 Democratic socialism means that if somebody works 40 hours a week, that person should not be living in poverty. In the only cases in which the masses have escaped from the kind of grinding poverty you're talking about, the only cases in recorded history are where they have had capitalism and largely free trade. We must raise the minimum wage to a living wage. The minimum wage law is a law requiring employers to discriminate against low-skilled people. That's not the way anybody will describe it, but that is in fact what it is. My vision is transforming American society. I don't have any doubt about his sincerity, but I think sincerity is a much overrated virtue. What troubles me about him is that he wants to run my life for me instead of letting me run my life.