 How are you doing? What a beautiful voice you just heard there. Yes, we are back with another interview as you all know. This is that segment we bring in a guest in studio and this guest anakongana mazuri as always. Kavile miskia. But we get to know the artist even better. Kingsley. How are you? I'm not okay. Why? Takwamiya badai. Anyway, guys welcome back, welcome back. This is our guest for today. And it was Kailaki. Kailaki. Okay. Wala niwa najiwa yungo maingin, wanaza kwa kidogo confused, lakini siyo hiyo. Niskaya S-K-E-Y. S-K-E-Y. S-K-E-Y. S-K-E-Y. S-K-E-Y. S-K-E-Y. S-K-E-Y. S-K-E-Y. S-K-E-Y. S-K-E-Y. S-K-E-Y. S-K-E-Y. S-K-E-Y. S-K-E-Y. S-K-E-Y. Yajindetohu na notattchabadточisuhu. Wala thiisetiko, Wan tubeploza justvihu nahaha. Ulianda templesa patakia. S-K-E-Y. S-K-E-Y. S-K-E-Y. Mxow lakeni nUsdunia na. Mx wczeen uziuk fencebohiko. Mx sjibasa, ag executives kenushesmana na, sumaldike ni n Sigew grabsawa, plazedu uziunaipلfuwa. 75 la Daniil doensyeen lezi deter. 50 la Disuppiliyunoxurik при Upadboko. Diường, But people's songs Then after our days when I was like Yeah I can do music but before I was doing I was mostly focusing on football Wow, it's interesting you said that you were forced I believe you were forced Because you could not sing in secular So you had to translate it to gospel How are you doing that? Kali riks mi chafu mi chafu But creative it's creative I think there are some people who happen to like some beats that are from secular Plus I was in a family where a lot of people were sowing to Christ So actually they didn't know I'll be a secular artist But when I went to the studio I was struggling a lot writing gospel Automatically just became secular It cool didn't come, gospel just cool didn't So I released my first song and they were like no that's not you So I had to release another one Then they were like okay But they want okay, your family Wow, so are they supporting you now? Because bro you are doing great out here Ama kidogo My music journey is me It's me I've never I've never gotten support from family They never wanted me to do music But I started did business management So after words I just I just called in I sing a deny music Sing a watch a music I just love music too much I can tell this is your passion you know And I'm curious Is that the reason why you wrote this song My life Yeah my life comes okay my mum's late My mum passed when I was five And I don't know my dad But I had he died So my life is the struggle Because I struggled so much Bit being from her Well my background wasn't bad I can say when I was growing I didn't struggle so much Than when I was I got done with high school So it was too much struggle that I didn't find was Too be necessary because my family is okay But since it's my career and I have no option And there's no one to help So I just had to go ahead And actually my first and second song I did I hooked I've hooked For like so it's the longest thing I've done Seven months Hoking Hoking for music I did my first and second song Through hooking Audios Videos is when I had gotten job with taskies So I was able to get good pay And be able to do my first and second video But actually this song is more of come back Because even Ali I couldn't also be myself Because to go to Nambuwa Like right now the way I look And before is different Because Unapata Monyanakit Kayo manager is like For you to get much funds For you to do this And that you have to have feminine energy But that wasn't me So I had to force it for some time In which I couldn't do it after the end of 2019 So I had to stop music for some time Started managing artists And fashion business Then I was like Now it's time for me to come back Because I've gathered myself I've accepted me I've known how to deal with myself And be like Now I can do my music Because that was the only problem If I become me Can I be able to do music again Or people will take it differently You get But I thank God because The love I've been receiving since I started being me And the comment There's no negativity So I'm good All right Umesema You finally accepted who you are How is that How do you come to that conclusion Was it a fight I was fighting against myself Because I have to please family Because they don't like this There's fans of the same time There's friends So at some point You are being who you are not Because of people You get In which at the end of the day It's your life So since I was the one doing for myself Almost everything from after high school It reached a point where I'm like Let me just be mayor At the end of the day I'm the one doing everything It's not like Even if I'm trying to please family Or whatever They are helping me in anything So I just took my time And yeah We're here today Maybe you can just tell guys Where to find you On social media As we proceed My social media handles Are scale lucky Just scale lucky S-K-E-Y-L-U-C-K-E-Y Scale lucky Almost everywhere Actually everywhere Kinsley You got any question I don't know what's going on What's up? What's going on? Whatever you said When you met Wambia I said that's deep Do you have any word To the parents That don't support their kids In what they do How many of you When it comes to Supporting art Come to it While Either while Adoption Aili Aili What do you have to tell them? We are in a very critic generation Where Sometimes we study too much And we end up not even Pursuing what we studied And also Most of the people Who are in universities And staff Because that's what their parents want So that simply means We are not allowed To be ourselves From childhood Because maybe your brother Became a lawyer Your other brother Is a business person Say they expected you To go through the same line And Kenya Is the same How much difference Here to other countries When their children Are being supported Is because When you learn your children When they are young Most of us Is in 1990 Before 2000 We want free With our parents When we are growing So we want We want to sit in a room We want to be in a bedroom We want to get So this is your time Your relation with your parents And the moment you don't have Parental relation Or a parent doesn't have A relation with the child It's hard for you To know even what your child wants When they say My name is Tundu When they say My name is music When they say My name is Sijuia When they say My name is football When they say My name is Pa Because you don't know What their passion is And what's important Ni passion by the way Because art has a lot Art can't be bought Something that is within you That you don't struggle Reading like for years That just comes naturally Is something a lot of people Have to treasure You get So if you take that serious It's easy to make A lot And it can change someone's life Some tumor A lot of talents Have changed A lot of background situations So that's something A lot of parents should consider On the same path Education is very important By the way I want you to come and compliment And go to your talented dean It's in there It's in there It's in there Kusimukweli Pia minili so At the end of the day So it's very important Having knowledge Because it's a music industry Be like your knowledge bro Ok You'll find the person Who has money to go to the studio Has money for the video But where are you going to put it out? That's an investment Because music is an asset So the moment You don't know where you're going To put it For you to get something back from it Then there's nothing you're doing You're just investing for zero That's onapa tawasan You won't walk on a talent But in Afika Point They drop Because they didn't know Why they were doing it Some are doing it for fame Some are doing it out of Disparation Onapa tawasan Contracts Labels And these labels Won't even take you anywhere Because there's something I believe If an artist Didn't reach a certain level And this is something I don't always tell any artist I come through Always in a sign Kwa iwa lebo Kama Uku fika a certain level Because you won't make me Reach there Whether we like it or not Uta takatuni kwe chinia ko Nagat So na, that's the difference With tizi, daimon Every artist in the label Reaches somewhere Because he has reached there But the moment an artist Hasn't Do na pata contractze To mingis na fail Misaniya lingi Apaleji ya desperate Being desperate Then in Afika Point Because you don't want to Hustle for your music You don't want to do anything Ok, drop iwa You're going back to zero You're starting a new YouTube channel Because you don't have knowledge Na izivi tu zote Kilam tu sayakona Access to internet You get It's all about research But we too lazy for that So izoni vi tu Knowledge ya music There's a lot in music Because there's some people Who are making money Even without doing videos In music So You can even be doing that song You applaud it After two months You do your video If you're smart But to kingoja tiju Na na watu Because even this big art Is started from somewhere So piwa na faku puta The back of your mind You have to start from somewhere Talking about knowledge Kuna mani li kwa na skeza So you can do something on social media too Kuna msa ni Very big in the US Nbigi sana But size di Then na li kwa mbigi Nivele sezi sema jiniakia Ata wa kusema Laki ni kuna Mali nipiga research Niki na niki joni naani So li kuna sema kuna Doctorif lani Yeni doctori He has nothing to do with music Adjiki Yesim sa ni Yesim na Mani jasim naani Laki na na kuna Roeltizu msa Yes Nasi wukuna wa sanim baka leo Labels zina Expecialy wuki ingi akwa 360 Una jo watu na sa in contract Na uju at a type of contract you're signing also Because there's 360 There's 180 Kuna difference of how your management is handling you Na wuki sa in 360 That's like selling your soul Your soul You get Because the moment these people drop you You have nothing And you can't do nothing Na una patayo lebo li na kwa Nbi wuki tokahapa You won't record You won't do anything for a number of years Na you know something like talent Uki nda inje Uwambiwe wazi ingi ata studio kufanya anything And it's a rule If you do it Ata iso studio zina jua You get Uki ingi akwa yo studio It's a problem Una pata Una pata say letu na ta kakurudi Kuna wa sanipia wa Kenya wali Go through that I won't mention names But una pata say leon ta kakurudi Kwa game maybe una try ata kuku ingi Into gospel Uwana kaita kubali But it doesn't work It doesn't work Because uli rush Muzik ni safari Angaliya sauti sol Angaliya kina nya This people have taken ten Kina diamond It's a journey If you don't want it to be a journey There's nothing fun about it You have to struggle Alright Seems like you already have You know a proper strategy Of how you manage your Your work Your music Your music Work or career I'm curious Because I've seen you on the Streaming sites I'm curious to know Are these streaming sites Beneficial to you As an artist You know Since Zimeko introduced 2015 Hadisai As an artist to Mecheki At least kuna change Is it streaming Streaming sites in a letter Ama Asu to For school download Is the ups You know For the sake of it Isu atando life Mi atasi angaliyangi YouTube by the way Really? I don't look I don't focus with YouTube I focus with Spotify Shazam Apple Diza You get I focus with these digital platforms Because They can pay me even Before any artist knows That my song is on YouTube Then I do a video You'll think it's a new song But I had a ploy I did some time back Because I can remember In 2019 I survived with music payment So you are doing so well On boom play? Yeah I do so well in boom play I was doing so I was working with Ziki So I can say it paid me For you Nice And these platforms By the way King is a poor Ukiwa na fans to a fiti Uneza li pwo Month li na wunali Pa rent Una fanyani No way Artist get There's money Mr Una nabluwa na semanga Kuna do kenya Kuna do niwewe ju You're the only determinant Because We also expect too much When you're not so big Because I can tell you Kuna wasa niwa bigi wunye Wali kuwa na name Tula wana tukwa TV na wana pata shows But their songs are not in these platforms So Wana tegemea niwa shows Na the moment there's no Nisi zona kuna show So wana sota So wana pata amsani at some point I think wana wasa niwa kitambuki dogo Wani kuwa hit But sayume Rurinuma Ama wana pata wameki into drugs Wameki into Because of depression Because of pressure You get Because Uja gather your knowledge Na utaki Na wana takapiai kuera Nisi jumu Na wana kwa ina pambiyanga Twingia studio Keshokutu atu kuna video Lafu na onatungu wama iku Epoly kuwa Pina ujua teimei ingi You don't even ask yourself that How That's you That's Sige tiki blim Sani afiki riku Alright Let me tell you Because trust me Uki wuliza wunye Anaku manage How they put them Your music there They won't answer you They won't answer you Alright Let me tell you something If you're watching The Bounds today right here Right now And you missed on that Particular beat Panyamu miambiwa What to do as an artist Well, we're not going to repeat that Atu tarubia But 20 luck So in short Kwa nyangoma Juliza wunye kawapi Atu okenda tuwa nike kwa google Where to put music Where to distribute maybe It will answer you Music distribution I think that's very important It will answer you If you want Kenyan platforms They are there If you want to work With outside platforms They are there You get as long as You're a citizen somewhere As long as you have your ID As long as you have everything To do with the documentation There's nothing impossible Alright Please remind people Where they're going to find you On the socials In case Ntuame miss Your beat Aniza kuli zaje Aniza kupataja Kuli ze yoswali Music distribution Sana-sana Skalaki everywhere Atu ita everywhere Maybe spell it S-K-E-Y L-U-C-K-E-Y Alright The lioness The lioness wunyewe Great Watcha twinge Back to the music What song would you like us to play Definitely the new one The new one Maybe that song Also artists need to take time In their songs You need to take time Because you need to know What you're putting out here Can be listened So I struggled with that I struggled with that He knows that So the moment when I release Music yungu Si nijuna jua My music is so unfamiliar With a lot of people You get But it's something they can listen But because Kuna wa tutu wa shawe kuwa Ondo anafanga kuwa paju You won't be listened to So the only way you can Look for something for yourself Is just research And eat While you're seated in your house Or if you want to work Kuna mtu anaka kwenyuma naanaan Whether kuna mtu kaziya Ketu ni kuskuma mziki Nga angoja endman Please nipeni His skills na kwenyuma naato Is all my jobs Future prospects Future prospects What you expect from them What you've seen there Is a lot of me And there's going to be A lot of me You get Yes Regardless, though There's a lot of limitation In the industry, but Ata o tile wile ali kujanangu Maile ake na legs ilia Bounds ali sema Eh, suno na lidili tihila Kitu kongram Aka sema it's time for him To do music That can go out there Because ashajuwa Yes, beat him being a star Here He still needs to go there Out there So sometimes you can start Ali if you want Because ushajuwa But okay I don't know Kitu na ito Ono na kama mi Mi nili slag behind Because I was pleasing people Because this is what my people wanted But at the end of the day Kuna fans Uengisa na onatika kuniskeza Ako inje And that's the only way I can make it You get So what do I do I have to explore Music is for everybody Not for specific people Alright Great You know what to do Just stick around there We'll be back with another interview There's another guest in studio And of course Kingsley got you on the Music My name is Kaya Jessa Yes Into Kingsley Right now