 Call into order the meeting of the island to select board from Monday, August 17th to 2020 As a preliminary matter, this is John Hurd select board chair permit me to confirm that all members and persons Anticipated on the agenda are present and can hear me members when I call your name. Please respond in the affirmative diamond here Joe curl here Steve Corsi here Lynn Diggins here Staff when I call your name, please respond in the affirmative Adam chapter lane Yes at the time here Inboard administrator Ashley Maher is participating remotely Good evening this meeting of the island to select board is being conducted remotely consistent with governor bakers executive order of march 12th 2020 due to the current state of emergency in the commonwealth given the outbreak of the novel corona virus In order to mitigate the transmission of the virus and reduce risk of coven 19 illness We have been advised and directed by the commonwealth to suspend public gatherings and assets the governor Governor's order suspends the requirement of the open meeting law to have all meetings In a publicly accessible physical location Further all members of the public bodies are allowed and encouraged to participate remotely The order which you can find posted with the gender materials for this meeting allows public bodies to meet entirely remotely So long as reasonable access is afforded so that the public can follow along with the deliberations of the meeting Ensuring public access does not ensure public participation unless such participation is required by law This meeting will feature public comment Even if members of the public do not Provide comment participants are advised that people may be listening who do not provide comment And those persons are not required to identify themselves This meeting the slack board is convening by zoom as posted on the town's website identifying how the public may join Please note that this meeting is being recorded and that some attendees are participating by video conference Accordingly, please be aware that other folks may be able to see you And take care not to screen share your computer anything that you broadcast may be captured by the recording Please also take Please also take care to adjust your screen Or a device name if you would like to speak in order for us to recognize speakers appropriately and develop accurate minutes It is helpful for participants to see your full name And your last name when calling upon you rather than a nickname All the meeting materials for this meeting accept any executive session materials are available on novice agenda dashboard And we recommend the members in the public follow the agenda as posted on novice unless the chair notes otherwise We're now turning to the first Item on the agenda before we do so permit me to cover some ground rules for effective and clear conduct of our business To ensure accurate meeting minutes I will introduce each speaker on the agenda after they conclude their remarks the chair will go down the line of members Inviting each by name to provide any comments questions or motions Please hold until your name is called further. Please remember to mute your phone or computer when you are not speaking Please remember to speak clearly in a way that helps generate Generate accurate minutes For any response, please wait until the chair yields the floor to you and state your name before speaking If members wish to engage in colloquy with other members, please do so through the chair taking care to identify yourself This meeting will feature opportunities for public comment on certain agenda items For comments on items after me members have spoken I as the chair will afford public comment opportunities as follows I will ask members of the public who wish to speak to identify Their names and addresses only once the chair has a list of public commentators I will call on each by name and afford three minutes for any comments Please keep in mind that all participants and all members of the public must be recognized by the chair before speaking Finally, each vote in this meeting will be conducted by roll call votes So that takes us to item number two proclamation for Ruth C Balboni Is Ruth with us Town manager for anyone representing Ruth that wants to raise their hand Yeah, I don't see Ruth's name. But yeah, it's like you just said if someone could raise their hand So if someone is here on behalf of Ruth or if Ruth is here if they can use the raise hand function on their zoom application There is one Device that just has the device name But I don't see I don't see Ruth's name. All right, so I'll go ahead and read the proclamation that we have here Whereas Ruth Claire Balboni was born September 6th 1920 in Somerville, Massachusetts And whereas Ruth attended Somerville high school and was was active in high school athletics Playing three sports basketball tennis and softball upon graduation in 1938 Ruth went to work for Rustcraft card store And whereas Ruth started working for the Raytheon company in 1941 First on the production line then later as a lab technician in 1964 Ruth moved to Arlington and started a new job with Honeywell, Inc. As a laboratory technician until her retirement in 1985 And whereas Ruth loved to travel In addition to driving across the United States She visited the countries of Morocco, Japan, Greece, Bermuda and Grenada as well as the european continent And whereas Ruth is a lifelong boston sports team fanatic and she enjoys socializing with her friends playing scrabble crosswords in Maintaining her independence by walking to Arlington center for shopping in errands And now therefore be it resolved that we the members of the select board proclaim September 6th 2020 Ruth C Balboni day in the town of Arlington in celebration of her 100th birthday We are honored to wish her good health happiness and prosperity on behalf of past present and future residents of the town in celebration of her Birthday the proclamation is signed by members of the select board so we wish with Ruth a happy birthday on september 6th and i'll go down the line just for any comments from the board that uh miss mahan Thank you, mr. Chair uh first i want to move approval as well as um say congratulations to Ms. Ruth C Balboni for Well-lived life that she's continuing on doing. Uh, especially shopping and walking analysis. So move Thank you. Hopefully now it'll be a little easier for her to walk through Arlington center with a new sidewalk mr. Diggins I'll second that and i'll say i think she might have beaten me on words with friends Uh, since she's a scrabble player and and and i've been also she's a lab tech Me and i have a really soft spot in my soft spot in my heart for lab tech Because she was one for a long time and i know of me that that's a very valued position And and if you have a good lab tech you want to keep a good lab tech isn't clearly she must have been to be one for so long Mr. Carl Say happy birthday to uh, miss Balboni and um You know, I know that she was born uh during the administration of president Woodrow Wilson and right in the aftermath of world war one and The spanish flu epidemic. So i'm sure that we could learn a lot from her so Happy birthday Yeah, mr. DeCorsi Thank you, mr. Chair. Also want to wish happy birthday to miss balboni. I know Since the Bruins Celtics and red sox are all playing tonight. We know she's a sports team fanatic I don't blame her for not being with us tonight. There's a lot to choose from so happy birthday She made a good choice and we'll coordinate to get this proclamation to miss balboni All right So we have a motion by miss mahan seconded by mr. Diggins Council Mr. Diggins Yes, mr. DeCorsi Yes, miss mahan Yeah Mr. Curels. Yes, mr. Hurd Yes The nana's boat And that takes us to our consent agenda for tonight We have meeting minutes of meetings july 20th 2020 We have a reappointment of our poet laureate of irlington steven ratner term to expire july 31st 2021 We have a request for a contractor drain layer license from jones contracting 735 washington street wallpole massachusetts We have approval of new election workers. We have john doile from 26 belview road Precinct 10 christina hurley from 69 orient avenue precinct 19 andrew o'Connell 20 Randolph street precinct 4 shannon robinson nine actin street precinct 12 in andrew ward 11 martin street precinct 15 I will take a motion from mr. DeCorsi Yes, I move approval of all the items on the consent agenda Thank you, and mr. Carl. Do you have a second second And miss mahan any comments? No, thank you, mr. Chair Yeah, mr. Diggins any comments? Well, I just have one little comment for the um Port laureate, you know, and that is um roses red Files of blue for another year here. We now reappoint you. Thank you We have a future poet laureate You're right So a motion to approve the consent agenda for mr. Corsi seconded by mr. Carl Turni hind Miss mahan Yes Mr. DeCorsi Yes, mr. Diggins Yes To carol Yes To herd Yes To animals vote Thank you And that takes us to appointments number seven on our agenda appointment to the grants committee of The Arlington commission for arts and culture formerly the Arlington cultural council Emily reynolds term to expire june 30th 2023 Miss reynolds with us Hello Hi miss reynolds If you could just state your name and a little bit about yourself and why you decided to join the commission for arts and culture Sure. So my name is Emily reynolds. I live on george street in arlington. Um, and I am I'm a newish resident I moved here moved here about a year ago. And so I'm interested partly I'm interested in joining the joining the committee partly because of that I'm interested in getting to know my neighbors better and learning more about interesting things going on in town Um, I'm also interested because of my professional background So before moving to the arlington area the boston area, I lived in washington dc And uh, when I lived there, I was a senior program officer for a federal agency that makes grants to libraries and museums So I sort of managed the whole grant making process from promoting the Applications to working with applicants and making funding decisions and then working with grantees Um, and I I really loved that work and uh, I would be really excited to do it here on a more more local level Thank you In george street right around the corner from me. So you already got to meet one of your neighbors by volunteering great All right, so I will go to Mr. Carl Yes, thank you, mr. Chair. Um, I move approval of the appointment and I wanted to say Thank you very much for volunteering and for stepping in so so quickly after You know moving to arlington. Your experience will certainly be You know of great help with the the committee As I say to have said to the last few appointees to this this committee, you know the Funding as you probably know is somewhat limited. But but there's a great track record of really leveraging it for exciting projects and we're going to be Needing those particularly as we emerge from Our isolation. So, uh, thank you very much Yep, mr. Han Thank you, mr. Chair. I'd like to second that and Hey, welcome to you emily. I'm sort of near you But not as close as our chair And I'm really impressed with um, not only you stepping up and volunteering but as you stated all the experience that you bring and I One thing that really stood out to me was um your work. Uh, I can't remember if it was a cac or icml I can't remember the acronym. Um, but around the community memory project Um, I think especially now the times that we're in I know I've seen other cities and towns Um that have started this and I think I only can have a little bit So I just not saying you have to do this, but I'd like to put a plug in I'm working with the committee and and and checking with uh, chow manager. Mr. Chaplain You kind of coordinate that because uh, I think now would be a good time to you know, have a community Memory experience document. Thank you so much for your willingness to do this. Yeah, mr. Diggins Well, I have to say that's a great idea from um, my um, my colleague on this behind and I also I'm wanting Welcome you and and appreciate You're offering to step up to this position and I'm impressed with your your um, your cv Me and i'll be definitely see the link between your cv and what you're doing and and the list of publications are very interesting To so so thank you Yeah, mr. Corsi. Thank you, mr. Chair. I also want to thank mr. Reynolds for stepping up to serve in this position and Echoing my colleague a very impressive resume. They are in great experience, which I'm sure will help Um, help out as we go forward. Thank you Yep, and I just will echo the comments of my colleagues that thank you for willingness to serve and You know, this has become such an important committee to the the town of arlington and really to the fabric of our society, so All right, so on a motion to approve by mr. Curl seconded by miss mahan turning on miss mahan Yeah, mr. DeCorsi. Yes, mr. Diggins. Yes, mr. Curl. Yes, mr. Herre Yes, jenna spoke Thank you, mr. Reynolds Thank you All right And next we have an appointment to the parks and recreation commission for an associate member scott lever term to expire june 30th 2023 We've scott with us. Yes. Are you okay? Yes Okay, you're out in your name correctly. Mr. Yes, lever. Yes. That's right. Great. If you can just tell us a little bit about yourself and why you wanted to join the commission Yeah, very happy to so scott lever town meeting member precinct eight and um interim chair uh co-chair I should say Uh In vision r. Arlington And also life lifelong well nearly lifelong member Resident of Arlington grew up in east Arlington And you know, I wanted to be able to have a positive impact on something that is very meaningful to me and The parks and the recreation programs have been something that I've enjoyed throughout my life and and also are very meaningful to my children And I live very close to monotony rocks park and and my families are very frequent user of the park And and other facilities across Arlington So I wanted to um to be able to make a connection between uh our work at envision Arlington and some of the other um Activities across town and also be able to impact something that is so important to my family especially in this time of uh social distance and and uh, kovat So, um, you know this this opening came up and and I approached adam uh about participating and and had an opportunity to meet one of the commission members and the department leader and um, you know, it just seemed like a great opportunity for me to contribute and To do something that that was very meaningful to my kids so That's about that that's about the rationale Thank you and thank you for your willingness to serve All right, mr. Corsi Yes, thank you, mr. Chair. I'd like to move Approval of the appointment of mr. Lever to the park and recreation commission Thank him for applying and um, I think it's great. Your children are involved in the Recreation and sports program. So it's nice to have a parent of a student So you look closer to um some of the activities there. So thank you for For applying and um, best of luck Thank you All right, mr. Diggins And I'd like to second that motion and I'd like to say to scott I was having the impression that you are not the interim chair Of the envision early to the standing committee. I thought that you know, you are now the chair So I hope um, I hope you're gonna stay with the standing committee, you know, because I enjoy working with you there You know, and I'll echo a biscuit the course he's um, good luck because I went to one of those park and rec commission Meetings, you know, here's the last one and and I was um, I was impressed with how long they are They rivaled the select board meeting. So, uh, so, uh, so good luck. Have fun Thank you, too All right, miss mahan Um We're losing you a little bit check my phone Yep, okay. Um, so so I just wanted to thank um scott For stepping up to the plate on this and good luck with the allington res and crusher lot hearing And mr. Carl Just have my thanks. I think mr. Doug Diggins just put a little bit of a condition on your appointment that you stay on with envision our linkedin But thank you. Um, obviously the the the parks have been very important as kind of an outlet for us right now for some of our fitness enterprises and and classes and and creative endeavors so, uh More important than ever. So appreciate it All right So we have a motion for approval from mr. D'corsi seconded by mr. Diggins Turn behind Miss mahan Yes Mr. D'corsi Yes, mr. Diggins Yes Mr. Carol Yes Mr. Herbert Yes Yeah, it was full. All right. Thank you. Mr. Lever. I look forward to working with you All right in next we have an Catherine Levine meeting is being recorded term to expire january 31st 2023 Is miss levine Einstein with us? I'm here If I just Am I saying your name? Yep levine Einstein, thank you If you can just tell us a little bit about yourself and why you wanted to join the redevelopment board Yeah, absolutely. So, um, I live on southerland road. I've lived in arlington for four years with my family Um, and I've loved getting involved with the town and getting to know my neighbors I was on the housing plan implementation committee for two years And i'm really excited to get a chance to sort of continue to support the town at all of its housing goals Um, this also is very much in line with my professional work I'm an associate professor of political science at boston university and a faculty fellow at the initiative on cities there I study housing land use and zoning and I've written peer reviewed books and articles about this And i'm especially interested in thinking about inclusive community processes And i'm so excited to get to be a part of the town in this moment where I think we're all really interested in those goals Um, and yeah, I'm just really excited to have a chance to support the town In you know moving forward and making housing that's accessible to all of our residents Okay, thank you and thank you for your willingness to serve All right, um, mr. Carroll Um, thank you very much. Um I I think I I'll first uh Move approval, but um, I'd like to just um say something, you know the the redevelopment Board is very distinctive Entity here in arlington. So it serves many purposes It's a kind of a traditional planning board proposing and and vetting zoning bylaw proposals for Town meeting it serves most of the aspects of a redevelopment authority. It now serves as the board of survey as well It also serves As a landlord for a number of our properties here in town And and also contributes to a number of our um policy initiatives to or Around housing and around master planning and such. So um, um, you partially answered this, but I'm just wondering of of that Paniply Of functions, where do you feel that your comparative advantage or advantages lie? Um, so I guess I think I'm really excited about all of them first of all, but I guess within those areas. Um, I'm especially interested in policy and sort of thinking about project approvals That's probably the area where most of my research has been focused But I think all of those are areas where I feel comfortable serving and and I'm excited to participate and learn from my colleagues on the board Great. Thank you. Your your credentials are impressive and you're Certainly must be a very busy person. So we appreciate you devoting the time Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Dacorsi Thank you, mr. Chair. I'll second mr. Curro's motion and thank mr. Levine Einstein for Applying to the redevelopment board and You certainly do have a very impressive resume. I'm impressed with your work in the housing politics lab and the work you're doing with professors Palmer and Glick. So, um, thank you for stepping up and Appreciate your willingness to serve the town Yeah, and miss mine Also, my thanks and I look forward to um, I'll make sure I get your contact Give you a call sometime in chat to give you Along from my colleagues world. Um, I was just wondering and if you're not aware, that's fine. So if you're not aware, this is sort of Arlington, there's a little bit of a conflict between various groups on preserving the current v2 district for their In use versus the new projects for new snowmen in terms of primarily primarily residential I'm just wondering that if you have thoughts on that if you haven't yet, I'll check back in with you in a month or so So I am definitely aware of some of this controversy And I definitely, you know, ad hearings would want to listen to um, what all of my, you know, future board members if I'm appointed and You know, but my colleagues saying what people, you know residents are saying Um, I think my my view and sort of thinking about these policies in general is that we as a community desperately need more housing And we need to provide it in a responsible way that respects Our community and our residents and our businesses needs But that that's sort of I think the housing need is really crushing right now in in our community and in our region So yeah, thank you All right Mr. Diggins Hi, and um, thanks for for um stepping up and your willingness to take on this position And I have to say I've been reading this and uh, it's a really good book I was hoping that I've gotten through all of it by now Uh, maybe I'm a little bit less than halfway through but it's fascinating. It really is You know, uh, you you really confront me all of the big issues head on And I I I really want to explore them in detail a lot and maybe do something with acmi you know, and so I have a Well, let me say one thing that really appealed to me to to me. Um, oops. I lost the screen. We probably still see me um was um the One of the things you proposed me I think goes on page 164 was that a once you get a lot of comments Me at a meeting instead of acting on them and you should maybe wait a week or so um before um acting on them you kind of use the the psychology of how the most recent input is the one that you weigh very heavily and uh, it also like, uh You used the term p hacking of it, uh, and and uh, I like that though should have like looking for success It's just kind of probing and probing do it all kinds of studies until you find something that kind of proves your point And then going aha, this is why you should or should not do it Now also what I've appreciated is is the study about who inputs gives input in ad meetings And the democratic the democratic process is is tough It's it's a tricky one I mean and also one of the things you talk about in the book is how me sometimes getting more participation doesn't really get you the diversity of the presentation that you want me but You know it's uh people you have what you have me I mean the people who do show up me they they care Uh, we may not agree with them, but they care and and so I guess I want to have a sense of how it is Given your feelings about things me that people will feel that be their input Is weighed in a way that makes them feel that they really are a part of the process and not being dismissed Thank you for that and thank you so much for reading our book first of all. It's amazing. Um, but no It's a really important question right that I think everyone who cares about these projects should feel like their voice has been respected and heard um And so to me where I sort of think about how my research intersects with my work on the redevelopment board Is um that absolutely everyone I want to hear everyone's views and I want to think about them seriously But I want to contextualize those views and that the people who show up to speak at those meetings They're important and they deserve they it's part of our laws. Um, and I think it's important for them to be able to speak out Um, but we also have to remember all of the other people who are affected by these decisions Who we also represent in a town who maybe didn't have the time to show up because they didn't have the child care Or they're working multiple jobs or they didn't know a meeting was happening in the first place So I think our job and government it's really hard because we both need to listen to the folks in the room But we also really need to think about our really important and valued constituents who are not in the room as well So contextualizing those voices is also really important I appreciate that. Thank you very much and uh, and um, this chair if um if I may after we we vote Me if I could have a question time permitting me to them to this time. I appreciate it for miss levine. I sign. Yes Do you want to ask that? No, it's a little tangential. So I mean if we have the time, I mean I like to do it, but but So I would ask you that I don't want to You're the chair. I'll do it now. I'll do that. So uh, this is tangential. I mean, uh, the only link to it is house Um, it's a word house. Uh, and so as you know, the federal reserve, he had to study back from 2015 about the net worth In, uh, white households is nearly 250 000 dollars and for black households is eight He uh, I've been thinking about it a lot. I mean in terms of how to Uh, perhaps solve it. I mean, it's a little bit of algebra. I mean, I'm wondering what what potential solutions do you see? to that, you know Yeah, so yeah, obviously I I won't take a steeper field But we're really links to housing is housing is such an important contributor to our net worth and so I think having Accessible housing accessible opportunities for homeownership for all people. Um, is really important. Um, and as it relates to this board providing diverse housing stock in the community So that people at different income points and wealth points can access housing markets in high opportunity communities I think it's a really important equity goal. So yeah, so it's a really important report. Thank you for using it Thank you, mr. Chair. Thank you All right, and I just again like to thank you for your willingness to serve This is such an important board in town in the next Year and year is coming. We as a suckboard are going to be working very closely with redevelopment board to identify Any what if any zoning changes need to be made to our zoning laws? And so we look forward to working with you closely on this we always mention when we do appointments how We're impressed so impressed by the quality of candidates that we have that volunteer in arlington and say your resume is Just about up there if not on the top with the top candidates we see so you're certainly qualified for this position All right, so we have a motion for approval from mr. Currow and seconded by mr. Dacorsi attorney hind Mr. Mahon miss Mahon. Yes, mr. Dacorsi. Yes Mr. Diggins. Yes Mr. Currow. Yes Mr. Hurd. Yes unanimous vote All right. Thank you. Ms. Levina Thank you. Next on our agenda. We have licenses and permits We have for approval of food vendor license for abbots frozen custard 71 park avenue in denning court It's jason with us Yes, i'm here And mr. Denning court I get to say this for just about most of the food vendor licenses, but i'm very excited about this one I love abbots across my office now. I have any in my house Nice pending approval. If you want to just tell us a little bit about your application Sure, so originally this started off is just a way to try to You know serve the Arlington Heights neighborhood and we started looking around in January and February. We were trying to identify a place just to put our cart, but then I started clocking through alley Carter about some of the vacancies in Arlington Heights and we're just considered like a pop-up seasonal location So we found 71 park ab which is about 300 square feet. It's Right next to the frame framing company there as well as century 21 and it's Cross from the old Brigham's And so i've been working with the landlord literally since january february, but obviously things got delayed With all that's going on in the world. And so here we are End of the summer trying to move forward with this and see if it's Can become more of a permanent location instead of a Instead of just a seasonal pop-up location So that's generally the gist of what we're trying to do here. It's going to be more of like a walk-up Walk-up window. It's not going to be a full service location, but we will have most Most products available will make all the products in our Arlington Center location And then just sell them from this location And miss mahan Thank you, mr. Chair Based on what mr. Denning court and the esteemed chairs high praise. I'd like to move approval Thank you And mr. DeCorsi Thank you, mr. Chair y'all second Miss mahan's motion just a question for mr. Denning court Right now you from the application your lease your tenant will Through september 20th. Is that still the end date or or hopefully we we have one more weather And you maybe can go through october or even into november, but I just wanted to ask you about that on the seasonal nature of it Yeah, I think that you know, I think I wrote this application at a time when um, It was unclear I mean the lease terms were unclear, but yeah, it's going to be at least a three-year commitment, so You know the seasonality the seasonal Experimentation is kind of behind us now, so I'm just going to kind of move forward with it Okay, thank you. Yeah, best of luck. Thank you Mr. Carl Well, I want to just thank you very much for making this investment especially up in the heights, you know, this is um We've been hearing a lot of tough tough stories the last last few months So it's it's so wonderful to see Um someone opening a new a new location. Um especially up in the In the heights, which I know has been looking for some variety there I was thrilled when you came to the center because I didn't have to go to lexington anymore And I'm even happier now that uh, I have a choice so Yeah, thank you and mr. Diggins Yes, thanks a lot, you know, it's just kind of curious me, you know, I was looking around looking around on the website How many locations do you have nationwide? There's uh 39 locations. Okay. I only saw five on the site and so I thought that was a little low So very cool. No, that was great. And and um, I think there's five in five in massachusetts Okay I've muted myself. Thank you. You know, I think um New englander is a kind of hardcore when it comes to their frozen treats We'll be eating them year round, especially in the heights. So thanks Good to hear All right, and again, thank you for your willingness to Stay in business in alleyton and expand All right, so we have a motion for approval on mr. Mahan seconded by mr. D'corsi attorney hon Miss mahan I'll come back to her mr. D'corsi Yes Mr. Diggins Yes miss mahan But miss mahan, uh, has seems to have lost Audio, I think we have her back Miss mahan, can you hear me? No, I on her I'm I can look at her connection and she doesn't have The audio connection right now In the record reflect mr. Chair that at 754 p.m. Approximately lost the audio of A select board member dian mahan Yes, so reflected Um, I'll finish taking the roll call vote for now and we'll while we try to restore miss mahan's audio Yep Um, mr. Curo. Yes Mr. Hurd. Yes So at present mr. Chairman, it's a 4-0 vote. Um I don't know if you'd like to proceed or you'd like to try to get miss mahan's vote before we move on um Just want to confirm did did we just lose her again? Yep, it looks like it's 755 we lost the video and if We're connecting to audio Now try dian All right, we can proceed with this one with a 4-0 vote And I'm getting a nod of approval by miss mahan So we'll put this in the record as a 4-0 vote that Reflecting that dian lost audio for a brief period and that work That's all we need attorney hind That's right All right, and so that takes us To our newly minted open forum I apologize. I didn't get a chance to change the name of the meeting of the open forum when the agenda was first uh posted but if you look now it says open forum Except in unusual circumstances any matter presented for consideration of the board shall neither be acted upon nor decision May the night of the presentation in accordance with the policy under which the open forum was established It should be noted that there is a three-minute time limit to present a concern or request so Chapter lane if you let me know who we have signed up Right, so we have one hand raised right now. Uh, the name is jordan winstein We'll give you another few seconds if anybody would like to speak in the open forum. Please use the raise hand function on your device Would you like me to promote jordan to panelist so he can speak out? Yes, please do Mr. Weinstein are you with us? I'm with you All right, if you could just state your name and address for the record. Yeah, uh, jordan winstein 23 lennon road precinct 21 in arlington. Um, I just wanted to Thank the select board In the upcoming letter that it's going to be voting on to send to To send to the executive director of mass housing In regards to the myrax development That it has taken note of the concerns about the loss of commercial space currently used by artists and one commercial tenant And that it also it agrees that these are important for arlington to keep and To try not to lose them as a result of the development So it's much appreciated that the select board has done that and also in regards to the upcoming discussion about the The timing and the way to perhaps conduct the special town meeting I'd also like to extend an appreciation that the select board is considering the use of a virtual Way to do that online to Allow it to happen and give us time to actually discuss things in in depth without Necessarily, you know Endangering anybody's health. So thank you very much for those two things Great. Thank you Mr. Tom Andrew, do we have any additional hands raised? You know And miss mahan Is your audio restored? Oh, yeah So I um I can see and we one hand was just raised Um, I can see miss mahan's phone number as an attendee um And I've allowed it to speak, but it seems like it's muted. Is it is it muted on your phone diane? Mr. Manager, uh, can we try uh, what is the star? um Star six star six. Yeah, I believe to unmute Okay, now you can hear me. Yeah, we got you Uh, thank you. I'm sorry the call just failed. I'll try not to make that happen again And mr. Chaplain, who is the person that raised the hands patty muldoon Any additional hands raised at this time? There are not no, all right So we will turn to miss muldoon and that won't put a close. This isn't to open form All right, miss muldoon I just wanted to second what Um What was just said by mr. Weinstein is not doing if you can just state your name and address just for the record Thank you. I'm patricia muldoon 67 smith street Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you for considering Um moving our town meeting online. I will feel much safer If if we can pull off that feat. Thanks. That's all All right. Thank you All right, and that will put a close to open forum And that brings us now to traffic rules in order number 11 on our agenda for approval removal of one elm tree one sugar maple one crab apple two norway maple trees at the old burying ground is um Mr. Chaplain is mr. Feeney going to present this or did you want to Jim you Jim's hearing you should be coming up on screen Good evening members of the board Thank you. If you can just tell us a little bit about the request Sure. So this request is before you this evening due to the uh previously funded cpa project to restore the perimeter wall at the old burying ground uh, the time has come to begin construction on repairing the entire perimeter of the wall at the site And in doing so we're going to have to remove some volunteer trees that have sprung up over the years and we're not Removed but are currently now either damaging the wall or structures into world to the cemetery So they are either that or they are sort of interfering with Access to the wall or the structures that need to be repaired so In the planning phase for this project, we did hire the conservation and preservation arborist via tree specialists incorporated and we had them conduct multiple site visits with our own tree warden In while there were a few other mature Healthy trees identified for possible removal We reviewed them more closely once we awarded the contract to a masonry contractor and learned from him exactly what Trees were truly in the way and those which we could work around so this is The most conservative request possible that we're able to bring before the board there are two other trees that are Larger and healthier that are not currently impacting any structures though. They're not in great locations That we decided it would be best to monitor sort of the rate in direction of their spread over the years to come but Didn't feel it was necessary to remove them from the canopy just yet so in addition to the five trees We're seeking approval to remove that you noted mr. Chair within our Scope of work. We're also seeking to perform maintenance on all of the remaining trees within the grounds so that we can sort of Re-invigorate the the core canopy That will remain so we will be doing a lot of maintenance pruning Sort of crown reduction and weight reduction a lot of strategies that will help prevent A lot of the deadwood that falls after every windstorm and damages headstones will also do some Girdling root maintenance so You know while we do hope to perform outright removals on some of these scrub type invasive trees. We are also Planning to perform pretty intensive maintenance on the trees to remain and are also committed to Replanting at least five trees. We've worked with the tree warden again to identify appropriate sites for trees within the grounds that we don't believe Uh would impact any of the structures That are there and you know are likely going to replenish losses that have been experienced over time So that is sort of the basics Yeah, I will note that we have a letter of support posting the agenda from the community preservation act committee As well as received today over the weekend. There was a vote by the islanding historical committee to Support the tree removal as well All right The islanding historical society All right, so I'll turn to members of the board for question comments or a motion Mr. Diggins um, I have motion to Approve the tree removal as suggested or as um noted um in the letter All right, and mr. Crow I'll second the motion I'll also note that we also received a piece of correspondence and support of this but from the cemetery commission Thank you And miss mon No comment. Thank you Yeah, and mr. Corsi But no comment All right, so we have a motion for approval from mr. Diggins seconded by mr. Carl attorney heim Mr. Heard Uh, I normally the the board would treat this as a hearing allowing public Comment and there is one raised hand if you're okay I will open this to public comment and We have we have one raised hand keith schnebley okay So we can promote mr. Schnebley Mr. Schnebley, are you with us? He's here How's that can you hear me now you can Okay, sorry about that. So um, my name is keith schnebley. I live on webcow road. I'm a member of the tree committee um, I just wanted to note that Mr. Feeney did send us all this information Last week before we had our tree committee meeting And it feels like it's good to be informed. I think that it's also important that we are Planting as well as pruning and ticking down trees so I want to just Ask a question about the tree hearing process and when it's appropriate when it's not Um, but before you answer that I do I do want to say that we've had a couple of instances in the last few months where either the Department of Public Works or the facilities department has come to the tree committee and I think it's a good precedent for them to come to us and talk to us about the process so that we understand What's being done? And in this case it was just done by letter, but I really like the idea that they come and talk to the tree committee meetings before um, proceeding to Implementing the plan Okay, great. So I guess I'm speaking in favor. I think it's a good plan I am sort of curious when and when we don't have tree hearings and what the impact of those Those are Yeah, I could give a brief synopsis in answering that question. So Uh in in general from statutory point of view and and attorney hind could certainly clarify if I get this wrong but uh tree hearings are statutory required for trees that abut the public way so But so basically street trees are what require public hearings or public shade trees Would be what requires a tree hearing several years ago In cooperation with the tree committee We committed to holding tree hearings for Trees that wouldn't be statutorily required as public shade trees But to make sure there was public process around the removal of these trees We committed to holding hearings some of this stemmed from the upset Uh that followed the removal of a tree as part of the magnolia park renovation that most of us probably recall um, so we've been going through that process in We came to you with a request for removal for the lake street bikeway crossing As well as one tree as part of the arlington center sidewalk project and now this project at the request of the tree warden who Felt like based on the realities of this virtual world that were existing in And uh, I I guess I don't want to put words in his mouth But I I also believe somewhat of his Feeling that these had been appropriately vetted and could be brought directly to the board from a streamlining point of view Uh, that's why these past two have occurred in this manner um, I think it it's probably a good time for Myself and the director of public works and tree warden and anybody else appropriate probably to come back to a tree committee meeting and Assess the you know, how things have gone in the process how it's gone over the past several years And see if we want to continue as we had been if we want to put different requirements or structures in place I mean, I think it's good to have some Form of public process around the removal of trees whether that's required statutorily or not But I think honing in on the right way to do it Would be a good future discussion for us to have Yeah, I think that would be great. Uh, and you know when uh, Mike, uh Came around the lake street and the and the mass av That was a really good process, right? He brought us the You know, what would they were doing why these trees needed to be removed What was the purpose and and also a planting plan? And I guess I really like that process So I think it would be great if we could get you to come to one of our meetings in the future um And I think the only other thing I want to ask is just you know, we plant trees but They have a good chance of survival if we take care of them and water them through the heat So I'm just curious if there's a care plan for the trees that we plant in the old burying ground Jim So obviously the new the new trees that we that we plant is a town obviously we establish our own watering plan and if we Plant them via a contractor They would come with a warranty period here because there's no Irrigation in the grounds we would do so with The gator style watering bags Uh the one thing I will add that the conditions in the old burying ground for Uh growing trees have proved Really quite favorable, you know much more park-like conditions as opposed to the struggles we have with Uh street trees around town and the the conditions that they're forced to grow in so I do feel better about planting new trees in This type of use Attorney hi, I just want to jump to you for a second. Did you have any comments on the previous topic that we went through? Yes, thank you. Mr. Hurd. I just wanted to highlight uh for keith and for uh folks who are interested in watching that the Law what the law requires under chapter 87 sections three and four Are for the tree warden to have a hearing before Cutting down any public shade trees The select boarding theory only needs to be involved if there's a written objection Or any objection really expressed to the tree warden about cutting down a tree Generally, we've had as Mr. Chaplain is suggesting more involved process. It's not necessarily required by law I also just want to know from public's information that there's certain conditions that are exceptions such as you know trees that might be growing in a way to you know inhibit views uh for you know public ways in a way that would be dangerous or something like that Thank you. Mr. Schneve. Do you have any additional comments? No, thank you very much Thank you. Mr. Chaplain. Are there any other raised hands? There are not All right All right So we have a motion by mr. Viggins seconded by mr. Carl attorney. Hi Ms. Mahan Yes Mr. Corsi Yes, mr. Diggins. Yes, mr. Kuro Yes, mr. Hurd. Yes unanimous vote Thank you All right, that brings us to item number 12 discussion and approval proposed locations for blue bike stations We have generate our director of planning community development and daniel ampsets our senior transportation planner So miss rate is at the ARB meeting tonight, but we do have dan here on both this and the next agenda item Yeah, thank you. Hi. Thank you very much members of the board I'm going to share my screen with a little the presentation that I believe oops I'm not able to share Okay, thank you very much With the brief presentation I have about these station locations So this is a follow-up from the Discussion that was at the last slug board meeting on july 20th that referred to the select or the blue bikes contract And sort of the discussion around that and so very shortly after that meeting We sent out a poll or had a survey available for the public to Look at some station locations that we had been looking at for a little while and the different networks that were possible And so I'm going to go a little bit through that and how those were um how those were conceived and some of the guidelines around how we Decided to cite these stations in certain locations or how we would like to cite them in certain locations so we Can place up to six stations in the town as part of this initial rollout or expansion of the blue bikes program into arlington I'll go through each of these These in detail there are at least four that we would like to get approval for the other two It says to be approved at a later date, but if um, have the board wishes to sort of give a given approval depending looking at a there there are some locations that we we need to look at because of Some additional conditions that may be in place there or there's one on the bikeway that were required in MBTA approval We need to look at them a little bit further, but I would also like to add that Troy McHenry I believe should be in the audience. He is Represented from blue bikes in case there are any specific questions for blue bikes Closer or during the presentation or at the end of the presentation um The bike share so the station with a number of guidelines that we needed to Follow as we looked at where to place the stations and I think we all generally know what they look like there It can be have a number of docks they're sort of modifiable In this case we'd have about I believe 11 docks and six or seven bikes per station And so they're 32 feet long and six feet wide The The station density of being no more than about a third of a mile for at least one other station plays into this because of When we had our survey of locations, there was quite a lot of Concern from residents about not having any stations in Arlington Heights But unfortunately just the way that the the density needs to be and the fact that the existing stations are in camber to the summerville on the east side of town And the number of stations we have available to us It just doesn't make it possible to get very far towards the heights But we've tried to get them as far as we can to the west They can't impede access to utilities. They have to place on firm level hardscape. They do need sunlights as they are powered through solar panels And you know in your term construction projects, this was a factor especially for the location we were looking at town hall Would be affected by the plaza construction at town hall. That's going to be happening soon and then There is a consideration that we can think about later about which Stations might be able to stay out during the winter the program is year round And generally if any communities have stations on sidewalks, they can stay out year round and blue bikes will shovel them out But if they're on the street, we usually they usually have them picked up or the communities have them picked up So they don't get hit by plows and so on So we did a a community poll connected between july 23rd and july 31st and the breakdown of the Network locations that we were looking at was in the memo, but the three common stations between all of these were Mass have at woodmore street or broadway that general area The one at capital square and then one at thorn dyke field at the bikeway, which would be very close to ale life When it came to the polling, we had a bit more More support for the option two, which i'll get to the map again in just a moment Option three and sort of the so it was between option two and option one and we tried to sort of hybridize them a little bit And then 10 of people said they didn't agree with any option and most of the people that chose that option Said that because they there weren't any proposed locations in arlington heights Or they didn't agree with the program or something along those lines So they didn't want to lose any on-street parking So this this particular map received the highest number of public votes when we actually went down I Did a morning where I went with the general manager of the blue bikes And to site these locations more precisely where should they actually go on the street or on the sidewalk? And so we had to move some things around With adjusting certain station locations What moved the ones that moved considerably are Massive at swan place or the bikeway at swan place. We had a very hard time finding a spot that was Safe from you know a traffic safety point of view had enough just geometric space for a station of that size We had a location next to the bikeway that would have worked, but um, there were some concerns about freight delivery for the businesses there The very narrowness of the street that it would make and so we Looked around for a different location and came upon the railroad the railroad lot and made a bikeway And I'll have that later on and the same thing with capital square. We had difficulty finding a location Just again being aware of the on-street parking and demand for on-street parking there We decided we we had an option on winter street, but we decided to move that away further To a location that we think that we knew had less parking demand. So those two moved more considerably than any of the others So here are the specific station locations And this one Again, we had originally had an idea one of the options option one had a town hall at the bikeway option, but the There's going to be some work done at the town hall plaza right in front of town hall On mass av and that's where we would have found a very nice location right on the sidewalk which would have worked but Because that is upcoming in the next couple of months That's simply when wouldn't work when we've had to pick it up again so we looked around we looked around a little bit and So again keeping the the stations when we looked at the sort of creating this network We try to create have stations that were near the commercial areas. So there would be lots of activity of people whether tourists or going to Businesses, you know the idea is to have a lot of turnover with the bikes And so we wanted to keep them near the commercial areas and come and near the bikeway The bikeway is very very popular when we looked at the line bike data That was I think the most popular corridor for people using the line bikes This one would be just behind The sort of near the um uncle sam statue and the railroad lot It would require the removal of a couple of parking spaces the the edge of the railroad lot to make this work I think the and for some of these the bikes could face The bikes would probably face the sidewalk so that you could take the Bikes out and just get it right onto the sidewalk and wouldn't need to go out too much into the street to to do that So That's that option and I can continue. I don't know if there are any questions or if I can I should just continue on through them You can just roll through them and then okay questions again okay This one again most of these locations because we don't have very many areas that have The sufficient sidewalk space even in parts of east arlington There's the sidewalk and then there's sort of the furnishing zone area where you have trees and you have Benches and utility poles and that kind of thing it makes it difficult to site Because we would need at least 10 or 11 or 12 feet of clear sidewalk in order to really make this work and so This one this is sort of the massive at widemore, but moved over towards Broadway so it can be very close to Broadway Plaza without being on Broadway Plaza in some of these parking spaces that are near the on Mass Ave, but Just anecdotally don't seem quite as utilized as some of the other ones that are directly in the plaza like right on Broadway And these would face again. These would face the sidewalk so they wouldn't actually have to go out into the street to either drop the bicycle or Pick up the bicycle so traffic safety was certainly one of the concerns when it came to citing these and It's possible to you know orient to the stations in such a way so that you take it away from the street This one so this is the one that was We had originally looked at capital square. We looked at a spot on winter street just off of Mass Ave. There was a no parking area, but we had some traffic safety concerns I should add that we passed all of this by the police department and also the public works department to get their Opinions and they did have concerns about that particular location. And so understanding you know trying to sort of balance between taking Some parking spaces for the bike chair stations, but trying not to take the most in-demand ones We were aware that these these angled spaces over by grafting street Were not as utilized as some of the ones directly in capital square And so these this this is something where This is showing sort of taking up four parking spaces But we believe we could orient this so that it could only Only three of them would need to be taken out An alternative might be across the street or the parallel spaces But ideally because this is further away from the travel area from the driving area This is preferred from the blue bikes point of view This one is across on Broadway across from the East Cambridge Savings Bank. So this is close very close to north union This one is again right on the street there is a The only concern here is that there's a tree But I believe it's an ash tree and so it wouldn't sort of drop any sap or knots or that kind of thing onto the bike chair station And since it's only one tree it shouldn't be too affected by uh, you know lack of sunlight It's also possible this could be across the street, but since It'd be about again another two parking spaces since the parallel parking space is about 20 feet wide or 20 feet long You'd have to affect at least two of them in order to make this work And then there are a few these other two or ones as I said in the beginning are Uh need a little bit further review this one This one is the closest one to ale wife on the Minuteman bikeway. Um, there is a There is this path that goes just off of the bikeway You can see the line of the Minuteman bikeway and the yellow center lines there And so this is a path that's just off Uh, the bikeway, um, that would work very well. I think we again, we don't need to put down any additional hardscape here The issue is that because this is property maintained or owned by the MBTA We would need to get their approval in order to make this happen Um, we need to speak to the real estate division There is another possible option that's There is some property that the town owns kind of in between The bikeway and magnolia field That we would need we'd still need to scope out and do a field review Um, but that might be sort of a way around Needing to get MBTA approval Uh, we're not sure exactly how long that would take but uh, blue bikes is also looking into that as well And then the last one I have linwood street at the Minuteman bikeway Uh, there was some concern from the police and public works about They're narrowing the street to about 18 feet here And I guess there there's also some on-street parking activity that happens due to the the park and also to the field That's right next to here another option In order to make this work would be to put a country pad Sort of behind the sidewalk There are some trees there that we would need to Look at avoiding But it would need to be a very it would need to be fairly large because we're looking at at least a 32 foot by 6 foot space That would need to be created by this um But again, this was um, this was one of the options Or this was the option to this was the location that was um, one of the most popular Uh, one of the most popular options So this is one that we'd still we'd like to work on a little bit more before we can There go move ahead with it Um, and so that is my presentation. I'm happy to take any questions about the um, by any of these locations I believe that I believe in terms of the number of parking spaces it would probably be around 10 or 11 I can count them up to be exactly that would be removed through through this um These on-street stations in particular Um, but again, Troy. I believe Troy here is also if there are any blue bike specific questions All right, and mr. Chaplin if you want to see promote Troy if he's available Yep, I did I did do that Okay Thank you All right, miss mine um I want to thank everybody for all the hard work that's gone into this We'll continue. Um, so I'd like to make a motion to move um The bike stations at railroad bought at Minuteman bikeway at math at the Broadway at math that Add the grafting street and that's Broadway Thank you, and mr. Corsi Thank you, mr. Chair. I'll second the motion. I do have a couple of questions Um, so I want to thank mr. Ames. That's for the comprehensive presentation. Um Couple questions just on the third of a mile difference, I know It's public to spread it out more if motivator of blue bike trees And I am a little turned about everything being I guess now the one dock Um to the west of plus street being in the railroad, but wondering As you look at this if if there's any way of considering Going beyond the one third of a mile Even on a pilot basis to see if there's enough interest because it just seems We're we're locked in on the Cambridge border in terms of where our first Dock is going to go and it just with only stations. It doesn't get you that far So I'm just curious if they're You know the communities If if exceptions can be made to try to spread it out a little bit I will I'll first say and then I'll think I'll probably pass it to Troy, but um Some with some of these distances are uh a little bit further as it as it turns out when I when I looked at this again and sent it to Dominic Chabrone who was at the last meeting the one at Thorndike field and the bike way is probably more like a fourth to or half a mile to the one at Grafton and Mass Ave. That's it's a bit farther than You know typically or what we would be looking for But something that they also look at is sort of these sister stations to make sure that there's at least one that's nearby This is partly due for rebalancing and partly so that if somebody Has a bike and they try to bring it to a dock and that Dock is full that they can bring it to one that's nearby and they could walk back to it in about five minutes or so five to seven minutes but there are I guess there are a number of sort of Operational reasons why keeping the densities tight like this Are as they are and I'll let Troy talk to that Good evening. Mr. Chairman members of the board. Thank you for having me Daniel that was very well said. I think there are a lot of operational considerations Namely the fact that the stations aren't that large. They're only 11 dock stations. So having sister stations does in fact help Radibility and allow people to dock when stations are full And also gives a lot of continuity to the system, right? So then you're now working in in congruence with the other municipalities that are involved in blue bikes And I think it helps again the general radability and user experience When you start talking about spreading stations out It does add a level of complexity for for rebalancing to Daniel's point and it also It's it's it's just problematic In its entirety because now things are in isolation and most of blue bikes are our round trip or excuse me are not round trips so for the fact of people taking trips from point a to point b rarely do they actually like Return back to the original station, right? So again having that that density is is very important Okay. No, thank you. And I appreciate that I think as we look at the map and I think it's a great program but as we look at the map at half the town doesn't have a docking station and so It would be great to have other stations as you go up the at the bike way And I don't know if that's a function if this is very successful And I don't think then maybe there can be an amendment to add more stations or docking stations If if there's demand for it in the public is is responsive to that But it just puts us in a situation when you look at the map and it just feels limiting to a lot of people that may be interested Mr. Of course, I think it's a really great point and and I'll I'll just add quickly that Just starting out only with six stations I think again, it's important to have that continuity with the rest of the system So to your point, I think In terms of expansion then I think that's where you start seeing the infill and it can be a slow process Right, it could be a potentially a station or two added Over the course of a few years, right? So where you're you're infilling and getting much more density throughout the entire town Mr. Chaplain, did you have a comment that? Yeah, you know, I just wanted to add and certainly Troy can correct me if I'm wrong, but Um, I think you know the perspective I'm trying to have is I don't believe Uh, you know, Boston's obviously much larger than us but Boston didn't have border to border coverage or Cambridge or Somerville and I I think Brookline started with maybe even only one or two stations So I I think it does feel like the type of thing that can grow from success. So Um, yeah, I mean I would love to see it on the other side of town too But I I think if we can if we can demonstrate success and grow from there We might we think that would put us in position to follow how the network has grown in other communities Absolutely well said All right, mr. answers Yeah, and just one other thing I'll mention is that um when we were pursuing grant funding for This project and for blue bike stations. We actually applied for a secondary grant. Um Called community connections through the metropolitan planning organization and we actually received the same amount of funding about $80,000 through that program but the Uh funding is not available until I believe 2021 or 2022 so If the program proves successful over the next couple of years We may actually have another funding source or another grant funding source that we could draw from um in order to Expand, you know add several more stations that way. So um We haven't talked about that very much, but that is in the future Uh, at least a year away or two years away um So we we do have that around All right All right, mr. Diggins Well, that was an interesting statement there, mr. Ampsons Because that makes me think that what I would like to do is kind of align things I mean so that we can We get out to the heights being so I would like We just kind of string everything along mass af Hey, uh, and so that if we do get that grant or if the funds are released Even in 21 22 We would stand a better chance of getting out to the heights because I do share mr. Corsi's concerns um about Not getting this system out to the heights because I actually think the heights would benefit from it more Um, and I think environmentally And even for for buses it would be better if we could get people from the heights on bike Me to let's say me, you know The t or very close to the t mean in the height in in the east where I am You know, it's fairly easy for us to walk to the t Uh, and so so that's some a comment there based on your last comment But along those lines mean I I am I'm wondering what is the rationale for the stations on the station on? probably uh, I mean you can look at it You can look at it a couple different ways, right? Or is this sort of if you look at transit you look at coverage versus frequency and so looking at this Was trying to find a way to get coverage of more of east arlington So that it was around the commercial areas the commercial corridors mass av of course and broadway, but also the bike way um I also looked at it from the perspective of that side of town is uh more low income than other parts of town And so trying to look at it from an equity lens as well to make sure that there's some on broadway You know, it's near to the summer of the line That's it. Do does um What does blind data say about that area? Do we have any blind data from from use of this in that area? I think there was a fair amount of usage on broadway. I don't have it On the tip of some of my fingers, but That's fine. But your recollection is that there is such maybe there was some usage in that area. My last question Is about the station around um The government is closest to town hall. Did you consider maybe putting a station on the street? You know across from town hall By that crosswalk because that crosswalk is problematic In and I think like we had a station in the street. I know we lose some parking But it would make it it gives some some visibility for people trying to cross the street At town hall to serve two purposes and get a dock close to town hall to make it safer to cross So it's certainly possible to put it across the street from town hall and the there's I believe four parking spaces across the street there. There's three Between the crosswalk and I think it's center center street And then one that's on the other side of the crosswalk next to the citizen's bank The well the issue is we would have to put it on the side of the crosswalk that's I guess closer to academy street or closer to center street Because there wouldn't be enough space in front of the crosswalk But you would end up with similar Site distance issues if you were to put it on that side of the crosswalk to begin with Okay, so it's certainly it certainly could be done if you put it In the ones that are right in front of the barbershop on the other area But I think we were again sort of looking at it or I was looking at it as Those spaces would be more in demand. So can we Locate it in a place that's still a good location, but try to Not take the total to take the most in demand parking spots away Gotcha, I'm sure you saw I asked a question. I got a good answer. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Yes, you're welcome Thank you. Mr. Carl Thank you. Thank you very much So my understanding from reading the materials is that If we had a case where a station was on a sidewalk that blue bikes would come and Shovel it out. Although I don't think we have any here that are on Sidewalks. So I think my questions might be might be directed towards a town manager partly is Do we have specific concerns around plowing around these stations? I'm thinking specifically the Well, any of the on street on street spaces So I would punt a little bit back over Dan I think my understanding is that the ones that are on street will have to be removed because we would have those plowing concerns Sure, I can I can talk a little bit to that and then I might send it back over to try McHenry But the to get an idea of what other communities do what I understand is that Typically communities that have the blue bike stations on the sidewalks Will not will keep them on the sidewalks during over the course of the entire year so That they are operational over winter as well and blue bikes Has a team that will come out and will shovel out those stations and I believe it's whether they're on the sidewalk or they're on the on the street, but It's actually more of the community's prerogative whether or not we would want to keep if they were in the street Whether we would want to keep them in the street um, I think that it might depend on You know blue bikes certainly doesn't want their equipment to be hit by plows and We don't want that equipment to be hit by plows But in so actually the one that we're looking at here on Linwood street Was an example when I talked to the general manager where he said well, this might be a situation where you could if you're comfortable with it keep it on the street because This is a much lower traffic street. It's not like it's mass av where you know, that would be plowed very quickly and Very frequently and maybe you know more likely to risk getting hit by a plow But I'll I'll throw it over to troi to If you can give more context about other communities Yeah, I think that's well said daniel. Um, that that's pretty much belong in the short of it For for the most part any on street station does get removed. So I believe in your contract it does allow for uh removal and and for In for fee, but um, yeah, otherwise it's it's probably suggested to keep it on street if possible On ground if possible Okay, thank you. So I guess that's that's a consideration with this this sighting then That you know, we would lose service. I understand them if it's snowy, you know, I'm gonna have as much use of these stations, but You know, usually the whole winter if we had a winter like this this past one those bail any snow So that would be I guess unfortunate I guess my other question is um On the railroad lot. I cannot remember and maybe somebody else does Um I know that there's a low Um Kind of a guard rail along the bikeway Is there a cut in that guard rail right near the station so that people Taking the bikes could get right onto the bikeway from there Yes, there is there's a cut or a break in the guard rail that just across the street you can go straight to winslow towers from there perfect perfect Okay, great. Um, I think those are all my questions. Thank you And just a couple questions just one, you know from an operational standpoint on something that mr. McHenry had mentioned so if Someone is on a blue bike and they go to a station the station's full Is it I assume what they have to do is they have to keep driving? so they Go to the next one and then if that's full go to the next one Correct, mr. Chairman. There's no way or way for them to leave me there. So I guess from that standpoint the density Definitely makes sense in this situation um and then how We're talking about removing and replacing the stations. How mobile How much of an undertaking is it to remove a station? Is it, you know, a half a day job a day job? A few hours a few hours. Yep Assuming something because we sit here with our milder winters now. We're in january. It's good bike weather is it In some cities and towns is it they They see a storm coming they go in they remove the station put in storage and then Once the storm passes and clears out They'll go put it back or is it more they remove it for the month of december january february for the back in march Correct. It's it's it's it's more the latter where they're removing it for the duration of winter Okay, is that what the recommendation of blue bike is in the situation if you're going to remove it for the winter Or I think I think there's a lot of variables which you you would need to weigh The traffic area the the ability to plow the snow I think all those are obviously major considerations So it really just depends on the comfort level. I think and then Generally speaking if you were to remove stations, we would suggest probably closer to december is when we would initially pull them and then You know probably after february, you know march we can redeploy yeah Just a suggestion as we're to playing department town manager ourselves you know, I think These in our linkedin we get a lot of use for these even in the winter months So as we go in the next few months towards december if we could for the stations that have to be removed think of some Off-street locations instead of just putting away. I think that would be helpful if we can identify that all right That On a motion from miss mahan seconded by mr. D'corsi tranny hon miss mahan yes Mr. D'corsi Yes, mr. Diggins Yes, mr. Curell. Yes Mr. Hurd. Yes Thank you, and thank you mr. McHenry for helping us out Thank you Thank you. All right and next We have dan will remain with us for discussion approval final shared streets proposal And if you want to take the reins on that I will thank you very much mr. Chair Uh, let me see here Sorry about that All right, so I'm going to talk about It's sort of an update follow-up from the july 20th discussion that was An update of what was happening with shared streets and We'll talk about where we've where we've gone since then a few things are happening So We did about a week and a half ago put out some more materials for brooks avenue I'm going to show some pictures of that what it looked like and just talk briefly about some comments I receive Mary street this is Be more of an approval to actually do a pilot on mary street. I believe you received some Some correspondence from residents of the mary street area already. I'll talk briefly about that We did talk about waldo and amsdon road last time and then I'll talk about some next steps of what's coming up I don't consider this sort of a final presentation, but this is very much an ongoing project And so with the reinstallation of brooks avenue as I said about a week and a half ago In preparation for this I did send out an email to all of the residents who had commented previously on the shared streets project or Or had commented on the pilot itself Um Or it otherwise had some kind of interest in this before and then also I put out about 150 or 200 flyers along all of the Egerton malrose milton Varnum and brooks avenue that were within this specific area It was quite a bit of quite a bit of hard work, but um I went out with the public works department and again this is reflecting some changes some lessons that we learned from the pilot Some things that we wanted to try which I talked about at the last meeting moving on So this is how we set up the intersection as we discussed at the last meeting we moved the sort of start of this to brooks avenue on chandler street And so this is we had to kind of shimmy in this of the large sign here because there's somebody who's parked across the street here, but This I have heard a bit of a concern about throwing more traffic up chandler street because of this and so You can see there are some unintended consequences As we we look at how we divert the traffic around at the other locations I believe this is at egerton You know much sort of lighter touch as opposed to trying to divert traffic immediately around it trying to focus on Where is the traffic coming from the most of the time? And so this is sort of the soft gateway that I had talked about at the previous meeting And similarly at varnum street. We're trying to kind of narrow up the the Roadway so that it's not as easy for somebody to turn around turn into the roadway very very quickly since that's one of the most common type of Turning that you would get in there if you were turning right and then Trying out some of these traffic trees traffic calming to kind of narrow the street using the the horizontal methods that We discussed at the last meeting in this case This is sort of trying to narrow it into a choke point where somebody will have to slow down Especially if somebody is on coming from the other side, but trying to avoid keeping trying to avoid Creating an unsafe situation So that it is still wide enough for somebody For two cars to get by since this is a two-way street And this is on brooks and then again brooks at melrose sort of creating more of a chicane Which is another way of sort of shifting the traffic so somebody can't zoom down And a straight away, you know, especially if there are no cars parked here. There is some house construction that's going on especially at brooks and chandler and they believe brooks at aggreton Which made this a little bit challenging to site these and serve contractor vehicles and construction vehicles parked on the street That the parking issues have come up as a concern Because some of those vehicles are also parked very close to the intersections and if you are walking walking across the street It's hard to see So those are some of the comments that i've gotten back, but i haven't heard of any Um Major traffic safety complaints that come along with this I was away last week, so i'm going to go out this week and take another look and see how things are going with this part of that is also asking the police department to take some more data collection like they did in the original pilot on the Number of vehicles that are going down here and the speed of the vehicles and seeing if any of that has been significantly affected by these changes Moving on to mary street the So for the community engagement for this you've already seen some of this as i mentioned earlier I emailed all the residents that have nominated mary street They got organized and i had a discussion over zoom with them on august 6th And they got together and got in 39 emails with 37 in support of the project Many of them from mary street many of them from the neighborhood as well And then also excuse me for petition signatures for it I believe you've seen you've seen that that information. Um, but I can bring it up as well if we need to So when I had the discussion on august 6th This I had I actually had or had created a concept for this of how it might work and where these gateways might be What kind of traffic calming we could do? Again, there's potential connections to do something more larger as a network in the future But there was so I put in this note says to be refined as resident input because there was a question about whether the gateway sort of locations would make sense The original idea that I had sort of is in this map showing the major areas with the large stars Basically if you know taking mary street from end to end and having the major gateways at Each of the extreme ends and then having the smaller mitre gateways Within the middle of it and then having various traffic calming elements in between there Which a couple of ideas again, this is similar very similar to what I was looking at or what I showed you on Brooks Avenue through the choke point where people would you have to slow down to move through here And then it would end There would be no parking here But this would be something that would be there all the time as opposed to having parking cars that are there that are sometimes there and sometimes not and then Something that has been discussed I think previously public works had looked into putting in things like many traffic circles I've heard Complaints that there are This may be a four-way stop, but sometimes drivers don't pay attention to the stop sign and they continue on through when they shouldn't and Many traffic circles are actually a type of traffic calming that would replace things like four-way stops because The signage itself doesn't do as much as actually having that physical infrastructure In the street that forces people to go around it and again prevents them from Going straight down the street And sort of seeing that van vanishing point at the end where they can just drive straight towards And so these again, these are ideas I'm sorry these are ideas to be refined with resident input, but these are the this is the general direction that we'd like to go And i'll talk in the next steps in a moment about Sort of how we'll get there The I did reach out to residents of walderwood and amston street continued After continued discussion over email Apparently there's some difficulty with them getting my email originally So I felt to work with them on outreach to get support for that. There is there is interest in it But at this time, I don't have sort of a list of of emails or a list of written support like I have for mary street So for the next steps, I believe that there is enough support for the mary street pilot to start with that Again, we're finding the concept and the concept and the type of traffic calming type of interventions Applying we We are planning to apply for the mass dot shared streets and spaces grant which provides funding for very this exact type of project And through that we could we could ask for materials That are beyond sort of cones and sandwich wards of things that we could Try out over the course of several weeks or a couple of months I don't have a specific timeline, but certainly before the winter time Comes in which case we'd probably have to take most of this out, but we would learn from it over the course of those months Again to work with the residents to for support of the walderwood and amston street And monitoring berks avenue over the next several weeks as I know that the board approved going Having that go through I guess mid september now whenever the beginning of school is And to come back to the board with what our findings are at that point And that's the end of my presentation. So i'm happy to take any questions sorry Mr. Carl for any questions or motions I'd like to move approval And No, thank you for the work. I mean we did get all of the testimony from from folks on on mary street That was great to read and I look forward to hearing what we get from You know wild audience All right, thank you. Mr. Diggins I'll second it and um, I have no questions. I'm interested in seeing, you know, how the street is used when things calm down so I'm interested in the results. So thank you very much for the great presentation tan Thank you And miss mahan Thank you. I'm also in support of this. I thought I don't have any questions. All right. Yeah, mr. Corsi Yeah, thank you almost all in support of this and no questions And I also support. I think mary street is a perfect location for the next step of this project and I look forward to seeing the results All right. So we have a motion by mr. Currow seconded by mr. Diggins attorney. I'm Miss mahan Yeah Mr. DeCorsi Yes Mr. Diggins Yes Mr. Currow Yes Mr. Herd Yes unanimous vote Yeah Moving on Is john leone with us Yeah, I saw his name. Yes So I think what I'm going to do since we There's one article that requires someone else to be in the discussion is going to bump up Um, I remember 18 discussion of the 2024 special time meeting if you can bring up mr. Leoni Johnny with us you might not have been expecting it, but um I'll do him the courtesy if he's there Johnny there Immuted john Hey, am I working? Yep Yeah, thank you Try to spare you a couple of our articles all right, so We have the agenda this month at the request of a few town meeting members and Some of the board members. They want to just get a little more clarity as to What it's going to look like, you know, what our thoughts are for a fall special town meeting um what it's going to look like structurally and um You know, we can kind of start the planning process for that so, um, mr. Leoni, did you want to Say anything in regards to what your thoughts are going forward before I go down the list of the board for comments Yeah, um, I've been talking to adam Mr. Jappolin we have been a preliminary discussions with the town of lexington about maybe Adopting their system or Being able to use fast parts of it. We're going to have a further discussion with them tomorrow um believe in the afternoon And see if what they're willing to work with us I'll let adam speak to that a little more. He's had some preliminary discussions um If that would be a virtual town meeting, um Even though we had a lot of fun in june On the town meeting. I'm not sure we want to go to another Outside town meeting especially in the fall be too cold So i'm not sure that's going to work for us At all in that time of the year so we'd have to go with a virtual of some sort As far as the meeting itself My question is Would we be exploring a full 80 item warrant or a more Paired down warrant or what was The board's thought on that All right. Yeah, mr. Jappolin. Did you have anything to add? I would add two things one. Um The moderator is right on we're meeting with The folks from lexington tomorrow. We're meeting with a member of their select board their town moderator town manager and I think a few other folks from their team To learn about the program that they wrote to help them manage a remote town meeting I believe it was actually written by one of their select board members. So I know he is very willing to share with us. I think tomorrow we're going to figure out What sharing means? Uh, whether or not there's a fee associated with it But um, I think we want to learn from them about process technology Resources that go go behind it and I think they're they're very willing to help us to make it happen Um from an article point of view, I certainly can't speak for the board On the broad range of articles but from a financial perspective Given the positive news that came out of the state house, uh the week before last I think we can keep financial articles to a minimum. So that should at least shave Some portion off the length of a warrant You know from the normal length we would be looking at all right I will turn to the board for any comments. Um, Mr. Corsi Thank you, mr. Chair. Um, thank you, mr. Leoni for joining us tonight. I I'm happy to have this discussion because I think it's important that we do have a fall town meeting and I Curiously with the other board members Think about what would be on the war and I mean, I think at a minimum we've we've got to go to Seek input from the people that we asked Back in the spring to defer their with their warrant articles in terms of what they would Be willing to do and take that into account Um in in scheduling a town meeting. I think it makes perfect sense to have a virtual town meeting Um, and you know, there'll be timing issues in terms of whether October or November is the appropriate time but um, I um, I think it's important to have this discussion and to start planning All right, and mr. Diggins Also, you know that I've been thinking about this a lot and I think you know As far as how much we do we will we'll do as much as the town meeting members want to do uh, and and And I think the timing is pretty locked in Because there's a lot of preparation that goes on before this mean first off We have to be here a lot of the articles now clearly if we cut down on the articles Then we have to have less hearing time, but let's let town meeting members decide Or the proponents of the articles decide what it is that we will hear During the town meeting So I'm thinking the best time to start it will be that Monday after the election that would be november 10th It and that would give us two weeks before Thanksgiving. So that would be four four obsessions It maybe we can get through it all then probably not but then we would come back in the Wednesday after Thanksgiving In and and then we'll go for as long as people want And I don't think they'll want to go on too much longer. Hey, but maybe another two sessions or so and and so That would be the timing for me and and and I think this would be Something that we would learn from because we're gonna have to do it again in the spring mean I It's very likely. I mean, we're not going to be meeting, you know with everyone in person in the springtime. So I am all for this and and Lexington's done it. We can do it and we'll need to have time for practice That's another reason too that we won't do it until or I don't think we can do it until November because we get the technology. Let's say we get technology in place me by the beginning of october My understanding is that it takes some training mean and so let's allow me plenty of time for training so that people are really comfortable with technology in and so That's all. Thank you Thank you, mr. Chair and thank you, mr. Moderator I'll leave it to the powers that be that are continuing and going to have contact with lexington from Materials I got from lexington. It seemed like the main point is and if you all could find out and include that back in your report that having the person or the person with the technological experience That creates and hosts Platform that seemed to be sort of the big thing That allowed them to do that and I don't know if that's something If it's when they say platform It obviously must be some piece of hardware and so To me that seemed to be the big thing that allowed them to do it and then if I could ask through the chair am I correct that I agree with my colleagues ask the proponents if they want to go ahead In october november. I want to wait for the spring In my my two questions are am I correct with the warrant articles that we tabled if the proponents Say they would like to go on the special fall town meeting Do we have to have another warrant article hearing for them? Or can the original one we had back in the spring and then my can count and then my second question would be am I correct that In terms of setting the parameters for what a special town meeting will look like in the fall We still do we open the we can't open the warrant and say This is just for those table articles. We'd have to open it for a certain amount of time And if somebody else put in a warrant article, then we would have to do what we did with the table articles, which is have Um Open and closing of a warrant Schedule a warrant article here here into the select board and then town meeting so those are my two questions And I know I should have asked them or succinctly turning on I just want to make sure I understand both questions. One of my understand is um that The issue is if we open a special town meeting warrant for the purpose of bringing back Putting forth the articles that were sort of suspended if you will From 2020 town meeting. Do we have to allow For other folks to submit new articles? I think the answer that it's probably yes Although the special town meeting threshold is a little bit higher in terms of signatures And um, I'm sorry. What was the first question? the first question was um Do we have to start the process all over for the warrant articles that we tabled or can we count the warrant article hearings That we had back in february march Uh, which is a lot That's an excellent question. Thank you. Um, I think with respect to the board as the board may recall There is no statutory requirement for you to have any hearings whatsoever What I would suggest is that I would submit the votes and comments Of all previously held articles For the board to consider and review And if the board decided that it wanted to re-hear any articles or change anything or just accept those votes Then you'd basically be all set It's a little bit more complicated for the um, arb because they have to follow a A statutory process To notice their hearing again But again, there's nothing that would prevent them from basically saying, you know, we're incorporating into the record of this Fresh new hearing the proceed the prior procedure. So Short answer to it is You can incorporate your prior proceedings. You could decide as the select board that that's enough discourse and discussion on These articles or you could have more process if you so chose Okay, thank you. Um I'm definitely being guided by my colleagues Preference on that. I think we should take them as a case by case basis with I think the majority of them we Probably won't necessarily have to have rewarrant comical hearing but if Maybe just have the caveat that if any member of the board Is so inclined to have a second warrant article hearing just to Communicate with the chair attorney hind And the town manager and then go from there, but that's just my off the top of my head idea, thank you very much All right. Yeah, mr. Carl Thank you very much. Yes. I think we do have to go forward. Um this this fall and the world changed so much just in the last few months since So much just in the last few months since we were planning The annual and we're sitting here right now and the first of our two major Parties is having their entire convention virtual, so I think we can pull off The special town meeting My inclination Would be as far as this this whole question of how we handle the warrant. I mean we had made a promise to proponents that we would Um resubmit them But the thing that is we had a number of those articles some of them We voted no action on technical grounds. Some of them we voted no action on substantive grounds some of them we voted positive action and then Um, some of the situations have changed and some of the proponents May have another action that they would like to pursue or not pursue at at all. I mean Um, I think for example the fossil fuel I know that that a lot of the situation around that has has changed quite a bit Since since we had our hearings My inclination would be that we would reach out to the proponents of any of the citizen warrant articles and ask them a Do you wish to have your article appear on on the warrant again because in some of these situations? I mean we we clearly voted no action on substantive grounds, so they might not wish Might not want to go through the exercise again If you wish to re resubmit it you wish to resubmit New language which we could submit on their behalf not not implying any support Of of that that language. I think we'd have to go through the whole hearing process on those again Or do you wish to withdraw and just not not resubmit? Um at all that would be my inclination my inclination as far as the the warrant though would be to keep it open I mean we've had situations for a special time meetings We've only had the warrant open for a day Which which really narrows that window for something unexpected to come in and be added on onto it So if you ask me what my preference would be that would be my preference to reach out to the proponents Do you wish to resubmit? Do you wish if yes, do you wish to resubmit with the exact same language as you had before? Or do you wish to Provide new language and will we hear it? And um and we go from there Yeah, and yeah, my comments are similar to what mr. Carl just said that you know, we had Made a commitment I think to the proponents of the warrant articles for the annual time meeting that we were going to hear the articles in the fall, however That we had whatever That meeting had to look like and you know, there are certain I think we should allow them to reach out to them individually allow them to either resubmit If they have modifications, they should be free to do so and if they want to withdraw they can do and they can do that as well So I think that would be my inclination as well And you know, I think when we first did this we had Kind of a little bit of faint hope that come fall we could have a special time meeting in the manner that we generally could but that Has gone by the wayside. So he looks like you know, However, we have to figure out we have to do it and we have to do it virtually So, you know, I look forward to the discussions between our town staff and town of lexington Really, they have a more talented select board that could pull this off, but you know Imitation The best form Um, so I guess sir. Yes Yeah, I just want to point out. I think there were only 13 Citizen articles submitted last spring And I believe six five or six of them were by one individual So there's not a lot of citizen articles That we are going to be bringing back But you know, they obviously have the right to do so Um before you set the date take into account that There's going to be a learning curve for myself, um, mr. Chapter lane staff Um lexington had between eight and 12 town employees behind the scene Running the virtual town meeting. So we're going to have to line up staff to do that. We're going to have to train them I'm going to have to get trained and then each town, um each precinct in lexington, they have nine precincts Each precinct had a one night two hour training session on how to do town meeting So we Project into those time frames The training that's going to be necessary for town meeting members and our staff It's the beginning of october Might be about right. I wouldn't want to go any earlier than that. So mr. Diggum's timeframe of early november would be about I think the earliest we could do it And have a successful meeting yeah So my question to the board that I was going to pose we have a suggestion for a november 10th meeting Do we want to take motion on an november 10th meeting at this point or would With the understanding I think there's general consensus here that we're going to have meeting around this time do we want to Have our town staff speak with the members of lexington get an idea what the layout looks like for that And then set the meeting at our first meeting set the date at our first meeting in september So go to mr. Diggum's So I mean as much as I was pushing for the 10th to me I mean, I think we can have that as a soft date in mind He let's talk with people He knows staff and whatnot and find out me if that will work for them And and and then go from there. Let's get a little more information Me but have that as our our soft target and and unless something changes our mind I mean We'll come back at the next meeting and set it in stone Yeah, and Can you not have approval from mr. Carl? Yeah Yeah, no, I was just gonna say I would agree with uh, mr. Diggum's let let's have it as a soft target But but let's find out what we what we find out from lexington about the the level of effort and and um You know also, I think typically what we would want to do I think is is come back and have the The vote for the the date of the town meeting as well as the The vote for when we open and close the warrant be before us as You know two separate votes and all prepared so That's kind of my feeling on that And I did want to clarify one thing too that what I was suggesting on on uh, Submission of warrant articles if if we were so inclined I was suggesting that the board will resubmit on behalf of the proponents I think we were all understanding of that. Yes, that's that was a plan with no signature requirement Yep Ms. Mahan is that work will No, I'm disregard me. Thank you. Yeah, that I understand now. Thank you so much. Yep Okay, I agree. I think we should wait until the september meeting get a report back. Thank you, mr. Chair All right, and mr. Corsi Yeah, I agree with that as well. Okay So unless I am missing anything I don't think we have any vote to be taken at this point Correct attorney. Hi Not unless the board wants to Take a specific Action or a report back. Yeah, I think we'll you know, we'll put this on the agenda for the next For the our first september meeting and then at that time we'll have a little more clarity on where we stand And then we can put some more specific information down Can I make one request? Yes That Not all town meeting members have given us email addresses If they're going to want to log on to a virtual meeting We need an email address We've been asking for it. A lot of them are reluctant to do so. I don't understand why But if they want to be part of an virtual town meeting they have to contact myself Or the clerk and give us a email address Otherwise we we can't contact them. They can't they can't play They want to they have to do it. So if you guys can somehow get that out to them That would be really appreciated Okay Thank you. Let's get that information. All right. Thank you, mr. Leon Thank y'all All right, so we are moving back up to Item number 14 on the agenda for approval letter of support for mass works grant from So I that that was actually placed as a placeholder while we were doing more research on the grant What we're hoping is that we might be able to apply for a mass works grant For the work that we're going to start planning for mass avan apple tin and that corridor in conjunction with the potential for The development that will be discussed in the next agenda item As well as the potential for the development of the hotel near that intersection I think as the board will recall the mass works grant prioritizes transportation infrastructure improvements that are adjunct to economic development or housing development Properties so this would be a perfect opportunity for it Where we are right now in the design phase. We're not quite ready to make an application But as we advance in studying that corridor and both the hotel and 1165 mass av Projects advance through their processes will be in a better position to apply and we'll come back to the board and ask for that You're not looking at any action on this right now Thank you You hear that All right, so that brings us number 15 for approval letter To mass housing regarding 1165 r mass usage avenue from attorney hind if you want to present Thank you, mr. Heard as the board will recall when a Applicant proposes the first phase Of a 40 b that receives the financing and work here. They have to obtain a project eligibility And site approval from mass housing this draft letter before you attempts to encapsulate what I understand Is the board's overall sort of perspective? With respect to the proposal 1165 r mass av the board's initial view with respect to Eligibility and site approval is sort of a 500 foot view Given the timing restrictions that we're under as well as some of the operational difficulties of In cova 19 what I've sort of developed again is A letter that would be accompanied by any recommendations that the beta group Would provide for mass for mass housing with respect to things to look at for the applicant With an eye to just sort of informing that process You have the option to support Oppose or Basically comment on in a little bit more of a nuanced way So after An initial sort of draft this is sort of quick forth to you As a way of trying to encapsulate Some of the pros and cons Of the project the way I understand them from the board's perspective Obviously since the board can't sort of discuss something as the group Outside of a post-debating Uncomfortable with any changes that the board wants to make or any debates the board wants to have Ultimately, I'd be looking for an approval for this Letter as a framework that then you could afford mr. Chair, uh, mr. Hurd as the chair the discretion to Tweak to make sure it fits perfectly sort of after this Discussion and that's consistent with what we've done relative to phone like face Mr. Really signed the letter on behalf of the board After some sort of final tweaks were made So I'm happy to answer any questions that I can I tried to highlight my understanding of the many factors that Are work here But I think it's really up to the board What they want the tenor of this letter to be and what subject matters they want to cover. Thank you And before I turn to the board just to go through a few items I have been in discussion with the journey home on this And just for clarification. There was a little confusion as it was posted for approval as attorney heim said You know the approval that's listed isn't the approval of the project per state But we're approving the letter that's presented to us and approving a framework for which we Are to submit our comments Um as attorney heim said as we go through You know, so we have like he said we have the ability to support the project Not support the project or just provide comments so if board members can In addition to their comments both good and bad about the project just let us know if It would be your preference to support the project not to project Not support the project or just leave it as a letter of comment and then What is he attorney heim mentioned with a unfortunately this came over the summer where we only meet A few times and so the timing on this is not ideal with when the letters do with in conjunction with the number of meetings that we have to really develop a Letter to put in front of the board that encapsulates all the board's comments to approve on So if the board is so inclined We can determine whether or not we want the letter to be support not support or Just comment letter and we we can generate all The comments of the board to add to the letter Any negatives or any positives that that want to be included in addition to what's put in front of us and if you want to if they Trust me to in attorney heim to take those comments and put them in the finalized letter Then you let us know if that's the way you want to go on this So with that i'll turn to the board. Mr. Diggins Well, I still support the project and I think the letter is a really good framework in me my my I had a big concern about the the artist me and I think That point is driven home a lot me and the the comment about Getting more affordable units some is very good me and and so I support the project I would support this framework and allow And of course, I trust you Dear chair and in town council. We need to tweak it in a way that I would be happy with in the end. That's it. Thanks All right miss bond I see where I had my comments. I will second mr. Diggins motion or letter of support Mr. Diggins spoke about the Couple of paragraphs that are in there concerning Outs community as well as affordable housing and the other reason that I'm comfortable Setting this in as a letter of support is that Um We have language in there that this is the beginning of the process And this letter of support from the select board um Is truly just from us and um the zoning board of appeals Which I think is next in the process as this goes through over goes through the normal courts Um that we're not binding them, you know, they'll have their separate hearing And pending um the results of that We'll see where we'll go we're going so it's it's the first of Two or three years that this development needs. Um, so for all those reasons, I'm in support of Thank you. All right, mr. Corsi Thank you, mr. Chairman. Um I just want to do we had a couple different versions that Um attorney hind had sent out. I think what we're discussing now is Is a letter that while is supportive of number of things regarding affordable housing raises concerns as well so Is it that the letter of comment that has both the positives and the the concerns in it that were that's before us right now So it it's a letter of comment that attorney hind had sent out But I can mr. Dickens can correct me if i'm wrong, but I think what What we're doing is because of the time constraint is having a discussion as to what should be in the final letter Both any additional concerns any additional positives? And then ultimately whether or not we as a board want to send the letter along as a letter of support So I believe what the motion is to add language similar to you know, what was initially proposed that says We as a board support the project and then take a vote on that Okay, with with the concerns that attorney hind mentioned regarding the the oddest Yep, so any concerns or or positives that the board member has even addition to what Was in the letter before us will add Into the final letter Okay, I I think the letter captures that the positives and as well as the concerns so I can support that I Have a concern as to timing. Um, and I will we're going to decide when our next meeting is uh later tonight And I note that mass housing is is expecting a letter from us on September 7th, which I think really will be September 8th because September 7th is labor day. Um, so While I can support what what's in here I I'd almost feel better if there was a few more weeks to hear More input and in particular there's some Other boards in town the ARB for example is discussing this tonight. We don't have the benefit of their comments or any other comments from Town boards or or agency. So while I can get behind What what's here? I I'd like to to Have the opportunity maybe to have a further vote if we have a meeting on time If not authorize you mr. Chair to to to to send the letter based on the comments we had tonight I wouldn't want to send the letter tomorrow. I guess that's my point. I think we should wait um A little bit more time before that goes out yeah And terehan do you have any Comments on mr. Morris these comments No, so the the the planning director sort of coordinating the public comments on this I know something on public. I'm sorry committee comments on this So she's asked for them by august 30th, but mr. Of course, he's correct that the um Mass housing will receive comments until uh, I believe the date was september 7th and that is labor day So practically speaking september 8th So if the board has another meeting it certainly can um You know consider additional information um But if the board is comfortable Expressing its overall view. Um, and we're more Adjusting what's found I think we whatever the board decides to do We can work that piece of it out. I guess an obvious question to have would be for this limited matter Would it be the board prefer to schedule a meeting before august 31st? Um, mr. Of course, is that in line with what you'd prefer on this? Or before september 7th. I mean, I I'm looking to schedule more meetings for everybody, but I think um, I I think we have The workings of of where we are as a board. We haven't heard yet from from you and mr. Currie yet, but um I think it would be nice to have one more look at the letter Especially where there is there's time to get it into mass housing and and maybe there are some things that Can be addressed either from the public or or from the Proponent of the project too if there are things that they You know based on what they're hearing that they'd like to to get back to us on in terms of what what may or may not go into a letter So attorney heim can we Go past the dates set by the planning department To get our comments in if they do on the 7th Um, I think that the nuance answer that is yes, if you the comments are due on The seventh comments are due on the 7th And if the I guess I just communicate to the planning director the board would like, you know to have further input To cultivate its letter because the board is ultimately The entity that is going to be The way I understand it is that from their Smart growth criteria One of the things they consider is whether or not there's support from the chief executive body of the town, which is you Um, so if you support it it favors their score card. You don't support it it's you know one sort of Not that they don't have in favor of getting Eligibility and sight approval so From that perspective if the board thinks it would be useful to be making its ultimate determination after hearing more information But I think we can advise the planning director Seattle's got his hand up. Yep. That's my that's my opinion. Yeah, mr. Chaplin Just two thoughts. Um So if i'm understanding right The planning director's request is for departments to have their comments submitted by august 30 And then our mass housing deadline is september 7th Given the prior conversation We just had about town meeting and the need to pick a date and open the warrant for town meeting and give enough time for hearing And the odd falling of labor day this year on september 7th It's sounding like a meeting on august 31st is I mean, I don't I don't want to tell the board what to do in that regard But it sounds like the first meeting of september maybe should end up being on august 31st if that makes sense um, so just Food for thought in how we could process this Uh, and I would also add that julia myrack Is asking for an opportunity to address the board Again her in the comments if you if the board so chooses to hear from her Yeah, I didn't I didn't want to be the chair that set the precedent for two august meetings, but giving the It could be it looks big based on where we are and To make for a little more cleanliness that you know, we'll address this a couple items down, but it's probably Best to set our next meeting on august 31st. And that's where it really would fall in the cycle Anyways, and then with that You know, we could have a finalized letter For the 31st attorney. I have to apologize. It looks like I I misspoke it looks like the deadline for comments to the planning directors august 31st Which makes sense because that's a monday It wouldn't make any sense for the comment deadline to be the 30th, which is a sunday I don't think that necessarily materially changes anything for the board because The board would have the benefit of whatever was received Sorry We could talk to jenny tomorrow and To the departments that are tasked with responding and based on everything we discussed to see if they could have their Comments in by the thursday prior, which I guess would be what 30 27th um You know, it's a few days It might be possible if not, you know to get some if not all a few days in advance for the board's review before the 31st okay All right, so I'll go to mr. Karo and then I will Turn to miss mirek Yeah, thank you. Yeah, I I would like us to be able to come back and incorporate anything else that comes up In general, I think that this letter You know captures things Pretty well as it is You know, it's predominant The preponderance of what's in here is very positive towards the proposal. I think it reflects a lot of our discussion from the last Last hearing I I wouldn't even mind if we specifically stated within the letter that that that This has been a cooperative Uh endeavor On the flip side though, I think it you know, we do have an obligation to represent Some of the concerns that have been raised by our constituents and I think that there are really Three types of concerns that I've heard most often. I suspect this is part of the case for most of us You know, one is the the loss of creative studio space and and A sustainable, you know, energy business that were that was in there. So the loss of commercial and and studio space One is the mix of affordability on the project. I think we've heard that a lot and and then from some people we I think we've heard about the You know, while we know that there's a lot of historic reuse within the proposal As a whole there is still the loss of the the oldest building on the on the site. So I think just making sure that that we're Representing what we have heard from our constituents within the letter, which I think mr. Heim has done a good job of Of capturing here You know, I'm pretty comfortable with with the way the letter Is constructed now, but I would prefer to have an opportunity for us to come back with any additional To incorporate any additional comments if there's any Anything new that that that is brought to bear Yeah, I agree with that. I think being able to come back um With a finalized letter is certainly better than just asking me to in attorney heim to to uh, you know Put together comments as we see them now, you know, I do think this is I still think this is a great project I think this fills a need in arlington um You know, we have received a lot of you know, the main criticism that we've recently received is The loss of artist space, which you know arts and culture is so important to the town It's the town's residents and we want to make sure as a town that we're We're uh supporting our local artists so whatever solutions we can come up with Either within the project or outside of the project. I think it's you know Between town administration and this board. It's our duty to do so I had spoken briefly to the town manager today about the potential of setting up Some sort of a order commission locally That would help local artists that have been displaced either by this project or any project You know, there's a lot of change in the world right now and you know our planning department has a Has a direct line to a lot of the property owners in town and unfortunately based on the situation We live in a lot of businesses are Moving out and there's a lot of space to opening up so it could be a good resource um For local artists to find spaces to connect artists with with landlords, but that's something that would have to discuss further but With that if we can promote miss myrack to address the board Good evening everybody. Thanks for um giving us the time I'm wondering adam. Would it be possible to um also allow Our partner daniel st. Clair to be um on the call with me And be able to comment if he um so desires Yep, I'll set great. Thanks Um, first of all, thanks for your time We understand this is the beginning of a process also It's not the it's not the end and there's there's there's lots of time for things to change and Move forward We have obviously not had sufficient time to review this letter as Well as we would like to We just actually are seeing it for the first time maybe an hour or two ago. So Um, we appreciate all the positive comments that were put in there Um, the remarks regarding the conformity of the master plan the site improvements the historic property Uh preservation the millbrook, etc. Um, and we really appreciate your stating that um, we did our best to try to conform to What the town is looking for in new developments and residential developments Um, however, it appears that there are at least two issues that um, you as a board seem to have some concern about um and Are not quite consistent with what we had presented and so I think we would also like the opportunity to Have a little bit more time to respond to The letter to give you guys more information to try to work together So that um, this can be a letter of support because we feel That it's really important for the project To have a letter of support if possible as opposed to just a letter of comment And we'll do whatever we can to help Give you the information that you need in order to Supply us with the letter of support If you don't mind I'll just respond very quickly to the two issues that you brought up Um, the first one being the affordability issue Um, first and foremost, it is an affordable housing project. Um, we're obviously going through the 40 b process And all of that is state regulated um We are happy to work with the town to see if there's a way to Um increase affordability. Um, I know that Jenny rate had mentioned there may be some programs out there There may be Ways that perhaps the town could contribute and so we're more than willing to work with the town to see if it Could be Changed any way affordability um But we don't want to set expectations in this letter Promising something that we may we may not be able to deliver as far as economic feasibility So I think that's something we'd like to talk to you about Um, and the second one is the artist space I think That most of the individuals on the board here know Um, how much of support Our family has been to the artist community in Arlington as I said before we've um Owned the property for over 50 years. We've had artists in there almost that whole time We have rented to them at significantly below market rents um, and It's been our pleasure to do so but it's time for the building to Um move on to its next life And in order to do that there's a tremendous amount of Of um I'm sorry. There's a there's a tremendous amount of um Money that needs to be put into this project um We need to bring you new new utilities to the site the whole bridge has to be redone life safety life safety systems So it's it's a major. Um, it's a major project and to be able to It continue to have artist space the way it is right now Making the investment that needs to be made in order to bring these buildings Forward and let them live the next 100 years of their life It's just not economically feasible to do both and to subsidize The artists on top of the affordable housing. It's You know, it makes it it makes it almost impossible. So But we are happy to talk about that too. Um, happy to Hang up some artwork Display artwork in in the in the new building. Perhaps some sculptures outside um, we have a um Program going with the Arlington Center for the arts right now where we're doing the same thing over at work bar and we'd be happy to Continue that so We'd like to work with the town on both these issues um, and we would like the opportunity to um Spend some more time talking about it prior to your writing your letter Because as I said before it We're looking for a letter of support And we hope that what additional information we may have to give you could Perhaps um change some of the language that you use in the letter And I'll open it up daniel if you want to add anything Well, uh julia, it's hard to add anything more to that. I you know, you can uh Here in julia's words how it would be so much easier for us to just say sure We'll do whatever you guys want, but there are there are definitely limits to the Practical and financial feasibility of what we can do and this project is already really stretching us um, and you know the the guidelines that the state has and the 40 b Program are you know, not kind of squished squishy and aspirational. They are tizzled in stone and um, so Uh, you have julia and my's promise and the companies that stand behind us that we will do our best our our dead level best to Work with the town and try to refine to try to best meet these goals um, and but we want to be honest with you about you know, the the limits of that are not boundless um, and in the conversations that we've had before there there was uh Some feedback that there might be some programs and other things that we could take advantage of and we just haven't had this conversations yet so, um, we look forward to that we definitely Um, strongly seek a letter of support from all of you Um, and you have our pledge that we will work our best to try to find the right resolution on all the great points that you brought up so, um, I guess with that maybe we let you do your work and Get you back to your agenda and we look forward to having whatever ongoing discussions that we can have with you Um tomorrow the next day and and ahead of uh, whenever your next meeting occurs So we hopefully can get this done and keep the thing moving Yep All right, and so now we're gonna have this put forward forward on our meeting in two weeks from now um, given attorney himes time constraints right now If you could get and he can comment if this works for him But I would think if you could get us comments or responses within the next seven days Maybe by next monday that would work so we can incorporate it into the letter And I'll turn to attorney. I'm to see if that time frame works Of course, yep Okay, so we look for comments by say next monday without you think that would work on your time frame Sure. Yep. Just so we can finalize this Okay. All right. Thank you Thank you All right, so let me see So attorney ham will we have have a motion to Push this to our next meeting or yeah, I guess I've been looking for a motion to table until august 31st That's amenable to the board of course second Sorry and who made the motion This behind I think All right. So a motion to table this till august 31st By miss mohan seconded by Sorry, I lost it. Mr. Carol. Mr. Carol Attorney hind Miss mohan Yes Mr. Dacorsi. Yes, mr. Diggins. Yes Mr. Churro. Yes, mr. Hurd. Yes And so And that brings us To item number 16 discussion of joint goal setting meeting with the island to redevelopment board. Mr. Tom manager Thank you, mr. Chair so the board may recall it feels like a Very long time ago now that the board had a joint meeting with the redevelopment board And at that time we talked about setting a joint goal setting session Which I think we can still discuss Uh, or I think we could also discuss setting a goal setting session for this board and setting just another joint meeting With the redevelopment board to regroup after Really what has been the past seven or eight months since our last meeting and everything that's happened It's sort of realign where we see things going Again just based on the differences in the world we're living in as compared to Just a few months ago. So I'm I'm open to the board's feedback I I think at this point I would lean towards Recommending that we put a goal setting date in the books and then also offer some dates to the ARB for a joint meeting of the two bodies But happy to hear the feedback of the board of the board if they'd like to go in a different direction Um, if the board does agree, I think we should pick A goal setting session for ourselves Tonight if we can and then maybe I can work With you and get a couple dates from you to share with the redevelopment board for a joint meeting In the in the upcoming days And this is the goal setting means of meaning that we generally have in july which we didn't have this year due circumstances But I will turn to the board for comments and suggestions as to a date that would work for the goal setting meeting or time frame miss mahan Yes I guess I had sort of anticipated that the goal setting meaning in my head I was thinking what happened in september But if my colleagues want to have a third meeting in august and really just be crazy trendsetters um I would say that um, we looked to sometime in the first Three weeks of september. It doesn't have to necessarily be a monday night. We could do like a See what we've done before was a thursday night. We started at like 5 by 36 But um, since we're all be home, we don't have to worry about getting sandwiches and all that And then that way, you know town employees are there later on thursday anyway, so I'll be guided by what my colleagues think but my mind's head is For our goal setting meeting. It's a thursday sometime in september And then in terms of offering I would say two dates To the redevelopment board for joint meetings Again, it would be guided by my colleagues, but if we could find Just one week where neither one neither board is meeting that monday night anyway And then perhaps off from a second night that week Whether it's Wednesday or thursday And i'm not really sure it But i'm thinking that I'm hearing from the town manager that that should also occur in september, but maybe towards the end of september That's where I put out on the table for discussion Okay Mr. Carl I was just frantically looking through Yeah, my calendar. I mean, I I think I like mismahan's suggestions It looks like as far as monday monday's go and I know we're going to be discussing this in terms of our meetings There really are only two mondays and in september and um The 14th and the 21st But as far as our goal setting, I mean I'd be fine with any of the thursdays that our goal setting if we wanted to do it the 10th or Um But i'm in line with mismahan's thinking on this Mr. Jacorsi Thank you, mr. Chair. Yeah, I'm fine Her dates in september september 10th is fine with me and then depending on how we vote on our um Select our dates for our meetings. We can maybe select the date in September maybe early october for the Second date for the joint meeting Mr. Viggins So was it initially that we're thinking about doing goals with with um The redevelopment board that we're both going to do goals. Was that originally the intent? Yeah, I don't think we Hammered out all the details, but I think we were going to have our goal setting meeting and then have the arb join us Okay, so so there's never any thought about us both doing goal setting at the same time No, there there was but We we set that expectation when we thought We were going to be having the opportunity to begin ramping up a more town-wide discussion about housing and zoning That hasn't occurred yet. So I got it. I understand Rather than continuing continuing to let it just roll. I I feel like we need to We need to do our goal setting while resetting the conversation with the gotcha Okay, fine. Fine. I understand now. So then um in agreement with Everyone else has said so um any thursday who will do at this point being in And um, yeah, uh, I guess I'm thinking that we'll probably have our Our meeting on the 14th and the 28th and so that would lead to 21st I mean for a joint meeting. No, that's not what joe Okay, what would I 28th is young couple or someone's probably would I would generally would avoid that Yeah, okay. All right, you know, so Um, well, whatever you all want to do I'll do I can make it work being at this point. So I'm easy Okay, so I think I'm wait did everybody on the board speak and then I'll think You can make the motion that's I'm in agreement with what everyone said Okay, how about um, and I understand we're going to get to setting our Blood board meeting and an agenda item. I'm sure I'm just going to stick to the two things that I'd make a motion Please someone amended if I'm not encapsulating that that uh, september 10th at thursday Got it I didn't hear people for the first five or six. Okay. Okay, thursday september 10th at 5 30 would be the select board and town manager's goal setting meeting and that in terms Hmm What I would say and we haven't had this conversation yet, but um unless When we set our agenda it has to be changed that we offer to the redevelopment board The two dates of monday september 21st or Thursday the 24th. Is that worth for people? Yes, okay Mr. Carl for a second Second Yeah, mr. Of course see those dates work for you That's fine. Mr. Diggins Which way thank you And it's time. Andrew those days work. Yep All right, and those work for me as well. So on a motion by miss mahan second by mr. Carl attorney. Hi um, miss mahan Yes Mr. Diggins Yes, mr. Diggins mr. Of coursey Yes Mr. Carol Yes Mr. Heard Yes, sorry folks We're interchangeable Does feel late So that brings us to the next item so this shouldn't take long I talked about this briefly at the last meeting where I think you know For so we've been going through this pandemic for so many months now and initially I feel like we did a great job of Acknowledging the people that have really pushing us through this Um, and I think it I've seen this in a few locations. I think it's time for us with the board's approval to put up some sort of a banner commemorating our thanks for all the First responders the police and fire and the healthcare workers our town staff that have been amazing to this process and all our essential workers My thought was to put it To have it in a prominent location in widower park where You know, it's a busy intersection on mass av where we can display it for a reasonable period of time sort of the discretion of You know the town staff that are putting it in for the exact location that would work But I would just look to the boards to see if they would support that thoughts on to as to what it should say And if you work if the location works, so I will go to mr. Diggins first It I mean that location sounds fine to me and me certainly the a The desire to thank all the entities that you just Delineated and I fully support especially the essential workers. I mean so so I'm in favor of it I have me I accept that location. I haven't really thought about locations you know But that's fine to me Thank you So of course he Thank you, mr. Chair. Yeah, I support that as well. I think that's a good location And I think you hit had proposed language in the agenda right of my day I think was that what you were going to propose for the the language? That's what I had thought would be the For at least for discussion and then if there was any additions to that um I would you know one thing Group that's not in there That I think should be is certainly, you know our town staff that have been working diligently like our health department and whatnot but um Certainly along the lines of what we have listed here Yeah, no, I support that. I'll second the uh the motion Yeah, and mr. Carl Yeah, I very much support it and I think it's very time leak because amongst those essential workers are all the teachers and and And the staff who are supporting the reopening of schools a month from now. So um, I think I Yeah, very much so and I I think that it should Stay up at least through the end of the commonwealth state of emergency. So Yep All right, and mr. Hahn um Definitely an agreement. Um, I I think you've pretty much captured it with what you have there If you want to add also in town employees. It's just um, what size is the banner? That's a lot of words So I I guess I kind of lumped You know our town employees board of health and others under essential workers. Um, but um I'll leave it to you and I think that's okay the terms of what the banner should look like um Can't draw I can just pick that toe squares. That's it But um, I I guess I would anticipate and I would leave it to the chair working with the town manager whether The town seal is on there or something else. I know Through the planning department. They put out different Sort of lawn signs and had different graphics on it But um, I would anticipate that that wording that you've uh come up with as well as at least one Piece of graphic if not to but again, I'll leave that to you mr. Mr. Chaplin. Thank you Yeah, I think I can work with town manager for the exact wording and logistically to get the banner ordered and and uh erected and uh, mr. Chaplin. Do you have anything to add or We're in a good place. No, no, I think we can uh with the board's approval We can you're up the right way to fabricate it and Place it on the site. Um, and yep, I think we we can make it work. All right All right, and so a motion by mr. Diggins seconded by mr. Corsi attorney hymn Mr. Hahn Yes Mr. Of course, yes Mr. Diggins. Yes Mr. Kuro Yes Mr. Herbert Yes All right, so that takes us. I am number 19 on the agenda discussion of future select board meetings So we have one set for august 31st So if we look at the calendar Now In So would the 14th work for the next Select board meeting Yes In what i'm thinking is our august 31st meeting is our first meeting in september And uh, september 14th is our second meeting in september Yeah, so that's how I viewed it is You know, we put that since we generally again don't have two meetings in august August 31st is our first september cycle meeting 14th would be our second So if we look to october So it would be due on october if If everyone just can give me a yes now Yes And to 19th That work Yes, sorry. I'm clicking back and forth from my calendar. So I don't get all the thumbs up I promise. I'll just say yes. Yep And If you remind me traditionally at this point, do we go into december for meetings or are we gonna You want to wait? Well, I mean it was November until we Know what we're doing with the town meeting warrant Okay. Yeah Right, so we Mr. Chair if I could just um ask that um After the meeting at lexington and as things come back and you have a conversation with the town manager It's if we can at the august 31st meeting if it's an appropriate time to set the november december ones Otherwise We'll do it. So when as soon as you can get that on the better, but I understand it may not happen until our second meeting in september Thank you. Okay All right Yeah, and i'm also thinking that we might have a more meetings in october and if we are going to do more hearings. So So All right, so In Attorney, i'm doing a motion to set these the meetings. Yeah, I would just um Put out a motion to set forth the basic needs you've outlined Yep, all right, and uh, we'll entertain the meeting to set forth future september in october meetings as discussed by Mr. Corsi Yeah, thank you, mr. Chair, so I moved that we have august 31st september 14th october 5th and october 19th as our next four regularly scheduled meetings and miss mahan second All right on a motion by mr. Corsi seconded by miss mahan attorney. I'm Miss mahan Yes, mr. Corsi. Yes mr. Diggins. Yes Mr. Curell. Yes, mr. Hurd. Yes Yeah, that's for great and that takes us to Correspondence received we have a letter from chris the ready 56 adam street regarding 339 massachusetts avenue We have a letter from robert tosi Of 14 in venice road requesting review for pedestrian safety measures at crosswalk at mystic in chestnut street The letter from rita b jones via email requesting pedestrian safety safety improvements at the crosswalk at mystic in chestnut street The letter from richard turner via email requesting pedestrian light at crosswalk at mystic in chestnut streets And a letter from rachel stark randolph street Regarding liberty and justice for all travelers Do we want to refer 21 to 23 to tag Miss town manager Yes, I think I think Move receipt of 20 and 24 Um, so what with that? And mr. Diggins, did you have a comment? Yes, I mean which which number was um stark's um miss stark's letter number 24 Hey, can I like to request that get sent attack also? Okay Yeah, because it involves me the The push buttons for the walk signals And she sent me some some studies mean in addition to that that they could be good for attack to hear Especially in a public study Okay Miss chaplain does that work to send that to tag or is that something rather sent to mr. Amstitz? you know I Think I would rather send it to mr. Amstitz. I don't want to uh frustrate mr. Diggins Goal in having to look at it. It's You know sort of the global Programming of traffic signals would seem to be something that lives more with planning and engineering than with tack but If mr. Diggins wants there to be a public discussion about it Um, I could see it occurring at tack or maybe even the sustainable transportation committee As it looks at the future of How we think about transportation policy in the community. So I um So I that was not much of an answer I guess but I uh Again, I don't want I don't want to frustrate mr. Diggins attempt It's it's it's fine. It's fine. I mean, uh, I hear you coming from a uh, and and so I think one way or another we can we can get this More of a public airing I think the sustainable transportation plan to connect arlington is a good place to have it mean and so So I'm I'm gonna go with with them what you Prefer to do me and and we'll work with that. Okay. Thank you Mr. Carl just to confirm your motion as amended Yes, I I confirm that Yep And do we have a second? Second Second by me. All right So we have a motion by mr. Carl second by mr. D'corsi attorney. Hi Is blonde Yeah, mr. D'corsi. Yes, mr. Diggins. Yes, mr. Kuro. Yes, mr. Her Yes, unanimous vote And right and with that I will take a motion to adjourn Yep, can I just ask just uh, sort of housekeeping procedural Um, could my vote when uh, my audio went out? I believe it's the only four to all vote I believe it was a gender idol 10 for the record reflect. I also vote favor. Okay. Thank you Yes, can I make a motion to adjourn? Yes And second second by mr. All right motion to adjourn by miss mahan second by mr. Carl Uh, so the record is reflecting that miss mahan joined in that in the vote On the belief appointment of a gentleman for the parks and recognition. Um And a motion to adjourn Miss mahan Yeah, the Mr. D'corsi. Yes, mr. Diggins Yes, jacquero. Yes, mr. Her. Yes Thank you all