 And to forgive people that's something spiritual like naturally we don't want to forgive because we don't forget remember Rick Ross had album Rick Ross had an album called God forgives. I don't Yeah, remember that remember the album title God forgives. I don't Hey I'm just like man, bro. That's that's sound that's sound blasphemous right there Oh, bro, uh, man Freddo I've seen so much maturity Do you realize that when Freddo and NBA young boy chose to squash their beef publicly? Yeah, a few months back I remember that. Do you realize like how many lives that saved? Yes, when they chose to do that publicly That's hard. That's stuff that Our generation we like man, why did I ruin 50 cent can't squash their beef? Why why bird man and master p can't get together and you got two brothers in a mid 20s that shows to say Hey, we're gonna put our differences to the side. You know, I mean, it's been real bloodshed behind that beef You know what I mean? So I loved that and I and I was proud of him and I hit him personally Yeah, I told him I said I said and you know how I told you I don't call people Legends or I don't idolize people no more and I was like, I think I that's exactly what I told him I said what you just did today was legendary. That's real. Let's put you in a whole different space Yeah, it's just a different world when you look and think looking at things from a spiritual child It is ego to to mean and they don't take themselves out of the flesh because when we ask people about Master P or I'm bird man. That's like well or even like mode three with Before he had passed the rest of the yellow and trapping stuff People always say that'll never happen. It was too much bloodshed that happened for them to even come back together Really? And I'm like and that's that's always the same answer. It's too much bloodshed too many people That's that's all I'm hearing is I'm forgiving exactly read the Bible They must not know how much blood was shed in the Bible and God still use those same people who were murderers You know I'm saying fall was come on man. Turn them into Paul. You know, I mean, they don't see how David was still seen as a man after God's own heart and David out. She'll mess with bad Sheba got bad Sheba's husband Merck, you know I'm saying yeah, right ahead tight. Come on man. So That's that's what happens when we apply like Human knowledge and human what we call wisdom to the spiritual realm of life Like unforgiveness is a thing that human beings. It's easy as a human to be like, nah I ain't never forgiving that person because of what they did if you're thinking in human terms, but when you apply Spiritual wisdom to the life we live it pulls the side out of you. That's not natural You know I mean and to forgive people. That's something spiritual like naturally We don't want forgive because we don't forget remember Rick Ross had an album Rick Ross had an album called God forgives. I don't Yeah, remember that remember that album title God forgives. I don't I'm just like man, bro That's that sound that sound blasphemous right there. Like we once we say that we don't forgive people. It's just like We basically say we now willing to grow no, but unforgiveness unforgiveness is something that The human generation I caught ego Unforgiveness always talk to people about that always say, you know our lives is not our own I want to say that mean like situations that we go through. It's not always because of Okay, so I was saying that you know in life and I say this all the time How I look on life I look on life like when you're born God clock you in at this job called life and you have every each person have a job to do We might not know exactly what our job is But when your job is done, he clocks you out and when I tell some people this are like But a baby who were just born and died right then and there I say that baby's job might have been to touch the nurse That witness it or whoever is around the mama the daddy who saw this person pregnant for all these nine months and Going through all these different changes that person could have been on drugs and stopped taking drugs because of that child We don't know that child finished their job. So God took that child. Wow, they touch whoever they supposed to touch and change it That's why in life I would say like live your life to the best you can because Whoever you touch might not always come to you and say, thank you so much. You change my life Yeah, but because of you Somebody who's watching your life change and now we're in a in a generation where everything is on social media being recorded Whatever you can touch so much more by Just being true to what we believe in. Yo, that that makes so much. I see why you married her, bro Yeah, well, you know, I am I did what God gave me the ability to do I was a change man and I needed to do I married in four months when I met her and we've been together for 20 years Man by faith and not by sight there you go I get it because what you just said that is so real cuz a lot of times when you try to talk to people about God They they look for like the most extreme example of something to go against what you're trying to tell them Oh, man God has a purpose for all of our lives and they're their first thing they'll say will be well What about a baby to die when they three months old? What was that and I love that response because that takes wisdom to know That God can God can indirectly bless people even babes. Yeah, even even through a non-traditional way Even through even through death. Mm-hmm Like you said the the process of their baby being born the process of their mother being pregnant Could have been a blessing to other people exactly and and we don't know who it is We need to be touching but we have a job to touch each other. Oh, yeah Somewhere or form, you know, it's Instagram made it to where everybody won They won't get their flowers right now like they won't see it They won't be like oh if I if I ever blessed you I need to see it and document it and be able to post it on my page But like you said a lot of the people who I learned that by doing music because I'm like I Got so many millions of streams on my music But I could never meet all these millions of people in life So I had to learn to be okay with hey what you choosing to put on this album D1 This is gonna reach people that you will never see in person but you should love those people and and Appreciate the fact that you got their attention span for why they listening to your music and handle that with care, bro don't be don't be Negligent with the opportunity to change their life and don't don't fumble with that opportunity to really like You know sow some seeds of wisdom and godliness into them David and Goliath was your first album it was what was uh, what? What what possessed you to do that was because your name is David and because you read up on David and not just Besheba, but the fact that he was a Rudy boy He was you know, I mean he was young and he was the one that they least expected It was more it was more that one underdog You know underdog mentality me getting into the rap game at the time everybody telling me bro You're not gonna make it trying to go against the grain bro The people that's popping in our state right now is Lil Wayne, Kevin Gates, Boosie, you know This is this is what they want to hear you trying to be so different You ain't gonna make it like that that that didn't make me change that made me go twice as hard I felt like the underdog like David so I said David and Goliath this whole industry is Goliath You heard me, but I know what my slingshot is my slingshot is this microphone I know that with this microphone when I use this for the purpose God designed it I'm gonna be able to slay this Goliath. Wow. Here we are. That's huge. I wanted to ask you about Dr. Boyce was it that Dr. Boyce? Yeah, yeah, Watkins. What what when I say that name what comes to mind? OG mentor a brother who Took me in and gave me the cosign that I was running behind so many rappers trying to get you know I was driving state-to-state trying to get ti to cosign me trying to trying to get Wayne to cosign me trying to Get ludicrous to cosign me Man, I just gave my CD out to so many people, you know I was that dude giving my CD to Jermaine Dupri BG bird man like like all these all these people right Meanwhile, Dr. Boyce Watkins never even met him in person But brother ended up hitting me up on the internet one day brother. You are a lyrical genius My D1 man, you amazing that can I interview you and and I want to put you on my platform And you know, I want to I want to turn all my people on to you me seeing somebody embrace me like that Come on. What else I'm gonna do but say man, bro You got you got my friendship. You got my loyalty, bro Thank you for this and when you got people that's cosigning you like a boys Watkins brother named the hip-hop doc He's a doctor in Baton Rouge a doctor, right? Who me and him did some work together where we would go around to different schools and I would I would write these Raps for us where we were rapping about like exercising and eating healthy and Stroke and and heart disease and just things to teach you about, you know, healthy lifestyles He was a big cosign of mine. I realized like man God really got a different path for me my cosign's the people that's willing to put their arm around me and open doors for me It's not the rappers. I grew up idolizing. You know me. So when you talk to me about legends, you know I'm not gonna be naming rappers as legends. I'm gonna name people as legends who are a Successful in what they're doing but be the way that they're doing what they're doing is what's making them legendary Cuz it's like you doing stuff that's positive for the community You doing stuff that gotta be proud of and you successful at it. That's legendary to me