 Live from Massachusetts, here is your host, Stu Miniman. Hi, this is Stu Miniman with SiliconANGLE TVs on the ground coverage of the VTUG Fall Forward 2014 event. Talking to practitioners, of course, this is a user group conference. Joining me for this segment is Das Sinepen, who's the director of IT for Yukon Health Center. Das, thanks so much for taking some time to talk with us. Well, thank you. So on the CUBE segments, we're always trying to help extract the signal from the noise. In virtualization, there's really been dominated by VMware in this conversation. You're here talking about your adoption of Hyper-V and really the Azure private cloud. First of all, tell us a little bit about your role at Yukon and your organization in the IT. Sure. I'm the director for Yukon Health IT. We're a hospital and a medical center in Connecticut in Farmington, so we were a VMware shop. Last year, we decided that the cost was driving, just getting way too much with the VMware, so we decided to go to Hyper-V. All right. So you say cost. One of the biggest knocks on Microsoft over the years has been licensing costs. Talk to us a little bit about, you know, was it just what was the cost difference from your environment, and what has that transition been like? So being in education, we definitely get the education pricing. So that became, we already owned the software. So everything we owned in Windows, we had already paid for. So what better way was not a, there was no brain as we could just move over and use what we had. So we could now cut off the licensing part from VMware and then use something that they already had. All right. So yeah, one of the challenges we always look at inside the VMware environment, it's usually a lot of Microsoft environments. So why not take that wrapper, the hypervisor, and switch that over to Microsoft? That's your environment. So talk to us a little bit about the project. How long did it take you to go and over what was involved in that process? What lessons did you learn that you would share with your peers? So we had an outside consulting company come and help us with the migration. So first job was to see what we had and then what we could move. There was certain applications that we couldn't move because the vendor didn't support them. So we started picking what we could move and the process, the consulting project was three months old, three months, but we are still migrating. We had about over 400 VMware servers. We had down to about 170. So the rest of them are all in HyperV. So it's a long process. We also, we had to get bind from our business team so that they would convert from most people knew who VMware was, very few people knew what HyperV was meant to make those conversion was a tough one. How about training? What did it undergo? How much retraining or is it really just an extension of what people were used to doing in a Microsoft environment? So it was just an extension that the beauty of HyperV was people are already using Windows servers. So there were a few extra clicks here and there that my engineers needed to learn and the company that we were working with had hands-on training with us so that helped out. And is there any piece that you're going to leave on VMware, any kind of stragglers there, or do you expect to be 100% Microsoft on VMware? We will be leaving some stuff on VMware. One is some very old applications that, you know, machines, systems that will not run on HyperV because even the vendor doesn't have support on it and some clinical applications and the vendor is not certified to run on VMware on HyperV so we'll have to leave them on. Yeah, interesting. You would think that since it's Microsoft environment for a lot of them that you would be able to move over. I wonder if you could talk a little bit about how cloud fits in the overall discussion. When you talk to Microsoft about HyperV, does the broader discussion of Azure come up and being in kind of the healthcare part of IT? What is your thought process around cloud? We have started to talk to Azure counterparts for Microsoft saying, hey, what are the things that we can do? So this is something that we are beginning because a lot of this, what a lot of our data is clinical data. Even though Azure is HIPAA compliant, we have all the HIPAA signed but there's still some kind of hesitation for clinical stuff to be moved to Azure. So I think in the next couple of years, the people's viewpoint of Azure will change and this is something that we'll move to in a few years. All right. Well, Doss, we really appreciate you coming all the way up from the Hartford area where fortunately the Patriots are not located here at beautiful Gillette Stadium. Thanks so much for sharing your opinions with the community. This is Stu Miniman covering lots of the users here at the VTUG Fall Forward 2014.