 I think we go ahead and call the meeting to order. Okay, there's just a couple of things that we need to work on. So under old business, that actually needs to be moved to new business. We need to move the old house for this evening, because that was never discussed at a meeting prior to... But everybody knows about it. Yeah, I know, but we discussed it at the decorating thing, and that was one of the big things that we got in trouble for, that we would be doing business outside of working. And I don't want to be even accused of that. Is that for 4 to 530? 4 to 630. 4 to 630? Cool. Yeah, so the bottom line, we just need to move it to new business. Being sad. And then there was a couple of other things that about the... So can we go up, did everybody get a chance to read the past 4 minutes? Yeah. Are you okay? Yeah, I'm fine. I know, I'm fine. So I have one more person that somebody will ask, how did you get that? I'm okay. Oh boy, so did everybody get a chance to read the minutes? Yes. Is there any corrections? I did have one point on... I don't think I did. Just on the club survey questionnaire. Yes. GI. You mentioned that you suggested creating a selection process. And Karen created it. But I think they should mention, because I had some comments that I was concerned about the selection process. And I think that should be mentioned. I don't remember that. Oh yeah. I was saying that I was worried that because it's supplied by tax dollars. Right. We should not... We can't discriminate. We have to be very careful, but that wasn't mentioned here. I kind of think that should be... Just your statement that... You can say we can't discriminate. Ann suggested that we be very cautious, because this is a tax-supported option. You know, we can't discriminate against anybody. But really though, I mean, I didn't say this then, but just to throw it out. The only criteria we really shouldn't have is either residents of Boulder County. Yeah. I think that's an amount that's going to be addressed during the... But I mean, it was discussed. So we shouldn't mention... Well, in Boulder County or Longmont. Yeah. That's a problem. We can discuss later. We can discuss that. Yeah. So I don't think... Aren't typically all residents of Longmont. So the club should be based. I mean, that's a new discussion. But my discussion was... That because it's tax dollars that we need to be mindful not to discriminate. Yes. Including men. Yes. I just think that should be mentioned. But you did bring it up. Yeah. Okay. I'll do that. Okay. Thank you. So we'll do that correction. Are there any other corrections or concerns within minutes? Number one, public order. Instead of recreation managers. I don't really appreciate that. I have no way to... Probably just recreation staff. Maybe a little bit under... Since recreation managers sued out. And then... I'll just say manager. Yeah. You've been assigned to that way in previous minutes. But okay. I'll just... Just recreation staff. Staff staff. Yeah. You'd like to pay increase if you're in the list of the... In health of the holidays. Yeah. It's really wishful thinking. I hope you don't do that to me personally. Yeah. So any other corrections? Okay. I'm in one normal correction. And I'm only in our mission statement. I'm in the work community. But it's a lower case. So... Okay. I'll make that level on music. Yes. Okay. I'm here. You're here. Thanks. Thank you. Okay. So can I get a motion with the corrections made? To accept the minutes. Time of week. Except minutes. That's corrected. All the second back. All the day. I'm done. Okay. Great. It's been moved to second and go to the next. Before. There she is. Okay. Thank you. Are you going to correct this point? Yes. Oh, I love you. I love you. You're the best. And you. You're beautiful. I'm going back and forth. Oh, you got that question. We were just saying it. I saw the hands coming down. Just as I was... Fuck. In the rear view mirror? Like... In the rear view mirror is okay. Yeah. It's like... And then kind of work guide. Or it's like... From the other text. I was able to just cut down my... Other film. Yeah. Okay. So we just went out and... Oh, it's perfect, honey. It's a film. So... I guess we could take a break while Phil gets up the stairs and Kathy is down... Downstairs to... Did you see the little barista bar we got set up over there? Special serves and everything. Isn't it nice? Yes. So everything but the steamer and we are... We are just clunky-dorying. Clunky-dorying in some. No. That's not super fun. About the film. About the theme. And Allison sounded more important. Did you guys get the chance to look at... Whatever it was? Hello. Hello. Welcome. Hello. How are you? We're so excited about this. You have no idea. This is just... I was wondering if I was walking into a traffic school. Yeah, right. No, weird jazz. This is so great. And your timing couldn't have been better. You're right... You're right there. Yeah. Next item. So if you have this good of luck the rest of the day, you're set. Yeah. We'll get you right over here. Thanks. He's going to be. He's going to be anyway. So let me introduce myself. I'm Maureen McCoy. I'm the chair of the board. And the rest of the... You know Karen? Yeah. Karen Lee. Karen Lee. And Jannison. Right. And Anne. And Bonnie. So we're here. And then Sue Allen is part of the city side. Hi. That's Jackie. You're never with me. Yep. Sure do. I also have no idea how to jump right up. That doesn't connect. So my name is Space Systems. So should be ready to not be problematic. Right behind you. Right behind you. I'm going to just take a minute to come in. Yeah, I'm interested. Great sounds. Yep. So we'll be back. Where would you want me to be here at the head? So I don't have any sort of formal presentation. I just thought I'd show up and just talk about the process and answer questions. That's perfect. We'll see you as we... We're very excited about it. We can't wait to see what you've got. The report was very interesting. Yeah, okay. I always wonder like, this is how I understand things. Does it make sense to everybody else that's reading it? I know. Or is it just a bunch of like, what are you talking about? It's just that the screen may not be very helpful. Okay. For whatever reason it's not. Yes, I can see the bottom. I guess... Oh yeah. Which of the lights out? The whole screen? No. I had it all set and you saw it a minute ago. Yeah. It's almost like... It isn't bright enough. Oh, your paper's right there. Here. That's not the problem. I can always turn the screen around too if you want to just look at it. I want to just start with it right here. I see the... Yeah, it's just not bright enough. Is there somebody showing right now? It may be. All it's picking up is the... The bottom. The bottom, Mary. The bottom. Whatever reason. The toolbar at the bottom of the screen. I can start chatting. Basically all I brought here from the laptop is like the images of the samples themselves so you can see them in the larger detail. I'm not sure how super helpful that is, but I also brought all of the samples themselves. Like bottom of the process. I'll just go into the process a little bit. So you guys contacted me. I looked at the house, looked at the different sections of history that would be construction history I had. And then so I picked out a different element so I thought it would be useful for trying to figure out what the polychromatic scheme would have been if there is different periods that would be created. Can you reboot it? Sure. Sometimes when it's, when it's on, when you plug it in, it doesn't last very long. But it should show up, see if it's on. Come on, take a picture of that. There you go. That is really weird. It looks like it's got voltage. Do you normally have more than one screen? You know, honestly, this is a spare laptop that I just had. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. But technology's a little longer. I don't know. Yeah, I can tell that. I'm sorry, there's a way of just sharing this when you're reading. My kids know a lot about this. It's sharing the screen. It's just not saying you're right screen. Yeah. It's just like you've got voltage. Right. It's actually, if you don't use it and do it, it just doesn't stick. Yeah. It's just, my husband decided that we'll have a smart house. But he decided that Alex and he would turn on the TV, which got turned on to a tuner and the television and the Roku thing. So he named it theater. He said, yeah, it's just walling. I can just push a button and my TV comes on. Mine is on. Oh, shit, dude. Oh, no. There it goes. It's just not, it's just not, it's just not, but our neighbor has his phone and turned his shower on in the morning. Oh, yes. Is yours? Oh, no. Don't even suggest it. No. So what are you doing? All right, ladies and gentlemen. Is everybody on a chance to look at the report? I have not looked at it. Okay. Everybody's had a link to it for quite some time. Oh, okay. So I've got through the outside and these pages here, where I've got like the little numbers picked out like standing on the different elements I'm trying to look for. And then I get a little more from you guys. That is to go ahead with the process and I come out and I try to take a small sample as possible and come look at it under a microscope. I don't need to have a huge chunk of wood. So about the size of like a small fingernail and get it all the way down to the substrate. So that means I'm digging into the wood a little bit so that you know that you've got it all the way to the basis of layers. It works best. Obviously, when there's not that replacement pieces, which I think we found some pieces of it, the trim of gingerbread, the barge board is by the different elements for it. If I haven't replaced it over the years, it'll be stripped down there. So you can see that in the report, that there's one of the three layers of paint that's quite unoriginal paint layer. And then I cast it in a colorless resin, which is something more different than I do, but I take the little paint sample, stick it in there, and I use a series of grinding pads and I grind it down to about 6,000 grit. So this is a 41, this is so good. Try to polish the edge as much as possible so you can really see a smooth edge with that like a really great appearance to it. So when my light hits it, it's actually like what you'd be looking at and you're looking at the side of it. And then I use a 6,500K and you have lights on my microscope, so it's supposed to be daylight replicated to kind of get like the most exact color match as possible. Then the fun part is this book, which is the Munsell system, which is how I was taught in grad school. And it's basically a color system that has been established for well over a hundred years and colors are guaranteed to look the exact same year they did a hundred years ago, which is why when I specify this theoretically a hundred years if somebody says like it's a five R, five four, it's gonna look exactly like that no matter what. So this book is basically just tons and tons of paint chips arranged in a way where it goes from red to yellow with red and to yellow, to yellow with blue, green, green doesn't work for a little blue. And so you're just spending time flipping through the pages trying to find out one paint chip that exactly matches it under the microscope. So it's very like a very hands on way of matching paint colors. And I'll go through that with a zoomed in on a layer is just kind of go down through that layer to layer. Oh that's fun. Oh it does look like it. You got an image anyway. Yeah. Dying computer. What did you study in college to learn this? Undergraduate was Anthropology, which is such a useful career for finding a job. Yeah. Master's degree and historic restoration from the University of Vermont in 2005. And so there was a class on this and then it's basically become like you take that class you just keep doing it and doing it and eventually you get better at it. There's not a lot of really great classes out there like if you want to go out and say they're gonna like to learn how to do paint analysis. It's either a full on master's program or art conservation. You'll see a lot of people doing stuff like this with the fine arts. But obviously that's even more detailed. They're using like scan electron microscopes and X-ray fluorescence and stuff like that. So we're just worried about paint colors here. There's no need to charge like thousands of dollars in this handful. Which we appreciate. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there are folks that do that. But again, if you're just looking for the colors and if it has lip paint or not, I can do that pretty easily. And then there's like a whole like I say another level of education if you want to get to. Okay. Like you know what exact element was used to create this color. Was it a something out of the broth in a certain part of the country if that's where the thing and it's great. But it's like to what extent do you really want to know that? How in depth do you really want to know that? Yeah. Especially for the students. Right. And I think we saw, I had to reread my report real quick because it's been a few little bit of time. But there was that early period and the house was built in 1892. And you guys can certainly correct me if you guys would be able to. 1892. You got it. Yeah. I said 1882. That's the first sound of like from here. 1892. The front section of the house there. Now it's not this block here, but it's just that section up there. And it looks like they had a bit more, of course I think, a bit of a block and one. But a bit more of a brownish color. I think that actually pulls them up now. For whatever reason, it's only mirroring them. This way. If you pull up what's on your flash drive, on your screen it'll show up there. Yeah. My screen shows nothing here. It's a blue screen. And this is this. I'm not sure exactly how to put this. This is a red screen. You can watch it. I can't write this. Yeah. I don't know what's going on with these markings. So there was the biggest couple layers. I think we saw a few of the samples, that it was just a couple layers of brown. And it was mostly a monochromatic scheme at that time. And there was like a black layer, which I'm presuming was probably a primer. So it's very thin. And you start seeing that the colors that were later on in the years, it's more like a orange and off-orange, brown and off-orange and all that. So these colors seem like they made any sense to you guys or was that weird? This looks interesting. Yeah. Because where we're at today, so I think the curious thing would be kind of from that time period of the edition in 1906, I think it'd be interesting to know what kind of coloring it was that in that year. Right. And left that kind of period. And just that's really kind of the focus to get back to and then the discussions within the fleet, that the objective for the grant was to bring the pain to a significant period of time. And that significant period of time was when the Falcons did this massive edition to the home. So I think that it's something that would be like interesting to show everyone what color that was very timely. Because he went to us, so I don't know what to do. Okay. Sorry about that. I have no idea. Because it's something for a little longer. Because of how the grant's written and because of what we're doing with the windows and everything else, we're trying to keep it at a certain time period. And I think that's kind of where we're at. So it sounds to me with the brown, it's what they could get and that's what they used. And again, that was before the edition and everything was gone and that was the original ones. So. But they gave it to us in 1938. So really we could look at any other colors between 1906 and 1938 and they were all picked out by the Hellhands. So any one of those, they might be better than the original. Yeah, they're still, I mean, Hellhands put them on there so they had some say and it's not like the city came in and painted it that color. So. But the focus was to go to a significant period of time. And that was something that we was very specific about. But it could be 1938. Yeah, that's a sound. We picked 1906. That's why the Hellhands may not have liked that color. That's why they were painted it. It was just in their house. It was in their house. When they did the edition, of course, they made the uniform to everything. And I think that is a significant period of time that we're looking to. We could leave it open for a second. We certainly can leave it open. But I think that's just why. I think we get to decide if we like the color. Right. And if it will wear well. If it truly is a really dark color, that may not be a good choice in the interest of not painting every two years or four years. But we need to think about that. Yeah, yeah. And in their circumstance, I think it would be helpful to know options of colors through the years. And then we can present them to animals if you suggest you really want to do the right thing by just recolorate what would be acceptable to them. So. The recommendations, I think we take it all in. I, again, I agree, we don't limit ourselves. But I also know paint is so much better than it used to be. And even if we go with a dark color, I have a dark forest green this last time forever. It just depends on where it is and what type of paint they're using. So, again, I think it's open for discussion and we just keep it as open as possible. And then. Well, more certainly not going to make a choice at any time. Well, soon. Because they're not going to paint till it's warm up to paint. Right? What? Yes. Especially at least 50 degrees. Or, I want a mouth therapy and then let's raise it cold. Having it bubble, this is frozen. Mm-hmm. So I was just picking these guys out. So I think the front porch up there in its final form was the 1904, 1906. 1906. Okay. Now that one there was a white base layer which is pretty common for a primer. It wasn't super thick. And then you have like this orange and brown sort of color scheme, which is what the rest of the house was basically at that time. So it looked like that was like all part of the same color scheme at 1906. This is the 1906, at least at that point, from 1890 to 1992. This is the oldest color scheme, which is just like this thing that's brown. Wow. That's like that whiteish brown. This is kind of the original. Yeah. I didn't see like a lot of variation in colors. So I think that was like all the trims, all the sort of brownish color. That's what I wanted to mention. I have to say. Like base, and this would be like, the brighter color is the highlights, essentially. So you got that scheme going on. Basically for everything else. The body and the light. Correct. Yeah. So the body is the lighter color, I think in my, you know, the, how easy it was to get, what kind of paint colors could you get? Right. In this area at the time. And they were using the, That's a lot of stuff. Yeah. A lot of stuff. I think that's a trend that I believe is the dark. To me, it's just, They are saying, a lot of banding heroes. Is this history? It is history. It is history. It's history. It's history. The little mouse we've worked with in the past. The gins they had to go check for color. Yeah, I was very curious. I wanted to see the other colors. Yeah. You guys all familiar with the taper opera house of the mudmill? Yes. So I did an exterior analysis there too. And the taper is only for a short period of time. I do more about years than I sold in someone else. And what we found there, pretty similar to the colors you got here, is that the base layers were all very like leathery brown-y colors. It's really surprising because it's a little bit of red and green for so long. And the prevailing idea at the time is that the tappers were trying to make lead building more sophisticated high-end, plus there's more of like a mining town. And so the brown-er colors were supposed to seem like stone to make it look like it was this monumental building that was supposed to be an opera house. So you go there for culture and enlightenment. And that lasts for about five years. And I'm like, red and green. Red and green. Anything. Yeah. It's like the interesting fill sign. You go back to what the original color was for, even though they were over there for five years, or you go for what people have known for over 400 years, which is like the red and green look. I believe they're going for the red and green look, but I don't think they had a change. Yeah. So these are terribly unfamiliar colors to me in terms of the scheme for the time. I've been trying to get, I guess it's a refined house, it's a no-garage. Right. It's got some details that we all like because I was talking about it at the time. It's a little bit more muted because we're a very fancy family. They're trying to be sophisticated. Do you want to turn it off again? Sure. Sorry. I think that's the case. They're a friend over sophisticated. I just don't want to rush your question. I mean, every time that you've researched about them, and you've done that, it's all about being modern, sophisticated. You almost heard the answer. The it's family, you know? Especially in the 1906 by 1897 period. It goes towards the end of the Queen Anne romantic, so it might have been like, wow, we want to distinguish ourselves from some of the other styles from the last two or three years. It wasn't real ginger ready, but you know, the early big time. Not a lot of scroll work, more of the implied chevrons, which is the bars and the bars and stuff. Yeah, they didn't have the gold walls, like Molly Brownhouse, I guess, did they? Right. Yeah. If you think about it, it might have also been more of your colors that have the windows and the decoration of the windows, you know, that's true. And that's also beautiful. Let it windows, you know? So I was saying you got in front of the color scheme of like, I don't know, the house was in its final form. Yeah, it was like 1906. Yeah. I haven't visited it for a long time. I haven't, but it's the 1906 time of each week. And so the fact that that's been an accountant did this addition. Right. And that's when everything, what if they come here uniformed? And the interior to the leather team, the Jesus. The interior of the issues is all my fault. You know, it's a whole problem. Every 10 years, you've got like a whole new scheme. Yeah. Yeah, this used to be two rooms here. You can see where it was in the original house. This is the new part that was in this section of the year. It was, you know, the son's bedroom, right over here. You're right. Yeah. And Allison's. It's going to be here, right? Yes. Who doesn't? Yeah, the thing, well, it was removed shortly after it was given in 1938 so that they could have a larger meeting. And then there's some part cave with the flooring room. Yeah. Right. There's a door. Yeah, because there's a door on it. Actually, in the booting, there's another. I'm still thinking. Yeah, he has pictures of it. I've seen the floor. I didn't know where it was. Which would make sense because then this, we had a hall and one. So there's two strips of parquet on each side of the door. I don't know why it's not sound. Sure, there's not on this wall. Yeah, it didn't make sense. So they took out, there must have been like, they could have had two of these. What might be on the support? Let me, this was the support. I think that this is the back wall. Yeah, these are there. That's a way here. Walls there. This is the original weight-bearing wall of the back wall of the mansion house. And so this would have just been a wall, it was a wall, it was just pretty good. But that makes perfect sense that with you, if you consider lack of lighting and having that very good and self-facing that would be a good watch. Actually, it has a pretty light into that. Yeah, a little bit more. Like to protect you from problems. Yeah. It's restarting again. So cool. Yeah, you did well. Yeah, you did well. That was the next step that we and Steph felt was real interesting since very early on. It was for a long time. And then those handy colors, you know, and then the strong, powerful, and I've seen them all over the world. These things that we actually have, we've had a long conversation, and we've been recording stuff, and you know, it's just for your conversations. Yeah. Finding it, I mean, because you're sponsoring it on the way out. Yeah, I think that's a rush level. I got it. Oh, sure, oh, oh. This is like right now, right now. Right now, exactly. But yeah, you're listening to this. From, yeah. Later on. Later on. Yeah, I think that would change out. It was pretty good. I wish you'd have one of those. This one's pretty good. Sure. You can see there, what I'm really good at. I didn't say that they went for this. Yeah, so I'm going to put it on here. I'll pull up that ring to show you. It's really interesting. It happens all the time. We go from writing, reading, reading, writing. I've seen so many good things that was impressive. I've seen so many good things. Yeah. I know, but that's what I've done. We've always done this, and I told everyone. I said it looks like, you know, that Christmas ribbon to me. Yeah. So yeah, I'm going to put it on here. I'll go back to the room. I'll be there. I'll be back. Thank you. So much. Yeah. I'll be back. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I'll be back. I'll be back. I'll be back. I'll be back. So I'm going to have to do a sketch with this. It's going to be fun. Yes. I think it's one of those things that happens in more works and it's more than just a sketch. Yes. And I've got to get down in the wrong. So you're not going to be here. Yes. The episode is going to be. Yes. For what? For what? For what? For what? For what? For what? For what? For this card. This card. All right. So the body. Could you tell everybody what you were just telling Marine about the Queen and Victorian... Oh. So the balcony of the vault also- So that Victorian stuff was. Which was, In very muted tones in these terms, Like this terracotta, Stone and then they would trim it out similarly similarly in some families so that was surprising but it's not surprising because it goes with that whole thing and you know the wood clapboard kind of gingerbread houses you know with the real feel for the gingerbread stuff they were the ones that were those bright purples and peats and you know the bright colors and like a toy house gingerbread again yes, yes, yes, shields but stone house or a brook house was a little bit more sophisticated so what they did so what they did from you know the original to 1906 to kind of the next it went to this green so which is the body and which is the trim so these are the shingles on this little balcony over here so here's the wood of the shingles here as you can see all the cells of the wood and you had a couple of years maybe of that orange then a couple years of that like green white for the rest of the time and 1978, it's right around here somewhere that's about the best I could do in terms of like what time spring would happen and you got some test positive for lead lead was out all in 1978 for use of paint so test positive erotically, this is 1978 could you pass the other color? so originally, yes, for the original green the one that goes with the green it doesn't go with the green, that's the significant color change this is original to pass this is 1906 and that's the shingles and that's the next significant color change these are shingles also that's the next significant color change what it went from to self fill but there wasn't a different trim color let's see the trim color doesn't be on the shingles over here the lower trim color was around the shingles good morning, dad the lower trim color shingles here we had it was wonderful by the way orange and green, it looked like they kind of fall at the same pace yeah, it was fun, it was great it was so much fun you kind of lost teasing and up into the 5G and I said I'll never get out and then pour two waters and the kids were really worried about it the trim below the child balcony over here that's the shingles that we got there this is the trim below the shingles it's dark green and light green they kind of differentiate so the body that has the lighter green and the trim with the darker green the body of the shingles I'm not sure what you're referring to the shingles on the outside just the scales they were the lighter green so that right, so it looks like they went from a lighter orange to a brighter orange originally 1906 or so and they went from a light green as the body and the darker green as the highlight that's what I was trying to ask is there a way to tell the age you're like no that's the trick, if it tells positive for lead I know it's 1978 or before oh okay so you can't really you can just tell from the leaders they can always use lead so sometimes in a burial that's clean and it's like there's a number of times when it's but does the condition of the pink and that's a positive if it's super exposed it's really hard to draw it's going to be a lot of work it's going to be a lot of work it's going to be more difficult that's when things like this game give you a better idea like exactly where elements were used to make this and get better ideas and so did you find four layers with the totally different quality so let's be a the old layers, at least one, two, three does he have to paint them all when he doesn't use them Yeah, so you can see like the layers of dirt. Well, they store the top of the dirt. They didn't have power washers or what? Here you're supposed to clean everything off and get it ready for paint, but typically this is the softest one. Oh boy. Do you like those questions against whites? I just want to take a picture so I can really talk about it. Sorry for my butt in your face. Here, let's put it on the white so you can get a look. Yeah, it's cool. It's white. I need to do it. Do it. So you can order drawdowns from the one sale company, which is basically just a piece of paper and a half by 11 sheet for that one color. It's like 30 or 40 dollars per sheet. For those like guaranteed shelf-stable images. So if you want to, you can go on credit sheets. They change every time they load new software. My camera changes. I heard that. Customer service is a bit different lately. Yeah, it's been much. So that's why I provide the... Here's the closest available commercial and actually paint. If you want to be like 100% exact, contact me and I can bring that paint chip to you. Thank you. Thank you. Sorry. On your phone. This looks about to make 100 dollars. That's not actually this thing in the world. Hey, I thought so too. How much? What? Around $2,500. Investment in your expertise, right? Yeah. Well, this one. So this is the trim on this. It's not going to be over here. It's a long machine. Yeah. So we have the orangey color that we talked about. That's the original. They had a bright red and something like that. And they had a green that we were just talking about. And they had a green-green scheme going on. And then they had like a pinky color and a less pinky color that went to orange and then dark brown. So you can see they really went through a lot of fluctuations here. But I can't really tell you later. 100% this color layer matches up with just another color layer from a different sample. You can count layers, but they painted one thing and they didn't paint the other thing. The other ones are all. I like that that chip display. It gets a lot easier to see than the sideways one. Yeah. Is that cut at an angle at that time? Right. So here, it's like you're looking at the hot paint like this. It's like you hit the side wave and chopped it in. Right. It's going to be side angles. So here's the cells of the wood. This is the first layer of paint. It's the substance of the wood. Out of pure curiosity, what would the red be? Could you choose a chip? Sure. The red that looks pink, which red? No, the one for the green. Right. The one for the green. The one for the green. The one for the green. My choice could be for Christmas or something. Yeah. I've just seen that really thick layer that looks pink. That's only a little. Those are all red. The one to the other is the green. Yeah. It's just very long. Maybe they put that on and said, oh no. That's exactly it. It's like, what were we thinking? Yeah. The whole interior of my first house that we built the wrong color and walked into my house again So it's another another shape for us user a little bit They're being custom-made Can I ask you a question on Since a green layer is so much thicker than the red that's directly under it Would that indicate that the green might have been there and they paint they like this or they painted it again Is that what it's bigger? That could be the Person in the red layer just gave it one coat and they called it good Could be the proper job on the green it could also mean that they went back and did it a couple times Trying to sometimes you can see a dirt layer. So I said it typically don't clean the paint as well as they should So sometimes you can see a little layer in there I could try to pull it back up again The thing of the layer usually means Except for something like this where you can tell that this is kind of slopped on their head like You know there's a drip that's settled there. This is a very very tiny little section of the paint but that little drip could be quite large on the screen That's really cool it is So interesting The acrylic makes it a lot easier like when I was taught in grad school It was like help some wax and set your sample on there and try to basically just scrape it relatively across the edge to see if it didn't get me It was like you can't really see too well, especially on a microscope your depth of field is very precise It has to be going up and down all the time to see if you can see all the different layers of this I was kind of grinding flat, polishing down to about 6,000 grit Pretty clean, you can still see little ridges here on the microscope but that's probably 250 milification stuff And that's the dark green right? Um the darkest green you've got Yeah, yeah the dark dark one Yeah What does the lighter green look like in these samples? Getting this one all the way up here No the one that went that you thought went with the dark green I just wanted to see the chip for the other color green This is the lighter green that showed up around the house during that time here So it would be those two greens Do you have the chip though? Can you show us the picture? The picture of the fetish Uh for which particular example is For both the lighter green For chip Sure Let me google it, my team should have that Sorry, I don't understand your question That's okay Yeah Where's the lighter green right about here on this? Oh, okay, there it is But you can tell not a huge amount of time it was spent on these bright green Majority of times By the way some of these yellows Most of the binders back in the day were linseed oil And over time linseed oil was yellow So this might have been a little bit brighter But they weren't painted really off-white A little brighter white It's a simple HD yellow It would be nice to know Say it's like to make it 4 years 5 years Cycle paints by in 5 years Is there any major happening with the family? We have no idea Unfortunately That's what they're starting to get Yeah 1902, right? It's the first time We're getting there There was a lot of stuff I was just going to say that you saw more Well, arts and crafts was coming out Yeah So I'm trying to think if there's any of those How I'm going to make them feel like they're great It's the black and the white It's just a little more of a white just to be boring style So I'm just going to turn to the brighter color The brighter white It's just a little bit more Did you happen after 19? That's when it was in the teens You had parties So most of these lights Were all of solid Of the Calhoun's purchase They were present They were present They were light-based Because of the colors That were used out of this night Actually These first, especially where we all want To be straight and positive Are you selling them all white And put that on the chip It's lead So it happens pretty rapidly If you look at the report By layer it said whether It was light-painted or not Right The latest could be in the teens Well, it depends It's one of those off-wall People want to go out and stockpile Because they like the base paint So it could be used for many years For as long as it paints it For circa 1978 So it could be the last Yeah, it's pretty difficult The first layer It seems like it's actually explored In 1978 and everything else In the twins Somewhere between creation And everything's NBA 1938 For the purposes of the recording Can we ask one question at a time And get an answer into having sidebar conversations Because the recording is just going to be all this battle So Did you have another question here Is there any I think this answers All the yellow And white Is there any other community color After the greens I think the most significant color schemes Are going to be the Orange and brownie color scheme And the green color scheme For example There's whites But I think honestly Lots of orange and brownie ingredients And Connie, you said that the Brown, orange, green Browns and stuff were pretty typical Of the way Right, I would not be surprised To see those colors in one of those Can they take a black and white picture From what's on the early pictures In the house In the computer Then by the black and white image Can they generate the actual colors They can guess if you have a reference color Like here's something that's still on the house You know the color of it Because I used such a color in that I've been trying to reference all the different Grays based off of that color I didn't know if they had it It made me wonder though The stationery that Tom used With his thank you letter Is it 39, 39, 39 What How is the house Trampling that picture It doesn't show the house It's just the garden It's just the garden I always think it had a little bit Of a house It's literally pointed out towards the garden I guess from a black mind You could tell it was a dark color See that's a color That's why I was asking I don't remember, I don't even know How to do that You basically were looking at the garden From the south Looking at my books And stuff I did not bring anything That's this picture That's right here There's no The house isn't in it I thought with computer technology They could pull up the colors If they were Yeah They didn't take pictures of the house See what you're thinking is The house is a different From the garden There is What you're thinking is What you're thinking is Okay I was just wondering What is What are all the pictures They're all black It's not It's quite a Quite a torsler I don't see where to have It's not in It is Yeah Mine The л It does have a house My Here It's not The house This is the carriage barn It's large board Fuller's Eye And I'm seeing the same colors on the carriage house as the 1906 colors. And it's not the Korean Internet too, that's not the place. Who pulled that horn to pull that brown? Oh, the orange. Yeah, so it's like the orange scheme was on the carriage barn at the same time. I don't think so either. Which I don't. Wow, I'm sure. They were being moved forward. Yes, they were. One thing is that you know that I haven't seen as much as the 1970s. Well, that's my second one there, so I think you did a great job this year. But I'll just say, I don't think that they did. I'm just going to say, I think that would be a original interview. Yeah, so they might not have a video. Right. And I think that I have a few more. Basically, yeah, they do an orange scheme and then say they didn't like it and switch over to green. So then they switch again pretty quickly after that as well, so. It's not something you can talk about. It can take a long time. Exactly. Here's a photograph of like the point at the walk of breakfast. It's kind of good example of the contrast of the trim. It's very definite contrast, dark and white right there. Yeah. I think you can get that kind of contrast with the color you've got here too. I can't quite say that's the language one it is, you know? Yeah. And so if you just pull that out. Yeah. Yeah. It's like white pictures. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But they're kind of crazy. He's always pink faces. Yeah. I think the whole point of this is trying to pass it around. Yeah. Hold on to it. That's really, and it's got the covers too, which are very cool. I think it's important that we do the storage, but we also need to make sure that it's. Yeah. And then you have to use the stomp. I think it's the color. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. The parameters are sparking. Because they share the code of grit, right? I think that you can answer this one. But they can be bad with color. No. How they feel or why it's moving is this. It's a great question to hear. I don't think they have a lot of battery. Yeah. But it's a little more yellow. Yes, I think so. Oh my god. The colors are a lot more yellow. It's a lot more yellow. It's a lot more yellow. It's a lot more yellow. But we should move this one. So what are we talking about now? What I asked, though, is for the whites, obviously white and varying in whites, what is the closest white that would be appropriate to kind of identify with any event that would, you know, with greens and one of the third color that would be white? Which white would that be? So in other words, if we wanted to do the bull's eyes, do the trim and the dirt green and do something different, well, although we could pull out the reds, too. The oranges. Yes. Yes, but I just, since we've got those here, I didn't find them. I'm sorry. I just didn't get you. They're so heavy. They're so heavy. They're for whites. They're for you. Yeah. You know, and it would, I just thought it would seem appropriate to find out whites since we've got the new 10 colors, what would be an appropriate white if we wanted to include... You said it's a trim color or a detail color. Yeah. So this is the shade of the next shade lighter, the light. Okay. So this is probably, you know, the age, then COO. This is probably about as close as I can get. Okay. So what are you saying is based on your cream, you found on some of these, this kind of more yellowy white is what should have been, that could be due to age. Yeah. And so to start with this one, as a cleaner white, more like what would have been used. Phil, can you, when you get home, can you put those on a sheet of paper and write down the actual colors alongside them so that when we get to the point where we're... Well, but that's not going to help us mix paint. So you have the formulas for the paint colors. Is that correct? Yes. To get those colors. Can you just give us a report on that? We don't need to do it today. I can just... There's actually a picture on the grass. I'm just going to make sure... I'm actually going to make some use of it. Yeah. I was going to say, I think I gave the color orange, but I can certainly do the same with the green. And the white, at least. And the white. Yep. And then would you pass that around so everybody can see it? What did you see in this report? I sent it as a link in one of the manager's reports and I honestly don't know. But I can resend the link. Would you let me do that? Please. I didn't go right with that. It was in a report. It was in a report. I missed it. I missed it. Okay. Easy. Easy. It's a self-propelled photo. So that's fine. I'll just resend it. So at this point, does anybody else have any more questions at this point in regards to the presentations? I have one question. Did you get your check? Sure. Good. Thank you. That's a big one. That's a big one. Yeah. This is fascinating. What's that about? Yes. Do you have any questions for us? I don't think so. We've got the orange colors coming out here, a match at least to a commercial color. I can also do the RGV code, the C and YK code. You can take all those things to A. Sherman Williams, probably. So if you could give us a close for that, that would be amazing. And it would move us one step closer to having the appropriate information for the contractor. I can find the closest currently available match. But you'd like it. I can always really assemble by some point too. You can just take them to Sherman Williams and say they make me a custom match. They'll completely match. They'll just make this. Yeah. I'm sure they'll just do that. Yes. I had to do that on several occasions. I didn't have a hard time finding the right contractor to find. It's a shadow from the camera. Oh, wow. It's the purple. I hate holding it. You can't see the real colors. You can't bug you. That would be great. If we could get it in one shot. So, Kevin, do you think that would be the best option for you is if he brought the chips, we took them and then we had a match right off of that rather because he's saying that it's going back and forth a lot on those colors. Let's just discuss how we're going to do it once we get to that point. We're certainly not there yet. So, you and I can paddle up all about how to handle it. And no matter what, they're not going to be exact, right? We'll get close. Well, they don't have the length in them. So, there you go. And honestly, once they're on the house, nobody's going to bring that chip and go like this. They'll bring a lot of help. You never know. You guys might. I'm not going to. I will. That's the most accurate way to do it. For a lot of the closest and partial matches, basically, I don't feel like going to the ass and then it's kind of like getting close. And this is going from oldest to... Yeah, orange is the oldest. And I think bottom line, it's all about art and showing to the... I still call it that. Well, I'll have a discussion about it. So, we're going to try to do that and not be worried that we're going to move on to listen. Thank you, Bill. So, let me have a couple of questions. As I said, if you have any other questions, I'll pop up to go along and just let you know. So, we're going on to the managers, the house managers, the point and Kathy will be right. Well, it's a busy month. We had three revenue events, which is an unusual number of revenue events for November. They all went quite well. We did a bunch of weddings. Two weddings and a birthday party. And I got to shut this down so that he can kind of splash right back. So, I'm going to do that for you. That fades them. So, it was a busy month. We're also doing a lot of lucky lose for events for next year. Nothing really. It was just busy. Nothing really. The only thing I didn't put there was club renewals or chugging along. So far, I know all of our clubs are really helpful. Oh, one last question. Do you want all the paint chip samples in the future if you have somebody else that wants to research them? They're already very case-to-reson. Yes, please. Here's the sample remainder of the samples that I haven't passed and present, but they're all labeled. It's kind of a mixed box. There you go. Thank you. I guess the only other thing I mentioned is we're up to 16 revenue events for next year, which is probably the most I've ever had in coming into the new year. So, I think that's the idea again. I think that's very encouraging for next year. People are feeling like they can really plan. Well, the other comment I would have for the most part, it seems like people are reducing the sizes of their weddings in particular and going for more meaningful, smaller events, which is really good for us. So, our sweet spot, I think, is 75 and under. I also picked up another March wedding another end of the way. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you so much. It was great. So interesting. No problem. Great. Lots and lots of interest. Is there anything particular? Did everybody have, first of all, did everybody have a chance to read the report? Do you have any questions? I just want to know how that wedding went when it was such a cold day. Yeah, we did it all inside. And it was beautiful. It was, interestingly enough, probably one of the most meaningful vow exchanges I've ever seen. Wow. They were so in love and so sincere and they wrote beautiful vows. She actually has a background in great writing and their vows were gorgeous. Yeah. So, if Dr. Rodney and Mom worked in the door and she said, she looked at them and she said, I hope we're doing this all inside. So, we did it all inside. Well, I thought about that. But they all did it all inside. No, no, no. We did it right there where the screen's at. It did good. That's great. It was lovely. Great. I have a few questions. Okay. So, the PEOC chapter, J.H. and Friday that's listed here, that was nice. You haven't missed out to the side of the club? They are a club. They're not a house club. They're not a house club. Okay, fine. And then the Domino Group, first. Is that a name or a return? It's the same people on a different day with different members. So, the core, the two or three members who formed that club wanted to do it twice a month, but not everybody is signing up for both dates. So, I'm treating it like two different clubs because it's going to be different people on different days. Okay. I have to answer. Returning, but a different membership. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's an expansion slash new club. Okay. Okay. Well, that's good though. And then the other new club is the Torquette Book Club. And they're new. What's that acronym? It's the Corvette Club. The Domino Group came from the Corvette Club too. The Mexican Domino Group. What do they do? They just play dominoes. Mexican train dominoes. Mexican train dominoes. Yeah. The Mexican train. The Mexican train. Texas 42. I always played 15. Yeah. They have a really good time. So, how many members are in each of those new returning groups? So, you've got the Domino Group. The Domino Group has a membership of about 10. At the moment, I don't know exactly what the second group is going to be, because they're still forming and paying dues. So, I don't have, it's seven or eight. And the Torquette Book Club is about eight. Nice. They're both fairly small, but they're nice, they're nice sized clubs for us. And Torquette Book Club is meeting on Thursday for the rest of the year, but they're going to start meeting on Tuesdays in 2023. Okay. And then, do you think, I know they have their club activities, but do they have any film profit interest or community activity? I don't ask those questions. And then for the registration for San Open House, how many reservations were there? I didn't tell you about it, but I haven't done it yet. We had 232 people come, and we had a few no-shows, but it wasn't very good. I used to text with Sam about how she marked up the sheets. I haven't had a chance to do that. I think it's neat though that we received $185 in donations. It isn't anything. It's amazing. And we had one little girl try to pluck a $5 bill and take it home. She was kind of sitting out of the slides and she reached up and she went like this, and then she received all the money. And I went, ooh! I should ask about that when they take it out. We had the usual Santa that we're going to have here. Yes, to Pete. We had the original that we had. We had him at our church on Sunday, but we also had like 150 kids sign up. And then after that, they got to go and shop for their siblings and parents, and then there was a wrapping room. I mean, they had to still organize. It was amazing. He was doing good. He's doing much smaller than us. Yeah, because he had to walk to the door and put his throat there. Okay, one last thing. So, do either of us have to start saying anything? I don't know if you'll know or not. No, I don't think so. You don't think so? I mean, they're based out of the Corvette Club. Yeah, that's a problem. That's right. And it is. And then when are the interviews scheduled for the brand? The interviews have been completed. Oh, okay. And then are we expecting Harry and Ozzy to come back? At the moment, there's nothing scheduled. Can we bring something since you've gotten interviews. What's the next step? I mean, when there's a decision, if we want them to come back, we can certainly schedule that. We were not anticipating a decision until after the first of the year. We were not anticipating a decision regarding the choice of... A contractor. Wow, I guess we're still in the manager's report. We're also doing old business A apparently. Well, I'm just on the report. And what I read, I just had those two questions. So, just the contractors will occur after the first of the year. After the first of the year? That's what we're committed to because of policies. So, do we have any more questions or concerns in regards to the house manager's report? We're on the report itself and financials. Honestly, if we could move... And the Callahan House annual report is a different... That's a different subject. And so, we're just on the report itself, the house manager's report itself. Do we have any questions on the financials? Let's move on. What are the... Should we have more members that are listed in the tours of the house that are blocked on page two? That's right. Can you send me which page you're looking at? The Callahan House... I'm looking at page two. What are those numbers for? If you look at the next sheet under special events, they're all listed. So, we did a tour for a birthday party. We did a tour for a graduation. We did a tour for a 2023 welcome party. We did a tour for a choir practice. So, those four consisted of ten members of our attendees. Yes. Since you've also added the holiday open house December 14th under Open House's new tour, can you add Eric Mason's historic walking tours as a separate one? I'll do that for next year. Yeah. One of the last questions, coming back to our year-to-date revenue, is there's year-to-date expenses? Revenants listed as one-to-one approximately as a date. And then expenses at one for a week, and so that gives a balance of about $12,750. That is kind of an approximate amount that would be put into the Callahan's fund at this time. And actually the numbers are much more correct on this sheet, which shows that we're a little under $20,000. And honestly, that's going to go down a little bit because this is a free paycheck month. So, my guess is the number is going to be closer to $15,000 or $16,000. Thank you. It's been good year. So, you've gone through the financials about the energy report in my community house managers' reports. Can you cover any of the questions? Okay. I need a motion for accepting the house managers' report. Can I get a second? All in favor? Okay, moving on to old business. The status of the grant, we kind of covered a lot of the grant issue with some of the questions, but do you have any more information? No. That's pretty much where we're at. The interviews are complete. We're meeting again to talk about scoring, and we probably won't make a decision until after the first of the year. Okay. Is there any way that, because I know these people are very busy, is there any way that we could add them to our, that our manager, I'm sorry, who I'm from, the Callahan House Board meeting point, if we could get them on the calendar. So these people know that we'd like to see them get some oil. Who's them? Are you trying to carry in on some? Carry in on some. We'll add them when it's appropriate. I mean, when there's news, we'll figure out that it's appropriate to have it in the meeting. It's a decision, it's right to occur. And then it would be reasonable to, I mean, there comes a genuine meeting that's early enough in January before it comes to the meeting. And that's fine. Let's just see how it shuts along, the decision. And if it seems like it's appropriate, you and I will discuss it and add it to the agenda. Moving on to the, we also discussed by going over, again, sorry, I apologize. I had a mind block moment. Anybody else have any questions in regards to moving on to all business B open houses? The Santa Open House we discussed in the house managers report, but I did want to comment quickly that I thought it was a wonderful event. I thought it was really handled quite well and lovely and it was cold, but I think it went remarkably well and I do like how it went, but I think for next year we should take Anne's suggestion and look at putting it possibly in the auto house and then having the house open here for additional views for the historic tour and decoration. I really have a serious objection to putting it in the auto house because if the weather is bad we have no way to make a safe entrance to the auto house and we don't have any way to know that until we're close. The driver is like a slip and slide. It is. The north side is particularly bad. It's really bad. I collect water and I'm really... Yeah, I really have an objection to putting it in the auto house and I'm sorry, I know that's been your dream, but I really do not want to, I really don't want to commit to that and I think it's unsafe. And honestly, I think the coordination to get people from the house into Santa becomes way more difficult. I think having a separate open house for just decor is the way to go. And I perfectly agree with that. Okay. I hear your concerns and I appreciate the safety issue. I can't really have a perfect world just to make it so there's no ice anywhere. I don't know how to do that. Even if we don't have bad weather if we've had bad weather, it's... It's dangerous. When it comes to a safety issue, people first. So it's my only question for you. Okay. That being said. But I do have to say that while we have these reporting addresses how kids enjoy the city and that, we also enjoy learning about the history of the house. I thought they were very receptive and very interested and we tie it in like, you know, J.C. Kinney and he got this start and said, guess what? He came to Lawnmine. I guess where his first business was. I think my point was that... And did you know? And they just went, oh, that's interesting. And there were several really excellent questions. My point was that the way we've done it, now we have extra open houses that solves the problem, but basically the Santa was the only open house we have in December and the only people that have to come with families with kids, we had right now, we didn't let other people. So that's how I dealt with them over there and things like that. But I can see your point. The other thing I think is it was really smooth. People almost didn't have to wait. In fact, some people walked in the door and walked through Santa. The parents were so appreciative. And that's why we got so many donations is because it wasn't the usual of standing in line for two hours to see Santa for 10 seconds. And Pete did an amazing job again. He was phenomenal and the one kid that showed up with a notebook of written questions, oh my gosh, he was just right on point and I'm just like... There were a couple of times I had to walk out of the room so I could laugh. And he even got the teenagers to smile and be part of the picture. And it was really... again, it was a fabulous thing. I just want to comment on how nicely done it was. It was really well done. That's the part why I was asking about how many were registered. Did we have a blue box? Did we have no shows? Because in your point it says we could have taken a few more on. And that's a great idea. I will certainly analyze that. I need to talk to Sam about the list. It looked to me like we had a few no shows, but what it looked like to me was people found out about The Open House Tonight and Veilt because we had a lot of single adults not show up. And a lot is not a lot but we had several maybe ten single adults just not show up. And they just said, oh, I'll just go on for 14. So we only had one or two families that didn't show up. And in the broad stream of things I still think we did a good range of numbers and it wasn't 600. We did more than last year. And it wasn't much smoother. It was very smooth. It was very smooth. It looked to me like Sam kept track of when people came in so they got to come up in the order that they came in the door. That was amazing. She came around and asked for a certain family. Yeah. I think it went really well. We had about 132 all-day lights. 732 kids. So close. We were there and watching it and trying to it was so it was like a very, very long. We've got about 20 minutes. I'll try to move it along as fast as I can. Okay, let's go right on to the house managers that just update where are we ordering about ordering the... Okay, then that's really all we have to say about at this moment. Sue Ellen, I hate to... It's done? It's done. It's completed and the files have been shared with Kathy. And that was the template with the restored that was passed around. I kind of shared it with the Red Borders for all of us. Thank you. Well, can we move it around along? That's a good reason. Scrap up. Well, Karen and I met on Monday and got a lot done that the initial one started Erin Crews. Erin Crews, I'm sorry. And looked at some past scrapbooks that were still missing pieces. So I went through just from the 75th anniversary Ice Cream Social that we did in 2013, we hadn't deleted the pictures in. And so I just downloaded a bunch of pictures last night. I think I have pictures too. Good. Because we had the automobile and bar shoppers and Ice Cream, the council and mayor that were serving Ice Cream. So I'll add those to those pictures there. And then we started in on the I had to buy a new book because my book was so old that I was going to donate that they don't even make the pages anymore. And so I was like, okay, we're starting a little bit. So I got a really pretty piece that was with that Callahan house and we got pages put in and kind of doodads and things and left some blank spaces for things. But Yes, I got that printed out and I'll get that. I do have a question in regards to the scrapbook. So do you have pictures like of us decorating the tree and stuff last year? Did you take some? Those are the kind of things that would be great. I think I summed to everybody last year. But I can send it again. Yeah, I can look on my email. If you have it all again. I'll save all of it. So if anybody has pictures or anything that they could share and share with Connie, that would be amazing. Well, Connie's leading. I'll give you a little heads up. If you don't mind sharing with me, I would love that. I'm hoping you said I'd like to kind of kick it right off. Do you want to get everyone to take a look at that or a little bit? Or we can pass through it. Well, in between everything, maybe we can look at that in between our and can I see a show of hands of who still has scrapbooks? I have them all. I would really love for them to come back to the house at some point. And I do think that they should also. Now they are safe. I just want to make sure they weren't scattered all over. I have them all. They are safe and I plan to pick up where she left off. I still have some stuff in the scrapbook box so just reminding them to paper clothings or newspapers and stuff. That's exactly what I was talking about. And I have lots of pictures. So if there's something specific that you'd like, you should like the 75th anniversary I have pictures. Yes, we actually had a photographer that day. So that's exactly what I mean to get those to you. I'll just put them on flash drive. Okay. Moving on. Connie, did you hear? I'm not trying to shorten this, but I know we're on time. Is there anything else you wanted to add? No. Okay. Okay. So before the advisory board annual report to the city we are working on that still what's here is still a rough draft. And it's pretty close to a rough draft. Yeah, it's just but it's still a rough draft and so this isn't ready to be loaded on by the board. I'm not sure what else you want to do to this. I just want, first of all, I think we should read and talk about what exactly we want to add into it, make sure that we've got our mission statement. Just simple thing, I think. I did find out that it works for 2022. Yeah, and I gave it all to Kathy, so she's been through it to refine it and make sure things were accurate to what she knows about the house. So really the only thing we don't have are, like you said, the year end. Right, and financial information. It wasn't clear to me what you wanted for the financial year end. Well, in last reports it's been earned differential revenue. And so I made a little note there. And there are dates that I would suggest, or years in particular, that I would suggest be included. I went through and looking through past annual reports and just taking note of these things that they pay attention to that we too need to be consistent with. And I made those notes, but I think that we do need to have yet another meeting that would include everyone who's interested to be able to bring with them any additions or changes or whatever. Some of the big things that I saw was missing was the cost. Yeah, the lease cost was missing in advance. So, again, there's just simple little things that just up cleaning, finalizing the community. Well, the number I would, I mean, we can certainly put rental revenue in there, but I don't think that number really adequately reflects anything because there's also matching expenses that go with that. So we could put rental revenue, but I also think that the dollars added to the funds might be a good. I think that's a good additional line because I think that helps separate. Right. Can you do rental profit? Well, the rental profit would be the amount we're adding to the. Yeah. So that would be the, that would be going. Yeah. And the other thing is I want to make sure that we're splitting out that we're doing the upkeep and that type is separate from historic preservation because we need to make sure there's a clear definition that there's the. Regular maintenance is one thing like 30 year restoration and preservation is indeed a whole separate category. So, I mean, most of the reservation and preservation we're doing is the grant. Yeah. So, honestly, we've done some stuff in the past, but in general, those numbers aren't going to be broken apart very quickly. And oh, by the way, the dollars that facilities spend on the house, we don't have any insight into it all. Yeah. So none. Okay. But that's good to just. It's still good to separate. I think we should just keep the grant in a separate bucket and that we have major projects that we take on that are more in the arena of preservation and restoration. I just don't know if you want to be part of this, but you want to be downstairs. I got here a little bit early. Downstairs is fine. Is that it? Okay. So make sure. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'll introduce you when we get downstairs. I do think we need to include student volunteer hours that something has been in the past reports. I think this is something. I don't think we have very much to show except for the person. So we don't have anything this year. We had nothing this year. Previously, we would have the student volunteer hours at the open houses. Yeah. But because. But we didn't have anything this year. Not this year, but we're certainly not tracking up. No, I know you're not. I know you're not. So. So here's, here's the idea. I think we can discuss this at the meeting that we're setting up. And then this, that in particular, it doesn't need to be discussed at this point. And then we can bring it back in front of the board to have our approval. Okay. All right. I'm hoping that we can do it. It is the holidays, guys. So I don't know how exactly we're going to work this. Can it go into January? Because we are. We are. And technically. Most of the reports on previous year happened to follow here anyway. Right. So I think we can go into January. And that was the original. So. Truthfully, maybe we can meet before the next board. Ladies, do you want to look at your calendars and figure out exactly how we're doing this? Or not? I mean, the bottom line is we're going to have a new board in January first. So. Correct. Okay. So. We'll have to set up the date, I guess, to work on that. Do you think it's reasonable to do before the next meeting or should we do it after? I think we should do it after. Yes. It's so squeezy. Right after, then we really give a little bit of time to do the final December. We don't have the true final December stuff. So you might do it in May or August. Right. June. Yeah, yeah. So we can get it pretty solid. Okay. So right after that, we do right after that. So maybe we wait until, to set the date. Yeah, we won't have the December numbers until the middle of January. Yeah. So that's until the key cards go final. Yes. And I do know that because Connie, myself, and Karen have been working on this. I think I understand you're stepping off the board. Okay. So she's welcome. Well, so go ahead and join us. Why? That's fine. Go ahead. Go ahead. All right. Thank you for that statement. Okay, moving along to the board recruitment status. We're still, but we're just waiting. The council interviewed all of the candidates on December 10th, which was last Saturday and we have not heard anything under new business and shifted the Howard A. Open House on the 14th to new business. So, for the Christmas pack up, maybe that's a January item. Should we move that to the January? We can certainly move it to January's lives. Everybody understands it's gonna be like short notice. We're gonna sit there on the 11th of January and pick a January date to do it. If you're okay with that, I'll handle it. I think that's a good decision. And then, well, I'm feeling free. Yes, yes, sure, I need to kind of join that. Yeah. So you needed to move. You left your boxes here, did you not? So we could pack it for you too. So we'll, I'll reach out to you and we'll figure it out. Because it doesn't, it would be nice if it was on the same date, because we'd have to see you, but it doesn't have to be. So, back, so we've already handled the Christmas decor packet, but I do wanna move back onto the holiday open house on the 14th, because that is new business. And I wanna make sure that, because clarification that was brought up at the decorating thing, that the board wasn't aware of that, yet. We just added it because of all the requests to see the holiday decor. And honestly, your presence tonight is welcome, but it's not mandatory, because we're just, it's just an opportunity for people to walk through and see the trees. And I think it's great. I am really happy about it, but obviously it was added a long time ago because it made the, yeah, because it made the... I added it after the November meeting. But didn't it make the... Because Sue Ellen did her row, it makes things for us. Oh, okay, okay. So I thought that printing went from speaking in the past that we had to have all those, all anything into you by February for that, to make that catalog. No, there's a deadline for every catalog, yeah. It was the end of October, I asked for all the information. So I can handle quick things. I can be nimble with something very small like this. And because I've been in the board meetings at the word of the passion to have people available to it, we had that window to add it in. And so I added, I'm sorry if I overstepped. No, I think it's a great overstep. It's just, I wanna make sure, because it was very clearly, clearly, clearly, clearly to us that we are not supposed to be discussing anything. This is a house event. I said it up, it's a house event, not a board event. Okay, that's the difference. I said it up, it's a house event. We committed, the house staff committed to do it. And you guys are invited if you'd like to be here, but it's not necessarily a board function. Right, just for the clarification. Okay, onto other business, unless, yeah. Onto other business. Does anybody have any other business that we need to discuss at this point? That wasn't brought up. Moving on to future agenda items. Open houses in January, discussing in January. A club of error in January. I also think that we should put on that the introduction of the board members and the election of chairpeople for future agenda. That'll be on the agenda in January. I just wanna make sure it's on the agenda. That'll be. And the posting, this is where we're gonna post. Okay. So all the normal January things will be on the January agenda. Thank you. That's basically, does anybody else have anything else that should be on the January agenda? We should hear again, future house restoration and preservation projects just to be able to know about. Is there something that is more urgent to many anticipated to be able to do? I think we should do that in February. I think we, with new members. That would be a good thing for February. So can we list it as a February agenda item to be had? We also need to increase, and when we have the working session for the clubs, the election, that's where we're gonna post. I mean, we can do this, we can, in January meeting, we can schedule the working session for later. With the new work? Yes. Okay, I think that's a good idea. What does anybody else think? Do you think that's a good idea? Works for me. And just the other thing is that you're entering into a time of a lot of work at the house. Of course. And that if time became, a commodity that was somewhat limited, this criteria thing could really, get pushed back quite a bit, because to add a club to them, stop their ability to attend because of, I don't disagree with that, so I think it's all about setting up the criteria. This is nothing to do with adding the clubs yet, or putting that on, because I think, personally, I think there's a clear understanding on my part that, yeah, we've got all this restoration and stuff coming up, but we can certainly work on just getting their criteria set before we invite them. It also comes with a club over there, which is in January, we're just gonna go back to talking about club work. So, it's kind of part of our, yes. And so, both are kind of, it's appropriate to bring them up in January and then start to figure out how to work in on it, to work into it. One thing that would be good to introduce new work, and Rosha will look to the conversation, but for anyone, how about this? So, everybody's getting their coats and dresses on, and I think, I don't know if it's just got chilly, but we're packing up and ready to go. Well, we're doing well, it's 11-11, is there anything else you want to do with this? So, how many people brought ornaments for the exchange? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. All these? That's quite a lot. And I don't know about Jack. But you're so much fun to watch when you're older than that. Yeah. Can't you? I don't care. Hey, that was the third one. Right, the couple days right there. All right. Okay. All right, so, I just need to, if we have no other businesses. Yes. I'm not sure. Okay. Second. Second, all in favor? Aye. Aye. Okay.