 We must find a way of ensuring that commercial Farming commercial farming goes side-by-side with cattle herding this country for example the United States of America Is a country that started with cowboys? People who are essentially herdsmen going all over the country They settled eventually for ranching at a time. They were all over the place Well, they had to settle for ranching and so we have ranches here all over the place And I believe that that's the way to go. It's just that ranches must be private businesses Ranches cannot be provided by governments. No government can provide ranches. They must be private now now The way that that goes the way that that goes is very simple If you want if you want to create a ranch if you want a ranch you simply pay for it State governments and some of one of the misconceptions is that the federal government of Nigeria Wants to create ranches. The federal government has no land State governments own land as you know a state governor has complete control and authority over the land in the state He can only if the federal government wants any land It has to ask the state government for the land and pay for it and pay compensation So there is no way except for the territory of Abuja and some sparse Places here and there the federal government does not have any land of its own So it is state policy. That is why Benway State for example says we're not grazing It's state policy