 Welcome back to the breakfast and plus CV Africa is time for off the press and as usual We will take you through the pages of a national dailies and also have a guest join the conversation Uponabong Kutariya is in standby. It's good to have you join us. Happy new year Great to have you All right then let's you know start off with the daily independent newspaper this morning and We'll be looking at the top stories on the daily independent The banner caption for the daily independent doesn't really sound very great for 2022 job loss eminent as banks may phase measures Acquisitions, that's what you find 2022 will be a season of consolidation Song-Woo Liu assures legosians. I Will stand by governor Tom for his principal position Wekay, that's the governor of River State Wekay a pillar of support and a sunshine star I also have a ton quoted and all of that on the daily independent newspaper away from that Terrorist mountain roadblocks amounts to two soventies in Nigeria and BF is quoted on that in security probe alleged misuse of security votes by governor's Serap tells Buhari and Also, you have Buhari's non supervision of military activities affecting insorgency results and Legos, please the bong alleged shutting down of estates by the commission of lease I mean we talked about that just some minutes back and fire gods near we market This is some of the headlines on the daily independent newspaper. All right to the punch newspapers next budget National Assembly faults Buhari insist on 6,576 extra projects National Assembly has power to drop and amend the budget proposal says house spokesman Lawmakers have no rights to introduce projects. It's an anomaly says the chair shaggy And also the Senate did respond saying that shaggy did not speak from a position of law, but lack of understanding Also on the punch Nigeria's inflation rate may be among the world's highest in 2022 and that's from the World Bank We gave you said super zoo about she governor attacks Buhari alleges antigraft fight lopsided Buhari eminent Nigerians Mon or Lou Badon by looking to mount throne and We can also find on the punches morning police 178,459 firearms on account for 3.22 billion our pay-to-ghost workers says the auditor general of Federation and The federal government owes five IOC's one point one five billion our a billion dollars cash Call arrears We can also find on the punch this morning food crisis to worsen as bandits kill and kidnap 352 farmers in 12 months To Kaduna Baptist school students released after 189 days with bandits Bandits raid Kaduna local governments highway Q8 abduct 20 women still motorcycles and Mbaka claims anonymous DSS invitations six prayers from congregation These are the major stories on the punch newspapers Away from the punch newspaper Let's also look at the Nigerian Tribune and the caption reads presidency. Why Buhari signed? 2022 budget despised in session of 6573 new schemes that's the board caption you have there and special report is Niger ready for global energy transition by 2025 2022 will be a season of consolidation Some will you assures leg ocean as Legosians as he talks about the complete of the red blue line real project Immortal rise meal and start the fourth mainland bridge This is some of the riders underneath the boat caption Ibadun Stancil as the 41st all Louis bad on oba saliu a detunji is buried Buhari marketing day at equal to no boo governors or bars emya's and others morn markets to be short today Fiel prize new taxes among economic issues to shape 2022 COVID-19 Governors ministers get mandatory rapid tests before meeting President Mohammed Buhari And that's also another caption what had have been on the same salary structure for 12 years Absu tells federal government we're just hoping that we don't you know experience another strike as who has no Justification for strike. That's what the federal government is saying electricity consumers paid 561 billion narrator discourse in 11 months That's according to a report and why Darwin College house master Others were released Legos Commissioner pleases quoted and awaits result of tax ecology tests Bandit skills seven and kidnapped 18 in Kaduna This is some of the headlines on the Nigerian Tribune this morning and now to the nation newspapers Big one there, of course, is in Ibadun says Ibadun mourns all the bad on dies and is buried Buhari governors to new borders pay tributes Baloo goon to ascend throne also on the nation bandit skills seven in Kaduna communities Senate probes PPP RAs 200 million Naira to foreign firms Covid-19 tests for state house visitors new rules of at the presidency and also 2023 polls. Jonathan meets coordinators Buhari states fighting lost battle on 480 million dollars Paris Club cash And then I met alerts airline operators to poor visibility in eight states. I Think these are the stories that we can share on the nation this morning. Good morning once again to Opponable in Kota area. Thank you so much for joining us. And let's go ahead. You know, which of the stories would you like to start from? Okay, let's start with the one of them that mercy did share the one on on security votes by governors and of course Call to probe security votes and misuse of security votes by state governors Security votes it's not accounted for which is extremely wrong and a lot of them are prepared As much as five billion to 10 billion Naira monthly for security votes, which to me is incongruous. It's completely unaccepted. I Think there should be a benchmark to be a fixed amount for security votes And at the end of the day at the end of the month or the end of the year or the end of the governor's end or president's end of it gives an account Of how much is being spent because that is a conduit fire Excuse me for most governors And president in lots of them. That is how they steal the money You don't even know how much is included for security You don't even know how much is being spent at the end of the month And so it is used by governors and presidents because a conduit fire I strongly believe that they should say for governors depending on the state They should say for governors. You should not exceed two billion You should not exceed three billion if there is need for you to exceed National as your state as our assembly will approve and at the end of the month just as you're going to investigate monthly allocation You can also investigate the security vote And I agree some of them will come up with an idea That you in the sense of security is not all about the physical It's not about what you see because you pay for information For example, now you might have somebody who serve as secret agent that you pay monthly And you cannot disclose the number of persons you can because their identities might not be disclosed That should not even be disclosed for security reasons So you pay them money now you understand all those technicalities But then it has been abused. So let's also okay. We are not we are not interested in The attention of who you gave the money We are not interested but we want to know you say you have Ten five billion not a single five billion era a month Because some governors take as much as ten billion era not exceeding three billion era a month If you're not going to this book and you cannot even properly account for it So you're very likely going to reduce the amount that is being stolen in the name of security So first let's start by saying also, okay, they've asked it's not more than two billion They've asked it's not more than three billion But they've got the end of the day they have to assume even though I call the Ministry of Love making because most of them are robust and Even though they have to assume we eventually approve More money depending on the security situation in the state Then fine then at the end of the day the governor should account For because you cannot tell me ten billion era to spend ten billion era security in a month in the state that is this How there's many And this one issue, even if the DSS doesn't even account And this account gets by in the very silent age of stealing very silent age of stealing because we are In cotaria I'm not I'm not credit. They're not credit In cotaria, yes, but yeah, they are not credit. Yes If if the security apparatus across the country is controlled by the federal the state doesn't have state police or anything Then what does the governor spend even one billion naira on monthly? What spy agents? What equipment is he buying? You just ask the right question. That's the point I'm making. You don't have the right question The reason is that is what I'm questioning. So I can you know, the government will tell you to spend ten billion era Some will tell you to spend five billion era But you can see that the governor will buy the 20 cars of the police The 20 cars of the amount to maximum let's say a hundred billion That's funny to me. You get the hundred billion And most times it doesn't mean to be from the security boat. Let's pretend It's the governor's office Even if he's buying cars, he doesn't buy cars every month Because the governor's money So that's what I'm saying. The security boat is being used in stealing by the governor as their own personal money It's like a pocket money to them every month So it has been abused We can stop security boat if that complicates Use your opinion back stop security boat so that you can always account for it If you they say just ten billion era every month ten or ten or five billion era every month Don't ask you are prepared for all that you see Like health and so on you can also don't go to a bad security boat But it is used as a private boat for our government They see it as a pocket money monthly pocket money And as I look at it if you ask me heat Ten billion and five billion as you can do for what? It's not it's not it's not right. So I completely agree. But if you say you're going to prove I can tell you There might be an excuse By most of you governor. They'll tell you Our informants and the informants are not we are not they are not supposed to be known So they'll tell you our informant. We pay X amount To get information. It's also part of security. They might come up with that argument But the best way is no security books Stay just as you're going to spend on health Just as you're going to spend on education just as you're going to spend on books Spend let's get the money without any day designation security book At the end of the day when you're made to account When it's time for What's because accountability you come out and explain how The informants you talked about One thing I also want to say is that If you disclose if you cannot disclose the informant to the public But in terms of proof Even if it's like what is done in the law courts when you have a motion in Lemai You don't you don't have it in open court in terms of proof I think those informants should be made known to those that are proving It's like What you call it what this wish to blow us Wish to blow us actually not known to the public But they are known to the authorities So the informant should be known to the authorities All right that are probing Not the public let us say because to protect them against any form of attack Upon about Kutariya. Let's also look at the Nigerian Tribune where The caption here says fuel price and new taxes among economic issues To shape 2022. Do you agree with the School of Thoughts? Sorry, is that what? Fuel price and new taxes to shape the economic situation of 2022 Why economic issues? Oh, definitely the economic situation of the nation Well, but if we talk of the individual citizenry, it's for definitely Definitely for the worse not for the better Because that's why we pay taxes in this country In civilized land you pay taxes because you're not going to sink your boat You pay taxes because you are you are you are social amenities Far supply is constant. You don't need to buy your generators Your gas is you have to even go to the police station to get your gas Is supplied and connected to the house All you do is pay that by the paid meter Anytime you're exhausted is cut off In Nigeria, why do you pay taxes? We are in roads. You have this social security You sink your boat You buy your plants everything is done by you and not by the government The only thing the government owns is the states the country So why do you pay taxes? They don't even provide the basic amenities They don't even provide it. So why you pay taxes? Now you're going to increase the taxes. You cannot be paid. People cannot afford it You have this you are business man. You run a company for five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten years You've not made any cover from that company. Yeah every year you're being attacked. What type of financial? Where are you going to get the money from? Working on fuel, cash in fuel and petroleum prices How ridiculous Now tomorrow they will come up with all kinds of stupid examples I would ask them you say oh in social country the price of petroleum is big But in that country as blessed as we are in terms of petroleum resources That is number one Why don't you say in social countries This they have social amenities on population would not have Why are you always comparing the negatives? Why not the positives? Here I want to practice the social living for the rich and capital living for the poor The policies that are made by our government are qualities against those at the bottom of the second order They are the ones that suffer most This if we have a government, not just in Bahrain, but a government that is quite insensitive As Bahrain's government made it worse because it is rudderless Completely rudderless. It has no idea Only Flanley and the Morale Commission Proceed it. No idea what's left So it's like a drowning man looking for what to save his life Like a straw that can do life and to be saved. That is what the government is doing Why are we in this taxes right now? Because seeing the entire economic situation Accidentally from the economic situation Are you talking about taxing people? Who is going to suffer? Because these government officials don't pay tax What they do is they pay the system From their salary. Which means nothing. Their salary means nothing to them They steal so much that they steal for generations of born So they don't steal. The laborer in the office, you're going to deduct his taxes You're decreasing it You're not increasing. The salary, what is that? That you're talking about the domino effect What are the market tax prices? You're deducting because when you increase the taxes For example, you increase the tax of your money And it adds amount 10,000 a year If the taxes 2,000 a year, that will increase to 3,000 a year. Hypothetically To 3,000 a year. Main way, the price of a cup of coffee in the market has gone up Price of tomato has gone up And you're not affixing that man financially That's what you'll be So rather, I'm learning the problems They are first training problems. I'm graduating them from them So it doesn't make sense to me. What are our refinements? You talk about... These are the same government that said There was no... What is it called? Subsidy The same government that has chosen the pedigree government of subsidy That the people don't know what is in subsidy as a non-value because I couldn't buy it to steal it It came on board. At none of that, yes, there was subsidy. Now you're saying no more subsidy What are the refinements that pass 6 and a half years? What have you done? After you export our pretty long product, we find it there outside And it takes it to cost more It to just give it cost more So the government is completely... If they don't have an idea of how to run a system They have to steal it. Sorry to say they have thieves Thieves in government Alright, it's like... You're asking corruption. Why corruption? Are you fighting? Alright, let's move on Yeah, let's move back. Let's go to the punch these papers and then talk a little bit about security now It says they have food crisis to worsen as bandits kill and kidnap 352 farmers in 12 months And also in Kaduna state, it says bandits raid Kaduna local governments and highway q8 abduct 20 women and steal motorcycles also And you know also talks about two Baptist school students released after 189 days. So let's quickly also share Your views on the insecurity challenges still battling or still, of course, to be devil in Nigeria currently People are still being kidnapped and being killed Communities are still being raided And 352 farmers skilled and kidnapped You must also be very very shocking But actually other criminal activities together I've assumed are focalated stagnant and I said it every day And that is because you have the government that is complicitous Now you ask why The government is not serious. Is the government that has trivialized lies? Let us look at the former Is the general of police the one before Okay, the one before not not and not the one before this this prevent one. I think the one before that one When mr. President All done. Hey as commander in chief to go to relocate to brawler state Let the president went to brawler state And was told that the idea never spent a night It was telling that the president was not aware often ignore He said, oh, I'm not aware when I get back to La Buda early investigate Validation that was the end of it No disciplinary measure was taken. He served out his time I did this obey Disobeying the orders of the tax To the detriment of Nigeria's That was the end of it Let's come to the service too much amount was allocated for the purchase of arms and ammunition Not it you're also in Nigeria Not it rather the situation got worse If your pity was rewarded and that's a good start point people the first time who said They there is nothing to show for the amount received by their predecessors Mr. President still rewarded them with a part of the lab In order to submit them for prosecution How do you want to address the security situation? That's what I said the government's company Appointed between the bandits Was even there in Mr. President This will not end unless certain steps are taken Inside this after Mr. President promised That they were going to wipe out bandits It came up this next day It will not end until they are granted help Gumi is moving through Even if the SS will not come after you the next minute That's what the government is complicit You're talking about how messy for bandits How ridiculous bandits Which is still being written by people Because those are illiterates Are they going to renounce it Without Not the government is that they will never talk of forgiving any bandits Because in the past they did And they went back to the rest of the base They went back So I think that's why they're so Get more information Get more arms and ammunition And go back That's what they do If you don't understand the sincerely have done their thing And penitentiary have put the government No This is a strategy The heat is small Let's come We've exhausted Uh uh uh The government have been exhausted Arms and ammunition have probably been exhausted and so Let's go Get some more And go back The government is aware of this What has happened Everything is being dispatched to the government Cut it off That bandits are taking it away Go look the two government in local government And we have a retired general As commander in chief Oh If they are not guilty you can infantilize Nigeria It's not possible We know The government is complicitory They know what they think It's an ecloceptic war And the sub-president doing it Pull a new man and he's protecting his brothers Let the people be told If you're dragging it Who are you to see it? That's what I said The government is also complicitory Because this is general who are there to fight this war Tell me the situation Okay For the want of time Let's just see if we can quickly share your thoughts On the daily independence There are several interesting caption here But let's look at this one Buhari's non-supervision Of military activities Affecting insorgency result And that's what you have there And also You can also add that with the fact that Terrorists mountain roadblocks amount to two Soventies in Nigeria This is according to the MBF And they just amplified what I said Or will I say I amplified what they said Since the paper was published before this interview Buhari's non-supervision of military activities Affecting the insorgency result I mentioned the issue of the former Senatorial of Police I mentioned the issue of the Burakai And his colleagues So I was going to explain it That explains lucy Completely lucy The man If the man does not even know what is happening in this country Anytime you talk he does it I'm not aware You remember That you know this I'm not aware I'm not aware I'm not aware So what they said And that's of complicity What a complicity Because of those involved Because you see You don't charity in the administration of justice The justice of justice must not blow quickly What is good for The good is also good for the country The same way you are approaching the gross matter The same way you are approaching the cost of matter Should be the same treatment for these bandits Should be the same But no, there is discrimination Real discrimination Well Ms Ainkotariya to be fair It explains it It explains it To be fair Ms Ainkotariya There's of course Every now and then reports of bandits being killed Ten, eight, sometimes even dozens So can we still say that the government is not hitting them hard Same way, of course, the government is addressing Sunday But who, of course, doesn't seem to be commenting We're talking about this I will commend the president's service chiefs There is a remarkable defense in terms of methodology I will commend the president's service chiefs However, they make a very bad situation A situation that was exacerbated by their criticism I tell you, these very commanders Yes, we agree Once in the weapon, the god has his enemy And the devil has his friend The president What's really happening is anywhere in that way Probably the chief of defense is upset He's very full of himself He's probably upset And he's trying not to be sure about it Not as if the president is in trouble Behind the former service chiefs And things got worse under them Monies have obeyed them We are disused and puzzled Not to reward them We can pass under our footmen That is the problem But of course, you know that there need to be tried You know, I mean everyone is I know that You heard the comment Definitely That's an allegation That's an allegation Well, it's still I mean, to be honest, you know, Mr. Angotar I think we have one more story to, you know, that we can throw at you But, you know, regardless of how silent they are It's still left for the Nigerian government to audit this You know, they audit the funds that have been paid to the army And if the Nigerian government fails to do so Then it's, the honest is left for the Nigerian government It's the Nigerian government that is failing Not these persons who have been, you know, accused No, no, no, no, no, no The Nigerian government is As the question is responsibility It's not touched by The Nigerian government can come up and decide to prosecute It's a crime Well, we'll see how it goes So the Nigerian government, yes, repudiation of obligation But then that does not mean that these persons They haven't achieved any allegation They have to do this Oh well That's what it is So the Nigerian government, you want to say a word? Mr. Angotar Let's bring up something else Mr. Angotar, let's move away from the service chiefs and the likes Let's look at something on the Nigerian Tribune Top left corner, it's saying, you know, it's asking Is Nigeria ready for global energy transition by 2025? I'm sure we know the answer to this But I want you to also respond And also, you know, ask, you know, another question I'll be asking with regards is Should this even be a part of our conversation now As a country If the world is moving on to a totally different, you know Energy source There's an energy transition that is expected in 2025 Is should Nigeria even be a part of that conversation? The sense that it's also a country You know, it's 100 people in a class Out of the 100, maybe there's 15 or 20 of them Are the serious students Others have joined the bank world That's what we do So I don't really think we should even Waste our time Don't know the time discussing what is the obvious This is a country that does not even know What 2022 December holds to itself It has no plan So what are we talking about? Are we ready? Are we ready for anything? Everything in Nigeria comes by surprise Even if there's an attack, it's always by surprise It's by chance If we succeed, we say, who? Where is the plan? Millenium development goes Oh, this goes Oh, that's what has happened We did shift in the day Yeah, but President Mamudubari has been attending, you know, Certain conferences across the world Oh, God of Israel I just told you Some persons are just there to drink the bank What about that? I said, what are you saying? What impact has it made on you? What impact has it made on you? What is the impact? I'm saying that your president will give me your country Never, you have to work in it But I can build a team It's not a team Don't meddle, I call you to have You don't need to have meddles And if there's a problem You can imagine the forex How much you spend So what are we talking about? We can't talk about what we lost Because Bahamina do not allow you to enjoy So it's your time to go Tell this more, but you need to let me But you know that some of this travels I mean, it's still part of, you know, The presidential functions I mean, this is some meetings I just have a simple question I have a simple question What Nigeria and what, only one? Only one? How? You just want to feel the impact of wine But if you have an answer, you get the impact That's all about the presidential one Mention one in Nigeria Mr. Inkotari You are looking at me You are looking at me now Mr. Inkotari You don't know We'll put up with Inkotari Thank you very much for joining us this morning We truly enjoy speaking with you Thank you And we want to wish you a very, very Beautiful day ahead Thank you very much All right Pretty interesting conversation this morning We'll take a short break And of course, share with you what happened On this day in history We're going to be talking a little bit About Aretha Franklin, the legend And then right after that Our first major conversation for today Moves to Bernou State We'll be back