 Hey everyone, what's up? It's your girl Rachel here. Thanks again for joining us for another very special AMA We're happy to have you here and today. We've actually got three People on this AMA with us. So I'm going to go ahead and introduce them. We've got Nico our cross He is the CEO and co-founder of DC spark and a significant contributor to milk Amida protocol. Hi Nico. Welcome Hi Rachel. Thank you for hi Thanks, we've also got Christina Sevilla. She's the communications manager at Occam Phi. Hi, Christina Hey everyone, it's great to be here. Hi, and we have Mark Berger. He's the Occam Phi Association president. Hey Mark How's it going? Hey Rachel, thanks for having me Yeah, well, thank you all for being here. I just want to remind the audience before we get started Please send your questions in the chat All three participants are available to answer those questions for you And we're going to go ahead and just jump right into the AMA today So first question and I guess this would be for Nico. What is milk Amida? Yeah, so Milk Amida is a protocol that gives EDM capabilities for non-EDM blockchains using roll-ups And we are planning to have deployments for Cardano, Algorand, Solana and Terra And this is quite good because it will bring all the tooling Everything that's related to compatibility from the EDM So you can code in Soliti for all these other chains and it's like a pretty hot topic And we have seen like this has been like pretty helpful for all the blocks like avalanche Near and some other ones Got it. So it's it's a layer two, correct Nico. Milk Amida is a layer two Yes, so when Milk Amida is implemented as a roll-up Which basically is using like the main chain as a data availability solution where All everything that happens in the layer two gets read into the layer one. That's a layer two We are using roll-ups, but for the specific implementation of Cardano right now We went a little bit faster. So we implemented a sidechain which is like highly scalable But it's going to be moving towards being a roll-up in the medium term Got it. Got it. Great. Mark and Kristina, can you guys talk a little bit about Occam-Fi and Occam-X? Absolutely. So Occam is known for its primary market launch pad So it exists roughly a year now and it has launched over 30 quality projects focusing on the Cardano blockchain And what we've noticed is that on the main chain There's congestion Smart contracts are relatively new and it's relatively hard to use But there is a load of good projects that deserve decentralized secondary market and that's what we're going to provide with Occam-X or Milk Amida To benefit from all the speed advantageous that it has Got it. Wonderful. Now, can we go a little bit more into detail as to how these two projects are actually working together? Mark, you kind of touched on it, but if we could just go a little bit deeper there, that would be great Yeah, absolutely. So All of this is a standard for Cardano-Nailable and Milk Amida has fantastic infrastructure to take those CNTs to bridge them over to Milk Amida And then once they're bridged over, there will be significant liquidity pools At Occam-X where you can easily swap those tokens and finally dive into a lot of DeFi action Milk Amida allows us to use the EVM standard so we can basically look back and make use of the most used smart contract engine that we then can use and to scale those projects and provide the interesting DeFi opportunities So in the end Occam-X is basically a decentralized exchange similar to something like Uniswap, but it's optimized for for CNT tokens We'll have a lot of good projects on there and we'll have good partners that provide decent liquidity and therefore it's going to be decent and interesting for any type of user to start looking at this and using it early on because there's going to be significant liquidity mining opportunities where the incentivation is set In an interesting way for people to participate Got it. Niko, did you want to elaborate a little bit on how Milk Amida helps Dexes take advantage of liquidity across multiple blockchain ecosystems? Yeah, sure. So this is like a pretty interesting concept because for example right now for Cardano There are not like bridges to other like blockchains for example, Ethereum, Solana, Valance, etc And through Milk Amida, Cardano is going to get exposure to assets from like the you know like ecosystems of Milk Amida It's not going to be only this EVM solution But also it's going to be by using one of our partners, Nomad We're going to be able to have connection to other EVM solutions Which is going to be quite good because right now Dexes in Cardano They only have access to Cardano assets But for example Occam when it's launching Milk Amida They're going to have access not only to all the assets that exist in Cardano But any asset that they can get from all their EVM chains So this is quite cool because right now for example in Cardano, there is no USDC There is no USDT and Occam is going to have all of those So it's going to be like a big improvement for everything that's related to the access in Cardano And also it's going to be very tangible for normal users Got it. Now. I think Mark and Christina Did you want to show a video as to how Occam-X is leveraging Milk Amida? That's right. We prepared a little demo for you guys to take you through the testnet On Milk Amida. So what you can see at the moment is the landing page for the Occam-X Ecosystem I'd say the Occam-X protocol We have over there Occam the Monk which is our little mascot And I'm just scrolling here through the landing page to give you a little taste of our roadmap What it looks like, what stage we're at And right now we're actually going to launch the Occam-X swap So on the right hand side over there you'll see that I'm showing that I already have my Metamask wallet connected. For those that don't we have a step-by-step guide on how to do this It's very simple. It doesn't take longer than 10 minutes in order to set everything up Including the confirmations So here I'm starting the actual swap and all that you have to do is just Put in the tokens that you would like to swap Here because of my internet it might take a little bit of time for it to happen but there we go we have Everything set up there It's a very quick process as you can see then your Metamask which is connected As for your confirmation well, you'll notice again because of my internet it was a little bit slow and due to the recording time Usually this doesn't happen When I'm not recording As usual, you know technology gets in the way It's very quick. The confirmation takes just a few moments So there we go. You can confirm on the side. Of course after checking all of the information is correct and You'll see that the Transaction is pending and within seconds. It's actually already confirmed We go back to the wallet at the moment just to see that the assets have been added to Metamask So we go to assets over there And of course everything is on the milka media test net which is now available to everybody Since yesterday we welcome people to go on there and to test it for themselves And we created a form for users to be able to give us feedback In order to maybe improve on anything that needs improving You can also provide liquidity as i'm showing on the screen right now It's also a very quick and simple process that takes just a few clicks I didn't do it here just in the interest of time But we encourage everybody to get on to try it out and to provide feedback for us Thanks, Christina. That was an awesome presentation. I love that Very visual. I'm going to take a few questions from the audience because we've got those coming in right now Bit dano, they're asking what wallets will be compatible and are we able to transfer wrapped eith tokens back to cardano? So whoever wants to jump in and take that question Yeah, I can take that question. So In comparability for wallets You are going to have like the main one for example metamask So you can use metamask in ethereum to move assets to milka meda and then you can use again metamask to move Assets in milka meda and even to use like the bridge to move assets from milka meda to cardano And most of like the tooling in from ethereum works out of the box for milka meda There is like two terms that I like to use to explain this you come in as evm equivalent Well other solutions sometimes they're even compatible. What is the difference if you have twins Fraternal twins are compatible and identical twins are equivalent So basically we are like the frat like the identical twin for ethereum So everything that works in ethereum work with us And in the cardano side most of like the most well known wallets Can support milka meda to move assets from cardano back to ethereum or milka meda Got it. Great Okay, next question I'm going to ask the next question But an audience is kind of asking the same question. So they kind of coincide What will the ackham x decks allow users to do? So can we talk a little bit about the use cases and also how the ocx token will be leveraged here Yes, of course So first and foremost you can swap the tokens on the decks directly You can provide liquidity With the providing of liquidity and there will be liquidity mining events where people can have decent yield farming opportunities And then the token itself Is set up to be the governance token So the whole ackham x setup Is its own dow that is governed by the token and therefore you will have a say to participate in state-based on-chain governance votings On how to sort of go forward and take decisions So, yeah, it will be important if you have the ocx token Got it wonderful And mark how do how do people acquire the ocx token? Yeah, so there's a detailed blog post on medium On our oak and fi medium So currently There is a couple ways on how you can get the ocx token for free One way is to acquire the ocx token and stake it another way would be to delegate your adal to the p ocx pool Of course once we launch and we have Already some tvl achieved and the token will be released and then you can buy it directly On the the oak x decentralized exchange um And if you want to know more the best place is to go to our medium and read the article Everything is described in detail on on how you can get your hands on free ocx tokens Wonderful. I'm going to take take another question from the audience. We've got quite a few coming in So thank you guys for being interactive with us Bit donno is asking why is there no token from milka mida and will will there be one in the future nico? I'm going to let you answer that one thank you, so Something that for me wasn't great When I would use like a sidechain in ethereum I will have to get this other token and it would like make a normal user confusing so For us milka mida we want to put first like user experience and that's like taking out friction So if you for example have eta you should be able to use eta to pay for transactions and everything in milka mida And that's the way that we did it So we don't have a token because we wanted to improve like UX and even this is like a very good decision in terms of like how we can expand because eventually in the future We can also even implement. What is called rapid smart contacts? so You can have like a front end or like api in cardano and you can have like sort of like the back and smart contract In milka mida and you're going to only need to use eta to like be able to move computation to Towards milka mida do the computation and came back and get like for example a swap of tokens So even from cardano side, eventually you could be able to use like okam, which is like pretty cool and all of these Much easier to do and enable when we are using a that's the basic currency for other deployments In the other chains that we're going to be using we're going to be using the native token of those Logchains as well. So for example for the deployment algorithm, we are going to be using algo Got it while we're on the topic of tokens. I'm also going to take a question from the audience. Peter is asking In the ocx timeline the token distribution will start when there is enough tvl. How much is enough mark? Can you kind of elaborate on that? yeah, so um We were thinking um, once we crashed a threshold or once the The the ultimix project crashes the threshold of roughly 100 million liquidity provided in us dollar terms um, we get the the start of the ocx token Will will be distributed Got it and mark can you kind of discuss? I heard is there a liquidity campaign that we can expect sometime soon? Yes, exactly. So so we'll um, so right now we're in testnet. So right now we encourage people to go install the wallets Get some free testnet tokens and do some swaps and try to provide some liquidity And then provide us with feedback if there's any hiccups and once we are 100 sure that there's no hiccups anymore we will Switch the live net on and then as soon as we switch on the live net We'll also follow up with detailed instructions on how the liquidity mining campaigns are going to work Got it. Okay. Let's kind of focus on the technical side of things now. Um, nico I'm wondering can you kind of discuss why roll-ups are a possible solution for scalability? Yeah, so, uh, maybe I'm going to get like a bit technical, but uh, I'm going to try to not make it so technical. So, uh I'm a believer that uh, or like what we have seen so far is that layer one, uh change they cannot scale like, uh to the infinite or like To the actual industry needs that we have and we have seen if you know to change like even for example in solana like Change cannot scale in the first layer like forever. It's like not possible because of like lots of physics So what do we do? So a lot of like different blocks have been looking at mainly two different options roll-ups and also Uh, everything that's related to charting charting. It's very complicated and actually like the theorem, uh like path like the updates have been like Modifying what is like charting before charting will have computation and data and now like to look out computation Because it will get like very complicated. So it's just now like database But either way charting is very complicated and roll-ups is working quite well And especially because right now not only there is like the option of like writing information to the base changes in roll-ups for like optimistic roll-ups, which uh, basically, uh, they have like They use like, um They use everything in the layer one to like write the information But also we have this other option, which is ck roll-ups, which basically they created validity proof that That way they can send to like the main chain To verify that the proof is correct and then they can advance the state with the smart contract And this can scale up quite well and we have seen things for example starware Ck seeing and now so that it's like even some privacy solutions like astec, which is like super interesting But that one's more related to privacy. So I'm very bullish in roll-ups And I think like this going to be like the way that All the chains are going to also scale up because at least for me I believe that there is going to be a one blockchain that's going to take the entire market But probably they're going to be like a few that are going to take the market So most of them they're going to go through like similar problems So at the end if everything related to scalability is related to roll-ups We are going to see like layer ones trying to like update themselves or to be more roll-ups friendly And what do this means that basically they're going to be trying to do mostly two things Having the state required to create like proof Being smaller are more specific and that the data availability is going to be like easier And I have seen like cool stuff. For example In the theorem that I'm dating for like make roll-ups More costless, which is like quite interesting. So that's a little bit of how I see How things are evolving but a roll-up is such a Important technology that even later ones blockchains are modifying themselves to be more friendly towards them Got it. And Nico, can you kind of elaborate a little bit on the challenges that you know May come about when using sidechain roll-ups and layer twos And how we can combat those Yeah, so at least for us sidechain is like a medium term solution in cardano Well, cardano have some aggregates that are going to make it more fairly towards roll-up because sidechain does Doesn't have the same security properties as a roll-up roll-up can inherit like the same security properties of the layer one which super super amazing so In terms of that that's why we started with like sidechain to have something working and to eventually when cardano is ready to move everything to the roll-up And related to um Yep, uh, I don't know if I miss one of the two questions that you throw me No, you're good. Thank you. Thanks for explaining that I'm gonna go and take some questions from the audience again Peter is asking is milk amida to cardano the same as polygon is to aetherium. Are there any significant differences? Uh, good question. So, um, your committee is starting similar to polygon to theorem Although we don't have a thematic token. Um, you come out last and have a token that milk comedas moving towards being a roll-up. So then your committee is going to be Evolving from polygon to be something similar to arbitrem or optimism Great. I'm going to take another question from the audience as well as d is asking Could you explain more what about the benefits of holding occ token on ocx ecosystem? Because I think you answered the question for ocx token use case, but not the occ use case. Thank you Yeah, so the the occ token Is the governance token for the primary market, which is called ocm razor That's the launch pad that's been going for a year and the ocx token is the governance token for the ocm x which is the dex They are two separate bows So that they can evolve and grow separately The the whole community Will be getting ocx for participating In in ocm razor having those tokens holding those tokens, etc And so so that's how it's going to go. However, there is an incentive mechanisms On both sides, whether you participate on ocm razor with the occ token or whether you participate on ocm x which providing liquidity for instance to to Get some some free ocx over time great Mark, I'm also curious to know a little bit more about how ocm x will keep the users safe because as we've seen in the past year There's been so many scams and just you know things where users haven't Have been compromised on dexes. So can you kind of discuss the safety protocols there? Yeah, absolutely. So first of all Exact documentation on how you need to do stuff and how you need to set stuff up There will be regular I think I don't know if if mark is having technical Issues with his wi-fi or if it's on my end um christina niko. Can you hear mark? No, no, I think it's on mark's end. Okay. Yeah apologies to the audience About the awkward silence With these with these live events you never know about the technical challenges But mark if you are back with us, can you kind of repeat how? Um ocm fi will be keeping users safe Or we may have to go on to another question There we go. I think he's going to log in again Okay, and the connection will be restored at that point Okay, got it. Okay, niko. Let's talk a little bit more about milk amida then while mark Gets the wi-fi back. Um So can you talk a little bit about why it's relevant to understand that the power of side chains? Uh, yeah, so uh side chains like I just see it as a Middle step towards rollups and rollups is like the thing that's actually really cool And for us, that's why we are like seeing that Rollups are not only like something that could be used for escalability like how we are seeing it here With like arbitrage and optimism Starware ck same and other solutions But also rollups could be used for for example integrating another built on machine into another chain that natively Doesn't support this chain. So for example, we are going to be implementing rollups to bring evm capabilities for algorand Solana terra and also cardano and this is quite cool because we have seen implementations of other evm's Into uh base chains and they're not completely like they're comparable But they still have like some problems some like things that are not working exactly So rollups are so cool that we are going to be able to bring evm equivalents and this like Previously similar to what I was saying about The identical twins, but furthermore if we implement evm as a second layer solution on top For example cardano algorand some of the other ones We could eventually bring technology that's being developed for ethereum to cardano cardano on these other chains Using as as an adapter. So we can bring for example A ck rollup to algorand cardano using it as a layer 3 solution And they're going to be able to use Everything that they have developed so far because we as a second layer solution. We're going to be implementing evm. So For example, uh, the prover The state updated everything's going to work out of the both which is quite amazing because we could like not only give the evm Support but also we could bring overscalability solution for these other chains Which is like something really interesting and that personally like It's one of my passions Got it. Wonderful. Thank you. Uh mark now that you're back with us. Did you want to finish explaining how Occamphi is keeping users safe Where did it cut me off because I did the whole explanation until I realized that Start from the beginning Again, right. Okay. Yeah. So, um, I mean we have done or the developers have done Um, the utmost possible. Um, so they have have been using uh, proven codes That code was carefully reviewed. So from from the application side, uh, We the the developers, they sleep pretty well. Um, having done the the utmost possible and then, um, as known From uh, open razor already, um, the the community is is pretty important for, um, the the open ecosystem So the same as with the open razor, um, open x will have a decent community, um with Moderators that have 24 seven shifts And we'll be there to help any user. Um, that struggles So if you struggle or if you have any questions, um, just join Telegram or discord, um and start asking questions and our people, um, will will make sure, um That they sent you the right links or give you the right explanation or the extra help you need To to get started at the same time. Um, respect the minimum community rules. Um, so never React on a private message that we get from someone To Great. Thanks mark. I'm going to take another question from the audience bit dano is asking will there be pairings for occ on ocx Mark, do you want to answer that one? Yeah, there will be a decent size the pool. Um, occ against eta Right from the start Wonderful. Thank you. Thanks to the audience again. Keep your questions coming. They're they're really great so far Mark, I was also curious to know can you talk a little bit more about the biggest challenges that come about when launching a dex And how we can combat those Yeah, so, I mean, there's a lot of challenges. Um, it it starts with the development Then getting the liquidity then The the legal side of things and then obviously traction um, we believe that the liquidity and uh, a decent setup Incentivation program is the most important part To to grow the dex And that's something we're really confident. We have really good partners. Um, that believe In mil comida and that believe in in all connects as a project that will back us and provide decent liquidity from from day one And with that the the first hurdle is already taken. Um, then we need long lasting Incentivation programs so that it's of interest for people to sort of start moving the funds towards mil comida And that's something that we have ready and where we will release more after we Close the beta and move to to mainnet So I encourage everyone to sort of follow us read through our announcements And then things will go natural Great Wonderful. Okay. Another question from the audience does good play dice is asking when will the launch be? I'm assuming of acom X mark Yeah, so, um, I mean right now we're in beta so we really want to Have some users play with it and provide feedback and if there's no fixes needed Or if there's fixes needed will switch towards mainnet pretty soon When when we're confident that everything is right. So right now we don't want to give a date but uh, yeah things look Look quite promising to start soon Wonderful. Thanks again audience keep your questions coming. We're getting we're getting a lot of questions, which is great I'll take another one from peter Peter is asking will metamask mobile work with mil comida or only the browser extension Yeah, so I haven't lately used metamask mobile if If metamask mobile allows you to like uh, uh different networks for example, if you can add for example Uh polygon to also work with mil comida. So, uh, yeah, it's going to depend of metamask But mil comida should be like good to be used for more Wonderful Um mark, I know we kind of briefly touched on this already, but if you can go into more detail here I think it would be interesting for the audience to know more about what acom what the acom X decks will allow users to do For instance staking earning swapping Did you want to go into some further detail there because I you know, I think that's always an interesting thing to discuss Yeah, sure. I mean as mentioned, uh, the primary use case Is to go on there and swap your tokens Another important use case is to provide liquidity And whenever you provide liquidity on top of that, uh, you can do yield farming or liquidity mining Events for incentivization So you can do pretty much anything You can do On uniswap or trader joes That you might have used before or pancake swap so you can do pretty much anything Of those functionalities But it's optimized for now To move cardano native tokens from the layer one Through the nomads bridge Great, I think we lost not great. I think we lost mark again So when he comes back, I don't know if he had anything else to add Oh, hi mark, you're back. Did you want to add anything else to what you just said? I don't know if you you finished or if we lost you before you ended No, I think I said pretty much anything Got it wonderful Nico out of curiosity, what's next for mil commito? What can we expect moving forward? Yeah, so mil committee is going to be launching hopefully in the next week or two And that's going to be for the cardano sidechain deployment, but We want to also be launching an algorithm as a roll up and that's like quite exciting because Our beaches not to be only like focusing one chain, but to be like multi-chain So we want to bring everything that's related to idiom Also to the algorithm ecosystem and after that's going to be solana So it's going to be very interesting like For six months until we are able to achieve this like short-term planning Yeah, nico, you've mentioned a lot about multi chain If you can elaborate on the importance there that would be great as well Just to help us better understand why multi chain is so important Yeah, so At the end there is like in everything that we do especially like technology and in blockchain it has been seen So for example, even in ethereum the like trade-off with like the different solutions that have been implemented So As we see that scalability is a problem even for like blockchain that already like have a lot of like transaction from day one Like solana, they're still like struggling because it's never enough So when something's never enough you need to take decisions And sometimes they want to go with roll-ups or you want to go with charting how you want to treat what is like the state Which is like really important because if you have everything related to like data and computer and the smart contract called mixing one You don't have a global state that's more difficult to create like palliative look for ck roll-ups So maybe you want to modify like the virtual machine to separate this and Make it easier for roll-ups At the end of the day what i'm trying to say is that there is like so many different technical decisions that maybe improve something But make something more difficult So that's why I believe that is in the technical part plus like the focus of different projects that are going to be launching in different chains uh, that's going to create like a like uh Creates a thesis that multiple chains can be focusing different things And hence, uh, there's going to be options for doing multiple things And why milk commit is going to be helpful for all of this because one person could say oh, why do you need ebm? if uh, you can just use a bridge and as we have seen with bridges sometimes that And how the italica also posted that uh, you shouldn't be using like Bridges that much because like the security guarantees are different. So you want to have deployments of your own Uh tooling of like the specific Apps in your own chain and that's why we're like aiming for we're aiming first that the future is going to be multi-chain So we want to bring even capabilities for multiple chains and second that one that that's for example Deploying it here. It's not enough Because you cannot interact with this stuff. It's expensive. It's slow as time Uh, there's going to be some racing involved like we have seen but that this definitely also can deploy to Algorithm solana cardano terra and that way it's going to be faster cheaper and also more secure and by using ebm They can reuse the same code Wonderful. Yeah, so just creating efficiency all around. That's great. I think that's really really important. Those are really great points nico Uh, mark and christina. What can we expect next from? Occam x. I don't know if it's ocum x or ocum, but yeah the way i'm pronouncing it ocum or ocum Yeah, so so let let me pronounce it with my german accent. I call it ocum x But it's pretty much up to you guys If if you pronounce it better than me and people prefer to do it that way Then then we'll do it that way. So it's I think that's that that's all fine Um, so so what can we expect next? Um, yeah, so so what we're waiting for is for the the main net of of new comedia and then pretty much Very soon after that we'll switch the thing on and Make sure that our partners provide a decent amount of liquidity then we'll have marketing strategy in place to put the word Have a nice incentive start using it and then from there See where it grows. I think for the cardano ecosystem specifically it's going to be a relevant place because there is enough and in decent speed and there is a decent amount of cardano tokens that need a place where they can be traded in a decentralized way and that's What we're fulfilling with venue Christina, did you have anything to add to what mark just said about what we can expect next? Yeah, absolutely. So besides that we're users can also expect a Bug bounty campaign which is coming up soon We're going to be releasing more news on that in the next weeks And I think mark already mentioned this but we're also planning a big liquidity mining campaign And there's going to be a lot of incentives and I think somebody asked there about you know marketing strategies And the main thing that we want to do is have a really good product and have really good decks in place which This is why we're asking for feedback from users to make sure that we're able to deliver something that You know works really well And that we have a really good use case for and I think that From that the marketing kind of spreads as well because once you have something that works really well People are going to be attracted to that either way Um and besides that Once everything once we're on the main net and we distribute ocx as well We can look at ocx staking and Kind of other improvements and further partnerships to announce Wonderful. Thanks Christina Last question from the audience because we only have time for about one more bit. Dono is asking Will we be able to see token balances on our liquidity positions on ocx? Mark, are you able to answer that? Yeah, so the ocmx works pretty much the same way as uniswap version two So you can expect a similar environment to see Or to log in with your metamask and then See what's going on Wonderful. Thanks. Well, we are about out of time. So before we end the AMA I just want Nico, Mark and Christina to I want you guys to kind of let the audience know how they can get in touch with you Or in touch with the organizations and projects just moving forward. So Nico, would you like to start? Yeah, uh, thank you. Uh, thank you for the invitation. It was super fun to be with all of you guys And for uh new comedia, I would suggest to follow new comedia and twitter Uh, the uh username is milcometa underscore com and uh milcometa is usually posting news about like what's going on and if you are like Want to hear when main launch is going to be which is going to be like pretty soon But when you want it to be the first one to hear it I recommend to be following milcometa underscore com to hear all the latest news great Christina Did you want to how can the audience reach you guys? Yeah, absolutely. So from our side as well, please make sure you follow us on twitter. So our Uh handles are at awk and dex as well as at awk and fly Please make sure you follow both accounts because we have Information coming out there on a weekly basis besides that you can also find us on telegram We have a big community there. Um, it's awk and fly announcements and awk fly community and There if you have any questions our community managers will be able to answer them all for you Wonderful. Well, thanks again, nico christina and mark. It's been a real pleasure Thank you to the audience for joining us and for being so interactive with your questions. Those were awesome Just want to remind the audience. Please follow us on youtube We do more of these amas all the time So we hope to see you back for the next ones and thanks again everyone. It's been a lot of fun Thank you for having us. Thanks. Okay. Bye. Thank you. Thank you everyone