 Hey everyone, welcome to a little a little thing. I used to do it Zelda Informer, but we're not talking about Zelda today We're doing the Nintendo Prime Reacts. It's our very first ever reaction series Generally, this only happens when there's been really really big game changing news or a big event like E3 or in this case a Nintendo Direct and Today or at least when we're recording this. I don't know if it's actually gonna come out today on YouTube He'll be talking about the arms direct that happened and I am joined by 5j gaming Hey guys, I have a small intro myself here since we have separate audios being recorded. Oh, no No, it will sink these up. Okay. Well just takes hi guys 5j over on twitch. Welcome. I street on into no prime over the weekend Yes, and we were gonna have our other video guy who does some stuff on YouTube Mr.. Daniel on but I had a power outage and I'm pretty sure he fell asleep by the time my car came back But anyways, we're here to talk to you guys about arms and our reaction to it and our thoughts and a little bit of Splatoon. Yeah So we both saw the director. I saw it as it was happening. I was getting my kids ready for bed So it's a little hectic, but I've rewatched it a couple times since Well, what's your general opinion of arms at this point so arms It's been really hard for me to really get a great grasp on what arms really is and they've been starting to flesh that out a little bit I've been so lukewarm on the whole thing Up until recently and I've started to spark a little bit of interest and I think that's kind of the same impression I had about Splatoon so I now I'm a Splatoon fan, and I'm thinking they might get me when I least expect it here So there's they're adding more modes that they're showing to us here, and they're adding more characters and more depth and I'm starting to be intrigued and I think I might get it on lunch. Maybe it's one of those things that I think Splatoon when they first announced it it was Instantly praised by basically the media who got to go a little hands-on with it And it almost made sense, right like it. Okay. It's a territory shooter Right got it. You know, there's not a lot of these out there Especially a lot of popular ones, but it is something that people could wrap their heads around. Yeah, it was kind of like Tony Hawk was at the graffiti mode or whatever Kind of thing, you know just trying to paint the town Yeah, I mean it was a concept that was easily understood from the word go now You know it took some flesh a lot of people were saying oh whatever, you know, it's one of those side games It's gonna be like the that steam game they created there are people under not liking that on 3ds But oh, yeah code name steam. Yeah code name steam and things I love that game. I think that game is fantastic But again, it's a very niche game Yep So whatever and I guess the worry was between at times. Oh, it's too cartoon these two for kids They're trying to aim this game at kids too much And that's gonna alienate Nintendo's core audience, which isn't kids despite what people think I think our channel is also kind of proof of that most of our audiences are not children Right, but at least according to what Google tells me but they were right They were originally a child grabbed by Nintendo and we've just hung along for the whole ride. Sure So Splatoon kind of found its footing the more and more we saw of it the more you know, it really was about e3 When they showed it off e3, that's really when things kind of exploded and people started realizing, okay No, this is just a really good game. Yeah for all ages. It's not just kids. Yeah, and arms Well felt weird when they introduced it because one we thought we moved beyond motion gaming Side of virtual reality and here they are showing off what looks like an improved version of e-boxing. Yeah Exactly and it really turned people off because one people are kind of over motion controls outside of virtual reality and two It just there wasn't anything shown in the little bit that we got during the I think it was in January Or yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah the January Little I don't know event. It wasn't yeah, it was like the big switch unveiling event. Um they It just didn't look very appealing agreed, yeah, and It didn't look bad it was just one of those things where we didn't know enough about it and it looked so simplistic and When media got to play it at the various events a lot of them like yeah, I played fine But I mean it was just okay. Yeah, we don't we don't there wasn't much there You know right and the fear was like, okay It's gonna be like the the next we boxing or like kind of like a new IP version of punch out And it's just it's not gonna be it's not something to write home about right? It's like a second to your game It's it's not a big triple a experience like Splatoon ended up becoming. Yeah, and If we hit learn, you know, if you were on the fence about arms this whole time If you're not sold by the end of this direct now, then you're never gonna be sold on what this game is Yeah, that's true it Yes, you don't have to use motion controls to play and they've actually detailed out how that works We haven't seen anyone actually play it without motion controls yet Yeah, and I'm having trouble Conceptualizing how you're gonna be able to have as much control with motion without motion as with motion Well, it sounds like what it's going to be is that You when you play it with like the pro controller or just a standard control setup. Yeah You're gonna get rocked by anyone who's any good at the motion stuff Exactly, and that's kind of how Splatoon is too I mean, yeah, yeah, Splatoon like like you can do traditional twin stick aiming But anyone who has mastered the gyro Amy, they're gonna wreck you. Yeah, and That's okay because it kind of you know, it's two different demographics You know like people who are gonna get really good with the motion stuff Those are gonna be the guys that are gonna be like playing this game in tournaments and going to evo And and doing a lot of crazy things with this game I think this is gonna show up at evo It almost got voted in the evo for this year and the game's not even out yet. Wow. That's impressive. Yes So, uh, it's it's probably gonna get into it next year Though to be fair It is such a different kind of fighting game. Yeah evo almost needs that kind of variety Well, and the big thing is it's a fighting game Yeah, and if you don't like fighting games, you're probably not gonna be into this It doesn't have the appeal of like a smash bros where your favorite Nintendo characters get together and hash it out Right. Here's new. This is a game that like you need to like fighting games to like this game. Yeah Um, but it's really cool because it's like a unique take on the fighting genre because in the past A lot of it's just been you fight on a 2d plane And go at it. I mean even smash roses like that um In the games that have revolved around like a 3d plane It was really still just a 2d plane rotating in 3d. Yeah, that's fair. Yep Uh, there hasn't been a lot of games that have done a 3d type fighting game very well I mean, I think uh, I haven't played it yet, but I heard pock in tournament. It is it kind of does it Okay. Oh, yeah, I I'd say that still mostly like a soul caliber like experience. Yeah That's what what I saw in the footage. I was like it still felt more like it was just a 2d plane that rotated Totally in a 3d world whereas this is like no, this is a fully 3d like arena You can walk around in you can destroy things you can jump on top of things high behind things Uh, it's a fully interactive kind of environment Yeah, I haven't played power stone But from what I'm seeing that sounds like power stone and be pretty close equivalent to this style fighting So free and open. Yeah, and that's the thing with this game is One it's it has a heavy focus like your attacks are all about the extendable arms and the various ways you can customize it and the unique abilities that each one of the characters have and what they add to the items and the elements and Just everything about this game like what we learned today. It's it seems extremely hardcore to me Like yeah, like this is the kind of stuff that Gets into serious like fighting events like evo because it is That intricate and that that skill based which is so strange because this splatoon is the same way If you're not taking it completely seriously, you're going to be sniped every 10 seconds by some guy Half a mile away with an e-leader and you have no idea what's going on Well, and a fun fact nintendo is trying to push splatoon 2 now is an esport. So They should they really should it has a very long following. It just keeps going and going and it's it's huge in japan Yeah, so I you know and again these for splatoon 2 and arms They are having like tournaments live streamed at e3 So like they're really pushing these games as look like you could take these things seriously and You know not you know not just have your goofy front fun with your friends in your house You can also be like no like let's make big tournaments out of this and you know whatever And we'll see if nintendo ends up pushing it into some of the cash cash tournaments out there and stuff, but Arms just If like i'm not a big fighting genre fan So arms was always very like into me But I wasn't also a big like You know shooting fan like I don't play a lot of shooters and then I love splatoon Yeah, uh, so it's kind of one of those things where arms is intriguing enough that i'm probably going to end up picking it up day one just because There's two things I like supporting in the video game industry One I like supporting extremely extremely high quality games because I want them to continue to exist And two I like supporting extremely high quality new ip's Because I think that's wholly healthy for the industry and a lot of consumers don't you don't have to be like this Like if you're not interested in arms, don't just buy it because it's a high quality triple a game from nintendo Like i'm not fanboying out here. I do the same thing for pc games for indie games You know for xbox and playstation like i'll go out and buy games that are high quality new ip's Because I want the industry i'm i want i'm speaking to the industry of my wallet I want them to know exactly we want these kind of games and if people aren't buying them Then they're just not going to get those kind of games Like it's the same reason I bought watchdogs even though it was just okay Sure because I saw the potential for it to become something more and then watchdogs too came out and it kind of proved Yeah, it can be more and it's apparent how hard nintendo is trying with splatoon and with arms To really make a solid new ip there is so much personality and character in these trailers They had like a weird funny intro to this Direct where you know everyone knows you have extendable arms, but nobody knows when they happened Everyone just woke up and they suddenly had extendable arms. It's like what? They're just adding such weirdness, you know the backstory is so funny. It's so weird In the spring faces and people's made out of noodles and now like some lady that's right man Is his hair real? Well, no one thinks it is but it doesn't really matter. Yeah, what's the deal? So wacky. Yeah, and somebody looks like Ridley in the loader, but with stretchy arms. That's awesome. Mm-hmm And what I like about the game is it's really embracing what it is, right? It's not trying to like force like a lot of games that have this kind of attitude with it They try to make it really forceful and in this game. It feels natural Yeah, from what we've seen so far and it's one of those things that You know, I don't know if this is going to get as big as splatoon did And maybe it will because the switch is ultimately probably going to sell more than the Wii U did So maybe it'll find a bigger consumer base than the first. Oh, then the okay. Yeah, I see what you're saying Then splatoon has a series. I don't know about that. But yeah, I see what you mean the original Well, yeah, like the original splatoon sold over four million. So I mean that's still impressive Unlike what was it 13 million that was sold total. It's incredible. It's like a it's like a third of the audience bought it Yeah, so it you know, I don't know if arms is going to get to a four million You know level especially since it's releasing out of time when there isn't going to be a lot of switches on the market, but right It If nothing is clear from what we know about this game now It is extremely high quality very polished Packed with content getting tons of support post release completely for free I love that more than even swatoon like when swatoon got all of its post release content for free The problem and this this is a problem that I thought might happen with arms But doesn't appear to be is that swatoon kind of launched Like an unfinished game. Yeah, it did kind of feel bare bones So They needed that content to come out for free. This game doesn't feel like it's launched unfinished all of the modes It comes with all of the weapons It already has the 10 playable characters that that feels like a full game And they're gonna be really seen more characters and more items and more stages I'm probably more excited about the other modes they announced than just like the standard fighting Like I think it looks amazing that there's a basketball mode that you have to grab your friend And chuck them through a basket. That's genius crazy crazy And then like a volleyball mode where you're hitting around a bomb That one looks really cool too. I have a feeling I'm gonna play volleyball a lot in this game Well, that's the thing and that's where arms is doing what swatoon did and that it's reaching out to appeal to such a wide variety of people Where it has it's super seriousness to it like it has it's it's 1v1 ranked mode And you know, it's ability to do like, you know, kind of tournament style stuff friends play And you know be able to do like serious tournaments like evo But it's got this silliness to it as well that like oh people could just goof around a volleyball mode They goof around a basketball mode, right, you know, there's You know, I know some people said they're a little disappointed by it, but they have like this grand pre mode That that's their single player Yeah, and when I saw some people talk about how disappointed they were but in the grand pre mode I I kind of sat back and I was like You know, you know, this is a fighting game, right? Yeah, so like it's basically a multiplayer game that this single player mode is always just a ladder And so this is a 10 this is a 10 fight ladder I mean, I know some single player was like Mortal Kombat So like they put story into it and all that stuff, but who cares? Well, there could be story and there could be story. You know cut scenes. We don't know who knows There's a lot of personality. There's probably something that might could have a whole storyline and we won't know until it comes out Yeah But like this game's not going to be successful because of the single player it's going to be accessible because of the multiplayer and I have to say like here I am like glowing about this game that when I don't even like fighting games Like that's how impressed I am and the game's also technically impressive too Uh, outside of the art style being gorgeous the animations for for a fighting game are just like at the top of the heap Uh, and on top of that the game runs a silky smooth 60 fps Is it locked it is locked Even in four players No So Okay The game is locked at 60 fps with one player two player three player when you get to four It drops everyone to 30 Sure, um, and that's oh That's on a single system because it could support the four players for a single system Oh, so what if you do two on two systems? That is totally fine. It'll be locked 60. Yeah, okay At least that's what the digital foundry report said obviously it might not you know by the time the game comes out Maybe it won't be the case But yeah, I feel like it's hard to know like there's like no one really has review copies quite yet. So it's kind of like You know, I mean some are doing previews, but you know, it's kind of one of those I don't know if anyone has enough experience yet, but I mean it's pretty much lock 60 Which is amazing. Uh, I heard that it doesn't run at 1080. It runs at 900p And 720p in handheld obviously There was stuff like that with xbox one and ps4 and there's probably still going on and people stopped caring Well, what yeah, what matters to me is that it's a fighting game So you have that lock 60 fps for the serious stuff and then on top of that apparently There might be some anti aliasing in this game Which you know for most gamers that's not a big deal, but for nintendo nintendo doesn't anti alias like ever Just look at the wild look at mario kart You know, they don't do anti aliasing and yet it looks like they might have applied some anti aliasing to this game Uh, that's so so is this made then by uh, more of those younger developers like splatoon? Yes, emphasize. So this is made by a younger team from new people. Um, it's technically the team that made mario kart 8 Oh, okay now Uh You know, I heard some people talking about like, oh, you know the anti alias like oh my gosh I'm like, well, you gotta remember. This is also the first major nintendo game coming out that was made for switch All right cardy the lux is a port rest of the wild was a port That's true. And those are both we you games. We you didn't have any anti aliasing. So Yeah, so fair point So it's one of those things that you know, this might actually be a standard nintendo might be using anti aliasing for switch exclusive games We'll find out with splatoon 2 2 once those review copies get out there Which that also looks really smooth and yeah, beautiful Yeah, so we knew at the end of this directory. We're going to get splatoon 2 Yeah, a trailer. We didn't know what the trailer was of they didn't you know, let us know Uh, then I said it was going to be there and man Does it look amazing and this is to be clear They showed off what single player mode that they're calling it hero mode is going to be Yeah, they had like some weird little teaser at the beginning where you Followed around marie and she's like incognito And then apparently she's what spurs on this particular campaign and then they she's like Part of the squid sisters. She does that thing and like oh, you don't know who I am Yeah, don't know who I am flipping out Right and man, it looks crazy So what did you think of the one player mode in the first splatoon? I thought it was really good, but really short Yeah, it felt like it was like an idea that they never fully fleshed out and this looks like it's going to have a lot More variety for the kind of mechanics that you have to interact with to complete a level And it just looks more varied in general Well, I always view the single player in the first game as It's essentially teaching you how to play a splatoon Yeah, and it's really short the stories, you know, whatever the story wasn't that bad, but it was really short Uh, and the but what made me forgive how short it was Was the final boss in splatoon. That was a great boss. I mean that might be what Like I'm even thinking about all the boss fights I had in Breath of the Wild I don't think there's any that are better than what I faced in the splatoon at the end of the story mode It was pretty that boss fight was awesome I I mean off topic, but I didn't really struggle all that much with any of the bosses in Breath of the Wild No, no, I can agree that that fight was challenging but intelligent in uh, splatoon Yes, and so I'm really curious how they're going to follow that up in splatoon too But what I can say uh based on the little trailer they showed is that man It looks like they I have taken the single player mode to a whole new level It looks way more intense. It looks like there's way more variety in what the enemies are doing Yeah, uh in level design in platforming and that's what's crazy Like we're talking about a game that is built as a multiplayer territory shooter And single player is very much being built as a platformer With shooting elements. Yeah, it's like insane like mario sunshine Like to the nth degree. Yeah It it it looked absolutely fantastic Uh, and I'm not saying that people should buy a splatoon just to play single player But I mean we might find out it might be worth buying splatoon just to play the single player on splatoon 2 Um, it just looks fantastic. And we obviously don't know the rewards There's going to probably be continued support post launch like they're doing for arms And they definitely would also tune. Yeah, but It just looks fantastic. Overall, I got to say I'm kind of glad they did this direct when they did Because I know some people might might feel like oh, maybe they should have talked about this at e3 But we got to remember arms basically comes out during e3. Right. Yeah, and I think it's out of it They have to keep us engaged all the while they can't go two three months without saying something new about the switch They got to keep something coming Yeah, so it's one of those things that like do you really want them to just talk about arms in splatoon 2? At e3 because that those are two big games. I would eat up half of their presentation and that's No, right We need to know once afterwards they're both out and then then what they didn't say anything about the rest of the year So like this is a very good timing for this direct It lets them basically not have to talk about arms a ton During whatever their digital spotlight thing and Nintendo spotlight They shouldn't have to talk about arms much outside of like maybe a trailer and hey, it comes out this week Um, and then I think I lost Nate on disc or two and they might not even put a trailer for They might even save those trailers for the live tournaments are going to do for those games Um, so they're already giving those games individual attention so much that they might not even be in the spotlight I wanted to talk a little bit about the um other games the new mechanics that they showed us So they kind of like dipped into you know, whatever else the different elements. They might have come in They kind of showed us I think about three or four elements before other other games In previous we haven't heard trailers about the skyrim versions coming but in this one They showed us six elements Was it more might have been a lot of things we don't know about And I thought it was really interesting some of the elements kind of seem like they do the same thing but uh in general I like that it's kind of That's how they add variety to the weapons. It's like, hey, yeah, this is a three missile shooter But now this one has a freezing element and this one has like an exploding element And they give you different boosts there and It's just a fun way to mix up the combat a little bit and make it a little more insane, you know I love what they're doing with arms. It's You know what they didn't cover actually is the supers They only did like a couple of supers in the previous trailers, but now there's 10 characters We probably haven't seen eight supers now. What what do they do? Yeah, no, I saw a few more of them because immediately after they put this, uh, direct up they released a new nintendo minute And those two and those two people was at krista and uh, I always forget the guy's name Oh, man, anyways, those two guys people some bro Went at I totally I think is i'm gonna look it up right after i'm like, oh, yeah, right Um, those two people went at it and had like their own little mini in fighting tournament best two out of three matches or whatever And they played a new they each played a new character every time. So we got to see Six characters in action, I think Um, and and all of them did their supers during the fight Uh, oh awesome So you got to see what what some of that was for and they played some of the new characters So you got to see some of that stuff, um, you know, like the ones they showed off during the director They showed off the one with the the with the robot cop guy and dog. Yeah bark and bite very very interesting character like Like I I don't know. This is a very very weird character very I guess it fits with arms He looks like he would really mess with your strategy Yeah, it's like, oh i'm kicking his butt, but his dog is behind me just pushing away It's uh, it gets an interrupt in there and then suddenly you're on the defensive Yeah, it's It just looks fun And it looks like It's fun in a way that Like swatoon was where you could just have a lot of fun Just playing the game or you could take it super super serious and the game works for whatever you want it to be and in a lot of ways I kind of view these games as Um, kind of the next evolution of what smash bros was like Nintendo had smash bros come out and it was super fun Super casual, but it could be super serious And then they never really did anything With that besides mario kart and let's be honest mario kart for a series that people want to take it It's mostly just silly. Yeah, it's got that heavy rubber banding in there. I mean, there's And people don't like the rubber banding for the serious portion of thing where as in arms There's no rubber banding. There's no tricks here. It's skilled if you want it to be serious um and That that's what's really cool like swatoon caters to The casuals and the hardcore and it looks like arms is going to be doing the same thing And what I like about these kind of games is these almost feel like the smash and mario kart work You have one of these games per generation of hardware Yeah, um, and I know some people like there was someone on our facebook page actually they got mad that Oh, swatoon 2 looks too much like swatoon 1. I'm like because it's splatoon Yeah I'm like i'm like mario kart 8 looks like mario kart 7 looks like mario kart 6. I what yeah Like these are just once a generation games like they don't They don't reinvent the the the wheel visually or gameplay wise like you know what to expect I could see them putting out another arms on the switch Um, just just because it is a new Um franchise and I feel like the switch is going to have a nice long life I could kind of foresee them doing like a new 3ds type thing like hey, it's the same system But it has a better cpu and now yeah, here's some exclusive games and oh look here's arms too kind of thing Yeah, no, I I don't think they're going to do that only because they're continuing support for arms for probably the next year or two Um, so that's going to increase the longevity of that game So I don't know. I mean I could be wrong. It's also coming out right at launch versus splatoon, which came out You know a couple two three years after launch I think a lot of it depends a lot of it depends on on the theoretical. Is there going to be a hardware refresh? Yeah, exactly. Um, because if there isn't a hardware refresh Well by 2020 the switch might not look so hot anymore Um, I'm not just saying that to like be like whatever. I'm just saying like phones and tablets and everything I'm going to easily surpass it by that basically Right and and for the large part and at that and at that point nintendo either needs to decide They're going to continue with the switch and do like, you know, the new the new nintendo switch or whatever Whatever, I better drop that new moniker. Come on. I know I I don't think it's dumb, but whatever they love it in japan apparently Anything that's what I'm saying. So if they call it the new nintendo switch, it'll probably sell anyways Yeah, exactly at least in japan Then you also be like what the heck a new nintendo switch. You mean the one I just bought? No, no, no the new new nintendo switch Exactly Screens just come on nintendo anyways, uh Just to kind of summarize it up. I mean Uh, what are your general feelings about this direct? Was it was a good? Was it bad? Was it you need to see more? I think this did the best job so far of telling us enough about arms To really see that it was more than just a wacky extendable arm fighting game that it looked like it wasn't just the um The wee boxing uh upgrade, you know what it actually kind of feels like to me is an evolution of punch out Where it's a multiplayer take You're not just fighting a computer player and you memorize the pattern But you are facing wacky characters that have weird punches And now you're one of the wacky characters with weird punches And you have to find you know all the weak spots and some folks jump and some folks kick and some I think it's it's finally become something that i'm actually interested in and previously I was Mildly curious at best So I I think that they did a great job of finally showing us enough To make this a game that people are going to want to buy. Yeah, I totally agree I I think this is You know if you can't tell about my excitement for arms and spittoon 2 at this point, uh, they This direct was about as perfect as it can be for the type of game that arms is Yeah And as I said, if you're on the fence and you haven't seen the direct watch the direct You should know by the end of it if this is the game for you Um, anyways, that's gonna do it I'm glad you guys thanks for tuning in to our first ever nintendo prime reacts If you like this video, you know what to do on youtube Give it give it that big thumbs up or if you think we're idiots you can give us big thumbs down Um subscribe, you know follow 5j gaming over there on twitch Also the tenor prime on twitch and Yeah Oh, yeah, you found me on twitter too at any chance. I don't really pop my twitter very much. I should probably do more of that Yeah, it's a hard thing. You know, we both are pretty busy folks So we're doing this as much as we can in the time that we have and the social media aspect I feel is that the part that's the toughest to do to really be consistent on but It is crucial. So we're trying All right. Well, that's gonna do it for this nintendo prime reacts. Thanks everyone for tuning in. Thanks for watching folks. We'll catch you next time