 Yama Yama Ninda, to me coming from a collectivist based society making a difference in the world is what our purpose here actually is. The psychology that I practice I I guess would be considered quite different to what a lot of people practice. I'm a strong believer in there's a difference between an Aboriginal psychology and Western-based psychologies. I studied psychology at Griffith University. These days I do a multitude of things so I still run a psychology business. I also have a non-alcoholic craft beer business. Soba came about from a few angles. Predominantly I stopped drinking completely about nearly five years ago now and that came about just through my boys just saying to me one day dad can you stop drinking silly drink and I just went yeah I can. That was part of it and the other part was I just got to a space in my life where I just couldn't handle being a hypocrite. So if I was going to be out talking to others about the dangers of unhealthy relationships with drugs and alcohol then I wanted to be damn sure that I wasn't continuing to have one myself. My experience at Griffith has changed me for the positive. I've definitely learnt to roll with the punches. It helped me to have a voice. It helped me to have a position where I get to exercise that voice. What is the future hold for me? Who knows. My drive at the moment is to first and foremost build Soba so that the charity side of it can really kick off. I really see a void in the way that drug and alcohol healing work has done in this country particularly for us as Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. I work with a lot of non-Indigenous people using Aboriginal philosophies and it works.