowerPoint but um you know you can still do quite a lot on it it just looks a little bit different yeah the thing that we use where I work as well for our learners is they have access to Microsoft online and again that same so it's limited functionality but it means that they can log on and access it because otherwise I mean some of our learners are with us for five weeks you know you can't expect people to be going out and buying Microsoft Office yeah it's expensive um really in the grand you know for what it is I think because I think we should just all have you know have access to these tools um but it seems like every time I buy laptop there's less and less on it and you have to buy everything individually um but yeah so for our learners they've been able to get them office online um which means you can you can create things like this on office online but you might just have less to choose from um but if you use the images from the internet you still have everything that's on the internet yeah which is a lot well right Emma um has um the joy of Microsoft I have saved in one drive and you might be able to see it you can access this um later if you're unhappy or you can have a little play with it now I've just gone and clicked on it um and I can see Emma's um notes and what she's working on right now so yeah and I love this let me feel like I'm working on how to do that we can go into chat and Emma has shared a link to her um oh yeah amazing I can never actually access people's stuff at SharePoint but that was nice and easy peasy thank you very much Emma I love you thank you for sharing I love that picture I didn't I want to know whether you talked that picture Emma or you found it yeah I love the little running figure yeah this is where the arty bit comes in because then um like you Chloe I have to have like a million questions I'm like is it the same person running in all these different directions or is it one person hierarchy thing or is someone like you know is it a journey is it oh you have so many questions but hopefully as well if you do do a collage like this for reflection and perhaps like as a reflection with someone else they might be questions that you've not asked yourself so someone goes oh you know that's an interesting choice perhaps subconsciously you are thinking about hierarchy but you weren't thinking about it when you made it um yeah that's really interesting like you've not got that cognitive like cognitively that wasn't there like explicitly for you but maybe subconsciously it was kind of like eking out in the visuals I do think creative things and I'm confident in saying it's scientifically proven news is a different part of your brain I'm pretty sure that's a fact um if you say things confidently enough um but yeah I think it must you know because you're all working and thinking in a different way so you may unlock things that you weren't particularly aware of um before which is again one of the things I like about it I really think I do in conversation as well I'd be sorry at the winter yeah I mean there's no reason it has to be a solitary activity you can bring as many people in as you want really um you know and it's nice I guess if you had something like a shared power point on a one drive you could everyone could have their own slides but you'd be able to see everyone working in real time so you'd be able to see other people's processes like and um there used to be this thing um why you could I mean it probably still is but I can't think of what it's called you can capture the making process so you can record your screen while you were making for example and then you would see the whole process you could play the whole process um which is quite interesting because then it goes back to one of those points that I was saying about what's included and what's not included because I might start with something um and then it might not make it into the final thing so I could get rid of that and then it changes it completely but it was there you know it was part of the collages history it was there at some point but it was quite um large so well um I just realised I was looking I think at an old version I just refreshed the page of what Emma was working on and she's since added a few little bits and changed a few bits and bobs and she's explained in chat the trees are stocking which but she blurred it a little bit yeah the person is me running around the different branches of my job oh I like that that's very good yes we talked about kind of metaphor and symbolism yeah very very nice I look really really like that metaphor of the different branches of your job but also running around if you've got so many things to do as well and having that working person the icons on the outside of my big projects and achievements that's a bit I didn't see so I had to refresh it we've got a little robot and um a computer and a cloud fantastic oh my gosh what's going on here that's made my thing as well because when you said about the different branches the thing I always say to people is that I have different hats yeah I always talk about my hat with my amphiphia fee hat on I'm currently in a web because I always say to people I was like sometimes I think it would be easier if I had actual hats and then I would know who I was supposed to be make it a little bit yeah yeah exactly I guess we've got one here one instead of hats but I like hat things and icons in Microsoft they look really cool actually to different hats yeah I mean some of them are a bit literal I'm not sure about the chef hat but I do cook dinner so I don't know if that counts ironically I wanted to be a chef when I was younger and then I developed quite a lot of food allergies oh no probably not the career for me if I can't eat anything oh gosh that tastes like everything so you wouldn't be able to taste it because at first I was quite pumped off because I don't like seafood and then I couldn't eat gluten and I was just like oh there's you know I'm gonna have to work in a very specific kind of restaurant yeah and now here I am I'm an artist and I'm a teacher and I'm a research I'm not a chef but yeah maybe one day that's the other thing there isn't it is um we can all kind of continue to change and develop and you think about how many different careers people have these days yeah exactly and was popped I'm thinking there about my role which I've heard about I mean we heard about that have you heard of my role before Abby I think I've seen one yeah I can't say I got the hang of it because I was I think I was trying to create diagrams I might be thinking of a different thing but I think it was like an online white board thing and I was trying to create a diagram system on it um and if I can't work something out within five minutes I'm normally a bit like oh not for me it really depends how you use my because when I've been in big groups it's I find it really overwhelming and I find it quite stressful but that's big groups but if it's just a few of you I find like it can be quite nice um it's expansive and you know never ending so it um it you can't you can all be working on different things and then kind of like come together I'll go and like gag in on what someone else is working on which I think um but I like using Jamboard um for so many different things and I use Jamboard for like Jamboard before Jamboard's what I'm a bit similar to what I just described so my role for is what I do use Jamboard for is that like every person would have a different Jamboard slide um so you can kind of gag in on what someone else is doing I've used it as like you know in classes before but I've also used it for my lesson prep because it's just like Jamboard is just like a big piece of paper flip chart paper with like yeah digital flip chart paper with digital post-it notes and it's really really simplified but that's why I like using it in class because you know it's literally there's pen there's six shapes to choose from six colors see you know you've got your paint in there six colors to choose not the toxic green though and um you know so it's really really simplified version of PowerPoint effectively um but it's quite nice it's tactile because you can just move all the different things around yeah so have a little bash at that and I would say also have a little it can be quite cool but I think when you it's how you use it um I think people use them in presentations where they're kind of I guess almost they've moved beyond being the working project and they always look so impressive um but yeah like I say I um I did give up quite easily I think it was one of the ones in lockdown when people were going try this try this try this and I was going there so much to try oh well isn't it I'm finding what worked for you that's why I went on to every I you know Jamboard works for me and I quite like it um so I yeah cool okay I think I'm happy with my collage nice I'm gonna go back and refresh and see whether she's out there just any more bits and bobs to it oh we've got more icons on the sides oh nice okay the other thing I like about PowerPoint is that you can obviously save the slides as PDFs and also jpegs and well all these other options which is quite useful the jpeg thing is particularly useful I find yeah that's quite nice and then like if you if you made one all the way through the year like every month or took like half an hour out of your time at the end of the week and then it becomes like a um end of week mind dump yeah you know yeah actually it could be very useful in about a rubbish week um to reflect on what you were saying before about how like you know sometimes we focus so much on the negative things and actually to be like you know this good thing happened actually and it's it can be quite therapeutic and it's a bit of mindfulness really as well to have that half an hour to just do a dump mind dump and then um if you save them all then you'd have like at the end of the year you'd have like in years worth of um all these different like reflections to look back on to say when they're all visual and you might have absolutely no idea why you put that blue triangle on in September or you know whatever or that jar of peanut butter I don't know no idea why you did it but it kind of in a way doesn't matter because it's about that reflection at that moment in time I guess and your thoughts and you might perceive that peanut I don't know why I've gone to I don't even like peanut butter but um but you might reflect on that jar in a different way um six months later than you did in October yeah absolutely and again you know if you're doing something like PowerPoint you can save them the jpegs but you could just have a PowerPoint each week or each month and then you'd have them all in one place um keep them keep them safe and together and yeah so hopefully it's introduced people to kind of a different way of working through reflection and yeah that's that's my hope that was the aim um I'll ask out loud what's your um Emma and Miranda what do you think and how do you think you would use it I know some of you don't have access to microphone right now so I'll give you a few minutes to type something into chat if you want to but um how do you think you'll take it forward I think it's important to carve that time out so even though I just said like a week I don't know whether I'd get stressed at doing it every week but actually I feel like we need to be kind to ourselves and give ourselves that time to play and reflect I think it's important otherwise we just rush straight into the next week yeah yeah I think and it doesn't have to take you know masses of time you know you can do things relatively quickly oh lovely thank you yeah I mean I think like we've been really bigging up PowerPoint this afternoon it's good it's so easy and it's so simple and it's kind of tactile isn't it like and it's something that people don't think of when they think of PowerPoint because I have this major issue and people say oh death by PowerPoint and I just think PowerPoint is actually a really it's a powerful tool and for many obviously it can be used you know I don't want to say badly but you did those people where it's almost you know so much text it should be a word document and they sit there so you have lots of experiences like that then if you use it in a completely different way it becomes almost a completely different tool exactly I think that's it yeah exactly it becomes a different tool instead of just seeing it as a presentation tool seeing it in a different light yeah because that's the thing as well if you think about PowerPoint I think you are often thinking about presentations that are going to be disseminated you know shared with groups of people but actually the way we're using them today is very much personal use isn't it um but lovely comments just come through in the chat about using it with send students as well and yeah getting people to use things that are more visual but also you're then introducing them to Microsoft Office and IT becomes a massive thing that people are looking for isn't it kind of like every level of job now you're expected to have a basic understanding of ICT and it's a bit like a nicer way of introducing it I think so even with any learners I think they're maybe a bit nervous sort of Microsoft Office I always say start with PowerPoint um before Word because it's so much more user friendly um and then you know once they're putting images and stuff together I mean I was a massive geek as a child but I used to make like PowerPoints when I was little for fun you know because it was so I could put you know you can put video clips in there you can put sound in you can make really cool transactions and animation and stuff and you can make your things go you know up and down and all around so it used to be hours of fun but not everyone was born with that innate love of PowerPoint that I seem to have had but yeah if you can get people to do fun things with it first then you can get them you know gradually throughout the year introduce it in a different way um yeah so brilliant yeah um feedback is always really useful as well so if people do go on and use this with other people I am all over the internet I'm on Twitter let me know let me know how it goes because it's interesting to see how it works with different groups of people but it's like as I have done this with criminology students PhD students teacher training basically there's no they haven't really found a boundary for it yet I think it's useful for most people um because I think reflection can only be a good thing um yeah I think someone mentioned well-being earlier and I think the two are linked quite strongly aren't they if you're not reflecting on what's happening it's difficult to take care of your own well-being if you're not sure kind of where your heads at in the first instance um but yeah we're coming up towards the end that was a very quick hour I must say um yes well huge thank you for coming and doing this and doing this like at the end of the academic nearly the end of the academic year for yourself but also three days before you've got to hand your time out for us and yeah no it's useful but I think that's the thing you need to put it in a calendar sometimes don't you people have like writing rooms perhaps we need a digital collage room on zoom people can get together and do digital collage it's that accountability I think make sure you do it yeah I totally totally agree because otherwise like there's so many things that I go like oh you know in in theory I do this but actually and I find that with the reading circle that I run it's that it's like accountability actually um so I don't know well we'll hold that thought won't we keep that idea kind of like growing but we'll play something quite profound then they'd be like okay there's six minutes left bye there's not time to end this digital collage sessions okay um yeah who knows it could become a thing let's start a trend yeah whether it will see whether it catches on okay right well you had to finish it and we'll discuss that a little bit later we'll discuss it after we've had a rest a well-earned rest um but if anyone does have anything that they want to pop into chat to say to Abby or please unmute um if you want to say anything um because we're gonna finish up in just a few moments so um yeah I'm gonna um um download and post my collage to Twitter so everyone can see it and wonder what on earth we've been doing yes what is this like reflecting digital collage what is it yeah just a refreshed embers again and I love it yeah well that's the other cool thing about um digital and online things isn't it you can't just look over Emma's shoulder but you can kind of look over it virtually oh I can see that you you tweeted 56 minutes ago right to say we are I'm gonna tweet again 56 minutes later send it into the world we shall see it's wild okay I'm quite pleased with um my outcome uh I quite like it I like that you chose purple that's my favorite color I like it oh no yeah it's a color that come up in my research someone said that artists are purple so I kind of ran with it oh that's really interesting purple well they said that teachers were blue and artists were I don't know that was what it was teachers are blue artists are red and artists teachers are purple oh that's really interesting you know and give me this little tidbit of Liverpool our Liverpool bins and the Liverpool color is purple um LFC Liverpool football club that color is red Everton which is our other football club is blue oh there we go a little bit of a bit of color mixing I like to put a theory on there they're Friday afternoon and I'd like to distribute from Liverpool if that should ever come up on a pub quiz for anyone yeah um why is the city of Liverpool's um color purple well now you know brilliant well it's one minute to three everybody thank you so so much I mean and um thank you everyone for popping their thoughts into chat and thank you Emma for sharing um yours as you've been creating it that's been really really lovely to be able to drop in there as you've been like coming up with ideas and changing things around um as Abbie said please do um share what you've been up to if you want to um share with us like you don't have to do it like um publicly you couldn't find Abbie or your amplifying fee on any of the social media spaces and messages if you want to as well um but um yeah I hope you um keep hope you think about it keep doing it and to share with us um how you use it if you use it in future whether you use it for yourselves with your colleagues or with your learners and um have a fantastic summer as well whatever you're doing okay yeah thanks everybody hi hi I love those hats I'm just having a little look at everything me and my hat yeah brilliant um yeah let me know when it is up and I will share wisely with everyone everyone it's not um it's not me that sorts it out it is um Emily one of the old team um that will um up you know she's got all the access to basically booking systems and the old website and the youtube etc so she that's why like I tell you like how many people are booked on until like 10 minutes before um so yeah um that's also why it's easier for you to just book on when you do a webinar as a presenter for you to just book on so you've got the link so I know you've got a link rather than like because no one could be here today to co-pilot um yesterday when I had no voice whatsoever I did ask if someone come in and just do that bit at the beginning but um and with people not really talking much I was like I'm just going to keep talking even though I've got a horrible throat or you can you can stop talking now you can um go back to I don't know interpretive dance or something yeah so so cool and I just love that you know it was really it was really lovely that Emma put hers in and put it she felt like a lot of people to have a little look and she's commenting in chat um it's always different online isn't it because when they do it in person even if like people are like oh can you pass me that you know so they interact on some level just for practical reasons um yeah no hopefully it sounded like the one people that came sound like they got benefit out of it so hopefully people that watch it back will as well um but yeah I'm gonna go make up a tea now and just stare at my PhD it's pretty much done this is the problem this is why I need to just hand it in because it's pretty much done I just keep looking at it and moving things slightly and moving them back and then moving them so I need to um get rid of it and stop stop moving things up and down oh but no it was nice actually nice break to do something a bit different oh wow I will um go and go and get it done and then relax afterwards so what's important do you know what I mean just go and go and crack off well it's the thing isn't it it's like you're pretty much done most of the work now so just need to submit it and then it's very um kind of anti is it what's the word yeah yeah isn't it yeah I spent three years working on something and then it's just like oh here it is here you go well you don't just kind of leave your beaver as well haven't you and not until like the end of September so it feels oh it doesn't look finished so it's yeah um but yeah I might feel different ones have handed it in on Monday and like and going to scream into a pillow or something and be like it's done it's over well lovely to see you and um I hope you feel better soon I'm sure I will okay yeah do I need some posts to leave um you can actually just close that tab and you will leave if you want to do any future things that you're in there's like a little burger menu on the top left hand side oh yeah yeah okay cool well I will leave see you bye see you bye