 Aaron Boba shit clearly gave you guys some trouble today. What made him such a difficult out? Yeah, I mean, you know the first one You know look like Corey tried to get a two-seamer into the corner didn't quite get it there And it probably didn't quite have the movement quality and and pretty really good inside out swing And at the time I think the wind was kind of kind of hit it in that tunnel Where the where the wind kind of later shifted so Yeah, obviously had a hard time containing him today and and he got us there in the end What did you think of cluber overall? Cluber I still thinks close. I thought the stuff was fine, you know You know, obviously had to work pretty hard, you know a lot of Lot of a lot of pitches kind of each inning that drove him up a little bit You know had it had to les there oh to to start that inning and Change up that Wasn't an awful pitch look like it was probably off the plate away But elevated enough and to let's put a good swing on it to get things started then he hung a break and ball to Kirk You know, but otherwise You know made some pitches to get out of a to get out of a jam there in his last inning So I feel like he's he's continuing to get Get close to where he needs to be and and when you think of Corey at his best It's it's movement and precision and you know just get into that final over that final hop again real precise Just two and four on the road trip. What can you do to try to get this team back on track? Well, we got it. We got a play better obviously in every area, you know, there's You know some some mistakes we're making You know, obviously the pen is has done a really nice job for us You know, we when you're not banging you got to do little things really well And you know, let's catch the ball run the bases We know eventually we are gonna we are gonna start banging You know, I have a ton of confidence in our guys and can't wait to see them turn the corner But in the meantime, you know, especially when you're in these dogfights where you're not breaking breaking games open You got to play real clean Very boring you have a next question Karen, I know we've asked you about this a bunch But how much of a tight right are you guys walking constantly having to dip into your bullpen early in the games like this? Yeah You know Okay, we're doing okay because we've been able to protect them We haven't pitched anyone when we haven't wanted to you know, we've stayed away And you know when they've gone multiple innings given them a couple days off You know the the off days, which you know, I think, you know, obviously weather related But also because you're building up starting pitching you have the more off days than usual in the month of April that help you out a little bit So, you know, I feel like we've been able to and because our entire pen has played a role You know, we've had to lean on all of those guys kind of equally So they've kind of shared the load down there a little bit. So I don't feel like we've had to use anyone unnecessarily But as you go and you start getting later in the month And you start getting into the into May and the summer months That's when that's when you really got to lean on the starting pitch