 So we're here at the scene on so who are you? I'm Mike Nagy. I'm the vice president of global sales for Xenon Welcome to our booth today. So what are you showing here? What are you doing? What are you? What I'm doing is what I have here are some examples of products that can be Pulse that can be cured and or centered using pulsed ultraviolet light One of the advantages of using my holding this correctly One of the advantages of pulsed UV light is the ability to Center and cure materials on a whole range of substrates So you have these machines? Yes around the world already. Yes, we do our systems Right now. I'm sorry. Yeah, our systems are in use for production around the world in about 4,000 different locations and applications we Specialized in taking pulsed UV technology from Research and development kind of tools and then scaling it into production equipment. So what is this machine here? Okay? This machine right here is our latest introduction 2200 this is an inductor less a system so it delivers very high peak power And and frequency it's all User-controlled through a GUI interface store recipes on it. So it's people do their experimentation And they're developing their processes. They store it all in here so that they can always revisit it at any time These systems can be used to drive Any number of different types of lamps? So you have your lamps here? Yes, we make 16 inch lamps U-shaped lamps 60 inch long lamps Spiral lamps all of these were designed and built By xenon all of our equipment and systems are designed and built at our plant in Boston So what does it mean that when you say OEM system starting at 20,000? What is that about this this here? This piece of equipment is a prototype Benchtop R&D system That we're just introducing at this show. It will be available commercially Shortly after the first of the year. So what happens with this? What does it connect and where does it go? It's connect specifically to any well could be to any number of these lamps in this instance We have it connected here to just a small test chamber. So you can cut small samples put them in this test chamber and Pulse pulse them using this unit What we've done on this unit is introduce all the same features that are on these larger production units. It's Got a graphic user interface. It's all programmable And this system will end up Market will probably be in the What lamps you put with it and what features so do people use these and products Or is it still in a research? No all this stuff is a particular system would be aimed at research at This is a benchtop system to help people develop and prove a process in other words if they had an ink they've got a certain print on a Particular substrate they can be testing on here to find the optimum Process parameters that they need Then when they finish this that's when we would then help them scale up into a larger production scale type of equipment So that they could go To their production people or to their customers and say We have a process we have an ink it everything works Now we can also give you a solution To actually translate that to production. So where does a scene on where seen on? Positioned in the printer electronics market Are you one of the leaders in supplying solutions? We certainly are in the Pulse UV area We've been around about 50 years In addition to printed electronics. So we've been very active in bio hazard reduction using UV lamps to kill bucks using UV lamps and aseptic packaging the bonding about 95% of the Blu-ray discs in the world were manufactured on equipment that utilizes Xenon systems In the manufacturer of them so we have a long experience with bringing value to the marketplace from these products And the way people make blu-ray discs is also going to translate into the way people going to make flexible electronics, right? very similar very similar kind of challenges one of the Advantages or the advantage that pulse light brought to the blu-ray disc market is the ability to cure to deep cure Into the disc multiple layers because these discs are built up in layers and Get a good cure down deep into that disc without burning off or overheating the top layers and these the same kind of Knowledge knowledge translates into printed electronics where people are saying, okay I have something printed on TPU, you know on a on a thermoplastic or on a PET or on paper Gee, I I want to sit or this model and I want to Drive the resistivity of the product. Yeah, but I don't want to burn the paper. I don't want to shrink up the TPU I don't want to okay this particular example is nanoparticle copper ink on PI We've developed we didn't develop the ink am I holding that at the right angle there We didn't develop the ink But what we did was work with the ink manufacturer to develop the exact process to center this copper ink Roll to roll. So in other words, this goes right through in a roll. This isn't one sheet that's done It's roll fed comes right through is centered and wound up on a take-up roll So you might also be a 95% of the printer electronics of the future. We hope so We definitely hope so working hard towards that than showing a bunch of stuff Yes, and it's been a been a lot of good reception at the show so far. We've been very pleased with it a Lot of interaction on the part of ink formulators We view ink formulators as a key driver some A place at which innovation will take place in this printed electronics business So we we work with a number of them around the globe to characterize their inks to help them develop inks that can take advantage of Photonic curing that would be throughput and speed and relatively low temperature type of processing