 Kubwa, tu kizumze maswa liya burudani apa Kenya, fiyo a big fish, vi fi bro. Asante, san. Shukran, shukran, shukran. Kwa ili naibia kujiwa na muneza tu ambiwa na julekana kabana ni? Okay, kumadiya na ito Mutuma, Mutuma Vincent, na waku kuwa Kampunya Distribution, Lofanya Music Distribution niya. Ya. And of course, lobe kujiwa kwa master klasi anari ya mukami. Yes. How was the experience today? Yes. I mean, it was amazing, it was really fantastic. To me kuwa, I think, na, I think, to hit a photo opportunity kama easy, I think in the entertainment industry, as it was much. So I think it's a, it's a very, you know, good starting point. Na, kama bila uliwa na, I think ili kuwa pwasa niwa muneza maswa li to me kuwa na exchange of learning moments. So it was really awesome, ya, ya. And of course, tu kizumze ya kusumze, Mutuma tu me kuwa tukuna na Panya Kazisafi Pale, you are promoting the Kenyan entertainment industry and also holding other artists visuru and delay kimziki. Na, kwa ili kaza muna Panya? You are also labeled as a PR, some of it like that. Ya. Mutuma mi kusuyu yo kaza muna Panya? Ya. So muna kuwa kaziatu kama distribution, kuna vituni nge zina Panya kasi ku distribute muziki kwa stores, kuna zili muna kanga chini na wasani, ya ma na easy labels, muna structure, you know, roadmaps, goals, you know, objectives muna ta kuachiv na easy campaigns, na pon diopia re na coming. So sa zinginu na zapata ndi una, tu onanga papale na wasani, bazen sababu, kuna goals na roadmaps nuitaji kuachiv, zaizo projects. Ya, so it's a very big, you know, ecosystem behind the scenes, sale tu na Tokianga tu, kuma pitch ama online, ya. Ya, ya, ya. Na yo kaziya kwa muna Panya mi kupa texpojari inji ya inji, atmuna pia muna Panya Kazina, wasani kutua kule Nigeria na sana. Sijuyu, wali kupa ta VP ya di, kakwa size, right now you're also known in Nigeria. Ya, na fikiri ya nini, kazi nini niku diya mini ya, nimi toka mbali sana, nili kua actor, nili kua didi kua club, niku kua TV presenter, lakini I think all along nikona pina mama mbe mzeke, so niku kuna niku di sku matukili asiku usiku, usiku kufemoi, tanga mouto nini lakini usiku kufemoi, kwanza lini bat dayangu, so nimi post post fly nini, nikiwa actor kitambu sana. So niku usiku femoi na nili apu di sku matukili asiku, mungu yupo, ya. Na tukusu, okay sir. Okay sir. Mutumat like to know, I'll follow you on Instagram and I've seen so many artists when you were later. What is the strategy you use when bringing an artist to Kenya? Ya, ya. So most of the artists that you know you see me with are under us at our distribution company, so we are in over 34 countries around the world, so aki kudya huku, we take care of them and also was a new way to aki nda lesi maju, kamabutros, akochinetu, niki na mandi, tukona nadia, tukona servants. So aki nda lesi in other African countries, in other European countries, our team there will take care of them, so it's across marketing in the company, ya. Ya, ya. Okay, I'd like to know the challenges you face when you bring artists in Kenya. I mean, tazingine ni kujua, ni maketga niya mani gulga ni mataka kuachiva, siletu akuji, sabaki kuji alafu, ni ni kini ni kitafa nika. So ya, so it's all about, you know, setting is our goals. Kwanza kablata afike, ni aki kudya kwanza mani kwa muna, muna jwa ni ni ki nandelea, kamani interviews, kamani kupanga meeting na tiktokas, ndom push the brand, kamani kuenda kupanga meeting na tifokuzu, kina espiambas unauna, kwa guji airport, nde use a brand on mefika, vi tukama yu view. So you sit down with the team, plan these things ahead of time, ya. Ya, ya. And of course, talking about you working with artists, kumekwana hi debate kubu asana. Kenyan promoters are likely going out there to promote international music than focusing in Kenya. Siji uo neza semani nukusu ilo suwa. Ya. Nafkiri, siyote, na tako alia onafanya iwa, i think ni sababu ya, iwa demand ama kitu ona taka kuachiv. Akin una piya kuna wengine piya uku, kama kina nadia pa kina sevens, una kitu onafanya leo. It was amazing unona. Su kuna wengine, I think they want to grow the music scene in Kenya, they want to help unite the Africans, sababu piya sa zingetu kitaka kugro, atu ta grow Kenya pekiyake. We need to collaborate with the rest of the African countries, we need them to hold our hands so that you can also hold other African countries, lukata twitagi. So I think twitagi tu yukushikana mkono, wali ona kuji apiwa fani, wasani wengi yukuku onafanya na wasani wetu mziki, wasani wetu akinda, iwa kukuna yu exchange, lukata weza kuna layambali. Ya. And of course, talking about you, promoting Kenyan music out here, kuma kwa na ili suwa la watu ona semakwa ama, if you are an artist and you want your music to trend, you have to come up with a structure ni tu wa kiki ili weza kublo. Maybe when you promote us, wona wa wasani kada onafanya kiki kina bahati, poze wa watu. Do you feel kiki ni kitu yaku zingati wokifanya mziki? Is it a marketing strategy for the music industry? Ya, ya, ya, ya. I mean, it depends na wasani na timiake, saba buna wana kuna wali onafanya kuna wali afani. Nani na depend piya na goals. So kuna wengi nendi wa achieve goals, lazima onafanya kitu flani, but then it's world over. So see you, at least you can love Muthuwa Kenya. It's something that works depending on what you want to achieve, but then piya lazima we balance na, na kitu, iskuituna, skuma bila, kamutuwa project siya ne, onona. So napiya kwa wali ona skuma, kuna wali ona iskuma vizuri, stay kwa tadiya, lakini kuna ona fanya vizuri. So na fikiria ni, ina depend na mzani na plania, kini ataka kwa achieva that specific moment. Ya. In regards to your story, Akiki, tumona hii deyana na bahati, enyome kwa kifanya. So many people are saying maybe it's a ruin brand yao, is there a good or bad publicity when it comes to the industry? I think there is no bad publicity. Ya, so I wish them all the best. Kiki ni kiki, ina uza too? Ina uza, wiki tumia vizuri. And of course, let me say I am an artist and I want to venture into the Kenyan music industry. What are the few things I need to have or I need to do for me to make sure that nimejiweka vizuri kwenya ina tumia na industry? Nafikiri acha kwanza ni, we kwanza uji ito mukutana kwa mzani, wangalini wana ataka kwa achieva, krawdi ako ni kina nani, alafu kama ina zika na piya tafuta team, awezi fanya kila kitu peki ako, awezi kwa mzani, ukwe marketa, uji pileke interviews, uji shuti ebian the same content as social media, so tafuta team, you can do everything on yourself. And then kwa consistent, don't give up, kutakuna challenges along the way, na piya kuna commitment. Ya, ok, moku fanya fanya. Ya, ya. Na mutu ma, ilini suali pale, juzi tu li fanya interview na sabato sabato, aka sema kwa mba manamziki wili pola nafa kutafuta manager, watukada wakutag, aka sema, mutu ma naeza fixi story, ako manaja wopoze, sa ii suji kama kipo yu opotuni tu kwa manaja wopoze right now, suji kama naeza jukuwa? Na fikiri wopo poze ni, manamziki mzuri sanu, na fikiriya isa, I think among the talented artists in the country that we have unona, so I think you also work with them, currently you are working with them, na fikiriya ya, I think you can't wait to see what will pull us for you. All right, una fanya kazi na e kama manager, ake ma kivipi? Ah, no, no, no, no. We are distributing his music. Ya, ya, ya. Nadia, poti opotuni tii, maybe u poti opotuni tii kwa manager, ake, can you accept it? Na, nimi kwa mi opoze, nium totalitim sana, so na fikiriya kuna I think nia tu akaichi ni tukai na e aya lafta ni, lakini u redtun na fanya na e, so I think nisa already. Ya. Lakini wala, uka pojiya mi ni kwa ika? Apa na, nimi tu na tunongyanga na e sana, so niki tu redtun na fanya kazi na e, so na fikiriya kiu kazi tun na fanya kazi na wili polt sana, ya, ya, ya. So e kosao, 100%. Mutumad like to know, kuz you work with both local and international artists. Mbona wasa ni wengiwa na kuja, oki tu amziki tu kidogo Kenya ina hit. Lakini, Kenyan sana not supporting their own music. Na other artists, song zawzi na kuja kubluwa pa pa. Na, na fikiriya ni as we discussed on the summit, min Kenya we consume so much content from the rest of the world. So na fikiriya ni umana, Kenya na penda kusapot other countries. So that's why I think you know we are seeing most of the songs from other regions booming in Kenya, but na fikiriya, ataze tu kuna zengine zengiwa ingiwa inje, na kama yabutu Sanjili, menda sana inje, so I think me time to na yo commitment and buy wasa niwa e tu anatiwa wu sana kuwa fanya. Ya, ya, ya. Na, ok. Ono na siriki kuwa ganiwa wasa niwa Kenyan, do piwa wa blue ku enja. Na fikiriya tuni yo tu kutia bidi, na kudia minia, na piwa ku tafta partner na zambawa piwa na kuwa minia. Ya na fikiriya niya man, na winiwa ta kusukuma inje. Ya, ya. Na ilili niswali na mwisha, na ufkos me shia study the entertainment industry, what are the few mistakes zambazo wasa niwa Kenyan na zifanya na mzikiwa wu na kosa ku tamba inje a inch? Na fikiriya siye zila wu wasa ni kabi sa, bili tuni na sama kuwa panya na fikiriya ya kuja kuwa na watro kuwa funza, kuwa minia mzifanya iwi, fanya ni na mziki iwi, so ni nge lo wumu the entire kama system iwi. So sabosa ni msa niya ezi je producia mziki, ezi kuwa studia ki diyandiki yabadu, adye wili yata market, ono na, adye wili yata uskuma inje a Kenyan. So ni nge, sayama i think ni iyo edukasio na kuja kuna edukasio niya kutosha, ya kuwa funza ni ni wafanya ni ni wasifanya. Ya, ya, ya. And you think maybe piya kuna wili masha biki kota ku support wakanya iwi ki oki mziki? Apana, apana na fikiriya masha biki ono support sana, espiashally ono na kwa ukiangaliya YouTube trends, ukiangaliya sportive, ono stream sana mziki. So na fikiriya tu ni, I think to change your perspective tu, ni letu ku, wa sana ni wa letu ku di skuma na ita pick, ita pick ya. Na ofkos, suali lamwesho, kabisa. Prima wana wa sana iwa wabung wana, wana take over the streaming platforms in Kenya. Kulingana na wewa na wali wa sana ni wafanya kazi na wow. Which artists do you feel like how or to in the next few months they will take over the streaming platforms they will be trending number one, two, three, adi wu kule number ten maybe. Kuna wengi sana, kuna wengi sana. Tadja maji na piya. Kuna wengi sana wana fikiriya ni wengi tu na fanya na fasa sa kuna vidyana barbaros ni hewa maju wa zuri sana. Kuna Uyo Butros, kuna Mandy, kuna Willi Paul, wasa ni wengi sana wana Tia Bidi, kuna Breeda, LW, ambaya majiliya na ipenda remix na fanya zuri sana wana. So na fikiriya ni wasa ni wengi wakeni wana Tia Bidi, kuna Naidens, kwa wengi wana majiliya ipenda latino ambasa ni wakeni waka neto latino. So na fikiriya ni yoku sewa sana wakeni wakeni wana Tua mziki sana so ni yoku iskuma ya. Akin ni wana tu weha, trenda tu ngi pale, namba one pale? Nga fikiriya, kwa tu na trendu kukua ho? Wele wana trendu kueitu. Lakin ni ya na fikiriya nipole pole tu. Kuli kwa na yo I think a bit over, kuna wakeni wasa ni waku Tua mziki lakini sewa merodi kutua. So I think in the next kama manzama tu Tua pikiya. Asante asante. Ya ya, fresh fresh. Thank you.