 Mae ddwy o'r gwaith yn unrhyw dechrau willu I ddechrau i gael g Editwyr yn y ffrif. Merfeithio'n rhai ffyrdd. Mae yna roi'r ddifrwch gael i'r ddechrau Mae'n ddifrwch gyda'r greu Mae'n ddifrwch faint i'r ddifrwch Mae yna ddifrwch Mae'n ffrif a fydd amlaen herein Mae'n ddifrwch Mae'n ddifrwch Mae'n ddifrwch Mae'n ddifrwch Mae'n ddifrwch am ffrif Mae'n ddifrwch I said, let it can you best, Jimmy said, Balabuffet, but you're in between. We're in between, basically. We're kind of based in Drum King, so you couldn't be more in the middle, really. So we have Paul and Nigel, yourself, Ben and Michael, and Michael, you were up last week? I was, yeah. Wasn't the same, but last week, because I was looking here. Oh, I have to thank Paul Buckley. Paul Buckley stepped in last week as executive producer, and we'll have to get some sorted out ways to put him down as executive producer. But only thanks, Paul, you're doing a great job, and I thought you weren't busy this week. You could have come up as well, but anyway, the Kesmer effect, first of all, Nigel, how long have you been together? The four of us together now since four years 2018, since we got together, but myself and Paul have been playing music together since we were early teenagers. We were about 15-odd years, and we've been playing music together. Ben and Paul are brothers, so he used to play along with us at times. But the band has come and gone over the years, if you want to put it that way. From what it was, we had two lads that used to play along with us, and then the band stopped for two or three years and away. Was that to do with the Covid thing? No, that was just laziness. And honesty. Was it Covid or not to do it at all? No, not at all. Well, Covid put an end to us playing for a while as well. Like everyone else, you know. I tell you what, we're going to go into a piece of music for us to start with on right now. First song up, Nigel. Yes, first song up is actually the first song of our latest EP, if you like. And it got its first play by Mr Jimmy there. He just left the room before he got to hear it again. He's sick of it. This one's called Be Free, and it's written by yourself. It's written by ourselves. Well, when you're ready. Yep, no bother at all. All right. This one I ever said would have influenced the music in it. That's a nice vibe. Bring out sounds amazing, Kelly says. Love it. There's the man of death. Very George Harrison. Love it. Again, that's something we've heard. I clumped up and he says, Michael still likes country music. The EP, that's from the EP. The current EP. Current EP kept Kepler. That went out in May. So, when do we start recording now? It must have been February-ish, I think. Yeah, I think I got the national tracks down around February. We got the tracks down around February, yeah. March is much really kicking in here. Where did you do it yourself? I have a studio at home, so I was able to put her together there. Good stuff. Many tracks are on that. There's five. And they're all originals, all your own. So, I always ask people this. When you sit down, do you sit down with a pile of songs first or do you sit down and say, we're going to write five songs first? Do you have them? No. This EP was meant to be three songs. It's one of the things where you just keep going. Things just kind of flow naturally at that. You're inspired by the Beatles. Anybody else sort of would be on your list? How long have you got, really? In terms of songwriting stuff, for me, older prog music is where I get my influence from King Crimson and Pink Floyd and that sort of stuff is my big influence in terms of songwriting and even what I listen to it even still on a daily basis. Again, you could be listening to it. When I'm in the car, two ends in the backseat, it could be throw on this or throw on that, throw on that. It doesn't matter. I could just go on whatever random playlist and whatever comes on and I'll enjoy it. If someone says what music he enters, it's music. Whatever it is. I get that because I see myself. I couldn't define myself. You would like today and you might like tomorrow. The songwriting, is it just yourself, Nigel? No, not at all. It's very much a collaborative effort. There's been songs before that's been written entirely around the bassline. When he's not listening, most bands will tell you that the bass fills in the south. For us, it's very much a frontrunner. It's that sort of thing. Songs can be written around a bassline, can be written around a guitar, can be written around anything. It all comes together. Tell me this, you have a video out next week? In the next week or two, we haven't nailed down a date for it. It's all done, it's all finished and produced by a good friend of ours, White Crow Media, Aaron McGee, who does stellar work for us. There's a lot of photography and design work as well for us. He's between him and our EP designs and logo design and all is done by Darren Roddy and Dundalk. There's a lot of creative forces behind it, but Aaron has produced the video for us. There's a serious element to this too as you're talking about the video and you're talking about the designs and stuff. It's just not a matter of getting it out of the video. We're all in our mid-30s and early-40s. At this stage, we're not young fellas going, we're going to make it, we're going to do this and we're going to tour the world and it's a passion project, we enjoy doing it. You have to still show a bit of pride in your work if you like. How you look is... Maybe not physically. How you look on the internet could be... What do you call it, airbrush? A gigs and stuff, do you speak out much? We must play four or five gigs a year about what we do. There's some money in that. I would like to say so. Some money for us to pay to do it. We play around where we can. It's not a case of where we're booking a tour to Southern Europe today or to return to UK or Ireland. We play a couple of gigs here and there. We've planned to do a few, coming up in October now. We haven't nailed down yet, but we've planned to do a couple around Galway and Dublin and that there. Your mini Irish tour if you like, around October time, but we haven't nailed down yet. In sort of selected venues? Selected people that are allowed in as well. Well, you see it, I suppose that's the way it is now. But the good thing about that, every style of music has got a venue. You can't go far wrong. You don't have to go too far down the road. Letter Kenny even has it there. Certain venues are labelled as certain types of music in this sort of thing. It's good, but it's nice to see... Put it this way, the cottage down there in Letter Kenny wouldn't have been associated as a rock bar for many years. It would have been associated as your little quiet pub but out of this last year or two, especially since coming back from COVID, there's been endless amounts of gigs down there. It's fantastic to see, but more diversity if you like it. Do you think COVID sort of do that? Maybe people go here, I want to hear different stuff. I do think it was definitely a factor in it that for years, people were kind of, I want to go, I want to go. But then once you're locked inside for two years, you're not able to do anything, you're damn happy to get out and go to whatever bar is shown, whatever type of music at any time looks. Right, so brilliant. Right, another track from you is a bigger pardon. Yes. It's from the new AP as well. It was originally meant to be an instrumental, but kind of the last minute it was like just throw some lyrics on there because it was a friend of ours passed away earlier in the year. He was a local electronic musician himself, Shaman Delhi, he went under the name Angus Freil and he started with the inspiration behind the lyrical content here. So he often talked about this thing that was going to get you in your sleep. It was called the titan. So it was basically this, I don't know what it was called, like sleep paralysis or that sort of thing, like these sort of demons in your head and that sort. So we hummaged to him, we think we called her song the titan in just a wee thing for him. Class, whatever you're on there. You just tuned in, that's the Casper effect and someone said that's a song that... We played, do you remember with Paul Weep on some, what was the competition called? Don't know cabinet wasn't it? Live and kicking, wasn't it? Live and kicking in the Green and Theatre. Years ago was something at this stage and I remember though as the newspaper article came out and the Donegal news afterwards and it compared the voice of a young Nick Cave and I was like, I know the name but I've never listened to the boy and from then on I went and started listening to him. I was a big fan of that after that, like so. It's funny how when I was listening to the start of it I was getting a bit of a strangler's golden brown there just running through it. I'd be happy enough with that. When people get different things out of it, that's the main thing. That is it. You have many tracks in total, seven. There's five on that EP. There's a couple of instrumentals on it because it's sort of a, if you want to say it's a concept EP so it's the Kepler telescope was named after so the first track on it's called Day One and the last track is Day Three, Five, Two, Three which is the length of time that the Kepler telescope was in orbit or in operation for NASA in space. I knew that. I did not. Every day is a school day. I remember this from the baller, a great riff, pure folk, prog, very haunting. That's a good description isn't it? No, you take that surely. Of course, mighty stuff. Brilliant sounds, amazing, absolutely love it. Very George Harrison. All complementary. What about the live album? What's the story of the live album? The live album was, when we launched our this EP, if you want, we launched that in the baller in May, the end of May and just recorded the whole night. So we have 13 or 14 songs coming out in the live album now in September from the night. You might as well look it's one of those things if you have the facility and the opportunity to do it you might as well do it. When you're doing that live album are you conscious of the fact it's been recorded now or you just go for, you know Look, it's a little bit of A, a little bit of B. At the end of the day priority on the night is your live show because there's no point in playing a live show if you're just saying Baller's a big one to you. It's a block, for me it's one of the best venues in the northwest of the country I've worked and played and venues up and down Ireland and it stands up to everything Was that a doubt? I've never seen a bad gig on it and the quality of the sound and everything It's not class, it's not class Good out, what do you see looking after this what it's all about? So the Kelser effect where did the name come from? You can take that one Paul Kelser effect is like a theoretical kind of syndrome where there's so much debris in space that humans have created and what happens is that eventually at some point in the future it's going to start colliding with each other slowly over time what happens is it kind of starts cascading because once it starts it doesn't stop and the idea is that it's going to wreck a lot of technology and satellites we have in space so what we call is like a mass hysteria or panic or blackout here on Earth and someone mentioned to me years ago that the great name for a band was nice to say that we took a break for a couple of years you know when the nod is there and to get back together we needed something to kind of kick start us and I think someone mentioned the name Kelser effect as a band name I thought if that's going to be the name then we need to focus more on that sort of element that sort of space and time effect and that's where our new sound has kind of come from that you know it's kind of helped drive a lot of So Paul this sound does have one of this different than your previous sound before you took the break? It doesn't at EP it's very even to our previous two EPs that released under the Kelser effect name it's become more of our sound now gradually over time so there's a lot going on in that compared to like our last work you know Are you happy with the sound you have now? I am I like the direction especially there's a very distinct version of what we do live and what's recorded and that's kind of what I think we were going for with this one is to really do something that's very obviously recorded in a studio different effects and keyboards and stuff and then live have something different and there's two kind of dynamic contrast there but I think it works quite well in our favour You know I'm not amazing but I'm just I love the way you stick it really serious you know really but it's obvious that you do because you're not just firing a tune together and you know obviously your sound wasn't what you wanted priority breaking up and stuff like that but it's great that the sound you have is just amazing it won't last long Are you on social media or what were these you were on everything you can think of all in your Facebooks and your Instagrams and your Twitter and all of that and you're on all the streaming sites and Spotify and you might as well give a shout to the latest Irish one I don't know if you've heard of it Minim There's a new Irish streaming site Minim Minim Minim Minim and that's it's basically by the artist for the artist it's the most fair paying thing for artists at the end of the day we're not racking up hundreds of thousands of streams and we're not getting 800s of thousands of euro for it but it's one of those things when you put the effort into making your music you like to think that we appreciate it a bit more rather than 0.008 and you get from Spotify per stream so these guys Minim basically you get what you stream on there like so it's I want to check out it now just to see look it's small scale at the minute and it's pretty much just all Irish artists Spotify just seemed to have a monopoly they have the monopoly on it surely the thing about it is it's not a double aged sword I have like yourselves probably I have thousands and thousands of CDs and stuff you know so I don't feel as guilty about going on it now but in saying that it doesn't it doesn't benefit definitely not benefit financially but there's a spread you know do you see a benefit on it where your music can be heard from do you use there's a lot of analytics you can draw from we have I think since we released it on there our reach has grown a lot like you can see whenever you look at the statistics where people are sensitive around the world it's not just there kind of air don't go all though it's the UK it's the rest of Europe some people and it's one of those things you could argue the music we're playing is 40 years out of date you know the prog rock it had its high day in the 70s for the 80s whatever for us a lot of you see numbers coming in now you don't see massive numbers coming in but you see numbers coming in and they're people from Germany they're people from England they're people from different parts of continental Europe even America and that sort of thing and while you're not as I said you're not racking up tens of thousands of streams you're seeing different people interacting that's a positive side of it but there's a doubt and of course your music has gone out further I've always been very firmly of the opinion that I don't care about large numbers I care about consistent numbers so it's a case of you had them in here recently expedition in the young metal band I don't they're recording for them and I'm sitting down with them afterwards and just saying to them you could go to a gig tonight there might be 10 people there and the worst thing is you can get disheartened about it you don't get disheartened about it because you don't know who the 10 people are and if you impress them 10 people over 300 people don't care about you in a room you're onto a winner really at that that's a good point but I think the fact that you're would you think because you're more mature now in age that you're coming with a different sort of you're not wanting to be stars or you're not you know you haven't you have more appreciation you have more appreciation for what you're doing now because I still haven't Paul tell you loads of stories about you I was only on about it earlier on today do you remember when we played down in Mullingar didn't they nearly made him quit music we played a gig down in Mullingar and we were all 20, 21, 22 years of age and this idea is we were going around booking this tour of Ireland and we were going to do this and that and the other and we landed down to play in Mullingar in a venue down there and luckily we played a grand show for 20 or 25 people whatever it was and you go up afterwards and you clear out all your gear and you go up to the bar manager or whatever and say you're right you owe me money now for the sound man you didn't make enough money on the door to pay the sound man so you owe me money we're all 20, 21 years of age barely making money and you have to tour off to find an ATM up the street at one o'clock in the morning to pay the place that you've just travelled three hours to play so those sort of days look back in them now and laugh because it's a good story you look back in them now and you laugh and that's all you can do when we get to this age now and look for families and jobs you enjoy it better just enjoy it and you have an appreciation for it you can feel that Sophie loves the songs right final song for us yeah which one do we play, Tacoma? there's an instrumental so people don't have to listen but you're pointing it to a microphone this one is called Tacoma and it's Tacoma is a flower I believe it's not a flower actually so I don't really have a story behind this but this one is written by Paul he can explain it when you search Tacoma on Google you'll find a flower it might be a flower but it's not what it's from there's a book series called The Expanse that I'm a huge fan of and it's all based on space exploration and that's where a lot of the sounds on this are from there's a lot of delay and echo a big aspect on the record and Tacoma was able to plan out this planetary system within that world I won't go any further into it because stuff happens there I just thought it would be a spoiler to it I just thought it was a nice name for an instrumental for something I thought you know set that mood quite well what happens in the book good enough, well we'd love to hear this you can hit away thank you guys you're a class do you know what do you call about a space connection you kind of wear actually that's a good point on the album because there's so much freedom I took a notion about a week before we were kind of finishing it up I thought I wonder if we could put in some sort of you know radio static or sounds from NASA and I googled it and it turns out that they have like a free repertoire online of you know audio conversations both astronauts and stuff like this and satellite launches and spaceship launches and stuff and I thought yeah, I'm using this so I just created a bunch of nice ones and this added into the tracks and they sit really well on that one now on the track really really proud this is an absolute pleasure absolute delight having you in thanks for having me Gigan, where can people see I use a boat with them the next year you want to keep an eye on all these social media's and all that there and we're planning to do a couple of shows in October so we're planning Dairy, Belfast Dublin and Galway I think and we'll probably throw in something around Blair Kenney or Belfay or something and just a Kessler effect on Facebook Kessler effect on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and all your Spotify's and iTunes and Apple and YouTube and wherever you can well like you've got the sound you've really really nailed the sound pure class to listen to and I wish you well Paul and Ben and Nigel and Michael thank you very very much indeed thanks for having me do you need a little extra help staying in your home at Bluebird Care we offer a wide variety of Qmark approved personalised home 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