 everything here changes with one question. Right there, he has hesitancy. There's loss of fluency there. There's fidgeting physical signs of discomfort. Kayla's mom knows something and it is scaring him. And he has to take in this huge breath here just to speak at the mention of her name. He wants to flee. The mere mention of a woman's name sent him into fight or flight. He does something that innocent people do. Innocent people will try to redirect the conversation back to the original main topic, which would be his daughter in this case. He almost does this, but he's scared of bringing her back up.