 mae'n fawr i'r cwmhoi, ac yn allan o'r platform o'r mewn cyfnod i'r llwyddoch chi'n gwesti gwysig a ddwy'n ddim yn ymgyrch yn y gallu'r ysgrifennid ddweud ac y cyfnod i'r cyfnod o'r hynny ac mae'n gwneud o'r pwgiau mor hynny yn gweithio'r cyfnod o'r hynny'n gwylltau. Mae'n dweud yw'r hyn yn ymgyrch â'r ffridio, mae'n ddiw i'r mwyntau a'r hynny. dwi'n gwaith, dwi dwi ddim yn ei gwybod, mae wnaeth i yn eu hwmfwrdd trun. Fe hynny'n iawn i ddim yn rhan o fynddod bydd. Aeth ym ddechrau a Llywodraeth yn gwneud i ddim yn y ddiwedd dim, ac ymddyd i ddim yn gweithio ni'n gweithio archyddiadau. Felly hefyd... Felly wedi'i'n gweld y brwlion cy saci, ac mae'r gwneud a'r eisiau ei ddim yn y bwysig ar gyfer hyn ymddigoedd. Ond er ei wneud gwybod gyda ydy i chi ei gwyl yn rhywbpynt. sophomore yn rhywbpynt chi. Edrych chi i nhw fawr symud yn rhywbpynt. Restwallo yn yr ysgol rodiaeth, öndOWIR Cymru hyn ar Wizardiaeth a roi i chi dda chi ar y gyr Dumfrogやってis i'n gwybod produce FF aquest ychwanwent incredible coz hesaeth iddyn nhw ddim ar chi drwy gwasfrydb. Rydyn ei wneud Medd 왜 so? Lwyf yn rhan o politics arwyd Aren 70 ac yn dadol a dim bydd am heddiw. 난 bod ni eraill wedi siarلي ofain sefydli. Rydw i'n dilyn ymateb i'n deall, yn y llyfrwng. A rwy'n meddwl i'n ddiddorol ag nhw i'n meddwl o'r bwysig, a dDA I wnaethwch chi'n ymhlwch chi'n ddiddorol. Yw'n ddiddorol. Rydw i'n ddiddorol ymhlwch chi'n ddiddorol a chynghwch chi'n gylaid. Mae wedi gwneud y nifer o fe invangos yma, drwy'r ddiwrnod. Felly roeddwn i dyma i'n ddiddorol. A dwi'n gwych. Rwy'n ddim yn ei gweithio, ddim ddim yn siaradau. Felly, dwi'n ei wneud o'n ffwrdd o'r ffwrdd. Felly, dyna dwi'n ffwrdd o'n ffwrdd o'r ffwrdd. Mae rong i. Mae'n gweithio hynny, Byth Anfony Croll, hwnnw. Rwy'n rhaid i'n gwaith, James. Proses o fyf i ddim. Felly, roedd e'n ddim ddim. Rwy'n roi'n ffwrdd o'r ffwrdd o'r ffwrdd, Mae'r rhan o'r hoffi, mae'n ddim ddim ddim. Mae'n ddim. Mae'n ddim. Mae'n ddim. Nid yn maedd y nen – ddweud States Dzliadad ein ddeuugio ar y draft. Certen Cersiol, fe wnaeth eu painau yn ddweud. Mae'r ddweud o mewn rhwyng знаем a hyd qualified. Mae bunch fyrdwyd yn radish a bob brif. Roi ddim eifin fel y gwêl greddo? DST, a fe? Merry Paldo uchelid ap y rôl, ond am gweithio. Rydyn ni'n ddwyloon iawn a dyna eich hunr. Ond amser, James, ond rydyn ni'n gysylltu i wneud o ddod y ddod o'i adeithio arall, sydd wedi cael ei gŵr dda, ond rydyn ni wedi gwneud o'r adeithio arall, ond rydyn ni'n gwneud o'r adeithio arall. Rydyn ni'n gwneud, ond ni'n gwneud o'r adeithio arall, ond rydyn ni'n gwneud o'r adeithio arall. Unw, dyna. Yn mynd i'r mam, ac ydy'r dda hefyd, fel bod'ch nu'r hwn yn elfen gweithio, gan yn y mam a dda, pan fyddwch chi wedi ddillio, ac mae'r damlun o'r honno. Mae'r mam yn y superfyniad. Felly mae'r lle fydd diolch ar y seef. Onl, mae'r llwyddwn yn ddiwed tud ac mae'r lle fel yma. A i fynd, mae'r lle fydd yn ymlaen, yn amlwg ymlaen i'r amlwg. Roedd yn amlwg ymlaen i'r ddill iawn. Mae'r lwygu trafio. ac a'r bwrdd mwy oedd y gwrdd o'r cyfnwys, oherwydd 10 o 11 oes ydynt. Ac rydyn ni'n meddwl i'w gwneud hynny, rwy'n meddwl eich pethau i'r mwy, yna'r gwerth ffordd o'r hyn, mae'r ffordd yw'r cyffredig sy'n mynd, mae'r rhai'r ysgolwyr wedi'u hynny'n hollwch yn bod yn ychydig i'r gwerthu, ond rydyn ni'n meddwl o'r cyfnwys, ac rydyn ni'n meddwl i'r gwerthu, yng nghyddon y maen nhw i ddiwedd i'r teimlo i'r sefydlu o'i meddwl. Ond mae gael i'w gwneud hynny yn cael eu bair, ond mae gyrfa'n ei bod ymlaen, byddai yn gwybod yn gwybod, ond mae'r caraf yn gofio, gael eich bod yn ymddangos i eich gwybod, yn rhanio'r busau, a ddweud. Felly, rwy'n gweld ei ddweud o'r ffordd yng Ngheirwyr, ydych chi'n gweinio'r ffordd yng Ngheirwyr yn gweithio'r ffordd? Mae rhai o'r fan i'w gwneudio. Rytlefydd chi'n gwybod i chi i gweithio. Rytlefydd chi'n gweithio. Rytlefydd pen o gweithio? Rhyw gweithio, rhyw gweithio wahanol. Gweithio fel i'r fan i eich Llywodraeth, chi'n gweithio, insisted ar y dda. Rydym ni'n gweithio rhai o'r fan i gaid i'r tyni. Mae'r cynd ddraen yn ddechrau. Mae'r cynddorol. Mae'n ddweud sut mae'n gweithio. Ye! Felly'r cynddorol eich dda i ddydd. Hands up favourite stuff I'm gonna say I didn't told him once in my life but nah the there's so much you know for us and I think from an early age I was always a kid who's like into sports and I remember my mam Entwickler was jumping round the corner really dumping on busses with me to take me to a boxing gym. Myddad was in work and my dad was the first one who took me to a boxing gym because basically there's no one I dwi'n amser arall o'r mwy o'r gwaith, ond ond iawn yw'r un ffordd. Dwi'n amser o'r un ffordd a'r llunio'r llunio'r un ffordd. A'r ymddi'r brif, mae'r ymddiad drwyddon, yn gweithio. Felly mae hynny'n iawn, mae'n bwysig. Felly mae'r bwysig o'r i'r llunio'r eich bwysig. Mae'r bwysig o'r mwy o'r i'r ffordd fel yma. ac mae'r yw'r rhanau ei grannu. Mae'r rhanau o'r ymgyrch yn ddigon. Mi'n rhanau i'r dyfodol, ac yn mynd i ddweud fod yn ddweud o'r llunau. Felly, mae'n gwybod, mae'r ddweud yn bod yn lleol. Yn y rhanau o'r ddweud, mae'n ddweud o'r ddweud. Yn yr 80s, mae'n ddweud o'r ddweud o'r ddweud. Felly, mae'n ddweud. Mae'n ddweud o'r ddweud o'r ddweud o'r ddweud. ond fe wnaeth ddweud bod fe gweithio arall wrth gwaith a ddylai'r perthyniau. Mae'r pêl yn gallu'r unrhyw ymlaen i'r rhaid i'r hyn o'r gwaith i ddweud. Rwy'n mewn i gwybod. Rwy'n cael ei gweithio ar gyfer yw ymddangos? Rwy'n cael ei gweithio. Mae'n rhaid i'w mam. Mae'n cael ei chael agademaeth gweithiaeth, ond rwy'n cael ei gweithio'r gweithio ar gyfer ymddangos. Rwy'n cael ei gweithio. Ac rwy'n cael ei ddweud hynny'n ysgol er wnaeth i ddweud i'r ganident. Ac rwy'n cael i ddatblygu'r gwaith am ddiweddoli i'r dynany, ond rwy'n cael ei ddweud yn ddim yn defnyddiad oherwydd i'r dweud y byddwch eich bod ynchyn nhw'n ei dda'i'n mynd i ddim yn y cyfanat math i ddweud o'r hyn, oherwydd i chi'n gweithio'r fr olunnol i gyd. Ond cael ei ddweudio i'r ddechrau, rwy'n gweithio i'r eich ddechrau, fel yw'r rai addysg, fydd o'n byth o bryd yn gynghwyl. R hyn, oherwydd, ar y bryd, mae'n mynd cael ei f interests, mae'n gynghwyl, fel fwy o'r rai ar y bobl. Mae'n blyny o'r bhefydig. A fyddwch ei fyddwch yn gwybod i sgul, a ddiwylo i gyd wedi fod i bod unrhywb yn cael ei gilydd y hyd yn y ffun, wedi'u golygu'r rhai ffins. Mae'n sefydlu, ond hefyd i'w fach i'w plan. Mae'n ffuntio gwyldd i gynhau, Ac eich bod nhw'n ddefnyddio'n bywydol i'n cefnod i'r wylaid gyrdd. What is the jester then training hard for boxing? I remember, say, around eight or nine, my dad had some keys to the gym, he was an ex professional boxer but he was tired and he'd have keys on a Sunday. I'd go with him a few times but he'd come on a Sunday, taking me a few more cousins and I used to be your Marliff on the Sunday, Felly yn ysgol yma, ac mae'n gweithio, dwi'n ôl i'n meddwl o'r sgolwch. A yna yna 11 o'r sgolwch, rwy'n meddwl o'r 11 o'r sgolwch, ac mae'n meddwl o'r 11 o'r sgolwch, mae'n meddwl o'r sgolwch yn y bus. Ac rwy'n meddwl o'r sgolwch o'r sgolwch, mae'n meddwl o'r sgolwch. Rwyf wedi'i gweld i'r ffordd o'r ysgolwch, yn ymryd ystryg, ac rhai dyna amddir. Mae'r sport rydyn ni wedi gweld i'r meddwl. Rydyn ni'n amser mwyaf i gael i gael i gael i'r sport, dwi'n ddod o'n gwneud gweld. Rydyn ni, yw'n golygu. Rwy'n meddwl, mae'r ddiddor hwnnw, ond yw'r ddiddor i'r dad yn wneud. Mae'n ddiddor i gael i'r bod yn ymddangos. Mae'n... Mae'n grannu. Mae'n grannu i'w grannu i'r ddiddor. Felly hynny'n dipyn y gallwn ni'n ddechrau'n bobl mewn nioglu. Felly, rydyn ni'n ddim iawn iddo, a dyna'r bram. Rodd fod pob yw'r gael. Mae'n gael, rydyn ni'n dda mewn ddechrau'r llachon. Dw i wedi'n rhan fyddfa, clwn i ddim i ddim ni'n oed i ynnu. Beerdd gallai'r gymiaeth, a rydyn ni'n�� bod yn finflu ar y llachon nhw fyddfa s Erica. Rydyn ni'n ddim ni'n gael edrych i poetry a maen nhw'n fredd ar os yma. Haven't been a mean dad or not supportive dad, I think it was just like no I think you should see he's serious about it. We training everyday or anything? I think all the time really from being 11, you make sacrifices, right from not playing out with your maids, your friends and hanging around and then listen I think a lot of good comes out of that as well but I wouldn't say because of the training, I probably didn't have the childhood that a lot of er oed gan'r amgueddwyl. So arall y wneud ydych i meddwl ar y tiesie? Yn yma, ein bod gwraith a'r amgrifio. Felly felly ace I ddim yn diogelio y rhai draffau mewn cyfstafell. Rwy'n cael mynd wedi ar ei boddo! Mae genna ar lefyd nad yn rai gyntafau, ac mae'n dipyn o'r meddwl i'r cymd буду i'r arde i'n cael meddwl. Yn yw ymgrifio, mae'n bynnag i'n ddiogelio. Mae'n meddwl am gyd yn hynny'n meddwl i'n rai'n myndi drwsidol Felly, mae'n ddweud wrth gwahanol fel y dŵr, a'u fod oes ardod yn olygu ar gyfer hamp inaugurio ar yledig gwahanol. Felly mae'n ddweud bod ao oes i chi i ddweud ond rwy'n nodi'r gwahanol. Felly, mae'r rhannu bryd o'r rhodaeth ar ôl o'r mroed d皇-sword nad o'r mwynt. Yn ichethech, mae'n meddwl mewn i chi. Felly rwy'n meddwl eich gwahanol, mwy'n meddwl mewn i chi i'ch meddwl, Lleoddyn ni, oherwydd rydw i fod yn ddod y gym. Ac rwy'n credu i'r mwyaf i'r mwyaf. Rydw i'n credu, mae'n gwneud o'n ddod, ddod o'r sidaid. Gweithio i fynd i'r mwyaf. Mae'r gwrthoedd yn ddod o'r wladau a gwnau'r fwyaf. Mae'n ddod o'r fwyaf a'r wladau. Rwy'n credu i'n credu'r wladau. Mae'r wladau yn gwneud o'r myfyrwyr. Mae'n ddod o'r ddod o'r ddod o'r wladau. Llywodraeth collab ym Bwysigad, ac rydyn ni'n g reading arall arlaed. Mae rydyn ni'n estarad, mae'n meddwl, rydyn ni'n meddwl, gweithio i'n gweithio ar y bwrdd o ddechrau'r fan hyn. Ac i fi gynny bleddech chi'n gweithio. O'n amser, rydyn ni wedi bod wedi fath. Ac efallai rydyn ni ddechrau ym Mhwg. Oeddon ni fydd fel hynny, oeddon ni nhw i'n gweithio ar Ddweud, oeddech chi, a chydyn ni hefyd o'r ear. Ewch yn 14 o 15 oed. That was a wake-up call for you? That was a wake-up call, yeah. I'm mad I kept it a secret for like 20 years. I told my mum and dad it was a hit-and-run. One of my mates led it out. That was it, he was in his best man's speech or something like that. I was like fuck you know that. Killed that quiet for 20 years. So yeah, had to lie and say he was a bit of a hit-and-run but he was one of my best mates who skiddled me to be honest, but he was either names dropped the car or paid some money for an old number or something like that. wrth fynd ychydig, os gallwch chi'n gwybod yn siaraf awdraeth a'i drafn? Mae hynny'n gweithio cyfnodol yn gyfnodol, 14, 15, 16, oedd yn ymgyrchol ac mae'r tanweithio'r gwaith do'i'r gwaith o'r awdraeth neu'n gyfnodol ac mae'n amlwg hwnnw i'r gwaith bwyddol ar gyfer y lle, gan ffwrdd yma'r gweithio'n gweithio'n gwasanaeth ac mae ydyma gan eich ysgrifennu sprwp o'ch cyffredd y Dyn… Ac ein bod ychwun i'w ddym niaint fel pinion o bydd ar y爆. Ac mae yna'n meddwl arall a'r cyfeirio yn maes arfer a'r ddweud y gwiriau, ac mae'n meddyl am gweithio'r meddwl i'r pryd hon, ac mae'n meddwl ar fthas money. Ac mae'r meddwl ar hyn ac mae'n meddwl i'n meddwl g 네가 nid o'n meddwl, felly sy'n dwi'n fath fyrdio'r goll. A yna yn gweithio'r gymour o'r modd. Fy pethau wneud bod yn y gyfarfodaeth, sy'n brybeydu fel y dylau, mewn tymeliadau. Felly, ond mae'r drwsfenart, mae yn gwneud hanesaf a'n gweithio'r hyn. Rwyf wedi bod y lleib. Dyna wnaeth efallai amddol arbennig eich marwydd 17, 18 oed i bryddio? Dwi'n i fath o gyd, eich ymwyf wedi bod ni'n ysbryd, oedd meddwl i chi'n ddweud gyda gyda'r ymarfer? Edrych am ymarfer a gweithio er mwyn i'r drwg Onr eisiau ddim yn benedig i'r cyfrifysgwr hwneth Felly rhywbeth a'r cair gwn i'n bwysig Ac rydyn ni'n cael ei bod gwaith y byddai mwy o gyd Ond hefyd yn fawr honno yma yw bunch yn fawr Ond ym thyf yn yr hyn sydd yn barun o gweithio arnyn nhw digon Mae hynny'r gweithio ar y ffordd Ac rydyn ni'n bwysig o'n gweithio gael y cyfrifysgwr ond byddwn i'r cwyrdd o'r dwylo i'r bwysig, gyda'n dweud gyda'r gwyllgor a'r gweithio'r dynol, gyda'n gwyllgor yma, dyna'r rhesymau oherwydd yna'r gweithio, a'r gallwn i'n gweithio'r gweithio'r gweithio'r gweithio, ond nid yw'n gwaith yma, roeddwn i'n gweithio'r grannu, felly ei ddim yn iawn ei ddybiadau. a I'm doing wrong on the other side. I mean listen, when you're from working-class area, there's always people, you know, you're up to no good and you can get involved with. So yeah, of course like the temptation always passes your mind but it has to be strong enough for that. What was your amateur career like? Yeah, amateur career, I won a few national titles, box from a country. I never believed that I got the chances to go to the big major tournaments. Olympics Oedd ymydd i'r cyfrannu gynnwys, a'r gwahau gyda'r Gaelu Franckig dyna'r gweithio o'r Enw yn ymdweud o'r gaeledd. I ddim yn gwneud, a'r Gaelwyd yn gwneud gan gyfrannu, ac yna'r gweithio'r Gaelwyd yn dweud yn gweithio'r Gaelwyd yn 2008. Ac oedd yn cael ei wneud, er mwyn ni'n gwybod, mae gennym ni'n gwybod â'r gweithio yn chyfrannu. Mae'n gwneud, ond mae nid oedd gennym ni'n gweithio'r gaelwyd. Dyma'r diwrnod eich bod wedi'u gweld cyfnodd. Mae'r aelod yn gweld yn ymddangos effeithio. Mae yna'r aelod. Mae'r bobl. Mae'r ysgrifau a'r ysgrifau. Mae'r 19 o wath, fel yw'r amser. Mae'r aelod yn gyfnodd, ond mae'r aelod yn ymddangos hynny. Mae'r aelod yn gyfnodd! Mae'r aelod yn gyfnodd, mae'n gwybod ychydig. Mae'r aelod yma, mae'r aelod ymddangos ei gyrwyr. Mae'r aelod yma, mae'n cael cheysel y Llyfrgellion Ionnwyr. Ym Yn Clear Abertaeth, y Llyfrgellion Ionnwyr, ond mae'n ddigon odyn ni'n gwirionedd newid hynny yn ysgolwch. Nid oedd y tîm iawn i'n amser ac adonnwyr ita hynny ar y perfec stage, fydd Ionnwyr yn ym mhwy, ond mae'n cerddur o'r rhaglion. Yna yn ymwysu gyfans o fynd i yr y Llyfrgellion. Ond yma, yma wedi'n gwirionedd yn gyfandd yllenni Well, I would have gone on just before Joe Carlos, I got in front of a Pat's Out stadium, it works out bad, you go in on after the main event, so unlucky for me it works out bad, so the cleaners and the few hundred tickets, that's how it is in there. But yeah, no, it was perfect. That was the start of my program. Why? So sometimes I'll see the main event but then your cameras are gone and I don't know if you're in, but somebody is fighting. Why? I said I don't know, what does that mean? Because everything has gotta run to television. Wyyt yn cydwyr ei fod ei gwybod, ac roedd di'wch i'n gwasio'r rhan o gwael. Mae'r cyflwydd i gyd... Mae ydych chi'n gwneud gwneud yn gweithio'n gwael? Cynnydd ymwyll Certainty? Nid oedd rwyf amwielu'n cysylltu. Rydych chi eisiau'n gwysig e wedi gael. Rwyf o ychydig chi'n cael ei chyfumio'n ysgwrs a rydych chi'n dewis mi. Dw i di'ch eu bod eich bod yn i fwy bwysig hefyd? Maesafol. Neu'n credu ymgrediol. It's my favourite British fighter. Obviously Ricky, being a Mancunian, but yeah, Joe, when it was, you know what it is doing as well? You know what they say about, I'd say it's one of my heroes, I'm going to say about meeting your heroes, but with Joe Cosag it was the opposite, just a great guy and he's just like I remember, born with, not even a year ago, it was out with him and you know, you weren't having a drinking Felly mae'r ordeithas sgr分 gael. Blonwyr Ym ni'n dechrau. Roedd o'n cael ei ychydig pob yn ychydig yn y distunfa'ch. Felly mae'r ordeithas. Mae'r ordeithas y gallai, ffynomenol fel y gallai.yswyl, Llywydd. Rwy'n rhaid ddweud o'r rhaid beth o ddechrau hwn a chi'n cymryd. Mae'r ordeithas hynny, Ricky. Mae'r ordeith. Rhyw解 y gallai aysgol, ond mae'r ordeith. Roedd wedi bod yn ein cyfan. Rydw i'n ddweud, rydych chi'n rydyn ni'n bod nhw'n ddweud y gyrdd hynny. Gweithio 30,000 oedd cymryd yn ysgol yn Fagus. A'n ddweud i'n ddweud... Rydych chi'n ddweud i'n ddweud. Rydych chi'n ddweud i'n ddweud ar y fwynghau ar y cyfrifiad. Llywodol, rwy'n ddweud i'n ddweud i'n ddweud, rydych chi'n ddweud i'n ddweud i'n ddweud i fan hyn yn ei wneud. Ac mae'r gwn iawn, mae'n wneud i'r unrhyw o'r Seng. Mae'r Unrhyw o'r Seng yn gorfod, ond Rache i'r llaw ei fifarys iawn arall. Felly mae'r pamel i'r Unrhywksihau, mae'r newydd eichrwys i'r llaw. Mae'n hynny i gyd yn ôl yn yr hyn. Mae'n hyn i gyd yn ôl. Mae Newydd yn ôl yn yr ysbryd. Mae'n hynny'n adlus yma, yn ôl chi'n cyllidog wedi gyd, mae'r drefnad i'r brauc yn ein gwaith yng Nghaerffordd. Da? Maen nhw iawn iawn i wedi gweithio ddech chi'n gwybod ffair. Felly mae'n sfaith bod ychwanes? Yr arnau mae'n rhan iawn i'r dweud. Rhyw bod yn ymwyloedd eraill o'r ddweud? Mae'n dweud mae'n dweud eich ffair o'r diwyllaint? Mae'n gyfrifiadau dymlwg, mae'n dweud o'r ddweud eich ddech chi ddweud ymlawn o'r fstasig? Felly mae'n ddweud o'r ddweud eich ddweud eich ddweud eich ddweud. oes o'r r feminidol, ac oedd. A llwyo'n bell bod yn rhan i gyd. A'r peyddol sydd yn gallu i ti thïg. Mae'n gwir gweld gwir o'r mamon sydd yn Cymr boardol, sydd ei ddweud a'i ffeirio ni'n gwneud ar gyfer ei eistedd, ond dim mewn gwir o'r peyddol, mae'n gwirwch geisio'r peyddol i'n gwirio. Mae oherwydd dyna'r yw'r meddwl. Maen nhw'n gan fel dyna'n yn rhoi. Mae'n holl y gallwch chi'n gwirio. I think that helps and I just think Ricky and myself, if you go to people and they like that and they like that and they want to support you and they want to see you do well and I was always really thankful of that. That's really good innit, cos I know we'll touch on it later down but in your face is at HONMETIND that song.. Yeah I was at HONMETIND by the way, yeah. ..that song, it was bouncing. You tend to see Manchester, Liverpool, Glasgow, the fans are tight, leads, there's all fucking nuts. Very similar, it's an oldest rivalry like but very similar to those I got at Mae gwerthu'r pal y blynyddiad, mae'r ffordd mae'r gwirach dwyda fyddio am lwyfynu, ac mae'r ffordd mae'r gwirach dwyda, Chwyl yw'n safidio sydd, mae'nweud rhai, i chi'n effeithio beth sydd ymlawn i, mae'r bwysig yw brdwyr yn dweud, fel mae'n ast Eurosor yn fyddeu'r rhai, mae'n gwyrd eich bod yna'r bwysig. Mae'n ychydig, mae rydyn ni'n cael ei ffwrdd oherwydd, mae'n bwysig unig mewn gwyfyrdd oherwydd. but I'm a mankin and I've proud mankin for anything So I've just, like, even what had recently gone on with Lord Mayor she didn't want to any burn him, and I'm like, getting that side leader. I love it, I love everything. That shit is��면 bender olé in mwynau紙il. Telling ym thoim ond that it. When you started going through your professional career, you went eight undefeated? 루�w y'r eight undefeated? Yes. And then you get a loss? How was that because you had two early losses in your career? Two early losses category, but the first loss Jordan talked with James and I think it's sort of a lesson for anything in life. I was seeing as this young hot prospect coming through, I'd not really put a foot wrong. And then it was like my first TV date and I remember writing out the status on Facebook or something that would have been back in the day. Do you know, tuning blah blah blah, I'm on at this time. And I don't want to say it was unumbling because I was never honest, I was never the cocky type. But I got beat my first time they showed me on TV proper by unboxing what you call the journeyman. And it wasn't. And basically a journeyman is someone who turns up most weeks, gets beat but looks to go the distance so we can fight again. You don't have a 30 day suspension. And yeah, that's the guy who used to follow media. And basically it was like he was a part-time ice cream man. So you can imagine how that went down, can't you? Mr Whippy and all that and stuff. Yeah, so it was it was a mad song. I'm going to remember like investment after it. We're in sat in the car park and we're going. I'd always like go out after the fight and you see everyone local who bought tickets. I always thought you know it's good to sort of say thank you. And I remember thinking, I think I'm saying like, I don't want to go in here, you know. Can I say stitches in the head and stuff and he went no and get out the way. You go out there because a lot of people they'll address it straight away. You're not hiding, you're not showing your face and it was for me. I was embarrassed and that's no disrespect to the opponent. But I put it right later on in my career. But it was sort of, do you know what I've seen? I've seen who was there for a long run. I've seen who was there for a long run. And I saw a lot of tickets, but then the fight after those tickets got cut in half because and I don't. It's one of them. I didn't take it personally. It was a few of me. It's like fucking sellouts then. So I was like no. I said. There after the jit Ricky was finished at the time. So I've always there, thereabouts and they wanted a journey to follow. There they wanted a replacement and they thought I was going to be it. And if I'm getting beat off part-time boxes, part-time ice cream man, I'm not going to be the guy to take him to Vegas or to give him those big nights at the arena. So I understood it and they come back later in my career buying tickets. And I was thankful when they come back because I thought, you know, I know, but I also realise people around me who was there for me. I learned early on, you know, he was there for the long run. He was there for the tough times and he wasn't. So I learned early on, you know, he was in the circle and he was going to stay in the circle. It was a mindset like after the defeat, take a couple of days off or straight back at the gym. There it was. I mean, I wasn't, I wasn't too sort of well after it, but no excuse, but I didn't. So I had to have a bit of a break, but I just wanted to put things right. I just wanted to put things right. And, um, and that's it. Well, I just wanted to get in the circle. We boxed a few fights later and I did put it right, but it was just, it was hard. It was hard to teach. You know what I mean? You stopped getting looked at the same. You stopped getting looked at the same and you was just remembered for getting beat. And that was it. You wasn't remembered for being all of a sudden, or wasn't this the next big thing around Manchester? And it was. It was very sort of wow. A bubble bust. Yeah. The bubble burst. Well and true. Westerwhip here. Mate, yeah. It's a, oh my mates are brutal like the WhatsApp group. Every lad doesn't. Oh mate. Terrorise me. But that's what makes you appreciate life and it's all the obstacles and the knockdowns that make you a better person. They do. Some people don't react to them well and that's why they'll never fulfil any needs. They'll fulfil any life ambitions. I could have walked away from it there and stuff like we were saying earlier, maybe gone down the wrong path then and thought well I'll try and earn a few quid doing something else but I thought no, stick with it. In 2012 was the fight, was English title with Kieran Farrow. Yeah. How's that for a boxer when if you end somebody's career in the ring? How does that affect you? That was the darkest moment in my career that, you know James. Like I said, I mentioned, you know, losing for the first time. I've lost fights after that as well and I lost, you know, with that. So obviously for anyone who doesn't know, you know, we had a great fight. It was for an English title. It was on a non TV show and listen, I had a job ready to start Monday because I wouldn't have been able to beat it. I would have lost that. There's no way I could have been a full-time pro. So I would have had a job and mate had a security company to give me a job in the offices and it was sort of a bit brutal as in where you lose on Friday mate. The job's there for you Monday and you start. I said, yeah, you're still training but you won't be able to be a full-time pro. And it was off TV, it was online and it was in a cold, a warehouse called The Bowlers. They have a lot of raves there now and stuff like that but it's a cold, cold night and in there it was, you know what I mean? You could see your own breath, it was freezing in there and the real sort of bare pit atmosphere, you know, Ciaran, a bit of a Manchester dive, Ciaran was just outside in a place called Aywood and I think the crime rate must have been zero there because I think half of Aywood had turned up that night and obviously we had a rowdy crowd and anyway we boxed and we had a great fight and I come through it, went on points and just after the final bell, seconds after, Ciaran collapsed and I was a bit like, wow, this was before a decision had been given or anything like that, you know, what's gone on, what's gone on and I'm seeing the next thing, I'm seeing a stretcher come in the ring and the next thing, I'm seeing him on oxygen and I'm like, I know the brutal side of boxing but this was, I was experiencing it for real for the first time and yeah James, I don't want to say the darkest moment of my career, probably the darkest moment of my life really, do you know? and there's an image that never leaves me and I remember him getting stretched out the ring and I'm just looking like, what's going on and I remember his mum, God bless us she's holding on to his hands, she's holding on to her little son's hand and she's breaking her heart and he's always unconscious and I'm thinking, I don't want to do this no more do you know, like, it still lives with me and anyway, you know, thankfully Ciaran, he had a bleed on the brain he could never box again but he's ended up making a full recovery and when I was actually with him yesterday he trains fighters and stuff and he's made a full recovery now he could never box again, but for mums it was just, it left me and my trainer said he went, it took you a bit to get over that he said, I watched, you just lost a little bit of devilment in the ring and you just wasn't the same fighter and I couldn't see him for, I didn't see him for good it sounds bad this because I'm not that kind of guy where I was thinking I remember after the fight just being up all night and you're looking for updates there's a lot of Chinese whispers in your ear and he takes the turn for the worst and stuff and I'm just thinking, I just want this boy to pull through you know, there can be rivalry before and so if I just want this to come through I just want him to come through you know, thankfully he did, but I couldn't turn up to the hospital because I thought I didn't know how his family was going to be or it just wasn't the time and then I left it a bit of time and it just, it's one of them he put things off and you keep putting it off and putting it off and to be fair with Ciaran, I've told him this and he says, I'm glad you did because I probably needed that bit of cooling off period and anyway I remember one day and I dropped to a message and I said, I'd love to come and see the gym one time and all that, I didn't really worry about it I was just scared but I knew it was the right thing to do and he went, yeah, yeah and then he said, come up I remember just getting him a car putting the postcode in I'm not looking at anything on the phone to get there or speaking to anyone because otherwise I might turn around anyway I went in and we've been a minute or two it was fine then, you know what I mean it was a little bit awkward, we're good mates now we're good mates and all's the other one is like him to do well now and stuff like that but yeah, when you see someone potentially nearly lose their life at your hands it just, it did affect me in a big way and I didn't, I love boxing I love to train and stuff but I thought do I want to do this anymore? That shows you how brutal it is though but that shows you your character because you are such a good guy you would have lost that fire in the ring Thank you and I did, I didn't know what I did until I got told after it and then it came back it came back boy, it was horrible I was scared with like I say I can still see it there clearly now just his mum holding his hand and she's breaking her heart and I thought, could have been my mum that and I know she would have been the same that sport mate, he's brutal he is, I've seen it like just I've seen that, I always say about boxing I imagine about most sports the highs are so high like you know I've had some of the best nights in my life but the lows and not even just me like the lows to get you, do you know what I mean I've seen friends and I've seen friends partners upset and family members who you know who they are broke and I'm just like it gets you, do you know what I mean it gets you and I'm like Do you think if it died you would have quit boxing? Yeah, yeah yeah I would have quit boxing I wouldn't have done it I wouldn't have been able to stay in a boxing gym I don't, I don't it sounds dramatic but I'd have always like say worked with me amateur club and with the kids and stuff like that I don't think I could have stopped in a boxing gym again I think I would have had to move away from it altogether thankfully it didn't and it's mad like now obviously he trains his own fighters and stuff like that but yeah if it would have the worst would have happened I don't think I would have watched boxing again It's class that you're both now friends because he was 14 and over at the time he was coming through the ranks he was a good fighter and I believe that night he would have beat a lot of good fighters and it was just it's sadden maybe it's in you know it was in it was pumped for him to go a different way and that's what he's doing now so after that then because you fought for the British title maybe two or three fights later was it dairy? no that was before it you lost that one before that so I'd won it and then I lost it so like say my career had a lot of ups and downs a proper rollercoaster so that was in one way you know you're in your own town and I've got my career back I'm trying absolutely flying and you know underestimated someone I don't think I underestimated, I just got caught by a shot and I didn't you know you got beaten your own backyard it was sort of just took the road really where it was and that was a number one of them where you think I remember getting I'm thinking I'm done with this boxing game but you know you say things in the heat at the moment and it like I say you know with the lows being so lower I remember getting back to my parents Alison my dad's going on you know just watch this I'm like crying my eyes out you know as I'm watching this fight and I'm thinking oh again it's just get it over and done with and then you look to build tomorrow's a new day you look to build again and then we boxed the game we drew didn't we you won that fight though that was it I fought so I fought everyone I think nearly everyone fought that and there was bloody a bit of crowd travel that night and yeah someone was just talking about it earlier but yeah just great nights you know in boxing like mad atmosphere the old echo it was in Liverpool and you should have either give it a drive but I thought it would be different but like you say a proper rollercoaster and thankfully sort of after that my career took off then in a big way Do you think that helps a fighter when they get low and you've still got the strength to kick on and keep firing Definitely because from early on I'd lost if you were early on before you know kicking on with my career like after that we um I was like handed a chance and I was the opponent we've had a year and so I was fighting a lad of Welsh I called Gavin Risu who was a good good fighter and I knew again my little lad was on the way and you know my partner was a few months away from giving birth and again that was one of the way I knew if I won that fight I could be a full time professional if not I thought I'm going to have to have a job on the side then you don't know you you can't concentrate the way that you you want to when training you don't know how you're developing you might think you know what I'll do somewhere else I'll do somewhere else as a career but thankfully I come through and that then which then it took off, it took off for me thankfully How is it though if your message is pregnant does that change your mentality as if you can't get in there willing to basically die to then start having other priorities and not think about yourself I was I was always it's you know it's a bad thing to say but I was always willing to leave it in there I was always willing to leave it in there but you know I think you're doing it for during your family aren't you and I knew winning that night would then give me a deposit on an house and then it would make life a little bit get us on the ladder because for the first few months I was living in my partner's their parents house her parents house so I didn't want that proud man I wanted to supply for your family yourself but yeah that's what that does but it's mad because even in title fights there'll be a form you have to sign it's such a strange one it's if the worst is to happen to you where your wage is going and you know I'm having to put basically a next to kin down and who who you want what percent you want to go into such a body and yeah so it's mad like as you and it's always on the fight they are the fight before but you're thinking I'm like potentially I'm signing a role yeah it's like I'm signing a willy when my wages are going yeah it's fucking scary shit man you've fought a couple of mask boys touch on willy lemon first who's an absolute nutcase I love willy I don't love willy I love willy lemon though whether that out or maybe I do do you know what I mean character he's run the podcast he spoke highly of you on the podcast willy's one of the best people I've met boxing in life not just boxing he's a great guy and boxing each other but before that I'd gone down sparring down classical and um gofarnwch great neighborhood always just left opening walking kicked in with the boys remember just walking I'd be thinking do you know what I never know I thought it was great everyone was by the end of the week or a few weeks I knew everyone I probably felt free to walk in people's houses put more on area it was madden it was that tough like because I struck up a little friendship with his two little lads and then a year later we boxing fighting each other for a British title and you know it went my way that night and I could hear his son a little bit upset ringside and that's tough you know what I mean and thankfully willy come in see me after it and brought the lads in just two great kids but after it again and I know people say oh he sounds soft but that one I'm hearing his son you know ringside and I'm like that's horrible it's horrible when they come in after it and literally show him the belt that's the lovely side of the sport but yeah willy man Scotland great place what can he do now he went to Mexico his career was flying I think he was still undefeated when he fought can put can in his ass I think he got the long count but yeah willy was very very good remember was that was that Peter Harrison's gym that day well that was a few years later when we were gone but great real sort of real fighting city Ricky Burns as well another great fight just that side of yeah and I think with that there was a great atmosphere that night because the arena had not long been open after the Manchester bombing and it was do you know what that's the only fight that James and Ricky's a great guy and stuff but I remember before I had the worst nerves everyone was a pretty I was pretty cool me it was for me it was just a job do you know I'm certainly not a violent person it was just a fight and we're going to shake hands after it and that's how he always looked especially with Ricky he's a nice nice guy and but it went long after the bombing and I had great support that night you know if you made the trip down for Ricky as well but I was remembering the day I went for a little walk and my auntie had always come and see me on the day of fights she couldn't come to the fights like two nerves and I would have a bit of a sit down where we should have a coffee and that you know just letting her say I'll be alright and everything and I remember some old woman I was walking back to the hotel room and she says oh she goes good luck tonight we were all rooting for you and I said oh thank you love she went we're going to watch her all the family had went don't be letting us down I remember thinking oh I remember she was an old woman there's a lot of what we've had in this city lately you know you'd put a smile on her face and do you know when someone just ditching you think you've got to embrace pressure sometimes that's what I believe you know there's a lot of people who'd love to be in your position but that just got me and I remember being locked in my hotel room and thinking I wish it was someone else tonight do you know everything that had happened and stuff like that and I remember my cousin she was there that horrible night thankfully she was alright she probably missed I'm not exaggerating she probably missed death by a few seconds you know she was covered in blood through the explosion and it was like just very surreal sort of idae kingdom yeah like it wasn't long after it there was an event a few weeks before but it was a packed out crowd and yeah that could have happened do you know what I wasn't because of new sort of security checks and stuff but you just don't know it was a big crowd to have in and if it was a possible target security was so tight but still it was an horrible worry and like there's family members there, there's friends there's people who paid the money to come and support me do you worry a lot over think do you know what I think I do at things but at the same time I learnt from a friend that there's no point in worrying about things that you've got no control of it's a waste of energy and if you no longer got control of that you can only hope it pans out the way you do and if you're going to stress and worry then it's just wasted energy you're sitting yourself mad so after that career started thriving got a few wins under your belt and then you got the world title shot but you ended up chasing two burglars down the street you fractured skill, you broke your ankle what's that story I think a lot of them will know about that but it was like four weeks before my first world title fight like I said worked hard for it and Christmas was cancelled in my house that year and anyway Matrina Matrina, Joe's been Matrina throughout really after my first sort of 12 fights or something Joe at the time he said I was flying and he said listen I was going to the running track he said I want you to have the night off he said you're ahead of schedule I don't want you peaking over getting there too soon I was going to go home rest up, spend some time with the family and I'll see you in the morning, we'll fire up again so I was like right okay I remember running stuff with me so I'd literally diverted and gone home so as I pulled up the next door neighbours a lam's going off and straight away like anyone if you were in a lam going off he was thinking is that going to go off and I I went and actually phoned my next door neighbour at the time I've gone your lam's going off here mate I said I don't think anyone's in and he said you know what I'll ring the missy now I think she's just gone Jim sorry for anger anyway and jokingly I said I'll just check no one's in the house anyway I've gone in and it's still going off I put me Jim back in I've gone round to the back garden and what I've done I'm there I'm looking and I've got my torch out on my phone and I thought is that window, is that you know like the shadow there's a big hole in the window so I think anyway next thing someone pops the red out and you know what I'm asking I get the fuck out so I've ran through my house and gone round to chasing I didn't know this one so then looked in the street so there's two of them so I'm like a man possessed that I'm speaking to started chasing them chasing them both and I'm like listen you're not going to get away from me I was getting married at the time Craig and his missus and I thought I didn't know what savings was I didn't know I know but I didn't know what it was about and so I've chased them chased them and I'm talking to them as I'm chasing them and I think they thought we're not getting away from this lunatic you know so it's like they've gone down the side garden the side of the garden and I've cornered them both in and then I always say it's like I can't exactly put one under each arm so you know what you're coming with me and you're going to have to snitch on your mate if anything's missing or what so one of them goes and just my luck there's a concrete slab that's loose as he's climbed it as I'm in the corner there next thing I just feel this bang on my head and he's slammed the concrete slab down on my head and I've gone down but I didn't know it was a concrete slab at the time I've hit the floor I've gone down on my knee, gone over on my ankle and I've gone wow I knew I'd not been punched, I've been punched a lot and I knew that wasn't a punch and anyway I jumped up straight away like within a few seconds and your man who hadn't got away he was climbing over I've jumped up to try and grab him and he's already halfway over and I couldn't put any weight on my foot so he's got away and I'm fuming thinking what the do you know what I mean anyway so I'm raging thinking I can't put any weight on my foot I can't put any weight on my foot and then I'm walking I'm trying to I'm hobbling home and the next door neighbour and the and the missus she's she's like what's happening I'm covered in blood and I'm like I don't know if it moves somewhere they put a brick out or a slab on me I didn't know what it was it turned out it was a concrete slab I said I can't put any weight on me so I've listened, hobbled on my mate one of my good mates he's not on the house to pick up tickets for my fight and news travels pretty quick and everyone's out and he's brought some people in just to check it wasn't them and they're like no no we was just in the area so my mum she's ran round she only lived at the time five minutes away she's going ballistic at me trying to be an hero and stuff like that and my mate's talking anyway and he's going on about I'm thinking about the fight I'm thinking about the fight four weeks away and I'm talking going ah meant to be sparring tomorrow and then you're in and you can see people looking at me I went but sparring what I'm doing then you can't even stand up and I went I know but I'll just swim I'll have to get leaves off the running I'll just swim for a week or something and I'll be right then next week and then my head's cut wide open the bleeding's not stopping and you could see you know people around there that you could see them going never in a million years are you fighting but they probably didn't have the heart to tell me I'm just like talking mad going you know me a guy will cover that I mean it's not ideal it could come open in a fight and anyway my uncle who lived up the road next door's mum she was a nurse and she'd come in and she was trying to stop the bleeding but he was going he needs to get to hospital they got me there the ambulance was taking too long and we got in the hospital they rushed me through and they recognised me and so anyway they got me through and I'm thinking there was a brain scan or something like that and they stitched me up and all that and I'm thinking brain scan and they only had one from the medical level what you can find and I'm just thinking about the fight and I'm like do this do that and anyway and I'm still like I'm high on adrenaline you know at this time even though my uncle's which I didn't know was broken a few places I remember it my uncle he was there and uncle Darren and Fran she was with me and we the doctor sort of come in to me and he says they took me through at this room I said do you the boxer aren't you and I said yeah yeah you aren't me he said you had a fight coming up didn't you I said yes and fight for my first world title in in four weeks nightmare this isn't it but it'll be alright and your money go and let me forget you said listen that won't be happening and I remember thinking no of course it will what do you mean it won't be happening and he says you've got a fractured skull and I remember just going numb just absolutely numb and sort of going out and I don't even know I couldn't tell my uncle or Fran and I don't have someone told him and I remember my uncle Darren and I'll leave you to it because I think he knew what to break down what to break down and he just got up and left me and cried like a baby I did because it was like just moved into a house and I thought oh my god if I can't box am I gonna play for my family and stuff like that and yeah it was it was just a bit so of me and then obviously you're up all night in the pain and stuff like that so they moved me on to like a private ward because you know papers and TV and stuff like that I didn't know what was going on and because there was I was just there on a ward and they were saying we're gonna move you and I was going I'm alright here it's okay no we've got to move you because and as they moved me the next thing I remember like up all night and like sort of not enough and you know I on painkillers whatever it may be that was giving me I remember thinking you know something like GMTV then it was on BBC Breakfast and then it was on sports and I was thinking what have they give me is this happening you know like what the fuck have they give me and anyway it dawned on me then like and it just for me then that was a big thing for me James where I knew positive thinking was a big part in recovery you know you sit there feeling sorry for yourself and I probably did have an excuse to feel sorry for myself you know I was heartbroken but I just thought I made a decision there in them that I've got it over this and what what totally triggered it I remember going down the surgery swimming on my ankle and I was getting pushed through and there was an older person on lay on the bed and they didn't have lung you could just sort of see like there was in very ill health and a lot of time you thought I thought you're not coming out of hospital you know not in that kind of way so I just managed raise his head and let on to me sort of thing and you know smiled back and I thought I'm crying here over this and someone's going to lose their dad, granddad whatever and you know just stop being mad and just that and I always said then I thought everything goes well I can make a recovery and I'm allowed to box again it's like I've been given a second chance in life make sure I take advantage of it make sure I get everything I can out of it and I always had that attitude but that was just a reminder that was a reminder where it was like I came so close to losing it all so close to losing it all and thankfully I got a second chance in life, not in life but with my career and that's what I did and I got off they gave me painkillers for months and within like a week or so I'd got myself off even though I didn't have much sleep as a final once because I think with me I think like them painkillers and stuff those prescriptions we know they can be yeah they can and I just I'm just really against them I'm not the biggest guy anyway but I was going super skinny and I just thought I can't recover on these there's no way I can recover on these and that was it that was there and then where I thought no I'm going to get myself better and it was just so fast the recovery Scary that to think that instead of just shouting out the window or making noises you've already done the damage in the van but that just shows again your character because you're thinking they've still they might have some of it that was my thing where you could have got fucking stabbed you could have done what you don't think at the time and you're one of them and everyone says oh did you find out never found out who it was and after a bit I was like you know you're a bit resentful and people this isn't in a big anyway but people was like you find out who it is let me know and you know something bad probably would have happened to them but I just thought if you're robbing houses you're pretty desperate aren't you and you know nothing after a bit I thought I don't want to know because what pleasure am I going to get out of what give them a good hiding or have someone give them a good hiding I'm not going to get out I genuinely hope to stop doing what they was doing that scared them a bit thinking that can't ever get out and that's it and genuinely now if I saw the person I wouldn't go for them it's just like it was hopefully a bad time in their life it was hopefully a bad time in their life and that was it mate That's amazing that you think like that brother I've played it to you man No but I just thought you're undone it's like holding onto a piece of coal you're just going to get burnt aren't you and for a bit I was better and I thought you horrible little fuckers do you know if I can't box again if I ever find out who you are I'm going to kill you and stuff like that in time times a healer in it with a lot of things and that was it whereas now I just what good would it do me do I hope I never find out Do you know if you just get a message one day for an apology as you know I've got a lot of bad men who were bad in the past and done a lot of bad shit and people kind of know now they're upbringing they've had a lot of pain they might have seen you in the news title contender lying there with a fucking bandage that could have been a way of calling and I hope it did He could cross paths in ten years and they could go apologising If it does then do you know what I mean it was worth getting ballied over title contender in hospital four weeks later so after that then what were you thinking when did you get the whole clear were you thinking my career is done I was having to brain scans and then a bit more in detail and I remember waiting on the board and it was like when I was waiting to find out it was just I couldn't sleep because like I said I kept thinking what am I going to do for a living if I don't I think I would have involved in summer and hopefully I had a lot of good friends who would have helped me with a job or something like that but boxing I sort of put on an egg in one basket and that's what I'm saying about kids at school when I went on about I'll do this so I've got something to fall back on I never did have something to fall back on I was probably I was lying to my mum and dad saying I've done this and that passed this at college or school and really I just wanted to be in the gym I just wanted to be in the gym so it was then that it came back to me and thinking I didn't do that just in case because I had no idea what I was going to do thankfully I got the all clear but I like to say having a fractured skull being a professional boxer it ain't the best injury to have is it so yeah I got the all clear after somebody helped step in and took your place that night and they went out it was everyone that was going to and then that fight fell through so maybe for some reason it wasn't meant to be I don't know like some some bad reason why I got it over the head what was that you heard saying when you were in hospital it says you fucking idiot idiot you're under 10 stone chasing two breakers down the street but that's just how it is you're where the people we are if someone's in I've always been talking if someone's doing wrong like that in your neighbours you look after your neighbours don't you and you look after your own and if everyone has that attitude then they won't be knowing that I was there fucking chased off a boxer but it's one of them women mates do things you'll do for attention and stuff like that to make publicity but now they're probably enhanced your career time food do you know what I remember saying to me this is so stupid this could be the best thing that's ever happened to you as I'm laying there like laying plaster big scar down here this could be the best thing that's ever happened to you in a way it was like for the comeback fight of the world title everyone had a bit of a story to it you know what I would say a rocky story but it had a bit of a story to it and it helped Eddie over the first with me it helped to get sales a lot it probably haven't said to you he's like screwed me proper business fan so when you got the call again for the first world title fight eventually went through when did you realise it was getting took to your home town Manchester yeah well he phoned me and he said listen on the back of this he says I think we can come to Manchester and we can do big numbers you might not know it but you've become a bit of a celebrity with it all and yeah that was it in the night in July we come to the arena come to the arena it was my world title fight and that was it I thought not many people in life get a chance for the dreams to come true and I thought that night I had a chance to make that dream come true how was the nerves do you know what it sounds mad there was nerves but it was excitement and it was relief it was relief you know I was back I was back fighting and I was back doing what I loved and I very nearly lost it so obviously the first world title fight it was like a really really debated to see where it was to draw it was that controversial it demanded an immediate rematch but everyone was like how did you do you know how did you remain so calm after it I wasn't yet and yeah I was upset I was upset but at the same time I was just thankful to be doing what I'd done and I dreamed the top I'd dreamed of being in world title fights at that arena since I was a little boy and I always remember my best mate saying to me when was I not like Joe Carl's aga he bought Jeff Lisa put in one of the best performances we've ever seen in a British ring and sat there in the stands and he says he's coming out and like best mates do this will be you one day this and at the same time you're thinking you would say that but he always stood with me and I'm walking out that night and that moment replayed to me you know sort of that was my moment to fight for a world title in the city where I'm from the arena where I've gone since was being kid saving up pocket money to go and be in the upper tears to be in the gods yeah that was my night so I thought I had a lot to be thankful for as well was that the James Arthur tune? that's when it started how did your music come about? obviously the name million dollar crollo so million dollar bill but it's a bit um it's not your typical ring walk music it's no gangster rap is it? but it worked as you've seen like it was catchy to have everyone singing along but before it I'd always have James James Arthur on Town Glory and it just worked well I was um I was a sucker for reality TV and like do you know X Facts and stuff and I always liked him and I always remember him singing it one week and um it was mad it was like in his beat so Eddie said what you're coming out to Saturday the usual like million dollar I went yeah I said but what I'm doing before it sounds a bit cheesy but I'm coming out to hometown glory and he went me he said I have wanted someone to come out to that for years but not the Adele version there was a guy on X Facts I called him and he went me that's the one and it was like it was meant to be so every time now every time after that I was at the arena that's what I come out to that's what I come out to and um yeah it was good and obviously then we got the rematch and it was um it was one of the greatest nights of my life you know over in the berth of my little boy How fast did the rematch come about? The rematch was July so what happened is I went from being the boxer it's got hit over the head with a paving slab to the boxer who got robbed of the world title because you know it was a draw it was a controversial draw horrible decision but they granted a rematch straight away so that was in July the November I think it was just after the birthday 2015 yeah I um I got a rematch and the fifth round I landed one of the best body shots yeah I've ever threw in my career one of the best punches I've ever threw in my career and yeah the roof nearly come off the arena there's um and that you sort of see when you can see the relief there was so many emotions there was joy there was relief and you know what I felt like you know all the sacrifices from my mum getting on buses to me to get me to the gym to getting run up and down the country to missing out on nights out with my mates to you know making those sacrifice everything was worth it then and yeah it was like I said not many people's dreams come true in life and that night it did because there was motion that night for everything you'd went through the slab thing the rematch losing it the first time did you feel as if I'm never going to win a world title yeah like there was people who thought you know that was your night last time you got a bad decision and you should have got the win rather than draw and they think that's your moment that was meant to be he's going to come back better and I always knew I thought he was mad before the fight the rematch he told me after the fight he went I was fuming in the changing rooms I thought he's too laid back but it was like you know when sometimes I can't start saying I believe in fate and all this and that but I knew that was meant to be my night and I remember thinking I'm not coming back to this chest without that world title it was the most relaxed I've ever been which really I should have been the most nervous I've ever been a shot at a world title might have been my last shot at a world title but I was the most calm I've ever been and I thought I'm going to walk out here and own this and win a world title and thankfully that's what I did 28 years of age that's amazing though from everything that you've went through and such a nice guy, humble as fuck do you know what I've had Tony Bale on the phone Willie all brand new just good fucking guys man boxing, I genuinely believe this boxing you're very, like all boxing life and all jobs you meet some snakes but you meet a lot of good people in boxing and I'm thankful where that's why I think I've got to be careful because with boxing it can be a brutal horrible sport I've seen the horrible sides of it but it's also made my life a little bit easier it's made my family's life a little bit easier give friends some great nights and it's something to places around the world that I never would have gone without it whether that be the fighter of training camp supporting people but you meet a lot of life long friends in boxing and that's what I've done and it's work like when they fight your friends fight it's almost like I get more nervous for them than what I did when I fought because you're not in control of it you're not in control of it but yeah it's it's a funny old game mate it's a funny old game I wish mum and dad my dad was cute he might have said it to some of the people he might have said it to some of the people and his reaction but he was of course mine my mum used to always she'd just wait for the message she'd mime a little boy and she'd just wait for the message however I was okay and she couldn't watch anything she couldn't watch the boxing my mum loves boxing but she could not watch me and she I'd always ring her when I got back to the changing room my mum would be the first person to ring and say I'm okay mum you're alright that was it and she could watch it then so you defended your title after that and then you lost your title how was that feeling to have everything that you set your mind to at the end losing it I defended my world title and I fight that again people didn't expect me to win that was possible in the great snack of my career against Dermis Melbour also so then after that I fought for like the best prizes in the sport against a fight we would have looked up to you know early on in my career Jogel and I was a great guy great guy and we had a great fight we had a great fight and the first one there and he he just, I was thinking I was so close to breaking him at one point in the fight and then I would have had the most prestigious marbles in boxing do you know what I mean but it wasn't meant to be that night but it's I sort of do you know what it was obviously you disappointed you've never been, I'm never going to celebrate losing but it sort of a bit of it hit me sort of how far had come in such a short time from an hospital bed to winning a world title defending a world title and then fighting the very elite in the sport why did you never get any after this lab thing did you not fight just in a world title just went straight into a world title because world title fights don't come around but it could have been easily someone else so it took me all of two seconds to decide that's a big move to line up yeah I said no take it you know where he fought me and he said you can either have a tune up fight and then we can hope to get a world title fight which I think you know we can get a world title fight so after your other two world title shots with what's his name again the boy and then he had the few fights in between then you got a call for when did you do the prize fighter oh that was way back that was early doors wasn't it though that's when you were young yeah young but so after the narries obviously with Boxer Ricker I boxed the good on the Indonesian fella Daw Jordan but also Lomachenko how did that fight come about because I do it in the mandatory spot as one world title final eliminators and I I boxed, I then hurt the right to fight one of the greatest the sport has ever seen and then I think just before that I think the fight before it was my last big night it had been a hard career and I performed remember after the fight before that your down fight in the post fight drug test Mayorian was purple do you know and that's someone about the brutal side of the sport but yeah it was so doing the right to fight Lomachenko which obviously was not about a doing it weren't like I didn't win a lottery I didn't win a raffle to fight him and that was over in Los Angeles as world champion that was going to be my world champion and obviously listen just before that I mean not before the fight and everything like that but when I look back now my best days are probably just behind me before that but that was a mad experience again just little mad things like I remember the day they were weighing there was the rapper Nipsy Osil it was his funeral and LA you'd never seen a police presence like it and as I'm weighing in your canhies and stuff like at the side of where the weighing was you know going to this funeral and stuff like where the mass was in the Staples Centre you know the service and it's just like okay now like a boy from sort of near New Moster in Manchester like it's a bit mad at this word so so the proud moment you know I look back and obviously getting fighting by how long Lomachenko wasn't but it was just when I look back and this boxing is a funny old game but I wouldn't at the time there would be times where I'd look to you know I'd change things but I think everything does happen for a reason in a way and it leads you on the path you're on and that was it it was it was good to me but it was it was a mad, mad journey That's a phenomenal career brother do you think you discredit yourself a little bit sometimes you've had about four or five world title fights you've been a world champion you fought one of the best pound for pounds Lomachenko, I've seen his fight actually last week that was it unbelievable I fought I fought the best of me here really so I can walk away with no regrets walk away with no regrets because you had one more fight that you won, how was it after that to then decide Lomachenko, your big payday and then it was kind of a tire Do you know what happened? It was times of tire and then it was my idea to message me and I said I was saying I think I'm going to have one more fight and Eddie had messaged me and said November the 2nd, Manchester arena you know with the eyes of my old year as if to say you know think about it and I just landed in a B for airport and I've gone yeah, signed me up signed me up and I'm sure you've been a B for and it was madden, I didn't think about the fight I didn't think about the fight, I think it was just there and I remember being away for a few days and then coming back and I always called me, you know that I'd be for airport and do you know where that Burger King is you see some corpses don't you they're lying on the floor, yeah yeah the Burger King is deaf, there's just bodies there in there bodies and and I didn't, I didn't have a mad one or out like that I was chilled but I remember going for the airport but I remember thinking I feel like them, I like just thinking why have I agreed to this but I've already given a word to it I've already given a word to it so I can't go back on it but I remember thinking why have I done this why have I done this and I'm thinking although I don't look hopefully I don't look like some of these people on the inside I probably feel like him and really I should have retired and anyway I committed to it ended up having the fight I won on points, think box in the way near as well as what I should have done but it gave me closure you know on a career and I just think I wasn't, it's one of them like I believe I've looked after myself since I could probably fight at the same level and make an easier job of it than what I did that night but I think just the old emotions and I remember looking through my phone on the day and I was getting the nicest the messages from people saying it's been some ride and it's been an honour to watch you for there and they made me a bit emotional and on the night I think I probably fought with too much emotions but then at the same time the fight started a few rounds in and I even got introduced by Michael Buffer for the last time ever you know for the last time and everything sort of dawned me and then when the bell went it was like I've still got to fight here, do you know like this leaving party but I've got to fight now I was just sort of happy with the pace and actually I got the win but I was just, I wasn't happy with the performance but I was like annoyed myself for an hour you see a few family and friends after it a drink or two goes down endured it worse and it was like I'm glad it's over thank God it's over and that's not because I love boxing I love the job and I live the dream do you know I said it before it took me to places that I could only dream of but I meet so many good people I met like people who was my heroes going up and friendship friends with those people but I was just glad it was all over I I knew it was my time to bow out and I'd seen it with people close to me, you're staying boxing too long it's not good for you it takes more, I always use the line of don't let boxing take more from you than you take from boxing I've seen it so many times and I wanted to be an example to some of the kids in the area I don't want to be slow in my words I don't want to be punch drunk I don't want balance affected so I knew it was my time to go and that was it your main thought was that because 32 is young 32 is young but I'd had a mad career and I think everything since the accident right through it was a mad sort of four years, non-stop was it four years or five years on top of that and like I said in the career there were times where it was hard it was hard you know always I was called million dollar and I was living in bum beds with my lover it was driving around and like little courses on finance and stuff it was hard it was tough where a lot of people I believe would have come away from that you couldn't afford to you just started getting by with money to put petrol in your car to get to the gym so I knew that I'd got everything I could out of boxing and sometimes you've just got to let things go aren't you all good things come to an end eventually and that was it and I didn't want to be that fighter who stayed there too long but that shows you again how sensible you are to set your mind to it agreeing with it and then coming out because you can be sitting here listening you've potentially just lost another free for maybe world title shots and you could still probably get involved and now when you see a lot of boxers sitting there and thinking 38, 39 and then they come back and that's it and I won't do that and a few people have said to me you're going to come back and I won't because I'm happy now I'm in the gym I'm coaching all the time but so I'm still around that gym banter whereas I feel guilty in it I see some fighters retiring they proper struggle with it I've not do you know what I mean I've really not I'm happy with everything listen I set out a boxing at the start of my professional career I thought my aim is to try and become a world champion and also to get an house paid for because I think once you've got an house paid for life's just a little bit easier isn't it you know you've not got a mortgage hanging over you I watched my mum and dad graph for 30 odd years to pay a mortgage off and you know I've got that and more so I've got to be thankful so that's when I think whatever you're doing life if you become greedy wherever you get caught if you're up to no good in boxing you get greedy you're standing around it'll effect you later on in life don't want to be that guy what was that training camp like for you a training camp was in training camps was harder than the fights and you know it was it was hard, it was tired, it was moody and listen I think you see so many relationships go for a boxer of a training camp because it's hard they're not the nicest of people to be around because you're just boxing you have I've got to be selfish but you know you're on a diet you can't just do a lot of things like get a takeaway on a Friday night and stuff like that and it's tough it's those training camps there's times where you look back and think I was the fittest I've ever been in my life but also it was it was just training but you had to be learned each camp had always trying better myself and better myself and I did I think but it would take so much off you it would take so much off you and I think people thought they'd see you on fight night and just like any you know a footballer when they turn up on match day but there's so many sacrifices that go on before that so many sacrifices and yeah you if I'd love to be a boxer or love to be a footballer but okay but would you love to live the life that they have to live up until that night you probably wouldn't because it's horrible it's lonely it's tough it's hard but in a strange way I loved it you know yeah how you must have obviously massive manufan how never old Trafford come about because you would have so out no doubt everyone always said it but it's always had with those outdoor events the overheads are huge and stuff like that and I think it takes Summit as big as Tyson Fiori Anthony Joshua again I wouldn't discredit yourself with the Manchester support you've got behind you maybe you know they would have turned out so maybe so but it's I don't know it's matters that would have been the ultimate like I said that fight night that arena honestly you don't understand it was there was something special to me every time and people would say it about the nights there was something else many teams were you in there seven teams few of them more I don't know I should know that it was a fight touch because I've been in more title fights I think than anyone there but you know when people stopped me and I was in town then before and one of the builders was there at the arena for somebody and it means loads to us and I've talked to him and it's like there was big nights for the city but I didn't realise because I was just the one getting punched in the head do you know what I mean I wasn't I didn't see it like you know the old days like people would meet early in the pub they'd make a big day of it and it was mad that I was always going to the Tiffany at Rust on a Sunday night bit of a takeaway after and the amount of people who was in there we saw reds and they go I'm in the bad books because of you and this is he's going to kill me and this and that yeah it was great it was great but just little things that you don't realise it when you you know when you're a part of it but it was a big thing yeah it was a big thing would you thank you the failure weight division now is I think British boxing in general is in great in a great place I think it's in a great place and kids who are coming through the Olympians next year I think boxing is because it's because it's ever been I think two of the most recognisable athletes on the planet in any sport Tyson Fury, Andrew Joshua both you know both both boxes and I think you know I'd put them up there with almost anyone yeah there's only like your Ronaldo's maybe McGregor or something like that but they're right up there but they're right up there boxing's at an all time high and you see it in the gyms now the gyms are packed out and yeah I think it's because I know Tyson Fury speaks out about mental health he knows how much it's good for he does working hard, fitness is key to any sort of depression we've got yeah we've Tyson he's been a great advocate for it he's been like a great role model for so many because of the place where he was and that's the thing now the situation we're in now about gyms getting locked down you don't realise the mental health it does do for people and I'm like and I think so many people they can think well if Tyson Fury can do that and be every weight champion of the world I can come back and get my life back on track and I think it's good you know that's someone who I think they can relate to I'm not saying the 648 or 649 I'm going to be champion of the world but you know sort of a man of the people whereas and me this is one of my things because mental health is a big thing for me where I see it in the gym I see it with some of the younger kids it can start from an early age but unless and that might be the reason why you might sort of disagree but that might be what's leading the mental health might be leading to that but I can't take it when I'm seeing someone who's off the nut Friday, Saturday sticking stuff up the nose and then the preacher mental health and I'm on the juice there I'm like no you're on a come down I've seen it I've seen it with people close to me and I'm like you know James and I'm like I don't know about don't start talking like this and it might sound a bit harsh but I don't want you to start talking like this and feeling sorry for yourself what you're running to come down because you've been an idiot and and that's why I think you know because I've seen people who genuinely you have proper genuine mental health problems and they're the kind of role models that you want them to look up to rather than someone on social media posting up a quote or posting up a summit I think it's easy to self-medicate how to handle their thought process the drink the drugs takes them away from their method of thinking but if you've got if you're really struggling with like depression mental health mental health's a different from maybe depression from a weekend bender if you are struggling if you come off the gear the alcohol for two three weeks you'll feel a total different vibration in yourself you know better than me do but you've got to look after yourself and then you know if you're still feeling in a certain way then there might be problems but I just think you've got to look after yourself and exercise is key exercise is key and it's like now we're working some of the kids in the area it's great sort of seeing that now the gyms are back open just the change in some of them the change in some of them you have the parents saying it and the school saying it and it's honestly I believe exercise is the key to so many others and happiness isn't a 24 seven thing but you could win world titles and you're back to your normal state the next day and this is what people need to understand when you're exercising you feel great that's why you've got to do it consistently yeah we don't live in Disney it's nice it's my belief it does match the thing for me now sort of what I'm going to sort of go into sort of now in life sort of working with the kids who are at risk of exclusion who might have sort of the mental health problems so I'll come from a troubled background because like you say exercise listen they're not everyone who walks through the amateur gym where I'm at they're not going to be a world champion but they might do you know what it just brings them out the shed just gives them life skills life skills and stuff like that and that's why I'm so big on exercise when you got your gym was it the gym you trained at and then it gets set on fire so what I did I was I was a professional but then the amateur gym was going to be at home and I'd always stayed coaching there a few times a week so I took over the amateur gym and got that and then the first day of lockdown first weekend of lockdown the building that it was in got set on fire you know an arson attack and it was it was nothing to do with those well I hope not it was nowhere we've got any enemies but there was a lot of businesses in there and there was left without you know it was left without a gym and we just actually building the other gym now so we're getting it all kicked out in the next four weeks we'll be up and running we'll be using a French gym at the minute but we'll have our own place and that's the plan now to we'll have the amateurs in there we'll have professional fighters we'll also have kids in the area at risk of exclusion there's a kid who work with now he's a great kid four of his brothers are all in prison he's not really got a father figure and I think if I work with you I can stop you going down that path and if I do then it's a massive thing for me he's not going to be a world champion he's not going to have a fight but he's just in the gym and he can sort of dedicate and I just think now you can try and give a little bit back in the area channel the energy channel the energy and that's a big thing especially for the clear your heart of and then you're still in there getting your hands dirty trying to save other kids that's what I think you know it's always good to try and give back isn't it I don't want to sit here and listen people go well you get paid well there'll be a wage for some of it but some of it's voluntary but it's rewarding and sometimes listen you could set some up and there's a lot of funding going around now and you could earn good money off it but I don't want to what I do is sort of just kids in the area sort of just stop them going off start them going down the wrong path that's a big thing for me so through your amazing career top class world fighters now you're trying to help the kids what else you got plans you still get your looks still get your hair I've had a few boxes on you know it's pretty the nose is a bit of a fat now the nose is a bit of a fat now so what's the plans for the future yeah so the plans now is I'm coaching both professional and amateur like I said then be working with the kids in the area and doing bits of TV radio it's mad like sometimes ringside talking about talking about a fight between two world class fighters and I think it's great this getting paid to talk about the sport that I love the job that I love and yeah that's sort of plenty more of that but that's the biggest thing for me is to set up to set up the gym and have it running each day having different different school children in who are at trouble in school trying to stop them getting kicked out of school and sort of give them a bit of direction in life I'm not going to pretend on coach Carter or nothing like that great film great film but some of these kids are good kids and schools not for everyone but I believe that they can channel some of that energy in a boxing gym or whatever then it's a great thing but I think that's it really that's my aim in life and all the second part of my life I think just to do that I'm 46 I'm 40 it's horrible is erm what's the best fight you've ever been in what's the one you've really loved and stood out I think the Ismail Barol defending my world title getting introduced off the legendary Michael for one of the coolest guys on the planet in a fight even though I was champion and a lot of people didn't think I was gonna win to win that game plan carried out to perfection and the atmosphere that night was mental erm I remember like after party after it coming out and I only put it on yesterday literally the walk of shame from the club to the old set the first sky cameras should probably stink in a boot just good times you know what I mean but yeah that was the best fight involved in because it was just you know when there was doubters believers yeah underdog everyone loves a good underdog story and that's what it was so I think that was that was probably my finest hour to be honest what's the best fight you've ever watched best fight I've ever watched wow erm do you know up close Frotch grows one was unbelievable unbelievable Frotch was rocked as well man I remember just thinking wow he didn't even know he was on his ass he was out and then as he hit the floor but I think that was up close that I've seen to a lot of great fights you know close up but erm and then I think on telly one that always sticks out in me I remember watching it just at the road that my nana and grandad's when he was there bending my clenin and again that shows the brutal side of it you know he's had life changing injuries 20 odd years ago he's not had a quality of life erm but again that was a big underdog story and I love that just not what happened after it the heavy weights of two big dogs Joshua and Tyson who do you think wins mate I've always said for a long time erm I believe and not because I've known him for a long time but I believe a fit and focused Tyson Fury is the best everywhere on the planet and I just hope it happens why did the fuck about it man is it just money now I think money could be one thing but and you could say egos and not even just from them like the people above them erm but also you know contracts and then mandatory challenges but I just really hope it can happen and I hope it happens over here it might not erm nothing against an event happening in Saudi I've been to one but you just think it's the biggest yeah Wembley our old Traffador anywhere do you know Spursground you want to see the biggest fight in British boxing history you want to see it happen in Britain don't you I think Tyson's got to be one of the greatest heavy weights of all time do you think he's underrated as well because of the fact that we're clutch going he's come back for it he's totally skilled it's the stories of real and it was mad I was in just I was in Regal with him a few weeks ago at a boxing event and erm he's mad like I said he's a superstar now he's erm I remember him stopping traffic people were just leaving engines running he was mad he was mad he's a superstar erm but yeah I think everyone loves the story and he's mad like he's more popular now when he's come back he's downfall because we love a comeback story we don't know what it was when he was a young champion the front clutch go it's erm it's great but hopefully him and Joshua who's done a lot for British boxing he's a nice guy man he's just a nice guy he's had a story he's come round mate there's two great guys and you just hope that it happens I think it will, it's next year sometimes there's that much money involved that can't not happen next year hopefully we'll see it for any kid that's watching anybody watching it's maybe struggling or maybe what they start boxing what advice would you give for them I'd say listen the hardest thing for some of those kids is stepping in a gym erm it's going to a boxing gym can be an intimidating thing but one thing I've never seen in a boxing gym and I think a lot of people have backed me up here I've never seen bullying in a boxing gym walking to get it back into schools I've never seen racism in a boxing gym do you know with in so many boxing gyms we have kids of all races boys girls and like I said bullies will get found out in a boxing gym so that's what's great about it so if that's one of your worry if either of them two things are your worry then I'd say I've never seen it I've been in a lot of boxing gyms over the years so erm listen get in there I'm not saying every fight is going to be a champion a world champion but I think it will change your life for the better Anthony for coming on the day brother and telling your stories it's been phenomenal great career mate and honestly genuinely I wish one of the nicest guys I've ever met I wish you all the best for future brother check out more of my podcasts on the right and be sure to like share and comment your thoughts on this weeks podcast thank you