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The patreon really helps me you know Support it really helps me, you know do my day-to-day Pay the bills, you know, I appreciate that man HMP full sudden evil behind bars Okay, okay Shout out to the first responders man. Appreciate it. Oh, man Let's get into this man. I think I watched the full. I don't know if I watched it. No, maybe not. I don't know I didn't watch so many We'll find you ever sentence to life in prison That's a crazy way to start a documentary. I'm gonna hold you could be sent to one of the most feared places You've never heard of If you go there society pretty much has whacked its hand of you. Hey If you go there society pretty much has whacked its hand of you HMP full sudden Stuck in the middle of some of the most dangerous violentest and courageous criminal I just watched the documentary. Where are you going? But you'll join some of the worst inmates in British criminal history The most serious people in the country who end up in prison end up there You could be on a wing with one of the UK's worst ever serial killers He was frightening. There is no doubt about that. You could even come face-to-face with a child rapist. He was relentless Britain's worst pedophile He's still alive It's a place where even guards aren't safe I genuinely feared for my life. I didn't think I was coming out of there I'll just stop store Home to nearly 600 convicted criminals, this is HMP full sudden a Prison built to house Britain's most dangerous men HMP full sudden is a high-security prison purpose built in 1987 It was created for the most dangerous and difficult category a and category B prisoners People who presented a real risk to the community were they to be let out in 1965 two of the great train robbers had escaped from prison as a result of Victorian prison such as Wakefield Wombridge Scrubs Holland Parkhurst Which were effectively turned in to category prisons But one of the problems of that of course was that security had to be Hung on old structures that were not built for that particular purpose as a result They built some new prisons and full sudden was one of those prisons Full Sutton was to contain the worst criminals in Britain And so it needed to be constructed with a formidable design This would be a massively secure prison They had four units that were built when the prison was first opened and known as a courtyard design It was designed not like a Victorian prison Which usually had a central hub and then straight wings off it full satin by contrast was designed in a slightly for way Which many was made in where quadrangles Basically they were on a square there was no windows cells either side and an exercise yard in the middle And there were walls round them on all sides They would also then have the prison walls and the other barriers that would prevent escape Prisoners they're going to find it very intimidating It's never had missed. I like these they keep suggesting these man. Okay, which is remarkable It's a secure regime Sentenced to life here. You'll have been convicted of the most heinous of crimes Killers serial rapists child molesters if you like Full satin has the worst of the worst full Sutton has been home to some of Britain's most notorious criminals Inmates who've been locked up here include Dennis Nielsen is among Britain's most famous serial killers Dale Craig and The Manchester gangster who killed two uniformed police women Dale Crager. I don't know. Yeah, I gotta get my little notes out man but it's I gotta add on to what we've been the Manchester gangster Dale Craig and The Manchester gangster who killed two uniformed police women David Mulcahy the so-called railway rapist who became a serial killer the media just be giving them names, huh? Daniel Rostevo hair fetishes to brutally killed a lady in Bournemouth So they derive normally by sweatbox bus which brings them in If you're a category a inmate entering full Sutton, you'll arrive at the prison under the highest level of security We get to the main gates of the prison, which are electronic. They move to the side We move in then somebody comes out of the office with like a stick and a big mirror on it So they can look underneath the van to make sure nothing's being brought in That after the community They get taken in through to reception where they get booked in They get searched you'll go through the process of being stripped searched You're put set clothing on Get your bag, you're gonna get the bag in there You're gonna get the bag in there You're gonna get the bag in there You're gonna get the bag in there You're put set clothing on Get your bags when they go through they'll have these machines with all your toiletries your food This dude have been in every prison Just to see if it picks up any metals or any hidden phones and that kind of stuff And then they'll be taken by the reception staff Through to the whatever wing they're gonna be living on Walk to your wing Full Sutton's austere design will give an unsettling sense of what it feels like to be an inmate at this prison You have to go through a lot of security between sort of 10 and 15 doors and gates from the entrance to where your wing is As soon as we went inside the building It very quickly became Disorientating I had no idea what floor I was on which where I was pointing north south east west I bet you there's a purpose for that, you know, there's obviously a purpose for that when I used to live in Chicago and I would Bring anybody to my house or go or when I was going home I would never take the same way and sometimes I was just zigzag through streets So if nobody could remember where I lived exactly nobody could nobody could follow me home It's a purpose to I had no clue. It's airy people like where are we? you liked a Crew we made it new and claustrophobic and quite depressing It smells strange as well Even the prison officer who was taking me to the wing said the same thing. He said, can you smell the place? And I could and he said you just get used to it I didn't get used to it in the whole time that I was there There's just a stench and a smell that makes your stomachs a Son of a bit just me, but I think there's many men Who tell you the same thing? It's like it sucks you in it feels like you've been sucked into avoid your legs of your wobbly Do you miss the best way I can describe it? Walking on to a wing can be pretty daunting You'll be looking up you'll be looking down who's there who's there if you don't know your way around If it's all new you don't know who's gonna be there You want to meet old friends because you want to feel safe in this new environment because it is frightening There is no doubt about that On your first day on the square wings of full Sutton You'll soon realize that it's unusual layout poses some serious problems The courtyard design has designed folks such as inaccessible areas or areas where people can escape surveillance You've got all these little corridors all these little stairways. I didn't know where I was There's no natural light or anything like that and the way they're laid out to Walk landing to landing you have to go around blind corners There was no windows. There was nothing once you were in there. You could have been beaten to death and nobody would have known People would ambush you People would just hold you up and rob you. Do you know what you can have weeks and stuff where it's just chilled out It's it's not telling me. We just did the pie. I just seen your pocket I mean, I just reacted to the podcast with all your stories. It's a crazy dude that found God Salute though Never too late to change. I think really happens and then you can have moments where it's just constant There's been times when people have had hits putting them and they've don't even know who did the hit Because someone just put their arm around the corner and threw the water in their face and just vanished There are places that you could hide not like a Victorian prison which usually has straight wings Which made it easier for the prison officers to see a wing It's interesting that the old Victorian designers Probably had a better idea of how to control desperate men than someone in 1987 designing a new maximum security prison Next Britain's most violent inmates turn their anger Towards the staff. I genuinely feared for my life. I didn't think I was coming out of there HMP full-sutton is a top security prison in East Yorkshire and on your first day here You'll have to quickly adapt to its strict routine Daily life at full-sutton is very routine based Around seven in the morning There's an unlock. So everybody is let out. They can get that hot water. They can empty their bins They can get a shower do all of their sort of daily life essentials, basically Then the majority of prisoners go to work. There's a labor board Which tells you where you're employed and you've got landing one landing to landing free the cell numbers My name your name prison number your place of work At times there was things like a braille Workshop a motorcycle repair workshop painting and decorating and then there are jobs on a motorcycle repair workshop Who's motorcycle that are repairing like who's like members of the public or Staff or who's motorcycle that are repair the wings cleaning the wing keeping its ID It's actually similar to a normal society really other than you can't just wander off on your own At 3 p.m. Everyone will come back from workshops Anomaly allowed a few hours of Sort of Association time during that time they can play pool they can interact with each other as much as they want You can socialize cook your food and go on the telephone go to the gym or wherever. That's the highlight of the day And then what happens at about seven o'clock is they all get locked up for the night The night staff coming and then everyone is locked up until seven o'clock the next morning a lot. That's not like real life We wake up at like seven in the morning go to work come home Chill unwind Go to the gym eat Talk to the only get on the phone And if you a certain age a bedtime I'm going to my bedroom watching TV on y'all Despite being in prison There is one kind of freedom the inmates at Full Sutton can experience Okay in full sun you're allowed to cook your own food and some people are really good chefs And they can cook really really good So like you'll get some Jamaican guys can cook some serious food Some Asian brothers cook some serious food Some people are living better in there with their food standards than out in society. Yes Because there's nothing else to do apart from the cook and you can walk about the wing with a nine inch kitchen blade Did you know about the top security prisons? You go in the office sign out a nine inch kitchen blade. It's gonna imagine how paranoid everyone is Knowing you in the top security prison walk about with big nine inch kitchen blades They know not to use that knife to stab anyone because otherwise they're gonna take it away from all of us They'll go and get their own knife to stab someone if they want to stab someone some people are just sensible That makes sense that makes sense You know i'm saying don't put don't put don't put don't put your little get backs of wars On the on the on the bellies of other people that's hungry You know i'm saying if we get these knives taken away then what? Then that's really you gonna get beat up probably if you get that knife taken away You you you probably Whatever you got going on personally if you use that knife it's going to be worse for you probably I've got the head screwed on You know that it's to go down that route. It's not going to be nice for them. They know if they go down that route They're never going to get out So they're sensible they want to use their head get in do your jail and get out of prison that's sensible But to make it through your first day You'll still need to watch your back as a violent attack could be just around the corner The stress level it's just crazy if you look at someone for too long They'll start thinking what are you staying at us for you must be plotting something Next thing you know they're running in your cell and stabbing you're up because you looked at them wrong Everywhere that I went I'd have at least two biro pens on me that I could use for weapons the whole environment of it You you end up boing into it extreme violence can come out of nowhere. It could be anything It could be spontaneous It could be someone made a mistake and then it says sorry it can come from anywhere I would say the majority of Incidences start off as very minor incidental things Me and my friend went to the um servery And we were the last at the servery And just rocky biscuits, you know the rocking chocolate biscuits everyone No else have got one But there was none left for us when we got there We nearly nearly went into a riot over a chocolate rocky biscuit Things that are nothing to me and you at the time like the huge in prison And little things become massive things and people are willing to kill you over just the slightest of stuff And and you become like that too. Well first evening. I got into that prison. I had my face Punched in I went to get my food and this guy that I didn't know said hello to me You said hello I was all he said and I said hello back and the guy just walked up and smashed him in the face And told me that this guy was in for some sexual crime or something and never talked to him again next time I'm gonna get stabbed violence. It was always there I think the theory must be that if you're gonna put Really violent men together There is a danger That they will become even more violent in other words pouring petrol on the flames Facts of their inherent violence With dangerous men and makeshift weapons Full-sutton can be a ticking time bomb and there's only so long the staff can keep control It is inevitable that things will slip through the net in a place like full-sutton No matter where you work in a prison you are outnumbered Some of them just enjoy violence and if they want to take the wing over or create problems There is not what you can do quite frankly And it was even worse when this prison was first opened When you walk into a new prison it's chaotic It ain't got a clue Staff don't know each other the staff don't know the prisoners the prisoners don't know the staff the prisoners don't know the other prisoners Problems have arisen for very obvious reasons Three years after full-sutton opened These issues became too big for the prison to handle Whether it was by design or default We ended up with a lot of fairly new officers in particular Who were basically fresh off the street working with these very difficult types of offenders For some reason we had a bad mix of prisoners as well on some of the wings They tried to intimidate staff successfully on many occasions and A lot of the managers left the uniformed officers just to get on with it and um quite frankly we we lost the prison Good luck On the wings went around To do what we wanted to pre-drinking, setting drug It was just mental Losing control would make prison officers jobs at full-sutton even more challenging In effect prisoners are Kind of doing what they want Searches aren't done properly It sounded like you just got a hope You know of course y'all outnumbered, but you got to just hope that prisoners who Stay in line Look forward to their release date and try to not get in trouble You know i'm saying because the only thing keeping prisoners in check is I don't want more time At the end of the day, right I just don't want no more time added to my sentence So let me walk a straight narrow path and only defend myself when I have to That's what that's sort of sound like these a lot of these prison guards be banking on at these cat a's But sometimes man, they don't care make staffer be intimidated Seawing as it was then full of lifers eventually got burned down Seawing they ended up won for about a week not prison officers were behind shields You know, you didn't want to go to work in the morning In the early 1990s Prison officer paul found himself fully exposed in the struggle in prison You have like a tv room these two guys stayed in there said they weren't coming out So I went in there to try and reason with them. The next thing I know was they'd slam the door behind me They got the big uh table legs smashed them up and threatening me. I'm gonna know my school's gonna be next I was trying to be confident trying to be relaxed But inside the stomach was chilling. My knees were rocking a bit. Um, it was not a nice feeling at all And I genuinely feared for my life. I didn't think I was coming out. Yeah, I bet you did. That's creepy. That's a crazy situation It can be very intimidating A lot of the prisoners there are very tall very masculine man Sometimes they can use that almost against you You have to just stand your ground and try your hardest to really put on that brave face that none of this is really affecting you Principal officer she came down to the wing I don't know whether there's some gangster rule that you don't hit women or you don't you know treat women in that way but thankfully She managed to persuade them to come out Though Paul's ordeal was over life at Fullsutton was never the same again That must have been I did lose quite a lot of confidence after that. I still get quite emotional even thinking about it now because it's um You know, it was a very emotional time for me But staff at Fullsutton There's only two ways after after math of that situation could have went you could have been like like him very emotional couldn't cope Couldn't really get back into the swing of things Couldn't like, you know, I'm saying or you can overcompensate get real mean real strict real, you know, which It's a prison man if you're throwing around your your weight they're gonna test it eventually No matter who you are Sutton would be tested again This time by a volatile inmate from London convicted of attempted murder John Onyomichi, he was a man for whom violence was second nature. He was to some extent a career criminal. He had track record of violence use of drugs He'd been in prison before had scant regard for authority He has this extraordinary outburst In Ealing where a policeman had a community support officer So he's patrolling with him had his throat cut In fact, it was astonishing that he survived. This was brutal Vicious entirely unwarranted attack And quite rightly he was given a very long prison sentence as a result In 2011 Onyomichi was jailed at the old Bailey for a minimum of 25 years for the attack During his sentence he would arrive at HMP Full Sutton I met John on my first day as an officer in Full Sutton He was just a mountain of a man. Absolutely huge The way she's describing these dudes. Oh, hey Well, hey You feel me? Really intimidating I met him on a number of occasions. He's a serious man if you're gonna fall out of him You're gonna have to have to end up doing something really serious. Otherwise, he's gonna have you He just towered over everybody He was such a large presence of a man that you couldn't help but look and wonder What happens if he decides he doesn't want to be around you or doesn't want to do what you say Where where do you go from there? Hey, that boy had his intimidation Badgers equipped and on Hall of Fame That's what it sounds as into his sentence Onyomichi would be back in court this time for an attack that had shocked Full Sutton He decided that he wanted to take over Ewing. He was difficult to restrain by staff Was fighting back And was out of control Hall crown court was shown footage of the shocking attack at Full Sutton Which took place on august the 9th 2018 Onyomichi goes on this rap page. He hits a prison officer over the head from behind with a heavy pan steals his keys Starts a fire in the kitchen piles magazines and Shoes and puts a chair it sets light to that The attack went on for eight hours But this footage lasting 10 minutes was played in court What would happen if somebody was Sort of kicking off in that manner is the wing staff deal with it With the size of him and his level of He had wing staff on on on high alert. He had y'all shivering. Y'all had to out y'all had to call Somebody y'all had to call police interceptors to come get the violence. It was extremely. Y'all had to call FBI hard for wing staff To even make an attempt He was using pool cues and pots and pans he could get a hold of to attempt to attack other prisoners and staff He's really out of control And the prison officers can't cope. I mean not surprisingly. He's an incredibly intimidating figure And he's clearly out of his mind presiding Judge david trenberg was shown the shocking footage of onya michi's rampage Evidence that it was so out of control a special team of riot officers needed to be called in They are the elite officers. They are sent to the most dangerous situations And they're given the most training. This is a particularly extreme example Of their use took a hundred officers to control or attempt to control one man the footage showed down Oh, you mean to your head and like that Man mage which cost the prison 15 000 pounds It has to be serious for a hundred officers to go in it can't be just somebody's throwing a little bit of a tantrum or From the dummy out. It has to be a real threat to life The cctv footage Showed that with a hundred specially trained officers on the wing Onya michi became increasingly frantic He jumps onto the netting between two parts of that particular wing and runs along it He's out of control He's doing whatever he wants and he's quite prepared to hit anyone with anything. I think at this point. He was just having fun At this point, he knew he had got y'all out of y'all element He knew Especially like he was man on deck at that point just to get his own way Finally he falls through the netting the prison footage captured this dramatic moment He fell from the railings and ended up injuring himself It's like a really solid staircase that he fell down onto and and just got up and Almost continued, which is quite scary Our man can you know survive something like that and and just get up and continue wanting to Granted it was not that far before I've seen it. We just all looked at it And now if that staircase what there he ain't falling to that staircase and he fell like straight onto a pool table Kind of looked like he broke his ankles, but I even then it takes some time to subdue him The underlying was very vividly that a certain units in full sudden There were simply too dangerous In the end we were able to take back ewing But it was a long day. He did manage the cause quite a lot of damage In court on yemeche pled guilty to a variety of offenses Including abh arson and threats to kill A further custodial sentence was handed down by the judge The result of the rampage of on yemeche was that he got another six years One thing that will never do me No matter how angry I get I've never threatened anybody's life, man I would never make that threat out of my mouth Because that'll get you that'll get you time You say that you're going to jail Rather you meant it or not That's where you hit it. You know what I'm saying? So that's one thing I try not to do, man I don't get angry no more. So it's all good. Anyway, I try not to Added to his sentence One of his explanations in court when this was put to him Is he said I was taking steroids and I didn't know the impact they were having on me Whether that was true or not, it didn't affect the fact that his sentence was extended The judge stated you are clearly a powerful man You went on the rampage and you cared little for your own safety Let alone that of others With his sentence extended on you meet you with That's a crazy headline to read Let me move this because I am one of the best editors on the platform So this is this is light work for me when I do things like boom. You feel me? Nothing easy 20 stone prison rampage scon is stopped by 100 ride gear jailers It may cause us 15,000 pounds of damage and Damage as he batters officers and starts fires But not be eligible for parole until 2042 It didn't surprise me at all That he would be fine and it would be a difficult task for them to hold him So, man, when they lose it, the only way of expressing how they're feeling would be By way of violence With on you meet she convicted for running a mock Justice had been served But for the staff the most important factor was just getting out alive There is such a sense of relief among staff because it can escalate so quickly and We go in there to do a job and to go home to our families And sometimes you hear of people not being able to go home to their families I promise you you couldn't pay me enough to do this job. I don't care. I don't care. What amount you came with Yeah, go guard Category eight prisoners Go do what? I'm so good off that I don't care the salary You couldn't No, because I know how it is man I just no Nah I know how I am So I get in there. Ah, you locked up. Ah, no, I'm just playing I wouldn't do that But I'm just saying like I'm pretty sure it's guards that be on that type of time that make it harder for other guards To work there. It's like no, bro. No What just happened? See, okay It's because of the environment we work in and that's a risk that you do take when you start working in a maximum security prison Onyomichi is a classic example of the volatility of high security prison It only takes one person to lose it And the whole place is in danger of going up Onyomichi's rampage was not an isolated incident as in the years leading up to the attack Assaults on staff in British prisons had nearly tripled In those environments because officers don't feel as though they're safe You've always got to have that in the back of your mind, but you can't let that affect the job that you do Next we move along to full Sutton's most reviled area a place known as beast wind The smell Is different from Normal location the beastie beastie beastie wing Beast the wing, okay If you send to hmp full sutton and find yourself amongst britain's most reviled offenders Then you have arrived on beast wing beast wing is just another name for Sex offenders or the degenerates of the criminal world Sex offenders have to be kept away Because they will be harmed Some severely some to the point where they probably end up dead If you're a sex offender and you come on normal location You will get hot water thrown at you hot fat thrown at you. You will get stabbed to bits Someone will get rid of you just for the sake of it whether it matters to them or not One long time inmate on this wing was one of britain's most notorious killers The muswell hill murderer Hold on. I ain't never heard of that one I'm telling you When I get time to lift these up Y'all know where to find them that better than I do though. What was this? What was this? One long time inmate on this wing was one of britain's most notorious killers The muswell hill Hill murderer Dennis nielsen is among britain's most famous serial killers He would pick up floating young men whether it's in the pub or in the street And he would take them home But then he began to live out the fantasy his fantasy from childhood of possessing a passive young man for sex And he would strangle them He disposed of the bodies in a really horrifying way He dismembered them And he burned them on a pyre constructed from tires. He also Put some of the flesh Down the lavatory It was this method of jeffrey dollard to spores in of his victims that led to his detection This kind of look like jeffrey too though the moment the police arrived at his door He's ushered down into the police car to be taken away for interrogation and the Detective says well, how many people have you killed? And nielsen says 15 or 16 At his trial nielsen was convicted of murder and sentenced to life imprisonment Early into that sentence he arrived at full sutton There's no question that full sutton was a logical place to send Dennis nielsen He was certainly one of the worst of the worst He first went to full sutton in march 1990 And he was only there for maybe 10 months. He spent the whole time in the segregation unit It was not the first time nielsen had been in the segregation unit during his time in prison I was down to sick. I don't care what my friend If hypothetically speaking, I don't care what my friend had been through in their life The upbringing I don't care what trauma they've had if I hear they're doing something like this I'm No way Ain't no way. I'm parting ways might beat them Allegedly, you know what I'm saying? I could no no No, no, I don't I'm sorry. I don't care This is I could see you see how they did this This down here friend of Dennis knit. I would have made them edit it X friend. I didn't know kind of don't say that segregation units during his time in prison I was down the segregation and I didn't have no books in the cell I asked the prison officer could I get a book to read for tonight? He goes, uh, how about asking your next-door neighbor? I said he's my next-door neighbor and he said to me Dennis nielsen I said, oh, ain't that the guy that And he said to me. Yeah, that's the guy He's been down the yonks. I said, well ask him for me came back about 10 minutes later. I said, yeah compliments of Dennis And he gave me the book And it was called beyond belief Which was the first ever book written on Myra, him the end Ian Brady After we did a documentary I know I think him of all books. They wouldn't let me post it on youtube. So it's on patreon Why would you send me that? Nielsen moved around the prison system in the 1990s before returning permanently to full Sutton in 2001 Dennis Nielsen was a very arrogant person kind of saw himself as a bit of an intellectual He would complain at everything and anything I think he took me to the civil court twice For various things that he felt he was aggrieved about lost both of them He just felt he was better than everybody else The only things that ever created altercation with staff Were things such as rules and regulations a perceived lack of them being applied equally But at full Sutton Nielsen would have bigger problems than the staff He didn't have any friends in prison. He obviously had acquaintances and he had neighbors But not friends in any real sense of the word. No one would talk to him. Yeah, but I mean Someone who chops up 13 people and shoves them down drain holes. That's like That's not going to make you friends That's not how you make friends and influence people in the prison system A couple of hooded prisoners turned up at his door. He suspected he was going to be beaten up or even murdered So he picked up a battery that was on the side of his table and he threw it at them Just as they were tipping over a pan of boiling sugar water If you're in a top security prison, you can't settle watch your back because it's full of dangerous people On another occasion, he was in the tv room. Neil Armbell went because somebody had lit a fire on his bed Despite his notoriety Not every prisoner wanted to attack Nielsen The staff asked me if I would go and play music with him because he had a keyboard But no, we just played chess or fucking Scrabble Dennis Nielsen the Scrabble cheat So me and Nick in the Scrabble piece is always looking in his bag to try and get the blanks I think he saw himself as special that he was the more intelligent of everybody I'm not even gonna lie. Scrabble seems so simple Spell words, but the little intricacies of the game like what other like blanks like she was trying to get all the blanks he said or You know you're trying to The person said that Neil was trying to get all the blanks And it was like for what like see I don't know like the subtleties of the game I know spell stuff good points I don't even know how to point system. Well, no, nobody and that's the arrogance of the man, I suppose He was nothing. He wasn't ugly He wasn't attractive He wasn't sure and he wasn't tall. He was just so average. He was medium as hell medium as human Nielsen wasn't the only high-profile resident on the wing as just a few cells down Was the man suspected of one of britain's most evil unsolved crimes the babes in the wood murders Russell bishop was a neighbor four doors down He was probably the closest he had to what I would class as a normal friend in prison Russell bishop was a disturbed rather unhappy young man He had developed quite quickly an appetite for very young girls and he commits what will be his most famous crime Which was nicknamed babes in the wood in 1986 On this particular october day in 1986 bishop is washing a group of young girls The girls are playing outside and the two of them decide they'll go off Buy a bag of chips. They're called nicola fellows and Karen hadaway Then they go into wild park bishop is all the time tracking them with only one objective Which is to sexually assault They go to a little hide in the wood in wild park and in that particular hide unfortunately Russell bishop killed them Bishop quickly became the prime suspect and after being arrested went on trial for the murders To the astonishment of the prosecution and the police bishop is found not guilty He truly is An evil man and he got away with it Despite getting away with murder bishops reign of terror continued in february 1990 He attacks another young girl this time age seven inevitably bishop is convicted and sent to jail Bishop entered full sutton where he would meet dennis nielson Bishop lent dez his typewriter When the age fell off dez his typewriter over christmas and he needed to carry on with his writings and his correspondence So for a period the two of them became Intertwined really when i read about his crimes. I expected to see the some crazy monster with really crazy manic eyes and It was just average just average. There's nothing Special nothing unique nothing remarkable This look like a It look like them it's like a typical build Hey man nielson The only interesting thing that a lot of these serial killers have gone for him Is their crime because outside of that they're pretty much nobodies But long into his prison sentence the weight of his crimes became too much Russell bishop confessed effectively to a fellow inmate the full son That he was guilty of killing nickler and caron the babes in the wood murders And in 2018 some considerable time after the original deaths of nickler and caron 1986 He's tried for the babes in the wood murder and is quite rightly convicted But in the end bishop wouldn't serve much of that sentence There was a little justice somewhere at the end Because bishop died in 2022 of terminal cancer. Oh, he just died last year So after so long in prison What made bishop finally confess? I think it was bragging Not remorse that made him tell a fellow prisoner. I think bishop Didn't suffer any guilt I think he was just rather proud of it I'm proud that he got away with this for so long bishops death Closed a dark chapter in british criminal history And he proved to be one of the very few acquaintances that denise nielson ever had in full sudden Dennis nielson was as I remember Just an old shell of a man to be honest He was quiet. He kept to himself. He'd sit in his room and his Little white underwear and read his book and write his poems In his final years, he was slowing down He was tiring of most things and his health was slowly fading I'd definitely say he had a very sad existence in his final years He was very isolated from what I saw. It usually happens with older prisoners If they're reasonably infamous as well They tend to isolate themselves even further Because their crime becomes very well known People on the wing know who they are and what they've done On the 10th of may 2018 Dennis nielson was transferred to York hospital citing stomach pains He would die there two days later at the age of 72 It does just become part of life Hey Good to hear both of them is You know what I'm saying? Out of here Because people like that man they should they should If they was in texas If they was in texas florida Well, they would have got chemically castrated or something. I don't know what some would have happened. That was negative In that that People come and go and people die and people like that die as well The prison moves on In that you are just another number who will come and go So who was the real Dennis nielson? We give him far too much credit for being what he used to be like and not the sad old man dying in prison cell Which is what he was in the end It wasn't a man with horns or a tail or a big black cloak Or staring eyes It was absolutely ordinary chap Evil does not come printed on your forehead Often it's extremely banal They're ordinary men who don't stand out in the crowd Next inside full suttons most reviled wing one of the most notorious revenge attacks in the prison's history Listen Hmp full sutton houses some criminals so despised that they are kept apart for their own protection But even on beast wing, there is no love lost for these offenders sex offenders the worst is of the worst discouraged We can we got to talk about them for 40 minutes. We just talked about these other two which in real listed was like Just talked about these other two for 20 minutes now. We're gonna talk about more for 20 minutes You're the worst part of these type of documentaries for me, man The beasts there are ordinary sex offenders. You're rapist And then there are child sex offenders and they are the bottom of the bottom There is a hierarchy amongst sex offenders For example people who've committed crimes against women They'll look down on people who've committed crimes against children And then people who've maybe committed crimes against one child You quite often see them looking down on people who've committed crimes against multiple children I have heard prisoners actually saying well, I only raped a woman you raped a child I guess it's like anything, you know, we as human beings want other people to be worse than us, don't we? One in me that every prisoner would look down on was the man who would become known as Britain's worst ever pedophile Richard Huckle 71 offences He used to take regular trips to Malaysia to effectively abuse children but always presented himself as a sort of English teacher and philanthropist was a member of a dark web group called the love zone He was writing a manual for pedophiles on how to make it happen how to make it work He bragged that young people in developing countries were much easier to seduce than middle-class people in England But after a multinational investigation Huckle's crimes came to light Huckle quite rightly was eventually a court indeed arrested by the national crime agency at Gatwick airport after a tip-off From the Australians. He was eventually charged with 91 offences and pleaded guilty to 71 His victims ranged from six months to 12 years 16 Huckle was sentenced for his crimes His victims ranged from Yeah, that was the age Six months to 12 years Huckle was sentenced for his crimes Richard Huckle was convicted Of being a predatory pedophile And was given a life sentence and sent full seven Life sentence as a high-profile sex offender Huckle would have to be kept on beast wing for his own protection honestly in the south, florida Yeah, and uh Anywhere in the south he would have got the death penalty For sure. I met Richard Huckle when he moved on to our unit. He was a very quiet man Which doesn't really surprise me considering how infamous he was and everybody knew what he'd done His crimes were especially heinous even amongst other sex offenders He was not popular with anybody prisoners or staff With his crimes so well documented Surely this criminal would want to keep a low profile He was not shy about his crimes. He was almost proud of it And I think that rubbed a lot of people the wrong way I really disliked Richard Huckle. I thought he was evil for what he'd done As in the Rinn's worst pitiful has been stabbed to death Glad to hear it. I don't condone Violence, but a notorious offender this inmate would have had a target on his back Huckle you got to expect that as a sex offender you're on borrowed time Definitely It was no secret amongst a few of the prisoners that there was an attempt to be made on his life The inmate who decided to take revenge on the wings most reviled man Was convicted rapist Paul Fitzgerald I wanted to say free him so bad, but he had convicted one himself So I mean I mean hey Live by it there man He's of October 2019 Fitzgerald entered Huckle's cell And effectively kept him hostage for Well an hour and 18 minutes without anyone noticing The difference in a top security prison is how far it goes in a normal prison if someone's running in your cell They're running in your cell to just have a fight in a top security prison People are running in your cell to try and stab you up and kill you During that time he subjected Huckle to the most extraordinary torture and beating He tied him up Tied his feet tied his hands gagged him raped him Stuffed a blade on a piece of wood up his nose so that it reached his brain Stuck a spoon into his anus Hey, hey Hey That boy got everything he deserved didn't he Didn't he It's almost unbelievable Shocking from my understanding. There was a few other people who were aware of what was going on and so Could keep watch could tell other people not to press the bells And so until somebody quite literally stumbled across what was going on an alarm that wouldn't be wrong If anybody wanted to assault anybody or do anything of that nature It was quite easy to do You could have been in there beating half to death if that was somebody's wish A bell went off In a prison when an alarm bell goes Any free staff regardless of where they work are expected to attempt to attend the alarm Prison officers Sometimes I think they'll wait until they're back up And when all your officers come then they'll run to the incident and then they'll Deal with it depends on the inmate Who the person is How many dangerous people are on that wing? It just all depends on the situation We arrived at the wing almost immediately. We were sent back And it wasn't till that evening that we were told that he'd been killed in his cell As a sex offender you will definitely definitely get your comeuppance 100% no surprises there that he got it Fitzgerald claimed that it was a good thing that he was doing the right thing And he wanted to give Huckle a taste of his own medicine see how they suffered you're going to suffer too When he was found Straddling Huckle's body with a pool of blood around Huckle's head He claimed that he wanted to cook and eat parts of Richard Huckle Fitzgerald I suspect they had nothing to do with Making him feel how others felt. I suspect he was a good old-fashioned monstrous attack And perhaps he wanted to become famous for the man who killed Brin's worst pedophile With Huckle dead Questions were asked as to how an attack could last 78 minutes in such a high secure environment Why the security guards knew what was happening? That was a shoe Look down the way Full Sun is asked to cope with some of the most dangerous men In the country and it must be safe and secure There has to be a suspicion that someone knew something about what was going to happen to Richard Huckle It's a bleak thought but It's very difficult to avoid That conclusion But despite committing horrendous crimes Did Huckle deserve better protection? There's no question that even a Wicked evil man like Richard Huckle deserved protection Safety is one of the principles that every prison should work by And the fact that he was killed by a fellow sex offender Is a terrible commentary on the safety of prisoners Lessons would have to be learned at Full Sutton the safe sex offender Whatever he's saying he cabin He cabin. He's well. He just want to sound good. It sounds good That's what you supposed to say. I know in his mind. He thinking like the complete opposite of what he's saying Murder of Richard Huckle, but not every sex offender here would meet the same end As child molester turned killer Mikhail Galatanov Would discover Mikhail Galatnikov was a convicted sex offender who was also convicted of a killing in 1997 of a man called Adrian Kaminsky He was the predatory and that's why Galatnikov was in Full Sutton On the same wing as Galatanov was homophobic murderer Mark Goodwin Mark Goodwin was convicted in 2007 of killing a gay man in black ball There can be no doubt that it was a homophobic attack and for that Mark Goodwin found himself in Full Sutton Where he met Mikhail Galatnikov Mark Goodwin was reasonably quiet Similar to Mikhail both reasonably friendly He would sort of keep to himself Didn't really speak to me that much But from what I kind of saw of him. He was always reasonably friendly chatty Good spirits considering the circumstances of of where we were But soon these wingmates would become more than just friends The pair met in the prison library at Full Sutton And after a time it turned into a full-blown sexual relationship in Full Sutton and every prison sexual relations are Wait, I thought you were the homophobic killer That's what they said, didn't they prohibited However, they'd meet up in each other's pads to engage in sex And then eventually that sort of turned into a steady relationship Unlikely though, it may sound you have the homophobe Goodwin Who seems to have fallen in love with a man who's clearly gay and had killed a gay lover It's almost unbelievable They were always reasonably Affectionate to some level like they'd give each other a hug and a kiss They'd always have a little flirt with each other But Galatanov and Goodwin decided that they wanted to take their relationship to the next level They they mean by that he decided that they would marry It was the first time there'd ever been a gay marriage in a British prison It took place in the children's play area No, how why would I do that? Why would I let that happen? Why would they let this happen in this area? Okay, it's fine that y'all let that happen But why his area specifically but not even Of the visitor center There were two Lady vickers four prison officers for security and six prison officers invited by the pair They said to each other we're soulmates and we'll be together forever And they shared a kiss and a piece of cake But for these newlyweds married life would be somewhat long distance even in a maximum security jail After the marriage The pair were separated to separate wings of full sat and they can only meet once a month visitation Which you would have thought was slightly odd. It is a strange love story as Two people have fallen for each other in a very hostile and strange environment As a love story goes it is very We're not going to make this out to be wrong. Yeah Come on now We unique and different I don't think there's one like it to be honest I'd almost challenge someone to find two people like them Nobody want to challenge that We do not care Each other in such a strange situation and then decided that they wanted to be married If everyone in prison who would gay or come out with their closets I think prison would be transformed overnight. I think it would be a lot cleaner I think people would be a lot funnier and a lot more charming as some have suggested do get out to the community they clean and there's a Funny very funny people that they could be a more cynical reason for this marriage The sister of mark goodwin's victim has suggested the reason for the marriage Was that glatnikov realized he was due for parole in not too distant future And that this was a way of making him seem respectable and upright And a changed man I suppose none of us will Probably ever really know why they really decided to get married and separate rather than Stay together on a wing. I couldn't tell you and I just So somebody thought they'd develop that whole plan because Parole was coming and they wanted to get out. So you telling me they was in there Meet the cheek and Because parole was getting close Don't think anybody apart from mark and mickyle could tell you why they made that choice I think it's fascinating question about whether Goodwin came out because he realized he was Gay really underneath all the homophobia Or whether he was seduced I mean, there's no question that glatnikov was charismatic and it's possible that this was my way for goodwin To make his life in full sudden a little easier. I think dude was truly really really really He was really one of the members under that Under all that phobia That's how I'd be low key It's hard to be absolutely sure what was going on there. It's not just Desperate desire for a lustful relationship. So I think it was a more complex relationship than that Next more inmates at full job off in next door neighbor HMP full sudden is a prison for some of the worst category a criminals in britain But some of the inmates in here like to be more than just friends Sex has been going on in prisons for as long as any of us can even begin to remember Gay for the stay It is what it says on the tin There is inevitably going to be an outlet for sexual desires which have to be of the same sex Sometimes it's just like you just want to get you free con By the bins on the exercise yard You just want to get each other off of me. What else is there to do in prison? But not all relationships in prison are out in the open Men do not like to talk about having sex with other men It's still a taboo men have brought up to be ashamed to have even feelings of sex with other men I'll have one person and he'll call me a and call me a And the next minute I'll look through his spy holes. I was giving a blowjob in the fucking cell They won't come to you until they're really stoned or really drunk And then they just want to use you and chuck you away like an old tissue They come in to say they care about you. Yeah, they care about you when they're having sex But like as soon as that's done, they're they're just off-ski Very very well hidden But a lot of us have secret lives and many people do so they might not be too happy to admit it There'd be so ashamed that anybody else would find out They completely blank me even though we've been having sex together almost like for two years But outside the cell there they would not even acknowledge my existence because they'd be so embarrassed But this prisoner was numb to rejection from fellow inmates after a difficult childhood I didn't have much of a foundation to build on just just a childhood full of abuse Compassion meant nothing in my family Oh, this is my father wanted his children to be like him bigots Racists mean-spirited people There were so many opportunities where the system could have helped me Well, I asked for help and he just said look we there's nothing we can do for you You just got to make it on your own All I knew was that my life was bad and it was just going to get Badder Sarah drifted into a life of crime graduating from car theft to kidnap and torture After the attempted murder of a fellow inmate at a previous prison. She arrived at Fullsutton in the early 90s When I arrived in Fullsutton as a lot of people do it was my first maximum security prison What took my breath away was how feral everyone seemed to be Just roughing it out, scrapping it out fighting over bits of drugs fighting over bits of meat That had been stolen, I mean from a kitchen It was insane Day to day life in Fullsutton would be difficult enough But Sarah also had a secret I always had disbelief since I was a child that I was a woman trapped in a man's body I'd never heard of transsexuality or transgender I didn't know about none of these things if I said to my father that I didn't think that I was a boy And that I was a girl my father would have just beat me even more than he did already So it's pretty much something that I sat on really it wasn't something that I felt I needed to talk about And I didn't really have the vocabulary to explain how I was feeling In Fullsutton, I realized that there were certain skills that I had I was able to use them skills So that I would be protected I was a street wise kid I used to be a rent boy so sex for money was no big deal to me Giving someone like a blowjob for a tenor's worth of phone cards Lot of people paid me for sex. I was young and I was really cool. I reckon and I was really pretty But using your body in prison as a commodity is not always enough to keep you safe In prison no no doesn't mean no in jail. No one's going to listen to yours. No one's going to come when you scream They're not They'll just say you bought it on yourself You can find no compassion in there. It is an act of inconceivable cruelty and depravity that It's almost hard to imagine Sarah continued to live as a man during her time in the prison system But after 20 years inside She finally had hope She could become the person she really was In prison you couldn't come out as trans until 2011 First of all, you'd have to put an application into the governor and you say this is my my pronoun She her then hopefully within the next month the governor would go Okay, then I am going to Let you go on this journey that you're on this pathway that you're on They give me an identification card and a Sarah Jane Baker instead of Alan Baker And of course as soon as it came out it meant that I was allowed the female clothing that I normally wear every day She used to walk around the wing in her women's clothing Strangely enough most of the other prisoners let them get on with it Coming out as trans if there was anywhere to do it it was prison because it toughened me up And obviously for the fact that I was in prison there was lots of parts of my personality that needed lots of work Obviously, I didn't realize how much it would really make people angry Especially like some of the visitors who come to visit their dads and their uncles and their brothers They never Contemplated that they could be transgender people because I used to pass really well and the better you pass The mums and the wives of other prisoners man. They will hate you It's just jealousy But even with her gender identity changed completing her transition in prison would not be possible Because I was a prisoner They would not give me any treatment. They would not prescribe me any kind of hormones I thought that even though I was in prison I would be entitled to the same treatment and the same level of compassion from the NHS I mean but not for prisoners Prison is not a place of humanity hope compassion all those words their words you hear very rarely in in the prison system Shit schooling shit home life Shit prison and then you get prison you got started all again Next after serving long sentences, how do inmates leaving full-sutton Adapts to the outside world I used to be scared to get out sometimes for 40 minutes of this show was crazy. I had a a serious capacity It's a self-destruct Then I got put under surveillance your name's never going to be the same again Since it first opened full-sutton has been a jail with a troubled history But with lessons learned from the past does this prison have a promising future Today, I believe it's a lot better over the years full-sutton has kind of changed since the introduction of Probably better better managed prison officers And the introduction of schemes to try and deal with some of the underlying problems of particularly dangerous prisoners Things seem to have calmed down the most recent Inspection report calls it safe remarkably safe and well-run high-security prison So yes, it has a check at past But it has seemed to have got back onto its feet and is Doing what it was being asked to do And if you're an inmate here, it's likely that you'll be serving a long sentence But once you've done your time Adjusting to the outside world Can prove to be a whole new challenge When I finally got released from prison I've got a real friend who's in the UK across the world I was released as a category 8 prisoner So I had our station dog escort me to the gate And put handcuffs on me in the gate And then I had police take me to the hospital and then I got took her out of handcuffs I was on surveillance for six months Culvert surveillance And these are all stuff what I had to navigate To make sure I didn't go back to prison I was so institutionalised That I used to be scared to get out sometimes and when I got out I couldn't last because I couldn't cope with the outside world One of my biggest struggles is socialising When I'm around groups of people I just turn into a different person sometimes because I just don't help the court with the Emotional experiences Before I used to go home I used to like my bed and think if you can do this If you don't rob, you don't burgle, you don't steal But I had a serious capacity To self-destruct And ruin any chances of anything good for myself I thought I'd come out And half start of where I left off And if that's not gonna work, I realised I couldn't be what I used to be And Life's moved on and all that's passed, you know Facts Facts going to jail and coming out Even for one year going to jail for one year and coming out and thinking that stuff is going to be the same Maybe okay one year is extreme like one year. Maybe it'll still be the same but like two three years Like at that point like you a whole different person You might not be a whole different person, but the world you left behind is a whole different world You know what I'm saying? Some of these people went out went to jail when Razor phones was it Blackberries was it And they came out to iPhones like they ain't even the same trap no more. You can't even trap the same no more But the old habits you've learned from prison life can be hard to lose Prison makes you hyper-vigilant It makes you see people when they're worse like it Because you're looking for threats I've been quite lucky since I got out of jail getting lots of help I mean my parole officer and I've been giving me lots of help I have a psychiatrist and a psychologist who really Work harder to try and pick that 30 years in prison What do they think I was going to be like when I got out? You know I mean full set of maximum security done my brain in How you can ever be well after such a long Experience of experiencing Those kind of feelings day in and day out for years and years and years is beyond me Because I even go places outside here now and I'm tense and I'm thinking there's no reason to be tense But you live in that way for so long it becomes second nature You need good people around you when you come out of prison in this country. Yeah, that's a fact Good people around you period and life will elevate you to somewhere else Somewhere better. They just lock you up and then let you out With the threat of locking you up again and that's it Nothing's done. Nothing's changed And as a former inmate you may not be the only one struggling with life outside the prison walls Myself and a lot of prison staff struggled. Hey quit just quit then I don't even want to hear from y'all. I'm gonna be an honest man Hey, listen, I know y'all be going through it in there as guards But hey, just quit. I don't be wanting to hear this And still struggle in the outside world You notice yourself getting nervous in crowded spaces checking over your shoulder I love staffing there changed the way they parent because of who they worked with and what happened People who don't work in prisons who don't see prisoners who don't see The levels of violence that these people can commit day to day don't fully understand The sort of things you deal with Full sudden has had a lasting impact on those who lived and worked inside its high walls But did this prison change inmates for the better? The judge who sentenced me He told me prison was going to change my life and make me a better person No, it didn't at all There was no one in full sudden or maximum security to say, you know what you can be better than this I saw people who were damaged people who were brutalized people who were traumatized by their past And all they could do was continue that that spiral Each time I came out with no plan I continued and continued in the same way For all those years and years years just feels like a complete waste of life I think it's important that We start looking at how we can actually Change the people help them a little bit more because they will be getting out and they will be amongst us If you get the right role models in prison, you know, you get to know you and know where your thinking is wrong and can guide you step by step bit by bit spotting talents abilities in you that all of us have as individuals and get you into that Teach yourself something new education reading life skills do whatever you've got to do that That's going to make sure that you're not going to go back to your old ways when you get out But older probably easier said than done when you Looking back and reflecting People don't see that in a lot of people don't see the light Milly gel became my home It's part and parcel of the game. It's not a lot of people don't see the light and a lot of prisons don't Have people employed to help people in their seat of light that I chose and the lifestyle that I chose to live I understand the needs to put people in jails like false certain people want to feel that they get in their justice But if people demand that people are sent to prison just for the fact of revenge This spiral this circle Nothing stops that What did I learn from false certain? I learned how to survive Two independent investigations found no concerns about staff at the time of richard huckle's death A recent independent report highlighted satisfactory resettlement work for those released directly from full sudden A prison service spokesperson said the claims made are unfounded a recent independent report highlighted good relationships between staff and prisoners Tlo leave a like comment Leave a like comment Tlo leave a like comment I'm drawing a blank Oh, leave a like comment subscribe turn on your post notification bells. I'm gonna edit that out. I'm gone