 All right we're ready. Do you need to let the one public in? Yep let me let him in. Well good evening everyone thanks for being patient with the technical issues we're going to kick off the March 10th 2022 airport advisory board hopefully last virtual meeting for a while. Michelle do you mind starting off and calling the roll please? I don't. Chairman Earl. Here. Board members Jordan. Here. Dean. Here. Robison. Here. Talis. Sorry I'm not going to attempt your last name. And Bliss. Here. Councilmember Martin. Okay you have a quorum. Thank you very much. First item on our agenda as always is our first public invited to be heard. I know we have one member of the public with us I don't know if you would like to speak make a comment now at the end or just listen in. It doesn't look like he has a microphone. Okay I'll move on then and if I am wrong and I miss something hold on I see connecting to audio there. I move on and if we need to come back to that or we'll have the other comment at the end I just don't want to not have some of the opportunity. Our next agenda item is approval of the minutes which we're deferring since we don't have minutes available so we will go right on to old business which is our financial update and I don't know who I'm throwing it to in the city staff to kick that off. I'm happy to do that so Chairman Earl members of the airport board Joni Marsh assistant city manager so I have been working with our accounting staff here the last couple of days to kind of get some information end of year starting new year but one thing you did ask I believe last meeting was to have a recap on the revenues for 2021 and where we had projected and where we ended up and they were able to get that to me today so in 2021 we had a projected revenue of $950,922 $400,000 of that so a pretty good chunk of that is the state grant for the south side utility project and where we ended up was a little over a million dollars so one million seven thousand five hundred seven thousand five hundred and forty dollars and I think a lot of that about fifty nine thousand dollars of that was a the grant that we received a federal grant that was not in the original projections and we also have a little bit of an uptick not much but a slight uptick in hanger lease revenue and then we also had a public use permit fee which I think predominantly would be from skydiving that was higher than anticipated so that's kind of where we've ended up there might be some additional adjustments I was told today by finance I think what I will try to do is have them finance put this in a format for everyone that I could bring back for you to see in that in April meeting and then for 2022 just so you know the projections that were in the budget system were about six hundred and seventeen thousand dollars is our projected revenue for 2022 and obviously that doesn't take into account some of the additional funding that we've come to learn in the last months that we'll be getting an allocation annually for the next five years plus any additional grants that we've applied for Johnnie if I may I believe that this year's budget does include the $54,000 grant from CDOT for the pavement and marking project I do see that Jeff thank you so that just hopefully gives you a little update of where we are looking to and I think it's important to update those revenue projections knowing that we'll see some additional funding that to the airport in 2022 so I will work with the finance team to see if they can assist and perhaps put this in a format that's a little more digestible than some of our reporting and then also months to date through Monday for expenditures our annual 22 operating budget is about $577,000 and $85 and we've expended about 46,900 of that budget so pretty lean so far this year we do have some outstanding invoices of course for snow snow plowing that haven't come through and then remember we have a pretty large salary savings because we currently are not don't have any staff for the two FTE that are in our budget so that number will change once we get folks on board I'm happy to answer any questions if you have any thank you Joanie and Jeff for that I'll just note the record looks like Steve Bliss joined us Steve good evening what questions does anyone have for Joanie or Jeff on the budget quick question yeah for Jeff how much is this current snowstorm end up costing us I'm just curious and how much have we used for snow removal so far so I believe we've of the the budget expenses for third-party contractor nixcavating I believe we've used about half of the budget this year on that what the city has been trying to do and managing those expenses is on these storms that only put down an inch or two of snow is to do all of the snow removal utilizing city staff so that we aren't having to tap into the third party nixcavating for that service okay cool thank you any other questions from anyone the um the budget if it's if I understood correctly that we were at $950,000 last year is did I understand correct $577,000 for this year so considerably lower that was because of the $400,000 state grant last year because of the grant and that was anticipated that was already accounted for in that batch okay and then I think the long fall that just never ended helped with skydiving now they haven't been able to much since it's been so cold but I would guess that though the increase on the permits was all that good weather extended their season so that's good Joanie Jeff on the skydiving question last year and this was last summer we voted to recommend a change in the rate for some of those permit fees I don't believe that ever moved forward to council um and I don't know it was delayed for a while and I honestly don't know the whole backstory is that going to be revisited at some point given that there was a you know at least a recommendation from this group for council to consider the adjustment chairman url so yeah I do I guess I do recall that that went forward the city attorney's office and the city manager had some significant questions about some of the options for council in terms of fee and rate changes so they asked that that item not be forwarded and then unfortunately we were able to wrap that up in a timely manner and so that will need to be revisited once we get a new airport manager hired and we'll bring that back to you but that did not go beyond the city attorney's office yeah I definitely like to make sure we're just on top of that kind of annual rate increase in general other questions from anybody right now okay hearing none then next item is listed here is board consideration of robert drill's order which is really amendments to our bylaws um you all have received a copy of these bylaws I believe it was on thursday or friday of last week um I'm going to pull them up if that's okay with everyone and just walk through them um if that works for the city staff is a good approach here and then we can address questions as needed um I will note here talus and I both had review on this Russell gave a phenomenal really detailed view and caught a lot of my typos as well as significant help from the city attorney's office um in putting this together so you know just want to kind of recognize that up front and then I'm going to try to do a screen share which is always a little bit dangerous but hopefully folks can see a word doc here with uh with everything okay so really I'm just going to walk through these quickly and then we can open it up for questions and discussions on any specific thing anyone has first section here all we really did was add the ability to have remote attendance in our meetings um clearly it's something we were doing so made it reflect that we also cleaned up a little bit of wording where we were missing words in the prior version under voting first sentence here I think was a grammatical mess um and Russell was kind enough to suggest more effective cleaner wording um similarly I made the adjustments in here this was the only place we had gendered terms so make them a little bit more generic around the member shall disclose their interest and that any conflict of interest is subject to all applicable city and state laws in addition from the city attorney's office we did talk through both proceedings and rules and procedures um when we got together this must have been our January or February meeting probably January meeting we in in consultation with the city attorney's office adjusted old business and new business to reflect informational items and action items and the idea here is really to separate out some of those items like say a financial update where we're actually not making a vote but it is a discussion item where we can talk through it with city staff amongst ourselves ask questions um and kind of inform the broader group versus these action items which is what we're doing right this moment where we will eventually be taking a vote on approving these bylaws it also makes it really clear what we're expected to be doing as a board um in each section so we know pretty clearly what our expectations are rules of procedure we talked through this in depth um that we kept the Roberts rules of order as we decided as a group we did add a sentence in here that if they're not strictly followed and we rarely strictly follow them because it's just not as necessary for us that that doesn't actually invalidate anything we do if we mess it up a little bit along the way we did put in for the first time the public invited to be heard which has been practice but has not been actually part of our bylaws and so this was not only put in but also the five minutes that we voted on back in January up from the current practice of three minutes duties of officers we originally had suggested that the chairperson would have the duty of setting the agenda for all meetings of the board in discussions with the city we actually can't direct the city uh staff on how to do that so we collaborate with them and set the agenda together um and the airport manager is still responsible for preparing the agenda and packet all the materials for for our meetings last change here we change the annual report from the first meeting of February that we deliver it since I at least in the four years I've been doing this we've never met that timeline to the first half of the year in accordance with what we're required to do in Longmont Municipal Code so both gives us a little bit of time but also recognizes that we're unlikely to always hit an ideal meeting with city council schedule I believe that's the only other change you'll see there's a addition of a number in addition to the word five there but I'm pretty sure that's all we have what questions anything anyone want to kind of discuss and go through this before you know the ultimate action here will be a motion to adopt these new bylaws any discussion city staff is there anything I missed calling out that is worth pointing out here chairman Earl I don't see anything um I know a tossy is also here this evening so following along so I'll defer to her if she sees anything I believe that you addressed all of the changes you know really no questions guys it looks good okay I'm going to take that as a positive I guess it looks good yeah absent any questions would anyone like to make a motion to adopt these bylaws I'll make a motion on that I'll second it okay Malcolm do you mind making saying what the motion is motion to adopt the new amended bylaws so I would say we motion to adopt the new amended bylaws Steve you still second that I still second that a motion thank you uh no other comments did I say a motion by the way it meant motion I figured both it was okay okay thank you we've now got a provision about the strictly following Robert's rules so I figured okay at that point um all those in favor can you please raise your hand Malcolm you're not on video so I'll ask you to either say I or nay I thank you nobody oppose no one didn't raise their hand there so motion carries we will I will go ahead and sign and we'll adopt these as our new bylaws going forward for next meeting forward so again nice work very nice work you guys yeah well done thank you um all for the comments the feedback on this especially again the Talis for working with me on the initial draft wrestle for a very thorough editing um and city staff of course Atassi and Chris for actually making it legal so thank you all we'll move along to sorry Steve yeah can I ask one question looking at my schedule for the rest of the year I'll be in I'll be in Europe and maybe for two meetings with that in mind I can I can still enter the the meeting on zoom in Europe is that correct according to your if we're having a virtual meeting I believe that would be correct how about a phone um representation so I I would defer to city staff because I don't remember what the city's electronic participation policy is exactly which would I think govern that but the other question Steve would be are we meeting virtually or in person and I think there's a reasonable chance we'll be back in person meetings uh the reason I asked that is because I was on another board and I was out of town and I did enter the meeting by phone and they had a speaker out so that I could hear everyone speaking at the at the meeting would that be possible we've at least not done hybrid meetings but Joanie and Michelle I defer to you guys so council has decided has done away with um hybrid meetings um and they're in person meetings so they don't have anybody calling in it's it was really a difficult when they did that um for staff to try and get that all hooked up so I would say no it wouldn't be you wouldn't be able to attend those meetings virtually if the if we are in person oh oh I see okay I understand yeah that's it thanks Steve so I'm going to move us on to probably our last time we have new business on the agenda and uh Joanie for a hiring update sure thank you Harrison so um so we have not made an offer yet I've done some additional um had some additional conversations this week and anticipate um finishing up next week uh our hiring process does require a background check and a drug screen prior to actually on hoarding anyone um and before we would make a public announcement so those are also things that um in a perfect world are quick but most often take up to two weeks so um mine and Jeff's goal is to um have that figured out and by your April meeting have someone on board so I think Melinda gave a very uh good analogy in some conversation around how the hiring process is going this this these days so even if you find a qualified candidate or maybe three you got to land one of them so um that's also um on my mind because I've had that happen in a few other departments where we um have offered the job and on and we're on try three now to hire someone for a position so it's definitely become difficult but I'm actually optimistic so as soon as I'm able to release it I will email you all as a board so you know cool Joanie would would you mind before I open up for comments just given a brief you know recap of the you know we had three candidates that had public meetings um was it last week week before um and I know a lot of board members weren't able to attend and I think it would be helpful just to kind of recap at least what those were about how they were attended um just some basics happy to do that and thank you to um yourself Harrison to Steve and to Russell for attending all of the meet and greets it was much it was very good to see you all there I mean and Marsha was able to attend a couple of them um so we did uh invite all the candidates back we had a series of interview panels um with additional um city staff the city manager also had an interview with each with each candidate and then we came over to the FBO and gave each candidate the opportunity to introduce themselves and to answer questions and kind of get up before the the group and hear what people were curious about at the airport about what they might do in that position I would say they were all kind of equally attended and I would say we had roughly sometimes I over count in my head but I would say we had at least 15 people in each one that's what I would say yeah yeah so I it was great to see some folks from not just the airport board but other airport users come out to um ask some tough questions and see who we were putting up before for the uh ultimate airport manager position and I've been following up with Harold this week as I said you know he did his own interview with each candidate so just trying to get some feedback from him as well um but I actually I think it went really well and I was glad to see that there was some attendance um who knew it would be standing room only but I forgot how small the FBO was too so anyone uh any board members questions comments on on the update Russell thank you chairman um since I was at all of them I figured I'd just give you guys um a short synopsis of each candidate I thought Joanie might but since she didn't uh here's what I wrote down um the first one is a former Leadville Colorado airport manager and currently the chief pilot for an operation at Centennial the second guy is more of a big city guy let's say yeah his last job was in Renton Washington um working in the operations department there and the third candidate um let's see what I wrote he uh is the youngest I believe but despite that youth he has a more experience than I expected with um aviation management corporate real estate and he was the airport manager in Central Illinois for several years before applying to this job thank you thanks Russell and I appreciate the recap and it was helpful to get some of your thoughts too since I missed out on the last candidate when we talked earlier this week and I can go further with uh you know what I heard from around the room if if anybody's interested in that I don't know how much we want to get into it I I think everyone got peppered pretty good with questions from the community at least in the ones I was in uh Steve please uh yes I'm I'm really disappointed I missed that but I was out of town it was my birthday and you know sometimes you can't you can't sidetrack that when somebody's making other arrangements but my question is are one of them is is a pilot are the other two pilots as well it's my understanding that they're not no no the third candidate uh said he had a strong desire to become a pilot but not yet but only the first guy from uh Leadville is the is the current pilot incorrect me if I'm wrong the second was an air a military air traffic controller is that correct correct yeah tower control thank you absolutely was the public um I guess what was the takeaway from the questions the public asked and I thought I saw that Lopez had a meeting afterwards and maybe reviewed it as well but I haven't seen anything come back from that um do you feel like the the pilot community showed up with good questions and do you think it helped clarify things do you feel it took it in the right direction I guess I could weigh in on that uh Jeff if you want to as well um the public was least kind to the youngest candidate I'll say that um as soon as you walked in the room you could hear the old guys start muttering as I told Harrison earlier today but like I mentioned uh he has a surprising amount of experience for his apparent youth and I thought he was by far the best communicator clearest spoken and best calm responses to Ron peppering in with his unhappiness basically okay and I stayed for the local meeting too I believe that they voted to say we don't want any of these guys and to start over which uh you know I was just kind of listening at that point but they uh if they had to they told their head uh local guide that they liked the first candidate because he was a local Colorado person and Leadville handles a lot of military stuff like we do and um that is interesting is he the same guy that signs our certificates I don't have mine where I can see it um when we land up there the uh that's interesting I'm I'm sorry that they didn't feel like any of the candidates were um they're that's that's tough you got to work with what we've got and uh you know it's just a starting starting point when you bring somebody in that's the beginning of the journey not the end so is that what ended is that what they ended up sending to you Jeff was that they wanted to start over I don't remember specifically Lopez I can tell you that the comments that I solicited to those people that RSVP'd that the input was quite varied to what you had mentioned several people saying you know none of them and some was all different ones so there there was not um I just got a lot of different input so as as I have conveyed to Joanie and the city I think all three of them are qualified in different ways and would bring different strengths to the table I don't I don't think the city would go wrong with hiring any one of the three and they'll get different values out of one or the other yeah Eve go ahead what were some of the big objections were there any the people that said that people weren't qualified just said they weren't qualified no nothing specific Steve I obviously didn't see the comments that were sent to Jeff so I can't comment on that but a lot of the questions were what you would expect I think in some of the meetings they were leading questions and frankly I was actually some of my comments back to Jeff were focused on how people answered the questions and dealt with I'd say a little bit of combative um you know lines of attack from from the community because I think that actually showed a lot of what their character was like so I found it illuminating to see how they would reply to that because we know you know even in these meetings there's a lot of there's a lot of commentary from us and from the public in all directions and certainly in the day to day they're going to get that so I actually found I found the exercise really valuable to see how they were going to reply to respond to some of that I do appreciate that opportunity I was also unable to attend and any of them I thought maybe I could catch Thursday but I wasn't able to but that was really a welcome process from the city and I took a bit to put that together I know and I just appreciate that that some of you were able to exercise that that chance to go participate like that that's that feels very new and unique in the hiring process so that was a step a step forward for sure so appreciate that I'll echo that I really hope we don't have to do this again for a very long time yeah yeah if we do I'm sure we would all have a little feedback on that but I really appreciate that we were brought into it and could provide that input and the public even you know maybe just yeah created hopefully not a distraction but at least at least they got they saw we did want to attract a candidate but at least they heard what was going on what was on people's minds so it's a fair fight anything else there before we before we move on Dallas yeah I have a question do you think that the group that you spoke with would ever be satisfied with anyone sorry I belong I'm a dues paying member I don't know I don't know I apologize for laughing I really shouldn't have but I will just say that all three of these candidates are past airport managers they are used to airport crowds and every airport tenant crowd had the contankerous ones that can never be happy and some that just like to stir the pot I did feel like that there were some good good questions asked by several people and fair questions in the audience and some that just wanted to complain so yeah I got a question for you Jeff it seemed like the week of the interviews you know the the email said we're interviewing these two guys Monday and Thursday we're going to decide Friday so you got to get your comments in and now you know it's going to be another three or four weeks before we decide what what changed there all that generous thanks commissioner Robison so you know it's not an easy decision so as Jeff said I thought we had three good candidates there were some there were lots of feedback from not just city staff but also the city manager on where we're headed with this hire and also I you know part of this is up to me and I've had us a number of other items that have really needed my attention in the past week so part of that is simply my own workload interfering with getting things completed so I will take the blame for that I'm not that there's any blame I just you know I understand that you have to land and like you said earlier but just surprised by the change in the timeline so thanks for that see if you have a question for Jeff are you still on board down until the decision is made my contract is through the end of March have indicated to the city that I will remain to support them but I'm not going to be able to at the same level after April 1 so if it's coming up every other week or doing more remote type work happy to continue supporting but also I'm going to be out of the state for a month and a half starting early May so need to have someone in in the seat you have a question for Johnny no idea um if the person that gets hired decides to back out or they're not a good fit do we have a way to put somebody in quickly to fix this or that we start all over again not that that would happen but just curious yeah that's a great question Malcolm so we do have a six month probationary period at the city for all new hires which allows for both I think the staff member and supervisor to determine if that's a good fit within those first six months and I think certainly I would not want to start this process over again within that six months so that's why I'm maybe being careful and cautious in my final in the final selection of the the airport manager I also would not be opposed to looking at professional management services of the airport again if that happened I think this has actually been very helpful to have Jeff here at the airport and certainly know that there are resources that we could turn to if that happened again cool that's a good question okay cool not seeing other comments Jeff I'm going to turn it to you then and let you do some of your updates and undoubtedly I'll have questions for you thank you chairman Earl I actually don't have a lot on my list since our last meeting it's been a little bit quiet for those that are around the airport the bathroom in my building the sewer line broke due to age the FBO consistent with their agreement attempted to fix it and had challenges with their contractor so we were able to call the the city staff in and they were able to fix it in a couple days so I think last Friday maybe maybe over the weekend that got fixed we did have our tri-annual maintenance done on the AWAS about a week and a half ago two weeks ago and the same day like hours after they left the wind sensor broke Shane with Aerosphere contacted me and says the wind's blowing in one direction but the AWAS is saying it's blowing the other so fortunately before that company left town because they're they're not just right here locally they were able to get back out and fix that I did learn through the process that our AWAS is the oldest AWAS in the state of Colorado so in some discussions when we're going to be looking at how to spend the FAA infrastructure monies of 295 that AWAS made maybe to move up because there are some parts on our AWAS that may not be available if they should break certainly we don't want that to happen Jeff can you just define AWAS for non-pilots I'm sorry automated weather observation system and that's what reports the the wind the temperatures the sky conditions the what types of weather at the airport and you can go online and see it digitally you can listen to it as you're flying in on a radio and so it's really created a lot of eliminated a lot of safety issues at airports of unreported weather conditions it's very helpful for pilots the other strange issue that I've been dealing with people seem to not be able to find the dog park on the north side of the airport and has been using our south field as a dog park each time I've gone over there they seem to say well I've been doing this for 20 years and everyone and no one has said anything or or that or they told me you know I was told I could do this like well no you can't it's not a dog park so we've got enough small furry animals running around on the airport we don't need more without a leash so that's that's really the you know not a lot's happened this month I'm happy to answer any questions that anyone has questions for Jeff your update was so good I was going to say thank you about the animals I was taxing and there was a dog running alongside me when he was supposed to be fetching a stick and that's a bit unnerving because the owner was right there so if anything had happened there there would have been all kinds of bad and then if anybody's interested I call the awas from my phone a lot of times listen to it and it's 303-684-7545 so for those who want that's on my favorites on my phone before I head over to the airport to hear what's going on that's pretty interesting that ours is the oldest in the state so it must have come from when the airport was in Roosevelt Park and they must have moved it out that's pretty it's pretty interesting thank you for everything you're doing as always we just really appreciate your attention to detail and getting us through this period and really grateful for everything you're doing to get us get our new hire and get everything positioned so the new hire can come in and start you know right at the threshold instead of having to go back and clean up things since David's absence and so just really grateful for everything you're doing really do appreciate it thank you appreciate it yeah Jeff I'll second that and since I'm not sure if you'll be with us at an April meeting or not given your uh your other priorities but we really appreciate you coming in and setting us up for a successful path forward with someone permanent and a lot of those I don't even call them unpopular actions you've had to take to to write the ship and and get us on the right path and really appreciate that my pleasure and I hope to be here at April at least uh come come to one last one with the new airport manager so good one you're always welcome to come as a member of the public too and you know give us some feedback and tell us how we're doing so yeah you can come always welcome thank you anyone else well in lat we'll move on we've got a final public invited to be heard we've still got the one member on and I don't know if they I don't know if the audio was connected or not honestly so I'll just pause and see if uh anyone wants to make a comment from the public I'm gonna take that as a no and move on but if I did miss again please interrupt me here and we'll absolutely have a comment um we're on to board council and staff comments and I'll start with board members anyone even have any comments you'd like to make this evening mr. Robison thank you mr chairman um one of my duties from Melinda's list from the last meeting is the squawks about the airport and one thing I heard when I was at the local meeting is several people said that the pattern at the airport the traffic pattern for the airplane seems to be getting wider and wider and wider and they think that maybe well this is conjecture on their part but flight schools from bromefield come out here to do their touch and goes are flying huge patterns and so they wanted me to bring that to you guys and uh figure out how to solve that problem yeah so mr. Robinson I had a meeting yesterday with one of the airport tenants that had the same concerned issue and it's not just bromefield instruction but also longmont instruction um and you know I don't listen all the time to unicom but uh I do listen to it I have not heard people getting mad at one another but he said it happens quite regularly um and so what I'm going to be doing is identifying contact people at all of the flying uh schools in the Denver area and send to them the uh pattern information and noise abatement information that we have on the airport's website and make sure that that is you know provided to them and encourage them to you know disseminate to their instructors and and to their students to try to get a handle of that as I know you well know and I'm sure many of the other board members may or may not know that the city does not control the airspace above our airport we can't tell people how to fly or where to fly uh that is all under the jurisdiction of the FAA but we can encourage them to be good neighbors we can encourage them to operate safely give them recommendations um but we don't have really any enforcement mechanism other than education I personally uh just fly 20 miles straight in every time so I don't have to worry about it but um they one suggestion they did have was they thought there was a diagram or picture of the pattern that used to be on the website and they can't find it now so is that something Joni that we could pre-institute or maybe you know Jeff so it is there it's just sort of buried um and so in the meeting yesterday I had with the gentleman he recommended trying to you know bring it up a little higher level on the the front and so I have that on my notes to do okay great thank you on that topic Jeff can I when you have that change and appreciate what you're doing maybe that's one to highlight in a stakeholder communication as well would also make it very visible that you're that we're addressing it you bet other board member questions comments council member Martin anything for me this evening not tonight all right uh talents yeah I forgot to say um Harrison you're so kind to say that I participated in the bylaw thing I did very little compared to how much you did so thank you for all the work that you did in leading that so I am not worthy of praise on that effort so thank you well no you you are you were you were involved in it but thank you as well for the kind words I appreciate it uh city staff members anything that we haven't covered that you'd like to bring up Joanie please yeah and chairman I'll just two things um and you both of these you received via email one from me and one from Michelle so one is a survey um that the clerk's office is asking um all of the boards and commissions to give some feedback on going back in person you know we do still have potentially autoimmune compromised folks on boards and commissions who may need to look at other options so we'd like to know so that we're making the best decision for everyone um and as Michelle noted council is going back in person with masks optional um based on your comfort on our March 29th meeting I would anticipate based on what I've heard from you all um the past few months as you would like to return in person at your April meeting so that's kind of what I have in my mind but if you would be able to take the survey it's only about five or six questions that would be appreciated and then also today I know um last month I wasn't here but I know Michelle talked a little bit about the new board and commission interview process and I think she emailed you all kind of the guidelines today so if you want to take a look at those I know that we will be one of the boards who has an open seat that would be doing um these interviews I believe in May Michelle is that correct yeah so just wanted to make sure you saw both of those items if you didn't see them or have questions if you have questions on the board or commission interview please um email Michelle and she can kind of help walk you through some of those since she will be our all everyone's partner in that process um and then the link if you could do the survey that would be great and as I said I'll anticipate seeing you all in person in April I had a question sorry let me go ahead I had a question on the interview um because I did read that my seat is is up um this is my last year and having gone through that process and then having interviewed with the city as well um I could definitely picture the process myself so for the um as an outgoing board member is somebody like me going to be in the May interview or just the November interview or how who decides that and how do we know um if we're part of that process who who makes that decision and and how do we hear about it that's you know just knowing that at some point I probably will be a part of that process because my term is coming up do you want to answer that Johnny okay um so it's it's up to the board so as we as we put in here that um we would recommend doing a subcommittee maybe two members and it could be the the chair and the vice chair it could be the chair and another board member or it could be the whole board so that's up to you guys if you want to discuss out of the at the April meeting um and vote on that and and then you could just have the subcommittee interview in May those applicants that have applied Michelle where the applicant is solely for our vacancy correct then Melinda uh Steve and I are all our terms all expire December 31st so we would be at November December time frame right so then you'd have another committee you could appoint another subcommittee for the end of year so that you guys wouldn't interview yourselves um and then obviously we go from there so okay so the interesting so you uh the goal would be to have um board members interviewing for board I am I'm done I've termed out so I'm in the final days I think Steve and Harrison you got Harrison you must have another term I'm guessing yeah I think I hope so okay good so I'm the only one I'm terming out and so I'm not up for consideration so I can certainly interview without bias but also if you want the current board to be a part of that so that's interesting the um the subcommittee and we can decide about that and decide within the group perfect right yeah wonderful thank you I would certainly suggest that's a um action item on our next month to actually decide as a group how we'd like that um Jeff did I see your hand up there's how can I go no I was just going to ask if a hotel address will account for residency in your case yes you've got squatters rights that's who we're talking about any uh anyone else there all right well I I'm through our agenda we've gotten through all our comments um thank you everyone for uh for a productive meeting and getting some new bylaws and we will look forward Joanie to an update on hiring hopefully when we reconvene next month we'll uh we'll at least have some news and hopefully someone joining us I guess that would be a question is um when the decision is made and the offer accepted and all the contract signed um could we be notified by email about the decision prior to the meeting okay absolutely I will okay this as soon as it's all far enough along that I can do that and HR gives me the green light I'll okay make sure that um the airport board gets the first email wonderful thank you sure and then I then I will follow that out fairly shortly in the stakeholder communications okay fantastic thank you both for that and Jeff I appreciate it the stakeholder communications you're doing broadly so yeah thank you for that and Joanie, Phil for you guys supporting that and kind of making that a priority for all of us so thank you all right well seeing no one else here we'll go ahead and adjourn for the evening thank you all for uh for joining and we will see you next month thank you thank you thank you good night