 Calling the meeting of the November 20th meeting of the town of Arlington Redevelopment Board to order We will first go through and introduce ourselves for the record and then move on to our agenda My name is Rachel Zembery chair of the Redevelopment Board and I am so excited that we have a new record to look This evening so we'll go through and introduce ourselves and move on from there. So Steve Steve Revillock. Good evening Eugene Benson Shayna Corman Houston Can allow And we also have a clear record the director of the Department of Planning and Community Development this evening Community Development with us this evening. I apologize. It's been a long time I wonder if we all want to say something about ourselves and Shayna say something about herself. We could do that So so that you don't need to go first Steve do you want to say a little bit? Well, I'm the second so I'm the second newest member of the ARB I'm the gubernatorial appointee. I Develop software for a living and I've just Been participating in the sort of town boards for for a while and I know Shayna from working together on the MBTA community's working group Great, thank you. And I'm Gene Benson. I'm a very retired lawyer a lot of environment environmental justice and land use Stuff and for this purpose I taught Planning and land use law for about a decade and be used program City planning and urban affairs and I've been on this board for about six and a half years Great. Thanks So I'm Shayna Corman Houston. I'm so excited to join you all. I work for a non-profit affordable housing organization and No, Stephen Kim through the MBTA community's working group and I'm excited to get started this evening breeze fantastic. We have a Full agenda of topics for the spring to dive into I think a little bit to me. So I'm Rachel Zanbury I've taught been on the redevelopment board since 2019 chair for the past three years And I'm an architect. I have a design firm in Boston with offices in LA Columbus and We do a lot of commercial work housing work so a lot of the Things that we see Hi, my name is Ken Lau I guess I'm the oldest Ten years Most ten-year board member here that short My third or fourth term I don't I don't recall I guess I am the vice chair Which I do not much Mitchell carries the weight of the committee here Work for an actual firm Have my own It's relevant firm and work as a consultant for owners or developers Great That's the makeup of our board. We all have a variety of unique perspectives that I really appreciate that we were able to bring To one of these discussions Great Let's dive right in to our first agenda item So the first item tonight is a review of the meeting minutes from November 6th, 2023 Are there any additions or corrections starting with Ken? Yes on the Third page Fourth paragraph up From the bottom The last Sent us well previous ones as Mr. Lester suggestion that he's okay the two-year extension, but wants to see evidence of progress after a year It says he would like the applicant to be required to meet the current conditions and I want to say he would like he Doesn't feel it that happening is required to meet the new requirements I think he's on Not in favor of that stipulation So I know how you want to be Yeah, it's direct opposite meeting what that is and then on second to last paragraph It states that he thinks that one year is fair to show the kind of progress That that's not what I meant that I meant it was probably take a year To do it architecture work and engineering work Just a bit for permit. Yes for permit. So I have given me a two-year extension felt fine to me Because a part of it was almost a year or more and then he had to find financing everything else to go along with that so that's What's my explanation there? Any other additions or corrections gene none Steve none I don't have any either. So is there a motion to approve the meeting minutes as amended so moved for a second second We'll take a roll call vote actually starting with Ken. Yes, Steve. Yes, Gene. Yes, Shane. I know you'll be to extend And I am a yes as well. So those have been approved All right that closes agenda item number one we will now move to the second agenda item Which is the meeting schedule and I'll turn it over to Claire We had previously discussed some potential dates for our 2023 board retreat. That's right. Thank you I have reached out to APD to see if we could get their conference room for December 3rd Which I think was the day we had sort of tentatively circled on our calendar for our retreat I have asked for the room from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. But obviously we do not have to stay that long We could be from 10 to 2 or 9 to 1 or whatever people think makes sense If I can't get that room, then we'll likely meet here In the community center and I can reserve it again for 9 to 3 and then we can decide which 4 hour block We'd like to take duration of time So as long as the board is still okay with the 3rd and 10 to 2 or 9 to 1 Sounds good, I like to suggest that perhaps we plan for 9 to noon and have a discussion around that and then once we work through the agenda We identify whether that feels like it's sufficient time for us to work through everything sounds bad That is that I know you're coming in from Lowe's on Sunday So I just want to make sure that time would be okay with you. It's fine. Okay great. We'll start with Steve for any Discussion or thoughts on timing a date. I I'm fine with the 3rd I would prefer 10 to 1 but could do 9 to noon. If 10 to 1 works better for you. I have no objections to that Jean Other time on the 3rd is fine. Okay It's fine. Yeah Okay, 10 to 1 is great for me. All right, 10 to 1 work for you Claire. That works for me. Just okay. Let's do that then All right, so we will set that meeting schedule What I I know that I'm keeping a list and I believe it Claire is to a potential topics for the board retreat So we will circulate those in the next week We need to get that posted by Next Thursday so I'll say I sent you my list earlier if I have any edits to that we can work through that and maybe you and I can just work through a agenda You got 30 on there. Thank you. Yep I can just read what and I just read through what I have on the agenda right now and that way Again, I'll keep adding to it this evening if we identify other things that are added to it, but we had talked about Strategies for keeping closer tabs on adherence to property developments with provisions of the special permit Having a discussion we'll see where we get this evening with regard to a discussion around potential warrant articles for spring 2024 town meeting so if there's any type of working session that we need to have We can discuss whether to include that at the retreat We had talked about reviewing interactive the site plan review application Updated rules and regulations related to site plan review I think we should just make sure that we have a finalized 2024 meeting schedule and we can go through that one more time now with Shayna Who has joined us so that we can make sure that that still is aligned past and approved project status Then we had begun discussion around potential urban renewal plans, and so I think that that's something that we could Continue the discussion on Anything else that people are tracking that it may not have on my list All right, I just wonder if that includes the outward house because if it doesn't yes That would fall both under Updates for past approved project status and potentially urban renewal plan, okay, but I will make a specific note of it And again, we if there are other things that we think of this evening or that you would like us to include Before we post that on Thursday of next week. Please just reach out to Claire Closes agenda item number two, so we'll now move to agenda nine item number three, which Includes zoning amendments preliminary discussion for the 2024 spring town meeting And clear I will turn it over to you. Great so I put this list together from Rachel's running list of items discussion items we were looking to Potentially progress to a spring town meeting Including the irons and heights business district and the reduced type buffer area, which I know this board has talked about several occasion occasions, you know the B1 zone Looking at the Walgreens site Re-zoning cemeteries to the new cemetery zone or open space zone. I spoke with David Morgan also this afternoon He is interested in looking at Any conservation properties or potentially parks and rec manage Properties parks apartment or even select for that are currently either used as open space or are open space Whatever, but are also zoned residential So that looks like it may could potentially be expanded to include some other areas Church properties in town. Obviously Those are not necessarily are one One that I am interested in which is illuminated signs Could be approved via an administrative process I'm not getting a lot of sign applications that are not Illuminated and yet, you know, the often they fit the zoning in all of the ways I want to make sure that you know be in the ARVs regulations you have jurisdiction over most So I'd like to be able to be interested in being able to And then TM would be a resident with residential provisions and I think Jean this one can something that you were looking to So this was sort of what's on the table right now also, we have a really great and rather exhausted list of zoning recommendations that have come out of Come out of our recent plans Kind of line up with this list together before our retreat last year Some of these have been achieved. I want to say Over the last two town meetings some are still outstanding Some I think are adjacent to Other items that they're looking to talk about and progress in the next spring town meeting But still, you know this list endures And it's something that we could take a look at to to bring forward Additionally, we have Some articles that have been suggested by the ZBA some are administrative Some I think might require more discussion by this board one is One is potentially eliminating section 57 and 58 Which is the inland wetland overlay district? You know the ZBA and the concom had two projects that are where the inland wetland overlay district has applied in the past year or so and the requirements have both been waived as The regulations of the conservation commission have achieved what the inland wetland district would have otherwise achieved without concoms intervention So those are a few few that we have on the table right now I don't know folks. We'll let this start Talking about just leave the ARBO. Excuse me Steve. You forwarded me the zoning for flood resilience from looking at Climate goals That's also For discussion and consideration Before we open it up, I do just want to mention that Christian Klein the chair of the ZBA did reach out to Claire and myself and we have tentatively scheduled them to come in and speak to us about their proposed Warrant articles on December 18 together with the Representative from the conservation Commission Since one or more of them have to do with the conservation commission as well Thank you Claire. You're welcome. So What I would like to propose is perhaps we first I'd like to propose perhaps tabling the ZBA items until December 18th when we have the discussion with the ZBA and the conservation commission and Perhaps we start with the list that I've been keeping every time somebody says We should look at that at the next town meeting and then from there see if Run through those decide which if any of these we would like to consider for 2024 knowing that The Arlington Heights business district is probably going to take a bit of time and energy I Do want to mention that I am also starting to already keep a list for 2025 town meeting Because we had identified that after Arlington Heights We would look at East Arlington East of Orvis Street as part of the work that we did for the MBTA communities Work so if there's anything that we say That we decide for example is a good idea. We're not sure that this is the time to do it I can always move those to a future to a future date I'd like to propose that and then we can see what else gets added to the list Okay, do you want to start us off? Priorities of maybe what we have on the list here and anything we think we might be missing I think I want to talk about it in the retreat in the past We met with select board as a co-co meeting and aligned our strategies and Aligned what we're thinking of doing what they're thinking of doing and having a co-co meeting like that would be a cost to be helpful and In the past they were interested in doing that with us Just wondering what they would be willing to continue Maybe set the meeting for that to happen As we identify our articles for I would say something after a retreat so we So we say you know here are some of our goals here. So some of these we want to be doing Does this align with some of your what you guys are doing or do you want us to be consider certain things based on what they know and Just you know better communications in the two boards. I would be more than happy to talk to Eric about about that and Appropriate time it sounds like in early January We need to do that if I'm sure the warrant will open As it typically does in mid-January and closed by the end of that month, okay If it doesn't happen then it's not the end of the world It doesn't have to be around the war. So could we just how we see the future of this town? I'm happy to follow up The warrant articles Your priorities on the warrant articles that we've Proposed reviewing or anything you think might be missing There's a lot here. I think we need to go over things with development. Okay. I'm okay. What's listed here? Okay, great Steve Well, I I do have a few questions. Is it ask a few questions absolutely about this With respect to eliminating or rezoning B1 properties What's the sort of like thinking or high-level goal? This is I think Jean this is something that you may have brought up during our Review of the business area parcels as we were running in the lead up to MBTA community. So Jean, do you want to highlight your thinking here? Yes, it will be a very low-light highlight as Rachel and I Were walking massive in Broadway this summer looking at what had you know, what had been the proposal of the working group Gee, I wonder why these properties are B1. Does it even make sense to have B1 properties on Massive and Broadway anymore that was about the extent of the thinking at that point. So it didn't it was just Should we look at that? Does it make sense? Considering the direction the town has gone in the past decade to Continue to have B1 and if if not what to do with it if yes Do we want to make any changes to it? Didn't get beyond that. Okay. I could see Like allowed some of those uses on secondary roads I mean some like feeder streets and just just but moving the walk mass out makes makes sense to me and What was the motivation for making Walgreens B4? Yeah, I don't remember this one from the walk. I remember this one kicking around the ARB for years though What is it? I believe it's B2a, isn't it? Which is pretty much the same Okay, I think Steve a long a long time ago when I remember we were talking about where we Where we could increase density along mass effort businesses. Mm-hmm and Walgreens was one of the sites that was Somehow Tagged as being under underdeveloped dessert and that's where that I think that's where that spun off of okay It's a very large parcel It's in a very predominant area along that side, you know There's other parcels. That's why I think when we when we get to our Every treat also I like to bring up all the parcels along with the Walgreens like the Central Parking area In the center of town other areas there are large areas that we we show us look into but That could be a lead it but that that was that's how that sort of came from It's probably been on there. I think he's correct Five years. I remember Kenny talking about it for as long as Okay, there's Yeah, I would like to I do think or I'd like to see the Arlington Heights business district be kind of the focus Or the main piece of work, but these seem like Some some reasonable supplemental things if I could toss out a couple of a few more sure One would be I think it might have been To Mizraker. I think it might have been me who wanted more residential base TDM from the MBTA communities and I think that also ties in with some of the connect Arlington goals in the plan list This isn't on the list, but we have a special permit use in the residential districts called renting of up to three rooms Which requires a special permit it's sort of a Relic of our definition our former definition of family that prohibited more than four unrelated persons from living together, but I I'd like to Have a maybe a discussion about eliminating the special permit requirement there because it's not really It's very difficult to enforce without You know outside of complaint-based enforcement and there's some, you know fairness issues around that I think and Yeah, in terms of like the I did send a zoning bylaw working group memo about Zoning for flood resilience and it was Intended to provide sort of at the time It was written. I believe the goal was to provide sort of like a a menu of things to consider but you know things such as Allowing changing the definition of building height to allow buildings in flood zones to be elevated and possibly You know requirements that basements aren't allowed or a certain amount of freeboard is allowed or required I think those are like would be worth talking about Um, you know particularly for you know, I I happen to have an interest. I live in a flood plain Um, you know along with a portion a portion of east Arlington So I think this is you know, this is some I'd I'd rather see us get ahead of the curve ball on this That's all I have. Thank you. Great. Thank you I I agree with steve that I think The Arlington Heights business district should be our main focus for spring town meeting And I think we can talk during the retreat about how Potentially to make that happen um I think updating the transportation demand management um part of the bylaw To think about residential provisions is important because we mentioned that During the discussions about MBTA communities And the necessity to do that Um, I think we accomplished a lot this year And I'm not sure we should go back with a lot again I think if we can get Um, Arlington Heights done In the spring if we can do something with TDM I think maybe we should leave it at that this time unless People like the ZBA come to us with things that seem to be appropriate for us to do um The and the other reason I say that is I think we need to either update the master plan or Think about redoing it and that's a big project and I'm not sure we Should be doing a lot of other zoning changes until we figure out what to do with the master plan I'm just gonna say I'm gonna add that to our board retreat. Yeah, that's a topic updating the master plan. Yeah, so either I don't know if we're ready to Start a whole process of a new one or if we just want to update the one that's there I think that we can discuss but whichever one we do I think that could spread out throughout 2024 and um I think is more worthwhile than picking up A lot of the individual love things we can do to this One question related to that I might have for Claire is whether or not There is an appropriation We would need to request for you would need to request from town meeting to fund That type of an exercise because that may be the thing instead that Yes, there would be I've been I've been very very preliminary conversations with Jim Feeney about master planning and an appropriation potentially for Springtown meeting when they did the master plan they put the kickoff in 2012 They initially asked for a hundred thousand to kick off and then an additional 75 in year two That was master planning from I think not much. I don't think there was anything to to build on at that point So at least 10 years ago was a 175 thousand dollar proposition So I've been trying to play the groundwork with with mr. Feeney And let him know that this is coming I mean, I don't disagree that we should move on most of the things I have a question about a couple of them that are on The board there, but I think they can wait Basically is what I think other than the Arlington Heights business district and maybe the residential part of the Transportation demand management plan on these pages and pages of zoning recommendations I mean, some of them have been done some of them been done in different ways some of them We decided we're not good ideas of the one two three four five six Sort of plans on there three of them we were involved in and three of them We weren't involved in in any way whatsoever You know and I think it's a little harder to At least for me to get my arms around some of the recommendations made by some of the ones where we had no input And in some cases they contradict Some of the other plans So I think this I think the next step on these sixes maybe To go through them and figure out what's been done What do we want to put off or do we want to wait until we have a revised master plan or Whatever and which ones can we you know, maybe put off till a year from spring spring To 2025 No, nothing at this time. Okay great um I would like to add to I agree with gene that I think Given the amount of lead up time it was a full year for us to get fbta communities to town meeting We're going to really need to focus on the Arlington Heights business district over the First four months of the year in order to present that I agree that I think the TDM with the residential provisions we talked about I would also add the reduced height buffer area. I think again, we were fairly close there We just really needed to come to some alignment around Around the specific Setbacks and some of the other items we we just Didn't have the time with everything else coming on Everything else going on at the same time to fully vet that with the group But I I think a lot of the ground work there is done So I would suggest that that might be one That we add to the list for 2024 and I Think that pushing some of these rezoning Items in terms of what we do would be one The Walgreen site the cemeteries the church properties You know we those We may want want to push to 2025 the other one that I think Is a fairly simple Almost an administrative change is the illuminated illuminated signs of administrative process They can We need to take a close look at the zoning bylaw because I've read it as There can be administrative approval of most Types of illuminated signs Let's add that to the list and just make sure that let's let's That that and decide whether or not That even needs to be done and then we'll we can put that one to bed. Yeah And then Yes, please. I just this Sorry to interrupt. I just Forgot to mention We still have the update of the design guidelines for commercial. Yes Which I think we want to get done and in light of TA communities I wonder if we want to do one for multifamily housing also And we had an appropriation before that we just haven't spent it right and we need to I think we should be moving on So I think at the retreat I'm going to add that To that as well the question becomes master plan commercial design guidelines multifamily design guidelines, which order Do we put all of those and can we do all three and can we do all three? Can any other thoughts on what we've Spoken about today No, there's a lot I think we can that sit down and prioritize And I I agree with the rest of the board that I think heights Should be a priority. We made promises And I I want to keep those promises And I really look at that as a priority so one Thing that we might want to consider for the Retreat is to Come to that prepared having all reread the Arlington Heights neighborhood action plan And The master plan which also speaks to that The sections that speak to that area as well We can send those out as attachments Yeah We can do that in the agenda Are there any other items that People would like to see ahead of the retreat related to the Arlington Heights business district to prepare us for Being able to speak to A process well aside from the master plan and the Arlington Heights neighborhood Neighborhood action plan. Yes. I believe there was a draft set of district definitions Or a basically a draft made motion for a district It might have just it might have just been dimensional tables, but that would be another Thing to to review. I think there was that was in the package When we had originally started looking at that for spring 2023 So, yes, we can recirculate that And and do we have do we know the boundaries of Yes, that has been said so we will also include the map Because Kelly had worked through the map and it has all of the addresses. Yes That's not fixed right now. That's just that was it was just proposed. It is not nothing has been fixed. Yes, correct Thank you for the clarification. Yes so If we Are there any so we talked about the Arlington Heights business district the reduced height buffer area The illuminated signs whether or not that's required and the TDM with residential provisions. Is there anything else? Um Steve that you wanted to make sure that we got into this this year Right. I think that's good. Okay And then of course we have the six from the zba And that will speak with speak through on the 18th and then anything else that might Covered for us. I I should just mention I went to the or participated in The clean energy future committee meeting last Friday And at the end of the meeting we decided At three of us and I was one of the three Would sit down with my champa at some point and go over How The new stretch code will work in those sort of things to see if coming out of that Is any changes we want to make? to the zoning bylaw um to help move along the you know zero emissions goal, so I don't know where that's going to go, but um Talia was going to try to set up That meeting and between friday and now as you might imagine Hasn't been set up, but um, so something may may come out of that meeting. I just don't know I ask you a quick question We used to do a new stretch code. There was an existing stretch code that I don't think Arlington adopted Arlington adopted the enhanced one is the town meeting. Yes, but last year But before that it wasn't there was just the regular energy code So the stretch code is something more has it changed and After what was before? Yeah, that's my understanding is we have adopted the enhanced version So it is somewhat and I I can't tell you what the differences are between them and one of the reasons that we wanted to meet with Mike was to sort of try to figure out What that would be and whether there was any interaction with the zoning bylaw we needed to be concerned about Is there something where we we learned about that because I don't know I I I don't know I don't know what I asked uh, what is so perhaps close to passive house. Yeah, it's significantly Significantly more Stringent But if I could suggest if gene is going to meet with Mike and review that perhaps we ask gene to give us a Yeah, I'll be happy to if it happens before the retreat Yeah, okay, and that's been adopted by the state. All right It was it was an option for towns to adopt and we adopted it at spring town Okay one item that I Would like to make sure that we get out um an early december Claire um, we typically put together a schedule for any citizen who was interested in um putting forth a Warrant article related to the zoning bylaws so that they understand the timeline in the process and thereby encouraging them To engage the redevelopment board as early as possible so that we can work together to help them refine their Warrant article before they do all of the work of putting it forth and collecting the signatures, etc to Sure, sure. There's um, yeah, we have a What might be good to do is to publish again But what the timeline is with that with that materials for that meeting and quite frankly It's it's really one that we can just we've used it twice now In the past we should be able to just update the dates. We may even be able to for The next meeting which is the fourth and that would be by next Thursday If you have time, it's not we can do it for the 18th, but if we can do it for the fourth. There's no real discussion or um board I think just back action. It's just back out. Yeah We can like forward this six weeks exactly exactly and this is when you need to have things to the redevelopment board for review If you'd like to engage us before These are the meetings we have available Contact, you know you Jennifer whoever you would like them to contact to make sure that they Have materials and they can get on the meeting if they want feedback ahead of time They don't have to but if they would like to request it. We want to make ourselves available and I can look for the older copy You need any help putting your hand Okay Please do any other thoughts before I open it up for any public comment on the spring 2024 Time meeting articles that we will most likely be pursuing Yes All right This time I'd like to open up for public comments anyone who has any thoughts on What we've just discussed with regard to the airbeams 2024 spring time meeting Board articles, please If you come here, I will turn my microphone around Please take care of it there you go You haven't started discussing that that that chart, right? We're finished our discussion. Yes. Oh, okay Um, I'm Susan stamps 39 Grafton street on the tree committee representative to the redevelopment board I I know some of you may know that we have drafted. We're working with david morgan on a uh proposal for a new Um, the zony bylaw that that regulates parking lots More than it does now and requires street trees in parking lots for not only shade and to Reduce the heat island effective parking lots, but also to help with storm water management and You know to have bioswales and parking lots and that sort of thing to not only Move the rain water towards the trees in the parking lot but also away from the parking lot and distributed in whatever way seems to make sense but so we are on green streets arlington is working on that and We have promised david morgan that we'll have something in in shape for you to look at at your december 18th meeting as i believe claire Has had some input on that and i appreciate that Great. Thank you for that. It's great. Thank you so much. We were just discussing The timing and that is absolutely in alignment. So thank you please Grant cook 16 wallaston. I do agree with you that there's not a lot of energy for the sprang so How the heights and parking seem very appropriate, but just watching it you didn't mention the And i don't know if you should will but The saint camille's property is pending something. I don't know if anything will ever happen to it But there's been talk That there could be change in that area I guess questionably will you be ahead of it or behind it? So this is my point. Thank you great question. Thank you anybody I don't know. I didn't know that's something we've Spoken about as a board. So there. I don't know if you have any updates on St. Philip's property that you're able to share with us. Yeah, so the update I have on st camille's property is it's out for Forest area Yeah, the part behind the poets corner park. It's roughly six acres. It's owned by currently owned by the archdiocese of boston They have RFP that property. I have fielded many many calls from developers looking for information for it and have you know Distributed whatever public information we have on the site The archdiocese has put it out with a preference for housing The the property is currently zoned r1 r0 even So, you know, right now under the zoning that exists You could do six or seven single family homes for a 40p project and that seems to be The general consensus is that it will likely be a 40p project Whether it's a friendly 40p or the or the town decide that, you know, um, Claims safe harbor. I don't know. Um, but at this stage That's what it's looking like. Um, I have asked about rezoning There is little appetite for rezoning right now because 40p, you know, is a possibility I think if that is no cease to become a possibility because we've achieved safe harbor for other reasons We would definitely be looking to to reason I have had several conversations with folks who have asked, you know, what would the town like to see on the site? And I've, you know, made it pretty clear. There's not a lot down there You know, if you were to put in however many years of housing More proposed, um, you know, what about some retail space? What about some community space? What about, you know, some sort of Um, stewardship over the park And so this is these are the ideas that are, you know, we're currently being floated around The RFP is due to close soon. I want to say in January, I would have to check on that But they're looking to make an award by early spring That's where we are on that It's clear for Uh, any other questions or discussion from the board? Gene? A couple of things. I forgot. I thought that the affordable housing trust Fun Coletti is going to bring affordable housing overlay To us some time. So I think that will be the other big thing potentially That we will be looking at and potentially going to a town meeting In the spring and I think the sooner they can get to us The better and what I had heard through the grapevine Was they're not sure what they're going to present. That's a good time to come and see us Um, when they're not sure what they're going to present as opposed to they had their final proposal um, so Yeah, I've that was one of the other things that um I wanted to mention about that Thank you. I had fallen off my rink and I appreciate you bringing that one back up They are meeting on November 30th. I will put that on their agenda To get an update on the affordable housing overlay and let them know that they should Bring it to the ARC sooner or the ARB, excuse me, sooner or later And if I can respond to what Susan said It's good you're coming on the 18th. I just wonder whether Something that says trees and parking lots is even belongs in the zoning bylaw Or it just belongs in the town's general bylaws Having to do with private property. So it's worth I mean coming Sort of here, but I think it's worth thinking about Where would it best be? You know zoning bylaw a non zoning bylaw and um And you and I had this conversation a while ago. I'm not sure what's better trees or canopy with solar roof So I think it's worth having that conversation Yeah Or both any other comments Good discussion So if there's uh nothing else on the zoning amendments preliminary discussion We will close agenda item number three and move to agenda item number four open forum either of you Anything else that I would like to share All right, welcome to the committee We are thrilled to have five members and especially to have Shayna with us Great, uh, well if there is nothing else we'll close open forum and move to new business Claire sure. So I have a couple of updates. Um one is All flowing out of my head one is that um, I am Looking to make an offer to an assistant director By the by uh by early next week I've had some great interviews uh over the past week or so and You know, there's there's no bad choices here. And so that'll be great. But the playing part will then be up at full staff For the first time in two years is what I've heard So I have that going on the the second thing is that the submission to the attorney general and the submission to the OHLC For MBTA committees were completed as of last week Everything is in and is under review So they went in with a notice from me Letting them know that we would appreciate some urgent attention to both items. Um given our The talents desire to participate in the fossil fuel van pilot The state is well aware of what we're trying to do as is the attorney general's office, but I did, you know, obviously Alert them to that again I think that is it for Business right now. I I did say earlier the outward house. I'm meeting with The developer and Bob and niece tomorrow to talk about Potential project at the album house that I will you know, share with this board. Obviously at the at your retreat and You know, potentially at the December 4th meeting when they're ready to come in But there has been some movement on that project as well I know that one's been really really at the top of the world's mind So there has been some movement. I am talking with the folks and we should have an update for you very soon Thank you. Any other items of new business So with that, we will uh close agenda item number five and see if there is a motion to adjourn It's a motion second take a vote starting with steve. Yes gene. Yes, shana. Yes And yes as well. I think he's adjourned Thank you