 Over the years I learned that one of the challenges that our conference has had is how to reach out to non-white Hispanic communities that do not speak English. In my experience, I have served churches that were declining to the point that they just couldn't afford anymore to remain who they were. So the idea then became, well, let's reach out to a different community and see if we can save this congregation from closing. Now that's an honorable cause, of course, and I'm grateful for that because that was, that is part of my journey as a pastor. But now I can see how probably there are better ways on how to do that. Instead of waiting until it is the last resort, how about we are more intentional and proactive in reaching out to the community, you know, make Hispanic community or whatever community not for the sake of serving the church, but for the sake of, you know, becoming more diverse.