 Hello and welcome to TV and with me is Bob Cook from Manchester Institute for Psychotherapy for his usual book investigation and review and there's an interesting book here it's by Rod Boothroyd one of Bob's former students at Trained in TA and it's called Jungian male archetype shadow warrior magician lover king guide to male archetypes it's a bit of a departure from TA isn't it sir Bob? Well Rod trained you know trained at our place at Manchester Institute and became a TA therapist and he I went on to work with the shadow part of the male if you like so he went to work specifically with men and had an interest in the young ideas of the shadow in the male archetypes and it's not too far removed from transaxon analysis in a way because if you think of Jungian's descriptions of male archetypes and the shadow in particular he's talking about the cut-off disowned fragmented parts of the unconscious which Jung called the shadow and in TA it's simply part of the ego if you like which get repressed yes so it's different language with different way of a similar way of thinking about it really and it's an interesting way because myself I've worked for years 30 odd years now working with the cut-off parts the repressed part or the shadow part of the unconscious if you like and a lot of my work has been healing and working towards integration of the different parts of the self so it's interesting it's an interesting departure in terms of Jungian ideas but in terms of similarity in what he was trained in you know as we say you and me have said many times many of the Bob models actually meet in some ways yeah it's very true Bob and I think it's quite it's quite interesting that it's male archetypes and you were saying off camera Bob that he'd really brought this up to date he contextualized it for modern men I guess so what did what did the archetypes tell us for those people who perhaps don't know archetypes warrior magician lover king what what would they represent what would they look like in terms of how how we would view somebody or or a you know males in general I guess they represent in many ways and I'm not as specialist in Jungian archetypes but anyway we're put the repressed parts of the self if you like so warrior would mean what this speaks obviously with the male repressive warrior in us that the external leader if you like a person that is taking the initiative of the male and then you've got the magician often called you know the trickster in some ways which is the intuitive magical part of the self and TA you might want to think of in terms of the what Claude Steiner called that intuitive part of the self and then you've got the king which is the real sense of authority in us which we often bury in terms of defining ourselves and then you've got the lover that romantic part of the self which often again gets cut off so they represent cut off parts of the self and if you go and read this book of course which I skim through not in great depth but I was interested in the palace TA then he is talking about a model of the unconscious in a way which parts of ourself get repressed into yeah so it's those parts of ourselves that might not might want to come out I'm thinking of I'm thinking of the lover someone who's afraid of showing emotion maybe and that is intimacy intimacy yeah or all the warrior someone who's fighting the standing up for themselves yeah being assertive in the world yes absolutely so it's brought up today so in terms of the audience for the book Bob who would you say the audience is well this is interesting of course it's for it's for people I think who are advanced practitioners I mean it's very interesting beginning people but you know but by the time you've done a four-year cycle therapy training you've started to really understand the connections between the past and the present and how trauma is dealt with so for example how we deal with trauma is to cut off parts of ourself repress them so they actually get disowned from the self so for example so the more a person starts to learn how to be a psychotherapist the more likely they are to understand how to work towards integration of these different split-off parts of the self whether it be the romantic self the person that's afraid of intimacy the person who finds it very hard to be assertive in life these are parts which get caught repressed specifically with trauma yes I was that's what I was going to ask because these these these are the things that get pushed away in traumatic situations lost or become unavailable to people so it sounds like a book for advanced practitioners all those people who just have an interesting young young is of a perennial interest I think to anybody in the therapy world because these ideas are I think it's just so different in a lot of ways from traditional models of therapy where he goes to a more spiritual place a more symbolic place because these are symbols the simple they're romantic symbols they're symbols which talk about repressed parts of ourselves and of course what also talks about how to facilitate groups what he calls shadow groups so men getting together reclaiming the parts of the male psyche which they've repressed and how to how to really bring out and externalize the male potential of themselves in the modern age well Bob I think I think on that very precise and very kind of eloquent note I'll just say that we're gonna put a link to the book below have a look if you want to buy it Bob doesn't get paid for these reviews he does it for the love of literature to share his knowledge with you his vast knowledge with you and there's always Bob Cook thank you very much yeah it's book number 85 book number 85 well there we go and why don't you have a look in the playlist for all the other books the other 84 that Bob and myself have reviewed on Bob's review yeah great thanks a lot Bob bye bye