 Okay, I'd like to welcome everyone. It's seven o'clock, so we'll get going. Thank you for coming. See, Kyle came, his mother was texting me, oh, Kyle's coming, and brought us this moment as your miracle book. Beautiful. It's so beautiful to be here. We did a gathering last night at a Center for Spiritual Living, and so this is two in a row, and just to welcome you all in, Svava's going to sing one of her beautiful songs. And this one you're going to sing is I Found You? Yes. Okay, she's going to open it up with I Found You. Just so grateful to be here, and thank you all for coming. You might have to speak loud in it. Can you hear me? Okay, it's going to be Laura when I sing. Well, maybe we move this a little bit. Yeah. Ready to start. All of these songs have come through Svava with her prayers and devotion, and she went on YouTube, taught herself how to play guitar. She had some keyboard skills from when she was a little girl, and they came back for her to make her songs. So thank her. We're such a gift for everyone. So precious you can feel the love. Well, welcome everyone. We're going to have a beautiful evening tonight, just diving, diving deep into the present moment. And here we are at Center for Spiritual Living, and the tradition of science of mind is very strong. And some of you have heard of science of mind, or Christian science, Course in Miracles. There's a lot of teachings that talk about the power of the mind. And there's also a lot of spiritualities that kind of dismiss the mind, or kind of bypass it a bit, and what someone's wanting to come in. There we go. Welcome. Come on in. And basically, in A Course in Miracles, Jesus says that the mind is the activating agent of spirit. So let's say that in truth we're spirit, we're eternal spirit. But Jesus calls the mind the activating agent of spirit. In other words, it's something where the Holy Spirit resides. It's where our comforter lives. It's where our communication device lives, that reaches us in words while we still believe in words. Reaches us in symbols while we still believe in symbols. And that's why in the Bible, Jesus said, I will send a comforter. So this presence is so, so, so important. And there's one point where Jesus says, you are mind, holy mind, and purely mind. And what he's basically saying is that to believe in linear time and to believe in space, which Einstein even agrees with Jesus, that time and space are the same illusion. They're very relative. There's nothing absolute about time. If you study science and you go into Einstein's work, you see that time is not an absolute. They've even had where they take atomic clocks and they have one on the ground and they set two atomic clocks identically and they fly one around the world in a supersonic plane and then they land it and they put the clocks together and guess what? They're not saying the same thing. Even modern-day science and physics is showing us what Einstein said that time and space are relative. And of course, time and space are perceptual. But the realm of heaven or the realm of God or the realm of spirit is prior to time. The present moment is not in between the past and the future. That was a trick. The ego made up the concepts of past, present, and future to delude the mind into an identity that's very fleshy and it's very limited and it seems to be lacking all the time and it needs lots of care. And we can say, are you talking about babies? No, I'm talking about all human beings. There's so much care and attention that's put on the body. Today I was coming here and I was reminded that the workbook lesson and Rev Bev gave me an original hardbound workbook here and it was 236 and basically the lesson of the day is that I rule my mind. I rule my mind which I alone must rule. And basically it's saying, I have a kingdom that I must rule. At times it does not seem I am, it's king at all. It seems to triumph over me and tell me what to feel, what to say. Basically this whole world is a mesmerism of false cause and effect where it seems like the conditions of the world, tsunamis, hurricanes, droughts, famine, COVID, you know, pandemic and everything. It seems like the world is the determiner of our state of mind. When you ask somebody, are you having a good day? If they're having a good day, they probably will tell you what the things that are happening that are determining that good day. So I got a call from my daughter, I haven't heard from her for years and this and this came and a check came in the mail and so forth. And then if they're having a bad day, they'll tell you the things that are happening that are part of their bad day. So a bad day is like a judgment. I'm having a bad day and here's the reasons why. What we learned from Ernest Holmes, we learned it from Mary Baker Eddy, we learned it from Jesus in A Course in Miracles is that the mind is causative and the world is a world of false effects. So if your mind is so powerful and you take that amazing God-given mind and you believe in the ego, which is the belief of separation from source, somehow there was a fall from grace or somehow we wandered off and got caught in a detour of time and we forgot bliss. We forgot eternal life. We forgot eternal happiness and joy. And what the journey is, is a journey to the present moment. But again, the present moment is not between the past and the future. The present moment is before time was. That's why Jesus said, before Abraham was, I am. He was teaching this 2,000 years ago. He was teaching that the presence of God is prior to time. He says in A Course in Miracles, you think time goes forward but time goes backwards to an ancient instant that's long forgotten. He later on calls it the unholy instant, the time of terror in which a tiny mad idea was taken seriously instead of being laughed at. The solution is to laugh. The problem was seriousness, taking error seriously, taking sin seriously, taking time and space seriously. And we can even see with little children, when little children are happy and they're playing, they actually lose track of time and space until mother goes, come on, it's dinner time, come on in. And they come back to time and space, but they're just happy in the moment. So the one thing I could say about the present moment is it's not between the past and the future and the only way you can come into full awareness of it is through guidance. You can call it guidance from the Holy Spirit. You can call it guidance from your higher self. You can call it your intuition if you want. Maybe you don't like religious terms, so just say, oh, I have an intuitive self that's prompting me, nudging me, niggling me, telling me, you know, here, go here, go so and so, meet so and so, you know, it's guiding us, that intuitive self. So my journey has been not only a journey that included religion, it included metaphysics, it included science and quantum physics. I'm happy talking about the Wizard of Oz, as I am about quantum mechanics, as I am about talking about theology. And with the Course in Miracles, Jesus comes through so loud and clear, and he says, this is just one form of the universal curriculum. There are many pathways to God. Isn't it refreshing to read a book that tells you that there's many pathways to God? Instead of, this is the only way. We have a great bookstore, Reverend Bev gave me this book here, Course in Miracles, it's coming back into awareness. And what Jesus is basically saying is that everything is connected. In science, it's scared Einstein. He came upon a connectedness that scared him and all of the first quantum physicists, and therefore Einstein called this overriding universal connection of the whole cosmos, spooky action at a distance. Whenever you put spooky in front of it, as you know, the scientist is a little afraid of whatever it is. I don't know what it is, but it's spooky. Because the molecules were being tested at great distances and they were showing that they were connected. There was no separation. In quantum physics, this is called the quantum field. In Course in Miracles, Jesus has a few names for it. He calls it the happy dream. He calls it the real world. He calls it true perception. He's basically saying, when you look upon this world without judgment, you will finally see it as a dream. And you'll be happy because you see it without judgment. Finally, you'll see it from this high perspective in your mind. It's kind of like a needle in the haystack. It's there. You'll find it. Everyone is destined to find the needle in the haystack. It just seems to be a matter of time. But I would say it's more a matter of willingness and desire. If you desire to know the truth, you will come to that experience. Because the mind is that powerful. And what you call forth, giving and receiving are the same. If you desire God above all else, you come into an experience of happiness, of joy and of bliss. And I'm not talking incremental or up and down happiness. I'm talking about consistent happiness and joy. I'm talking about being inspired by the Holy Spirit. Jesus says the Holy Spirit is the spirit of joy. The Holy Spirit's curriculum is a curriculum of joy. The happy lesson of forgiveness is learned through happiness. You don't learn the final lesson through pain. You don't learn it through anguish or suffering. You don't learn it through any type of sacrifice or punishment or penance. Happy lessons are reached through happiness. If you're going to reach eternal life, you have to reach it through the life of the present moment. And to be present is simply to have no concerns whatsoever about the past and no interest, a complete lack of interest in the future. Does that seem radical? On this planet, that's pretty radical. And that's what sometimes people talk about a conversion experience. That's just like igniting this quest to be fully present is really what that conversion experience is. So for me, I would say the last 36 years have been extremely miraculous because I really didn't do anything. That's the best part. You go through experiences for these last 36 years of working with Jesus in the Course and then you have this realization, wow, I didn't do anything and nothing was done to me. And then you start to realize that all things have always been in this pristine state of mind. They've always been there, but they just weren't recognized. And the whole point was to just recognize from this higher perspective. So in quantum physics, we know Newtonian science, you know, okay, Isaac Newton, good try, but he basically used the scientific method to try to draw from experiments data from the world to deduce what must be real. Only problem is the world's a projection. So if you follow the scientific method and you believe the world's linear and it's outside your mind, you will just come up with things like illnesses, diagnosis, struggles, physics. For every action, there's a reaction. You know, it touches every genre, every category. If you go to university, all of the categories are based on Newtonian physics. And then quantum physics, which started around the early 1900s, we've got Mary Baker-Ready coming in there with her Christian science and Ernest Holmes coming in with Science of Mind. Einstein saying time and space are not what we think they are. Everybody's coming together with one harmonious message of saying, we don't know what's going on. We have no clue what we're perceiving. We are so clueless. And yet, while we think we know something, we're blocked from knowing everything because you can't know in part. You can only know the whole. So Einstein helped us out. And I do like to show a lot of movies. I invoke the presence of Einstein. I invoke the presence of Yogananda. I invoke all the mystics and saints, all the scientists, all the great philosophers, which I showed a series one time called The Philosophy of the Matrix. So I took the movie The Matrix and I took all these all-time great classical philosophers that all were telling bits and pieces of what's in the matrix. At the time, the Wachowski brothers, now they're the Wachowski sisters, but they put it all together in a movie that somehow people were touched by. Like, wow, there's something there. I think for a lot of people, that was a modern introduction to the great philosophers of the world because it was acted out so well with Morpheus and Neo. You are the one. You know, the prophecies, the destiny. So quite simply, you have only one purpose and that is to wake up from this dream. It may seem that we have multiple purposes and it's very stressful when you think you have multiple purposes and multiple functions. Jesus makes it very simple and clear for us. He says, you only have one function and that function is forgiveness. And when you accept that function fully, you will realize that your forgiveness, function and your happiness are one. That really, when you were pursuing forgiveness, you were just pursuing happiness. Jesus says you have every right to want to be happy. You have every right to want to be free. You have every right to want to be peaceful. You've just been looking in the wrong place. You've been looking in time and space for the peace of mind. You've been looking in time when I get the promotion, when I get the house, when I get the facelift, when I get my bank account to reach a certain level, when I get a certain amount of possessions, when I have children, when my children graduate finally, when my children graduate and get married, when children graduate, get married and have good career, then I'll be happy. You see, I'll be happy when he's always putting it off into the future. And Jesus is teaching us, much like Einstein was teaching us, that the future is a projection of the past. So, if you think you're caught in a karmic wheel, it's because you believe in the past. And therefore, the future just replicates. It goes on and on playing out the same riddle of, what am I? Who am I? The only question that's meaningful, the first question Jesus says it was ever asked was, what am I? And Christ doesn't ask that question because Christ knows the source of Christ, the Creator. But when the mind falls asleep, it starts off with, what am I? And then the trillions and trillions and trillions and trillions of questions are all just derivations of what am I? Every question, honey, will you bring home some apples when you come home from work? That's an identity question. You know, that's an identity question. Every question that was ever asked is a question of identity. So, you see how the Course is just saying, let's simplify this. Wouldn't you like to experience a state of mind where the questions are all dissolved? Wouldn't that be fun? Wouldn't that be a stress-free life? If you had no questions, your mind was totally still, peaceful, restful, joyful, happy, loving, constantly with no questions, not a single question arising in mind. And all of the questions that human beings experience are coming from the subconscious because the subconscious mind is where everything is stored. It stores the past. It stores every sensation, every nuance. Everything that we seem to experience in time is already part of a prearranged script that's already been answered and is already over and done. So, in A Course in Miracles and Workbook Lesson 158, Jesus says, you know, we are merely reviewing mentally what has already gone by. When you go to a movie, you walk into the theater and you know you're watching something that's already been shot. It's celluloid. We're talking old-time movie theaters now. Stay away from the digital for a moment. But you're watching something. The movie has already been shot. And yet when you watch the movie, your mind engages if it's still happening. You're watching the character and then it's a spence movie and Julia Roberts is walking down the dark corridor and she's starting to open doors and you're like, no, don't do it, Julia. Don't open that door. And the music is going dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. And your heart's going... And you're wondering because you've become engaged in the movie. That's why you spent the $12.50 or whatever it is now to go in there, to be entertained, to be engaged. But you're engaged in something that is just celluloid projected onto a screen. It's just shadows. Like Plato's great cave analogy, you know, the great cave analogy. Just shadows on the wall of the cave. And the prisoners are locked up. And all they see are the shadows, but they can't see the light and they can't see the puppets and the marionettes. So that's a great analogy that even though we perceive a world as if it's solid and concrete, if we are not aware of the shadow thoughts that are producing this, then we really are not even close to escaping from the perceived world. We have to be aware that there's grievances in the subconscious mind. There's attack thoughts. There's hurtful thoughts. And those hurtful thoughts are so intense and stensily painful that they've been pushed out of awareness and they pushed into the subconscious mind. So you might say that your whole journey of spiritual awakening is allowing the unconscious to become conscious so that you can in the end be fully conscious. Isn't that what we all want? We want to be aware. Who wants to know that there's a subconscious mind that's programming and conditioning? Most people feel like, well, here's what my situation. I was born in this place and to these people, to this family, and, oh, wow, I've carried a lot of baggage and conditioning with me. And most people, even if you talk to them every day and you get into something a little deeper and they start to tell you, here's where I'm from and, oh, I'm still trying to escape my conditioning. And that seems to be the human condition, trying to escape the conditioning of the past. But what if that past is subconscious? What if Freud was just discovering something that's always been there? What if Carl Jung found the shadow? What if the shadow's always been there? Even if you look back at other cultures in prehistoric times, you will find that through hieroglyphics and through the writings of the culture, there is talk of the shadow self, of evil, of darkness. It comes in many forms. Joseph Campbell has, if you read and watch enough, Joseph Campbell, you can see all these symbols throughout human history. Crucifixions, resurrections, life, death, the same things play out. And then there's William Shakespeare. To be or not to be, that is the question. To be fully present or not to be fully present, that is the question. To be fully present is the answer to every question that was ever asked. And that's where you can actually come into a state of mind where you realize that you didn't do anything wrong ever and you didn't do anything right ever either because you were not the puppet, you were not the doer. That's where the guilt is gone. That's where the divine innocence shines. When you are convinced, when you have that spiritual experience, wow, I am a perfect child of God right now and I have always been a perfect child of God because God created me perfect. He has spirit. We're not trying to make a Messiah complex for everyone, so you go out the door and go, I am the Holy Son of God. Hear me now. No, you become humble in your true identity because you become hushed. You become hushed in reverence to the Creator. You realize that you either were created by a loving God or you tried to make yourself be something different than that love. And that's what we all must face. Jesus says, well, do you like what you made? And well, people say, some of it I do. I enjoy some of it. And other parts, no. Can I take it back? Oops. Murder, rape, war. Even people who get into the idea of manifesting, they like the idea of manifesting until they start to look at some aspects of this world and they go, that's not me. I like to be able to manifest the good and the right and the just and the lovely, but leave the evil, dark, warring, murderous part out. And that's why Jesus tells us in the Course, He says, you're afraid of your thoughts now. You're afraid of what you're convinced you did. You believe that you separated from God when you actually couldn't. You could never separate yourself from God because God didn't create you as a being that could separate. God doesn't know you as a being that could separate. A lot of times, somebody told me there was a running joke about, in Genesis it says, God created man in his likeness and image. And the running joke is, and man returned the favor and created God in man's likeness and image. That's why in the Bible, people get confused when they see God zapping a tribe. That's very human. Do we really think a God of pure love is going to zap anybody? That doesn't make any sense. There's a big long word for it. It's called anthropomorphism. When you make an anthropomorphic God, you assign human characteristics and feelings like anger to God. And that is the biggest joke that there could ever be because the real God, the Creator, I'm not talking about the Creator of time and space. The ego projected time and space. But the Creator of spirit is pure love, pure eternal bliss. And that God is so loving that the Holy Spirit was an extension that came from that as a helper, say a helper who can see the illusion but he knows that it's not true. That's the kind of helper I want. The one that can see the illusion, can see the defiled altar and look past the defiled altar to the truth and keep steady gaze on the light. That's the kind of helper you need. No matter what you seem to do, the Holy Spirit only comes back to the remembrance of the true nature. So that's why it's the helper, the comforter, because it's a bridge back to remembering the truth. So the thing about it is, when Jesus says you're entitled to freedom, peace, happiness and joy, when I was in university for ten years, full-time undergraduate and graduate, I used to walk in a park that was next to this big University of Cincinnati called Burnett Woods. And I would walk and I would go feed the ducks or watch the geese and walk through the forest and ponder, what is this all about? What's it all about? I'm in university, I'm not finding any clear answers to my ontological questions I'm not finding answers to. And then as I walked around, Jesus did tell me, he said, you are entitled to perfect happiness, perfect joy, perfect peace, perfect love, but your means of going about it are crazy. You're trying to learn your way back to heaven and all of the world is learned, it's false learning. So you actually need to unlearn everything that you've ever learned. That's what Buddha said, that's what Lao Tzu said, that's what Ramana Maharshi said, that's what Jesus said, that's what, you know, even the modern Eckhart Tolle, you know, you have to unlearn everything that you believe to know who you are. Because this is a world of false perception. It was made from the belief in separation. I remember one time I was up in Edmonton, Canada, many years ago and there was a big congregation and it was a science of mind church like this. I thought, fantastic, I love to get invited to science of mind churches. And then I'm thinking, what's going on at the church? And I looked at the program and they were doing like a 12-part series on Buddha. I said, oh, I love an open-minded church, a church that do a 12-part series on Buddha. That's open-minded. Well, I got up there though and I just started to speak and I introduced myself and I welcomed everybody and then I started to talk a little bit about the believed separation, the believed fall from grace and I started to talk a little bit about the ego. And then after like, I was just getting going. I was looking 10 minutes into the talk, there was an elderly woman in the front and she just went like this. She said, hey, hey, hey, stop, stop, stop. You have been talking about this ego and you have not said one good kind thing about the ego. It's all negative. So stop. So I just took a drink of my water. I said, who are you? And then I said, the ego, once you did, excuse me. And I continued on with the talk for another couple, two or three hours. Yeah, that's it. The ego wants you dead. The ego is a death wish. There is nothing constructive about a death wish. There is nothing constructive about a belief that you aren't who you really are. There is nothing constructive about a belief in pain, suffering, sickness, what we could say the generator of illusions, the generator of lies, of falsehoods. And that's why once you start to understand that the ego belief is a death wish, if you really hear what I'm saying, you'll devote the rest of your life now to letting this unconscious ego be brought to light so that you are no longer run emotionally and perceptually by a death wish. You know, and Jesus said, the last to be overcome shall be death. That's what the crucifixion and the resurrection was just, it was just a skit. He had already accepted the resurrection in his mind before he went on his public ministry, before he even called the apostles. That mind was resurrected. That mind, of course, was speaking words like, I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father but through me. That was the universal spirit speaking through the body, the puppet of Jesus. So it wasn't saying that Jesus, the man, was the way, the truth, and the life, but it was saying the presence, the I am presence is in all cultures, in all situations, no matter what names you give to it. You could call it intuition, op-on, you could call it higher self, call it whatever you want, call it Fred, call it Jane, call it anything. It doesn't matter, the names don't matter, but that I am presence is so bright and so brilliant and so present that only the belief in the ego keeps the mind from being aware of that light. And when I say mind, I'm talking divine mind. God, you were created with a divine mind. That's what Ernest Holmes was talking about, the founder of this fellowship. So once I really opened up Course in Miracles back in 1986, I had this like tsunami of love that felt like washing over me and I thought my life is never going to be the same and it's like the title of your song, I found it, I found you. I found you! I found you, I found you, I found you and which mountain should I go to ascend and then all the angels left and Jesus left and went ha ha, he thinks he's ready to ascend. He's at A in the alphabet and he thinks he's at Z. Cosmic humor, everyone laughs, ha ha ha! You're just at the beginning and the beginning is when you just realize that you have something in your heart that wants to be free, that wants to know God, that wants to be free of the ego and you're not even going to try to mince and blend things and say, well there's some helpful aspects to the ego. No, I can tell you there are none and I've found consistent happiness by transcending it, by with much help from Jesus and the Holy Spirit transcending it. The last, last night we were at the Center for Spiritual Living in Seal Beach and the woman who introduced us that she was watching a bunch of YouTubes of mine years ago and she's the psychotherapist and she said, there's something wrong with this guy. There's something really wrong with this guy. So she watched more videos and more videos. She tried to put her finger on what's wrong with this guy. There's something really wrong. And then finally she went, huh, he doesn't seem to have an ego. That's what's wrong. It stands out. It's you're a psychotherapist and seeing clients the whole day. That was like something fishy here. But the thing was, was when you give yourself over to this, it does turn into like a fairy tale. I've told stories of all the miracles I've experienced, not all of them. There was no way to tell all of them. But even when you tell a large majority of the miracles, people will say, your life sounds like a fairy tale. But then things showed up and things showed up and things showed up and things dropped in and things dropped in and synchronicities. And are they coincidences? No, they're miracles. And there's lots of them. And when your mind starts to get flooded with miracles, then you realize, oh, that's what I'm meant to be doing. As Jesus says, you're meant to be habitually miracle-minded. Isn't that a good use of habitually? Every time we talk about habits, usually a bad habit, Jesus says, why don't you make the miracle a habit? Why don't you become habitually right-minded? Habitually aligned with God? See how your life goes? See how your eyes sparkle? See how you light up when you're habitually miracle-minded? You know, everything goes your way. You know, I had a raising the dead experience. That's not usually common for human beings. But I did have... I was bringing a plate of food to my grandmother, my elderly grandmother. And I would always go to the same grocery store, go to the salad bar, and I would always make her the salad. She would cut her cheese, you know, lily and favorite things, you know, pick them at the salad bar, take them to your grandmother. But this time I was told, go to a different grocery store than a different one. Okay. And I should have known there was something going on because I was doing the course workbook lessons. And I happened to be on the workbook lesson. There is no death. The Son of God is free. When you're doing that workbook lesson, you should be ready for raising the dead experience. Because when the raising the dead experience came, it actually felt very natural. You know, I wasn't like, watch it. Who saw that? I was actually in my workbook lesson. There is no death. The Son of God is free. And that was going through my mind while I watched a woman who was laying on the floor and the paramedics had to write a work on her. And then the paramedics left. And she was just a body laying there not moving. There was no diaphragm moving, no lung movement. But then I was by the frozen food section. She's hit me by the press and I was touching it and I was watching. And like a rolodex in my mind, I was doing what course students are supposed to do, have the thought for the day in your mind and give your whole heart to there is no death. The Son of God is free. And I watched her lungs start moving again and I watched her start breathing. It went from a lifeless, still body to a breathing. And then people came and so on and so forth. And I just went on to my grandmother's apartment with the food, with the salad. Because even as I'm in the checkout, I'm like, yeah, okay, this is... Miracles are natural. When they do not occur, something has gone wrong. You see how Jesus is calling us? Miracles are natural. If you're having a bad day, something has gone wrong. Your thinking is on some kind of ego detour. But for me, I felt the presence. I felt this energy here and like third eye energy and all kinds of things going on. And that's the point. The point was these lessons set your mind free and you're only asked to do the lessons. You're just asked to do the lessons. He says you don't mean not even believe in them. Some of them you may actively resist. It does not matter. Just do them. Wow, that's a strong instruction. Just do them. It's what Holy Spirit is just basically saying, let me show you. I'll show you. You doubt, but I know the truth. You doubt, but I will convince you. You want to make the correction? No. Resign now as your own teacher. There is an inner teacher that can take you to the present moment. But it's not the personal you that thinks it can learn things and achieve skills and abilities. There's one point in the course where Jesus says you can develop your abilities in this world to such an extent that it will get you out of the world. Isn't that hopeful? You can develop your abilities to such an extent that it can get you out of this world. And then he goes on to say this world is actually an impossible situation. No wonder with stress, anxiety, depression, no wonder there's suicide, no wonder there's all this crazy insanity is because Jesus is saying this world is an impossible situation. But if you develop your skills and abilities to a certain extent with the Holy Spirit's help, they will help you escape from this world of time and space. You will know eternal life because God created you as an eternal being. So the thing that happens is as you go forward you start to find yourself being healed of addictions healed of things that were petty grievances healed of these things that you were just clinging to and holding on to for what reason? Why do we hold on to a grievance really? Do we really think we're going to benefit by holding a grudge and a grievance? And yet that is a common thing on earth to have long standing grievances that go on for for many years. And then sometimes through just something that's like serendipitous or surprise then suddenly it's gone. You meet the person that you hated for 20 years you meet him and you think you're so sweet. What was I thinking? Why was I grinding away grinding away on my mind on them and they're actually adorable. And Jesus is like, yeah, they are adorable. That's true. They are adorable. So we're just here to have a discussion. We do have this mic which has a nice long wire and we have that mic and do you feel to maybe sing another song? Sure. You hear all that I'm talking about and it's like I was thinking about singing a song called Only Love came in my mind when you were talking. So let's go into practicality. If the whole world of time and space was made by the ego and it's just all symbols then what could be more joyful more happy than the spirit's use of symbols to help you to go beyond the symbols? In heaven there are no words because words are what Jesus has but symbols of symbols twice removed from reality. So we know even from the Torah the ancient Jewish tradition and the Bible and now we have A Course in Miracles and we have the Begavad Gita and the Quran and all kinds of amazing channel writings and so forth but you will not reach God with words. Words are a very crude they're very rudimentary. It would be like trying to reach God through words is trying to like take tweezers and go out to Huntington Beach and take the sand off of Huntington Beach one tweezer thick at a time if you could just imagine going as you see this beach stretching for miles and miles and you've got your little tweezers ready I'm ready it would be ridiculous and so what Jesus teaches us in the Course even though he has 31 chapters very good very good theology but you have to unlearn that too I had to unlearn the Course to go springing into happiness is beyond the words but 31 chapters and it's got 365 workbook lessons and a manual for teachers and the clarification of terms but what Jesus says in the Course is prayer is the medium miracles prayer he doesn't say words are the medium of miracles when Jesus came 2000 years ago he poked fun at the scribes and the Pharisees who were always studying and writing and rehearsing and studying and talking about the words and that they kind of got into that a little too much and Jesus said I'm here to demonstrate really the spirit of the law and you're caught on the letter and this will be in this generation the opportunity for Course and Miracle students to not get caught on the words do not get caught on the words do not get caught on the metaphysics do not get caught on the theology it's just another book with words in but it's a beautiful use of those words you might say it's the spirit very profound use of words it's a very straight shot to God not if you cling to the words it'll be just as long and difficult as the rest if you get into like the scribes and the Pharisees if you turn into a modern day scribe or Pharisee with the Course you're not going to be happy talkative maybe but not happy but prayer is the meaning of a miracle so I remember with the publishers Judy Skutch Whitson was a friend of mine they formed this nonprofit organization called the Foundation for Interpeace and when I would have lunch with her I had many different lunches and dinners with her she just would say well when we have a board meeting we pray when we have to make decisions we pray we basically just pray we pray, listen and follow that's how we have this organization there was even another group, somebody heard of the Oransha book there's some people that came from the Oransha Foundation and they say how how has this course spread all over the world what are you doing can we take a look at your business plan and Judy said well actually we don't have a business plan we pray and listen and follow and that's how the course was printed initially the four of them got together and they just prayed for what to do is in black binders not in this form and they were guided Judy will hear the answer and she heard make the commitment first like Jesus was not even going to give them instructions what to do with the black binders and the course until they made the commitment what were they committing to Helen and Bill were research psychologists Judy was an academic and so was Ken Wapnick so we've got four academic professionals and Jesus saying make the commitment first he was asking them to commit their entire lives to his course before he would even give them instructions on how it was to be printed that's a good note for everyone because commitment everybody knows in a relationship you have to have commitment in a career you have to have commitment I mean basically anything that you want to bring forth in this world as a goal everyone knows it takes a lot of work hard work and commitment a lot of effort well spiritual awakening the same thing if you have believed in the ego we'll say for millennium and now you're going to be free of it it's going to take commitment and I know even for me when I first came across the course and I had it for a while and I used it like an oracle to speak to me but I could tell that's what Jesus wanted from me he wanted my whole life he wanted me with no future ambitions no future goals no future he wanted my mind wholly at his use for the plan of awakening career forget about it as they say in Italian forget about it career family forget about it future goal forget about it what do you want to achieve and accomplish in this world forget about it do you want to heal yes yes I want to heal yes I give you everything I give you my bank account which doesn't have much in it Jesus you'll find that out I'll give you my possessions I don't have many I'll give you my relationships I'll give it all to you and then you can direct me and instruct me and so now 36 years later I've been in 44 countries around the world many many many times like a spinning top been in hermitages for long stretches of time and deep meditations fasted and all the things that you do in terms of spirituality but in the end it's all just to be happy it's all just to be happy and joyful in the moment that's what it is and in the end you realize you didn't do any of it you just said yes you just somewhere in your heart said yes I I'm coming use me you know the way I will step back and I will follow at the beginning you know with ten years of full-time university Jesus was like you've got a lot to unlearn I said wasn't that good that was a lot of work all the papers and the grades and everything you've got a lot of work let's just leave it at that you've learned a lot of things that need to be unlearned you're in need of following instructions and so he took me with the things that I had resistance to like I really didn't like to travel David back in those days twenty twenty eight years old David was not keen on traveling Jesus said we're going traveling and then I had a degree in planning I would have planned if I was going to travel around the United States I would make some plans I would not just go out on the road with no plans Jesus said I'll give you some guidance and you just follow what I say I say okay what's the first guidance he guided me to get a little three-cylinder car great gas mileage the thing basically drove on fumes great gas mileage he knows what for me but I didn't have any church support no organizational support where's the money going to come where am I going to sleep how am I going to eat I'll take care of all that you just show up for me you show up for me I'll take care of all the rest the car, the gas yes yes yes yes but I don't have the money there's no money in the bank so the first trip was five and a half weeks then back that went all the way across the United States and up to Canada and back and then the second one was about six weeks and thus began 36 years of I will step back and let him lead the way very different from the way I was raised I was raised with the Protestant work ethic I was raised that you you work, you earn you save, you spend Protestant work ethic I think a few of you too a lot of us were raised with that and Jesus said well you believe that you can take care of yourself as a person and you don't understand how much pride and arrogance is even in the idea of self-sufficiency work study work, earn, save, spend he said you have no idea of the arrogance of thinking that you can create yourself and maintain yourself as apart from God you have no idea how arrogant that is I thought it was pretty I thought I was raised well and Jesus said the ego is a poor teacher you've been raised on the ego and now you have to unlearn anything that you've ever learned and thus when I went on these trips oh that was interesting for the ego yeah going out and trusting I would say things like have you ever traveled across the United States do you know what it's like you expect me to end up like a bag lady in Chicago on the streets if I keep following this this is my fear that I'm going to be a homeless person and he said you're already homeless you're homeless you think you have a home you think you're a time-space creature but you're not home at all you're not even close and you need instruction you need help you need to learn about divine providence think of Mother Teresa Divine Providence think of St. Francis I said yeah there's not that many examples of divine providence think of Horatio Alger's stories you know work your fingers to the bone to earn and save and earn and save and build a self build a self you know how much work it takes and Jesus is like yeah you've been poorly taught poorly taught to think that you personally are responsible for yourself or anybody else even children but it's involved in taking personal responsibility for survival of a body that God didn't create that body is something the Holy Spirit can use as a communication device that's actually the only purpose that the body is is a communication device but when you use it for other things and then you wonder why it seems to get sick or it seems to die Jesus says it's no surprise how much is guilt you believe in death so you experience death no death in heaven but you believe it so you perceive it he even says in the Course he said no one dies without their own consent no one dies without their own consent so I would rather give my consent to Jesus and the Holy Spirit and say guide me lead me show me the way then give consent to a death wish that has set this whole world up to be a witness of separation sickness suffering and death and once you start to get into it at the beginning you've got your questions you've got your doubts you've got your things coming up but the more you give it over I look at these big gold letters it's straight it's got exit in bright green and let go and let God I'm doing the whole talk with this facing me exit in bright green let go and let God it is living a life of faith it's living a life of trust but not trust based on past learning that I tried it I was in university for full time for 10 years and I believe I studied I went from conservatory of music engineering urban planning philosophy, psychology anthropology, women's studies I mean I did the whole thing over and over and over and then after 10 years of that Jesus said are you ready now to let go and let God you're not going to reach God with your intellect you will reach God through surrendering everything you believe and everything you think you know but you know nothing and as long as you remember that you know nothing I can teach you but if you already think you know I can't work with you I have to wait I have to be patient because they're Jesus is saying I'm your equal we're the same one he even says in the course he said I cannot take your fear away because if I took your fear away that would be interfering with the most basic law of the universe which is cause and effect what is he saying I cannot intervene or interfere between your thoughts and the effects of your thoughts you are literally receiving a motion picture of your consciousness and I can't intervene unless you ask me to come and show me and instruct me on how to get past these grievances and attack thoughts you see the difference between save me Jesus save me Jesus come into my life and save me verses help me Jesus instruct me with your Holy Spirit guide me with your Holy Spirit you know they always said you know instead of giving people fish you should teach people how to fish just saying you're enlightened he says I will give you instructions to reach enlightenment you see we have to actually practice and follow the instructions it's not like this beam of light just comes and zaps you over the head and then others don't get zapped it's all there for us but we have to follow the instructions and when we do follow the instructions it's glorious amazingly well so I'm interested in music movies, philosophy psychology religion everything I can talk about this using sports analogies if you want that I can use dating analogies I did a movie last Saturday where I took the concept of infidelity and I took it all the way back to what was the seeming first infidelity people get so angry around infidelity in this world I'll never forgive you I never want to speak to you again I hope I never see you again but what was the first infidelity that's believing in the ego because when God created us it wasn't a passive creation Jesus says you actually answered in the affirmative when you were created you actually went yes you actually didn't say thank you thank you feathers hitting you perfect I'm eternal you actually said yes so to believe in the ego is the first infidelity not a real infidelity but in terms of awareness if you believe you're something that you're not that's got to hurt if you believe you're something you're not so that was the original infidelity was the belief that you could separate from the source and then all the projected infidelities they had nothing to do with sexuality it has everything to do with self-honesty am I as God created me or did I create myself that's the question that's our modern version of Shakespeare am I as God created me or can I make myself different from the way God created me so we have microphones here maybe is anybody have any kind of topic or question that you have a burning thought in your mind like I would like to ask about this particular topic or and we can we would like you to speak it into a microphone so but so people can hear it everybody can hear it so come here up here if anybody feels they'd like to use my mic yeah David I have a question yeah okay I can tell you yes I will how did that go out that's an interesting parable it's one of the early parables well the first day I think I drove I think I drove into I got all the way over to Missouri for the first night and then the second day of my driving wonderful and holy encounters with the people I was meeting I landed in Tulsa Oklahoma I was really driving pretty a lot of miles to go from Cincinnati to Tulsa, Oklahoma and when I landed there Spirit guided me to a campground so I sat there and I made friends with all these people at a campground and there was a blind man there who played the guitar and sang and we spent the whole night singing together as I stayed there the second night I think I made it over to the second night I made it to Oklahoma City and you may know with A Course in Miracles they had this thing it was called A Course in Miracles International Bed and Breakfast Network and I had taken Xerox copies of it and said make some copies so as I went into Tulsa it was a Sunday morning you're a minister you know what goes on at a church on Sunday morning but I looked on there and they said I think the service was in the morning and then there was like a Course in Miracles group that was ending at 12 o'clock noon and I looked I was guided to this church in Tulsa and I looked and the Course group ends at 12 and it's it's about 11.55 and I said I'm not going to walk into A Course in Miracles group where I don't even know the people on the for the last five minutes he said that's right get in there so I walked in I sat down they were having a big heated Course in Miracles discussion about sexuality and they were all fired up and I think this I think this the Course says this so I sat there and then it was noon very quick and then they looked and they said where did you come from and I said I just was guided I came in here and they're like great oh what's your name Southern Hospitality oh come on and then this guy named Jack he said I'm taking a bunch of people out for lunch I want you to come out to lunch I'm taking we're all going Course in Miracles group going out so he takes us out he buys everyone lunch he says where are you I'm just out driving across the country and he said well come on back home with me then I've got some work to do but you stay at my house here you play tennis there's a tennis court here there's a jacuzzi there totally invited me in said eat anything out of the refrigerator for a man I had never met well believe me this was 36 years ago and that's happened a lot it when Jesus says in the Course I will orchestrate time and space for you if you will be a miracle worker for me he means literally orchestrate time and space so I was there I was there all afternoon I think I relaxed on the couch read the Course didn't use the tennis court I might have used the jacuzzi I think he comes home he's like about five o'clock well I got my work done I'd like to let's go out for a barbecue and on my houseboat and I'm going to call all these people up and you seem to know a lot about a Course of Miracles let's do a boat party tonight and this was my second night out on the road with Jesus and I'm like holy cow if this is if this is going to be like this oh my god I'm a shy guy from Cincinnati and this is like way beyond so sure enough he said hey come on David's still here let's do a potluck Course of Miracles on my boat we went out the moon was coming up we're on the lake at night Sunday night we're having watermelon and spitting the watermelon seeds out onto the lake and I'm like and this is so real this is what happens when you let Jesus run your life and that boat ride and when we pulled in he said well it's Sunday night all of us have to go to work tomorrow but you're welcome to stay on the boat as long as you want and this is the kind of open ended love and generosity when you let the spirit go before you because I had all the same fears like where am I going to get the gas and where am I going to sleep and that was the second night out and then it continued also Oklahoma City there was a woman named Marcella that I had met up at Ken Wapnick's place up in the Casco Mountains and she took me to the Oklahoma City Cowboy Museum these people welcome you into their house I mean to stay and they feed you and you have all these deep discussions that's why he wanted me on that boat he wanted me to tell what the course had to say about sexuality because big debate in the course group so that's why he did the whole potluck and it went on and on and on and on I see Kyle's here tonight that's how I was taking a trip to the East Coast and I found I think it was the same bed and breakfast network or something his mother Cindy was there and I said okay I'll come and visit you where are you living I live on High Street High Street I said you live on High Street what's the name of the town Hartville you live on High Street in Hartville oh yeah it's not my house but the woman Carol said I can live here for free as long as I want okay you know when you start really trusting and you don't think that you personally have to figure out how to survive how to take care of everything the whole world opens up we call it like the holographic universe your mind gets so lined up that the door is just open open open open and they've been opening for 36 years they've been opening in 44 countries I've had started centers in Hawaii and Spain and Mexico and Australia and around the world and it's not David doing it because it's not a personal thing the spirit goes before you when you say I will I will serve your will I want to know God all you really that's the prayer of the heart if you want to know God when you start to let go of the other things another way I could say it Reverend Bev is that in lesson 50 of A Course in Miracles the lesson is I am sustained by the love of God and then Jesus says you believe you are sustained by everything else but the love of God pills, money, protective clothing being right knowing the right people even 26 lessons later it's like lesson 76 I am under no laws but God you believe in the laws of medicine you believe in the laws of economics you believe a fluid pushed through a sharpened needle will ward off disease oh Jesus is talking about vaccinations in A Course in Miracles how's that for relevant this was written back and published back around 1976 but he says you really believe a fluid pushed through a sharpened needle can ward off disease you believe in the laws of economics you believe in the laws of nutrition you even believe in the laws of friendship wow you mean there's laws of friendship that are made up by the ego no wonder I've been people pleasing no wonder I felt guilt in my relationships the ego has permeated everything of time and space for the purpose of guilt keeping guilt because that's how it perpetuates itself through guilt through fear and guilt and anger so it's been a great adventure and it's not so much this adventure because in the end I tell people you know it's nothing special happened to David at all other than I just in mind I just said yes to God and I just said you direct my life instead of me trying to direct it I tried it on my own it didn't go very well it was not going well at all but when I gave it over like let go and let God and I mean not just in the words but in an actual sense of it then things unfolded even meeting Svava Svava had was over in Europe you were in Denmark and you were you knew I was doing a five day retreat in Holland and she signed up and then she got fear and she tried to send an email taking it back her registration and she never heard back from the organizer she had registered and then she couldn't unregister later on we met the guy and his girlfriend we were traveling in a camper was it in Norway in Norway and he said oh yeah I got that email I didn't do anything with it I didn't feel to answer it the organizer said so that's how we met an email request please no I don't I want to unregister he ignored it we met him later on at the gatherings and that all worked out and yeah Svava shared on YouTube a lot of her aspects of her steps but it's the same thing that I'm sharing it's really the same same story you have a song for that what about simple life oh yeah that's a good one for that I think we're talking the most simple life you could ever fathom yeah clearly it is your light the soul this is the vision that shows me light to give the time a simple life one, two, two live a simple life love I want to live to give that resonates simple life that's all we're praying for please give me a simple life I want a simple life of joy yeah yes sure two questions it's just like flexing this opportunity oh yeah that's great that's fantastic well I am curious what you told the boat group in Oklahoma about sexuality I love to hear what because I don't remember the course of miracles talking about it I remember them talking about like holy relationships but that to me is the same as sexuality so that's one question and then my second question for Shazbo is unreliable well maybe we'll just do one at a time okay that's a tiny one sexuality one little question then we'll get into the second one yeah well when the course was first dictated often times Helen would write something down and Jesus would say what I said was this what she wrote was this and there was a point where Jesus shared that sexual impulses are misdirected miracle impulses and then he said to her go back I want you to change it to physical impulses are misdirected miracle impulses physical impulses meaning when we think of sexuality as a bito and a sex drive and sexual attraction and Jesus says yeah those are misdirected miracle impulses but so are hunger and thirst some of you remember Abraham Maslow's hierarchy of needs of pyramid the basic needs at the bottom Jesus was just telling us well as a human being you seem to you're hungry, you're thirsty you feel hot, you feel cold you feel all kinds of things but basically these are misdirected miracle impulses and then he says all real pleasure comes from doing God's will you can see where he's going so what is a misdirected miracle impulse it's just that through that unconscious I talked about the subconscious mind which is the darkened mind the hidden secret mind that the light of the miracle can come through it but just like a light that passes through a prism or filter gets split like a beam of light can get split into a rainbow of colors that's what happens with the miracle impulse every time you're really hungry you're hungry for God you're hungry to remember the creator every time you're thirsty you're thirsty for the creator every time you have a sexual attraction you're attracted underneath it to a burning love that you would weep Jesus says if you remembered how much love there was you would weep tears would just start flowing down your face if you began to remember how much love is there so what that's saying is that everything that we call the basic human needs are still based on the belief in need which is based on lack which is what the ego is so the light still shining through the light so bright we can't keep it out of our mind but it comes through like the light going through a prism where we're attracted to things in form and because of the belief in lack we believe we need to have those things in form you know a sexual interaction or partner food a good meal when you're hungry a nice drink of water when you're thirsty and so on and so forth but what Jesus is saying and he said this 2,000 years ago to the woman at the well after he told her all about her life and everything and she thought oh my god what if I got the Jewish prophet next to me he said drink of me and you will never thirst again you'll hear the Holy Spirit drink of me and you will never thirst again because he had transcended time and space and that's why even the resurrection scene was just little skit in time and space to show you can't really kill the Christ that's all the resurrection really was was just a little skit showing that you can't kill your divinity so now to take it one step further because then people say well how do I deal with that now well it's like it's all under guidance in other words Jesus is saying if you believe in lack you are going to eat and you're going to thirst you're going to have these sexual attractions and basically he's just saying please bring them under my guidance you know I'm not going to rip the world away from you because you believe in it if you had a little child who was having a nightmare and they were passing and turning and you could tell your child was having a nightmare you wouldn't necessarily try to go in and wake them from the dream in the middle of their nightmare because they may perceive your hand as a monster and it's happened to me sometimes and somebody jolts me when I'm in the middle of the nightmare you perceive the waking up as part of something's trying to get you if you're having a fearful dream so Jesus is saying let me guide you on your eating let me guide you on your sexuality let me guide you on your profession your career in your job just be open to me guiding you very practically and very specifically every day that's your intuition those are those little nudges and prompts that we get now when people think about relationships obviously this lack and this need thing and using people for sexuality or using a partner for money or resources or things in the world that's pretty common in the world where two people come together and collaborate and they share resources and house and so on and so forth and they make a commitment and Jesus is saying good I can use it even in a committed relationship in a committed monogamous relationship I can still use that to help you release the unconscious guilt you see some people it's more like with yoga you have a yoga practice that's a mind discipline Dina can tell you it's a mind discipline she just was teaching yoga in the park today and whatever you're doing if you start to think of it in terms of how is this training my mind to be more in alignment with my source that's when you go in the right direction it's not something we try to analyze or figure out and there's no shoulds and shouldn'ts and all these kind of rules and laws Jesus was saying there's only one law and that's the law of love but you made up the ego and you made up a bunch of other laws gravity, economics you've made a lot of laws of lack to cover over the divine law of love but he said I'll help you unwind so that's for me the way the spiritual we were talking about gentleness I heard you guys talking at dinner tonight let's pray for gentleness let it be gentle, please let it be gentle and that is really just saying I want to live a more of an intuitive life I want to be very prayerful before I just jump into things out of guilt I want to be prayerful and really feel the purpose of what I'm doing I want to put my heart into it and that's kind of the way my life has gone I've set out to write books and there's now all these books I don't write books, I just talk and then people transcribe the talks and turn them magically into books and then they say you're an author I've never sat down to write a book but it happens because it's just it's helpful symbols like the book that Kyle has this moment is your miracle there's exercises in there that you can practice like you actually put into practice and so that's like a quick summation of your sexual question but that's kind of what's going on in the mind level and that's where the purification has to take place but it usually takes place through lots of guidance and instruction and willingness and you had a second question too yeah, I had a second question the second question was what practice or how could I shift my thinking around around body issues like say I have recurring headaches or say I have recurring like eczema or like things that you know I pray every day and have experienced like miraculous healing like I had sciatica for two years and experience a miraculous healing of letting go of that extreme pain but now in my day to day sometimes I have like smaller pains and it's if I know the miraculous is possible but in the every day I would love to be free of like the yeast infections or like just like ailments so I'll leave it at that yeah well there was of course a miracle student called Louise Hay and Louise Hay was really really loved to start with the symptom level and then trace it back into the mind like what is the core thought or the core belief that this is showing me so you see then you start to see the body it's just a reflector as a mirror and then once you start thinking of the body in that way what is this showing me in my mind that's what Louise Hay did she literally wrote a whole book based on that one thing and then Jesus almost makes reference he doesn't say Louise Hay by name but he does say a careful tracing back from the form or the symptom to the mind can be helpful but the main thing that heals is forgiveness in other words even when you trace it back to the thought or the belief you still have to let it go you see even if you trace I'm having recurring headaches ah, here's the thoughts I've been thinking of and then you have to get to the point where let go and let God where would I rather be right about this pain or suffering that I'm experiencing or would I rather be happy would I rather release it and be happy and that's the point of forgiveness that's the point of letting go there was a Jesus Chandler one time who he was he was living in Hawaii and he carried some groceries and some heavy bags of grocery and then he felt all this back pain and so he finally just sat down in the chair and he prayed and he went into, alright Jesus tell me, help me, what's going on and Jesus said well you think you just strained your back by carrying those heavy grocery bags and he said but actually that pain is coming from a past memory of when you were born your mother took you to a Christian science facility to be born and it was a breached birth and you're feeling the back pain because you still haven't forgiven your mother and you still haven't forgiven the people that brought you into the world with the birth and he was just like that's what, it shows you how deep it goes, it goes way way down into the subconscious, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with what's going on in form the problem is when you look for the things and what is in form that's causing me the headaches and things like this, it's a very tiny perspective when you look, when you know that you're sitting on an iceberg of unconscious darkness just a past coming up for release so then this guy Paul he was like okay alright Jesus and then Jesus said now I'll tell you something it never happened the breached birth never happened here we go into the great Lord who's taking us back to the I am presence it never happened the grievance that you held against your mother, the grievance for what that breached birth because birth is again another concept that the ego invented there's no birth and death in eternity but you see how the ego just keeps manipulating the images like smoke and mirrors and it's trying to use the things of time and space to protect itself it's like a little spider hiding in a well and if you shine a flashlight down into the dark well it will move away from the light it will literally go and hide wherever the light goes the spider will hide so that's why I always advocate prayer journaling talking to a mighty companion you may start to uncover some thoughts that maybe you had been thinking but you hadn't shared with anybody like Paul did when he was saying to Jesus what happened with his back pain and then Jesus worked him all the way back to it didn't happen but you see he worked it back into the past and a memory and that's often what we're doing we're dealing with these generational issues and memories that have been in our family tree we'll say in the world for many generations and now we're just starting to rise up and starting to realize wow I'm innocent I don't have to keep playing that script out I don't have to keep you know choosing these things I can be guided I can live an inspired life and then you're just following your inspiration so the more you follow your inspiration the more those things just kind of fade away you know the pains the little pains start to fade fade away as your mind lights up for the pain listen to that Carly Simon song haven't got time for the pain haven't the need for the pain haven't the room for the pain not since I've known you that's good okay any more questions you're welcome yes in the course in miracles it says I have never sin and say you're beginning to be willing to accept that but you have family members that are continuously in my medium of grievances that they have how do you deal with that well our function is always to overlook the error so you know Jesus says that that sin is an error to be corrected and you might say that these family members are again always doing us a favor because whatever they're saying and they're doing is showing us an opportunity to really look inside experientially and from an emotional place to see do I believe in the error or not especially my family relatives are saying you know you have sinned reminding you of these errors and Jesus does say in the course the role of the accuser will appear in many forms and it will seem to be accusing you but have no fear it will go at last oh my gosh it will go at last it's been going on for generations and it will go at last yeah have no fear it will go at last your mind will be set free so you might think of people instead of thinking them as people think of them as thoughts so as long as these thoughts keep appearing in consciousness and they keep pointing the finger and accusing they are just nothing more than forgiveness opportunities I know with my biological family with my father he you know he wasn't happy he was in a job a career he didn't like he felt very tied down very limited and he was quite angry for quite a few years and he would say things to me like you know if I would pray study the course he would say no good dirty rotten bum get a job I'm trying to be like Saint Francis and he was telling me get a job and actually it got to the point where I think I talk about this a little bit in a book that came through me called forgiveness quantum forgiveness quantum forgiveness physics meet Jesus that's the name of the book quantum forgiveness physics meet Jesus and so in that book I talk about my relationship with my father and how I saw finally that it was coming all from my mind and when I finally saw that it was all coming from my mind he came to me one day and he said he said David I really wasn't a very good father and I said not for an instant do I believe that I said you did the best that you could do based on what you believe I did the best that I could do based on what I believe and it's over now and he lit up we both our relationship just lit up like a firecracker at that point because I was basically saying I'm not going to hold the past to you at all and I'm not going to hold the past on me either we are now born again and we had such a happy relationship from that point but it took me to come to that point where people would say well you're working with of course well your dad really changed a lot and I said no no my mind changed I said let's be honest I changed my mind and then I saw the witness to that and it was beautiful it was just amazing loving and beautiful so that's all I would say is if that's happening again and again it's just an opportunity to get to the point where you can really speak it from your heart and say no I'm not holding myself to the past and I'm not holding you to the past either it's like let's be honest we don't want to hold on to the past at all it's not serving us yeah thank you well we kept time maybe for our closing song we're almost a few minutes away yeah do you have a song about my savior or something here we are Center for Spiritual Living what's the name of the song my savior my savior okay here we are let's hear what this one is thank you everyone it's been just wonderful being here with you very touching very profound and yeah it's just an honor that we can be here and witness to this together you know because we all want to have someone take our hand and fly free we want the feeling of freedom and I'm so grateful that you're all here and we can share in this together so thank you thank you so much it's been a beautiful trip for us yeah we're kind of mystics in the deepest sense so every trip we take everything we do we think this could be the last one because I know Sava has such a draw into the stillness and doing a lot of painting and poetry and art and podcasts and yeah so we're enjoying it Jesus has just been saying just enjoy yourselves so we are thoroughly enjoying ourselves with you thank you thank you for coming