 Welcome back to theCUBE's coverage of KubeCon, CloudNativeCon 2021, we're in person. Physical event, I'm John Furrier, host of theCUBE with Dave Nicholson, my co-host, Annette Mulaney, who is our not-so-roving reporter, unemployed software engineer, unemployed comedian. Great to have you on theCUBE. Thank you for that list of credentials. You're doing great. I saw you were having some fun down there. We got this new show we're testing out called The Grill. Here it is, okay. What's the focus? What's the story behind everything? The focus of the show is trying to have some fun with tech. Tech has a lot of self-seriousness. There's a lot that's ripe to make fun of. We're also having fun. We're not trying to grill people in, we're not trying to roast them. We're having people come through, they're sharing funny stories. We're having a contest to find the best mansplenation of Kubernetes. Right now I got to say a woman is in the lead. Oh, she killed that contest. Like called me sweetie and everything. It just proves that it's not about the man you identify as, it's about the condescension in your heart when it comes to mansplaining. What is the best criteria that you, when you get a candidate for the mansplaining competition, what is the criteria? I mean, number one, we're looking for condescension. You get extra points for the phrase well actually. We want a supercilious attitude. If you are partially into explaining it and then you stop yourself because you think you've used too technical of a term and then step it down, all of those get you extra points in the mansplaining. I got to ask you, what's your biggest observation as you kind of look at this ecosystem? I mean, it's a big event, but COVID, post-COVID, in COVID, people are wearing masks, not wearing masks, I mean. People are wearing masks for the most part. You know, I did love this red light, yellow light, green light system they came up with. Green meaning please touch me. I've been inside for too long. Red meaning I still care about COVID. Yellow, you know, ask me, we'll figure it out. All right, what's the funniest thing you've heard so far? The funniest thing I have to say, I asked someone what their favorite tech joke is and he said, it worked on my computer. That was the main, okay. That really stirred up some memories. Oh man, we're in LA though. This is a great area. It's littered with the best comedians you can think of or work their way through the system. But with tech now and everything, is tech with gadgets and with like Kubernetes. I mean, it's, the material writes itself. I mean. Surely. I mean, you must be having some fun. Oh, I'm definitely having a ton of fun. I wouldn't say the material writes itself. I would say hire me to write material, but it is quite a fertile field. Okay, what would you write for looking at the keynote today, looking at the vibe here? I'll say a lot of people didn't show it as they're remote, but usually it's packed house here, but what's your first comedic view of the fog lifts in this community? I have to say, the thing that really stuck out to me from the keynote addresses was that people have not yet adjusted to being in person. There were some very, very delayed applause breaks where people realized they were not muted watching on a screen and you would soon go over, that's right, we should interact. Like God bless those speakers. It's a, people have been inside for a long time. Dave, you're a R-Time comedian too. I mean, co-host of Q. I don't find anything funny with technology and I'm curious, when you use the word supercilious, is that a comedic term? I hadn't heard that before. It's the Latin form of super silly. So yeah, which is my brand of comedy. So the mansplaining, I don't know if you need to like woman-splain some of this stuff to me, but. I'll English major-splain. Supercilious. It sounds super silly. So is it okay to have a ringer come in and make an attempt at the mansplaining? 100%. Okay. 100%. I'll come in wearing a different shirt. Look, I'm trying to make this a safe space for women at the conference. I'm the only woman you should be mansplaining to. That's a good tip. I'm a martyr falling on the sword of mansplaining for all the great technical women at this conference. Well actually, let me, I mean. You slipped that in so bad. Can you translate that for us, John? I don't know, I have to explain that in a little more detail. What I love about the vibe is that this technical people, they're snarky. If you get at their core, I mean, we were at the bar, everyone was like totally leaning into like comedy and more fun because it's almost like they're going to bust out, come out of the closet and be comedians. Oh, there is a broiling anger in the soul of every developer and every person who's worked on technology. And the question is going to be, can we get it on camera when they are not drunk? We're doing our best. They do like to drink these developers, don't they? Oh, they do, desperately. We saw a few partaking in the bar at the GD Marit. And a lot going on, you had the Warriors game going on. You have a lot of the Dodgers were playing the Giants. So pretty active bar scene for this crowd. Yeah, no, it was very fun. I personally was disappointed that the Warriors are not actually staying in our hotel. You know, if the software thing doesn't work out, NBA wife is a possible second career. I mean, the Rick Carlton was right behind us. You could be right there too. All right, so the grill is an experiment. We're having some fun with it, but the purpose is to just chill a bit. What would you say the goal of the show is for you? I'd say the goal is to get people to come out of their shells a little bit, to have some fun, to poke fun at some of the tendencies that we see in tech that we often don't bring up. You know, like I'm having so much fun with the mansplenation. I've lived it a bit. And my favorite is as I ask men to mansplain it to me, the panic in their eyes. That's my ultimate goal is just to make men afraid. And the panic is because they don't know if they're mansplaining all the time or actually purposely mansplaining is hard enough. But they do it naturally. I have three daughters and I can't wait for them to see this stuff. I cannot wait. It's going to be great. Am I cool with Gen Z? All right, well we have t-shirts, right? Let me see the t-shirts, give everyone a quick, if you come on, this is day one of KubeCon. So if you do come on the show with the grill. I'm the t-shirt fairy. The grill is like the cubes version of the view. If you get a grill. Wow, just because I'm a woman. The t-shirt is a big incentive. I'm sure a lot of people who go to tech conferences don't get any free t-shirts. Okay, I got grilled by Annette Malini on theCUBE at KubeCon. It's a light grilling. KubeCon, not KubeCon. It's a medium rare grilling. I couldn't resist the view joke. Slimming color. We'll keep our day jobs here in the comedian angle. I believe that's true, yes. You look at the wavelengths of light. Well Annette, I'm super stoked to have you try that. I think it's a great program. Greg Gottz and you guys doing a great job. Love the vibe, love the energy, love the creativity, having some fun. You see the poster one last time. And the idea is to have some fun, right? It's a tough time. We're all coming back from the pandemic. We're all coming back from the pandemic. And this is just a fun way to kind of let the air out and have some fun. So thanks for everyone. Thank you so much for doing that. Thank you. All right, Kube coverage here, KubeCon. Cloud NativeCon, I'm John Furrier, Dave Nicholson. Be back with more day one coverage of three days after the short break.