 Good good. I'm glad that Roger's exasperated. I'm so tired didn't quite make the broadcast Actually, I'm sorry about that. All right, here we go Daily Tech news show is powered by its audience not outside organizations to find out more head to Daily Tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news show Definitely for Thursday December 29th 2016. I'm Tom Merritt alongside almost the entire DTNS crew assembled here. I'm gonna break down the illusion really early on a Sunday morning, honestly So I want to just first start off by saying how impressed I am that all of you made it and thank you Thank you very much. I'll answer it once. I mean That's right, you're on the East Coast So it's a little a little easier for you Well, the one person who hasn't quite made it in here and we think there may be some technical difficulties Scott Johnson Hopefully we'll join us at some point But we're gonna go through on this show and look at the things we predicted last year in our predictions show I love to do this and we've been doing at Veronica And I've been doing it since back in the Buzz out loud days because everyone makes predictions But nobody ever goes back to check and just see and it's such a great perspective setting To see what I thought was going to happen last year and then realized how far or maybe how close I was Sometimes the ones I get right I get right for the wrong reason. Anyway, it's all very interesting So we will start off with you Ms. Veronica Belmont We have Your prediction that the virtual reality industry would fix the motion sickness issue that keeps you out of vr gaming It has gotten better, but it's still a problem So this was this was not true. I did not I did not predict so you're not going to give yourself Credit for this one I I know no, I'm still pretty bearish on this. It's still definitely an issue I've read a bunch of articles recently saying that, you know, people are still having trouble It's still like the playstation better. It has definitely gotten better But I don't know if there's ever going to be a fix for it Uh, all the things people tried to do in second life will start happening in virtual reality in 2016 What did I mean by that exactly flying pieces? I don't know Um, oh What do you guys think what does the panel think do we feel like we're seeing some second life styles things? I think I think that that you can pay out Out the on that in linden dollars Our prediction is and I don't know if people are really using persistent Uh, uh social interaction, which is what second life right persistent and and sort of recreation of existing representations of existing brands that people could interact with in that persistent world and Yeah, I think I think if it's playstation were to do a a home like Scenario with vr. You know in the last month of this year, uh, then maybe but I don't think that's that's going to be the case So I'm going to say wrong on that. Yeah. Yeah, uh, the next one personal Smart software bots will inhabit every platform and piece of software now if we take this literally Then you're not going to get credit for it But because that would be impossible to inhabit every single piece of software But I think what you meant was hey all the major platforms are going to have this people are going to be using it More and more inside of software I'm willing to give this to you especially because it infected you yourself as you started working for a I started working for a bot company. Um, so I think that's you know I think pretty much every chat platform at this point with the exception of maybe what's app Has bots built into it. I think we're going to see it on We're seeing it in messages. Um, I think we're seeing it in a lot of Uh, facebook messenger is huge slack is huge. Um, so I'll give myself this one All right everyone any objections to that from the panel anyone want to fight me? I just feel like can serve and next serve kind of deserve the credit for being og I just want to throw that out just a little honorarium. Yeah, I think that's fair Uh, and then finally someone will die on one of those bull crap hoverboards scott johnson agreed with this one as well People have died people have died there have been died not for the yes people have people have died people had died in 2015 as well I just didn't know that um, I went back and looked there have been deaths uh around hoverboards No one has died in a hoverboard explosion, which I think is what I was in. Yeah, I think that's what you were meaning Also, if someone had already died in a hoverboard accident Really Oh technically she's saying someone will die on one of those bull crap hoverboard hoverboards in 2016 It's true. Yeah, you're right. You predicted this this teenage boy that got hit by a bus Yeah, I know it's pretty sad. It's pretty sad Take your victory you ghoul I still think they're terrible. I still hate them people are still riding them. They're still not wearing helmets So be safe out there people in 20 in 2017 The one thing I will say is they have a lot like amazon stopped selling them if they're uncertified There've been standards enforced on them. Uh, so it it has Become a safer arena than it was even if it isn't entirely safe But now we've got those skateboards with the pushy things and the guys riding around those and in the Birkenstocks and the what-nots And i'm not okay with it. Yeah the motorized skateboards Oh, those have been kicking around since the 70s. Well, you can hold on to your ghoulish prediction for that one for the Oh, I will. All right, uh, jenny josephson You had one uh from last year that blank rooms will start to be a feature in some homes with only the monitor And the vr hardware blank walls for sensors. No other furniture It would basically a vr room and your metric for success was there would be a new york times article about it So sadly and I put this failure squarely on the new york times. There has not yet been an article Uh extolling the need for an extra room for vr, but that's not to say it's not happening I did like a little wider search To see if there was any like, you know The thing that the new york times looks, you know, the blogs that then trickles up to the style section And I still haven't seen it. So i'm gonna call myself a little too ahead of the curve Uh, and uh, uh, I bet you it'll there'll be one in a couple years from now Yeah, that's always my problem with predictions is I make them too far in advance Not for the coming year. I make predictions that might come true five years down the road I don't even think this one will be five years though. And like you said, I mean technically it It is starting to be a feature that could be offered to you in your home It just didn't meet our metric for success. So I I'd give you a half credit for this one for sure All right, I'll take it easily No You can't give the super dumb style section easy three like source trend piece Either that happens or that doesn't I'm gonna I'm gonna be a stickler on this one. All right I'm just gonna say that uh, I don't care and I've got to know in my heart that I got half credit for my Roodle under under uh under dts rules. No credit under current gig scoring rules have Patrick major we move to you facebook will launch a vr chat app will probably suck at first and people will not use it at first So So technically no, it didn't happen. We did however get a preview of the facebook Things that they're trying at the oculus connect Conference back in was it september earlier in the year? Yeah in the fall Yeah, and and I think that is what may ultimately become that but it's still very much in the demo stages And it it didn't come out So it didn't launch but then they introduced if you had had but one word different here Yeah, possibly and and the thing is I think if they had just introduced it and it was whatever it would have been fine But it's it was really cool. Um, I think it was something really interesting in in exploring what can be done in vr and especially with the The touch controllers So yeah, it didn't happen But we it might not be too far off any credit for that because I mean facebook totally did announce that they just did launch it Ask the grinch What is it? It's a vr chat app Yeah, do you remember when they showed off the avatar chat using your oculus rift and you could you could have your telepresence There was a zucker. No, I think that's that's legit. That's legit. All right Uh, and he said launch Yeah, I did say launch and the thing is if you just imagine that facebook will do something like this Obviously, they're going to so just predicting they will really is doesn't amount to any kind of prediction So the real prediction is that they would launch it. I feel so I'm burying myself Patrick, don't don't sell yourself short. Just say it was a paper launch Yeah, no, I don't know I'm a lot less passionate about it when it's not involving making fun of the new york time style section Well, and also we want to be nice to patrick on that one because man, did you blow the next one? The slack bubble will burst and everyone else on the panel said slack will rule the world in 2016 Do you guys feel it's ruling the world? Yes, I feel it's really our world the patrick. No, okay fine. I feel it's really the geeks Uh, uh, okay. The way I will put it is it didn't it didn't burst definitely didn't burst But I feel it's still very much into the geeksphere and it's not so far so much farther ahead That it was, um a year ago, you know, it was Yeah, if your prediction had said slack will will rule the world and be a mainstream product that your parents and grandparents know about and are using I would say that definitely would have been wrong. It's definitely still a very much in the tech space kind of thing I think it's there. No. Yeah. I mean I work with I work directly with slack They would agree like they are still like they're trying to move into the enterprise space But it is not a mainstream product yet And I think microsoft teams especially is going to give them a big run for their money because they're already implanted in so many Enterprise offices like throughout the world. Yeah, but but that's the validation, right? The validation is that microsoft had had to had to try to head them off But it's not slack. It's another way of approaching the of solving the same issue. It's definitely doing, you know Influencing the business world in that sense, but it's not slack itself again Take the L and I would I would also just add it's not just tech companies That's one sector of the economy It's media companies like I work for a rather traditional radio station Turned radio network that started in 1967 and they just shifted their entire company over to slack So I kind of think maybe it's off By a by a year or two because it's usually is tech companies media companies and then enterprise solution, right? I'm going to say that there was one that actually predated that which was open source projects and hackers who have been using slack Since the early 90s. I've been slacking on irc.dall.net We've got we've got a slack running on irc.hack5.org. My favorite slack client is probably xchat or maybe m irc Yeah, but those those are yeah, those are irc though. It's they're not like no, I know I'm trying to I Understand but like I mean what I'm saying they're coming from these are bottom-up approaches Like these are like even at media companies slack is there probably because the engineering team or the geeks at the company Like wanted to use it and other people saw how popular it was. It's not coming from the top down yet It's not too late It's not too late for patrick to get into the french election I think with that amazing pivot away from talking about his entirely wrong prediction that the slack bubble would burst Into evaluating our joking reaction. Are you kidding? It will rule the world and then evaluating it I mean well your next your next Prediction there will be a serious instance of non state sponsored cyber terrorism I would argue is is is true with the d-doss against Uh, the against dine and the the takedown of several domains like twitter, etc It right terrorism is the is is is arguable about whether that's what that was But it was definitely a serious instance of non state sponsored attack Yeah, and and the thing about the key word being I mean one of the keywords is terrorism and we don't know that It was specifically terrorism and to be quite frank. We don't even know if it was non state sponsored. Um, so I don't know. I mean it was the morai botnet and it was likely from a hacking group Yes, it's a potential that a state got them to do it. Uh, but it's not necessarily Assuming it feels like it was more of a test for a potential subsequent attack with Because here it just didn't have Significant results beyond the fact that the internet broke for a couple of days, which is big enough But it wasn't like it coordinated with something else. So again, I'm not sure I would give myself this one I'm being am I being too modest. Am I being too after that amazing slack pivot? No No, yeah, yeah Daryl, how would you rule on this one? um I'm gonna I'm gonna save that one for uh for len because that that was a riff off of len's prediction about uh other hacking Okay, we'll we'll we'll we'll evaluate those together the final patrick one is the nintendo nx will launch before the end of 2016 and we'll have zelda as a launch title. It'll double launch with the wii u Man, you're so close. So so so So we went back and listened to the uh episode when they announced finally the switch and I did mention Something like fiscal year 2016 like I specifically said before The end of march 2017 and that was my exact prediction. I believe Zelda though, it's looking like it's not going to be a launch title which You know puts it back into the non accurate prediction side. So again I feel like I'm half and half. Zelda's gonna come soon and it's gonna double launch like Oh, I just really want to give it to you. Oh, well, then you can okay. It's fine, but I Let's go to darin. Uh darin said we will see the emergence of not quite game Not quite movie entertainment products like the star trek hollow novel Uh, we'll also see the first ever ip lawsuit regarding vr including some kind of dmca take down I Didn't see it. Did you I didn't know anyone And I don't know what a hollow novel-esque experiences outside of maybe the recreation of zork in the You know what I'm I'm actually going to give this to you because I think products like foo And I know of other company other companies that are making not quite game not quite like Media stuff that are like experiences in vr that are on in line with what you're talking about kind of And I'm gonna Yeah, I mean, I will say right now, especially the steam vr space is very very Um Even the games are kind of demo-y and they're they're kind of experiencey in story telling like things So, I mean, I don't know. I'm more inclined to give darin that All right, there you go. Do you get the hollow novel? I mean Close enough. Yeah, that feels like one will look back at in you know, 20 29 and think Really? Spectacle fest will be cancelled But we knew that so I don't know if we can really give you the Did that as a prediction? I always have hopes. Yeah me too. I'm with Veronica on this one I I think you definitely called no vr from apple in 2016 And a lot of people thought apple would come with vr in 2016 So it's not as crazy as it sounds in retrospect Because they can't meet to it They've got to apple it up and I don't know how Patrick doesn't want to give that one to you though No, no, I'm just I'm just did anyone they didn't come out with it I don't know that anyone on this panel did but there were lots of buzz of like, oh apple's going to develop vr And we haven't seen any we we've seen that they have some research in that arena But nothing that would indicate they're coming with a product Finally department of transportation in the faa will accept recommendations of the task force And we'll have a registration exception for 250 grams or 8.8 ounces until there's an incident with an unregistered drone centered around size and thrust Well Half right. You got you got the first you nailed the first half The first half was kind of obvious because the recommendation from the special task force was already submitted to the faa and they just adopted it There hasn't been an incident, which is great. I why was I making morbid uh predictions like Veronica? Because you wanted to be right There's there's always that not like this is a competition whatsoever Although i'm going to go back up in the dock and make this one bold Oh, yes, please do. Please do. You're correct in doing that You did get the uh the star trek holo novel one, right? You just you can't build the spectacle. I'm just gonna start Uh export control will be put in place on quantum encryption I am actually well on the one hand. I wouldn't want such a thing to be done On the other hand, uh, I'm saddened because this means that quantum Computers aren't at a place yet where uh the powers that be feel that they need to be Uh place on export control list, which is we're not even having a discussion about it. That's unfortunate We wish quantum encryption was good enough that we'd be having an argument about whether it should be controlled, right? Right, right. I want the play stations that can't go to iran. You know, I want I want that happening Not that I don't want them to get play stations I mean, I just want to know that we have play stations that are quantum computers Yeah, that would just be too far ahead. You might still be right on this down the line though I hope I hope next year Uh, just a robber young we turn to you. Uh, uber will lose their class action lawsuit Uber's reaction will be to press more state legislators to pass laws in their favor This will become a presidential election campaign promise to fight for the little guy Elements in here. They settled the lawsuit. They didn't lose it. They definitely are lobbying legislatures and and Things about writer rights did become a bit of a campaign issue It was about to actually become in in an alternate rick and morty universe where uh, where this was a normal Presidential election and not the craziest thing anyone's ever seen in their lives Uh, there was a initial kind of battle lines being drawn Like jeb bush was making a big point to take an uber for a campaign event Hillary clinton had uh, some talking points about uh, you know, sticking up Like maybe being critical of the gig economy and stuff like that And then of course 2016 happened and and you know, literally any and everything kind of went out the window So what I thought was kind of a layup Uh, uh, certainly wound up not panning out in terms of the presidential issue You also said we will all be making vr predictions next year meaning this year Because none of these that we made in last year's show would come true But since we gave darin his That sort of took away yours Well, Justin, I know I know well technically. Yeah, I guess his his prediction was not necessarily vr Focus we gave him credit for the for the win because of a vr product, but uh, I think the Well, we'll see when we do the prediction show Whether or not I was right the people will still be making vr predictions, uh, you know into 2017 I think that's a given we will be making vr predictions in 2017. Well, there we go. Like, you know Making predictions next year Why don't you sign off first justin I just need to talk to the rest of the crew I think I think the larger the the larger issue is that this was Thought to be kind of the year that vr broke out and although there have been certainly Promising signs Specifically with playstation vr and all the money that's going into there and the vibe has had a tremendous year I don't think that this might have been the embryonic year that vr Kind of grew up a little bit and got ready to be a mainstream thing, but it certainly is not So if you hadn't argued against half credit earlier, I'd be tempted to give you half credit here Oh, no, I'm I'm I'm fine. I can take my all right Uh, batman versus superman will be considered the worst comic book movie of all time Sub 20 on rotten tomatoes and someone at warner brothers will lose their job It's 28 on rotten tomatoes 27 27 now, I think oh is it down 27 already. Yeah, so, you know, the it's going down the the year is not over yet Yeah, we still got time But you know what I would probably you know had you added You know, it will be considered one of the worst comic book movies of all time I would definitely have agreed it is a terrible movie and I know people are contentious about this It's bad. It's it's a bad movie. There's just nothing redeeming about it Other than maybe you get to see potentially what the justice league looks like but even then you feel kind of like that Wonder Woman is the best part of that movie And she's not even really in it all except, you know for the for the 10 minutes at the end Hey, we got to find out that Wonder Woman has email, which I was very excited to find out Have you been also has She also has some questionable Cognition on the fact that an attachment is not an actual picture Which maybe she's she's just kind of getting getting up to speed on that. So Uh, listen it in hindsight it was the most I've laughed in the theater. Um, so I In 2016 so I personally have very fond memories of going to see Batman vs. Superman, but the head of DC's The the DC movie franchise did wind up switching over and now they have new leadership there So, yeah, technically somebody did get reassigned Uh, because of how bad that movie was All right, let's go to Len Peralta Len you said there's going to be a major cyber attack on a major city next year transportation communication or basic services Now Of the San Francisco transportation system over there was also something over Yeah, there was also something overseas earlier in the year, but it wasn't as as dire as I has I had predicted here Yeah, this was one of them. This was yeah, this was this did not affect the actual transportation portion It affected the ticket buying. Um, so I don't I'm not sure like how how bit picky we want to be about this Well, Darren, you wanted to weigh in on this. So, well, you know in hindsight I maybe was a little bit wrong and right about what I was what I had said in response to uh, Len's prediction was that uh, no I don't think we're going to see anything that's going to be shutting down trains and turning off power Although I think in 2016 we will see cyber attacks that affect like politicians things like leaks of emails And things of that nature that can sway popular opinion And we made you predict that last year really I did actually predict email leaks. Wow You said that in response. Yeah, you're right. It wasn't part of your main predictions, but You should give your credit for it. That's crazy prediction about data breakages Yeah, no, Darren Darren gets uh, Darren gets gets retroactive points for that I think that that one might be like the prediction of the show like you you get a crown or something That is almost too good, Darren. Yeah, how did you know that? Well, you see uh, yeah, there's a team and we collaborate on the slack like thing It's an ETS mission of Tobus, you know what Darren if you could abstain from making predictions for next year, that would be awesome Um, actually in the same vein along the lines of uh, talking about how slack will rule the world I uh mentioned that we'll see the emergence of an encrypted hosted slack alternative and we did it came from spider oak It's called semaphore There you go. Hey, um developed by Darren kitchen. No, I'm just No Lens other predictions, uh, Tony Bennett lady gaga and Justin Bieber will team up to do a netflix special from the moon through space x Sadly did not happen. Yeah, it's not true. Although we did get the white rabbit Uh, uh, project with gran and mohara Kerry Byron and tori belichi. They're they're kind of like my Tony. They're the Tony Bennett lady gaga and Justin Bieber of myth busting Exactly. Yeah Yeah, uh, there's so much there's so much coming out in netflix You know anything could have could have happened that next last year. So it's throwing spaghetti against the wall Uh, a certain artist who works on dts will have multiple games out for steve jackson. Yeah, I think that came true. I hit that it did There seems to be some insider knowledge involved A little bit a little bit unfair, but yes, but that did come true though All right, uh, we're gonna still give scott johnson a little time. Although we're we're not seeing any signs of life from him this morning I'm sure he's fine My predictions I said virtual emojis Will happen and they didn't There's just what does that even mean? I was I was thinking in vr again That there would be like these emojis that that would actually animate and smile and things. No No, nothing, uh, there will be a magic leap development kit by the end of 2016 I think I should get points for having the most wrong prediction I I wrote the ha On the document. Oh my god, you you know, like some like casinos have like bad beat bonuses like there's like statistically, uh Historic like bad beat. I think like you definitely get paid out on that. Yeah, uh, for sure That was my plan the whole time Uh, and finally some phone company will market their faster service as 5g Even though it's probably carrier aggregation or just lte u That did not happen. However, we did see atnt making a bunch of marketing hay Overlaunching 5g as a test service that intel is helping them test. Do I get anything for that? Well, is it actual 5g? Yeah, it's actual 5g unfortunately Uh, well, there we go. All right in absentia, uh, we will return to scott johnson's predictions And he said one day that artists like himself and len will be able to draw in 3d space walk around their drawings paint with hands Create a virtual palette and canvas to work on hit a button and have it print or be sent to a client Becomes a virtual maker space which is then translated in the real world. I mean len It's not there this year. I think he just shot too far ahead Yeah, and you know what it's interesting to think I think we're probably maybe not a year But maybe about two years ahead of there And and my prediction on the on scott's prediction is that when it does Come out greatest thing Wait, hold on. Wait is it won't be the greatest thing? Is is I think I saw something where people used So it's like at the disney level right now. It was a demo. Yeah, yeah No, there is there is a I can't remember who does it but there is basically a 3d paint Software for vr, which is yeah google. Yeah, yeah Can't remember if it's yes, so need google someone Um, but you can't quite I don't know how it works if you want to put it out in the real world I thought I saw that somebody pushed google paint in vr stuff like to a 3d printer. I thought I saw something like that So maybe scott's closer to being right than we thought there was also there's also the microsoft hollow paint Stuff. Yeah, I think the consumer level of this stuff when it finally hits is going to be underwhelming That's my prediction on that. Yeah, scott had said that it was going to be something, you know coming out of the likes of adobe Oh And I think what you're thinking of justin is If not what microsoft's doing something similar where you can create an object in vr and then print it Uh, but that's different scott was saying you'd be able to like just paint by walking around in a virtual space So, yeah, I mean both. I mean that basically is what google paint is right is is hill brush, right hill brush. Yeah, that's it Interestingly happened in the sense of augmented reality. Just not virtual reality products from Autodesk like 1 2 3d catch and remake allow you to take photos for multiple angles of a real world object Import them into using photogrammetry techniques as a 3d mesh and then export them directly from that program to a 3d printer If he changes one day to the first programs that start to allow He nails this That's what it sounds like to me. Yeah, if only we could write the predictions and word them after This is the lesson right make your prediction as as as least specific as possible Make them patents. Yeah Yeah, absolutely a method for drawing elements in virtual in virtual space And then something drawing will happen Scott also said I believe that in the next year facebook will have some sort of search product that encourages people to stay in facebook But also gives you information from the outside world Nothing Yeah, they didn't go that way They're including more and more of the outside world inside facebook, but not search yet And finally he absolutely nailed this and some people were still laughing at him at the end december of last year Mad Max gets an oscar nomination Wait a second. Who was laughing at that? I want the names right now. That was a shoe in at 10 movies Of course, it was gonna get one. Yeah, there were people mocking him though. Who this is no This is his straw man, man Like he he always has this this persecution complex for that movie like he was the only person who ever liked it Oh He really wanted it to be an indie film that no one know about I liked it before everyone else. It was an indie movie originally, but at this point, I don't think he counts as an Oh my god, this is a great movie. It's gonna get an oscar nomination Yeah, you know and he's like no, but for real stop making fun of me All right, uh, finally our vr lawsuit was a consensus prediction By the way, all of us agreed that there would be some sort of lawsuit around virtual reality, whether it was tripping or nausea or this or that, um I can't say for certain there hasn't been some lawsuit out there that that involved vr But we haven't had a big one that So wait a second the zenimax, uh, suing oculus. Does that count? It's not what we were talking about user But maybe wait, wait, wait. Maybe it could be All right You can make that prediction tuesday Yeah, exactly what we did It was not a lawsuit But what we did start to see a little bit of that You know real world element to kind of make its way into vr with that whole sexual harassment Uh a story that kind of blew up So we we are we are starting to see that although i am shocked that somebody hasn't just totally tripped over their five chord and died Because as much as I love that thing a literal death trap Come on, what's up with the morbid? Yeah. Yeah, let's oh no I'm just I'm just surprised because I've definitely fallen over like You know twirling around and shooting people in vr and then realizing that like my entire leg is wrapped around the chord I think this is an instructive moment Where we all see these things and say well somebody's definitely gonna get hurt and sue and it didn't happen It doesn't always happen. I would say well, I think it's too early I think I think the level of ambulance chasing on this is still too early And what you need for being a bringing an element of rational pessimism into this You know, this is the thing it's like oh Early adopters are always willing to to accept Certain penalties including physical ailments just to be the first ones on the block to try it But once it becomes a more widely accepted product I'm sure you'll so you're saying it has less to do with people being more responsible than we imagine and more to do with Adoption rate. Yes. Yeah Have you or someone you love the injured in a vr accident, you know it just and you have the perfect name for your law office contact jury Exactly has a You could you could do your own law hoc commercial that'd be great Or you could join kitchen and howl because we laminate litigate All right. Well, that is it. Thank you again to everybody for listening throughout the year and supporting us and Big thanks to scott johnson for his predictions from last year. We're sorry. He couldn't make it in here Let's go around the table real quick before we get out of here and and head back to our holidays because it's december 29th Then we need to start preparing for new years Darin kitchen working folks find you jk the number 5.org where you can learn how to Exfiltrate documents from your friend's computers. I like to call it an involuntary backup It's important to back up your files folks Learn how to do that back up other people's files H aka 5.org. It's great for systems administration and white hats stuff too. I've got a white hat on I understand Jenny josephson. 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Thank you for all your drawings all year long Go check it out lemparalta store.com and what else you got to tell people about With only a couple of days left in the new year. Well, jeez if you want to actually hire That certain artist who works on dts who had multiple games and comics out for steve jackson games Just go to lemparalta.com. Check out everything there and you'll go down the rabbit hole and figure out how to get in touch with me So Patrick veja about that yourself You know, I was really glad to wake up so early to be with you all on this Sunday morning like seven in the evening where you are something like that But if you want to have a little bit of fun with gaming or with International politics and news go to frenchspin.com. You'll find a show for itch for each Maybe for itching as well. And and they're both excellent frenchspin.com veronica belbot. How about you? 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