 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind pump. Mind pump. With your hosts, Sal DeStefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, Justin, Adam, and I have some fun introductory conversation. It lasts about 44 minutes. We went on for that long. We did. Yeah, we did. We talked about Jerry Belvedere, the mouse. Who is that? He's a friend of ours that lives in here now. Got to find out. We talk about me mispronouncing a word, actually made up a word, mini moles. My apologies. We talk about my keto dinner at the Brazilian Steakhouse. Delicious. We talk about trailer parks and how Adam thinks that's the next place that everyone's gonna want to go. You heard it here first. Invest, invest, invest. Then we talk about the new stupid challenge people are doing on the internet. Side pod challenge. I'm confused by that. Are there some fat burning benefits? Find out this episode. Good one. Then we talk about the lipstick challenge. Justin did that on Adam. Yeah, I did. This is not the rainbow. We won't post that one. Don't worry. Then we talk about eco sexuality. You love the environment. Yeah. What's the last time you flew? Prove it. Yeah. Prove you love the environment. Show us how much you love the environment. We talk about the split of California. Got to love those stupid economic policies. And the high speed rail that we're building here versus the hyper loop. Is it really that fast? Cranks are going to split us anyway. And we mentioned our sponsors. We talked about Thrive Market. We actually opened up a box of stuff for me from Thrive Market. Because they're our sponsor, we've actually hooked you guys up with songs. If you go to thrivemarket.com forward slash mind pump. This is what they're going to do for you. And this is only for mind pump listeners. You get a month free membership, twenty dollars off your first three orders of forty nine dollars or more and free shipping. You basically have nothing to lose. We also mentioned our other sponsor for Sigmatic. I talked about their sleep stick. Drink this before bed sleep like you're dead, but be alive. If you go to four, really effective, if you go to fourSigmatic.com forward slash mind pump, you got a spell for an enter the code mind pump at checkout. You'll get a huge discount. Then we get into the questions. The first question was, look, if our bodies are super adaptable, like we say they are, why haven't they adopted, adapted modern society yet? Like why aren't we adapted to a high sugar diet, not moving that much, not sleeping that much? Like when are our genes going to catch up? Yeah, come on, man. Maybe we should just let people die. I want to eat like shit and be awesome. The next question was, if we're built for survival, then why aren't we craving greens and veggies and fruits and stuff that are good for us? Or would you? Yeah, exactly. Next question. We've all been working out for a long time. Do we still find it exciting and fun? Is it like that first day? Or is it boring now? Our answers might surprise you here. They will. The last question is, what is our opinion on all the hype surrounding vegan and vegan, vegan, vegan, vegan, vegan, why is that so hard to say? Apparently in January, that's why there's this trend where everybody's avoiding meat in January. And what do we think about that? Do we bash it or are we on board? Probably both. Also, it's still January. It's still the month everybody typically decides to get super serious about fitness. I don't believe you, but if you are, if you are super serious, I got a great way to prove you wrong. If you're like, hey, Sal, you're full of shit, man. I'm fucking serious. This is what you do. You enroll in our maps super bundle. It's a year of exercise programming. We're calling it the maps challenge. See if you can complete all of the maps programs as they're laid out in all of 2018. Take a before taken after picture. Show everybody how effective the programs are because they are super effective. It's the super bundle. It's the only program that we know of an existence that'll plan out your entire year. But in January, we've added another awesome thing to this. Sal doesn't believe you can do this. If you enroll in any of our bundles because we have other ones, you're going to get a free t-shirt. Now these t-shirts are phenomenal. They are limited edition. They are very comfortable. Adam wears one to bed every single night. You'll get a free one with any bundle. If you're interested in this, all you have to do is go to www.mightpumpmedia.com and enroll. Let's name the mouse in the studio. That's what I just said. I know. I'm looking at Justin. I'm trying to... Jerry? Because I feel like Justin will come up with the best name. Yeah, for... What can we name the mouse that we have in the studio? That's not original, dude. A little schnauzer. No. What? I don't know. I think I hyped you too much. He did. Schnauzer? Like yeah, a little schnauzy. Let's come up with a name right now for the mouse. I'm thinking... I don't know. I like Belvedere. Oh yeah, that's a good call. I'm going to call him Belvedere. Yeah. What do you think, Adam? Belvedere for the mouse? I like Jerry, man. Little buck. Okay, so Jerry Belvedere. Jerry Belvedere. Jerry Belvedere is the mouse. That's pretty regal. I want to hear what happened. Because we already got one. We got... No, two. There were two that we got. One... Yeah, we snapped one. One... Before that. Wow. I don't know if I was going to admit that on the show. Get a lot of pissed off people about that. But we did eat it later. So the body didn't go to waste. Yeah. So we caught one in a box that Justin... Yeah, I was trying to be all cool at first. But hey, man, you didn't get the message. I wonder if it was the same one. We snapped you. You think it came back? Maybe. So we caught one, then we killed one, and now there's another one. But this is the last mouse standing, and he's a survivor. What did he do, Adam? I want you to tell everybody what he did. Well, Doug got smart and figured out that he liked the peanuts, and we've been buying peanuts from Thrive Market. And so, since we had an abundance of these, which is probably what drew these guys into our studio, Doug decided to double down on the peanuts. And he's now using the peanuts on the traps, and it's been working. But apparently, Jerry is a little more... is smarter than his brother, because he's found a way to get the peanuts off the trap without getting the trap to go off. That's tricky, Jerry. That almost makes me not want to do any... I want to almost catch him and keep him as a pet. Because he's smart? Well, he deserves it. You won. Yeah, he deserves the whole thing. Do you remember the game Mouse Trap when you were kids? I love Mouse Trap. Oh, shit, what are those called? That was elaborate to set up. Hold on a second. There's a name for creating a very complicated... Is it a Rube Goldberg? Rube, Rube, Rube. Yeah. A Rube Goldberg? Rube Goldberg? Yeah, a Rube Goldberg. Rube, Rube, Rube. What is it called? What is it called, Doug? Those big, complicated... Yeah, it's like a Rube... Is it a Rube Goldberg machine? Yeah, it's like Rube. God damn it! I love it sometimes when I'm right. Listen, I got to say something real quick. I'll listen to an episode. I was listening to one of our last episodes and I mispronounced the word so bad. That was... And I fixed it in the episode, but as I heard it, have you guys... It's a Rube Goldberg. Have you guys ever listened to yourself on the show and just felt so embarrassed about yourself that you had to stop? Almost every day. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay, so this is the first time... I listened in moderation. You know what I mean? I have to blast myself all the time, just keep myself in check. So I was trying to talk about how many key tones I had in my urine because I did the peach strip and I said, instead of millimoles, I said mini-moles. I heard you correcting yourself on that. I was like... Mini-moles? So me and my girl... It's like a strip mole. A little mini-moles. Me and Jessica were on our way to dinner last night. By the way, celebrated an early anniversary. We have our anniversary coming up. All right. And we were driving over there and we listened to the episode and I said mini-moles twice or something like that. And I didn't correct it for like five minutes later. Dude, that was so... I got so angry with myself. Did anybody call you out on Instagram? It's a new episode. And so I'm hoping that this one... What for all the scientists? I want this one to get out first. I want this one to get out first so someone will correct me. I'm like, I know, bitch. You can live in my world for a day. You know what I'm saying? Because people love to DM me right away. Let me know. Hey, did you know you fucked this word up? Mini-moles? Yeah, dude, I know that. Thank you. My co-host pointed out right away. It's not a word that... I was there too. It's not a word most people know, so I know some scientists or doctors and be like, hmm. Yeah. Mini-moles? Yeah. They're probably in the lab just... I knew he was wrong. He probably just like... He's such a know-it-all. I knew he was wrong. Dude, yesterday I went to the best restaurant for a keto diet, keto paleo diet ever. Oh, the Brazilian steakhouse? Wow, I didn't know. Of course. That's like... That's when I was on the keto diet. That was like Katrina and I, like every Friday was going down to the Brazilian steakhouse. Oh, my God. It's designed for the keto diet. Totally. We went over to Fogo de Chao in Santana Roa. Yeah. Wow. That is... I still haven't been there yet. Bro. I really want to go. Bro, I had probably... I'm not exaggerating either. I had at least 150 grams of protein in one meal. And you know what the crazy thing is? Easy to do. In that situation. Here's the crazy thing. And I hate talking. You know, I'm always leery of talking like this because I know it's going to happen. A bunch of people are going to become keto, you know, addicts or whatever. But here's the deal. I've just recently switched over. I hadn't done keto for a while. And I ate so much food, but I avoided all the carbohydrates and starches. And I didn't even have fruit. It was just all fats, vegetables and meats. And I ate a lot and I left there and I felt totally fine. Normally, I would leave a restaurant like that after eating that much and I'd be bloated or painful or whatever. No, man, I came home and I felt good. Had sex and everything. You know what I mean? That's the trifecta. Yeah, because normally after a meal I'd go like that. Justin and I went and had famous Dave's yesterday without you guys. We did. What's famous Dave's? It's like armadillo willies or dickies, like a barbecue place. The chain came from Chicago. I was actually pumped when it came out. It's in... Off Kirtner. Yeah. The Monterey goals. The plant? Yeah, the plant. It's right in there. You guys always wait until I'm gone. That's what we did. I'm like, what the fuck is Salif working at? Want to talk? Want to talk? I say, Justin, you know what? Fuck that. The company's taking us to lunch. I had to go on our own diet. I'm just kidding. You guys had fun, huh? Yeah, of course. Of course. We had them always. I don't get jealous because you guys have your own little friendship that you guys do without me and stuff. We have something special. Me and Doug hang out a lot, so it's all good. You know what I mean? Fine. Hey, I'm going to take a left turn on you right now. Listen, you guys are always taking off without me, so whatever. We do. That is true. That is true. That is true. Left turn real quick. I've been, I don't know where I read this, right, but this was recent that I saw this, that there's this kind of new emerging market that's happening right now with these small homes. Now we've seen it and we've talked about the minimalist homes before. Now you're talking about like small- Molecule homes. Are you going to want small cholos or small houses? No, no, no, no. Actually, trailer parts. Small homes. Small homes. Dad joke. Oh, I got to throw them in every once in a while. You didn't have a lot of mulligans lately. A lot of mulligans going on over here. He's pushing it, so. Hey, let me introduce you. We're going to have to let that one ride. We have to play ball on that joke. Let me introduce you to my small homes over here. He's small, buddy. Hey, I got your back. No, I mean more like trailers. So even people like Warren Buffett are invested heavily in this right now, which is these trailer parks are becoming the new thing where you go because of where the market is in housing. They're going to get expensive. The average, well, yeah, they are. They're smart. They're buying up these trailer parks and they're modernizing them, right? So they're making them cool trailers, but they're making them kind of hip, like complex. That's interesting that's taking off because when I was going to buy a house, like this is right at the, like right after the market really crashed, I got kind of lucky going in, but I was talking to one of my friends and he's like, dude, why don't you just buy a modular? Yeah, a modular home. And I'm just like, well, get the fuck out of here. So why would I do that? And I guess it was picking up steam even back then, but has, you know, got to this point. It's trendy. It's not trendy. It's actually, I think it's, I think it's here to stay. Oh, I don't think it's not going to stay. I agree with you. I think it's trending in the sense that it's, I can see it. Oh, definitely. So I think it's brilliant. I think it's smart. So I had a girl I dated years ago who lived in a trailer park and she had a modular, but it was beautiful. It was like a hundred. I think she bought it for like a hundred grand, but it was like a three bedroom, two bath, like modular that was put together and the house was all modern and looked really cool inside. But she lived in like this trailer park type of a community that I felt was like real old and retired. There's all these like, yeah, like people have a certain perception of a trailer park. So what these guys are doing and what I think is brilliant is they're just changing the image of it. Instead of it being just drawn, appealing to the old, older population that's retired, making it more hip and more cool to where they've got these little, you know, like when you go to an apartment complex and they've got... Like full sets of teeth. Well, pool, a pool and like a basketball hoop and things that, things that you would want in your apartment type complex. These trailer parks are, they're remodeling them. They're buying these old rundown ones, buying the whole thing out. Cleaning house. Yes. So can I tell you my dream? If I, well this is, if I didn't have kids, this would be my dream. Sal has a dream. If I didn't have kids, I 100%, not making this up. I've talked about this so many times with people close to me and me and Jessica even talked about this and she would be super down. Can't do it because I got kids and all that. But I would for sure be one of those people that buys a fucking motor home, lives in that shit and just travels around and shit. Does that all the time? I could see you doing that. I would love to do that. You know how awesome it would be to have like very minimal, like physical possessions? You invest your money so you're set and all that stuff. I would get old for me. I don't think so. I love how he's silly. You know how awesome it would be to have like nothing? You know how cool it would be to have nothing and drive around and have like, like, no, actually, that does not sound cool at all. I think it would be, it would be great. You could travel like a mini tour with our band and I got frustrated after this week. Bro, you could trap, you could live on the beach for a second. You could live in the fucking mountains. You could drive over here. Sell it, brother. Sell it. It's like you're in your hippie spirit. I love it. It is. That's you. It is. A whole 14 days of that would be more than enough for me right there. And even that's pushing it. I think seven to 10 days of living the minimalist lifestyle. And you know what? And I know there's someone who's listening who totally agrees with you. There's for sure people out there that, and I believe, I have to do it occasionally. I believe as a group, right, we do over-consume. They have too much shit. Yeah, we do have too much shit. I have too much shit. I'll be the first to admit it. 100% have too much shit. But I also, value a lot of the shit that I have too. You know what I'm saying? And I like having those things. And I do get usage out of some of the things. But there are some things I do believe are wasteful. But I also believe that's part of growing and evolving and learning about yourself too. I think you only make that mistake of wasting money on a thing one or two times. And then you start to realize like, you know what? I really don't fucking use that. What am I doing like that? I would never go run out and buy a quad again because I've got a $10,000 quad that sits in my living room, right? That doesn't even get driven anymore. And it's selling such a brilliant idea when I bought it, you know, seven years ago or whatever it was. Are you going to sell it? No. I won't because you know why? Because I won't get nowhere near the amount of money that I've put into it. That's more than zero. Right now you're getting zero for it. Yeah, but if you, a quad like that you can find online used even though mine has really low hours and has about five, six grand into it. And it's already brand new and $8,000 quad. I wouldn't even get six or seven grand for it. So to me... Well, whatever you get is more than what you're getting now. That's the way you got to look at it. That's a stupid way to look at it. You think why? Because I know me at one point I'll be on Pismo Beach again and I'll have wanted, I want to drive it. Rent it, rent one. No, you can't rent one like mine. Oh, okay. Well, if you're going to use it that's different. But a lot of times what people will do is so I can't remember the name of it. There's a term for it in economics and it's where people make this, they use this rationale and it's actually, economically speaking, irrational but it feels rational. So for example, if I go to a movie and I pay for a ticket and it's $10, $10 ticket and I sit down and I'm watching it and 30 minutes later I'm like, this movie fucking sucks but I already paid for a ticket so I'm just going to watch all of it. That's irrational because you've already spent the money. The money's already gone. No. So you're not, it doesn't change anything the fact that you're sitting there throughout a movie that you don't like. In fact, you're actually wasting your time. Right. I think the rationale that you have in it so let's, you know But if you're going to use it Absolutely, this is the way I look at things. Yeah, but what if I don't for another year? Is it what I still, I still think it's a smart. No, no, no. Because if you, if you rent something like that even though you couldn't rent something as nice as that but even the lower models are still costing you $250 an hour. You know, so excuse me, $250 for like four hours. So if I did something like that all I would have to do is in my lifetime use it for five days over the course of the rest of my life. And I've pretty much Right, that's what I mean. If you're going to use it, it's fucking worth it. Totally. Have you guys seen the new trend that's all over the internet right now? On what? Trend. A lot of trends. Oh, okay. So throughout most of history kids, teenagers have done stupid shit. Oh, I know what you're going to talk about. Are you talking about the things put in your mouth? The fucking the dishwasher tie pot. Yes. I'm so glad you brought this up. Katrina told me about this last weekend. I forgot to bring it up. Yeah, Justin. What? It's a challenge for me. Okay, it's the ones we get. Do you use these? I use these. Yeah, so I use the generic version of them but I know what they are. Yeah, you've seen them before, Justin. They're little gel pods. Maybe Doug can look it up on YouTube, put the Tide Pod Challenge or something. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. For the dishwasher. Yeah. They fucking eat them. No, they don't eat them. Why? The challenge is to put it in your mouth and keep it in your mouth for as long as you can without it breaking. Right, so. Yeah. That's ridiculous. Yes. Why would you do that? It's totally stupid. Doug, can you find that? It is the Tide Pod Challenge. Tide Pod Challenge. Why? Why do people do... Why? I don't get it. You know, I remember being a stupid teenager and coming up with weird things like that but this one is just... Look how many videos there are. The Tide Pod Take, the Tide Pod... Wow. A lot of people are doing it and then there's videos of it exploding in people's mouths and then they're spitting it out or whatever. Getting all sick and everything from that. Do you know the potential shit you could do to yourself with one of those things? Well, you're drinking detergent. You could completely burn the inside of yourself. Can I watch one? I haven't watched one. I want to see exactly what they say or what they do. They're a short one. Watch the top view one maybe. Someone reminds me of when I was in junior high and it was popular to push on somebody's chest to make them pass out. Make them pass out. You remember that? Yeah. I couldn't believe kids were doing that. This is a fucking grown-ass man doing it. What is he doing? What are you doing, you asshole? Well, somebody at work needs to slap him. Well, he's got 260,000 views. That's what he's doing. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Because back in the day you would do something stupid and you would get attention, right? Yeah. And these days it's just amplified because of media, social media, whatever. So fast forward to the end, Doug. I want to see it blow up in his face. Yeah. It's almost the end. It's a short video. Oh, no. He's talking about it. He's talking shit about it. He's not going to actually do it. Again, a grown man. Put it on one of them kids. He just totally faked us on that. Yeah, he did. Yeah. I think he's just talking about how bad it is and all that stuff. Tide pod challenge. Oh. She's trying to eat it, bro. She's like chewing on it. No. People are chewing on it. Why? Are you sure it's not that they're eating it, bro? Why? No. It's definitely in her mouth. Oh. She's not. Are you sure it's not to just eat it? Let's look up what is the tide pod challenge. Doug, if you don't mind looking that up and then letting us know. What is she doing? She's like convulsing. Dude. Oh my God. Yeah. Stupid. That's so funny. You brought that up. Katrina was sharing that with me last weekend. She's like, you see what all these kids are doing? I'm like, no. She's like this, the tide thing. You know what I think? You guys watch this. It's like, I forget what the name of it is, but basically these girls, they'll put lipstick on and then they go to eat something and then they make some stupid face. And they get like millions and millions of years. What? Yeah. Yeah. I don't even know how you search that. Okay. Maybe we'll make Drew do this. What? The tide pod challenge? Yeah. You know what we do? What? We make a fake one that's full of like protein powder or something. And then we like, we peer pressure the fuck out of them to do it, just to see if we can. And then afterwards, it's just protein powder. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's like when you like, you know, there's movies where they make, what movie was it where these guys were being hazed? They were trying to get into a fraternity. Oh, the brick. Yeah, where they tie the rope to their dick and then they throw the brick off the bridge. But then the rope is too long so the brick. That's Home Depot. It's, I've made some things to do. We're streaking. Yeah, that's that. Yeah. Yeah. Like I think the name of that right now. Come on, Justin. Old school. So the Tide Pod Challenge is a viral phenomenon where people bite into the Tide brand laundry detergent. See? Oh, I thought they were supposed to just keep it in their mouth. No, no, they bite it. Why? Why? I don't know, dude. Kids are dumb. That's why just kids are dumb. Yep. Yep. That's exactly why. There's no other explanation. There's zero explanation. You know what's weird? Thinking of something as ridiculous is that how it could, how it takes off and people start doing it. Like who was the person? Who was the big famous person that actually got the momentum going? There was somebody big who actually had to get that going for it to go viral. Because this doesn't go viral with a bunch of kids that have 100 followers share it. That's not how this works. Somebody with a large enough following decided to do this stupid challenge and it's gone huge. So, oh, here's the lipstick challenge. What's it called? What's it called? I wanted you guys to see this. Oh, I've seen this. It's popular in Asia. So, we talked about this where you do the lipstick challenge or the lollipop challenge where, so what they do is they put like a lipstick on and he's got to taste, he's got to guess the flavor, right? So, she kisses him and then she's got to figure out what the flavor is. This is literally all that happens. She put lipstick on, right? Yeah. Make some weird face and then like eats. That's the whole thing? That's it. And it's to do what? To show you that the lipstick doesn't come off? I have no fucking idea. I was trying to see if you guys know. Why? Why is this so dumb? It's like, it's so dumb on such a dumb level. I'm fascinated by it. Yeah. See, Adam, I don't know, buddy. I think the whole viral thing, it's how dumb you can be. Sometimes it's unexplainable. No, it is. I'm telling you right now. How many views? There's some dumb famous girl that did this first. You get like five, ten million views. Yeah. I don't know. Whatever. Anyways, whatever. That's stupid. Let's come up with a like contribute positively to society challenge. You'll never go viral. You know what I mean? Turn into the ice bath challenge. Do a good job challenge. Don't be an asshole challenge. Let's start something like that. Don't be an asshole challenge. Yeah, that would be awesome. Be nice challenge. Yeah, be cool to people. I thought our ice bath challenge was brilliant and hilarious and that didn't fucking go nowhere. Nowhere. Dude, it went viral to like a thousand people. For sure. So I'm going to talk to you guys about another thing that I read about today. I actually posted it in my Insta story. Have you guys ever heard of eco sexuality? No. Making love to dirt or what? Yeah. No. Like humping trees. These are people that get turned on by nature. Now, some of it is mild. Some of it is the internet has allowed all the weirdos in the world to find each other and actually have a voice. So it's 20 years ago. Connection machines. So there's a range. There's a range of eco sexuality on one side. The kind of I'm really into go for hold. That's still kind of weird, but isn't isn't terribly weird is that, you know, sex toys are made out of eco friendly, you know, okay. That's all right. And or I like to have sex in nature, which is just, I just placed that in the category of just like to have sex when people are to have sex in nature. Yeah. She'd like to have sex. Then it goes all the way to people who fuck nature. Yeah. So like, let's violate mother nature. Like dudes, banging trees or the ground girls. Splinters. Grinding on. Yeah. Like and there's and I was reading this article on it and because it's fascinating. I wasn't Googling it brings a whole new light to tree hugger. Right. Tree fucker. Yeah. It all starts with a hug. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. They're talking shit to the tree. That's going to be my favorite tree. Yeah. How much do you want? Why don't you fuck it? This is my this month. I'm using that's going to be my jab for now on the my on social media trolls fucking hashtag tree fucker tree fucker. You are. What are you some kind of tree fucker? He's a good tree fucker. Hey. Talk about one uping someone, right? Yeah. You're at it. You're at a, you're like I had to save the earth like convention or whatever you like at all these people. Yeah. And you're talking to the guy next to you like yeah man. I fucked this tree. We're like we need to protect the earth. You know what I mean? He's like yeah. I'm like what do you do? Do you hug trees? Like yeah. I like to hug tree. I sing to him sometimes. It's not enough man. Yeah. You got to make love to the tree. You got to stick your dick inside it. You got to. You really love nature. You got to love nature. Yeah. Do you really love nature? So is it really? I mean is it really a thing at the level where people are doing this? Here's the thing about humans. Oh my God. Here's the thing about humans. If stuff like that doesn't prove to you that we're just complex fucking apes. Yeah. That we're sexual apes. We have these instincts, but we're so complex that we can distort it and you know direct it into like weird ways where some people get turned off. There's a category of people that fuck machines and fuck cars. Yeah. There's a name for it. You got people to fuck nature. People fuck cars. People who are being, it's a bunch of weird shit man. Like where though? Like the exhaust? Yeah. Like I'm just, I'm thinking physics. Yeah. That's all. Hey baby, turn the car off and I'll tell you. Whoa. Hit the gas. Yeah. Anyway. Well I mean I think almost every 17 year old boy's fucked a sock or a fucking mattress. So I mean it's not that much different right? Yeah, but here's the difference. You're not, you're not fucking the sock or the mattress. Like you're trying to fuck the sock. Like you're fucking the sock. You're envisioning your girlfriend or you're envisioning some hot chicks. It's just, it's just something to put your dick inside. You're not looking at the mattress like, oh man. Yeah. I don't want to fuck that mattress. Well you know, so is it, that's what I would assume these guys or girls or whoever is doing this. No, they're attracted to the nature. That's weird. Yeah. They're vain. They're, exactly. You're weird. Hashtag true. That's A man. You think you're a fucking, you think you love the earth. You don't even know. Yeah. Let's do it. Let's do that shit. Doug, Doug, bring it on, man. Oh no, no. I got more news. Oh, there's more. I got more crazy news. Wait, wait, wait. California. I don't know if you guys heard about this, but they, there's a petition that's been signed by quite a few people that California. Oh, I segregate. What's the break apart into two states? You know, you posted that. Is that, is that a real thing people are thinking about? They've been saying it for a long time. Some joke. It's, it's, it's a real onion article. No, no, it's a real thing. It's highly unlikely. Yeah. Extremely unlikely. There's no way. But I, I'm going to piss people off, but I'm going to say this. I don't blame them. I don't blame them for having that idea. I really don't. For people who live in California, it is the most, you want to talk about gap. It is, there's two, there definitely are two Californias. I could split, I could split it up in even more. But for sure, if you live in California, you're, there's very, very few in the middle. It's either you make a lot of money, you make no money. Yeah. Very, very, very divided. Here's some statistics. California has one-eighth of the population of the U.S. It's a big state, right? It also has one-third of the welfare recipients. One-third. Wow. So of all of the U.S. That's a great start. One-third are in California. It is, it's the poverty rate is actually the, California has the highest poverty rate of any state. And that's all inland for the most part. The majority. If you take out the coast, you take out like the Bay Area LA, like those areas. Yeah. Like it ain't, people are struggling. Yeah. And the, the shitty part is a lot of the policies, most the policies that are passed in California are from these elites that live in these wealthy areas. So they raise, you know, crazy taxes and regulations and we need more environmental stuff. And so let's make it impossible to build a business here because I want, you know, everything to look clean or whatever. In the meantime, real people who don't have a shit ton of money can't, can't even get in the market. They can't even start anything. Yeah. So it's just horrible, this, this huge gap. And so I can't blame, I can't, I don't think it's going to happen. I don't think it's a wise thing. I do think these people need to get in and vote and actually start to make a difference and start to change things. It needs to be a collective change. But yeah, dude, it's, it's, you don't know that stat, huh? No, I didn't, I did not know that stat. That's fascinating to me that there's that, that much of a drastic difference. Bro, and the highest poverty rate, California, the nation. There's also the, there's also the highest poverty. Has the highest poverty rate when you do, when you control for cost of living. So definitely, you know, poverty here earns more than poverty in Mississippi. But when you look at the cost, like everything in California is more expensive. Everything gas, products, fucking your home, you know, everything's more expensive because we regulate and tax and create an environment that makes it just impossible to live here. I remember when I bought my condo, you know, when and back then it was, I think it was 320 is what I paid for it. Yeah, 320 is what I paid for a three bedroom condo way back when, which now would probably go for a half a million. And I remember thinking like, fuck, dude, I just, I don't like paying this much money just for a condo. What if I went to like an hour and a half inland, you know, that's it. Just an hour and a half inland. That would have bought me like a five bedroom brand new home. Sure. That's 3000 to 4000 square feet. It's just, that's a huge fucking difference. Only an hour and a half inland from there. It's where we're at. The Bay is just, Bay and L.A. is fucked. It is, California is, and I'm going to stir it up. California is a fantastic example of shitty economic policy. It's the richest state we've got areas where, with lots of innovation, but for the most part, it's extremely expensive. It's extremely inefficient. California's got this terrible roads, public schools, the state, everything sucks. Nothing has run well. We've, we're spending, I don't know how many billions of dollars on a, on a fast train. You guys know the speed rail? Yeah. I'm putting in quote now because it will literally be the slowest speed train in the country, in the world. It'll be one of the slowest in the world. So it's slow. It's costing so much fucking money. And the people who are building it are connected to the politicians who passed it, of course. So they're reaping all the benefits. And it isn't going to benefit that many people. It's like the railroad all over again. It's a fucking, it's a boondog. It's a clusterfuck. It's an absolute boondog and our state is just a great example of how shitty things are run when you allow politicians to run a lot of shit. It's just terrible. What we need is for them to fucking shrink everything, get the fuck out of the way and let everybody, let the, Do you know very much about that train? I don't know very much about it, but is it, is it shaping up the same way how it was just as how political the whole railroad system was? I heard them talking about it forever, the last five, 10 years. First of all, it's costing us now, I don't know, how many times more than they estimated, of course, that always happens. Whenever government says we're going to spend, if they say they're going to spend $5 billion, you expect to spend at least $10 billion, right? So it's way more than they estimated and the estimate was way high because it could have been done for a lot cheaper. The train is slow as fuck to trains that exist in like Japan and other countries where they have high speed rail. The way the track is being laid out, the places it's connecting, it's not going to benefit, it'll never, it's not going to get back any of them, it's not going to get back the money that it cost to put it all together and we're all, they're trying to make us pay for it with our taxes and all this other stuff. What is, Where is it run from where to where? It's going to be from the bay area down to, I forgot how far south, I think LA. Connecting the two. And how fast is it supposed to go? I don't know the exact speed but I do know that it's very slow compared to other. Well, when you say very slow, I think like 40 miles an hour. Oh, I hear what you're saying. Yeah. No, I'm comparing it to other speed rails. I have no idea what speed rails are. It's got to at least go 100 if it's high speed. Yeah, I don't know. I have to look it up. Let me look it up. Because you're not really saving much time if you can't compete. Yeah, you might as well drive, you know. Yeah, no, I mean, it'll be faster than driving, the highest cruising, high speed rails in the world are around 200 miles an hour. In France, it gets up to 220. Not sure how much the California, let me see here. It doesn't say here. I mean, I'm not going to lie. I wouldn't mind having a train though that connects us to LA because how much we go to LA and if it got us there faster than what it takes us to get to the airport or do all that stuff and for half the price or more than half the price. That would be great. And why hasn't Elon Musk been, you know, advised with this whole process at all? This is why Elon talked about the Hyperloop. Yeah. He talked about creating a Hyperloop because he was just frustrated with the whole. Because he sees what we're doing. He's like, that's stupid. I could do a Hyperloop for one fifth of the cost. What's the difference? Explain the difference. Hyperloop is a vacuum tube with pods inside of it that the technology will allow them to travel extremely fast and it's also very inexpensive. It will be estimated to be very inexpensive. Again, what's extremely fast is like 20 miles faster. I don't know. The standard there is 200. I don't know. Go up from there. That's a good question. I don't know. Because that would be fascinating if you could move this thing at 300, 400 miles an hour. Oh my God. You're like almost G-Force. Well, now you're moving like a plane would move. You know what I'm saying? Now you could get across to a place. That would be dope. That would be sweet. Yeah, I don't know. I saw his plans though for like some of the parking where he had this whole like underground like subterranean like service where you could like you basically park a car and then this platform kind of drops you down into the subterranean part and kind of parks it for you and then you come back. It comes back up. It gets another car. So it's like, you know where you go to parallel park on a city. So now that platform is going to drop you down. Subterranean is going to park it for you. You come back. You have an app that you get your car fished back for you. It was interesting idea. Was that at CES? That was something that I saw a video for. Yeah, somebody show that. That sounds cool. It was pretty dope. I was like, but again, these are such big ideas. I'm just like, oh my God, like he just wants to take on like massive, massive things that'll like revolutionize everything, which that's why I appreciate it about it. Well, I feel like we're due for it. Like when, like it wasn't that. I mean, how long ago what did planes start like commercial flying and stuff? When did that happen? Really started taking off in the 50s, 60s and 70s really started taking off. Before that, we were flying, but that's when the market really started. And then when it got deregulated, Howard Hughes and him, like it was at TWA. Yeah. And then when it got deregulated, it really, it really took off. I think Reagan, if I'm not mistaken, started deregulating the airline industry and made, you know, cheaper airline travel much more possible. I like what they're doing right now with the whole bringing the Uber to the private jet thing. That's really interesting. Is that taking off? Interesting model. I believe it is doing well. I haven't looked, I read an article not that long ago about it and I mean, more and more companies are jumping on board to do it. It's becoming competitive. So, I think that's kind of cool where you can hop on a private jet for a pretty reasonable price, you know, and do it kind of Uber style where you share the flight. Yeah, it's affordable. Right, right. I think that's cool. Now we got the bird coming. The bird is the word. Are we birding or are we opening up a box? We got our Thrive Market Box and unfortunately, Jerry Belvedere got into it early. Did he really? Jerry! Or was it Adam Schaefer? Is this, now we were going to do boxes, individual boxes. She called Newman. Is this an individual box or is this a group? Yeah, this is actually your box, Sal. He's a pest. My box? It's your box. Let's hear what you got. And so I came in this morning and Adam was eating one of your items. You motherfucker. Because I knew it was his box. I'm like, fuck this guy gets to be the first box. I'm going to eat his shit. So first up on Adam's, or Sal's order was Sal Suds, of course. So we got this last time and I used it, I used it to wash my dishes and it's my favorite dish soap ever. So I've been using it. That's why I wanted more. Is it like, what do you like about it? It's Suds, Sal Suds. It just cleans really, really good. It smells really good and it's super pure. It looks like you're getting a lot for your, is it a pretty good price, price point compared to like bottles? I don't remember what the price was on. Both the same thing, Doug, or something different? No, the second thing is children's shampoo. Oh, yeah. So I get organic shampoo for my kids. Yes, that's the move. You know, a lot of shampoos contain compounds that act. Yeah, make your scalp tingling. Well, not just that, but they act like they weak estrogens in the body. So there's been cases where kids will be using these things and then we'll start to have estrogenic effects. So organic compound, organic shampoos are probably better. You know, there's some people that hear that and they roll their eyes. And I would admit that probably 10 years ago, I would have been somebody who rolled their eyes hearing that also. You've grown so much. Expect a lot of the answer. You served that one up nice, right? That was great. No, but really, I would have been somebody like that and I have grown so much and so now I don't. No, what it is now is that it's, we have just become so inundated with. So last night and what makes me think of this is something that I did last night that I would have never done even just five years ago. And that was getting better about turning the Wi-Fi off in my bedroom. Oh yeah. And it's such a simple little thing that I can do that I know cannot be really good for my body to have that running right next to my head next to my nightstand all night long. And to be honest with you, I don't know if it was one of you guys or one of our forum members that shared that study. Did you guys see that? It was actually a forum member. Did you guys see that study? No. Oh, this was very fascinating to me. Because Dr. McCullough has been hammering this for a long time. And here's the thing. If we were to talk to one of our buddies like Lane, it'd be like, well, that's just correlation. We have improved any causation by this yet. Well, okay. Well, here's the deal. That's his voice. What they did was they took they took a bed of seeds and it was like some sort of grot. Yeah. And they and one of them they and they both of them all the same. Same temperature, same everything, light water, all the same. And one of them didn't sprout. And the other one grew to like two, three inches after just being two weeks and a half. Was that so that was an actual study? Was that a real study that happened? So I think it was an experiment that these that these kids did that ended up prompting a study. Interesting. Yeah. And so well, we do know that. I mean, there's a lot of radiation. Now, we're exposed to a lot of radiation all the time. So the argument is like, what's the big deal? Your TV, well, you know, there's a different thing. Well, that's just it is. That's what I was getting at with this whole shampoo thing is, you know, yeah, what's the big deal? I don't think anyone's going to die from using per plus. I don't think it's going to kill you if you were to do that, but it's the it's the compounding effect. There's lots of low dosages of all kinds of different things. And it compiles right. So, you know, you're a kid growing up in this. So this is very different than when we were kids. Although when we were kids, there was a lot of shit too. But if you're a kid now, you have a baby now and that kid grows up and is exposed to these things every single day or multiple times a day 50 years, 60 years. Now there's 60 and they're otherwise healthy, but something boom pops up. It's hard to pinpoint what caused it. It was a combination of a lot of things. But, you know, it's one of those things or should we be getting cancer at the rates that we get at the ages that we get them? You know what I'm saying? I don't think so. I don't think 50 year olds and 60 year olds should be getting... And here's the way I look at it. Instead of being like super hippie crunchy about it, where I'm like anal about everything that I use in my shower and brush my teeth with and why. It's like there's certain things... Don't be anal in the shower. Apparently hippies are into anal. There's certain things that it all like last night all it took me doing. And mind you, there's three phones. I've got two phones, I've got one phone and we have the laptop all sucking Wi-Fi from my router out in the living room into my room. And I'm thinking, you know, it's just me actively turning that off when I'm asleep anyways and not using it. It's not like I'm having to change my lifestyle. It's not a major change. It's just being aware of that and doing that. Same thing goes, I'm not like married. I don't even know the name of my shampoo right now. So using some organic shampoo that's better for me to me. Those type of things make a lot of sense. And I think it depends if it means I can have one more Diet Coke a year. I mean, I think that's going to win. Well, think about this way. Like parabens, which are found a lot of shampoos, parabens have been shown to have estrogenic. So Xenoestrogens are chemicals that have a weak affinity, typically a weak affinity for the estrogen receptor in the body. That in children, in particular, developing body, probably not a good idea. You know, especially young girls who seem to be having their periods at younger and younger ages. Like today, did you know the average age of a girl getting her period like a hundred years ago was around 17? Today, it's like 13, 12. I think that's like all the growth hormone and all the food and all that. It's a lot of stuff. It's a lot of stuff. So anyway, next product there, Doug. Sorry. All right, continuing on here. Drive Market just got like a three minute five minute commercial there. So we got some Pirates Booty and this also got bounced into. This is what I got into. Yeah, you ate one of my kids snacks. So this morning, I was so hungry. I had an interview and I was here early. And so I was like, man, I got to get something in my stomach. I didn't have time to go running to get food. So I dug into your shit. First time I'd ever. They're good, huh? Yeah, really good. My kids love them. Yeah, my kids like love those too. Yeah, the whole the whole bag is is 19 grams of carbs, only 140 calories. And I liked it better than I like cheese. It's not ideal. You know, but if you're going to give your kid a processed snack, that's like a treat that I'll give him sometimes. No, I like it. The bag of macadamia nuts. Yeah, that was that was that. Toad. Yeah. Sneaking. The box was open. What can I say? We also got some other things. Well wrapped. I got to say that about the market. They do an excellent job without their recycled paper. Right. Oh, avocado oil. Oh, yeah. We use that for high temperature for high temperature cooking. Avocado oil is really, really good. Revolution in a box. Super tampons. Yeah. Organic. I was going to tell you you need some of those. That's good. Get that shopping. So those are obviously for my girlfriend. Why? Why is that obvious? Yeah. So feminine hygiene products are many times have chemicals in them because they're regulated like tech like textiles. So the cotton may have pesticides. They may have chlorine in them and you're putting that in your vagina or on your vagina, which is an area that is pretty permeable. You can absorb it through there. So people don't think about that. You're going to use this tampon or these pads all the time. You're better off going with the organic. Oh, that's the other trend happening right now. The coffee enemas. That's not a trend. That's been around forever. Yeah. Oh, no, it's hot and trending right now. It's on the rise again. Yeah. It's on the rise of people. In fact, that and then the and the alcohol straight to the ass, right? That's that's that with the people that drink their own pee. It's like all part of the world more than once. Safe, safe, not synthetic panty liners made with organic cotton. There you go. Sal. There we go. This is obviously Sal's box. Yeah. Going final sound, nothing like this box. Yeah. Next is some L. Theanine. Theanine. I like to take that with coffee. If I'm don't have my camera. And the final thing in the box is some extra virgin organic olive oil. Mm hmm. And this is from California from Napa. Good stuff. Olive oil if you're tying. Yeah. Mandatory. I like to rub that on myself. Just lather everything. All right. We're ready for the bird. Bring on the bird. This was brought to you by Organifi. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition. Organifi fills the gap with laboratory tested certified organic super foods to help give your health the performance the added edge. Try Organifi totally risk free for 60 days by going to www.organifi.com and use a coupon code MINEPOMP for 20% off at checkout. First question is from Skamineski. If our bodies truly are adaptation machines when will our bodies adapt to modern society? Why haven't our bodies learned how to more efficiently utilize excess amounts of sugar, operate on less sleep, etc. When will our genes catch up to the environment? What do they have? Sure they have evolved. Are you kidding me? They have, but it also takes a long time. That's first thing. It takes a long time for evolution to happen. And the second thing is we kind of slow it down because we're not letting people and I'm not saying we should do this by the way. We don't let people die and we don't let people. Wait a second here. I'm going to challenge that a little bit. Our bodies adapt to the level of intake of sugar and things that we do fairly quick. You can be somebody who doesn't feel exhausted right now. We're all talking about how we feel so great right now. Well, none of us probably have consumed over 100 grams of sugar right now. And if we were to go eat 200 grams of sugar, which is not that crazy. That's somebody smashing a box of cookies one day, or half a box or whatever that, which all of us probably in our life have done that at one time. If I were to do that right now, I would be sick to my stomach. But I most certainly could ramp myself up by tomorrow doing 50 grams, the next day but my body will be adapted to intake that amount of sugar and not getting sick. Oh, no, totally. I think what they're asking, though, isn't necessarily that. I think what they're talking about is more like why aren't we healthy in modern society? Why aren't our bodies, why haven't we evolved to do well in modern lifestyle? To handle things that weren't designed to be in our body? Yeah, exactly. Because it's new. It's relatively new. Modern lifestyle, shit, even the agricultural revolution in the grand scheme of things wasn't that long ago. But if you add in processed foods, our lifestyle with technology, that's not even a second in the time of human evolution. So that's number one but number two, to make evolution work, you got to let people whose bodies can't handle it die and the ones that can procreate. We do a good job of keeping people alive. That doesn't mean we're living great but we're doing a pretty good job of keeping people alive in an environment that is suboptimal. I mean, again, I'm not promoting this but if we just let people do what they want and we didn't take care of them, you'd have a lot of people dying a lot sooner and the ones that survived and you throw thousands and thousands of years later all of a sudden now the best diet is high sugar processed food, low activity all these different things that we're experiencing. There are, there are also I feel like when you put it in that when you put it in that perspective of that it is only like a second in the grand scheme of things of all of evolution, I think we've actually evolved quite a bit with the lack of sleep and the ability to consume that much when you look at what just 60 years ago, 100 years ago what did that look like the lifestyle like the go-go and the tech and the stress and the everything that we're doing. I think it's amazing that we have been able to be able to handle that. I think we've adapted pretty damn well in the short amount of time. I mean, it's Well, so stress is an interesting one. Okay, imagine like just envision this for a second. Take somebody from 1910 and just drop them in, you know Well, their head would explode. Right, drop them into Silicon Valley and and tell them to survive for a day and it would just be so overwhelming. I think they'd have a better chance though than somebody from today in 1910. I mean, so when people talk about stress and how stressful it is today, like I want to be clear although we do have a lot of stress, you know, in modern life, I definitely would never trade it for stress that we've experienced in the past. It's different stress. It's different, it's mild and it's not going to kill you. It's not like a lion's going to attack me out of a cave. Or it's not like I might not be able to find food. Your body's still weird. Over certain things like somebody sends you a message via text and you have that same, you know, like stress response that you would otherwise. Dude, it's like today you go home and you're like, oh fuck, work was so stress. I was stuck in traffic and my boss is being a dick and I have to do all these, answer all these emails and a hundred years ago it was, oh my God, we don't have food. We're not going to have food for the next week. There's no way to make money. What are we going to do? Like it's different. Different kind of stress. I'm very concerned over all of these things. As far as being efficient in trying to make our lives easier we've added so many things that now I think it's more of a management issue. So it's like what do I shut off? What do I focus on? Focus is that portion that back then it's like you knew what your job was. You got up, you did this, you did that. It was hard as fuck but guess what? Like you knew exactly what you're doing. Like today it's like oh my God Today, I can say I confidently that I think a lot of people are missing is idle time Like there is no more idle time. You are if you're quiet and alone. You have nothing to do You're still doing something you're still watching TV or you're on the internet or you're on social media Or you're doing something that is very stimulating Versus in the past at the most they'd be reading. You know what I mean? Or they would just be quiet Like they would just be out and it would be alone me by myself. I walked out of the house I'm gone. Nobody can reach me because there was no way to do that and there's hours where it's just me and my thoughts and a lot of Processing and growth happens from that. This is why I think people Love nature so much. You see a song. You know how many people you who are like city folk who go on and I'm one of these People by the way, this is something recent for me where I started experiencing nature the way that You know, I think I should experience it for the first time relatively recently and it blew me away I'm out there and I'm like, this is the most enjoyable rejuvenating thing I've ever done and really it's because I have there's nothing It's just me and maybe another person and nature and I'm with my thoughts and I'm thinking and just Experiencing and growing and we kind of miss that and I think humans have always had that You know, if you look at shit, man, you guys ever you guys ever trip out over the Ingenuity of the human mind when you consider what people were able to do in ancient times Yeah, like like the pyramids how precise they were built and the dimensions and how they you and I were skill set people had back Then is just astounding you and I were just tripping out on this when we were in LA Remember we were looking out at all the skyscrapers and thinking like don't you ever think it's so fascinating like This whole thing that we've created out of nowhere. You know, it's crazy It's but they didn't have modern technology and they understood like there were calendars that were written thousands of years ago That are we're accurate down to like the millisecond in terms of what would happen with constellations the Sun the moon They watched the sky the tight all night long because exactly you got nothing else to do Here's another great example. If you ever want to see how fucking Intelligent and things we can achieve when we have idle time look at what prisoners accomplish in prison Look at the comp. You know that there's there are complicated Economic markets in prisons with drugs and cigarettes and sex and food There are I mean ingenious ways that these people have developed ways to communicate that they've developed weapons and Things it because they got nothing better to do. They're just and these are not necessarily the brightest people in the world I'm sure there's very bright people in there But a lot of them are aren't necessarily and yet they're coming up with these Brilliant things that they're doing are these ways it because they're just they're just sitting there And I think we're missing that so, you know, that's a big one The other thing we should talk about is epigenetics and how you what you do now is also just transfers to your kids Yeah, they're showing that like a if a mother is in a stressful type situation or whatever or her life is very stressful that the child comes out and is more likely to Be hypersensitive to stimulus or whatever and it makes perfect sense when you think of Evolution the sense that the babies genes are getting ready to be born into an environment That is being you know that at that point the best judge of the environment is the mother So if the mother is in this type of a minor environment then the genes of the child are going to develop to be able to Survive in whatever environment they're going into so that's even getting changed aside from just you know The regular genes but as far as you know adaptation is concerned your body adapts all the time But if you're talking about evolution That's gonna take a long time to happen and technology Evolves so much faster than our bodies do that. I don't think the next frontier to interweave with yep With the human race. I do not think the next frontier of evolution is is organic natural evolution I think the next frontier is humans will be evolving themselves through technology I don't think it's gonna be like I believe we're seeing it already Yeah, I don't think you're gonna go a thousand years in the future and see like Humans with super long fingers because we type and you know our bodies adapted to our diet I don't think it's gonna happen. I think we're gonna force it embedded with chips and computers Yeah, we'll build it into us. We're gonna build it into us and force ourselves to adapt that way So it's gonna happen subtly, but it'll happen. Oh, you know what? We're talking about sleep I didn't even tell you guys so I did you have you guys tried the four stigmatic sleep Blend yet the stick. No. Wow that'll you'll sleep like a like you're dead It's a stick you said so it's you know, it's called a sleep stick But it's a like a little you know the long packets that they'll come in. Yeah, you tear off the top and yeah So, you know raishi ashwagandha Theanine and tryptophan so theanine tryptophan by themselves will yeah chill you the fuck out But you throw in some raishi and some which I always I love it. No, no Camemill or melatonin. I didn't add anything. I just had the sleep stick. I did it, you know 45 minutes before bed. Is it like a tea doesn't make you can make it warm you can do a warm it actually tastes, you know halfway decent but I Pounded it because that's how I take supplements. I'm not drinking it for the taste or whatever Slept hard like the kind of sleep where you wake up and you're like, well, did I just fucking wake like did I just sleep all night? Was I in a coma? Yeah, I didn't even see did we get that or did you order that yourself? No, no, we got it and I took it, but you know, we're even cuz you ate my kids snacks I'll give you one but no, it's the it's their sleep stick So for sigmatic what we what I've been using from there is a lot of other individual stuff because I like to take Things by themselves, but now I'm experimenting with their blends. So they have a brain stick They have a sleep stick They have like they have other blends that they do for performance or whatever Kind of cool the way they put them together is really good. So I'll be experimenting with those cool Next question is from Joe Begadona. Yo, Joe If we were built for survival, how come our Palates don't crave greens and veggies that are nutrient dense They do They do they throw you we just threw them the fuck off just confuse them What did you guys crave after your fast a salad, bro? I wanted I wanted vegetables. That was when that was sprouts this is a why I like the question is that I Think I would have agreed with Joe back then and thought the same same way, too Until I experienced like fasting and then dieting extreme dieting where I was restricting for a long period of time For the first time ever in my life that I feel my body crave those things I never crave greens before but I have now and I have and that's just in the last five six years Have I even did I ever make that connection? I just you've been dampening all those signals Yeah, I've been trying to talk to you. Well, you're you're these signals exist And have and were evolved in a completely different environment largely different environment than the one that we live in so I'll give you a good example If you try to give a kid something that tastes bitter, they'll probably spit it out if you give them something that's sweet They'll likely eat it now. Why why do why do kids want something sweet and something and they don't want something It's better and this is largely true for you for adults. Yeah, it's safe. Yeah, yeah sweet in nature sweet usually means not poisonous And in nature bitter usually means or many times means poison Well, you don't think it's also the the subconscious effect that they're getting to that the mental stimulation from the uptake of the sugar Coming into their body, too It could be but even before that happens just this like if you give a kid artificial sweetener or something that doesn't have sugar, right? the taste of sweet Signals something to us now. We can break it down now But if you know humans didn't break it down They just knew that they liked it and the reason why the body evolved liking certain tastes is because those tastes meant something in nature it meant I'm gonna get Certain nutrients or it meant easy source of energy another reason why we like that the sweet taste is because in nature If I eat something sweet, it's probably Packed full of easily digestible and in quick to use energy in the form of fructose, which is nature sugar and Because sugar is relatively rare to come up come across if you know if you're in the wilderness, you're not gonna find Naturally growing fruit all over the place every once in a while you will but it's pretty rare and honey Which is one of the more concentrated forms is hard to come by and when you do come by it You got to get through bees to get to it But when you do get it you eat the fuck out of it because it's it's easy simple energy in the context of survival You know it makes a lot of sense So, you know these these cravings came from evolution The problem is is we've thrown them off your body will adapt to Your environment by up regulating and down regulating receptors for certain things This is true for everything sex is one of them like we all crave sex But if you're thrown a shit ton of variety and sex your way you'll start to crave more and more Novelty and your desires will get more and more extreme versus if you abstain from sex for like a year and Didn't see you know weren't around women weren't around anybody for a long time You know it could be somebody that isn't that attractive It could be whatever and you're gonna be attracted them because those your body's really craving You know that sex same thing happens with food. This is why we recommend happens in prison This is why we recommend people cut processed food out or one of the reasons why because processed foods are engineered and designed to Hijack all the shit and there's no way there's no way if I have if I'm eating all these processed foods these highly palatable foods My I'm gonna lose my craving for greens and veggies and fruits because now I'm gonna perceive them as bland Yeah, you know not attached to you know those those vitamins those minerals, you know It's just it's engineered to to make you you know get that same response But at the same time, you know, you're not getting the fiber and all everything else that's gonna come from nature You know at the same time. No, we focused most of our energy on Can we can this food last a long time in the shelf because that brings down the cost right makes it easy to transport And how good does it taste? That's the two areas that we've invested most this helped us to survive longer You know, we had more abundance of food that way once we figured out how to farm and you know get into agriculture and all that So it's like, you know, what benefited us now is is a hindrance it is especially all the the time money and energy we've spent on taste because now I'll bite into something that's processed and It's causing something in my body that just wouldn't happen. It's not gonna happen in nature. I'm it's gonna The time that I reach palette fatigue palette fatigue is when you're eating something eating something you get sick of it You don't want any more. We've all experienced it where you may not necessarily be stuffed You're just sick of eating that, you know particular same flavor. Well foods that are processed are engineered to Extend that to prolong. Yeah to get to the point where palette fatigue Doesn't happen much later. This is why you can eat a bag of you know cookies Or a bag of you know chips, but if I were to fill a bag up with, you know plain boiled potatoes or You know anything, you know something like that you would eat some of them and then after a while I don't want to I don't want to eat anymore. So You know, that's really what it is. It really boils down to that now Can you get to a point where your body's signals now point you in the right direction? You can take some work though eliminating all processed foods Experience fasting so you know what real hunger feels like you understand that you start to learn now that sometimes I'm hungry Just because I'm supposed to be hungry or sometimes I'm here because I'm bored. So fasting is a great way. It also resets those receptors and then just paying attention To your the signals your body and just through paying attention Those signals then your body will start to make or you will start to make Associations between those signals and the foods that you're eating and actually I was listening to one of our episodes and Adam this was a it was such a great example when we were talking about the fast and I asked you guys how well you're sleeping You didn't it wasn't even something that you had thought of right right and then you started kind of putting it together Now knowing that can you see can you sense how now you're making more of a positive association? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I think that's just it is it I think it takes time. It's not like one time of fasting and all of a sudden. Oh my god. I hated greens now I love greens. It's like each time I fast or any time I I Restrict the hardcore restrict calories in my diet It always kind of teaches me something new about my body and I'm always looking for the pot of things I want to want greens. I want to want to sleep better. I want these things and so I Think it you've got to reframe it for yourself and as you at each time that you do that That's what you're searching for is like, okay, I'm gonna go through this fast Or I'm gonna go on this diet and when I do that like I want to get and that's why I like the fastings In things so much for for a you know craving greens Is that tell you what if you don't eat and try and go as long as you possibly can as many days You can without eating at one point fucking green beans will sound good. They will sound good I promise you I you can hate them But if you go long enough, they will sound good and they will taste good when you eat them. It's amazing I read the other days people always ask me what's the difference between craving and Being hungry and that used to be a very difficult question for me to answer cuz I was like, ah, you know, how do I? Help define that so I don't remember where I read this So I apologize if I'm not giving you credit, but it was a it was one of the wellness experts out there So, you know again, I apologize for not naming you But it was it's the best way of explaining it that I've ever heard When you have a craving You there's a particular type of food that you enjoy for example if you're if you're with your friends and your friends are like Man, I'm fucking starving. I'm so hungry and I say to them. Oh shit. Let's go eat Mexican. No, man I'm not in the mood for Mexican. What about a burger? No, I'm not in the mood for you know what I want I want a pizza. That's what I want to eat. That's a craving when you're hungry and you're legit hungry Everything sounds good anything. Yeah, you put food in front of me and I'm gonna want that I'm actually gonna desire to eat that that is the difference and 100% I experienced that with fasting 100 You could put anything in front of me and I would have looked at it and be like god That looks good. Oh, yeah, the broth and the bus Brussels sprouts that I have to word that was the best broth I've ever had and best bowl of Brussels sprouts I've ever had and I don't think it was the way Katrina prepared it that night I think it was because I was so damn hungry that any and I experienced this when I was Competing so I don't think you necessarily have to fast if that's not your thing But I do believe that you got a restrict and you've got to push yourself to that point where you're that you're not used to because we believe it or not we're all Just totally over saturating ourselves with all this junk and food and even if it's a junk just food period Sometimes you can be a healthy eater But you still are you've trained yourself to eat every two to three hours and so you never really go That long and really understand what it feels like to want some sort of fuel and any fuel Well, it's just a healthy practice to deplete your reserves, you know to just kind of go through that and then you know reintroduce it and I know athletes like I wish I would have known that You know even for performance like just to like restrict and then kind of reintroduce and then get that like Ridiculous energy jolt that I felt after that. It's just like it's amazing and it's funny It's you know as I'm thinking hearing you guys talk You know a lot of growth Happens when we feel uncomfortable a lot of personal growth. So let's use Sadness as an example sadness is an emotion and hunger. I'll put hunger kind of up there. It's a feeling, right? It's it's not quite an emotion But it's a feeling that we have that we don't we don't at all allow ourselves to experience humans in modern Western societies in particular Simply for the most part never experience what real hunger is since we're born. We're fucking eating all the time just bottom line Think about sadness like sadness sucks. Nobody wants to be sad, but imagine if we could never feel sadness Imagine all the growth and learning and stuff without sadness. You wouldn't be happy you wouldn't you need the other all yin yin yin That's why that's why fasting when you fast or that's why when you restrict or you do and that's why fasting I believe why fasting is in every major religion and why they advocate for it The reason why you when you fast you feel sharp afterwards is because you're you're not numb You're it's the opposite of numb You're allowing yourself to feel and there's learning and growth that comes from feeling something And if you never allow yourself to feel real hunger, you're not getting the growth from it So, you know, I know it's turned into a fasting, you know conversation, but Really we have fresh on our mind We have fucked ourselves so bad with our food that are you cannot trust your your body's senses anymore The intuitive nutrition guide talks a lot about this. So if you just want a guide and just want to follow something or have some advice It's super inexpensive. You can find in our site mind pump media comm next up is healthy happy and free You've all been working out for years. Do you still find it exciting and fun? Good question She always has great questions. She does. That's your it's your aunt, right? No, this is not anybody connected to me That's not your aunt. No. Oh your aunt is the other she asks good questions to eat sleep run is my yeah That's why healthy happy free eat sleep runs. That's my cousin. Yeah I love they dominate the cause But I you know what yes and no Yes, and no I there's there's times I still find it very exciting and fun and then there's times I don't Because for me a lot of the motivation behind Continuing for years and years and years of doing it is Because I just I want to be healthier. I want to improve my quality of life And so, you know, I treat it that way and sometimes I do the things that I have to do so I can you know Do the things I want to do later that I take that approach to it But there's still our times that are very exciting for me. I love to set new goals You know, I love to set new goals and and try and push my body to different levels I mean, I think probably out of all of us I probably put myself in the most uncomfortable situations as far as their training and routine and diet So I enjoy that I get a kick out of it. So but it's I don't know it's ebb and flow man Sometimes I'm I'm all about it. Sometimes I hate talking about it Sometimes and it's all I talk about all day long and sometimes I enjoy talking about something that has nothing to do With working out. So yeah, I don't know So as as Doug's reading this question, I'm thinking myself like yeah I always love working out and then I think about when I first started working out When I first started working out, I'm you know, 13 years old 14 years old. I'm working out I started out in my parents backyard and It was There's no words. I fell so much in love with Working out and lifting weights and that and this the feeling I had that I got from it and the ability to change my body through and getting stronger and the science and the the the sport and the history and the it was I'll never have that feeling again. I remember the first time I had a gym membership Or at least to a big gym the first big gym I ever belonged to was the 24 fitness the one on Hillsdale the old one and I remember my mom This is before I even have a driver's license You know, my mom dropped me and my cousin off for our first fucking workout in You know 24 fitness and we walked in there and I had some money on me So I looked behind the counter and I saw the you know, the premixed, you know American bodybuilding drinks. Yeah, and I bought blue thunder and my cousin bought a minnow something 3000 but I remember blue thunder because I looked at all the bottles and I read it and I had the most ingredients I'm like this for sure is gonna fucking awesome one. I remember that so I grabbed this and to me it was You know, it was the promise of what it could do for me and all that stuff But I was just excited that I was could buy this adult supplement in a gym So I buy this supplement we walk in and I'll never forget walking in to the machine area And then seeing the freeway there and just looking at everything and I was so excited to be there I was so I was reading the machines. I Me and him did everything literally everything in the gym We did a workout and then we went from one machine and did two or three sets and went to the next machine I did two or three. We were in that gym for Probably three maybe four hours total. I mean we did every single piece of equipment I got a pump and the pump went away. Then I got tired but because I was so excited It was a completely different experience totally exciting totally fun It reminds me of falling in love when you meet someone and you fall in love But at some point do you that feeling goes away? You can't live like that because you'll die and then you become you have this kind of long-lasting Relationship this long-lasting attachment and partnership and that's where I'm at now with exercise for me I'm no I'd no longer get that same Fucking ridiculous excitement that I you know that I got when I was 15 16 years old it evolved into a mature sort of a process totally and that's totally my same experience where I was very Pumped and motivated to work out. It was it was exciting. It was fresh like I felt like man this and of course like the results were ridiculous in the beginning, you know and like everything I was doing was was making impacts and You know over the years like I just would barbell train like crazy For every sport I was doing because I just knew that I it would translate. I would get more explosive I would get more powerful and You know like people would notice and they'd notice my arms my back and all this kind of stuff I get feedback from it and so it's just like keeps driving it and then you know it was kind of like the evolution of like where I go from not being Identified as an athlete anymore and like how do I now kind of steer my way through fitness and kind of make? You know make this process still something that I enjoy and keep part of my my everyday You know lifestyle and it was easy because I always enjoyed the training part of it So that was something that I just would always kept with me, but you know I did get fatigue over barbell training, and I just I had to do something different and That's the great part. There's just so many different Directions that you could take your body through fitness, and I think that You know if you start to feel that fatigue and you start to feel that Ho-hum kind of energy towards it You know really just just look look into something else look into doing something else That's that that maybe novel even if it's for a couple weeks, you know Just get get that spark kind of reignited Because I mean we all kind of go through that where it's like it becomes a chore or job I didn't get my workouts in I didn't get this in I feel the impact right away If I haven't been working out in a while and I feel like shit And I know that that's like a driving force for me to check myself Like I got to get into it. What what direction am I gonna go this time, you know listening you guys? It makes me remember and here in Sal go back all the way doing as a kid I think that it was really fun when I was trying to piece it together Like the I did I enjoyed the so fun I enjoyed the struggle enjoyed trying to learn I but I really feel like and I'm not by no means am I saying I have figured it all out I'm still learning about my body, but for the most part really understanding grasping You know what my body needs and what I what I need to do to change it a certain way or to build strength or to lean out Or to gain weight to do all those things for the most part I feel like I've put together so I've I've lost the fun in it and I think if Transition into looking at it like more like an investment and sometimes I'm investing heavily into my body and into myself and Sometimes I'm splurging and being irresponsible and I'm totally okay with weaving in and out of that And that I find fun. I find it fun that I can totally Say, you know what right now? I don't have huge fitness goals right now. I'm not trying to compete on a stage I got nothing to prove. I'm not trying to get shredded. I'm not trying to follow some crazy diet right now I'm not trying to figure something out my body is doing. I'm splurging right now, but by splurging to me I'm still responsible because I know that splurging too hard or too long You'd also have a major adverse on my effect and it could also hurt some of my investments So I kind of look at it like that like this every time I work out and I train It's an investment on myself and sometimes I'm just investing enough to keep myself Healthy and in good shape and then sometimes I'm investing very heavy into that and I'm very focused in that arena But I think it's lost its fun like I don't get I don't go to the gym Like this is wow, that was so much fun. I oh my god I never felt that before and I think that you kind of lose that after you've been doing that for a long time And you've kind of figured things out remember the first time because you you and I have a similar History in terms of like we're more from we came more from the bodybuilding side not that I competed but from that world Right. Do you remember the first time you went into a real bodybuilding gym with that felt like? Yeah, what I the last time I remember Expressing something exciting and I actually Justin and I were together and friends and it was before mine pump and why we were working together on level up The last time I got really excited about something was getting in competitive shape because it did take my knowledge to know And I remember him and I would be meeting every week and I come on like problem. This is crazy, dude I'm noticing this and I'm noticing that sharing sharing stuff with him that you know It's all it was all science and all information that I knew but I had never really applied to myself And I had a that was a lot of fun for me competing was a lot So it's not like that long ago that was just a couple years ago that I was competing So I was having a lot of fun, but that's it in order to have fun for me. I need to like Challenge myself in a completely new arena now within fitness then and that was something for me So, you know, but I also don't think I don't think you want that to be your driver because I look at those away It reminds me of people that that let love listening to all these motivational speaker guys like I was just looking at What's his name Andy verse Ella for the first form guys? I sent that over to you to look at it by the way You know and you know listen to stuff and I like the stuff that he's saying But then I think about like all the people that like have to follow and listen to that It's like it's all a lot of the same stuff, you know It's this hype and motivation fucking get your shit together and crying and people that are telling you How bad do you want it? Yeah, yeah It's kind of that stuff and I'm just not a real big fan of that not because I watch it listen to my fuck Yeah, I like I get that same thing affect you, but yeah, it does affect me too positively like that But then I but I'm also very aware that it's it's a false motivation. It's not real. It's not internal It's not intrinsic, right? I'm not the one who's who's doing that and that will be short-lived I think this is kind of the same thing if you rely on the gym to be fun You'll probably stop investing at one point is I remember like the first time I went into a gold I was 18 and I remember walking in and I saw a t-bar row But the like legit one not what the chest pad not the not the weak sauce one But the actual t-bar row. Yeah, and I saw it I got so fucking excited because I'd seen Arnold use a t-bar row and pumping iron. I was like fuck Yeah, they got one. But now I mean now for me. I work out. I still enjoy it. I still like it I I'm extremely consistent. I almost never miss workouts unless I'm on a trip or something So I still enjoy it, but it's not this exciting super exciting fun thing It's just I enjoy what it does for me. I enjoy the process. It can be very meditative And that's pretty much it and I think that's the key. That's the key I don't you know what I think is fun and exciting is that I know that I put the work in and the time in to learn And so I love that I have that tool I feel like I have I have Overall all these years of doing so many different things and pushing myself to different levels within the space It's a very good feeling to have that in my back pocket to know that any time I want I can completely Morph and change my physique. I can make myself feel a certain way I know I have that knowing you have that knowledge there Yeah, the knowledge is there then it's only a matter of applying it in whatever direction that you want to go I like that I find that fun I've been that's what I meant by the splurging thing is I find it cool that I can let off the throttle for a few months and Maybe put my energy towards another part of my invest in another part of my life That's showing me different types of returns whether that be family and Relationship or money and business and I can enjoy all the fruits from that and Be not so heavily focused on fitness and not be scared either that like oh my god I lost all my like ten years ago looking at the way I look and feel right now I would be freaking out ten years ago Knowing what I built my physique up to just three four years ago seeing where it's at and seeing where I'm at right now I would be shitting myself But with the level of confidence that I have in myself and knowledge and experience. It's not a big deal to me I get back whenever yeah, I know exactly what it would take me to get back to at whatever point I want to get to Exactly, you know, here's a good challenge if you're one of those people that needs that kind of motivation and that fun I challenge you to complete every maps program. You'll you'll have at least a year of Right motivation the entire time complete anabolic complete performance out dropping off aesthetic complete like do all of them and That'll get you through that whole like I need to have a lot of fun. Mm-hmm. Next question is from banana Yanana What is your opinion on all the hype around? Veganuary oh my god This is they're just coming up with whatever brilliant brilliant marketing brilliant To name a month and then say here's everybody try veganism for a month You know how many people are gonna fucking try it's blowing up. I've seen so many people on social media Yeah, so I'm on both sides of this right? I really like it and I'm really not a fan of it So I'm not a fan of veganism. I like Movember better But I do I like Movember to but I do like and I and I and I do subscribe to people You know going vegan for a month or trying that I think you I think it'll teach you a lot About yourself your relationship with food. You might notice some really positive effects your body What I don't like and the unfortunate part is I do know that a majority of the people that will go through this Will also all of a sudden now attach themselves to oh my god It's the diet and oh I can't blame and all of a sudden it'll become an ism You know and it turns into that so but I think it would be a great thing I would totally do this. I would we're doing it with keto right now, right? We all just kind of fasted and then we said we're gonna run keto It's probably gonna be about you just have to follow Vegan you arey with what will we come up with February right some kind of carnival go the opposite way right go Keto go hard keto and then maybe go somewhere in between with paleo, and then you move into to like a carb cycling I think it's I just like first off people trying this I think it's good Because it's exposing them to new foods. It's Exposing them to cutting other foods out if people are aware enough it could show them You know positives negatives all kinds of now they don't attach themselves I'm getting I'm getting now that Doug has pulled this up in the screen. Oh, they're blasting you if like Yeah, this is the that's why you feel bad about yourself. This is brilliant if for animal lovers because I guarantee you This is motivated by not by we want everybody to become a vegan because it's healthy But by we don't want anybody to eat animals hundred percent Brilliant marketing because they've been trying a long time to get people to become vegan and the ways they've been doing this stupid It's so bad like what the health documentary complete bullshit terrible You know the way they presented everything was so biased and so terrible or you have these pita campaigns that they just turn people off There was one that I posted on the forum where it said eat chicken and your your your child will have a small dick not making that up I Google that shooting not did you guys didn't see it in the forum? Trying to say that the chemicals in chicken in chicken cause so much sense. Yeah. Anyway, my mom hated chicken your mommy horse So bro, this is brilliant because when you get by when you create a Like a trend and you get everybody on board with a trend like you said like move ember look what that did That got everybody trying to grow a mustache. This is absolutely brilliant. This is gonna get a lot of people To try to be weak because everybody could do something for a month, right? I like pump tober For us, I think everybody can be like I won't eat meat for a month So I'm gonna try vegan is right. I dare you to listen to mind pump every day for a month. Yeah Let's create a month your mind of right month of my bomb pump pump. February. No, yeah No, I'm I'm I'm cool with it I mean I think because we've all been and I'm probably the person who asked this question Probably thought we would slam it or be all anti I'm not I'm not a fan of The bullshit marketing like you were talking about right now like what the health and all that stuff I think there's lots of benefits to somebody eating this way for a while Just I think it's unfortunate how many people get manipulated though into it This because then it turns into something like just six months ago. You didn't give a shit about the cows Now all of a sudden you care big time about the cows, you know, but you know, the general rules apply You want to you want to eat vegan? Stay away from the heavily processed foods. I know way too many people who are like, oh, I'm you know I went vegan tough man, and I feel terrible or I gained body fat or whatever and I look at what they were eating It was so poorly planned. It was like, you know potato chips and it was processed Vegan foods that are made to taste like bacon. Is it just a bunch of isn't most all soy kaka too Soy is altered. Soy is very very very altered heavily covered in You know glyphosates which I feel like most people that are vegan like 80% of the diet makes up of soy products Soy soy has very little flavor and you can Mold it and make it taste like a lot of different things. So when you go To the store and you're thinking yourself. I want to eat a vegan burger It's probably soy and they've they've you know engineered the fuck out of it to make it taste like beef or whatever So stay away from the processed foods and plan out your meals So you get your nutrients probably a good idea to take a multivitamin But if you do if you do it for just a month, you're probably going to be okay Um, and that's pretty much it. Oh, it's Doug. Is that saying the uh, these are all vegan products Oreos cliff Doritos, dude. It's marketing. Yeah, okay. Hold on a second. Stop at the top real quick So here's what it says the foods that you can eat that are vegan now They're very smart because what they're trying to do is they're trying to entice. They're trying to entice people Of course pasta spaghetti Uh bread peanut butter ketchup mustard hot sauces rice jelly hummus french fries porridge bagels Oreos, you know doritos laze They are what they're trying to do is they're yeah, bro. Can I can I just say right now that if you ate off that list right there? You would be fucked You getting fat. Yeah, dude. You're getting fat. You're fucked if you're eating off that list right there You're gonna be hungry and you just keep going. Wine, pino Like if you're if you're like fuck this vegan thing is legit I'm about this right here. I'm getting Eminem. I'm gonna make myself an Eminem cheeto Oreo sandwich today This is fucking rad. I'm all about this diet. Look at this with the marketing eyes though Of course brilliant because you know they went to Oreo and whatever like hey We want to list your food meet people on vegan food shitty diets are at. Oh, so smart Very smart. Check this out 30 days of fitness is on youtube. It's a new workout every single day All of them work together. We slowly progress you. We add mobility in there as well. It's free It's absolutely for free. 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