 Hello and welcome to the live stream today. We are talking about the stream deck plus and first of all just so that you Don't get all too excited. Mine is currently stuck in customs I'll go to have been very kind to send me one But yeah clearance delay apparently so it's about 600 kilometers away from me right now But that is not going to stop me from talking about it of obviously got lots of the specs got lots of thoughts on it So I'll certainly be be diving into this first of all before I do that I'll just say a couple of hello's hello. David Harvey. Great to see you here Oops get that little thing out of the way move that somewhere where we can see it there we go and Great to you here Tim as I'm sorry Chris as well Fantastic to see you on the stream appreciate you staying up as as ever and Yeah, I think you're thinking the same as me It will be a good addition if you've been thinking about loop deck or you've used a loop deck before Are we comparing the two with that as well? Because there is a lot of similarities in overlap and a lot of the things that I really like about the loop deck Then we're going to be able to do with the stream deck plus with much better software in my opinion in any case So what are we talking about? Well, we are talking about the new stream deck plus Which is basically an evolution of the the existing stream deck with the stream deck XL We've got the stream deck Original the mark 2 and we've got the stream deck mini the only thing that really separates all of those is just the number of keys Whereas as you can see with the new stream deck the stream deck plus what we've got is we've actually got multiple different dials on the bottom as well and also a touch strip and we've got those same familiar keys now the Software which we'll get on to is all going to be exactly the same It's all programmed in exactly the same way, but obviously just with some added functionality of those dials So we'll talk about that and let's just have a little look Shall we at the actual form factor of it and take another little spin around it so that we can see what it looks like now Actually, those buttons that it's got on there are in fact larger than the original stream deck So if I just sort of compare the two here, we can see the stream deck XL next to the the new stream deck plus and you can see there that the buttons are actually quite considerably larger on the the stream deck plus I Always think that here that you could probably have squeezed in a few more now What they've said is that they are this is the phrase they used they are more glanceable being large But I never really had a problem with the stream deck Button size on the original because I tend to just use them by touch in any case I'm not really having to sort of look down at my stream deck all the time to be pressing buttons So I don't know. I just think it would have been nice to have squeezed a few more in there But anyway, nevertheless, we have got those eight buttons But the new features obviously is going to be these the touch strip down at the bottom there and then also the dials So let's talk about the LCD shall we first of all? So it has got this touch LCD screen and as you can see you can sort of swipe left and right on it And that is actually going to swipe pages. So if you've got your stream deck set up with different pages You'll know that you do need to actually use up effectively two different buttons In the regular stream deck because you have to allow one for sort of page left and Page right. So if you look at my stream deck set up here If I move on to the next page Basically, this this button here is the sort of page left and this one is page right So it's actually taking up a couple of buttons just to be able to have those pages Whereas with the new one as you can see here Just being able to sort of swipe left and right to to move those pages It does actually free up a couple of buttons So it sort of belies how many there is because you've got that sort of functionality of the swipe What you can also do is actually program that that screen so you can change the the background on it Just as you can change icons, you can put all sorts of different backgrounds on there There's a load of ones built in but you can also Obviously upload your own and then you've also got the space where the buttons themselves are where you can actually change the the backgrounds and the images on those as well and It does work as a swipe as a touch as well. So you've got that extra functionality So in in actual fact, although there are only eight physical buttons You've then got another four touch buttons effectively on that touch screen But they are going to be related to whatever is that is sort of displayed on there And that in turn is generally related to what is on those dials. So let's have a look at the dials because These look really nice. There is a little video that has got the sort of audio with this So they sound and it's nice in terms of the the rotary action and the clicking It's very similar actually to the loop deck one of the things I do like about the loop deck I'll just unplug it. It's not really using it at the moment Is the the dials so they have got this sort of nice Little clicking sound as you are rotating them and nice solid feel to them So it looks very much like the stream deck plus is going to be in much the same ballpark as this So nice solid actions there. They are and what they call sort of infinite dials There's no sort of stop to them. So they can just continually rotate in one way or the other Which means that they can be applied to lots of different things and used in a really sort of versatile way Now the use cases for those dials is going to be obviously things like volume and stuff like that But what you can actually do with them as well is you can actually assign hotkeys to them So it's very similar to what you can do with the loop deck in terms of being able to program this And the way that this would work then is in the software you basically just going to drag and drop The the action that you want on to the dial What you'll see is if you look in the sort of right hand column on this this screenshot here At the top as well as the sort of buttons. You've got the rotary Actions so it has basically now got sort of two different groupings of actions in the stream deck software And that allows you to sort of add these these dial actions But what you can do is add a hotkey to these dial actions as well So if you've got something, I don't know Let's say command plus command minus for zoom in zoom out or whatever it happens to be You can assign those to the the dials as well And so every little click every little increment is going to be performing that action So that really opens this up to be used with lots of other applications I mean, that's how I'm using the dials on the loop deck is because I use it for things like, you know Scrubbing along a timeline cropping something zooming something whatever it happens to be and so you can do that just as I was gonna say just as easily You can do that far more easily with with the stream deck software Because it is a bit of a laborious task to create these things in loop deck I find I'm not a fan of the loop deck software as Anyone who's been on this channel for any amount of time would know So yeah, certainly not not a fan of of the loop deck software But this is just basically all the sort of stream deck ease of use that we that we know and love so Really looking forward to trying some of these out. I just say another quick. Hello to some new people in the in the live stream Hi, Sean. Great to see you here. Thank you for stopping by and andre from belgium. Great to see you too Jade great to see you as well here. Thank you for stopping by Chris if if I win it it will be officially called I will be officially called mr. Elgato I have a huge the original the 32 and the pedal and a bunch of all that Elgato stuff I know it is a bit of an ecosystem, isn't it? What I love actually I mean, this is a great point is that it is actually doing something which we'll talk about a bit later with the Elgato software it is actually bringing everything together. This is going to be a really unifying device But I'll talk about that a little bit later. It's actually far more powerful than it looks like on there just the service Um Nice shirt by the way, you can get this. Thank you very much. That's almost like I'd Cue that up. You can get this from my merch store. I should probably have a link You can find it at my website take one tech.io and then hit the little merch button up at the at the top So that's where you can find that Um, hi Elaine. Great to see you here as well. Love the swipe Yeah, it is um, it's going to be great for sort of navigating these things and yeah without having to Use up one of those buttons. That's going to be um Going to basically free up some of those buttons as well. Hey rich. Great to see you here and hey gym. Great to see you as well Um, so let's go through and talk about some more of these things on the the list here Um, where are we now? So as well as the touch on the touch screen You've also got the dials can be pushed in as well So that means that you can use that for whatever function is on the on the screen You can use that as well. You can just basically push in on the dial So I've got a little video of it here. So basically as well as being able to rotate them here You can also sort of push in and out and actually what you can see there is there's another feature Which is built into this which is what they call dial stacks And effectively what you can do is basically add as many different Actions rotary actions as you want to one dial And then basically pushing the button in is going to switch between them And in fact you can sort of see this here If you just look at the little part of the screen directly above the button here as it's being pressed You can see how it was. Let me just play that again It was actually just basically cycling through those different actions So when the button's being pressed the little icon just above it is changing because it is cycling through Different actions and what that means is you might want to have you know one dial Which is let's just say for your um your levels for a particular set of devices And so you could have the the button so you press it once adjust your mic volume adjust it again Which adjusts sorry press it again, and it would adjust your you know in-ear monitors Adjust it again. It might adjust your discord levels or something like that So you can really have multiple different things all on the one dial Profiles obviously are going to work just as well on this as they always have done and pages as well So when you are swiping back and forth between those pages of the The buttons it's also going to be swiping through the actions that you've got on the dials as well So, you know Combine pages profiles and those dial stacks You can really add quite a lot of things into here And that's really great because it does integrate with the all the algato products So if you've got algato lights and the algato wave mic software the audio software wavelength But one of the things that they've done which I think is huge and I'm really looking forward to digging into this Is that the algato wave software? So this looks like something like this Well now you can control all of that with this device But in actual fact previously you always used to have to have an algato wave microphone in order to use this software or the the xlr the Algato wave xlr the the box that you can basically just plug in your xlr microphone But unless you had that or as I say one of the algato microphones Then you basically couldn't use the software. So it wasn't sort of like opened up for everything Well now when you add in the stream deck plus and you actually plug that in then that does in fact open up All of the algato software so for audio which means that Things like adjusting independent levels of different applications that you've got on your computer is now Sort of all controllable by this because the algato, you know wave plus software is really powerful It's just that as I say it was always just sort of limited by you needed the algato microphones to use it I'm really looking forward to digging into that software more now that I I can actually use it And have that as a sort of companion to Rocaster because anyone who's watched the channel will know that I do do a lot of Sort of audio routing with the Rocaster You know using the three usb channels and then I've also got another one for Into the back of the Rocaster out of the mic socket on my computer So basically I've got sort of four different channels going into the Rocaster Well now we can also then do some splitting off of different sort of routing tasks And actually have that go through the wave software So I could be controlling independent volumes or levels on you know different sources on the computer As well as you know all of the the other stuff that we can do on the Rocaster I think that this is going to be a really powerful sort of companion app to that more or less So yeah, definitely looking forward to digging that in Hi equip institute Yeah, apple auto correct, you know, siri still correct my name for myself as well You would think that siri might have learnt that I was spelled it But yeah, it happens to me as well So what's your name by the way just so that I can call you call you properly by your name David Yeah, can't wait for yours to arrive to mine. So mine is um, I'd hoped it would be here by now But then I got the notification a couple of days ago delayed in clearance delay So I'm in the northeast of Thailand and it's currently stuck in Bangkok. Uh, yeah sort of 800 kilometers away. Hey, Sebastian. Great to see you here. Thanks for stopping by the stream Oh from Poland. Great to see you great to see so many folks. I do love the fact that we can Uh, all be here on this this global Internet connected with each other um And uh flow tense great great to see you. I shall try to commit that one to memory I may have to ask you again next time though Um Smell another course. It's funny. You should say that it is definitely on the list the the stream deck course Um, yeah, I've got a number of different courses. By the way, I should probably mention I sort of mentioned it in the the giveaway. In fact, I should definitely mention that shouldn't I So yes, I am doing a stream deck plus giveaway. It's not the one that I'm waiting for You'll have to pry that out of my cold dead hands But that will be ordering another one directly to to whoever is the winner So you can enter that in the the chat You'll find it's pinned to the the top of the chat there And it's also in the description if you have not entered already So the draw for that is going to be on Next week week on tuesday. So after cyber monday I've got some discounts running through through black friday weekend cyber monday And then I'll do the draw for the stream deck plus there. So yeah, hopefully That will go to somebody who is in need of a stream deck But aren't we all in need of a stream deck? I think we are It's funny actually because even though this one's coming I was on the verge of also Adding a second stream deck excel to my my setup as well because sometimes it is handy to have To have everything out in front of you when you're doing a run of show In fact, it was specifically for this one. So I'll just while we're here while we're talking about this This is my current stream deck now. Normally all of my buttons look nice and pretty something like this All matching designed all my icons you can find my icons on my my store as well But today you can see they look a little bit messy because they've got all of these different Scenes down here, which are all of my sort of b-roll. So I'm just sort of adding in my b-roll Live as it were. So if I just press this button down here, for example, then it will bring up this scene to sort of show the difference of the Stream deck plus compared to the original But basically, yeah, so I've got all of these different scenes and one of the things I'm going to be doing with my Recorded videos, which are all done pretty much live. Anyway, they're all done sort of live to tape as it were Live to disc I'm going to be trying to work in more b-roll to those sort of things as I do more sort of product demos and stuff like that So in my regular videos, I want to have, you know, sort of queued up lots of different sort of b-roll scenes So I can still do it all live in one take. Um, but basically just flicking between them So yeah, I'll probably be adding another stream deck excel as well But anyway, I digress Um Yes, when am I going to announce you as the winner Chris? So, um, yeah, let's uh, let's see where we are now. So, um, yeah, I am really excited about this But there are a couple of things about it that I'm uh, I'm sort of a little bit curious about really. Um So Yeah, so just to answer your question. Hey gert, great to see you here in the chat as well Is it possible to have the dial control the position of a call out in da Vinci? Well, there are going to be built-in plugins that allow you to control many different things But actually this would come back to uh that feature that I was talking about where you can actually just program anything that you could do with a Keystroke or a key command and you know on a rotary dial Sorry on a On one of the dials you can apply as Basically that keystroke would be mapped to you know, one of the little increments as you turn the dial So I don't know what the particular keystroke would be for that in da Vinci But even if it's not in a plugin, uh, then you can just sort of recreate it So as I say the very simple one of this is you know, I don't command plus command minus four zoom in and zoom out So you could literally map That to the dial if I just bring up that particular thing once again So this is where you're basically dragging this option on and then here you can see you've got Um, these are two three different options per button when you're assigning a hotkey You've basically got you know the the hotkey for when you rotate it one increment left one When you rotate it right and also the push as well So it's gonna be really easy to actually map these so I'll be using this for all sorts of things Um, I actually I don't really do editing. I edit my podcast minimally I chop the end off and things like that and stick and add it in the middle of it For my live stream a backstage podcast. Uh, so that's about the limit of the actual editing I do I do that in adobe premiere though. Um, and so I'll be mapping Some of the controls that I use for that for like scrubbing back and forth chopping and trimming and all that kind of stuff I'll be mapping those to the dials at the moment. I'm using the loop deck So they are mapped to that in the same way. I also use photoshop So I'll have this to sort of zoom in and out just brush size and so on And so yeah, all of that sort of stuff anything that you would ordinarily be able to do just with a Keystroke or you know combination of keystrokes you'd be able to do that What you can also do is if there's things where you use modifier keys sometimes with it and sometimes without You can actually assign that modifier key to something else. So I also use the stream deck pedal So it might be that I have a dial that does one thing But then when I press the pedal in it'll do something different And I'll still be able to use the dial. I'm really looking forward to sort of playing around with that and and diving diving in Um, just to answer chris's question here. When are the tutorials coming back? Lots of podcasts on your channel. Yeah, so I did a big update on my channel and where I was at with it Probably about a month ago something like that. Um, so they're returning in the next in the next week or so Yeah, just what I've been doing is just to digress and to give you a bit of an update the past two months have been spent on Setting up all of my systems really and getting all of my content Scheduled in terms of what I'm doing across every other platform And then the podcasts have been something that I've been doing although there's one a week going out on the channel I've actually been recording about three or four a week. So by the end of november. I will have all of my record my Podcasts recorded up through february So that will all be sort of done and then my schedule will be focused more on getting back to the regular course video So I'll have a whole series of videos. You'll see a lot more coming out this week There'll be the obviously the the stream that plus video the actual full Unboxing tutorial and all that kind of stuff will be coming out this week. There's also another big update coming to some things that i'm working on so there'll be Look forward to at least I would say three new new regular recorded videos this week And then yeah a few other things with some other devices in the pipe So they are they are coming back. There'll be about I would say three regular long form videos Coming coming coming in every week going forward. So yeah expect to see those Yes, there certainly will be a course coming I should say as well I in the the giveaway the The giveaway for the the stream deck plus When you enter that there are different things you can do to sort of increase your chances and get sort of extra entries And one of those is to actually check out my courses and the reason I'm mentioning this now Is because I did kind of give it away on the there that there is an early offer for a black friday giveaway So also a black friday discount. I should say So basically if you use the code cyber 22 on my store, you'll be able to get 35% off everything and that actually includes my My icon packs as well. So over on my store. I've got courses on ecum live Which is the live production software i'm using for live streaming now It's what I use for making all of my videos highly recommend it I've also got my roadcaster pro 2 master class over there as well And then also the zoom master class. So that is how to sort of level up your game on zoom And for me, I always think that zoom without ecum is a bit pointless So actually if you get the zoom master class, it also includes the ecum master class as well And you can get 35% off all of those that runs through till cyber monday as well And that's using code cyber 22 You'll also find my stream deck icon packs here. So I've got one for zoom ecum live youtube player keynote Another one with 3 000 icons got my stream deck calculator over there and also pro mouse Which is what i'm using right now to sort of demonstrate on the screen So you can find all of those and yet they are all 35 percent off 35 percent off in some cases. I think the calculator one. Yeah, the calculator one is two dollars. So 35 percent off that is a pretty Pretty good point. It's hardly worth the paperwork. Is it really? But anyway, there you go. Um, so so yeah, those are my my stream deck icons So let me come back and just get back on topic for a little bit. I don't mean to to digress there But yes, so since we are talking And oh, hey Eileen, I've just got a message. It says Eileen celebrates five months of membership Well, thank you so much for is it five months since I launched my membership that That's flown by lies. So, uh, thank you very much and glad you've entered the the giveaway as well I hope I wish everyone all the luck in the world I wish I was doing more of these now in terms of, you know, giving more away in the single month But I am going to be doing this on an ongoing basis. I think I'll just have like a monthly giveaway of something That is relevant and on topic to the month Um, thanks Caleb. I'm glad you're I'm glad you're enjoying the uh, glad you're enjoying the the course Um, so uh, oh, I'm sorry. I've just missed another question there. So is it lacking buttons? Well This is what I'll get on to so I've got a few things that are my initial reservations having not held one and used it Um, but what you can see here is there is eight buttons at the top and as I mentioned they are actually Small sorry, they are actually larger than the buttons on the You know the other stream decks all of the other stream decks the buttons are all exactly the same size Although there's just more off, you know, less of them fewer of them depending on which model you've got Um, but yeah, these buttons are larger and I can't help thinking because it is the width of a The standard stream deck. So if I just pull up the standard stream deck for a second You can see that the width of it is basically exactly the same But that kind of highlights just how much bigger and larger those those buttons are I can't I'm thinking that they probably could have got two rows or maybe even three rows of Of you know, the the regular buttons there So I think that it's one of those things I can never have enough buttons almost on my stream deck And so whilst I think this is a really great device It almost would have been great if they could have just sort of combined maybe the The original at least the mark too with the um with the buttons and the dials That might have been a little bit of an additional way to go I'm seeing this, you know, it's it's fine for me because I'm basically going to be using this as a companion to My other stream deck my stream deck pedal and maybe even a second stream deck excel So I'm not as bothered about the buttons, but in terms of a single device They probably could have squeezed a few more on the other thing that I'm going to be really interested to see is um, I've got the Livestream at nexus, which is a device from ava media And that's got really big buttons and one of the things you get when you start having much bigger buttons Is the sort of feel and the travel of them and one of my criticisms of the live stream in nexus from ava media was Those the buttons that it has are a little bit wobbly because they're much bigger I'm going to be really interested to see what the action is like on these with them being sort of larger because it is a different sort of Game in in terms of the the mechanics So yeah, really interested to see about that There is one other thing though this i'm I'm not entirely sure about which is the form factor if we take a look at it from the side Let me get rid of that one You can see that this is the form factor of it So they've sort of changed it in many respects because obviously all of the existing stream decks Now with it even with the mark two are more this sort of form factor But you can sort of always remove the base so that you've got a you know a flat stream deck You can always take it off the device off the the base and what that means is you can actually sort of lay it flat Now it's a shame really. I love these magnetic devices I mean coming back to the ava media nexus as well That's another one that has got a magnetic base that it sort of you're going to adjust the angle on With this one the base actually screws in place So you do have to actually screw into physical screws with a screwdriver There's no little thumb screw or anything like that. So that base that little sort of Flat plate at the bottom is actually firmly screwed in place You're making it really a conscious decision about you know, it's got to be mounted like that And I say I say that because you haven't really got another option Whereas with the other ones you can actually sort of take the base off and use them flat and sometimes I will find that You know, if I'm doing something where I it's next to my keyboard more like I'm working or something like that I will often have this off the stand and just have it flat This one unfortunately will never lay down flat because of the position of the usbc cable And I don't I don't quite understand why they've done this because it's coming directly out of the back So even if you get one that's got like a sort of 90 degree head on it So that it can actually come out at 90 degrees Then it's going to be basically you're going to be resting the thing on the actual cable itself And then it's going to be a little bit wobbly I don't know. I think there's going to be a bit of sort of pushback over this because I know that there are people who like it on their desk Me included the other time when I would do that would be sometimes if I go traveling Which is not that often these days. I have to say given what's been going on But I have thrown this in a bag with me and when I took it away with me I didn't take the stand because I just wanted to be able to take it like this Well, now you don't have the option to lay this one flat and yeah, it's not going to stop me from It would not have stopped me from getting one or using it. But it is just one of those things I think there might be some people who are Yeah, who are going to be Who are going to be a little bit Not necessarily upset disappointed about that. In fact case in point. Hey Dina, great to see you here And yeah, I know. Yeah, of course you use your flat yours flat in your setup At the kitchen counter. Yeah, so Yeah, so that that is going to be a thing. Obviously Chris is people third party printed bases But it's a shame that you have to do that when they have done it, you know with the the existing one It's just a case if they've got this slightly away. I won't show it with the light there They've just got a slight indentation at the back. So the cable has got space to come out Really surprised to be honest that they didn't do that because yeah, there are people that There are people that use it like that. Hey, elo great to see you as well That would be my guessing as well that this Sorry, Eileen's saying that they're guessing they'll have an XL version of this for 2023 Yeah, I'm guessing that you know now that they've got the whole touch screen and the the dials They will be able to sort of build this all out. Hey non non non beats non Sorry for the pronunciation there. Hello from Germany though. Great to great to see you here as well Um, I'm yeah, I'm hoping that they make a I always joke that I want a stream desk basically an entire surface just fully made up of all of these buttons and things like that But yeah, so a third party printed solution might be the way to go. I mean, I already used something to mount this I use this one. It's off the desk at the moment because I've taken my loop deck off it But I used this for so long for mounting my loop deck Directly above the stream deck and it actually when it was around this way It held them sort of perfectly together. This was just a sort of um An iPad stand, but yeah held the loop deck and the stream deck XL right Just in the correct position and correct angle above each other. So yeah, I'm sure there'll be other custom solutions There is actually a great chap on etsy who makes Molded things for exactly what I was telling to mount the loop deck and the stream deck together So, um, yeah, there'll probably be some third party But as I say, it's just a shame that they didn't sort of factor that all in from the the start Um, let's have a look the the digital screen isn't fabulous. Look how apple Removed it after having true. Yeah, I think that's a bit of a different use case though that one to be honest Kayla because um, yeah when apple introduced the touch strip on the um on the the the macbook It's a bit of a different use case because of How people use that device and the keyboard and then there was also an issue with sort of integrations of that with other things However, in this case, I do think the touch strip is really useful because of the fact that um, It's probably not showing up here But it's the fact that it's actually giving you information and feedback on there So it is actually telling you, you know, what your levels are on different things Um, I actually think it's quite good And I also think having that swipe function that's again I feel like they've almost taken all of the things that I love about the loop deck and added them into stream deck So I do love on the loop deck how you've got the the screen and you can swipe left and right And that was one of the things I thought well That's a great solution because it frees up those buttons then that you don't have the the have to have A button for page left and page right That was one of the things I loved about stream about the loop deck and it's come over here And then obviously the dials that was the reason why I stuck with this in term in in spite of the software Um, but yeah being able to sort of swipe back and forth Let me see if I've got a better picture because I've perhaps not to explain that as well as I could do Um, so here you can see on this one Uh, where's it gone? Let me just bring that back up again and pause it in the appropriate spot Uh, I'll just come back out of here come back in there So Here where as you can see it's changing. So here you can actually see All the settings and this has got deep integration with all of algato's product products. Obviously they're making an entire I mean, they've got such a great ecosystem. I don't personally use algato lights at the moment. I've still got these Uh, other sort of larger softboxes But to be able to adjust the uh temperature setting of your lights from within here Or just the color setting and be able to see what it is on that screen as you're adjusting it I think is really powerful and again, like I say with the microphones as well Um, so and You mentioned there like oh there. Yeah, that's nice if you can read it and that is one of the things you can change the background So if I just let this little video run you can see how you can change the background I would probably be having that something really neutral Just so that you can really actually see what's going on. I mean these ones are a bit more plain It's not really focused on the actual screen itself But yeah, just a sort of plain neutral background is more the sort of thing I would have on that So maybe something uh like Yeah, well that one's got a bit of a color on it as well I also noticed there something which I hadn't just noticed but let me come back to that I notice that as you swipe it's almost Yeah, as you swipe you can change the background Now that's quite cool that you can change the uh the background image on the lcd panel on a page by page basis are based on that little clip there because um Yeah, just to be able to glance down and see and and recognize what page you're on by the image at the back That would be quite useful. I mean as I say I'd still I'd make my own custom images I'd make them quite plain But to be able to just sort of swipe and then you can glance and see what what page of buttons you're on that That's going to be really helpful. I think for me personally So watch as he swipes Then the background changes on the actual uh the lcd panel. Yeah, that's really useful. I like that Um So hey Eric, great to see you here Uh, oh I was just about to read your comment and then realize oops. I can't read that But uh, great to see you. You're chatting in the in the chat Um, it would be nice to control picture in picture size and position on an 8m There are no keyboard shortcuts for that. Ah, right. Yeah, so um Yeah, I've well that's that is an issue if there are no keyboard shortcuts I don't know if there might be any hey, do you know what though? I wonder about the um, so there's a whole another software for stream deck I don't know if people are aware of this but uh, there is the stream deck software itself But then there's also an app called companion And companion basically is it opens up all of the stream deck functionality to use with uh, you know other Other hooks that you want to put into stuff Let me just pull up companion because uh, this is really powerful But what it opens up is it it links in with things like 8m So, uh, let me just to find it for you because uh, this could be a great um a great solution for that If it's something that is if it's something that can be controlled externally um in um in the 8m Then it may be able to be controlled by companion So, let's uh, let's see it's by a bit focuses the name of the uh, the company bit focus.io. Let me just drop this in the chat Um, because yeah, I'm I'm guessing there's going to be some work needed to do on companion side I don't know whether they will have uh developed this out yet, but if I just come over to this screen share Um, so yeah companion basically it opens up all the buttons and then basically you program it You're not programming it using the stream deck software anymore You can actually split it so you can do sort of half with companion and half with the original stream deck software Um, but it allows you to do yeah lots more uh things. This is not giving us too many great examples, but let me just see about the uh, it's going to be just documentation No But yeah, basically it allows you to have much more. I'll leave the link in the description as well It's in the chat though But that allows you to have much more fuller control of uh other software that you ordinarily might not be able to fully control with stream deck and so After that digression, I think um that that may be um something that you could use with the uh, where's it gone with the um To control the 8m because I know that a lot of 8 time uh users Use uh companion uh with um with stream deck because it can control certain things. I'm not sure if it can control that I don't use an 8m myself. So uh, we'll have to have to see hey, yeah, it is indeed a long time great to see you here Thank you for stopping by um, and Let's just see what other questions if you've got any questions or or anything in particular about this um Oh, there is a companion plugin for the for the plus already. Oh, well, that's great. Uh, so works only in beta Ah, so have you um is uh because I'm I'm not an 8m user. Is that something that um Uh can control the the 8m. It would that be a potential way of uh, uh of of doing that I'd be interested to to know if that is That's something that can be done um Let's have a little look where we are at um Yeah, so I'm uh basically apart from those few minor things about the uh the the screw stand and the laying flat I think that that is something that they're going to get a little bit of pushback on And the size of buttons but apart from that I'm really just looking forward to getting this into a workflow One of the things that I always found with I hate to keep bringing this back to loopback we're supposed to be talking about the stream deck plus um, but It is something that is always going to be a comparison and I've talked about it at length I just think that they've been there was such a missed opportunity from loop deck um with their software Because I always found that I mean I I bought this Whenever it was just over a year ago and it sat on my desk for about three months before I properly started using it And the reason was friction friction with the ability to set up the buttons and they using the software It was one of those things that I just felt and I mean i'm a i'm a total geek I love geeking out on this stuff and using stuff But there's sometimes if there's a bit of friction where I thought well I was busy with other stuff I haven't got the time to dig in to learn how to use this because it is so awkward and cumbersome and clunky with the software So having the stream deck now having all of these functions I just feel like they missed a trick and they've sort of missed the boat in terms of these functions that uh Yeah, I mean it's such a great device the loop deck in terms of the build quality and the functionality They've just missed the boat a little bit in my opinion But anyway, so i'm i'm probably going to be replacing a lot of this stuff I'll probably just keep this for some dedicated You know work that I I do one of the things that is good about the loop deck is this You know, it's got the removal stand and then it's really sort of wafer thin And it does lay flat as well. So if you compare this to the size of the Cable compare it to the size of the stream deck. Um, yeah, it is it is much more much more thin and portable So it's good for a portable device maybe but yeah, certainly. I think that the the other one is going to be replacing that So if there are any questions that you've got a proper ecosystem makes all the difference Ah, bicky. Hello, great to see you here as well You can you can use companion to control the ak atm. Oh, that's uh, that's great Um, oh and you're getting yours tomorrow. Congratulations Exciting. Yeah, mine. It's always horrible. Isn't it where you're waiting for something to come? And then you get the notification that it's delayed So mine was held up in customs apparently. So hey, I've got to wait a little bit long for mine. Never mind Yes, maybe yeah, maybe elon acquired the company and fired all the designers Oh, what's going on elon? That is terrible. What's going on at twitter at the moment, isn't it? Anyway, um lots of uh, I Hope you're having a great conversation And I hope it's all hope it's all fit for the stream Um, I think wait for the stream deck plus second generation before I buy but I have four excels right now Yeah, probably you're probably good for stream decks then Um, that is a that is an interesting point you make though with any first generation thing I mean, it's it's not a first generation because it's got the buttons But the dials and the the software and the the lcd Um, yeah, I mean the rocaster pro 2 is another device which I love But there've been quite a few teething troubles with it. So um, yeah, you're not necessarily Wrong to to wait and see what goes with all of the you know, the devices when they first come out Because very few people have actually got them in their hands right now. So Yeah, probably a good move there Um, so well if anyone's got any further questions then do feel free to shout out as I say I've not got it in my hands I was hoping for this to be a much longer stream with me demonstrating everything but yeah at the moment We're stuck with with b-roll of That I've I've got from from Algato, but yes It is something really exciting. I'm looking forward to getting my hand on it and get it into my My yeah my workflow I'm sorry. I've just seen Eric's content comment there. Thanks for thanks for that. Yeah You're just talking behind me talking about me behind my back Um, well, yeah, I hope you are entered as well bicky So, yeah, I should just mention for those that don't know I'm I guessing everyone knows about it now But yeah, you can enter the giveaway for the stream deck plus in the in the Comments and also in the chat you'll find the in the chat and in the description rather should say you'll find the link for that The draw will be on Tuesday after cyber monday So I've got some other things coming up for the next week and then as I say, yeah I will be doing a giveaway every month. I think because it's been very well received and We all love prizes, don't we so There we go. Well, that is going to be it for today folks because um, yeah As I say, I was a rather hoping to have one in my hands, but as it's not here I will not just keep running on and on endlessly But I will be doing another live stream as soon as I get it I'll do the unboxing and the full sort of first impressions and all of that kind of stuff So expect to see all of that as well Thank you to all of the new folks in the chat. It's been great to see some some new people in here And you're welcome back any time, of course You can find in the description as well all the other places you can find me So look forward to seeing you in some of there as well And I will leave a link for those that are watching on the replay to Some other stream deck content over on the right hand side And I've got to also say a big thank you to all of these wonderful people Who are channel members and support me on an ongoing basis. I really really really appreciate your support and encouragement Have a great day folks. See you next time