 I'm Malan and Derek and Tristan, and I went for breakfast this morning with a beautiful thing at the cafe on the water, and there was these two beautiful white angels at the other table. Who know, and neither. But Malan came up with this beautiful metaphor, and this is why I wanted to share, because I was thinking, well Jesus spaking metaphors all the time is horrible. And maybe if we just went from the other side with a story, or an analogy, like a metaphor that might also just help drill the forgiveness thing. So Malan said well, and then also Susie's got one, so remind me of Susie as well, but just to come on another side. But Malan said well okay, so you're wearing this beautiful white shirt, like the two angels at the other table. And the fly comes and lands on the shirt, this doubt forgiveness thought process metaphor. And do you swap the fly, and leave a nice stain on your shirt, which our peer would laugh at all day, or would you flip the fly off, like Tristan did yesterday with a March fly, and then hurt the tall March flies will be hurt. He was being my hero. He was. I'm just, you know, because that's the reaction if you like, or the resistance to the fly, and acknowledging that's existence, and reacting to it, or doing something better, trying to push it away. Or do you just leave the fly there, and love it, or whatever. And I wrote down in big letters, the biggest thing on my page, on many pages with forgiveness, they're called release. Trust that's correct. But maybe if we've got that problem with word forgiveness, or we're not quite getting it, should we relate it? Sorry, replace the word forgiveness with release. Release. Because if just, I don't know if it's like the sega just stepping in all the time with mental amnesia again, you know, five minutes later. I got it, and then you sort of forget it. You've got to go on live for it again, and try to remind yourself, and stay in line. It's getting down to the core of things, because, yes, I think what Derek was sharing, his revelation about his joining with Elfie, and one more thought added on, would take away the experience that they were in. And then Raj shared with me, if you want to just share a little bit about what you shared with me at the break, because this really relates directly to this forgiveness process. It occurred, what happened was I got up to go for the morning tea on, and to go in to bring up the bits. So followed me in, and they gave her a hug. While I was hugging her, I realized that I was completely one with her. And as we sort of separated, I suddenly realized that in the moment that I would speak, she would have to interpret what I said, like Derek's words, would have to interpret what I said, and in that moment, the joining of oneness split into two, separated. And I was predicting my thoughts out there earlier, and I realized that if I'm, oh, I was sitting here, and I was feeling you all, and feeling you all, and I was totally integrated with the group. But the moment I focused my eyes on one person, and identified that person in my mind, suddenly I was no longer in oneness. So if love is constant and only love is real, that has to be the place that we start. But the temptation is to start from the other end, I mean the ego and all the other things that I've got to get to love. Let's just go and start with, I am love, only love is real, only love is here, that's all that exists. Unless or until I choose to separate from it by either saying something which requires a response or by doing something which requires a reaction or something. So I'm making the choice always to separate from a place of love. I love the fly analogy on the shirt. Suddenly reminding me of a really spiritual friend I have called Joshua, who taught me for a walk one day, and we stopped on a building site in its dusk. Beautiful, the lights all coming on on the Gold Coast. We're sitting there together side by side, and I can feel his bare arm, because he's got no shirt on and I've got a t-shirt on, and we're sitting so close that we're just like this, I can feel his thigh, I can feel his shoulder, we're kind of leaning through each other. And the mosquitoes are all over me, and I can't believe it, I mean it's not just one or two, they're like everywhere. And I said, these mosquitoes are driving me nuts, I'm getting bitten to death and I'm sweating and doing all this. And Joshua's sitting there, he said, there aren't any mosquitoes. And I look at him and he's got no clothing, but he's just got a pair of shorts on, and there's not a mosquito near him, and we're attached to each other. I've got the mosquitoes, he doesn't have any. I said, I don't understand. He said, let them go. He said, they're not real, they're just in your mind. And that's with the fly. So, you're still trying to get rid of the fly or deal with the fly, go back one step, there is no fly. Where did the fly, my question to you is, where did the fly come from? Somehow, somehow at some point, I'm just using you Frank with this white shirt, the person wearing the white shirt, for one second split away from being loved, just being the white shirt, and the fly came in. So then let it go. Then just deny though, if it would say they're beautiful, it's like they have white people with Kirsten. If you deny that the people are there though, saying okay, those people don't exist, you're going to say that. Well isn't that the whole basis of the quandary of the course, isn't it? Yeah, I guess I'll refer them back to I asked David in Tilber, do you see them as your brother, or do you see them as not there? And at one stage in Tilber, there was this, just think of, love me, stamped on your forehead, and I've just put two more words with that now. Just trust me as well, love me and trust me, trust me that I'm there to teach you something as well, let's just love me, hand over the fly to the Holy Spirit, and He removes everything in this process I wrote down the other day to clarify, He removes everything that is false, that is an idol of dreams, and gives me back only what represents truth. The white shirt. Well, if there's any truth, what's the way of being the fly? Because we're talking about the fly, the white shirt was the backdrop, because I didn't want to hurt my backdrop. But isn't the white shirt love? Isn't that who you are? And then the fly is the thought, for one minute that I'm separate, there's more than just, there's something other than love here, there's a fly. Now there's a fly on the love, which is separate. Suddenly you split from only love, which is just the white shirt. Two, white shirt and a fly. Now you've got separation. That's related to everything we're talking about, but Suze talked at the very beginning about just that, a decision to all suffering, it's a decision to leave love, then we're getting down to the real line points with this perspective about the fly, using the metaphor of this shirt, white shirt and the fly. And I've done many talks over the years, I've talked about a blue bottle cap. We had a whole, I had whole sessions on the blue bottle cap. Let's try to go at salvation or enlightenment from the blue bottle cap, and really the fly on the white shirt is the same. I want to read something from A Course in Miracles, because I think you'll be able to begin to grasp the answer from these words from Jesus. He says, you live by symbols. You have made up names for everything you see. Each one becomes a separate entity identified by its own name. By this, you carve it out of unity. By this, you designate its special attributes and set it off from other things by emphasizing spaces surrounding it. This space you lay between all things to which you give a different name. All happenings in terms of place and time, all bodies which are greeted by a name. The space you see is setting off all things as the means by which the world's perception is achieved.