 Where is it going news is the follow-up thing thing of the day is you think of the day you're gonna do Summoning salt, okay, I'll do both of these nuts. You probably know more about both of these nuts There's not that much more to know about both of these nuts. It's pretty simple story tail is all this time war Boy You seem to be streaming fine is it my my ridiculously quiet and broken. I know you look good All right It does not appear that I broke it again It's Tuesday, June 5th, 2018. I'm rim. I'm Scott and this is geek nights tonight We just got shapes and beats. It's just shapes and beats Yep, and even the even the even the listener says that the stream is all good That's the time of year. I'm biking to work again I'm biking everywhere. Yep, but So because I changed jobs I biked to midtown like I have a really short like a 12 to 14 minute bike ride to work. It's not that far I think I spend equal amounts of time on the Queensboro Bridge and not on the Queensboro Bridge But I'd never really biked around in midtown like during the day before like that's like midtown only existed for me to get Across to Central Park or across to the west side with you exactly So I have to bike through like into the heart of midtown to get to my office And I encountered something that I've never really encountered before biking. I encountered old people Yelling at me to slow down All right, I have encountered in the like four times. I've ridden my bike to work in midtown Four different old people who yelled at me to slow down I was biking in the bike lane and today there were two of them two of them were today So in the second one when this old man yells at me to slow down I actually stopped turn around Because I was curious and I was like what do you mean slow down and I had a a conversation with this person now I decided I was really curious. He's a crazy old man. He was a crazy old man. I know but specifically he He seems to be terrified of the idea that a bike will hit him So don't go in the bike lane yet Simultaneously he thinks the bike lanes are sidewalks that are for slow biking only and that if a bike is going fast It should be in the street with the cars instead of in the dedicated fast bike lane And he was really fucking mad that I was on a bike and that I was talking to him and I could I could have killed his wife and then I left because he was obviously crazy and Why didn't you just make him go crazy by keep talking to him till he just dies because I think he would have hit me Oh, well, then you can call the police and crazy old man go where he belongs Yeah, but I think while you there was a time you called the police on the crazy hobo and you felt bad like well Because that crazy hobo was crazy in a way where he just needed help exactly if the police came and bludgeoned this Old man over the head. I feel bad at all. Yeah, I really have no sympathy for old I have no sympathy for the specific class of old people who are anti bike lane Or anyone is pretty much. Well, you don't really an uppity really anyone who's anti bike lane I got no tolerance for anyone who's anti I'm anti a lot of things. Yeah But bike lanes only because there's no good reason to be against bike lanes There's only bad reasons to be against bike lanes shouldn't be a bike lane There should be a car lane. Yeah, be none of them in Manhattan Well, there shouldn't be cars in Manhattan the only there should be there should only be Professionally driven cars and eventually robot cars to drive around people who have disabilities their end for deliveries There should be no other vehicles that are powered anywhere in Manhattan Deliveries only at night. Yep. Also emergency vehicles. Yep. Yeah. Yep. That's it That's it should spread slowly to the entire rest of the earth Yep And we just shut down every town that's too far away from things and if you live too far away from a place Well, government's gonna buy your house and you get to move into an apartment or just you know, are we gonna leave you out there? Yeah So, yeah that aside there. We got some news today Yeah, okay, so E3 is coming soon, which means, you know, first of all E3 is still bad I'm surprised because years ago. I remember talking about how E3 was gonna die But somehow it avoided death. Okay. It's interesting because E3 was like for nerds who didn't know better because the internet Didn't really tell us what things were like back then people thought that E3 was like this mecca of gaming E3 is like just the bad parts of packs without without any other parts. Yep But it took the modern internet and them letting non developers in for everyone to realize this and I'm shocked that there's anyone Who still cares about E3? Yeah, I mean basically E3 is all the video game companies still I don't know why go and have their major yearly press conferences there to show off their new shit I don't know why they don't do it somewhere else or just one year Nintendo just did it on their own and was like Fuck E3 and why they didn't stick with it. They're they're going back to E3 again. Anyway, so What's it saying that's happening soon Which means gonna produce a lot of good Tuesday news for us. It's not happening now But luckily some companies have got a little preemptive action Little teaser little this and that to give us something to talk about So the most notable one is the trailer for Fallout 76 now Which is tough for me already because I don't need to fall out of one I never actually beat fallout one. I never beat any fallout fallout to I boot it up And I went for like a few screens in and that was it. Yeah Fallout three I beat I beat fallout three. Ooh, I didn't But the thing is that was a $50 fallout three. Yeah your edition with DLC fallout three new Vegas. I played I got oh Middling bit in I didn't even make it to Vegas. I think I was like about to get to actual Vegas I just didn't care about I just didn't care and really what happened to me was that the you are outside fallouts were completely ruined by the fact Yeah, well, you are outside and it's an FPS or at least a first-person game Anyway, so then I didn't play fallout 4 because I'm waiting for it to be all cheapo and it's not all cheapo yet Yeah But the thing is you had this fall 76 and this trailer for fall 76, right? Really appeals to me because the thing I because it reveals no gameplay. Yes about fallout is The inside the vault aesthetic it reminds me of paranoia and wool and Logan's run and all of those It's the apocalypse is outside and you're safe inside things. Yeah fallout is one of them Well, there's two there's two genres there. There's your safe inside and you're safe inside Yeah, anyway, and that's the thing that I like about fallout is that you know the vault boy cartoon Yeah, a little society having a birthday party inside, you know, right? I love that action and Once you're outside, it's like this lame, you know post apocalypse Mad Max situation But it doesn't have any of the fists of the North Star parts to make it any good But even worse the more recent fallouts the open world like when I got outside in the modern fallouts It felt really great and looked like this massive world, but as soon as it started poking around There wasn't really anything anywhere except the plot flags, right? Well, if you had the DLCs it fills in a lot of this stuff So for example, I played oblivion which is the one that came which is the Yeah, I got time for that the old scroll one Which is basically all these Bethesda games are the same game, right? but yeah oblivion was the old scroll and it came before fallout 3 and That one when I got it was super cheap like five dollars or something and it was full of DLCs I didn't even realize the DLCs when I encountered them because the way the DLCs are made is they basically what used to be empty land Now has a thing in it, right? So for example when I played oblivion there was a DLC that was like this quest to get the holy armor And I was like that's my alley. That's that's that's Scott right there Yeah, the holy armor be the great crusader or whatever, right? So I discovered this like I didn't even realize it was a DLC I found this holy temple in the middle of nowhere And I went on these quests and I got the holy armor and basically that became my home base I'd always teleport there leave my shit in the treasure chest there, right? Always hang out there always use the holy armor always be the holy warrior, right? And I didn't realize there's a DLC until later and it really you know Fills in the empty spaces in that big map, which is why you got to wait for those game of the year additions but anyway the thing about fall 76 that makes me slightly Excited whereas otherwise I'd be meh is that a the aesthetic of this trailer is the part that I like it's just got aesthetic and be Supposedly this is not going to be a Bethesda RPG game quote word on the street Is that it's going to be some sort of multiplayer survival game something kind of like a daisy or rust something like that and I'm down I haven't you know, I can go for one of those in the fallout L world I am a multiplayer fallout for real. Okay. I am cautiously intrigued and that's all you're gonna get out of me for the time being But it's like can't write that off You know, yeah There you go cautiously intrigued is the best you're hoping for another Bethesda RPG. Oh, well, yeah You got enough of them. I mean I actually played Skyrim a whole bunch But eventually I got to this quest where I had to go up a mountain and there was like a Abominable snowman and I couldn't beat the abominable snowman so I quit my try actually had the slight urge to try again So in some other news Mario tennis Mario Danny is coming back we've been waiting for this But I was worried because the Mario tennis that was for the Wii U was just a redo of Previous Mario tennis and the Mario tennis on the DS or the 3ds was El Pupo was garbage It was basically just a glorified Simon game in 64 and GameCube a Mario tennis all the GameCube one is still so good Those are the real Mario tennis. I love that Mario tennis. So now there's Mario tennis aces for the switch Which is an all-new Mario tennis and they had a demo over the weekend Friday Saturday and Sunday And the demo the way it worked is you could play solo against the PC to train PC Your friend calm your friend calm Or you could play online and the way the online play works is very clever I want to know why games like Hearthstone don't do this is a bracketed tournament and you get You play and you don't see the whole bracket All you see is it just matches you up with someone who also has zero wins in a row And then if you win it matches you up with someone who has one win And if you win it matches you up against someone who has two wins and it creates the bracket post-hoc and then you I made it to the finals once and then I got I lost And I made it to the semi-finals every other time The semi-finals are tough. I got lucky what that time I made to the finals. I was lucky my semi-final opponent was Algarbo Yeah I was only able to get two or three games in with humans because everyone had such terrible ping I basically played for a whole bunch of hours Like on Friday and I didn't play it all Saturday or Sunday The vast majority of the people playing this game had such horrible latency that it was an unplayable Like pointless game. Yeah at first I was streaming and I thought oh my streaming is causing the connection to be bad Then I stopped streaming now my connection was fine Yeah, I stopped streaming and I got a little bit better connection, but not much luckily It let you deny a match like you see your opponent has one bar. Well, I'm not playing them Okay, we'll find you another opponent with the same number of wins Okay, and if you keep trying long enough sometimes you get a good player right away sometimes not I didn't even mind losing I just minded playing against them with horrendous lag the few times I found someone I could play with who didn't have terrible lag. They were terrible at Mario tennis. Yeah, luckily When this game comes out it's gonna have everything that the other Mario Tennis has had yep and then we can ignore the online part It's like a 50 bucks for GameCube Mario Tennis Why would not pay 50 bucks and that had no online? Yep So why would not pay 50 bucks for this even if the online didn't exist well The trouble is Nintendo and they could fix it too and then it was charging money for their online play for all their games Yeah, I'm not paying any amount of money to play online and based on the experience with this demo because the whole I point of this was that it was an online event the fact that 90 plus percent of all the people I played with we're talking like Multiple second delays between me hitting a button. It could have been the netcode too, right? You don't yeah, I do not trust Nintendo to get it right though I'm not not paying any extra money for the online play But I probably am gonna pay money for Mario Tennis. I'll play this in part The problem is what I worry is that based on my experiences with other games like on the 3ds that the local multiplayer won't work either Because the Pac-Man verse local multiplayer works for shit Like it breaks all the time at home So my worry is we won't ever actually be able to play this game with other people ever Unless we put it on a TV and plug two pro controllers in that seems fine. Yeah, I get live with that But it's I'm getting really worried about the ability to play multiplayer games on the switch because so far It doesn't seem to actually work But in terms of the Mario Tennis game at least it's not quite as full-on as GameCube in And at the end 64 version in that it still has largely removed timing from the game You can't hit the ball sooner It does matter because the one while timing matters in terms of how hard and how well you hit it I'm setting up your shot timing is bad is see people didn't realize like there's a lot of subtleties They didn't teach you in the tutorial. Yeah, basically in the new in this Mario Tennis If your timing is bad if you swing when the ball is too far away from you That's what causes your opponent to get the star around the ball coming on their side No, I got to get a well-timed hit so that your hit goes to the other side Just normally and doesn't give your opponent the chance to get some sort of power shot or the zone shot or any of Those fancy shots with the star. Yep, right But there's actually quite a lot going on here a lot more than going on than in the DS one That's for sure. You got the zone shots. You've got this slow motion thing You got the trick shots the trick shots are interesting because every character has a different trick shot and they're not just an automatic save No, they're a pain in the ass. Yeah, they're really hard to use. I kept hitting the arse I don't like the control set because I kept hitting the arse stick by accident. I disabled it You can just turn it off. Oh, you can didn't you go to the options? That's like the first option is disable arse stick. Oh, I gotta do that Anyway, but then I got a prayer thing is I was also using the arse stick to the trick shot So I'm gonna have to practice doing the trick shot the other way. Yep It was nice. There were two ways to do almost everything except basic shots Yeah, so like even though the instructions were like oh to do the lob use x in something I was able to do the lob with my old AB and BA and the timing was exactly the same. Oh, that worked I didn't even try that even try the old the old controls just work For the lob BA for the drop shot because I kept I kept consciously thinking X to do the lob X to do the drop shot There's also lots of like for example This there's other real subtle things going on if you're in the star your drop shot drops way harsher Yeah Lobs way harsher I found also if you do like if you use a to do the the I don't know which one is the slice A is left hook or is right hook B is the slice I don't know which one's hook and which one slice the point is if you do hook then your opponent want and it's like a power Hook then it's gonna knock back the opponent a whole bunch which will allow you to get a much easier drop shot Yeah, the volley I also found that if they counter it with the right shot, then they'll get knocked back less But if they do that then you know which shot they're coming back with then you'll be in position to return it So do they get less knock back and do the shot they want to do to avoid the drop shot But then you know what it is and they're predictable the fact that we can have this conversation means this is probably gonna be a good Mario tennis Yeah, there's a lot going on subtly in this Mario tennis. It's it's a worth of play Yep, but fortunately you can't play it the demo's gone now Demo's gone now and why the fuck was there no boo in the demo? I know fuck apparently I think Rosalina though was was very boo like she bugging when she hooks. Oh, baby It hooks and chain chomp was apparently the cheap bullshit character because his reach is just like enormous He can hit the ball with barely moving. It's like, yeah, I can reach that. I'm a chain chomp No, no, it's like shouldn't the change I'm have a limited range because he tied down. So yeah I feel like I'm just gonna buy it when it comes out, but I Would caution you that if you are if you were interested in a person like me who will play through all the single player Mario Tennis and who will try to play it You probably don't need to buy it unless you're in a situation We have many people and you will be partying in which case one person should buy it if you're not gonna play it in Person on a TV wait until after it comes out so we can tell you if the netcode works From the e-shop wait until the exact moment You're actually at a party with a bunch of people who want to play it before you buy because we're gonna have it So they're like me and you're gonna play single player and practice and get good Yeah, but as soon as it comes out We will on Geek Nights tell you if online play works at all right and they could always patch it because it's now Internet, right? Yeah, so if they you know, and also I'm not paying any money So as soon as they charge money for online play, I'm not paying no matter what yep So in some other more minor news packs unplugged badges are on sale. It's November 30th to December 2nd We will be there the week after Thanksgiving. Yep, you should be there packs unplugged is a full-on packs But it's tabletop only yep. It's got a main theater. It's got panel rooms It's got tabletop specific panel rooms that have tabletop specific content that is not add other packs is It's a great time and bad you can totally just buy badges and tells reason to get if you live anywhere in the northeast It's just an Amtrak away. It takes you right downtown And if you want to go to packs West, it's too late badges sold out within like an hour Though but if you want to go if you live in the area near packs West near Seattle You can get to Seattle easily without like a plane or a hotel Monday badges are available labor day 2018 Badges are real easy to get you can just buy them. It's 50 bucks and you can see the Omega-Thon finale It'll be a shorter day than the other days But you can see the Omega-Thon finale and the Expo hall will be less crowded all will be exactly the same only way less crowded and You can go to tabletop. You can do everything you can do a packs. You just can't see a concert Yeah, you can't see a concert and it'll be shorter, but it's totally worth it if you're in the area Yep, I feel like it took longer for the badges to sell out this year because I feel like it took less time I think it took 37 minutes for Saturday and Sunday to both be sold out But I think that does not account for the fact that the queue was probably already full beyond those days I think their computer system was just you know well oiled well I think also and this is just a suspicion. This is not based on any inside knowledge We have but I suspect highly based on guts. Yeah that due to the Technically distributed nature of Pax West because Pax West is in the WSCC the Washington What a state convention center, but it's also in a bunch of hotels in the area like a bunch of them It's in there's a lot of locations next place I suspect they sell Way more badges that can fit in the WSCC at any one time I think yes, they're definitely selling badges way over the numbers of like They're probably combining the capacities of all those places and then adding even more onto it And just dare in the fire marshal to shut down WSCC because who can catch them, right? Well, if all those people try to go to the WSCC at the same time Yes, then they'll just be like, sorry, there's a way to get into the expo hall and that'll be fine I just suspect that's what's going on with pexes in terms of the badge situation And once again, if you are bitter or butter or salty about the fact that you didn't get badges There's literally no way to solve that problem. So stop. There's nothing you can do just give up Oh, no, there are 100 things that a thousand people want and I was one of the 900 people that did not get 100 things Well, either change it. So I'm one of the 100 people and someone else can be one of the 900 Sure, we'll make the badges cost $500 each and guess what it'll probably still sell out. I'm rich. I'm okay with that Yeah Man, and then the poor people have something to actually legitimately complain is I don't got fucking $500 a day What the fuck is this shit? But I'll just warn you all because the other con that's going to come up Not too long after that. Well, actually it's after down too long artifacts unplugged. It's magfest I think magfest will be selling out just like pexes do They will sell out the hotel problem I think not and much sooner than they saw the magfest hotel problem is already a fucking disaster Yes, because the capacity of magfest is greater than the number of beds they have within walking distance of magfest Yep, and the the fact that we have a way around that that has nothing to do with magfest will remain that way I'm never going to help you guys. Sorry. You're on your own But I think the magfest badge situation is going to get bad too may eventually. I uh, that's my suspicion Do do do. Oh, yeah pacman versus on switches garbage too. Yeah pacman switches doesn't work Wasn't just us Okay I don't even have pacman first on my switch. I have it. Okay. It's in the uh, Oh I do have that. Yeah, if you download it, but I only ever played digdog. Yeah, I only ever played digdog I think I still have a better record than you digdog. I haven't played digdog in a while Well, because yeah, you gave up because I should make I should make a reminder to play digdog once a day You'll never you'll never surpass my scores. Why not because I'm pretty good I play digdog once every day from a whole life Eventually, I'll be digdog guy, but if I also play digdog once every day Are you like digdog once a day? I played digdog for like two hours yesterday while I was watching the hockey game I'll have to play digdog two times a day The thing is there are too many things that you like you add up a list Like I will do all these things once a day and eventually that's your whole fucking day Is doing the things you do once a day. Yep, and then your life is over I actually like what I get it good at digdog for I'm playing a lot of overwatch competitive deathmatch because it literally The beautiful thing about deathmatch that I didn't think about till I was playing it again because I haven't played a deathmatch game in a long time It literally does not matter if the people you're playing with are pieces of shit or not because they can't you're on your own They can't talk to you. They can't interact with you in any meaningful way. They are just targets There's no team. It's just you're on your own and in fact the shittier they are the better you feel about it Yeah All right, you can't get stuck on a shit-o team But anyway things of the day So this made the rounds like wildfire Probably thanks to the share zone the share zone has done a done its part to make sure that Everyone in the world is aware of boba so, uh horses as you know have really really Stupid names in horse racing. So I watched the first episode of umamusume The characters also have horse names just like these horses do they have to yes, that's how it goes You know like cumberbunch and toilet paper and there was a famous horse that was just called The horse we saw in australia. Oh, yeah, uh farlap farlap. No, isn't farlap the game farlap was the giant goddamn horse What's the a long shot is the game? Yeah farlap. Here's this wikipedia page the biggest goddamn horse ever This horse was like an elephant. Yeah, they they have him stuffed We saw it in the museum. He saw the taxidermy body and all I have to say is that you might think with our own eyeball You are surely exaggerating the size of this horse Like you stand next to a horse and it's big and farlap was up on a pedestal But no farlap is enormous. It is shocking how big that horse was It's obvious why the other horses were not as fast as farlap But the other great thing about horse racing is that there's the horse racing announcer Which is a professional position Yep And uh coming around the bend is bofa deez nuts And the thing about horse racing announcers Is that they have to with aplomb be able to say the names of these horses And not laugh at them And to this gentleman's credit try to do that job I could do that job To this gentleman's credit that job pays enough. I don't think so but he is capable of Announcing the fact that bofa deez nuts won the race Without at any point cracking up, which I don't think I would have been able to do Well, I think that you know that person has probably been announcing many horse races with equally bofa deez nuts Is probably not even in the top 10 funniest names. He's dealt with over the years. Yeah But this video really made the rounds in fact right before the show scott was like Here's my thing of the day and I was like that's already my thing of the day So I found another thing of the day Yep So we've done things of the day of videos similar to this before I guess this sort of like this genre of You know, uh because like the speedrunning community They just love to promote themselves and they're like they love to like talk, you know It's like they got this whole thing going on So there's plenty of videos on youtube where people explain How to do a speed run how these glitches work, you know There's like this whole genre of like super in depth explanation of video game things I love this shit like I I subscribe to like all these channels way more detail than you ever needed to know And there's a channel called summoning salt and it's a somewhat recently made channel and this channel explains the history Of particular speedrun. So he's like mega man too. He's like well the first recorded speedrun We have a mega man too is this guy with this time And then this person to figured out this trick and got faster and then this person got faster Just by working real hard and then this person figured out this trick and got faster and so on and so on And you know they described the drama of the people involved the tricks that they figured out You know the all this kind of stuff and some of these Are not too exciting the super metroid one, which you think would be the super exciting ones This is like the number one speedrun game Uh, it was not that exciting It was just pretty much like well It was this person and then this person practiced harder and this person practiced harder And then these two people went back and forth for practicing more and then this person practiced more and it's like All right, and this person got lucky. There wasn't any like development, right? But the video there's some really good ones on here. There's one about troco mountain mario kart 64 This one goes deep and it is crazy And why did this one person waste their lives with tens of thousands of attempts on to get this trick three times? Well, basically I feel like that trick like what he did was basically going for the full web in player of games Yeah, he got the full web. It was amazing that I was able to watch you and gain all the joy of that full web in like 15 20 minutes whereas you probably spent like years of your life getting for that full web But if you want to get all that enjoyment in the fame 15 minutes here's some videos on this channel I haven't even watched them all yet, but there are some good ones and there are some bad ones But I subscribe to this channel. It's good. Yep. I've been following for a while This is the same channel that did that The history of super mario brothers world four dash two and why that is such a crazy world It's just a real good channel in the matter moment The gig next book the book is homas the odyssey translated by emily wilson Which scott has not read even a single additional word of I assume No, I was on the there was a day when it was raining and I took the chuchu to work So I read it when I was standing on the chuchu. Yeah, the problem is I didn't I kept watching more wota koi On my on my phone. Oh you're into that, huh? I'm gonna finish it. It's not that long. I watch it, but the uh What's it called? So, yeah, uh, you know, there was some odyssey action happening All right, I'll catch up reading it so we can finish it and do the show Uh, seriously, if you've never read homers odyssey Read this translation and you will get it and understand it and more importantly enjoy it Probably much more. It's on my boy ag mem naan. Oh, yeah, leg of mem naan. It's my boy. It's a good dude Poseidon Awesome, my boy. Yeah, only because you don't want him to kill you. No, he's also my boy Also, uh, you might have noticed I'm uploading more and more videos, but gig nice presents board games I'm literally taking every tabletop game review we've done over the last like 14 years of gig nights And I'm cutting out just the reviews and putting them on youtube And I get a lot of views so if you're interested in seeing our game reviews Without even to listen to like a half hour of me talking about biking to work or like whatever we talked about 10 years ago on gig nights Some ridiculous news that doesn't matter anymore. How excited we are that team fortress 2 is coming out Then this is for you this playlist. I have done 51 of them so far And also if you're a fan of our anime stuff The playlist that has our gig nice presents utenna show is also there We put up a new episode recently There's 16 of those plus an amv that I made and two bonus episodes and we're gonna finish the show Hopefully before the end of the year. Yeah, we're gonna judge anime in a few weeks again Yeah, our other series judge anime by its cover We're going to review all the upcoming anime before it comes out because we're pretty good at that apparently Also this season I actually like I said I actually watched a couple episodes of a few of the more I watched more of the shows that we judged last time than in previous time So we got stuff to say I think the two best shows that I actually watched some episodes of From our judge anime so far. We're pup team epic I really like I keep watching it. It's good. Okay Though I will admit I don't always watch the second half Even though I appreciate what the second half is That and uh What was the other I forget one other one? I was actually intrigued by anyway You can tell how much anime Yeah, well made in abyss is the show. I actually like the most recently I don't I don't remember if we talked about that one or not. I don't know you might have Anyway, go see what we judged We've been waiting for fucking shapes and beats to come out as far as I can remember Forever so many many packs ago. I don't even know how many I feel like my entire life I've gone to a packs. I've seen shapes and beats. I asked them when it's gonna come out and they said I don't know standing there. He's got this game. The game is pumping fucking awesome music. It already looks great I'm willing to just buy it on these got four controllers and on the screen Are these little shapes and the shapes are dodging things and it's pretty much bullet hell Where all you do is dodge, but you don't shoot with a really bump in like super hexagon style soundtrack All the obstacles that you don't want to bump into are moving and appearing To the rhythm of the awesome bump in music And there's pretty much all you can just see the game in two seconds and know everything there is to know about it The only other thing you need to know is that if you press a button You do a very short teleport and that short teleport lets you a move fast to get out of the way And b teleport through an otherwise impenetrable obstacle without dying if you you know position yourself correctly And don't teleport into the obstacle which I often do which you will do very very often So we waited years we'd go to packs we'd see the game We go to another packs and see the game again The game was it following us around to every packs and every time we went to packs The game would change a little bit and it got to the point I feel like video ball appeared got released and then died But in the span of us waiting for shapes and beats that is correct Uh, the only game I've seen in more packs is is spy part. Yep, which has been in every packs West has come out yet but anyway, so Shapes and beats improved a little bit the first few times I saw it and then I said, you know what? I don't need to keep monitoring this game for every little improvement I'll just wait for it to be out and done every year. I just went up to the booth And I was like when's it coming out and they wouldn't say and then I would leave at the beginning of this year I walked past the booth and it was quieter because it packed south The guy is the same guy is there the developer guy and I said hey this game actually fucking coming out I've seen you like 20 times He's like he's like you should look for something soon. He's like, you know, he actually gave some firm Stuff and sure enough the game came out for switch and steam like last week. It's so good It's so good. So it's everything we expected all that time we were waiting They were polishing and polishing and polishing and polishing And that's what makes a good game is hella polish and this is pretty much exactly what it was The first day we saw it is your little shape Don't touch the obstacles this bump in music The obstacles move according to the music so you can predict them and you can also visually predict them too If in case you can't hear, uh, and The end it's fucking awesome. It's polished like crazy. So it's so perfect So what it reminds me of very heavily even though obviously there's a lot of differences because super hexagon was a very simple game Super hexagon is dodge the things. Yep, and it's bump in music Bumping music that changes and it's just shapes on the screen very, you know Geometrical solid colors, but super hexagon the the difference is is a not as much variation in shapes and beats No, not as much music as shapes and beats much smaller simpler games But it's scratched the same itch that shapes and you don't move You don't move freely in super hexagon You just sort of rotate left or right as you're sort of you know making your way out of the middle And super hexagon isn't always the same pattern every time. It's well depends on what mode you're in Right, but there's like I play it a lot in super hexagon There's like a few different patterns and they come at you in different, you know So it's like pattern one pattern two pattern one pattern and the next time you play it It'd be like pattern four pattern four pattern four pattern one, right? You know, you know So you memorize the individual patterns and learn to recognize them quickly whereas in shapes and beats You just memorize the level as a whole. Yep, and then it doesn't change even one pixel But shapes and beats like I just it's interesting to me how Equally my brain puts these two games in terms of if there's a if I want a certain kind of feeling in my life They both provide that feeling a hundred percent, right? So shapes and beats uh in his final form a has plenty of fucking songs Yep, there's no shortage of songs in it, and I'm sure there'll be more in the future They're all great. They did manage to get that fucking Mortal Kombat song in there They got the license, you know because he saw we saw that was like a demo at PAX was the Mortal Kombat song, you know And they already said there will be DLC so that I am confident We're gonna be able to get and we knew they were trying to get it in there But I thought it might not get in there do the licensing they got it in there. Yeah Yeah, that's worth it's worth buying it alone just for that one level So some other interesting things about it is that in terms of gameplay It is way more varied than you might expect. It's what it's like those That's what the polish is they polished it so much that it's like so creative It's like you think how many different ways? Can you make crazy rhythmic obstacles with shapes that are bullet? It's like remember that every level is completely different from every other level Remember that Atari game design panel we did a few times where we talk about Surround on the Atari and how that game it wasn't called sir. It literally Tron yeah, it was Tron basically but how that Atari game Fully explores every possible mode you could have for that very simple set of rules Shaves and beats does that for this concept and the levels are all So shockingly varied that you will really be impressed playing it Uh sometimes it's bullet hell sometimes It's just like these giant rhythmic heaven like stay in the right spot And the best is like there isn't I'm sure there isn't seem to be like a best approach to any one part Or no, there's never any like one way like ah the way to get through this to do this Sometimes you can get through something by teleporting a whole bunch Sometimes you can get through something by staying really quiet still and moving very slightly just to stay just away from the obstacle But then sometimes you're just moving around like crazy like Right, it's like sometimes you can just hide in the corner and not even move and you know It's like that strategy works sometimes It's like you can always approach something in a different way And it can work or not work who knows, you know Like sometimes where it seems like okay, there is only one way to do this Sometimes the execution really matters like okay, I have to teleport it There's a big disc rolling towards me with a hole in the middle I got to teleport into the disc and then teleport out the other side of the disc There's no other way to do this But you got to do it just right because in the middle of the disc is a solid ball You got it's like uh, and I would knew exactly what I had to do But the execution had to be tight on that part It's also a really good balance of Elements coming out of the screen and telegraphing what they're going to do in some way Coupled with bullet hell nonsense that's just coming at you and you had to just deal with it It's bullet hell, but it's not so hellish to the point where you're like fuck this game Because I'm really bad at schmops and bullet hells It's right on that border like it's like one step easier than super meat boy in terms of annoyingness of hellishness It's like you can do it I made it to the final boss and the only reason I haven't beaten the final boss is because I just haven't sat down and like done it enough until I beat it The story mode also has two really good things going for it. It has a pretty good checkpointing system Right, so that yeah You're not really going to have the only time that you're going to have problems with checkpoints is when you're actually fighting a boss And there are no checkpoints. You need the whole boss at once Which is also why I haven't beaten the final boss But the other cool thing is that they have just a casual mode you can turn on that gives you double life Yeah casual mode is like way easy. I'm playing a normal mode And I'm at the final final boss and I don't plan to turn on the casual mode I don't need it, but I'm glad they have the casual mode. Yeah, because remember tumble seed how there was no casual mode It was just balls. It was like mega man two style normal and difficult Yeah, so The other really cool thing is that it has a because this game is so pulsing thumping flashing in your face The intro does a little bit better the intro part of the game does a little bit better at the timing of the thumping and then You know the the levels still have it but the outside the levels it gets a little bit less. Yeah You know But it also the intro is just so high the first it has an it has an accessible mode so that you it'll tone down the flashing So if your photo sense the first thing that happens you turn on the game It says oh my god if you have seizures don't play this fucking game I'm like, yeah, but it has a mode that'll minimize that so some people who might be on the edge Might still be able to play this game and the fact that they went to that level even for a game like this is really good It was obvious you make this game. It's obvious that it is. Yep. It's basically strobe light the game It's also got a online multiplayer and local multiplayer Competitive and co-op basically like semi competitive. Yep And basically it's you and a bunch of other people on the screen at the same time all dodging stuff together I think you can bring each other back to life and it's just really really fun It also has yeah, it's like why would I want to bring someone back to life and competing against them? Well, you get ahead if you bring them back to life and then they you know Even though they get a chance to score some points But also the game with the multiplayer It's really set up with multiplayer casual mode combined to basically put it in this party mode Where this is the kind of game when you're at a house party You put it on one of the tv's with four controllers party mode Basically, just keep there's a party mode specifically and what it does is keeps playing music over and over it Yeah, stop You can just pick up controllers put them down doesn't keep score It just keeps playing shapes and beats keeps changing songs over and over I am confident at the next gojo laura party This is what's going to be in that tv instead of star wall Yeah, why not because i'm going to go put it on the tv before people show up to the party That's right The only things negative I can say about this game is that there are like a few Little wiggly nigglies that you know, it's like they polished it so much, but you can never be perfect, right? So one thing that bothered me is there's a level one level in particular But there are other places where it happens and where these spikes are falling from the ceiling and landing in the water In quotes and making a splash. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was real hard And well, yeah, but when the splash comes out there's a bunch of balls of splashing water in quotes Which are just pink balls of death The pink balls of death were actually see a lot of the game There are places where for example, there'll be a solid horizontal bar on the screen That's that's sort of faded pink and then it becomes solid pink and when they become solid It's when it kills you Faded one is the warning like don't stand here get the hell out of the way Yep, and that's great. That's perfect design and you think oh, doesn't that make it too easy? In this area where the splashing there are pink balls of water splashing Those pink balls were not solid pink. They were the faded pink Oh And they did not and they did not ever become solid They just stayed faded and landed in the ground landed back in the those shouldn't kill you. They don't kill you. Oh, okay, but Because they weren't like faded and then becoming solid It felt like they were gonna kill me So I was like avoiding them subconsciously and it took a while to realize. Oh Those aren't deadly at any time. Why are they even on the screen if they're not deadly ever, right? I would be like imagine if a horizontal faded bar appeared and just stayed there. That'd be brilliant You got I'd be so afraid of it. You got out of the way and it never became solid I'd be so afraid of that thing. It's just hanging out there a whole level. Yes, but that would be great I'm just saying is that that's kind of like, you know, there were parts of the game that were like that There were little a also the teleport, you know, you have to sort of Judge its distance and get used to it I teleport like you said I teleported into things a lot Also, if you teleport and you're not currently holding a stick in a direction Yeah, good. Good. God help you it always goes right on the screen east So there'll be times I'm like go left left left left left and then I press teleport And because I let go of the stick like a fraction of a second too soon I teleported to the right instead of the left Right. Yep. I feel like if you press teleport and you're not holding it in any direction at all You should teleport completely still So the last thing about this game that's worth talking about Is that it is available both on steam And out of the nintendo switch and which one do you buy it for I actually bought it on the switch I bought it on the steam because i'm gonna play it when i'm just going around I wanted to play it when I was going around because that's how I play super hexagon But the thing is I bought it on steam because it was three dollars cheaper. Yeah, I got a few dollars I thought there was a dlc, but I was wrong. Yeah scott scott was like, oh, I told scott like I bought the switch version He's like, oh, well, can you get the dlc? I was frantically googling like what fucking dlc is he talking about? Why can't I get it? Why is no one talking about this dlc? So on this on the steam page. There is no dlc. There's a dlc. It's a soundtrack of mp3's That's not dlc. That's just a soundtrack I know, but it looks like a dlc. So I paid three dollars for some mp3's So I paid a dollar more than the switch version. I paid three dollars less So steam is cheaper steam won't go away when the switch is no longer a console people play true Uh, it is probably, you know, there might be a situation where I was afraid. Oh the switch won't get updated But you know what tumble seed get all the updates the steam got in very good time because I tumble seed I'm confident when there's real dlc. It'll be available on the nintendo switch I have tumble seed on switch instead of on Steam because I wanted to play tumble seed in bed with two sticks. Yeah, but I can play, you know Shapes and beads just fine with anything with one stick. I didn't need the part of the reason Why I got on the switch is that I can still play it with four people on my tv that way I can play it with four people on my tv with myself. Well, my htpc scott is from late 2008 It's got a gtx Mine has an integrated intel because I took the video card out. I got a core i5 and a gtx 450 it had a 1070 but I took it out and put it in my desktop 450 star wall has frame rate issues Yeah, I'm gonna get one of those their nvd is coming out with these 1050s that are have three gigs of video ram I'm gonna get one of those from htpc because it doesn't require any extra power cables I'm gonna try to do a lot of party games on the switch for a while and then hold out one more cycle I don't think you can go wrong picking either console really. Um, it's just like the you know, it's just pick whatever Um, I was going to say well, I'll get on steam and if I really play it a whole bunch I'll get it on switch also because worth it But the single player is the kind where I beat it once and then I'm done So I don't really need to do that. There are a bunch of challenges and nonsense if you're a masochist and insane Oh, one other thing is there's an overworld in this game Oh, yeah The single player has an overworld like mario three style or low low three style Where you go from level to level right even though the actual gameplay is in the levels But the overworld actually has some gameplay even though you can't die or anything And it's the overworld is way cute and the pirate ship is the best Yeah, yeah There's a helicopter the helicopter is cute But the pirate ship is best and the overworld is like really it's it's like a really really good Overworld that has rhythm and it has cute graphics and it has a story And it's way good So I guess all we can really say is that one of the best one of the best Overworlds that isn't like, you know a Zelda overworld stuff actually happens So if you're a game developer the advice to take from shapes and beats is some advice that has Really been making the rounds in the industry for a decade now and it's always right You should spend more time polishing your game than you spent making your game Yeah, I mean I've you know we talk about this and also spy party being so many years in development But it's like that's why I have confidence spy party will actually be fucking good Although I read about what spy party is and even though it is I admit very very good It's just not a game that for me. Well, it's gonna have the street fighter problem. Yes Uh, the other thing I got to say is that you know the first time I learned this lesson people don't know half life One most people listening this may not even remember when half life one came out The story is real simple gave in and friends who worked at microsoft had a bunch of fucking money They said well, let's make games instead. So they made half life one the dream game And they it was delayed and it was hyped and delayed and hyped and delayed and hyped and delayed And they just said we don't announce no release date. It'll be ready when it's ready. Fuck you And sure enough because they spent so much time and let it be ready when it's ready and spent ages on it and delayed it forever When it came out in 1990 whatever the fuck late 90s It was god the game of god because they had polished that turd until it was no longer a turd. Yep So this game Proves that out yet again that polish kind of matters more than the core game As long as the core game is above a certain level of quality And the other thing to say if you're a game player, this is a must play game Yeah, and the thing I like most about this game is I feel like you know, I can spend the 20 bucks Play it. I'm gonna beat the single player as soon as I sit down to actually do it And then I won't need to play single player anymore. I'll be done But I'll still have this great multiplayer game for anytime a local party action Yeah, and I tested it out on some people who you know, you think this is a kind of a hard game, right? It's one of bullet hell I tested it out on people who do not have bullet hell skills They're not very good at games and they totally had fun Enjoyed the music, right? And had a good time and didn't die nearly as often as you would think you would just die constantly like dead Dead. Yeah, did not be fun. It's like no because it gives you lives It's like you just take you take damage before you die. It's not a one-shot kill even on hard mode So everyone can have total like bald tons of fun with this even if you don't normally like a bullet hell situation All right Bam we did a show Everything worked. We had a bunch of people watching