 Good morning and welcome to this week's edition of Encompass Live. I am your host, Krista Burns, here at the Nebraska Library Commission. Encompass Live is the Commission's weekly online event. We are a webinar, a webcast, an online show, whatever you want to call us. We're here live every Wednesday morning at 10 a.m. Central Time. The sessions are recorded and posted onto our website after the show. Both the show and our recordings are free and open to anyone to watch. So share with your friends and colleagues anything that we are doing upcoming and our recorded shows. And we do a mixture of things here, presentations, book reviews, mini-training sessions. Basically, if anything is library related, we are looking to have it on the show. And we sometimes have a Nebraska Library Commission staff that do presentations, but we also do bring on guest speakers sometime. And that's what we have this morning. On the line with us from just north of us, we're here in Lincoln. They're up in the Omaha area is Amy Wenzel from the Omaha Public Library. Hi, Amy. Say hello. Hi. Hi. And Wanda Butts, who's from our Summit Memorial Library in Papillion. Amy used to work at Summit Memorial, correct? That's correct. But they did this presentation about some programming that they did for adults with special needs. And I'll say also, Amy, I'll just warn everyone, she is having some voice issues this morning. She's a little sick, so she may be a little quiet sounding if she's having some problems. Wanda may speak up for her on her behalf to make sure that we can get through this with the least amount of trauma to Amy and her voice. So I'm just going to hand it over to you guys to take it away and share your presentation with us. Well, good morning from Natto Sunny, Illinois, Nebraska. My name is Wanda Butts, and I'm here with Amy Wenzel. And we're going to give you kind of our insight on a program that we did for adults with special needs. And we named it Fun with Friends. We didn't come up with anything clever. We couldn't seem to find anything. We didn't want to call it a story time. So we just called it something simple, Fun with Friends. And it ended up being pretty much that kind of a program. Amy is kind of without a voice this morning, so I will do most of the talking and she will interject. So I hope you don't have problems hearing her, as I can't hear her too well anyway. So I kind of want to give you a little background about this program and maybe a little background about both Amy and myself. We kind of thought about this program. Amy became really involved with it as she was a community engagement assistant director at the Stunt Memorial Library at that time. We just saw a lot of special needs adults coming into our library to use our computers and also with groups that would just come in and sit and look at books. As we watched these special adults, we kind of started thinking about the fact that we would like to have a program that involved them more within the library that had kind of a literacy component with it. And we approached some of the caregivers that were coming in to see how they would feel about this program. So Amy set out to write a grant for the program, which actually we received. And so now we had the money and we had some people that were interested and here were two people telling nothing about special needs and what kind of program to put on. So we first thought about the fact that we wanted to make it sort of like a storytime. But many of these adults showed interest in some of our regular storytime programming. But the storytime for children didn't really fit the needs of the adults. First of all, all these programs, they weren't designed with the needs of the adults. There was not a physical space in the children's programming for it to accommodate them. And the programs were also not designed to meet their needs intellectually. So these adults, they had adult experiences and sometimes a great deal of knowledge about the topic being discussed. Those programs were designed for children at a different point in their lives intellectually. So we had to come up with a brand new program. So we decided we wanted to institute some programming for adults, but not having any experience with that population. We weren't sure where to start. So basically, Amy started researching those programs around the country, both by libraries and other organizations that dealt with special needs. And we kind of found a few programs that we wanted to use their format. Amy contacted Sarah Ringer at Durham County Libraries and that's in North Carolina. And you can Google that actually and find your creation about it. And she had a fantastic story time and she had a craft program that I was with her with it. So Amy contacted her and she gave us all of her resources, pages of information, and even months and months of her programming ideas. And with that, Amy and I kind of set out to establish some kind of a program. Well, unbeknownst to us, there were a lot of other resources out there. The Ollie Webb had a book club and so we talked with him. But they really had, we didn't want to go into a book club type program because Ollie Webb already had that established. And that book club is called The Next Chapter Book Club. And I want to give you that information because Ollie Webb is on the web. You can Google them also. And you can also Google The Next Chapter Book Club, which will give you a lot of information. We didn't really want to compete with him. We wanted to offer something additional. We also considered a 10-week series of educational art programs with an organization in Omaha called Y Arts. And this organization worked to bring art education to people of all ages, socioeconomic status, and ability levels. And they have done quite a bit of work with special needs adults with this program. So we applied for an additional grant to be able to offer that program also, but we did not get that grant. And it was kind of a little pricey because it includes a lot of materials. It includes somebody, a professional artist that comes in and actually deals with that program. So Amy, I was going to say to use that storm time format, that one that you usually use with children with a literacy component, a craft, and maybe some kind of a movement. But we went to a local organization in Papilla, Nebraska, and we talked to them about our program. And when we presented it, we presented it in that storm time format. This was a local organization that provided the day and residential programs to adults with special needs. And we were told that although their adults may enjoy that program, the caring neighbors or guardians of those adults with special needs may not be quite as supportive. So they would probably think the program that we were bringing forth was a little too childish. So of course then Amy went back to the drawing board and started looking at other options. And since we needed this organization was willing to work with us and bring like 10 to 12 adults to our program, they were very helpful in helping us design a program we knew we could get approved through the organization. So that's kind of how we came up with Where is Fun with Friends. Again, I can't tell you enough about the fact that we mean nothing about how to do this. So we're flying by the seat of our pants. So one of the things I think is really very important is that you communicate with the people that are in the know. Talk to as many people, parents, caregivers, organizations that deal with special needs. And they're always very willing to give you all of their information they possibly can't. So we set out. We have our program already. We decided it was going to be a one hour monthly educational and social program. Based on the fact that we would love to maybe have done it every week but we were doing this under the grant format. So we would have limited funds at that time. Our content would vary greatly depending on the month. So we would kind of have a theme each month that we presented. So our basic format included an icebreaker. And the icebreaker usually what we would do is we'd get into a big circle and we'd toss a ball back and forth. And when they cut the ball, they would say their name. You can't say your name over and over again. There's nothing better in the whole world than to be called by name. And so the participants, we had name tags for them. We learned their names. We learned a little bit about them so that we could always be calling them by name. And they loved that. They learned our names quickly and they were thrilled to be able to talk to us. So then we'd always learn a new topic. So we had our topic that we would present. And then after our topic, we would usually do some kind of project or craft, a hands-on. And then at the end, time allowing, we would always have a mini dance party. Something that was fun that maybe sometimes if we had too much time, they would, of course, anybody, no matter who you are, if you're small, if you have special needs, if you're just an adult, you're always willing to dance. Dancing was always, you know, something that we all love to do. Now I'm going to kind of tell you about some of the programs that we did. And I can be not always always successful. You know, you always want your program to be wonderful but then not always successful. Some of the programs that worked, I think, a very first theme, as you can see by the picture, was Mardi Gras. And that's kind of when we started our program in February, March. And so we presented a literacy part of it by talking about Mardi Gras. We showed a very short little video clip and then we did a craft. And the craft, as you can see, was making masks. We had feathers, we had jewels, we had glue, we had great time. And it was really fun and everybody was really excited about taking their craft home with them. And at that time, our dance was the Cupid Shuffle, which was a fun dance. If you don't know anything about that, please Google that also because that's something you should all have on your iPods. Dancing with little kids, big kids, it doesn't make any difference. It was just a lot of fun. The next problem we did was called Butterflies. And we played Butterfly Bingo and we would have different types of butterflies that we would show and then they would have a bingo card. And that was a really interesting program more or less because it was the first time we really did something that was... There was a literacy component to it, but not a book. We just played a game and we showed and talked about different types of butterflies. I don't know, it was kind of fun for a while, but it wasn't something we wanted to have to last too long because it lost interest really quickly. So afterwards, Amy and I had grown up a big butterfly on a sheet and we had done like four or five of them and we taped into tables, just the outline to tables, and then we had paints and paint brushes provided and we divided the group into four and then they were able to paint their own butterfly. It was Butterflies, if you don't know, Butterfly's propanean is known as Homer the Mama butterfly. So it was kind of theme-based for our area also. And they were able to paint however they wanted. They could do whatever kind of design they wanted to do on the butterfly. So it was totally kind of up to them. If they didn't stay within the outline, they must find you. They did whatever they wanted. They were able to take the butterflies back to their organization or if there was some individuals there, they took them home. And of course we kept one of them to display at our library. So that was also one that was very successful. During the summer reading, usually you have quite a few crew centers. That comes to your library that presents for summer reading. And we had some very good resources for presenters that we were going to use for a friend's program. These presenters we knew had understood this audience and were able to come in to work with our special needs adults. And present programs that would be in hands-on program that didn't have a lot of talk to it. Usually it was something that they would be very interested in. One of the presenters was from the Papia National Resource District, which is an organization that does some rescue of reptiles, owls, and does educational programs throughout the state of Nebraska. We had a wonderful presenter, his name was Austin, and he really understood the audience. He had patience. He brought humor to the group. And he also brought snakes and reptiles. And there were participants in that audience that actually knew as much as Austin did about some of these reptiles. They were able to hold the snakes. They were able to handle things. It was just incredibly fun. And it was also incredibly funny because some of the things that were said within this were historic. Wanda, I was going to ask that picture. I thought that picture on your very first slide looked like she had a snake around her neck. I was wondering about that. Yes, she did. That was exactly what he was going to ask about the program was. Amy and I were standing back in the corner, more afraid of these snakes than any of our producers. And this is one of the small, because he had a very large snake that they just kind of make out clear across their lap. Wow. Very brave of them. Braver than me, yes. Some of our other programs that worked really well, we brought in therapy dogs. And of course, anything that had to do with dogs and being able to touch dogs is always a wonderful program, no matter how old you are. Before the dogs came in, though, we did a small craft. And that craft was where we may actually need dummy treats. Many of our adults had pets at home, so they were able to take the treats home. And many of them just donated them to the dogs that came as the therapy dogs. And this was really good, because I can't remember the lady's name, but the woman that had the therapy dogs gave a lot of, showed them how she trained them, showed the participants the things that the therapy dogs could do. They were very involved in the therapy dogs. They were able to touch them. They were able to pet them. So that was a really successful program, also. What we did, we did a contract with White Arts for one program. So Lisa from White Arts came out and she did a watercolor program. And this, again, was a situation where she gave instruction. They listened, they followed. It was a hands-on program. Nobody needed to design anything special. It was just learning about watercolors and the different things that you could do with it, and the different techniques. Very fun, very fun. But of course, you always have those programs that don't work. And we were thinking these would be, this would be the most wonderful program ever. And it was, and we called it, let's explore science. Well, science has all kinds of different components. And so we were really thinking that this would be so successful. Well, the problem with this, this program was basically, we had it set up with two different kind of science projects. One of them was that we put baking soda and vinegar into a, like a bottle and put a balloon on top. And then the balloon was supposed to blow up. And then we could see the chemical reaction going on. Well, it worked pretty well, but it involved a lot of pouring ingredients into a bottle, giving the balloon over the top. There was a lot of different, different things that went on during that period. But once you had it done, and you put the balloon on top and it blew up, and the balloon blew up, then basically that science experiment was over. So it went very quickly. And we saw that this was a, this was a situation that was over five minutes. So of course we did it again. And it went very quickly, five minutes. So we tried to, we talked about the experience, and we talked about the chemical reaction. But the fact is we did way too much talking. There was not enough crap, there was not enough experiment in it. So we weren't prepared really for that. Plus then we decided part of the science project was that we would go outside. And that transition period for special needs situation is sometimes kind of, it takes a long time to go from one place to another. So transitionally we got outside. It happened to be a very hot day. And we were going to put Mentos into a soda, like a big huge liter of Coke. And watch it explode. Got out there. That's what we did. It exploded. It was over. We were done. And we had probably only used up maybe 20 minutes of our time. So that one didn't work too good. Because it went too much. It went really too fast for us. And there was too much transition. And of course we lost. We lost a lot of momentum. Well, we just didn't do it well. So anyway, there was another program that didn't go too well, which we thought would be immensely fun. And it was on K-1s. There was a small component of that program that went really well. And that was we got into a relay race. And we won. And that was fun. It made us laugh. We held on to these together and a lot of liked K-1. But after that Amy and I did a lot of talking. And we had gotten a talk from Henry Doherty Zoo with all kinds of penguin pair of million. It had an egg and it had feathers and had pictures of different penguins. And it was not enough hands on. And it was way too much talking. We did have a video that we thought would be wonderful. And of course it worked really well. But when the group arrived, we couldn't get it to work. Of course on those two programs that didn't work for us, we always had that one thing that we knew that we could pull out of a hat. And that was we could always dance. So we always went back to the dancing when we had a lot of time to spare because that was a party. And so that was something fun for us to do. So if it didn't work, we'd still dance. I have a friend that is in the Hastings-Balk library. And she contacted me and she wanted to start a program like this. But she didn't know really how to get started. But she had a group that came into our library on a regular basis. And so she just pulled out puzzles and that kind of thing. That seemed to be working with her. And that was just a beginning of starting to build a relationship. And I'm sure that along the way she'll continue to build on that program. But sometimes you don't have to have a complete program to actually start something with your special needs adults. They're just pulling out books that might be interesting in magazines or just like a puzzle type thing. Some of the benefits are kind of what we learn from friends. Wanda, can I just interrupt for a second? As we started to do this, we felt like we were adults. Can I interrupt for a second? Hi. Yes. The slides. You may. That's okay. We're still on the slides that I'm seeing here. It's still the one with the Mardi Gras picture. Is that correct or... That's fine. Okay. I didn't know if there was... You don't really have a one. So what I'm still talking about is kind of still on that slide. Not a problem. That's what I thought. Yeah. I just was double checking to make sure nothing had frozen up on our end. No problem. Go ahead. We don't know why you need to have to look at a lot of slides that say all the stuff that... So we made it short and sweet. Perfect. No problem. Go ahead. What we learned from our family friends is they felt more comfortable with us and they were more approachable when they would come in. So it was easier for them to ask for things, ask for output computers, maybe ask for books that they might be looking for. They also started to come to other adult programs. And as before you might have heard, Amy was the community outreach and she did adult programming and during the summer she did a lot of hands-on type programs. And we found that there were a lot of caregivers that brought their adults with special needs to those programs. And that was really... That was just so wonderful. Because we used some of our adult programs where we made hand cleaning, we made candles and they were able to do that. So we also created a relationship with the caregivers and they also would ask us more questions and it was easy for them to come with us and say, can I bring along my child or something so they can be involved in that program? We had way too much fun at the library with our special needs. Adults, we laughed a lot and we also learned a lot. So it was good for us. It was a program we brought to them but the learning component turned around to Amy and myself. It was probably the favorite program of all times that we did every month. Amy, it was of course her very favorite and she was doing adult program. You never felt really nervous when you did it. You were just kind of one again. It was just very fun. We became more engaged in the community. Even those who didn't necessarily work with adults with special needs or have someone in their family were asking us questions and they said they appreciated what we were doing. So of course we love to look good. So that's kind of where we were. Here are some of the considerations. We can't tell you what is right or wrong to do because we're not authorities on any of this subject. But these are what we found to be some of the things that we had to consider in doing this program. And we learned this probably from the very beginning and we learned this from talking to organizations and individuals. The ability levels are huge. So your programs have to accommodate all the different levels that you might have in one group. So it's very important that you don't have any restrictions on what something should look like or especially in a craft situation. It doesn't look like this. It looks like whatever they wanted to look like. So we have a lot of different ability levels. You're working with not only organizations but individual patrons that might come into your library. One of the things that we found is that you can't always base your whole program in believing that that organization is going to bring 10 people and they're going to show up and not really go out and look for other special needs adults within your library and within your community. Working in an AIO message on our end. Can you guys still hear Wanda? Yes, we can. No problem. Sometimes that pops up just letting you know you're having some connectivity issues. I'm Nancy Jonah and can you still hear us? Yes, we can. Sounds coming through fine. Okay, thank you. Okay, that we get on my train of thought here again. Of course, privacy is always an issue here. In libraries, of course, privacy is always an issue and it should always be right up there at the top. Some of the things, as you can see, some of our photos. We had to go out and get photo releases signed by everybody so that their photos could be shown. That was really important for us but with the organization, it's not quite as easy to get all those signatures. We had to actually work very close with that organization that came into our library to make sure that we did not show somebody in any of our pictures or without their permission. We also have, you know, there's all kinds of different health issues which brings in some of the things that people may be allergic to. Which any more, if I can have a day of clients, but it's very important that we are aware of that. One of those, of course, is good restrictions. When Amy started researching this, I can remember how excited she was because she wanted to do a lot of things that were food-orientated. Like nutrition or she wanted to do a segment of apples and she wanted to have them taste different things. Well, right away, a lot of individuals told us, uh-uh, can't do that because there's a lot of problems with diabetes, with allergies, quite a few different food restrictions. So we kind of left off that. We didn't want to worry about that issue at all. So we kind of left food out of our program. Another thing we had to think of is, will we be required caregivers to be there? You know, again, Amy and I were not set up to really understand all the different needs that were required of our participants. So we did require caregivers to come with the adults. Although we did have an organization that came in, they did bring two to three caregivers to help out. And that was really important because we did group craft and we needed that kind of help. But it's really kind of funny because even the individuals that came with their family member or the individual patrons, they were always willing to help out with as many people that we had that we needed help with. Wanda? One of the other considerations. Wanda, can I interrupt? Yeah, we do have actually a question about the caregivers there. Hold on just a second. Michael, you're unmuted. Yep, am I coming through? Yep. Yeah, you just kind of touched on that. But my question was, you know, the caregivers that came along, did they, and the answer might be varied, but did they more participate along with or were they there to help? You just kind of touched upon that. That was kind of my question. Did they participate in the events and the programs or just help out? Okay, if you can hear me, this is Amy. Sorry, I've learned this right now. The caregivers were very present. They participated even when we did that at Penguin Relay. Everyone participated. And we helped, you know, if we were doing a project with three adults that they brought with them, but they were willing to be an extra set of hands to help with the other adults who may have needed us. Great, thanks. Cool. One thing about the caregivers is they never, we never had to ask them ever to help. They are there to have a good time also. And participating was something they wanted to do. So it was never, we never asked for help. They just dug right in. They were part of the program. One of the other considerations you have to go with is staff time. Is this a adult program? Is this under youth services? Is this under adult programming? What kind of, you know, there's a lot of staff time required to get the program off the ground. And then you can't go in there with one staff member. You at least need to, and depending on the size of your group, maybe even more than that. So that is also a consideration. And of course that goes into cost, which is going to cost to facilitate that program. And as far as staff time goes. We had such good caregivers coming and such good presenters. As you can see in the picture in front of you, it's Austin again with snakes around the neck. And so it was really pretty easy for us. And we hope that you would have that same type of program and helpers that might come to you also. If you are considering doing a storytime format, I would definitely suggest contacting Sarah Winger. She has wonderful program plans. But some of the things you might want to think about are when choosing books, you may want to choose realistic fiction or nonfiction books. Oftentimes those tend to go over better with the group. They're understood better than the adults can relate better to the content. And especially when you're looking at nonfiction. They can just relate to a better than a story that he has a child and it has the main protagonist. That was a really big consideration because when you brought forth that literacy component to the organization, they were pretty specific about not having those children's books. So also it's not something that I can tell you that you would never want to read it or if you're worried. I believe that that is too much talking time. So it's something more that it would be more for a visual effect. The next slide is on sources of information. As you see in the picture, that is without therapy dogs. Why arts? We kind of touched on that a little bit. It's an organization that brought art into Omaha and they do programs. Art is always something that I think that would work so well in a program like this. They not only did a lot of hands-on with play with all different kinds of media. And so I think that finding somebody that an artist collaborative or something that has through with arts is a really great program that you can incorporate into a special needs adult program. Olive Web which is a national organization. That's something that usually that you can find if you Google it. There may be something in the area. They're a wealth corporation and also funding. They love to fund. They love to give information. And then also the book club. And so they're going to be able to give you a wealth of information. Of course schools, the schools in the area, they're always a really good source. I think that more than anything we found that there are so many organizations that want to help you and you're so excited to see a program. Parents are really excited to be able to bring someone to a program like this when I dealt with a special need because you see them in the library all the time and it's really nice to incorporate them into your organization. Local businesses are money wise. They give small amounts of money for gift cards, that kind of thing. So find some local businesses. All you have to do is incorporate it into your elevator speech about how wonderful your library is and you will find a lot of sources that want to help out with a special needs group. Disability and awareness and support groups in your community are always aware. OX is an action partnership. It is another really good organization that you can contact. And then of course occupational therapists are always willing to come to your aid. And as I kind of touched on of course funding, funding is always vital. All you have school foundations, local businesses, women's clubs or civic organizations. The Nebraska Planning Council on Development, Autism, Abilities and Grants. That is a Nebraska specific organization you can find information about online. There are similar planning councils and grants available in color states. And then corporations. Funding I think is kind of vital for this because you have to use some of your presenters requiring a small stipend. There's a lot of craft involvement with this. So that's very important. And you'll find that a lot of businesses will also give you money for crafts or donate crafts to help you out. So basically I think that you have to do a lot of groundwork for this program. But it's really a fulfilling program. I think it brings a lot to our library. It's still asked for. So we have capital lists of email addresses that we can notify anybody as soon as we possibly can. So I think it's a really, it's a very good program that libraries should definitely invest in. As you can see here's a butterfly. That's a butterfly review. More than anything else, we can't tell you what's going to work in your community. What the adults in your area are going to be interested in. But I hope what you can learn from us is just not to be afraid to try to put yourselves out there. Not only will these adults benefit, but the entire community has a whole new benefit. And you will learn a lot as well. This was extremely fulfilling. It was an extremely fun. We loved every minute of this. And I'm so glad that we did it. At this point, you know, we have just a couple of minutes left. If you have any questions, if there was anything we did not go into detail about that you wanted some more detail, please let us know. You can also always email us and we can give you more detailed descriptions. I hope you guys can hear me. I'm so sorry. I couldn't talk so much today. No, not a problem, Amy. You're coming through just fine, I think. I can hear you just no problem. So thank you very much, Amy and Wanda. That was very cool. Lots of great information there. I do have a question and some coming through here on the GoToWebinar. So if you guys do have any questions out there, type it into your GoToWebinar interface in the questions section. Or if you have a microphone, just ask me to unmute you and you can ask your question that way. One question we do have that just came through. Have you ever thought about having a volunteer program with adults with special needs wanting to volunteer at the library? Absolutely. We actually already have that in place. Currently we're working with the school systems with some of their young adults who are about to age out of the program. They came in regularly to show in the mornings. They primarily showed our children's materials. They shelved our early readers, picture books, board books, things like that. And we did want to expand that program. Again, it was a matter of time. There was, of course, there's always training whenever you have new volunteers. And when you have adult with special needs coming in, sometimes, depending on their ability levels, you need to follow up more often where some of them do need a caregiver with them all of the time. So there were other revisions that we were working with to make this happen. And there's some transitioning currently going on with some Memorial Library. So that has been placed in schools for a little while. But hopefully that's something that can happen in the future. But I do think it's a fairly viable option. And these adults have wonderful skills. So I would not hesitate to make use of their services and their time. They can be so devoted once they come to love you and your organization. They have a lot. Oh, definitely. Yeah. I do have a question. You said that you got a grant to do this program in the first place. Is this going to be an ongoing program now? Or does that grant continue for you? Or how is that going to go on? The grant was from the Eastern Library System. It has continued now. But at this time, like I said, Memorial Library is going through some transitions, new director and things like that. So all of that is a lot there right now. But I know, speaking for myself, I unfortunately am not going to be longer. But I know that, like I said, I want to have a fantastic time doing this. And it'll just depend on staff time and resources coming forward. I think we will continue for students. Clearly, the givers have come to us and asked us for the program. And even though there's not a lot of patrons that participated, it was more from the organization. We have learned about it. We have more people asking about it. And like Wanda mentioned previously, the other adult program that we were doing, we tried to include more and more interactive elements. And we saw more and more adults especially becoming interested in that program and that regular program. That's right. I thought it was a great side effect, yeah, that it made them come to other things at the library, not the one specifically geared towards them. Going forward, the timing of the program but also possibly changed. We had really scheduled the program time around that organization you were working with. But that also limited the amount of individual patrons who had come to the program. It was a daytime, weekday program. It was a 1030 before their lunchtime. And so that made it difficult when we required caregivers to be present. It made it difficult for those who had nine to five weeks a job to come to that program. So you may want to consider an evening or a weekend program. Again, it just depends on the staffing availability and what we can do. Okay. We did have another question that just came in. Oh, and I'm not sure if you did mention this or not now. Did you market this program for just adults with special needs or could other patrons or children attend if they were interested? I think because it being grant funded for a particular purpose, would that have restricted? Yeah. Okay. So it was just specifically for the adults? Yeah. And like you said, some of the things that way that you would deal with them would be different than how you want to deal with the children anyway. Yes. So we already had in place in our library a sensory-friendly story time for children with special needs. So we already had programming for children already in place. We were specifically seeking to serve these adults who had a difficult time. You know, by 25 they made it out of the school system. And it's really difficult to find other avenues where they can do that same educational and social experience without a high cost one. And we did keep all of our programming free, which was very important. Great. Okay. Anybody else have any other questions? We do still have about five minutes left if you do want to ask any other questions. Well, I wanted to see if there is anything. I will just remind everyone that yes, the show is being recorded and the recording will be available later. You'll all be notified when it's ready. Amy or Wanda, could one of you email me the slides? We can post them up as well. I've had some requests to be able to see slides and your information. So that will be included. And any... We'll do that. Excuse me? I didn't hear that. Can you say that again? Oh, we will send you the slides. Okay, great. We will send you the slides. Great. And for any of the websites that were mentioned, I did look up some of them and found them and included them in our library commissions delicious account. Those links will all be available afterwards as well for anyone. Well, it doesn't look like any last minute urgent questions have come in. But if you guys do have any, you will have Wanda and Amy's contact info is there. I'm sure you'll be willing to answer any questions you might have about wanting to put on one of these programs at your library. Wanda and Amy, any last minute words of wisdom before we wrap up for today? Thanks for listening to us. All right. Thank you very much for being on the show. That was great. And I hope... Yeah, it was a very great program. That's something I've heard of before. And I hope you feel better and get your voice back soon, Amy. All right. So I am going to take back control of the GoToWebinar here. There we go. All right. So thank you very much, everyone, for attending the show this morning. As I said, it has been recorded and will be available later. I'll let you know when it's open and available. It will be posted here to our Encompass Live website down here right beneath where we have our upcoming programs. We have a link to the archived Encompass Live sessions. We post all of our recordings. So you'll have a link to the video recording of the show on YouTube, the PowerPoint presentation slides that they will be sending to me and links to the two delicious ones that I've grabbed already over here. For them, the YR, it's Ollie Webb, and the Nebraska Planning Council on Developmental Disabilities. I'll go through again in season E that I missed, and I will add them as well. So that will wrap it up for the day's show. I hope you join us for our future shows. We've got our upcoming schedule here. And next week is... Anatomy of an Ad Campaign is our topic. Heather Imoff is actually going to be coming to us from Illinois, the De Plains Public Library in Illinois. And they use also grant funds, a state per capita grant fund to launch an advertising campaign promoting the resources at the library. So she's going to talk about what they did there to get that information out to their current and potential users. Also, and if you are on Facebook, please do a like Encompass Live. We have links to pop you over there. We do post on Facebook of upcoming shows. Here we get this loaded up. I post your reminder. Here's your reminder from this morning for people to log in to the day's show. When recordings are available, I post on here. So if you are a big Facebook user, please do go ahead and like us on Facebook. Other than that, let's see here, that will wrap it up for this week's show. Thank you very much, and we'll see you next time. Bye-bye.